Stellaris 3.12 Ascension Perks Tier List

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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    Stellaris Ascension Perks explained and ranked into a tier list. Lets look at all of the Ascension Perks available in Stellaris, work out their benefits and drawbacks, then compare them.
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    0:00 What Are Ascension Perks?
    1:16 F Tier
    8:23 C Tier
    13:12 B Tier
    20:26 A Tier
    26:11 S Tier
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  • @MontuPlays
    @MontuPlays  Месяц назад +30

    Wishlist Sins of a Solar Empire 2 on Steam NOW & support this channel: steam.gs/l/157jf/MontuPlays

    • @schroecat1
      @schroecat1 Месяц назад

      Stardock sponsoring a Stellaris video seems like a mischievous decision. Not sure that these games are compatible. XD

    • @EmpReb
      @EmpReb Месяц назад +1

      @@schroecat1 I'm a Sins fan that has Crack addiction when I play Stellaris You can love both.

    • @joshua211111
      @joshua211111 Месяц назад

      Excited for Sins of the Prophets 2 mod for this

    • @cnm7558
      @cnm7558 Месяц назад

      compatible

    • @GilAzuara
      @GilAzuara Месяц назад

      dude, i have a new build you should try, I called them the prime matrix
      specie: mechanical
      traits: adaptive frames, art generators and efficient processors
      origin: arc wielders
      ethos and civs: machine intelligence, guardian matrix and unitary cohesion
      ruler trait: spark of genius
      playstyle: unity rush until year 30 or until you get the virtual trad tree
      fill main planet with uplink nodes within first 10 years
      unity rush from start
      first trad tree: prosperity
      first AP: imperial prerogative
      second trad tree: synchronisity
      second AP: tech ascendancy
      third trad tree: aptitude
      third AP: synchronisity
      fourth trad tree: virtual
      fourth AP: cosmogenesis
      colonize 2 habitable planets after year 2210
      fill one with uplink nodes
      fill second one with energy and industrial disctricts along with blue districts to build research labs
      once you have the virtual trad tree, change the virtual focus policy to focus on unity generation
      unlock the rest of trad trees
      fifth trad tree: expansion
      fifth AP: mechromancy or archaeotech depending on your relics income
      sixth trad tree: discovery
      sisth AP: master builders or galactic wonders if you have the prerequisites for it
      seventh trad tree: unyielding
      seventh AP: eternal vigilance
      as u can see, this build combines the magnolia build with a 0% empire size from pops if you pick OTA updates as your third civic, combining it with the benefits of arc wielders origin gives a massive boost to your economy, turning mining districts irrelevant

  • @Konzon
    @Konzon Месяц назад +414

    The real endgame crisis is the empire that took xenocompatability. If they don't get defeated fast enough, the galaxy gets destroyed by lag.

    • @aecides3203
      @aecides3203 Месяц назад +20

      Once I would have agreed with you, but all I'm hearing now is "More Synaptic cogitators for the Lathe"

    • @wewuzkangz2505
      @wewuzkangz2505 Месяц назад

      100%. There's always this one fucking guy, who just sits there in the corner and has immigration open with literally everyone.

    • @florians9949
      @florians9949 Месяц назад +13

      Sentry array: finally a worthy oponent, our lag battle shall be legendary!

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus 18 дней назад

      @@aecides3203 The ultimate way of processing undesirables.

    • @vicenteabalosdominguez5257
      @vicenteabalosdominguez5257 14 дней назад

      The true way to crash the simulation.

  • @Banter07
    @Banter07 Месяц назад +614

    I can’t believe he forgot to mention xeno compatibility

    • @agntsmth94
      @agntsmth94 Месяц назад +183

      If I can't win, no one can
      *Freezes the game*

    • @infantrytactics1233
      @infantrytactics1233 Месяц назад +21

      He did.
      17:28

    • @Banter07
      @Banter07 Месяц назад +44

      @@infantrytactics1233 I know. I am well aware.

    • @duyas1628
      @duyas1628 Месяц назад +33

      We do not speak of the evil one.

    • @desertfawx2093
      @desertfawx2093 Месяц назад +18

      @@infantrytactics1233you didn’t watch the whole video or you would get why he said that

  • @cjwarrington177
    @cjwarrington177 Месяц назад +101

    I wish there were more ascension perks that were situationally the absolute nuts. Like, eff it, make Archaeo-engineers -90% artifacts cost and +50% archaeotech weapons damage. Have it grant access to a special ship class or hull configuration. Make me want to pick that perk whenever I randomly find myself sitting on a bunch of minor artifact deposits. It would still be garbage 9/10 games, but that one game where it absolutely pops off would be so much more memorable.

    • @schwingedeshaehers
      @schwingedeshaehers Месяц назад +9

      but than it has to be incompatible with nanite ships and crisis ships

  • @classreductionist
    @classreductionist Месяц назад +295

    Fun fact: You can hire a Large Marauder fleet for 10k energy credits and then convert them into a Mercenary fleet in your empire saving yourself 50 Fleet Cap worth of alloys.

