How Sevagoth Became The Forgotten Warframe
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Sevagoth is the ghastly shadow of Warframe, but due to conflicting gameplay systems and the general meta, our shadowy friend was left in the dust while everyone else was reaping what he sowed. Is Sevagoth deserving of this injustice? Or have people forgotten what Sevagoth can actually do. Today let's answer that question and take a deep dive into Sevagoth.
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EDIT: NEKROS CANT HEAL SHADOWS APOLOGIES! but the equilibrium combo works
Let me know what you think about Sevagoth! I hope this video shines some more light into our ghastly friend.
Volt has won the poll results so he will be next, decide the next frame after volt by commenting down below!
As always thank you for the continued support, much appreciated
reason why i dont use it is cuz i want its prime which still doesent exist T-T
Well, Gloom is good, but not OP. Remember, Eximus and Nullifier units still exist. Also things like Eclipse, Roar and Nourish still exist. It's just that Gloom synergises well with Melee-based frames, or frames that profit from Melee(Nekros' multi-corpse bug still works with his Desecrate, that's why he still loves his meat MINCED)
Other than that, it's just Sevagoth's ability combos being Meh, his shadow being too cumbersome and him being kinda weak in terms of tankyness(that small HP pool makes Nekros and Yareli look like Inaros).
Honestly, give us an augment for Shadow to follow us and attack/cast abilities like Umbra does, and I'd show ya some insane stuff.
Nekros can heal shadows by recasting his ult
@@imran9910 bro, you are in the wrong topic. We discuss Sevagoth and his abilities here. NOT NEKROS.
Thank you for taking the time to make such an in-depth video on my favorite warframe. Until we get an actual werewolf frame, He's probably gonna stay my main. I've always personally hated the helminth system due to how it undermines the themes of each warframe and the way the system undermined Sevagoth only made this worse. A bit of a question I have for you, what is your opinion on how warframe handles firearms? To me, current state of the game makes guns feel more like complicated number generators rather than actual weapons. I understand there needs to be a way to make the game harder, but I still think bullets should be bullets. Long story short, I was curious if you think this works well for warframe or if it should be changed to eliminate a lot of the frustrations new players face when getting into the game. Thank you again for your efforts, this content is amazing.
His theme became so good, he actually turned into the forgotten warframe, suits his story perfectly.
thats disrespectful as shi but ur not wrong
@@Rxvrt forgotten warframe became forgotten once more
Other frames are even more forgot that people forgot they are forgotten lol.. at least sevagoth is new and can receive some augments or something to be remembered again
Now I’m waiting for Sevagoth as reward in the Circuit - way easier than farming in railjack WHICH NO ONE EVER CAME 😢😢😢
@@vihuynhquang5204or you can just do it solo
Fun fact about the augments, they gave every warframe an augment up until Sevagoth, then they skipped him and gave Yareli one, which was the next frame, so they literally skipped only him over here
If I remember correctly the design council did have concepts for Sev augments but then they just disappeared
Such a shame...I really like this Warframe too it's so sad to see him just unloved...
as a hard sevagoth main
i really wish they'd give us those damn augments xD
@@sentientsickness Design council here. We did design augments. Not sure what's happening.
@@kittentamer2164 this is where I ask could you tell us what they where :v?
I just built Sevagoth for the drip at first but then I discovered how good gloom is in other frames... the rest is history...
At least he had drip, unlike other frames
@@NovaUmbral Can't argue against facts.
This is literally me 😂
His kit is good but it requires you to put in a lot to make it better honestly he need a touch up not a rework all of his kit is great including his 4 doing true damage and even his resection passive that fun fact he can be built around dieing and the five kills to resect. I hope that they update his shadow, it’s a really great ability but it needs better abilities and/or the ability to helmenth its abilities imagine how op his shadow for would be if he could use roar on the shadow instead of the aoe thing
@@NovaUmbral Rhino without a skin
I was beginning to believe that I was the only sevagoth main, and now I believe it .
At least he's got a wicked design!
Sevagoth enjoyer reporting in! Now we are with two :D
Seriously though, he has one of the coolest designs, I love his Stand ultimate and he's totally SP viable as well with Gloom and some good power strength (And atleast like 10 forma i think? :)). 💪
Sevagoth main here too lol
you're not alone brother
I wanted to invest into Sevagoth, as I really liked his kit, but then I got Baruuk... needless to say my Baruuk has Gloom now
When your best ability can be subsumed and you're a pain to build completely, it happens
Sad xaku noises
@@-Scrye I mean Xaku can totally be used in crate nuking
Ay, I main Sevagoth too.
@@-Scrye Xaku is fantastic tf
No offense but it wasn't hard to get sevagoth even in rj missions and wasn't hard to build the rss were abundant unless new to railjack but only couple hrs to grind for regardless
immediately as I saw the title I remembered that one moment when sevagoth launched that I started to main him but that got thrown out the window within like 2 months and now he only acts as the useful subsume
Ima be honestly 2 months for a game with 51 characters that’s a pretty good average
@@KaVaKaZi bro its a exclusively pve game shut up stop bitching about a game where pvp is not played
@@KaVaKaZi It doesn’t detract from anyone’s experience so it getting nerfed is unlikely.
