A quicker summary for those who want it. Tyranids: $too damned much Tau: $too damned much Necrons: $too damned much Aeldari: $too damned much Drukhari: $too damned much Orks: $too damned much Genestealers: $too damned much Chaos Space Marines: $too damned much Death Guard: $too damned much Thousand Sons: $too damned much Ad Mech: $too damned much Sisters of Battle:$too damned much Custodes: $too damned much Grey Knights: $too damned much Black Templars: $too damned much Blood Angels: $too damned much Space Wolves: $too damned much Deathwatch: $too damned much Dark Angels: $too damned much Space Marines (Phobos): $too damned much
I feel that during evaluation of these "value boxes" you always have to take into account whether or not you really WANT and NEED them for your army. A discount means nothing when you spend more money for things that you eventually will realize that you don't need / don't want for your army. This is why I always take these GW boxed sets with a grain of salt - value is there only when you'll use every single model included (or take your time selling models that you don't want on ebay).
Yes - I’ve always done value calculations like this based on “do I want it? Ok add it’s price to the running total”. I don’t see the “massive savings” sometimes, but if the discount box is cheaper than the cost of the things I want anyway, I’m sometimes tempted to do it even if I don’t care about every model in the box because hey it was still cheaper than just the parts I wanted. For example, I’m super tempted to buy a second Templar “army starter” box because they’re only $100 on Amazon now at clearance. The redemptor + crusader squad alone is worth that easy, and I’m probably saving about $10 to get the army box…. And then I can also get another marshal HQ to build the opposite weapon loadout I didn’t take the first time for free on top of it. I could donate the book/cards/champion I can’t use, and still be money ahead. Maybe if the savings gets to be more than $10….
A very valid point - a box may have significant 'savings', but it's 'value' is based entirely on what you can get out of it, versus which elements of the contents are completely useless to you
These boxes are not about building a army along the lines of "Do I want this unit or not?" or even "This is/isn't a competitive force!" They are about giving people a bunch of miniatures to build, maybe paint too, and put on the table top and play a game or too with. Once you've got past that stage and want to continue to play you cab cherry pick the units you wise to buy and use. For the rest of us we can buy these boxes, for a cheaper way to bulk out an army and maybe sell on what you don't want.
@@banhammer7243 Fair enough, but I think it depends on the army. Tyranids, GSC, Tau, Deldar and CSM are pretty much what I'd want from a box to start off an army. But Thousand Sons and Death Guard that are mostly Birdmen and Zombies? And I think it's also bit of a thematic problem, especially with those two. You want to play Space Egyptian wizards and their automatons? Have some birds! You want to follow the plague god and spread his gifts with an unstoppable force of mutated marines? Nah, it'S zombie time!
Fun fact about the death guard cp box, you actually get 10 plague marines since there are half a marine in each poxwalker sprue (legs+ half a torso, backpack and left arm). With a bit of knife work and green stuff you will be able to build 3 extra marines using your leftover bits from the plague marine sprues:)
8:35 "No one ever takes the multi-melta on the helbrute' he says, as I slowly glance up at my Thousand Sons Helbrute with Multi-Melta and power scourge.
Taking the time to put this together for newer people coming into the hobby was legit. Nice job and also explaining some of the options with the marines.
If you're trying to build a competitive list, then the discounts really only matter if the boxes contain the models you need. If you're simply playing narratively and dramatically for fun; then the discounts and model count matter far more.
Plus one can consider the fact these are generally considered to be a starting point for collecting an army (they did succeed the "start collecting" boxes after all). For someone who's looking to get their feet wet in the hobby for the first time, not only is this a modest and varied collection for a given faction, but it's instant playable: there's a battle-forged ~27PL patrol detachment right there ready to go. Having those decisions made for you until you learn enough of the game to know what else you want to add to an army is great for newcomers.
What’re the GW prices like over there? US prices don’t have the greatest conversion rate compared to pounds and euros, but they’re still better than a lot of other countries.
There aren’t many shops. When I first arrived the most prominent shop (basically a Gw style run establishment) would charge roughly $10-10% more in America dollars, depending on the size or popularity of a product. I believe they have a club style program that lets you get your purchases at general retail with a membership. After searching online I was able to find a smaller shop that gets you a typical 10% discount like one might receive in North America. Their stock is much lower, and typically you have to wait to have it shipped. But compared to the other shop that will not order anything in for you unless pay for 50% up front( I live in another city and they only do money transfers through their personal bank), customer service is far superior, and the cash on delivery system makes it easier for me as a foreigner.
@@Fuzmonster59 I mainly enjoy the painting side of the hobby but occasionally play with friends or students that are interested. In the area I’m in it certainly isn’t popular, locals think I’m insane when they find out how much it actually costs.
Disregarding the actual contents of the video, I really liked that you flipped the standard faction order on its head and put space marines last for once.
I adore the sisters of battle. To see such a neglected fan favorite suddenly reach a level of quality even the company favorites should be jealous of is incredible.
To be fair though everything in the GK box is very usable, whereas some of the other boxes have some very questionable units. Having a large saving on units you'll almost never use is not really a saving at all, therefore I think the GK box is actually quite a solid deal. I work in a large discount retailer for GW and I see the GK box routinely run out of stock, so I would think it's still popular even if it doesn't have as much value as other boxes
@@joshuazapata2234 Yep, as a GK player all you need is pretty much in the box, most of us buy like 2-3 of these + draigo and 1-2 interceptor box and you have a solid 1500-2000 pts, so at the end of the day your army cost a lot less in $ .
As a Raven Guard player, I absolutely love the space marine combat patrol. It's load of stealth type space marines are perfect for someone like me who likes to build his army to the fluff more than tabletop effectiveness and then wonder why he keeps losing. Might pick up the bood angel box too and paint em black
In Europe you can easily find the combat patrol's under 100 euro sometimes even under 90 depending on how popular they are so seems they are a way better deal here
US prices for any GW items suck compared to that side of the pond, but still not as bad as in Australia. Its not right, and their 'excuses' for it are absurd.