    • @archmagemc3561
      @archmagemc3561 Месяц назад +29

      .... thats a very fast way of getting an entire merc enclave empire up. I'll use that for my 10 year rush merc enclave games. 5 merc enclaves up by 2215 is very strong. xD

    • @user-he4pk4tg2i
      @user-he4pk4tg2i Месяц назад +13

      ​@@archmagemc3561 You can't hire marauder mercs till midgame though

    • @archmagemc3561
      @archmagemc3561 Месяц назад

      @@user-he4pk4tg2i Oh, so it takes until 2225, fair enough.

    • @classreductionist
      @classreductionist Месяц назад +13

      @@user-he4pk4tg2i true. It's still really nice when the GC passes Security Contractors and you can then immediately found a Merc Enclave for essentially zero alloys.

    • @cstains5543
      @cstains5543 Месяц назад +6

      Or you can find the Tinker enclave and do the same for around 8K to 12K depending on what's available and get it done before midgame. Either works though.

  • @aptspire
    @aptspire Месяц назад +112

    The only way to pull a large archeofleet is by putting a Dyson Swarm around the "Message in a Bottle" star. It gives 60+ minor artifacts monthly.

    • @spookyaction3236
      @spookyaction3236 Месяц назад +11

      Wow nice tip. I didn't realize the artifacts were on the star in that system.

    • @robguy8501
      @robguy8501 Месяц назад +10

      That is an awesome thing I didn't know you could do. The other way you can field a lot of archeotech ships is by becoming the galactic nemesis as their menacing ship types only cost minerals regardless of what you outfit them with. Although the slots available on them keep you from installing large amounts of the more powerful weapons you can still fill up with all many of cool toys that would normally be too expensive to be practical.

    • @louiswinterhoff334
      @louiswinterhoff334 Месяц назад +2

      Are you serious???

    • @Ramschat
      @Ramschat Месяц назад +13

      Cool, but that's NOT the only way.
      Crisis ships and Nanotech ships will never cost minor artefacts no matter how many archeotech modules you put on them

  • @NuggetWorkshop
    @NuggetWorkshop Месяц назад +28

    F TIER
    1:35 Archaeo-Engineers
    3:36 Executive Vigor
    4:31 Detox
    5:21 Interstellar Dominion
    5:51 Shared Destiny
    7:01 Transcendent Learning
    7:40 Enigmatic Engineering
    C TIER
    8:32 Consecrated Worlds
    9:57 Hydrocentric
    11:06 Mastery of Nature
    11:55 Universal Transactions
    12:42 Grasp the Void
    B TIER
    13:22 Eternal Vigilance
    14:05 Lord of War
    15:13 Mechromancy
    16:03 Voidborne
    17:05 [REDACTED]
    18:57 World Shaper
    19:44 Galactic Contender
    A TIER
    20:45 Galactic Wonders
    22:09 Imperial Prerogative
    23:13 Nihilistic Acquisition
    23:50 Technological Ascendancy
    24:14 Galactic Force Projection
    25:18 Engineered Evolution
    S TIER
    26:47 One Vision
    28:05 Arcology Project
    29:11 Hive Worlds
    29:35 Machine Worlds
    30:09 Master Builders
    30:55 Colossus Project
    32:30 Defender of the Galaxy
    33:40 Cosmogenesis
    ^ Galactic Nemesis
    35:15 The Flesh is Weak
    ^ Organo-Machine Interfacing
    ^ Mind over Matter
    36:03 Synthetic Evolution

  • @blahmaster6k
    @blahmaster6k Месяц назад +138

    Remember that Crisis ships and nanite ships don't need minor artifacts, so archaotech weapons are completely free for those builds. That is the real context I would give for a scenario where archao engineers is good.

    • @ryorai5804
      @ryorai5804 Месяц назад +6

      Big brain moment

    • @MasterElements
      @MasterElements Месяц назад +12

      Also if you get the rubricator then funding the minor artifacts is actually rather easy plus the extra extra damage you get from the passive.

    • @marknezanuto
      @marknezanuto Месяц назад +10

      ​@@MasterElementsrubricator is not enough to found respectable fleet size with arceotech unless you are menace.

    • @gmradio2436
      @gmradio2436 Месяц назад

      Are we going to eventually get the rest of the tempest ship?

    • @AMPS1
      @AMPS1 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Sepaedius I don't think that's possible, the nano missiles are only for s slots while the nanite swarmers only m slots have. But the swarmers with hangars are op too.

  • @WillCarter1976
    @WillCarter1976 Месяц назад +40

    The only xeno compatibility in my playthroughs, is how compatible the the xeno flesh is with our flamethrowers!

  • @Cybermarth
    @Cybermarth Месяц назад +27

    The Archeo-Engineers are in my opinion only worth the trouble when you get the event/digsite on the sun that gives you 1-3 Artifacts. Then make a Dyson Swarm around it and it is at least a thought as a ascension perk.
    Edit: I forgot one detail: The idea is that the dyson swarm array enhance extremly the production of your star. NOW when you have minor artifacts on the sun they also get enhanced and yes I had twice already fun with +93 Artifacts from that one star.