@@KaVaKaZi imagine being mad at people for trying to not die…
@@KaVaKaZi honestly weird
One of my biggest gripes with Sevagoth is the need to forma 3 different items to fit everything on. You have to forma the frame, the shadow, AND the claws if you want to fully optimize him. The amount of leveling and forma required is insane and really highlighted the issue of building up exalted weapons. I don't know why you can't put a free forma onto them when you forma the frame itself.
Yeah that's why I don't play him even though I love the frame and design. Waiting for the prime before I go all in with umbral forma etc.
While I respect your opinion and it's really valid I disagree I kinda like jt sev can be one of the most S teir characters but he needs alot of investment and I kinda like that
Exactly!!! When you forma a warframe, their exalted weapons should get the forma too, with sevagoth its like building 3 warframes with the amount of forma spent.
@@aureliusxvincent that would help my titania cause of her diwata and dex pixia both need formas
@@leeleechi6560 Only reason he's S tier is bc of gloom
Honestly i think he needs awesome augments, for example, an augment for his 4th that instead of you getting control of it, the shadow just goes behind you and attacks when you attack with melee, or something like that
Definitely! It is so sad that he has no augments.
…. You just want a Stand, don’t you?
@@14megasxlr yes
@@14megasxlr who wouldn't?
As awesome as that sounds, I'd rather see that as chroma's 4th, dude needs it, he's so boring
Umm, correction:
Nekros's shadows don't heal from Gloom. Tested it multiple times. But Nekros with Despoil&Equilibrium combo does become immortal.
Apologies I was browsing some nekros builds and a few people on youtube were saying that, ill edit the pinned to correct it!
@@NovaUmbral well to be more precise, it works like this:
Gloom is your option when you either:
1. Facing a&&hole acolytes like Loki and Limbo, as well as Nekros(summoning shadow Acolytes) and Frost (after 1 hour late in Void Relic SP survival) .
2. You are alone, so you need all the tank layers that you have, on top of obvious Shield of Shadows + Adaptation combo.
I was positively surprised that Despoil&Equilibrium combo WAS NOT ruined by Gloom's drain. Because I still had INFINITE MANA as long as I killed enemies. Even with Energy Effincency being around 50% or even less.
🤓
@@chainsawplayin oh, gee, so "original" and "funny". We are all literally shitting ourselves from laughter over here.
Here's your clown pass, you dropped it back in your kindergarten.
even more nutty as you can save a mod slot by running Arcane Blessing instead of vitality, the safety given by Gloom making it work
The worst bug I ever encountered as a Sevagoth main is the tendency of his shadow to not spawn when he's downed. The tombstone he's supposed to turn into doesn't appear either. Sevagoth just freezes helplessly in a constipated pose.
How unreliable his passive is, however, doesn't make me adore him any less.
I absolutely love him, but the bugs and jankiness makes it hard ngl and bc of it, I tend to pick my other frames I like (Nidus, Grendel, Lavos, and even Khora - I have a lot of favs lol)
Sevegoth is also a forma devourer. To really squeeze the best out of all his kit, you're going to want like 3 forma on sevegoth, 3 on the shadow, and 3 on the claws. He just doesn't feel worth that many forma for the limitations he has, and the difficulty farming him. Sevegoth's first augment mod, if they ever give him one, should be one that lets the energy in his non equipped form, regenerate while in the other form. It became tedious to leave shadow, and then later return to shadow, and realize you've got like 5 energy and can't use any powers yet, or you swap back to sevegoth, and face the same problem. That would make him more appealing right there, because its easy to forget where an alt forms energy pool left off, while you're running around killing stuff in another form.
Nah fr i have a 1 forma limit on non primes
For the Shadow, equip preparation, yeah, that meme mod of starting with filled energy? Well results i counts has a spawn each time you summon it, so you will have that amount of energy each time
@@lordlightskin4200 that's dumb as fuck
If you use preparation the shadow procs it each time you swap
@@sirlionclaw9639 ooh. nice find. I did not know that. going to go give that a try. thanks
I actually love Sevagoth.. he's got awesome survivability..
I think he'll come back with more skins and augments.
Yea he's still kinda new. Still have alota things to get
Your prayers have been answered lol
I absolutely loved Sevagoth when he was released, so much so that he’s still my number 1 most used frame even after months of not playing him. His design, theme and exalted form are all very cool and unique. He definitely has some good things going for him too being Gloom, his passive, and his extremely powerful shadow form/claws. The reason I stopped liking him so much is his performance. I just don’t like the way he wants to be built and I think other frames can both utilize Gloom better and accomplish tasks better. He wants heavy investment into strength but also needs at least a little bit of every other stat which really limits the builds imo. I always subsume off Sow because that’s his most useless ability, but there aren’t really any helminth ability synergies that he can do something new or special with. He’s also very energy hungry and even with arcane energize it can be hard to maintain. To be fair, the archon shard system and armor strip buffs have probably diversified his building a bit so I’ll have to revisit him some time. I would realllllly like to see Sevagoth get some augment mods because I think that could potentially bring something new and exciting for him.
