Stellaris COMPLETE Leader Trait Tier List
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Stellaris Leader Traits explained and ranked into a tier list. Lets look at all of the Leader Traits available in Stellaris, work out their benefits and drawbacks, then compare them.
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Chapters:
0:00:00 What Are We Doing?
00:01:19 Councilor Destiny traits
00:11:37 Regular Destiny traits
00:24:07 Councilor Veteran traits
00:43:17 Councilor Basic traits
00:52:28 Regular Veteran traits
01:18:03 Regular Basic traits
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I think it’s suddenly prime time for paradox to completely update all the leader traits right now
Don't even say it!
I swear they use your videos to scout broken builds to nerf down to C tier
LMAO
@@CIKShock if *I* were a dev, I'd certainly use community feedback to figure out what needs balancing and Montu seems to have both a lot of practice with the game and does a lot of good organizing and explaining in these videos.
Yeah, they are getting a little stale recently. I think its due time for a complete rework of the ENTIRE leader trait system.
Releasing this the day before a new major update is just masochism at this point
It will be fine.
Source: *trust me bro*
As Admiral Hackett said from the mass effect 3 :"Holy shit. He did it."
What a great way to spend the time before the machine age livestream
Edit: I did not realize how many leader traits there were, holy
I know, right?
Stellaris devs about to release a new update now that this video is finally out after months of blood, toil, tears, and sweat:
I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
It's the year 2200, and at long last, the Leader Trait Tier List has arrived.
A scout from the machine empire has informed me that the investor trait(10-25% trade value) has a gestalt equivalent that provides 2.5-10% resources from all jobs.
How long has the wait been? A year? Forty? 84 years….
All of the leader traits would've fit on that door, Rose! Absolutely heartless to let them all drown like that.
One of the renowned leaders have the +300 xp to all scientist when completing anomalies. I got the guy early and let him be the only guy doing anomalies, and lemme tell you, I had a LOT of high level scientists
Scouting through this video in 2x speed, I noticed a leader trait you thought was only still in the game files (I think one where workers produce science points), I’m pretty sure I have rolled that trait about 4 times in my last few play throughs.
A note about salvager: The ships you spawn from researching debris with this trait will be of the same ship class as the ship that generated the debris and will be outfitted with your own ship designs(randomly chosen if you have more than one design for that class of ships). It will not spawn a ship if the debris is from a non standard ship class such as marauder, fallen empire or space fauna ships.
On the one hand you can't do any crazy shenanigans but on the other hand these ships will be immediately comparable with your own fleets, or better if you've improved your ship designs since the war started. Also the leader you can hire from the Salvagers enclave starts with this trait at level 3 as well as a unique trait bringing the total chance to spawn a ship to 45% so it's generally not something you need to take on your own leaders unless that enclave didn't spawn in your galaxy.
Didn't know that about the salvagers leader, good info. I like the scavengers civic but it sounds like that guy could free up a whole civic point for -me- our people.
So what I got from this:
Council: 5 Admirals with Genius Armorer, 1 with Home Guard 3/Gale-Speed 2, 1 with Armada Logistician 3/Gale-Speed 2, then 3 with Gale-Speed 3/Navy Instructor 2. If you want a Scientist council then Hyper Focus 3, Inquisitor 2 with Great Researcher.
Fleet admirals
For a cloaking SCOUT fleet go Aggressiveness 2, Trickster 2, Material Liberator 3 then a weapon type trait based on the fleet type (With 5 Genius Armorers this is probably a frigate or a corvette fleet) & Guerilla Tactician Destiny Trait.
For an Artillery Armada go Prudence 2, Artillerist 3, Artillery Focus 2 and Master Gunner or Fortress Cracker Destiny.
For a Juggernaut do the same as Artillery but consider swapping Artillery Focus for Carrier Focus.
For a Leviathan go Engineer 2, Unyielding 2, Jury-Rigger 3, Wrecker 2 and the Resilient Commander Destiny.