  • @DarthChratis
    @DarthChratis Месяц назад +26

    Anyone remember back when mastery of nature was a broken auto pick?
    It gave you all of the blocker techs instantly and for free, letting you skip an entire tech lvl and removing a buch of dud techs from the pool.

  • @Argenomius
    @Argenomius Месяц назад +37

    I need to point out that Mastery of Nature does reduce the cost of blockers on Shattered Ring, but can't increase the number of districts once you repair the Ring completely

    • @jonrwert
      @jonrwert Месяц назад +8

      Mastery of Nature might be a little more appealing with the Relic World origin, too. Well, slightly.

  • @TC-cq7oc
    @TC-cq7oc Месяц назад +79

    I think there was a patch where cosmogenesis is now completely in-compatible with galactic custodian. In my most recent playthrough, I was barred from proposing a resolution to make myself Custodian - though perhaps I could have become custodian still if another empire proposed it.

    • @TheFinalEvent97
      @TheFinalEvent97 Месяц назад +13

      Yep, having already taken Cosmogenesis in my playthrough I couldn't propose for my empire to become the Custodian due to the level of scrutiny would reveal what the empire was up to. Stellaris wiki also says Emperor/Custodian is banned from taking Cosmogenesis so it can't be done the other way round either.

    • @cecilofs
      @cecilofs Месяц назад +7

      @@TheFinalEvent97 Don't worry all those pops I took are perfectly fine. They are currently having a great time on a planet I have called "The Lathe". No you can't visit them, they are very busy.

    • @AbsoluteZero101
      @AbsoluteZero101 Месяц назад +2

      What about if you propose the resolution to become GC first and then immediately pick up cosmogenesis. It would still be in the queue no?

    • @derpidius6306
      @derpidius6306 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@AbsoluteZero101Maybe, but why wait? Personally I've been trying to egg on the AI to be custodian so I could try to get the achievement for overthrowing the galactic emperor

    • @Jallorn
      @Jallorn Месяц назад +2

      @@AbsoluteZero101 No, I've tried, it invalidates the proposal and cancels the voting period.

  • @MrDeflador
    @MrDeflador Месяц назад +77

    Important thing for Consecrated worlds. If you are next to the spiritual Fallen Empire, I think this perk goes up to b, maybe even a because you cannot have a colony on these worlds anyway and they give a ton of Unity.

    • @jamesparson1233
      @jamesparson1233 Месяц назад +18

      you also get an opinion boost with the fallen empire so they might start giving gifts

    • @archmagemc3561
      @archmagemc3561 Месяц назад +13

      @@jamesparson1233 Xenophile and guardian of the galaxy, I think you can get BLUE with the spiritaulist empire doing this. At that point they give gifts like crazy and may even let you inhabit those gaia worlds.

    • @kennyholmes5196
      @kennyholmes5196 Месяц назад +11

      Or, you know, get lucky and obtain the head of Zarqlan.

    • @Jallorn
      @Jallorn Месяц назад +2

      Also, as KotTG it's a straight upgrade to One Vision, since you can consecrate holy worlds out of toxic planets

  • @timothypeterson4781
    @timothypeterson4781 Месяц назад +54

    I'd suggest one caveat on Grasp The Void. As a gestalt consciousness it's a good grab early because you can use it to subsidize your energy with solar then later into a nice little navy boost so I'd say for gestalt it's up to B for it's flexibility. But for normal empires certainly. I'd like to say it's very... Compatible with gestalt empires.

    • @MasterElements
      @MasterElements Месяц назад +2

      It is also very compatible with Astro Mining Drones gestalt civic, as that civic gives +50% more starbase cap. I have an Arc furnace origin build with astro mining drones and it's amazing.

    • @timothypeterson4781
      @timothypeterson4781 Месяц назад

      @@MasterElements Ahh, yes didn't think of that here. I thought of that when I was playing around with Astro Mining (on a ring world just to see how much it screwed you over (answer, a lot.))

    • @cecilofs
      @cecilofs Месяц назад

      @@MasterElements Is it feasible to get enough energy for Nanite Harvesters without using Tech Drones?

    • @MasterElements
      @MasterElements Месяц назад

      @@cecilofs In the beginning? No you will need to invest in Capacity Subsidies and some tech drone jobs, but once you get some dyson swarms online on some good stars then you should be fine. Though that is a bit RNG, I would also suggest becoming a prospectorium as the random resource deposits will boost your economy immensely.

  • @nathanwells4809
    @nathanwells4809 Месяц назад +9

    Detox should be a tech

  • @themeerkat5157
    @themeerkat5157 Месяц назад +98

    virtual is so broken, literally allows you to instantly get the most powerful resource in the whole game: pops

    • @BARBARBINKLE
      @BARBARBINKLE Месяц назад +11

      It’s easily the most op thing this game has ever seen. I like the concept of it but it needs a LOT more downsides to balance it out. You honestly shouldn’t be able to rush it so quick imo.