I Wana add to what you all said also. And for his fourth ability being that Warframe is a fast paced game when I first got to using his shadow form I had a second thought like wait it's a shadow shouldn't shadows be fast? Like wulongd most ability and then I thought to myself why didn't they just go with an all melee titania thing where he basically flies around like an archwing in mission but can only use his claws, meaning melee only? Then at least he could keept up with other frames if playing multiplayer idk I think they rushed his kit cuz as a Warframe himself I think took a long time to create he really needs a touch up or reword on his abilities cuz I absolutely went berserk when I first saw him, like you I want to main the crap outta him but his performance falls flat and he is immensely energy hungry it's rediculous cuz all of his abilities need eachother to make the most of the abilities and that requires much more energy which isn't fair, honestly after they made lavos I was kinda hoping they would start integrating more cool down abilities in other Warframes but alas has not happened
I got a tauforged amber archon shard for extra energy pickup, very very very nice to have. Honestly never really have energy problems.
Edit: Also I don't even have arcane energize either.
People be sleeping on Silence Sevagoth for REAL.
95% slow as the enemies do that “aaah I can’t hear” stun animation? It’s really damn good!
Silence turns off a lot of Eximus Auras too, so it makes survivals even easier, and you have plenty of space to breath + use your Shadow!
Oh that's big brain!~
you can put gloom on banshee and do the same thing..
@@snowlprincxss
Yeah, I could but
She's not as survivalable
Gotta chose between either keeping her 1 or 4, neither of which are as good as Sevagoths abilities imo
And I know sonar is amazing damage amp ability, I used to use it a lot, but Sevagoths Shadow is just so much better imo.
@@ThatHollowGuy that's what you like then that's fine, personally just hate playing sevagoth and very much prefer playing banshee
@@ThatHollowGuy Keeping Banshee's 1 is a no-brainer; With the augment it's a very good armor strip, so it's always going to be her 4 that gets switched out....
He is one of my favorite frames in the game I find his aesthetics and gameplay really fun and can’t wait for his prime or an augment to come out for my spooky boi
These recent videos of yours are so, so amazing and enjoyable. I'm slightly new to Warframe and it's very interesting to me to learn about the little history of warframe releases and I was wondering why Sevagoth was basically unused not long before this upload. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the kind words!
Another note is that Sevagoth's shadow is unaffected by nullifier's bubble however if you're in shadow form and Sevagoth himself is in the nullifier's bubble it will kick you out of shadow form.
I put 17 forma into my sevagoth. I love the theme and playstyle that much. I went from a combo build on his shadow to a heavy attack build. I pretty much play as a regular frame but switch to shadow for a quick kill on a heavy unit. I like him a lot on disruption missions or against acolytes.
i noticed that the railjack quest can be done much faster now compared to months ago
Reap and Sow shouldn't be separate abilities. One should be on tap, the other on hold. It feels like we've regressed all the way back to Ember's Accelerant days, the way one ability serves entirely to buff another. If Sevagoth could've had either a movement ability, or a tanking ability in that slot instead, he'd catch up to the meta.
I love Sevagoth, but not only he has 3 things requiring formas (claws, his clone and himself), but also he's not prime. I won't throw 20 formas into him just to repeat that process when prime version releses.
You don't have to do that unless you're a perfectionist/or sometimes the base frame is better if you're a perfectionist. I personally didn't invest in Nekros P because I could care less about reinvesting. Base Nekros has a smaller shield capacity making my shield-gate set-up more reliable. So my base Nekros is Umbral and has 5 archon shards lol.
@@rawkhawk414But helminth exists, so once prime version of a Warframe comes out, the normal one goes to the maw (at least in my books)
Sevagoth is to me one of the most intresting and more complex frames in the game, also lore wise he is VERY intresting with his whole "I may be gods most edgy boy but I actually saved lives of many MANY people from voud stroms and hostile pirates out in space with my railjack, the Tempistari." And I like his quest was about putting him to rest.
His kit is super duper cool but again its a little odd, Its like Baruuk but if instead of Baruuk getting to become a air bender instead he activates his four and Valkyr with good abilities just popped out and went ham. Also he suffers a lot from issue of most frames do his job with less setup, are easier to get and can feel more fun.
Also having to play railjack for most people makes him a pain to get but I happen to LOVE railjack and even with all my time in Railjack I've barely actually seen his parts, he is kinda unnecessarily a pain to get.