@@TheDigitalThreat thing is American earnings can mean that a luxury hobby item gets priced differently on their market. Don't think that the same really applies for AU though.
The 'luxury' hobby is a joke. Every "hobby" is a luxury... Besides, how is something a luxury for some locations and not others? Its just a word 'taxed' into the conversation to add some mysterious value yet offers little to no reasoning or excuse for something as "import/export" adjustments, which for little plastic molds is still higher than nearly every other single other 'luxury' item sold in the free world.
One thing about the sisters, they are monopose, but their are quite a few unique poses in that set you cant get anywhere else. The sister superior, repentia superior, canoness, simulacrum, storm bolter, and flamer sisters are all unique sculpts that add variety into a larger sisters army.
Depending on your needs, sometimes you can find value in buying a box that includes some stuff you need (pref multiple models). Say you want/need an Impulsor and a squad of incursers/infiltrators, rather than spending the 50 (ebay) or 80 (GW) on the impulsor and another $40-60 on a 10 man Infiltrator kit, you could buy the blood angels box, take out those units and turn around and sell the librarian for $20, The Intercessors for $15, and the Agressors for around $30, and say another 10-20 for the upgrades and transfers all on ebay. Takes more work but you can really squeeze out the savings by doing this type of back and forth. For the most part you will make your money back on the models you didnt keep and earn back enough to save yourself in the overall cost of the models you did keep, by you basically taking advantage of the Set value. I've noticed as long as you price things fairly just about any 'on sprue' kits will sell as there is always someone somewhere looking for specific units/kits and dont give a shit about sealed boxes.
One big difference between the generic Space Marine box and the chapter specific ones and that the SM box is all monopose. No las fusil option for the Eliminators, Suppressors all monopose. Infiltrators cannot be built as Incursors.
Coming back to 40k after like 8 years, are the old sm tactical marines gone? Like the Eliminators and Infiltrators are those just like more specialized than tactical marines?
The boxes are also good when you know you can sell the models you don’t like. For example, I’d like eliminstors and an impulsor. I’d sell the other models and I’d get 95€ worth of models for about 40€ after selling the excess.
I'd love that. Currently I've gotten 3 of my D&D group into AoS and I'm working on the 4th. I've been collecting the minis for D&D anyway so they're using my models to play, but it'd be good to have a box to recommend.
My two favorite combat patrols are Genestealer Cult and Aeldari. I don’t have either force, but they look great. I’d honestly be tempted by either if I thought I had the storage space and budget, but that would be Army #3 and …. Oof. Thousand Sons combat patrol made me incredibly sad. It only has 3 units (there’s a codex rule that tzangor units must be taken at maximum rate of 1:1 rubric + scarab to tzangor), so you have to run them as a blob of 20 out of the box to be legal.
EoB I am so glad I found your channel yesterday. You naturally have an eye for such good content. You have such an entertaining and inviting presence that every one I have seen genuinely grips the viewers attention and doesn't let go. You knowledge of Warhammer is evident and we are lucky you have dedicated your time to sharing that wisdom with us. The Warhammer community and miniature hobbyists are lucky to have you. Thank you for everything and have a great summer! (no homo)
When I started my Space Marine Dark angels army, I went with a DA Combat Patrol, and a Blood Angel CP box, and then finished it off with the Deathwatch CP box to give myself a 2000 point army in addition to the Space Marines that came in the Command edition.
Three things with the Death Guard box as someone who bought and loved it. 1. There is also a Biologius Putrifer the guy who buffs grenades and melee. 2. The box is not fieldable as a battleforged army as Poxwalkers are a 20 sized unit and you can’t have more poxwalkers than Bubonic Astartes, so you need either more marines, some termis, a opponent willing to ignore that rule or just leave 10 out. 3. The box comes with 3 spare plague marine backs so with a bit of kitbashing you can get 3 extra. Hope that helps and Blessings of the Grandfather be with you😁
FYI, the reason the Helbrute from the Dark Vengeance box A. looks better and B. only has one loadout, is because it's a named character called Mortis Metalikus. Fun fact, Mortis' original name was Sevarion Kranon, and was a birth-brother of Sevastus Kranon, the chapter master of the Crimson Slaughter. Sevastus imprisoned him in a Helbrute for being disobedient when Khorne first corrupted the Crimson Sabres into the Crimson Slaughter.
Just adding a comment on the Doom Scythe from Necron combat patrol... that's actually a good unit now, with a price cut at 165 points, now being core and having the ONLY weapon that does realiable anti tank damage (aside from the silent king/Lokhust heavy destroyers), it might be an auto include if you're not running a heavy melee list and more of a shooty list
im brand new to getting into warhammer40k saw the necrons and was really interested in that box. and your comment really helped solidify it being a worthy purchase. thanks
@@thisjustanother Dont build the deathmarks. Get your 10 immortals. Make them 2 squads of 5. You are all set on immortals. You don't need more than that. :D
Great video, and thank you for always reminding us to keep in mind what we WANT to play with vs the hard numbers of cost comparison. I often forget that part, and so I am always glad when you say it. XD So glad you also made that note on those demons with the alternate arm attachment. Good to know that is where $60 of the 'value' comes from. And dang, so many of those a player ends up with partial units, what a pain. The Nurgle 7 is cute, but a pain. And the sisters of battle being so chopped up is such a pro con thing. Cool to get 6 types of units, but not having full squads...gah. Great video, and ty!