    • @Evert1992
      @Evert1992 Месяц назад +7

      I just did a playthrough with virtuality.
      I didn't even do the midgame, i was already bored and ready for the Endgame.
      But not on hardest difficulty, so im gonna do that later.
      But it really is very op.
      2 ecumenopolis and a cybrex ringworld.
      So so so op 😂

    • @BARBARBINKLE
      @BARBARBINKLE Месяц назад +1

      @@Evert1992 I don’t even play with it even tho I like the concept of a matrix themed empire just cause it’s so strong that it makes the game boring imo

    • @Evert1992
      @Evert1992 Месяц назад

      ​@@BARBARBINKLEi totally get that.
      Like i said i wasn't even in the midgame and was already getting close to repeatable techs 😂
      Maybe with gigastructual engineering and on extreme difficulty can it be made challenging, but even that i doubt.

    • @tribsta1018
      @tribsta1018 Месяц назад +5

      I love the concept. I just hope they don’t ruin the idea when they nerf it into the ground. I never play the meta and always play RP builds. I like playing tall and wanted my imported leaders so why I like it. As long as they keep the idea after the nerfs I will still play it

  • @wdavid4
    @wdavid4 Месяц назад

    I like how all of these tier rankings fit together so well, like a fully compatible list of best choices to make. Thanks for all this effort!

  • @osloares630
    @osloares630 Месяц назад +5

    Finally, been waiting for this list for a week

  • @henrywill124
    @henrywill124 Месяц назад +10

    I really feel like Eternal Vigilance needs to grant an upgrade to the Citadel, like a Star Citadel or something since most of the bonuses can be acquired with repeatable techs. That can make it compatible with something in the A tier.

    • @jojossniper
      @jojossniper Месяц назад +4

      An upgrade to the citadel would be really cool for a defensive empire,I imagine a tech like that to be gated behind eternal vigilance,also it would be cool if eternal vigilance would be gated behind the unyielding tradition and the galactic projection behind supremacy.

    • @jacobp.2024
      @jacobp.2024 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@jojossniper Three things need to happen for citadel defenses to be viable.
      1. Citadel designs - citadel's *need* to be able to be edited, and maybe receive different kinds of hulls with different weapon options. Half the issue with them is that they just.. Take whatever weapons it feels like, and they're usually not good ones.
      2. Debuffs on enemy fleets - citadels should have more options to make combat unfavorable in the systems they're located in, or at least narrow what tactics will be effective. Debuffs to the enemy would scale well and provide some utility to forcing engagement of the enemy in a starbase system, aside from a negligible amount of added DPS. The modifiers should be telegraphed, but be decisive if not worked around.
      3. late-game scaling - they just.. Are never quite as useful as they are early game ever again. That early game 3k starbase can be a game changer, but after that? Nope. It's more of a liability than anything, since a powerful starbase ends up being a liability against more powerful foes, as they WILL be captured and they will bottleneck an inferior fleet.
      4. less punishing to be captured - all that needs to be said. Putting weapon installations or using starbases defensively is just.. An awful idea currently. They do as much to defend you as they will to help entrench your enemy as they push into your territory. They should not be as much of an asset to the enemy as they are to you, but that's how it is. I don't know how they'd change this, but it should probably be changed if starbases aren't meant to be like this.

  • @Demonling
    @Demonling Месяц назад +1

    And today I was wondering when we would get a Montu video soon. Praise be Montu! Pretty compatible with a good mood ;)

  • @ryorai5804
    @ryorai5804 Месяц назад +11

    Important info you missed (unless I didnt hear it) consecrated worlds can make toxic worlds holy worlds if youre using knights of the toxic gods.

    • @kalebbradford143
      @kalebbradford143 Месяц назад +2

      sheesh that origin has so much for being so benign in extra power

    • @sirgaz8699
      @sirgaz8699 Месяц назад

      So it can be a toxic world that doesn't have terraforming candidate? That's actually pretty good.

    • @ryorai5804
      @ryorai5804 Месяц назад

      @@sirgaz8699 correct, any toxic world

  • @Lolztrel
    @Lolztrel Месяц назад +1

    Your videos are highly compatible with my interets :-) Thank you for all your amazing content!

  • @charlieblocher7456
    @charlieblocher7456 Месяц назад +11

    Mastery of Nature is really good for Standard Empires, since adding resource districts for food/energy/minerals is very useful when you are subject to RNG for basic resources availability.

    • @JaJDoo
      @JaJDoo Месяц назад +3

      one of my favorite first pick options

    • @DreadDoom
      @DreadDoom Месяц назад +1

      Nah it's a waste, a single tributary will give you many more basic resources than two extra districts on all of your planets will, especially since you need 4-6 pops to work those jobs as well on each planet, AND pay the influence + energy cost. Spending that eco on getting a fleet and taking a tributary, and then spending that perk on something more worth-while is a much more efficient strategy.

    • @charlieblocher7456
      @charlieblocher7456 Месяц назад +1

      @@DreadDoom If you pick the right planets, you'll get many more than two districts.
      And a tributary is a boost, if you're in a militant play through, but unless you just don't need to produce your own resources, it would still be a potential pick.