All in all, cool frame, Ima stick to Baruuk memes
Edit: Sleeping in the cold below fucking SMACKS and the Tempistari skin SMACKS and also Gloom is good on everyone
Problem is, a lot of frames go largely ignored at this point, and that's not just because of how many options there are now, but because of how quickly they've been throwing them out. Until around 2018 or so, seeing a new frame be announced was an exciting occasion that got the whole community hyped over it, and it was always something that you could tell they put a lot of work and thought into. Nowadays, they just casually announce a frame on every other devstream, and generally have anywhere between 3 and 4 of them in development at once. Half the time, you can't even tell what the theme of the frame is even supposed to be, as they just throw seemingly randomly selected powers together, give it yet another super cluttered design, and call it a day. Warframes used to be developed with a quality over quantity mindset, and now it's the other way around.
Sure, you'll still see the occasional new frame that's really unique and has good abilities, but for the most part what we usually get these days is just frames that either just do the same things the older frames already do and do better, or they do something unique that is so incredibly situational or impractical that nobody bothers trying to use it over the simpler and often more effective options the game offers. It really doesn't help either that they've been slowly making each new frame even more of a grind to obtain than the last, and most players aren't going to waste their time grinding for something that isn't even all that extraordinary.
DE just needs to dial back on pumping out new warframes left and right, only adding one when they actually have a really good idea instead of trying to throw out something new whether they've got a good idea or not just for the sake of having a new frame to announce. Though, DE's commitment to prioritizing hype generation at all costs is something that negatively affects every aspect of this game, not just the warframes, and it has for years now.
Excellently put
I'm guessing this is why they're dropping slowly for uh "Warframe 2", Soulframe.
I personally stopped playing a couple months ago, early august last year, burned out from farming them content isles, didn't do Cetus nor the Raquis, got the arcanes I wanted from pub trilodon hunting, begrudgingly did Vallis for Yareli and the Kitguns, then solo'd most if not all my way into Deimos for the subsuming thing. AND left there. Really can't bother to finish the grind to unlock even the New War, new content really isn't worth grinding for, there's no reason for me to keep going after having reached mr30.
we dont talk about caliban
De is on a track record imo rn styanax and voruna are pretty solid ngl
They need to keep pumping new frames per year so they can keep releasing prime access every 4 months or so.
It's how they make money
I request you to cover my favorite frame the musical t-bag of doom
The most deadly instrument, Lipton
He's my favorite frame and I've been playing for a number of years. The moment he came out I was hyped for his prime, and he's my new most commonly used frame just cause his theme and kit are fun.
Im the type of dude that would get his prime just to subsume it if i could
We got voruna now and I use her more than him but he is fun to play and makes you feel powerful. The pain is to farm him so I can get his helminth and still have sevagoth.
I have no idea how he’s not one of the most popular characters he immediately gave me the best vibes
Love to see Sevagoth getting some much-needed recognition, he's still my most used frame by a long shot simply by the fact that he's just extremely fun to use and pretty solid in early-to-mid game content
Oh and fashion speaking he's one of the coolest frames out there so win-win
😭 he my fav frame by far
Ghs- oh what a nice vid, I should upload this to my channel tomorrow
When Sevagoth first came out, I was super excited to try him, but at the time I didn't have Railjack and I was playing pretty slowly at the time so I never actually got him before I took a break from the game.
Also I'd love a video about one of the trio of beginner Frames or Loki.
I love your vids NovaUmbral. I'm new to the game and mostly completing the star chart, questing, farming MR and early standing, and building cool shit I wanna try like Citrine. Anyways, I watch your videos a lot while I'm playing and although I don't understand everything you talk about in your vids, I have definitely already learned a lot
I still love Sevagoth tbh.
His drip was my first reason to get him but his theme execution, kit complexity and duality of semi-support (Sevagoth's Gloom) and damage (Shadow + Claws) just fits what I didn't know I was looking for.
The obvious gripe would be having to forma Sevagoth himself, his Shadow and the Claws to optimize everything though.
I actually used him nearly non-stop for months when he came out. And then DE decided to make Eximus' units imune to CC, meaning alot less survivability and damage for the Shadow as he can no longer yoink them into melee range and 1-shot them.
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I have to wonder if you said that knowing about the "sevagoth's shadow appears behind the arsenal if you look at a sevagoth link" glitch when he first came out
Well uh now sevs pretty popular with his drippy prime. He seriously has the best prime design imo
I started watching and immediately liked for that opening. Just the editing put into matching with the beat told me I was about to watch quality content.