I started playing this month and bought 2 combat patrols from amazon at 127$ (necrons) They look amazing, and i got a whole bunch of good units! The immortals are essential to the necron army, and the tomb blades are actually really shooty. The doom scythe can do some real damage, but you're right for the points you're better off with something else, i'd like to have cryptothralls and flayed ones instead for sure
I’ve actually done some prep work ahead of getting the sisters patrol. I snagged about 8 Repentia and 8 arco flagellants off Ebay, so when I *do* get the patrol box, the small squads in there will bring it all up to full squads. The other trick I’ve heard is to buy a spare box of Seraphim, and build that kit with 2 flamer sisters and 2 inferno pistol sisters, and then mix the squads so you have two fully-loaded options.
I got the Deathwatch box and added to the marines from the leviathan box to start my Salamanders. Then added another box of aggressors and a 10 man heavy intercessors. So would recommend the Deathwatch box for a starting salamander player. Two decent leaders, intercessors for sticky objectives and flame aggressors. You can even do what eon recommends and throw in the Deathwatch shoulder pads randomly into the army to make use of the sprue.
Eon's I've been dying to get into the hobby forever. Eternally reading lore and looking at minis. Your channel might be what finally gets me going! Also as a father now thanks for collecting leaks/reveals, I can't prowl the forums like I used to.
Just also take the advice at the end of the video, you can always start with a basic troop box to see if you like it, if you do, great! If you don't, well at least you aren't in the hole for it, and you can always throw them together as a kill team so there's a use for it
Someone may have said this, but the Drukhari one was one that I saw people buying multiple of because they were great for getting to start a dark elder army and have a decent list.
The nice thing about the DG combat patrol is that the 3x Poxwalker sprues each come with a partial plague marine, so it's pretty easy to actually get 10 out of the box.
I started a black Templar army and already put some serious money done. Slowly painting them and cannot wait to get on the crusade. I got the box sets because I wanted certain units and sometimes the price basically paid for it’s self. I was worried about whether I could convert different faction of space marines with others. With upgrade kits, it’s very possible. Thanks for this
Best advice is right at the end. Buy one squad and build them and paint them. If you can’t do that then you’ll have wasted less money. On the other hand if you do end up loving it having one extra squad will really help you flesh out an army if you buy one of the combat patrol boxes. I’m currently working on three armies (Firstborn Ultramarines, Cadians and Orks) so I can play with friends and give them a choice of who to play as. Each army is going to have just over 600 points in order to play with a slightly larger army or to play a limited 500 point game but still have a little bit of options when you pick which 500 points to use out of what’s available. The Assault on Black Reach box is what got it started.
Necrons are in weird spot since many units were spread across the Indomitus Box. This Combat Patrol definitely feels more like "Add to your starter edition Necrons" than just "Start your Necron Army here" I like the sampling of different units and the inclusion of the far superior Overlord model.
I think my main issue with these boxes is that they don't feel like an intro into the 40k world. The Start Collecting boxes were under $100 and you usually got something big, an HQ and then a squad of something. Really let you get the feel of different units to let you decided what you wanted to get into and how units interacted. These Combat Patrol boxes really weigh you down in certain units that might always make sense (like Tzangoors or Termagaunts) and are pricey to boot.
The Thousand Sons box really confuses me. Rubric Marines have been something I have been fascinated by for my entire life, they're some of the coolest looking models GW makes and were a big part of what inspired me to get into 40K. I assumed everyone else would feel the same way about them and would want a box with plenty included, but here we are with a combat patrol that's more Thousand than Son. The Start Collecting version was fantastic and I really wanted to get one, but I decided to get the Sororitas CP instead not knowing the SC kits were about to disappear.
13:00 The sister Box is realy special, the biggest Problem (what gw don´t tell) u get exact the Models in that Picture from the Box no bits more and can only Build them as same on the Picture (no Zephyrim or 10 Bolter Girls.. excat 10 Girls with 1 Flamer/banner and only Seraphim). So i would put the Value down not even the half since in normal box of 10 Sisters u get more Variation what to build.
A big reason for what’s included in the Necron box is because of Indomitus and the various starter sets. The boxes don’t repeat units and build off eachother. Same with the Battleforce box.
Thought this was a great video. Maybe I missed it but I think it would have been interesting to cover how some of the boxes have unique units. Like the space marine box is the only place you can get Suppressors. Keep up the great work as always, cheers
Multi melta is probably the best gun for dread/hellbrutes right now. The 24" range is fine with their movement, and the +2 dmg under 12" is great for turn 2/3 when they are making a charge against a tougher target, especially in a meta where you'll see nights at most tournaments.
Yeah that comment kind of made no sense to me - my helbrute (not a vengeance one) is multi melta equipped because my Thousand Sons don’t have a ton of anti armor firepower outside of magic or vehicles with melta or similar type weapons onboard
@@timunderbakke8756 I run 2x with mm's in my black legion and at least one with my grey knights; They add more firepower that hurts the targets you want dreadnaughts engaging.
I’ve watched hours of videos on which army to pick and the best advice I think so far is that you can pick any astartes combat patrol and just paint them into the army you want
The end take is my favorite. I started painting after a many year break from the hobby, I bought the Black Templar army box and after finishing one squad I've decided I'm going to finish this box then likely go back and build and paint something different. I like it but I don't have a strong desire to paint 100 Black Templar right now. I've always bought and built a box at a time though.
To buy 5 scarab occult terminators, infernal master and 10 rubrics separately costs only 158$. Meaning that for 8 more dollars you can get a better army. If you get Ahriman instead of the infernal master the price is 162$.
I'm incredibly tempted to start painting miniatures but I don't play Warhammer. I don't play any tabletop games, but in regards to a painting project, the level of detail of everything here is far cooler than pretty much anything else you can do. I feel like I'd be a poser if I started to build a shelf of painted mini's for a game I don't play and have about 1% knowledge of.