    • @DreadDoom
      @DreadDoom Месяц назад

      @@charlieblocher7456 It increases planet size by 2, i.e. 2 districts. How could it be more? If you are referring to the +50% that just increases the per-district-type limit, it will not increase the maximum number of districts on a planet, e.g. if a planet is size 10 and has a cap of 18 energy districts (one of my planets had this) you can still only build 10 energy districts, since planet size is 10.
      So at best it could be 2 districts + 1 building slot if you have something like Agrarian Idyll or Master Crafters and it just happens to put you over the 3 districts needed, but you still need to fill all those jobs with pops.
      It is always just straight-up worse than a tributary unless you are an empire that cannot have vassals.

    • @charlieblocher7456
      @charlieblocher7456 Месяц назад +1

      @@DreadDoom I'm talking about the planetary features. You almost never get a planet that is, say, Size 10 with 14 energy districts. It's not impossible, but the RNG is super low, especially without events (like from Terraforming) to add extra districts.
      What you usually get are planets size 10 to 20 with 4 to 8 energy, food, and/or mineral districts. It makes it harder and more costly to develop and specialize those worlds, which you can only really optimize for two types and fully enhance for one.
      Plus, once you do invest in a resource world, you want as many pops working for that resource as possible.
      If you have a planet with 8 mineral or energy districts, that going to be 20 jobs with normal buildings. Mastery of nature with give you four more districts, and now you have 12 districts, so 28 jobs. That's 8 more jobs that will fully benefit from that planet's buildings, governor, orbital ring, and/or ascension bonuses, and without having to increase your empire size by colonizing another world.
      You may be in a situation where you just don't have worlds with many districts of one type or another, and getting a 50% boost is incredibly helpful. Dyson Swarms and Arc Welders help, but at a certain point you just need pops working jobs, unless you can steam roll and dominate a collection of vassals early on.

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough Месяц назад

    This video was very compatible with my need to know more about the perks in this game thank you! Which I love to plot my games around this!

  • @kervensdor5590
    @kervensdor5590 Месяц назад +10

    I can't believe Transcendent Learning is not compatible with Montu Plays’s playlist

  • @ocelotkillalot4632
    @ocelotkillalot4632 Месяц назад

    Ty for this guides man insane I learn a lot

  • @hellos2youse
    @hellos2youse Месяц назад +2

    New Monty video = new playthrough from what I learn ❤

  • @calmgood-hh9zp
    @calmgood-hh9zp 28 дней назад

    Thank you very much for the video.I really enjoyed it.😊

  • @Afarensus
    @Afarensus Месяц назад

    These videos of yours are super compatible with my taste!

  • @caffize3919
    @caffize3919 Месяц назад +4

    If you go for Whisperer of the Void + Subterfuge + Enigmatic Engineering, you can get stealth level 6 or 7 battleships and titans, which can be really powerful.

  • @Maxpell.classic
    @Maxpell.classic Месяц назад

    Thank for great work 😀!

  • @sullivanzany8091
    @sullivanzany8091 Месяц назад

    Thank you for this video I always appreciate your thoughts and discussion.

  • @Potatojiggle
    @Potatojiggle Месяц назад

    Thanks for your up to date video again. I made it to the secret callout.

  • @DustyChapter
    @DustyChapter Месяц назад +2

    Will say, there is *one* situation i love Interstellar Dominion for. If you have alot of territory to gobble up earlygame when playing "Under One Rule", it can be a great way of getting a bunch more starbases built for the sake of the Luminary Buff.

  • @TheBronzeDog
    @TheBronzeDog Месяц назад

    Looks like I'm shifting some of my first picks to be more compatible with the updates. Thanks for putting this up.

  • @NightHunter571
    @NightHunter571 Месяц назад

    Montu’s videos are always compatible with a relaxing evening

  • @dahakaxx95
    @dahakaxx95 Месяц назад

    I watch every single one of these tier lists you make, it helps me a lot! Tho I never used Xeno compatibility.

  • @Zalnos7
    @Zalnos7 Месяц назад

    Thanks, Montu. The video is perfectly compatible with listening while I scrub the stove.

  • @melbifk
    @melbifk Месяц назад

    Crazy! List after list.

  • @paulcatindig2260
    @paulcatindig2260 Месяц назад +3

    Mr Montu, I sure do hope that the renowned and legendary paragons tier list is compatible with your schedule soon!

  • @blackshiinobi1777
    @blackshiinobi1777 Месяц назад

    Your videos are the reason I play Stellaris, thank you very much. We need a video about Starbases and Defense platform designs.

  • @francispepito6972
    @francispepito6972 12 дней назад

    Thanks for these amazing videos about xeno compatibility.

  • @Jernsaxe
    @Jernsaxe Месяц назад +3

    Mecromancy have another important benefit if you are playing Rogue Servitor. Normally you are unable to purge biological pops and they get forced into being bio trophies. If you get too many bio pops early it can tank your economy, especially since bio trophies have been nerfed quite a bit.
    So taking Mecromancy as Rogue Servitor can be a powerful way to clear out the chaff and get some extra workers instead.