I would happily main him as his design is already so cool and the lore and all but one thing that discourages me is the nature of the helminth system as consumed warframes are gone gone plus knowing that every warframe will have its prime variant with no exception as we saw with Valkyr and Nidus, we cannot transfer forma not even reactors from non-prime to prime variants (not that I'm asking to) but I'm just not gonna put in the effort to build him now when a better variant is confirmed in what 2 years, maybe I am the problem but that's how I see it, the farming is fine at least for me, I have enough parts to build what 3 sevagoths bc I sometimes do skirmish void storms to farm intrinsics, I do use some non-primed warframes(mainly Lavos and Wisp) but with minimum effort so a reactor is all they get, I think one more thing that helped discouraging people from using Sevagoth is the fact that he doesn't have any aura polarity as that's basically a mandatory forma
sry for any grammatical errors btw, english is my 3rd language and I'm still learning
I'm a (Wraith) Sevagoth main, got 33% usage and 150m experience on him. Main reasons I play him are for the edginess but I also like being able to build his base form and ghost form differently. I build his base form for the max gloom slow of 95% and his ghost form for range and duration. A cool thing to note is that the archon shards put on his base form also affect his ghost form. I think if DE nerfed the gloom subsume ability to take away either the slow or heal, sevagoth may become more popular.
Sevagoth: What is my purpose?
Tenno: To subsume Gloom.
Sevagoth: (looks around) Oh my god…
😂😭
Dude. I love your videos, as a player who has played for almost 7 years your Mesa video really took me back to the past.
Thought you should know that grind hard squad just pretty much copied your video.
Thanks for letting me know
He’s been copying many people’s videos lately. The textbook definition of a parasite.
As a Garuda main I'm really interested in Sevagoth who will soon become my second main
Ngl I think Sevagoth is an excellent frame. His damage output is great and his abilities work together perfectly. That and he looks so awesome as well. Now yes better frames exist (Xaku main here) but the effort is worth it IMO just for the fun factor.
Man, one of my favorites Warframes, and one of my favorites Cyberspace Music as well
Sevagoth is good, but the thing is, he is just outshined by other warframes, especially those that profit from his Gloom.
D.E. will see this usage rate and either nerf gloom or make it diminished for helminth
@@_4shy yeah, because Pablo is a narrow-minded jerk with no sense of "fun". He thinks it's fun scrouging for every single small resource, and I am not kidding.
I would argue Void Storms are one of the most rewarding farms in the game. It gives relics, void traces, keys for tenant weapons, cracks relics, and a warframe part.
As someone who had his main’s playstyle changed so many times, I could see Gloom getting nerfed or tweeked.
But I feel if they made some drastic change to Gloom, there will be people rioting
I think the helminth version should be changed because they changed other helminth abilities from the original.. the "highly used ones".
Yeah they made a relatively tame change to AoE and the chinese lost their damn minds. I think the gloom thing would tilt everyone lol
Found your channel 2 days ago and i have watched all your warframe videos. Love the content, even though i don't play warframe anymore. Keep it up man.
I forgot about Caliban way faster than Sevagoth
Finally, only took four years but I found a Warframe video with Sonic music
I genuinely forget all the time that gloom isnt Garudas ability, it just fits her way too well....
Im using him, one of my mosted used warframe.
And to your reasons ill also point out high upgrde cost because you need to forma him, shadow and claws
I think if Sevagoth got a couple of good augments for his 1,2, or 4th that could really help him out.
I agree. The Sevagoth is a under used frame (and gloom is over used ability). Two builds that I like to run are a Breach Surge, Reap and Sow nuke build ( %based damage creating damage multiplied sparks hiting -DR targets is nice. ) and a Nourish + Gloom stun lock build. (Used to be Piecing Roar but Nourish does similar and has increased energy management)
requires too much investment to get good and even then he is just mediocre
The trade off is not worth sadly, despite having a fully organized kit and abilities, he does need that extra push to become more popular and used
Can't wait for you to review my favorite Warframe that no one plays - Octavia!
She's so fucking busted and yet there's barely anyone running her.
Oh, and she has the best Tennogen skin that turns her basically into Hatsune Miku.
I feel like a big reason he isn't used nowadays is because of the massive Forma investment. Being a non-prime, a tank build usually takes 5-6 forma. With more forma needed to be invested into his Claws and Shadow, it's enough to turn most casual players away, especially with the fact it takes a day to craft each forma.
Sell 2 frame sets, buy 5 of the 3 forma bundles for 175p, done. Or if you've got the blueprints stashed, 150p to rush all the forma, done. Can have all the forma you need in one afternoons effort 👌
To be fair, I also don't see a lot of Gyre either since Styanax dropped
This video sold me. Bought Sev, and it was absolutely worth it. Cannon fodder is just food for the well with extra steps, and his shadow can be a get out of trouble free card on a regular basis.
After having watched more of the video you have earned my sub. I've played one and off since the closed alphas and this video was very well put together.