You don't need to play. It is a hobby with multiple facets, you choose what to pursue, be it reading lore, gaming or painting. It is your time and your journey in this fictional universe, so it is your decision on what to do with it. Pro Tip: don't go headfirst into a part of the hobby, start slowly and then decide for yourself if you like painting, reading or playing more (or if you enjoy none at all). Burning away money is never a good thing
@@eneaceribelli8023 I typically sculpt and cast my own pieces, making molds and casting resin. The prospect of objects premade and ready to paint is what interests me the most. The lore seems sick and the designs look very fun to work with.
Technically you get 9 units in the sisters box (if you count the two characters as units). Also rare for boxes to have two characters. Personally I wish the penitent engine was swapped for a mortifier (or had the parts to make either). But other then that it’s a great box interns of content.
the GSC Combat Patrol box is also awesome for Necromunda players for kitbashing. Especially now that their vehicles are the generic vehicles for all gangs.
This was very helpful for me since I’ve just started the construction of my necron army and was actually just yesterday thinking if the combat patrol was worth it. Thank you!!!
I like the content of the combat patrol boxes because it does allow someone to pick up a... Playable army of just about every faction. The fact that you're still saving money even on the low end is a nice bonus compared to buying the units individually. I think I'd probably get the grey knight patrol box and just stop collecting them after that point just because my friend and I get into battles for a more narrative aspect and I love the idea of doing a game similar to the Dawn of War campaign where there is just a small anti-demon detachment added to my space Marines force.
I bought the Ork one when I first started playing them to get my army started. Overall I personally feel at least the Ork combat patrol was worth it. I'm still fairly new to 40k, but I still use every model I got in the box in my current army, and how the combat patrol was built has largely helped me figure out how my army runs.
At the time I purchased the Dark Angels box (2) you could not get Redemptors, just wasn’t available separately. I just recently decided to play Black Templars and Iron Hands, so I’m just going to paint the Intercessors black to use for both, and the librarian for the Iron hands. I made one group of inceptors plasma, and one with assault bolters.
When I started collecting Tau last year, it was recommended that I get two start collecting boxes. I wish I listened! That box was a steal for those Crisis suits! I already have everything in the new combat patrol except the Ghostkeel and I… really don’t think I want more of everything else in the box.
Talking to 'Da Boss' at my local Warhammer Store - These 'combat patrols' don't actually go strictly by 'points value', they go by the alternative 'force points' system - The idea being that if you have nothing BUT these boxed sets, you can have a "legal" force-rating army that is roughly equivilent in strength to what is found in any of the other 'combat patrol' boxes.
When I started my Ultra Marine army I bought the Dark Angels and Blood Angels Combat Patrols. When I started my Drukhari army I bought two combat patrols. I think if you are starting out many of the combat patrols are great for buying two while others not so much. But what I recommend is to buy or borrow the codex first and see what models are going to be useful. I want the Tantulus too. I want to find a model I can make into Asdrubel Vect and make it his flag ship. But that is purely a vanity project.
This was a great idea. Now i gotta look for box vs. box battle reports for a power comparison between them all. We must find out who will reign supreme.
The nice thing about the Necrons Combat Patrol is that it's made up entirely of units that are NOT part of the Indomitus set, or the current two-player starter sets which pit Necrons vs. Space Marines. The Doom Scythe is a bit of a let down, because it's an expensive unit with limited utility in the current meta--a Doomstalker would have been much more useful, but *two* Doomstalkers were included in the Battleforce Box last season. So Gee Dub gets a few points for making sure that the Necron Combat Patrol complements, rather than duplicates, models easily and (relatively) inexpensively acquired in other sets.
As somebody who's been watching youtube content (oh yikes, for 'decades' now) This was really entertaining to watch, you should consider doing more box overviews that have all of the races like this with your own side commentary. Maybe one overviewing best value basic units?
I doubled up on Age of Darkness box for 30k. Buying from 3rd party gets you 20% off a box GW will likely never make again cause of the body count, you could take a bit more off the price by selling the rules book inside. Making it a great utility box with ample bodies that is a solid brick for CSM/SM armies. I personally got it for the terminators mostly. Theme them the right way will pretty much allow you to put them into any force. Beakies are the same size as 40k CSM. For me it came down to What would I spend the Combat patrol money on. With the 20% discount from 3rd parties, that box went from 225 to 180 euro, GW price for CP is 120 euro. for 60 euro extra I got more than double the models in a CP sm/csm box.
@Max LaChance Good on ya. That's the way I saw it too. AOD is just a bigger better battleforce box that you can throw your SW extra bits onto. With so many chainswords I can now dump them onto the beakies and make them berserkers/raptors.
Back in 3rd Ed. Grey Knights had the option of taking Inquisitorial Storm Troopers. I feel if they threw in a squad of 10 of em it'd help the price balance out, give the GK something more plausible to field at 500 pts and give them more options and more models which is sorely needed IMO.
Just came across this video. I'm starting Warhammer fresh. I got into the space wolves from the aesthetic look. Would I be able to run space wolves with the death Angels?
A big, BIG caveat with the Phobos Patrol is the fact that their sprues are the monopose versions without any build options. The Eliminators don't have Las Fusils, the Infiltrators don't have Incursor access.
Just a warning: the Tantalus is a nightmare to put together, and you're going to need to figure something out on your own for the base. They include the standard hover stand that comes with raiders and venoms, which is honestly laughable (and physically impossible for the job).
You can often makes some conversions from the boxes too and try to squeeze out some extra points. Ex: In my druhkari box i didnt make the pilots for the ships and rather made 4 more Warrior Models. Nothing major, but now I can swap out my weapons a bit.
Rubric marines also have 9 rubrics (+ sorcerer) in the box because 9 is number of tzeentch. I wonder if there will be 8 khorne berserkers and 6 noise marines in their new boxes?