  • @michaelappleby3622
    @michaelappleby3622 Месяц назад

    would love to see a video on what the good ship sets nowadays are, I haven't really played since spamming neutron launchers was the meta, and I just have no idea which weapons are compatible or just the best anymore. Super helpful vid!

  • @tararose5650
    @tararose5650 17 дней назад

    Xeno compatibility... seriously your description was riding the line, too funny XD

  • @Roman-bk5wn
    @Roman-bk5wn Месяц назад +3

    Xeno compatibility you might be sleeping on - what about on spiritualist (or no robots) - max out pop growth through the ascension perk with migration treaties?

  • @arthasmenethil4399
    @arthasmenethil4399 Месяц назад +1

    Will we get an updated weapons tier list or is the most recent one still applicable? I'm a bit frustrated with the auto designer again :D

  • @immoplays9587
    @immoplays9587 Месяц назад

    little correction to you machine worlds. you said it doubles the job output, but it doubles the amount of jobs per district in stead. so for example a mining district wont provide two jobs but instead four.

  • @colorblindwizard7200
    @colorblindwizard7200 Месяц назад +2

    I would have put an addendum for Lord of War for the new Tactical Algorithms Civic, as you gain 10% Shield Hardening for each Merc Enclave, I have tested it out and man can you stack hardening to crazy numbers.

  • @DamenJoost
    @DamenJoost Месяц назад +1

    Seeing Sins 2 makes me happy. Will dive in at some point during the year but too busy now.

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Месяц назад

      it's not out on steam just yet anyway!

  • @reaperking2121
    @reaperking2121 Месяц назад

    As someone who loves playing a Star Trek type Earth Xeno Compatabillity is one of my go toos for the exact reasons you gave . It means I don’t have to force an entire empire down the path of bio transference but still can reap the rewards of playing as a peaceful paragon with undress of species in my empire

  • @theinnkeeper1340
    @theinnkeeper1340 Месяц назад +1

    Why is your voice so soothing and relaxing lol

    • @sethroseblood9456
      @sethroseblood9456 Месяц назад

      So true I almost don't even mind when he has to shill

  • @Tahsaray
    @Tahsaray Месяц назад +3

    Hell yeah, Pantheon reference! I love that show, some of the best sci fi in forever.

  • @patrickdargel4684
    @patrickdargel4684 Месяц назад +1

    I would like to put a little * behind Archaeo-Engineers:
    It is still the case that if you are selecting "Galactic Nemesis" the ressource costs for the ships are a fixed amount of minerals. so, even a fully archaeo equiped menace cruiser still only costs 900 minerals and no minor artefacts.
    @Montu would that change the position of that Perk ?

  • @echofoxgaming7334
    @echofoxgaming7334 Месяц назад

    I always forget you do the secret callouts and I love them every time! I think they’re very compatible with your style (wink wink)

  • @andromedach
    @andromedach Месяц назад

    Given the rankings it would be interesting to see which AP you would choose from first through fifth based on empire type. I still think Grasp the Void has use for machine empires

  • @immoplays9587
    @immoplays9587 Месяц назад +2

    fun fact you can still chose defender of the galaxy and a crysis perk. but you have to pick the defender perk first, since the crisis perks dont check wether or not you took defender of the galaxy

  • @serban031
    @serban031 Месяц назад

    I believe you can still do defender and crisis ascension perks by taking defender first. I was able to do it a couple of times while doing a cosmogenesis run

  • @scottdesemberer8751
    @scottdesemberer8751 Месяц назад

    I would like to hear Montu opinion on buffs and nerfs for acsension perks in same format

  • @RagnellAvalon
    @RagnellAvalon Месяц назад

    Something to be mindful about with Consecrete World is that if you are next to the Holy Guardians Fallen Empire, choosing to consecrate one of their Holy Worlds will give you a **+30** opinion buff with them for each one you consecrate, which can get them completely on your side. If you were thinking about unity rushing anyway this is a huge boost, but in niche scenarios it might be worth doing just to get periodic gifts, especially since they can include rare technologies.
    I don't think that makes it better than C tier but it's an interesting opportunity that can be compatible with a lot of styles, since only the situation matters.

  • @panzerjaeger016
    @panzerjaeger016 Месяц назад

    21:22 I think that what is often forgotten for Dyson Spheres is that Stars get a massive output boost.
    Which can include Research, stacking that on a Physics Star, can give quite a bit of research and put one ahead of the competition.
    Also, it’s very compatible 😉

  • @gorgeousfreeman1318
    @gorgeousfreeman1318 Месяц назад

    Would love to see how Individualist Machines change the meta on machine traits!

  • @letsplaysvonaja1714
    @letsplaysvonaja1714 Месяц назад

    I like how you mention all the advantages of virtual without mentioning any of the drawbacks and restrictions XD

  • @jaykolokithas9329
    @jaykolokithas9329 Месяц назад

    Master of nature has the upside of letting you commit more districts to a single worker type. You can specialize whole planets district to just mining generator or food as needed and can be very nice there.