For a Fortress World go Enlister 2, Architectural Interest 2, Reinforcer 3, Warden 2 and the Grand Taskmaster Destiny (I like to have my army recruitment on my Fortress worlds).
For an Agri World you actually want a Commander with Agrarian Upbringing 2, Homesteader 2, Architectural Interest 1 (if you have space), Agriculture Focused 3, Efficient Staffing 2 & if you can get it the Ruthless Developer Destiny Trait.
For a General go for Carefulness 2, Heavy Hitter 2, Hardiness 3 & the Supreme Warrior Destiny.
For Scientists consider getting 1 with Archeologist 2 but really just look for Perfectionist 2 then for your Science Worlds get Collaborator 3 and one of the Focus traits (Engineering/Physics) to 2 with the Truth Seeker Destiny trait, or maybe the Planetary Analyst if it's still around.
For Officials its by world type,
Forge World: Architectural Interest 2, Scrapper 2, Forge Focus 3, Distribution Manager 2.
Consumer Goods World: Architectural Interest 2, Entrepenure 2, Factory Focus 3, Distribution Manager 2.
Mining World: Private Mines 2, Architectural Interest 2, Geology Expert 3, Mine Focused 2.
Energy World: Energy Mogul 2, Architectural Interest 2, Efficient Staffing 2, Generator Focused 3.
And give all your officials the Shroud Preacher Destiny Trait.
This is not for machine empires or those who seek to become machines obviously as there are a bunch of traits for them that I am not listing out, this is I suppose for Psionically ascending biological empires, which is most of what I play. I am unsure of the total number of traits you can get, but I think this does a good job of covering the basics, except for scientists I kinda didn't bother with too much. For Officials if there is an extra point before Veteran Traits then go for Celebrity, if after Veteran traits grab Manufacturer. I do wish there was some sort of tree with these traits so you could have your leader take certain actions to increase the chances of certain traits appearing, maybe that's already a thing but I just want more control over which traits I select for, with a galaxy spanning empire you'd think I could hand pick & hand craft the perfect leaders, but I don't know, maybe there's a mod for that (if there is please let me know).
OK - I'm pretty sure this is one of the Signs of the End Times in Revelations. Right between the darkening of the Sun and Reddening of the Moon
I'm sure will be fine.
Source: *trust me bro*
The sun went dark earlier this year... ....
While scouting this video, I was glad to hear the famous Greek scientist Particles got a name-drop in this video!
Are we just gonna ignore the fact he left out the Under one Rule Traits?
I seem to recall him going over them in a different video, can't remember which off the top of my head though
The God-Emperor is displeased.
Can confirm you can still roll Observer, had one scientist who for three levels in a row tried to take it
I never thought I’d live to see the montu leader trait tier list released…
Neither did I... neither did I
The Scout trait is also an explorer veteran trait making it a lot more valuable. You also missed the confidential research trait, which is an explorer only trait after you research cloaking that gives you up to +3 cloaking strength. If there is any ship class that is valuable cloaked, it is the science ship. Getting into closed border space to research anomalies, or to do active recon.
With Confidential Research I was able to get a science ship that could just camp in orbit above a fallen empire capital. XD
"There's going to be a lot of icon on screen"
Hmmm **goes to see the video preview near the last minutes** yup, there's a clusterfuck load of icons.
Seeya after the listening/visualisation
I was scouting for this video, glad you made it
Decided it was time to scout out what others thought of different traits. Thanks for your breakdown of everything, I usually avoid these kind of lists but this was really informative.
Beautiful sir. I’ve been waiting for this since Paragons. Your repeated hard work is appreciated.
Great work, and well scouted. Had to watch it 3 times as I inevitably fell asleep in the B tier veteran traits and C tier normal traits respectively. Great work to you and your editor!
Yes! I have been waiting for this video with great anticipation!