Glad you liked the video
lmao just found your video about how sevagoth is underrated, I just got him right after I finished the tempestarii quest and looked up on how to use him
Gloom being subsumable isnt sevs main problem anymore than xatas whisper-the best damage buff in the game next to roar (and better than roar with faction mods)-is xakus problem. Seems more a subjective ethical concern than a measurable objective statement. The problem with sev is everything else you mentioned. I would happily play an immobile but devastating shadow if i could recharge that shadow while in form, similar to baruuks fists with lull/daggers. That i have to do his ability combos to fill up the well for a minute and 40 seconds is lame and unrewarding. He should be able to apply more than 1 death mark, his blast should be buffable in terms of dps and radius and his energy costs should go down. Sev is a sick concept but DE is incompetent and terrified of giving frames power because despite building caster frames regularly, theyre stuck in 2015 “buff your gun shoot your gun” as if warframe is actually a true shooter game (it isnt; easily the most boring gun play of any game like it)
What isnt mentioned is that both sets of arcanes are active all the time. Both main and shadow arcanes. Having 4 arcanes adds a lot of power.
F-cking excuse me. . . Are you serious?
@@adarkwind4712 Yeah, you can test it. It says it shouldn't / doesn't. But it really does.
I love your editing!
and about sevagothic-boy. for me it is insane forma sink. I dont wanna spend so much time and resources and then just sell it for credits when prime will come. (even though I have enough forma in my inventory I dont have that much time).
but in the future, I will try to learn how to play him. I guess.
Honestly while I agree that Gloom being an amazing Subsumable ability really kicks Sevagoth where it hurts, I'm also glad that such a good ability is subsumable. I don't want it to be removed or changed to no longer be his Subsume, I'd just like to see his other abilities brought up to speed to make him worth using on his own, rather than just Helminth fodder to get his 3. He is honestly a really interesting frame with neat abilities, but I agree that some parts of his kit could/should be buffed or changed in some way to further enhance them and their synergy with one another. It'd probably be pretty easy to overdo it and suddenly turn him from a sleeper into a meta monster, but surely it could be implemented and tweaked over a few patches to make him formidable on his own without making him blatantly OP.
It still surprises me that they have Mag, Nova, Titania, and Nidus which were released years ago. Nearly perfect in uniform and cooperative skill design. Even with power creep they're still relevant. Sevagoth just became a sacrifice until his prime is released, that's the story.
He is just another take on Valkyr with more depth and added versatility with the shadow which is functionally the same outcome of being immortal until something stops you.
Sev has become my main since his release. Je was strong before, now after his augment, he is a force. On demand red crits and vulnerability, aoe cc and heal, subsumed dispensary for just reliable energy and ammo, and Shadow the Eximus delete button. I use incarnon boar, it does low damage, but once I use reap, damage spikes ridiculously, slash procs delete steel path enemies with 1-2 pellets.
I have mained Sevagoth and have since his release. His constant bugs and some issues with how his stats are really work against people trying to get to learn him. Not even the Naramon passive works for his shadow making it really hard to justify him to people who like exalted weaponry.
That being said, I will remain firm and main him until he gets a prime.
I am honestly praying his prime form looks more like his concept art cuz his concept art was sooooo sick, and maybe a rework or touch up on his abilities, big time
@@davidm.schreckii1426 I too, am waiting for the prime. Currently working on stockpiling forma and MR levels. Ability rework wouldn't be bad but I personally think gloom in the helminth should be altered to not be as strong as it is on Sevagoth.
I leveled Sevagoth and never really struggled playing him in the content but... I absolutely have never understood what his kit was all about. I never "got" him. So very grateful for this particular vid!
I think Sevagoth's big problem is the lack of oomph between his reap and sow synergy. You have to spam his 1 over and over again to get value out of it, and it feels very unpleasant. His best power, his 3, is subsumable. He requires a metric ton of forma to properly invest in, and is obtained from Railjack. He's just doomed to not be played much.
16:39 "With other frames, their subsumes are not their trademark."
Roar.
Larva.
Ensnare.
*WARCRY.*
If you were thinking of things like Smite or Shock, then yeah, that's true. But a great deal of warframes have their 'trademark ability' on there. Regardless, Gloom is a BIG ability, but the whole _selling point_ of Sevagoth, what the warframe _revolves_ around, is his Exalted Shadow.
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Something I've noted with people looking at Sevagoth is that they tend to look at the Exalted Shadow and Sevagoth himself as separate entities, rather than a mode switch with a different kit.
So here's the thing. 25% of total health done as blast when Sow and Reap interact. In a 4m radius.
Shadow is free to swap into as long as you have a minimum amount of Well and only takes 1% per second, meaning you have 1m40s to use him, or 25s to use him and swap back without locking yourself out. Additionally, when Shadow is swapped into, it counts as a fresh spawn; like using one of your revives or loading into the mission, meaning you can put Preparation in his exilus slot to make Shadow start with full energy every time you swap into it. _Except when it doesn't,_ as in the case of Molt Augmented.
Meaning you can press 4 to Shadow, 1 to Embrace, 4 to Reunite, and 2 to Sow and 1 to Reap and suddenly you've got a ball of enemies all doing scaling health damage to each other. And 3 of those 5 steps are functionally free.
Let's say Reap, for example, gets an augment that strips armour. This combo would become infinitely scaleable. And it was strong AT RELEASE. Look at it NOW. You can already use Terrify or Tharros Strike over Gloom to make it work - or you could even use Unairu as of Angels of the Zariman.