  • @cstains5543
    @cstains5543 Месяц назад +1

    I don't know what settings Montu plays on but on average I find around 10 to 15 Toxic worlds just in one quadrant of the total galaxy and I've had over 25 Toxic worlds in just my empire alone before late game mass expansion in some playthroughs. So Detox really comes down to total number of recoverable worlds If you've got less than 5 it's an F tier, around 10 it's C, 15 to 24 B and if you've got over 25 it's definitely A tier.
    I play on huge galaxies, so that probably effects total weight of the Detox perk as I've have games where 've found six toxic terraformable worlds just in my core district.
    Also if you hunt down the various learning bonuses (adding Heroic Past, using the orb touched as your Storyteller meaning he'll eventually be a permanent level 10 adding 20%) and Vaults of Knowledge (after building the Vault of Knowledge itself adds +1% leadership XP gain per new legendary leader), taking both as Council positions, adding Transcendent learning on top, plus the Neural tissue tech from the wormhole system with the insane Psionic entity, before the Vault added boost, with the Quick Learners I believe you can get to around an 80% boost to leadership XP for every leader in your empire before adding in the Vaults of Knowledge bonus which will only increase as more leaders reach legendary status.

  • @TheFlepmelg
    @TheFlepmelg Месяц назад +1

    Hey there Montu! New player here. I got about 50 hours in and really love the game. I watched loads of your videos to get the hang of the game, thank you for that! I however struggle with getting my head around some of the compatability (!) between all the various choices I have as a player. I have no idea what to pick simply because I don't know whats available and how stuff works together. Is there anything out there that will help me make a 'build'?

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Месяц назад +1

      Head over to the Stellaris Official Discord, or my own discord server. Loads of people there will be happy to suggest builds & combos!

  • @Haagaustin
    @Haagaustin Месяц назад

    I'm so inspired to make some kind of Blorg Xenophile Empire, but how could I tweak to the Blorg to be less stinky and repugnant and more compatible with other species? Is Unruly still a good trait to replace repugnant with? Is the Blorg playstyle even viable? I bet Xeno Compatibility would be essential but some advice for a newbie would be appreciated.

  • @PayAttEx
    @PayAttEx Месяц назад

    I took Detox in my current game for the first time since I came around multiple Toxic size 20+ planets and I also had the ability from Relics and Paragon to turn them into Gaia. Basically Detox gave me access to the biggest planets in my space and in turn that's several size 20+ Gaia planets that come online in the first 100 years.

  • @disnark
    @disnark Месяц назад

    I’ve played with consecrated worlds in games where I start with a number of sub-30% planets in my area, which I imagine is the intended way to use it. If they adjusted the numbers up even slightly, I think it would be REALLY good.

  • @sirgaz8699
    @sirgaz8699 Месяц назад +1

    I really like Mastery of Nature even on wide because when I go wide I don't make duel use planets just to save on micro and MoN lets me get +50% out of a world.
    Edit: after they added trust to diplomacy I have never had an empire accept a commercial pact before allowing an embassy, the balance team should probably look at that.
    Edit 2: Xeno-compatibility is best on Overtuned Cyborgs as it lets you take all 3 auto-moding traits though I'd only ever take it if I had a mod that removed half breeds and just gives you the trait point and pick.

  • @immoplays9587
    @immoplays9587 Месяц назад +1

    with the new +2 jobs per district on machine worlds i used toxic Terraforming and got an additional 6 colonies with 16-24 planet Size. i was just lucky to have 6 of them in my 14 systems wide empire. and with them being of a dcend size and the ability to double the jobs per district with machine worlds and extra job output through orbital rings it was just the Beter pic for me than habitats. But yes generaly habitat ascention is normaly better than toxic terraforming.

  • @larstollefsen1236
    @larstollefsen1236 Месяц назад

    What is the clip at the beginning? I wish you'd credit them as I don't always recognize them.

  • @franksoto4302
    @franksoto4302 Месяц назад

    So there you missed the niche use case for grasp the void if your using astro mining civic especially in conjunction with the arc furnace origin. Only peasants have any worker pops in their empire, especially when you can harvest the bounty of space

  • @VorTheRhino
    @VorTheRhino Месяц назад

    I was looking for this video yesterday. Weird!

  • @michaelfranke3407
    @michaelfranke3407 Месяц назад

    I really like how 'compatible' the hydrocentric perk is with terraforming weapons.

  • @ScorpioneOrzion
    @ScorpioneOrzion Месяц назад

    3:35 archeotech is also above F tier if and only if you have the rubicator as well, offsets the cost a lot

  • @the_luckiest_charm
    @the_luckiest_charm Месяц назад +1

    You should make a Relic tier list. I no theres not really a point, since their completely random, and therefore have no opportunity cost, but i still want to see whether what i think is good is actually good

  • @aze94
    @aze94 Месяц назад

    I think you could have mentioned that the consecrate world perk has unique effects with the knights of the toxic god origin, namely that you can consecrate toxic worlds into holy worlds. This grants a huge unity boost.