Wow, this is a tremendous work, to rank all of this leader traits. Well done 👏
Glad I scouted this out. Learned things! Thank you.
Scouting on this video for so looong
Thanks Montu, it's great work (and pleasure for us, common players to watch)
I love the format of categorizing the traits and ranking them separately!
Your inflection and tone never drop off. Very impressive.
Scout.
Nice you really scouted these out. (Nice video)
I just realized I never subed to your channel after all this time. Just did and liked the video, definitely one of the best stellaris channels online.
Praise be to you, Great Montu.
Thanks montu! Now I can scout out the most optimal traits for my empires!
Scout, I noticed in the game that the Statistician bonus to research speed is only applied once even if you have multiple Statisticians on the council. Other traits that give research speed will be applied multiple times if you have multiple leaders with the traits on the council. Can you confirm that there's only a benefit from having one Statistician on the council?
I have seen multiple Statistician benefits stack in my play throughs.
I listened to this in work so i don't remember much, but it is done and i salute you 🙂👍
Super vid, absolutely scouting
Can confirm Observer is still around, have it on several scientists this game.
Thanks for the videos btw man, there's been so much new stuff since I last played Stellaris (if you can remember, I played last when you had to choose your FTL type at the beginning of the game!) and these have been a great help to catch up on mechanics and sanity checks on my (poor) strategies. Just used the basics of your "Tallest build ever", made some poor choices, still annihilated everything. Don't know what to do with the resources. Guess it's time for a new game ;)
Dude this was incredible
Montu is actually a champ, making a video like this takes a lot of effort
I'm very excited for this video
Well we've been scouting out for this video for a while now
Admirations for this, it is as comprehensive as it gets and a lot of work to compile. Let's see how long it will take for the devs to introduce new changes to the leader traits :P :P But srsly, great work here.
Hey Montu, awesome vid as always! In alot of videos whenever you talk about leaders and what not, bein able to extend their life spans you say perks for that arent very good as there are "other ways" to extend leader life span and even make them live longer and even immortal, but having watched you for a good while now and having played the game for ~200 hours now myself, I simply have no clue what those other methods are. Maybe at some point you could make a tutorial or guide on the best ways to get leaders to stick around for as long as possible? Have a great day!
Amazing job here, Montu. This has taken the patience of a Boy Scout
Just in time to listen to at work, let's goo
What a huge work, nice one Montu !
Could Under One Rule origin traits would have been there as well?
Great video
I totally agree with the low ranked researcher destiny traits, there are only very few situations when the +15 anomaly chance or the 300 xp from anomalies is worth it. For example if you get the "Time Crystal" relic from one of your first rifts.
I'm gonna have to scout for these traits in the future. I didn't realize just how powerful some of them are.
I watched the first 5 minutes then the last 5 minutes then thought "I've just wasted 5 minutes (x2 speed) as I don't have the Paragons DLC and I get whatever and don't even look at my leader traits"
Get it. It is worth it. All the DLC are worth it in my opinion.
If you don’t want to buy the DLC multiplayer uses all the hosts DLC so you can join a game and use the DLC for free.
@@iluvpandas2755 Yeh but here's the thing, I just don't care about leaders. I DO want it for 1 very small thing. Adaptability tradition gives an agenda that gives terraforming techs, this would be AMAZING for my favorite empire because it has Idyllic Bloom and would let me use Gaia seeders much faster.
It would be super useful if you'd drop the lists also in text form in the description or at least put a link in there to a GDoc or similar where it's listed. Especially for huge lists like this it's super hard to find things and to know what's what by just looking at it :)
Just in time!
Congratulations on finally releasing your magnum opus!
Manage to scout this video before new DLC drops this evening. Makes waiting more bearable :)
Thank you! ❤
I do love scouting out what traits i should get for my leaders
Hey Scout, how you doing there bub? Thanks for the video!