A follow up will be needed before long as there's probably going to be at least 3 boxes coming soon, world eaters, leagues of votann and imperial guard. Possibly there may be a daemons one, but that may well be 4 AoS vanguard boxes instead
£90 where I am, just a £5-9 hike innit. Edit: I'm glad I didn't get the Grey Knights one and instead scratch built my own. You can get a LOT of minis for less just by getting the Strike Squads, since they also have the option of being Interceptors, Purgators or Purifiers. Hell, one of them can even be a Champion.
Oh man, thinking about the high point value of Custodes, I'm reminded of the time in Kill Team where my Tau unloaded a ton of overwatch with rail rifles and still couldn't prevent them from charging. It was a massacre.
I know the older Daemons Start Collecting boxes were in the category of "Saves you a couple bucks if you need more Heralds, otherwise just get the units seperately", though I actually bought a Slaanesh start collecting box purely for the chariot building instructions, honestly you can never have enough chariot building instructions for those Slaaneshi chariots, good lord they suck to build.
A good part to the ba box as well is options, you can build the incursors as infiltrators and the aggressors are the full kit so can build either boltstorm or flamer. This means you can use the 5 intercessor bodies to build whatever phobos unit you didn't build. And on the part about "nothing magical about an impulsor in a ba army" Thats not technically true, ba can spend a cp on a strat called Lucifer-Pattern Engines which increases the movement of the vehicle (basically marine NOS) so ba can get their impulsor filled with bladeguard or assault intercessors etc even faster up the board
I think the idea of “but whichever Marines box that comes with what I like.” Is fine, but the chapter specific boxes come with the sculpted on chapter logo shoulders
As a guy that is sniffing around the W40K hobby for a very very long time but never got into it, I have to ask: - Why is there a Space Marine tax? - Why does GW charge so insanely much, especially when you compare to 10 or 20 years ago when GW models were at least almost affordable? (No, it's not the material cost. And no it's not the modelling cost nor the mold cost because they sell thousands of copies of each miniature.) - Why do people pay those insane prices? You have to assemble the stuff yourself, damn it, that saves a lot of production cost. Sure, the discounted boxes are fine, or at least some of them. I also liked the "Start Collecting" boxes, did they really drop those now? Sad.
I recently got some Sprues with weapon options for my Sororitas from my best friend with purity seals and extra heads (Need to practice painting heads) in exchange he got some sprues for extra vehicle options. So yeah swap not needed sprues with friends and everyone is happy
currently saving for chaos space marine box for my World Eaters and hopefully getting World Eaters combat patrol box (this is a wild guess) when they get their own codex.
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A quick summery for those who want it.
Tyranids: $225 value, $75 savings
Tau: $240.50 value, $90.50 savings
Necrons: $236 value, $82 savings
Aeldari: $257 value, $107 savings
Drukhari: $245 value, $95 savings
Orks: $234 value, $84 savings
Genestealers: $276 value, $126 savings
Chaos Space Marines: $218 value, $68 savings
Death Guard: $232 value, $82 savings
Thousand Sons: $258 value, $108 savings ($48 savings ignoring Tzangors)
Ad Mech: $230 value, $80 savings
Sisters of Battle: $254 value, $104 savings
Custodes: $230 value, $80 savings
Grey Knights: $187.50 value, $37.50 savings
Black Templars: $240 value, $90 savings
Blood Angels: $263 value, $113 savings
Space Wolves: $220 value, $70 savings
Deathwatch: $218 value, $69 savings
Dark Angels: $223 value, $73 savings
Space Marines (Phobos): $290 value, $140 savings
Thanks for all the content, Jay!
*spoilers*
A quicker summary for those who want it.
Tyranids: $too damned much
Tau: $too damned much
Necrons: $too damned much
Aeldari: $too damned much
Drukhari: $too damned much
Orks: $too damned much
Genestealers: $too damned much
Chaos Space Marines: $too damned much
Death Guard: $too damned much
Thousand Sons: $too damned much
Ad Mech: $too damned much
Sisters of Battle:$too damned much
Custodes: $too damned much
Grey Knights: $too damned much
Black Templars: $too damned much
Blood Angels: $too damned much
Space Wolves: $too damned much
Deathwatch: $too damned much
Dark Angels: $too damned much
Space Marines (Phobos): $too damned much
This isn't true, isn't saving for the god sake. It's just pay twice the market cost of mediocre miniature. Loooool.
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@@imyourlol is math a foreign concept to you?
I feel that during evaluation of these "value boxes" you always have to take into account whether or not you really WANT and NEED them for your army. A discount means nothing when you spend more money for things that you eventually will realize that you don't need / don't want for your army. This is why I always take these GW boxed sets with a grain of salt - value is there only when you'll use every single model included (or take your time selling models that you don't want on ebay).
Yes - I’ve always done value calculations like this based on “do I want it? Ok add it’s price to the running total”. I don’t see the “massive savings” sometimes, but if the discount box is cheaper than the cost of the things I want anyway, I’m sometimes tempted to do it even if I don’t care about every model in the box because hey it was still cheaper than just the parts I wanted.
For example, I’m super tempted to buy a second Templar “army starter” box because they’re only $100 on Amazon now at clearance. The redemptor + crusader squad alone is worth that easy, and I’m probably saving about $10 to get the army box…. And then I can also get another marshal HQ to build the opposite weapon loadout I didn’t take the first time for free on top of it. I could donate the book/cards/champion I can’t use, and still be money ahead.
Maybe if the savings gets to be more than $10….
A very valid point - a box may have significant 'savings', but it's 'value' is based entirely on what you can get out of it, versus which elements of the contents are completely useless to you
These boxes are not about building a army along the lines of "Do I want this unit or not?" or even "This is/isn't a competitive force!" They are about giving people a bunch of miniatures to build, maybe paint too, and put on the table top and play a game or too with. Once you've got past that stage and want to continue to play you cab cherry pick the units you wise to buy and use.