Hardly the shortest instakill combo, I concede, but it IS an instakill combo regardless as long as the ball is big enough. Big enough meaning "4 enemies of equal health". If a Heavy Gunner gets pulled into a crowd of Lancers, basically all the Lancers will die and the Heavy Gunner will have barely anything done to it, but remain CC'd for the duration of Embrace (which does not end just because Shadow was put away).
Now, absolutely, you could cut out a few of those steps by just putting Ensnare or Coil Horizon or Larva over Exalted Shadow, but those would cost precious energy.
And that's not even mentioning that most of the time the armour stripping isn't even requisite. If the ball is of sufficient size, non-heavy-units will get annihilated by simply spam-casting Reap 2-3 times. 5 level 185 Corrupted Lancers only needed 3 casts of Reap to kill.
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But that's just one possibility. Stretching one mechanic of his kit to its utmost limits. Let's go for something... a little more practical. A little quicker. A little stronger still. Simpler. _Free-er._
Heavy Attacks.
Sevagoth's Shadow has one.
And it forces slash procs.
Ultimately you can just use heavy attacks to obliterate even eximi even up to level 185, then swap back for the sow/reap combo to fill your Well back up.
I want sevagoth but god the fact its behind railjack is going to be a pain to grind yhe quest for was my favorite out side of the second dream and new war tho
I main Sevagoth since is released. I play Warframe since 2018 and he is my 3rd most used frame. He is very good, can do a lot of things but you need an ansurd investment for really appreciate him. The frame itself is 5-6 forma, same for claws and shadow, and 5 archon shards are practically mandatory du to the fact that all stats are important. Make an acceptable Sev is easy, min max is really complicated
I got the Sevagoth blueprint as a hift from The Lotus, bypassing the Quest for it, and so far hes my favorite warframe, and he's one of the best for infestion survival missions in my opinion. Seems like he was made for it.
Sleeping in the cold below is a banger though
I love the tempestarii quest, though it was weird because I had literally never heard of Sevagoth before I saw him for the first time, so him being hard to get definitely is fair... Hell, the Tempestarii quest doesn't even say it's about a new Warframe until the very end when you meet him.
My spooky boi, my absolute favorite Warframe
I definitely agree with most of the buff ideas
I think when (not if) subsume gloom gets nerfed Sev will be in a better spot, some cosmetics would also help
Also for newer Sev players, out rolling guard on the shadow it makes surviving easier, and make the passive guaranteed revives as long as there are enemies around
I love how you made this and immediately… a day after, Grindhardsquad made a video copying it… I hope yours gets more recognition cus of the work you put into it.
love these videos, warframe documentaries hell yeah
UPDATE 3:53 Railjack parts now take 2 min to craft. Rising tide only took me about half an hour a few days ago. And that was counting two game crashes
Sevagoth was the first frame I ever crafted seeing as I got all of his blueprints first before any other frame so even with him being forgotten I still main him seeing as he was the first I ever had(excluding the very first frame you pick at the start of the game)
As an Inaros main, that flicker of him near the end hit hard.
I have Save-a-goth in my pile, and I do occasionally have fun with him, I just don't use him that much.
Gloom's not that broken when you compare to other warframes like Wisp's power ups like haste, health regen, and shock which lasts through basically the whole match, and everyone in the group gets the buff as well so long as they occasionally run back to the reservoirs so it's a lot more cost effective, especially if they're strategically placed well enough just as an example.
In terms of stealing HP, you can easily mod any melee weapon to do that. He's also not the first warframe to have a bleedout passive like Inaros, but I'll admit his passive has a way bigger advantage since his shadow can move about the stage, and is way more powerful.
But with that being said, you can do that to your own operator as well with unairu's last gasp ability, especially with Vengeance added to it, so you can do what his shadow does, but you don't have to worry about trying to use devour and risk screwing up and flying off into a hole somewhere which cuts up a good portion of save time for him.
He does have a pretty broken shadow if you use the right mods for it when you use his final ability, I'd say that's his best feature, especially paired with berserker Fury mod.
Gloom is alright, it definitely an be fun to slow enemies down with it and gain the upper hand pretty quickly so long as you're using it within the area, and I probably should have figured you can use stretch to increase it's range, not sure why I didn't think of that lol because that would make it way more effective since it's default range isn't that far lol, so thanks for bringing my attention to that.
So negatives and positives out of the way, I just think he's OK. There's a lot of warframes though you can mod to break the game basically especially with the right weapon, and he's definitely one of them. Like that phantasma prime you been using to melt the game most of the video.
Also, he just seems too edgy for me personally lol.