You are such a good boy scout Montu, this must have taken forever.
chainbreaker's second effect sounds really useful
or at the very least really cool and thematic
At long last! Can't wait for this to hit console in ten years. Thanks for the report, our reliable scout
Gorilla Tactician + Scout3 seems like it would be fun for a fleet focused on stalling or raiding a different attack vector.
Ahhh yes, perfect time for this to come out right before the new expansion which may change some of these and also change how some are used by certain empires.
Scouting out the potential balance changes in the f-teir and s-teir traits.
I don't want to be that guy, but scouting through this video, I noticed that you forgot few destiny traits, such as Fanatic warlord or Plundering warlord, but considering the size of this tier list, I don't blame you. Great video overall
15:00 I want to say something about Academic Recruiters here: In the context of Virtual Ascension it's actually quite nice - ultimately, you want to do Research Ringworlds in the late game here, while also playing with only few planets. And with 150 Researchers on such a Ring Segment, you can get a lot of Naval Capacity before bonuses, without having to invest into soldiers.
This is especially interesting, as you can get Level 8 Commanders out of the Leader Pool, if you combined Warbots, Distinguished Admiralty, War Games (Supremacy Traditions) and Capacity Boosters. So you don't spend an eterenity leveling those guys up. It's the best way I found so far to scale a Virtual empire into the super late game in order to fight a high crisis multiplier.
I love being able to scout out the good traits by just watching this video
as a Machine intelligence player i dont really get to see these, so this was fun to learn
I’m trying to purchase porter robinson concert tickets but there’s so many scalpers! Anyway, hopefully montu can get to a renowned and legendary paragons tier list in the future.
I wonder if he’s avoiding it because it maybe a stupid request
Here I am, scouting for good leader traits, thanks for the video.
The Madlad actually did it. Cant wait to see it updated every Patch
Scout (!) in my eyes is more for defending, not for attacking. To get your defensive fleet in position quicker.
On attack I would only use it on the fleet I want to engage first (like a corvette or destroyer fleet) to lock an enemy fleet into position before my long range heavy hitters arrive to pick them off.
With Machine Age I'm getting monthly minor artifacts from stations now, I guess now I have to start looking at the archeo-stuff
Finally! The time has come
Is there any up to date guides on recommended fleet compositions?
The Psionics Expertise can be useful if you're a Materialist trying to roll Psionic Theory for the Empire Size from Pops reduction rather than because you want to Psionically ascend. The issue is, by far the better way to do that is to just have a Shroudwalker teacher on the council, which doesn't require you to randomly roll one of many possible expertise traits and can be done as soon as you scout out the location of the enclave.
Devs could spruce it up by adjusting the weighting of the shroud events so that the bonus to psionic tech draw also applied to the Shroud rolls; i.e. having a councillor with that trait made it that much more likely to get the shroud event that gives you the research option, letting you unlock the psionic ship components faster and more reliably. I think the rad looking purple trait icon just makes me want it to be cool.
Good video thus far but one question.
What about the Luminary's traits?
I´ll be scouting through this video like there´s no tomorrow.
When Pargons came out, sublight speed bonuses applied twice to juggernauts. I have a screenshot of my Juggernaut having over 700 sublight speed. That is faster than strikecraft.
The army build speed and cost reduction came with that Alturion guy and it actually ended up pretty useful against the MSI during a payback war I waged. I was fanatic xenophobe and only had like one other friendly empire with muscle with me and had to take on pretty much the whole galaxy in the midgame due to MSI going nuts on vassals and defense pacts. I burned through so many armies and there were a lot of worlds with 1k+ defense armies. Midway through the war I got gene warrior tech and respecced my lithoid livestock into very strong. That helped quite a bit. Quake in fear of my mineral cow armies!