For the rest of us we can buy these boxes, for a cheaper way to bulk out an army and maybe sell on what you don't want.
What do you mean, you don't want 30 space zombies and special character? What about Tzaangors? They are iconic TSons Troops
@@banhammer7243 Fair enough, but I think it depends on the army. Tyranids, GSC, Tau, Deldar and CSM are pretty much what I'd want from a box to start off an army. But Thousand Sons and Death Guard that are mostly Birdmen and Zombies? And I think it's also bit of a thematic problem, especially with those two. You want to play Space Egyptian wizards and their automatons? Have some birds! You want to follow the plague god and spread his gifts with an unstoppable force of mutated marines? Nah, it'S zombie time!
Fun fact about the death guard cp box, you actually get 10 plague marines since there are half a marine in each poxwalker sprue (legs+ half a torso, backpack and left arm). With a bit of knife work and green stuff you will be able to build 3 extra marines using your leftover bits from the plague marine sprues:)
thats wath i did
welp, i know what im getting.
8:35 "No one ever takes the multi-melta on the helbrute' he says, as I slowly glance up at my Thousand Sons Helbrute with Multi-Melta and power scourge.
Same but I magnetised it because it does suck tbh. I prefer the plasma or twin-lascannon
My first chaos game I won because I multi-melta'd a Necron Stalker.
Definitely can't forget that one, but I think twin-las is more my speed.
The multi melta hammer will always be nice. Such an effective combo
im sorry for your loss
Taking the time to put this together for newer people coming into the hobby was legit. Nice job and also explaining some of the options with the marines.
If you're trying to build a competitive list, then the discounts really only matter if the boxes contain the models you need. If you're simply playing narratively and dramatically for fun; then the discounts and model count matter far more.
Plus one can consider the fact these are generally considered to be a starting point for collecting an army (they did succeed the "start collecting" boxes after all). For someone who's looking to get their feet wet in the hobby for the first time, not only is this a modest and varied collection for a given faction, but it's instant playable: there's a battle-forged ~27PL patrol detachment right there ready to go. Having those decisions made for you until you learn enough of the game to know what else you want to add to an army is great for newcomers.
Here in Vietnam it’s the only way to go. The genestealer cults box is everything I could ever want for necromunda/ killteam
What’re the GW prices like over there? US prices don’t have the greatest conversion rate compared to pounds and euros, but they’re still better than a lot of other countries.
There aren’t many shops. When I first arrived the most prominent shop (basically a Gw style run establishment) would charge roughly $10-10% more in America dollars, depending on the size or popularity of a product. I believe they have a club style program that lets you get your purchases at general retail with a membership.
After searching online I was able to find a smaller shop that gets you a typical 10% discount like one might receive in North America. Their stock is much lower, and typically you have to wait to have it shipped. But compared to the other shop that will not order anything in for you unless pay for 50% up front( I live in another city and they only do money transfers through their personal bank), customer service is far superior, and the cash on delivery system makes it easier for me as a foreigner.
Kinda wild to think that there's people in Vietnam playing Warhammer 40,000. Is it popular where you are?
@@Fuzmonster59 outside of the two major cities not really. Definitely a niche/elitist hobby for the locals.
@@Fuzmonster59 I mainly enjoy the painting side of the hobby but occasionally play with friends or students that are interested. In the area I’m in it certainly isn’t popular, locals think I’m insane when they find out how much it actually costs.
Disregarding the actual contents of the video, I really liked that you flipped the standard faction order on its head and put space marines last for once.
I adore the sisters of battle.
To see such a neglected fan favorite suddenly reach a level of quality even the company favorites should be jealous of is incredible.
I'm still working on my Tau army and Necron and Tyranid kill teams, but I really want to get into Sisters soon.
Its a very cool box because of the unit variety, discount, but also : unique poses and a unique Canoness you can't buy anywhere else.
Combat Patrol Gray Knights should get the "Custodes" treatment and simply get 5 more strike squad marines.
To be fair though everything in the GK box is very usable, whereas some of the other boxes have some very questionable units. Having a large saving on units you'll almost never use is not really a saving at all, therefore I think the GK box is actually quite a solid deal.
I work in a large discount retailer for GW and I see the GK box routinely run out of stock, so I would think it's still popular even if it doesn't have as much value as other boxes
@@mintyaroma987 i think because grey knights is a elite army, not a lot of diferent units to choose so you have what you have
@@joshuazapata2234 Yep, as a GK player all you need is pretty much in the box, most of us buy like 2-3 of these + draigo and 1-2 interceptor box and you have a solid 1500-2000 pts, so at the end of the day your army cost a lot less in $ .
Yep, I find it silly to limit the box content just because of the points. That just doesn't work well for some factions.
Well, it is still beter than the TS box with 20 Zangors.
As a note for the GK box - you can probably get the points total closer to 800-1000 if you run the DK as a GMDK and the terminators as paladins
As a Raven Guard player, I absolutely love the space marine combat patrol. It's load of stealth type space marines are perfect for someone like me who likes to build his army to the fluff more than tabletop effectiveness and then wonder why he keeps losing. Might pick up the bood angel box too and paint em black
In Europe you can easily find the combat patrol's under 100 euro sometimes even under 90 depending on how popular they are so seems they are a way better deal here
US prices for any GW items suck compared to that side of the pond, but still not as bad as in Australia. Its not right, and their 'excuses' for it are absurd.
Australian here $210
I know, in the UK these boxes are £90, so the americans are paying about $25 more than they would here.
@@TheDigitalThreat thing is American earnings can mean that a luxury hobby item gets priced differently on their market. Don't think that the same really applies for AU though.
The 'luxury' hobby is a joke. Every "hobby" is a luxury... Besides, how is something a luxury for some locations and not others? Its just a word 'taxed' into the conversation to add some mysterious value yet offers little to no reasoning or excuse for something as "import/export" adjustments, which for little plastic molds is still higher than nearly every other single other 'luxury' item sold in the free world.