When asked “drip or drown” sevagoth really chose both drip and drown
If I had a choice on how to increase sevagoths popularity, I'd probably buff the reap+ sow combo probably to make it deal percent hp scaled off strength or make it deal viral damage instead of rad. If it was percent based (scaled off strength to a cap where at X amount of strength the 2 powers can combine and make a 1+2 punch that scales) there would be dmg fall off to counteract him nuking the entire map. If it was made to deal viral instead of rad, it wouldn't need falloff anymore and could potentially scale well into the kit considering it deals true dmg already and grants dmg vulnerability. DE could go the grendel or voruna route where a cast of sow (cause theming) plants 5 or 10 stacks of viral onto enemies in a certain radius scaled by range, then reap granting the dmg vulnerability debuff and allowing the frame to still 1+2 punch nuke. There could also be an augment released for his 4 that turns it into a melee only wuclone with full range of abilities. Maybe a hold to cast and tap to turn into the shadow could work.
I started using sevagoth when I recently returned to warframe and I made a build using reap and crit modifiers to just mow down ads.
Hydroid: I'm the pirate warframe.
Sevagoth: I'm the biggest bird.
Oh and a heavy attack build on shadow is the best in slot option. One shots everything in steel path for hour's
Like so. I'd still recommend him.
Ran it twice, subsumed, happened upon second set and had a Sevvy hover spookily in arsenal for month or two.
Then I actually used it in SP as joke and he ate 5 formas pretty much immediately after cus spooks be good and fun af to run.
That's his main point of sale for me, being fun. He's kooky and shadow is kookier sidekick and he always makes me smile. I don't lament the gloom thing as much as I lament the fact he's dead to DE.
Multibuild caster/melee is so so fun once you get a second set farmed on accident and you have arcanes lying around to experiment with, and makes you invest into your playtime way more than your average Ember or Volt does (at least for me).
He's strong, really strong.
But he's buggy, and not like "oh that's visually off" he can just get stuck in shadow being unable to use any abilities and it's common enough it's "unusable" frame if i want to make progress in something.
That's what kills sevvy, i imagine, for those that did bother pressing build on the second set. He can bug out so every time you hover him and you consider sevvy as frame you go; "yeah but he can just bug out and be unfun".
Two things, bugfixed and ability to gain Soul Well (even miniscule amount) as shadow, I'd use him a lot, a WAY lot more. he'll, even just not breaking would make me spook people way more.
(to be fair it's not once per mission but the bugs that do happen it feel so bad when they do)
My Sevagoth's shadow easily does red crits in the millions...
It cost me like 15 forma to get him there, though. By far one of my favorite frames, but i can easily see how the process of making him that powerful would put off most players.
that is my biggest complaint and put off tbh, for that cost I forma'd umbral nezha prime, nikana prime, kuvor nukor and the tenet arca/for about the same cost.
I was an Oberon otp for 4 or 5 years, to put into perspective
Sevagoth is now, my most used frame.
I will agree that he is in big need of some more bug fixes, and an augment (and why not, a deluxe or voidsell tyvm), but the more I used him, the more I noticed, it's an incredibly hard warframe to balance. 100% damage ranged vulnerability debuff, while being able to double proc the burst in an aoe (or subsume a 100% armor/shield strip ability for even more of a debuff), having gloom, and an exalted form that's basically the best oh-**** button in the game besides operator, and can one shot most non-phase-based bosses... What could you give him that wouldn't
A: make him an insta S/S+ tier
Or
B: being a waste of a mod, and therefore, nothing at all would be less insulting.
In the pool of mechanics we could pick from, there is:
-giving one of his abilities resistence reductions
- more healing?
- more cc?
- making his 4 automated (most likely non game breaking and cool option, but would be a Nerf to survivability)
- duplicating one of his casts
- expanding range when X ability's effect procs
-giving allies a buff when X ability procs
- raw buff to one of his abilities (dmg, heal, cc, etc)
Almost anything you pick, isn't a "tiny" buff, even if you add no mod scaling.
I think they are afraid to over buff him, also he is buggy as hell still, so, break him too
I'm talking him having game breaking bugs for over an year.
Anyway, much love for the Ghost Pirate.
Ahoy~
So in short he’s one of the most sought-after warframes, but only for mastery fodder before being fed into the helminth woodchipper so he never sees use.
I use him with Silence on his 4th specifically for leveling gear. Silence + gloom are great in Sanctuary Onslaught when you just forma’d your weapon.
There can only be one Jotaro at any given time.
Sevagoth has been my main since he came out, wasn't aware everyone forgot about my boi
Sevagoth: “You don’t really want me, you just want me for my Gloom.” 🎶
It would be nice if they made his ultimate last forever until you return back to zevagoth or have that ultimate as a energy drain per second ability. Something like this. When he gets enough kills with his abilities he can release his shadow form and stay there as long as he wants until his shadow comes back or gets killed to start over the process or he can just have his ability just be a energy drain per second like the other frames cuz alot of people love his ultimate. I hope people would agree with this
This video got recomended to me right after Sevagoth got a Prime version lol
Hope he gets some love
As an Inaros main, I cry every day.