I think this tear list is haevy fighting sensitive, but good to know what we can get in later lvl's
secret callout scouted out, if only my memory was good enough to actually use these tier lists
Few notes besides mixing hyper-focus/inquisitor and forgetting to note gestalt alternative for trade council perk:
We agree on federation traits being all bad,but Joint Exercise is a bit undersold considering its the only way to increase federation fleet cap outside of the law and making fed fleet at least somewhat useful (which is like putting a bandaid over a broken rib,but still the best out of 4)
Prospector is a perk that is an active detriment,because by the time you get your leader to l4-7 you already surveyed everything in your area and would instead buff deposits that are more likely to be captured by your enemy,while at the very least something like Tuner might allow you to capture it faster (the only real way to make full use of it is intentionally not surveying back pockets inside your cluster or save it for L/Ithome clusters)
Feedback Loop is not that useful (in comparison to Principled) because gestalts dont really struggle with amenities and stability bonus from high amenities is capped at 20
At 3:36 slight mis saying, he says 33% research speed for voidcraft technology. But on screen shows 15%
Is the leader trait list on the wiki outdated? I couldn't find the trait that gives commercial pact efficiency anywhere on there.
There is one option to get a really high leader at start if you are lucky. The "Spacecraft Remains" anomaly which is a lvl 4 global unique anomaly gives you a lvl 6 scientist ;)
The scientist's traits tend to be all over the shop though, since their veteran traits and their veteran class often don't match.
I spy that you missed the scientist cloaking strength trait. It only becomes available once cloaking tech has been researched. Confidential Research is the name going by a short scouting detour on the wiki. It negates -50% of shield nullification at the highest level and provides +2 to cloaking strength.
Academic recruiter is situational s-tier i think, in my last virtual tall playthrough i got 1k naval cap from this 1 trait alone ^^
And here we are: Montu explaining all those traits and how to get them like they are scout badges.
26:22 If you have the cybrex precursor, you can build cybrex armies much faster and cheaper? ^^
27:15 I am absolutely crippled by outpost influence, it's the main reason I like Expansion as a tradition - even then I usually still have giant holes in my territory because influence is too useful. Unless I'm combining Stargazers + Slingshot, influence cost reduction for expanding is huge. Cheaper outposts means more systems, which means more key chokepoints!
Started watching the video, see "Shadow Broker" at the F Tier.
Instantly start to wonder, could you get 4 of these positions on a Crime Syndicate and would that actually make them better?
600% infiltration speed, -100% operation cost?
Probably isn't additive, but it made me glow with wonder
Driven Educator can be obtained early as an egalitarian from the renowned scientist paragon, Zosira. She's an amazing paragon for being a statistician, with leader buffs early game and also doubling as a slightly-weaker analyst. Her downside trait of Gullible is also a total non-issue.
Thanks
Now i know what Leaders to scout
Peacekeeper is great if you are an Oppressive Autocracy, since you are getting massive crime from pops with that civic so dropping crime by 20 means you need less enforcers.
13:47 I’d like to make a case in defense of grand taskmaster. In its current form it provides the base output of 1/2 miner, 1/3 a technician, and 1/3 a farmer. Now, in the late game it does worse than these jobs due to technicians, miners, and farmers getting buffs specifically to them for their specific resource (and base output increases), but by the late game you also need to hire lots of soldiers anyways to field a massive navy. Grand taskmaster lets those soldiers double dip in also contributing to your economy with some basics from a fortress freeing just a few pops from needing to work basic jobs while also expanding your navy. It’s not overpowered, don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think it’s F-tier.
You did it! You crazy son of a xeno, you actually did it!
I’m pretty sure he missed the destiny trait that the warform has from the corroding warship anomaly which can be powerful if you get it early
Xeno-mediator pop stability goes up computer stability goes down
I’m back from scouting and man, I’m just now realizing that my broken builds don’t even use Montus S or A tier stuff (except these leader traits). I’m severely asking myself how I even get by on GA difficulty with B tier and lower selections. I use maybe a few A and S tier but not much
i always try to scout out a distribution manager for my ascended alloy worlds... something about having a massive reduction of minerals for alloys tickles me