One thing about the sisters, they are monopose, but their are quite a few unique poses in that set you cant get anywhere else. The sister superior, repentia superior, canoness, simulacrum, storm bolter, and flamer sisters are all unique sculpts that add variety into a larger sisters army.
Mind you the Grey Knights Combat Patrol box is now the only way to get that Librarian in Terminator armor
Depending on your needs, sometimes you can find value in buying a box that includes some stuff you need (pref multiple models). Say you want/need an Impulsor and a squad of incursers/infiltrators, rather than spending the 50 (ebay) or 80 (GW) on the impulsor and another $40-60 on a 10 man Infiltrator kit, you could buy the blood angels box, take out those units and turn around and sell the librarian for $20, The Intercessors for $15, and the Agressors for around $30, and say another 10-20 for the upgrades and transfers all on ebay. Takes more work but you can really squeeze out the savings by doing this type of back and forth. For the most part you will make your money back on the models you didnt keep and earn back enough to save yourself in the overall cost of the models you did keep, by you basically taking advantage of the Set value. I've noticed as long as you price things fairly just about any 'on sprue' kits will sell as there is always someone somewhere looking for specific units/kits and dont give a shit about sealed boxes.
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I love how no BS these videos are. It’s really a “this is the price and the savings” and then a few comments. Really great content, keep it up!!
I will say, the Tzaangor upgrade sprues are excellent for conversion bits for Tzeentch cultists
One big difference between the generic Space Marine box and the chapter specific ones and that the SM box is all monopose. No las fusil option for the Eliminators, Suppressors all monopose. Infiltrators cannot be built as Incursors.
Coming back to 40k after like 8 years, are the old sm tactical marines gone? Like the Eliminators and Infiltrators are those just like more specialized than tactical marines?
@@Y0kemeister They aren't gone. You can still get a box of tactical marines. You can still get Devastators etc. It's just expanded the range.
The boxes are also good when you know you can sell the models you don’t like. For example, I’d like eliminstors and an impulsor. I’d sell the other models and I’d get 95€ worth of models for about 40€ after selling the excess.
Would you consider doing a video like this for Age of Sigmar’s Vanguard Boxes???
Lol age of sigmar
I'd love that. Currently I've gotten 3 of my D&D group into AoS and I'm working on the 4th. I've been collecting the minis for D&D anyway so they're using my models to play, but it'd be good to have a box to recommend.
I'd watch.
He should wait about a year before doing so, AoS is still 50/50 between vanguard and start collecting boxes.
@@captainweekend5276 that's a good point
There is one thing to add, the Death Guard box comes with 3 additional torsos and legs, so it is basically 10 marines you can make.
That might actually get me over the line to pick it up...7 death guard marines in a death guard box was a little light fir me
@@ono1381 you need a bit of work to make it all fit and work, maybe some green stuff too
My two favorite combat patrols are Genestealer Cult and Aeldari. I don’t have either force, but they look great. I’d honestly be tempted by either if I thought I had the storage space and budget, but that would be Army #3 and …. Oof.
Thousand Sons combat patrol made me incredibly sad. It only has 3 units (there’s a codex rule that tzangor units must be taken at maximum rate of 1:1 rubric + scarab to tzangor), so you have to run them as a blob of 20 out of the box to be legal.
EoB I am so glad I found your channel yesterday. You naturally have an eye for such good content. You have such an entertaining and inviting presence that every one I have seen genuinely grips the viewers attention and doesn't let go. You knowledge of Warhammer is evident and we are lucky you have dedicated your time to sharing that wisdom with us. The Warhammer community and miniature hobbyists are lucky to have you. Thank you for everything and have a great summer! (no homo)
Agreed this is my favorite channel. This and uncle Adam
When I started my Space Marine Dark angels army, I went with a DA Combat Patrol, and a Blood Angel CP box, and then finished it off with the Deathwatch CP box to give myself a 2000 point army in addition to the Space Marines that came in the Command edition.
Three things with the Death Guard box as someone who bought and loved it.
1. There is also a Biologius Putrifer the guy who buffs grenades and melee.
2. The box is not fieldable as a battleforged army as Poxwalkers are a 20 sized unit and you can’t have more poxwalkers than Bubonic Astartes, so you need either more marines, some termis, a opponent willing to ignore that rule or just leave 10 out.
3. The box comes with 3 spare plague marine backs so with a bit of kitbashing you can get 3 extra.
Hope that helps and Blessings of the Grandfather be with you😁
FYI, the reason the Helbrute from the Dark Vengeance box A. looks better and B. only has one loadout, is because it's a named character called Mortis Metalikus. Fun fact, Mortis' original name was Sevarion Kranon, and was a birth-brother of Sevastus Kranon, the chapter master of the Crimson Slaughter. Sevastus imprisoned him in a Helbrute for being disobedient when Khorne first corrupted the Crimson Sabres into the Crimson Slaughter.
That's what we lore nerds call a 'dick move'.
Just adding a comment on the Doom Scythe from Necron combat patrol... that's actually a good unit now, with a price cut at 165 points, now being core and having the ONLY weapon that does realiable anti tank damage (aside from the silent king/Lokhust heavy destroyers), it might be an auto include if you're not running a heavy melee list and more of a shooty list
im brand new to getting into warhammer40k saw the necrons and was really interested in that box. and your comment really helped solidify it being a worthy purchase. thanks
@@thisjustanother Dont build the deathmarks. Get your 10 immortals. Make them 2 squads of 5. You are all set on immortals. You don't need more than that. :D
Great video, and thank you for always reminding us to keep in mind what we WANT to play with vs the hard numbers of cost comparison. I often forget that part, and so I am always glad when you say it. XD
So glad you also made that note on those demons with the alternate arm attachment. Good to know that is where $60 of the 'value' comes from.