  • @danieldancza6171
    @danieldancza6171 4 дня назад

    Funnily enough I still frequently use divided patronage. As someone who likes to peacefully vassalise their neighbours (and generally keep good relations with said vassals) the extra 2 envoys (especially early on) are really nice, and the divided patronage thing does also help in keeping everyone happy

  • @danielk5780
    @danielk5780 Месяц назад

    I wonder how Mechromancy would work with the Synaptic Lathe? Would you be getting 33% of pops your flushed through there back?

  • @DotaMobaUnionRu
    @DotaMobaUnionRu Месяц назад +2

    Organics is compatible with machine authority if it plays as bio-trophy.

  • @cp1cupcake
    @cp1cupcake Месяц назад

    Is the archaeotech one somewhat worth if you are using nanite/nemisis/cosmogenisis ships which have a fixed cost?

  • @vuhlko
    @vuhlko Месяц назад

    I find this video compatible to my planning !

  • @justinboggs
    @justinboggs Месяц назад +3

    I need to know what show the intro clip is from hoping to binge watch it tonight!

  • @VictorKiithsa
    @VictorKiithsa Месяц назад

    It would be really cool if the next expansion was about bio technologies and living ships, which would have a nice compatibility with the machine age expansion

  • @BridgeFairy
    @BridgeFairy Месяц назад

    If you are doing a turtle build Archaeotech becomes A~ i think. It automatically equips the your star-base's with improved archaeotech components. It may sound silly but there are a lot of times where you loose games by a thin margin when your fortress falls ^^

  • @trainheartnet5657
    @trainheartnet5657 Месяц назад

    I went down the cyborg origin/ascension path. The origin gives you pops with random, unmodifiable cyborg traits. This was also the first playthrough I tried Xeno-Compatibility in.
    When I hovered my pops tab, my screen literally couldn't fit all the half-species on it. Managing my species tab was nigh impossible, so I just let it go eventually.😅

  • @PerfectAlibi1
    @PerfectAlibi1 Месяц назад +1

    Archaeo-Engineers, I once had a minor artefact income 30+!
    And I would constantly get a full storage of the things...
    So stacking a few reduction modifiers, it allowed me to build several fleets with the fancy weapons ^^

    • @Kl0zi9999
      @Kl0zi9999 Месяц назад

      That's the thing though, you 'once' had it, for general it wouldn't be valid, but if you did it could be worth it.

  • @ewantucker7277
    @ewantucker7277 Месяц назад

    Archaeotech does become more viable if you get the Rubricator. Also, isn't xenocompability hard on the computer processor?

  • @usernameunknown2823
    @usernameunknown2823 Месяц назад

    In regards to Machine Worlds, I think it’s one of the best techs you can possibly get for machine empires.
    HOWEVER.
    Now that Catalytic Processing makes your alloy production ridiculous, a good tip is to have a few planets for food production regardless.
    Also, cosmogenesis is the STRONGEST ascension perk I have ever used. The fallen empire ships are ridiculously strong, and ensure that you won’t really need that extra Endgame Damage Buff (albeit it still helps).

  • @primykins106
    @primykins106 Месяц назад

    What anime was that opening clip from? 😱
    [Edit] Pantheon! Amazing! That's gonr straight on my watch list! Thanks, Montu! ❤

  • @wrthfulhammer
    @wrthfulhammer Месяц назад

    If you do overtuned origin, is genetic more compatible. Or does cybernetic win out?

  • @kylestevens6544
    @kylestevens6544 Месяц назад

    I only take Xeno-compatability when im role-playing Zena, Princess Warrior. I assume they are related and it'd be nice if the got along.
    Your videos are a massive help my man

  • @danielk5780
    @danielk5780 Месяц назад

    Would you be interested in making a Destiny Trait Tier List for Leaders? It would be very interesting to hear your opinion, especially with the current cheese that lets you recruit Commanders out of the Leader Pool that are already Level 8 and give you access to Destiny Traits right out of the gate.

  • @kyledeweerd8870
    @kyledeweerd8870 Месяц назад

    If you go nanotech, can you get nanotech ecumenopolis planets? Or if you use “subsume world” does that make that planet not able to become an ecumenopolis?

  • @VoidBetween
    @VoidBetween Месяц назад +1

    Note Consecrate Worlds is a bit more compatible for Knight of the Toxic God as they have a high chance to get max rewards from Consecrating otherwise useless toxic worlds.

  • @TheGrafford
    @TheGrafford Месяц назад

    You really put the xeno in the compatibility with this one

  • @Noir1234
    @Noir1234 Месяц назад

    11:05 - Mastery of Nature also does not work on Nanite Worlds, created by a Nanotech empire.
    But its probably a bug with the Nanite World, also Nanite Worlds from the L-Cluster event and other ones are not the same for a Nanotech empire.
    Also you can't transform the Capital Planet of a Nanotech empire to a Nanite World, you have to swap the Capital to a already transformed world if you want to do it.

  • @regiuseques6333
    @regiuseques6333 Месяц назад

    He was kinder to my organic ascension than I expected. Thank you Montu even if it sucks.