And dang, so many of those a player ends up with partial units, what a pain. The Nurgle 7 is cute, but a pain. And the sisters of battle being so chopped up is such a pro con thing. Cool to get 6 types of units, but not having full squads...gah.
Great video, and ty!
I started playing this month and bought 2 combat patrols from amazon at 127$ (necrons) They look amazing, and i got a whole bunch of good units! The immortals are essential to the necron army, and the tomb blades are actually really shooty. The doom scythe can do some real damage, but you're right for the points you're better off with something else, i'd like to have cryptothralls and flayed ones instead for sure
Thanks for this, cemented my choice for the battle sisters.
I’ve actually done some prep work ahead of getting the sisters patrol. I snagged about 8 Repentia and 8 arco flagellants off Ebay, so when I *do* get the patrol box, the small squads in there will bring it all up to full squads.
The other trick I’ve heard is to buy a spare box of Seraphim, and build that kit with 2 flamer sisters and 2 inferno pistol sisters, and then mix the squads so you have two fully-loaded options.
I got the Deathwatch box and added to the marines from the leviathan box to start my Salamanders. Then added another box of aggressors and a 10 man heavy intercessors. So would recommend the Deathwatch box for a starting salamander player. Two decent leaders, intercessors for sticky objectives and flame aggressors. You can even do what eon recommends and throw in the Deathwatch shoulder pads randomly into the army to make use of the sprue.
You give really solid advice there at the end, like everyone should examine their goals for a project before they buy any models or tools or whatever.
Eon's I've been dying to get into the hobby forever. Eternally reading lore and looking at minis. Your channel might be what finally gets me going! Also as a father now thanks for collecting leaks/reveals, I can't prowl the forums like I used to.
Just got to jump in and make the plunge. You can do it!
Do as much as you can afford to and enjoy the ride!
Just also take the advice at the end of the video, you can always start with a basic troop box to see if you like it, if you do, great! If you don't, well at least you aren't in the hole for it, and you can always throw them together as a kill team so there's a use for it
Someone may have said this, but the Drukhari one was one that I saw people buying multiple of because they were great for getting to start a dark elder army and have a decent list.
This prices you start eyeing resin printers that are going for 180 a pop and with one resin bottle can print all this minis
The nice thing about the DG combat patrol is that the 3x Poxwalker sprues each come with a partial plague marine, so it's pretty easy to actually get 10 out of the box.
The bad thing with it, is the box can't make a legal combat patrol which is far worse
I started a black Templar army and already put some serious money done. Slowly painting them and cannot wait to get on the crusade.
I got the box sets because I wanted certain units and sometimes the price basically paid for it’s self. I was worried about whether I could convert different faction of space marines with others. With upgrade kits, it’s very possible. Thanks for this
Best advice is right at the end. Buy one squad and build them and paint them. If you can’t do that then you’ll have wasted less money. On the other hand if you do end up loving it having one extra squad will really help you flesh out an army if you buy one of the combat patrol boxes. I’m currently working on three armies (Firstborn Ultramarines, Cadians and Orks) so I can play with friends and give them a choice of who to play as. Each army is going to have just over 600 points in order to play with a slightly larger army or to play a limited 500 point game but still have a little bit of options when you pick which 500 points to use out of what’s available. The Assault on Black Reach box is what got it started.
Necrons are in weird spot since many units were spread across the Indomitus Box. This Combat Patrol definitely feels more like "Add to your starter edition Necrons" than just "Start your Necron Army here" I like the sampling of different units and the inclusion of the far superior Overlord model.
I think my main issue with these boxes is that they don't feel like an intro into the 40k world. The Start Collecting boxes were under $100 and you usually got something big, an HQ and then a squad of something. Really let you get the feel of different units to let you decided what you wanted to get into and how units interacted. These Combat Patrol boxes really weigh you down in certain units that might always make sense (like Tzangoors or Termagaunts) and are pricey to boot.
The Thousand Sons box really confuses me. Rubric Marines have been something I have been fascinated by for my entire life, they're some of the coolest looking models GW makes and were a big part of what inspired me to get into 40K. I assumed everyone else would feel the same way about them and would want a box with plenty included, but here we are with a combat patrol that's more Thousand than Son. The Start Collecting version was fantastic and I really wanted to get one, but I decided to get the Sororitas CP instead not knowing the SC kits were about to disappear.
Thank you for breaking down things into Space Marines for us, it’s always relatable 😊
13:00 The sister Box is realy special, the biggest Problem (what gw don´t tell) u get exact the Models in that Picture from the Box no bits more and can only Build them as same on the Picture (no Zephyrim or 10 Bolter Girls.. excat 10 Girls with 1 Flamer/banner and only Seraphim). So i would put the Value down not even the half since in normal box of 10 Sisters u get more Variation what to build.
A big reason for what’s included in the Necron box is because of Indomitus and the various starter sets. The boxes don’t repeat units and build off eachother. Same with the Battleforce box.
Thought this was a great video. Maybe I missed it but I think it would have been interesting to cover how some of the boxes have unique units. Like the space marine box is the only place you can get Suppressors. Keep up the great work as always, cheers
Great video
Still flirting with getting fully into 40k again and this gives a lot of insight. Nice one Jay
Multi melta is probably the best gun for dread/hellbrutes right now. The 24" range is fine with their movement, and the +2 dmg under 12" is great for turn 2/3 when they are making a charge against a tougher target, especially in a meta where you'll see nights at most tournaments.
Yeah that comment kind of made no sense to me - my helbrute (not a vengeance one) is multi melta equipped because my Thousand Sons don’t have a ton of anti armor firepower outside of magic or vehicles with melta or similar type weapons onboard
@@timunderbakke8756 I run 2x with mm's in my black legion and at least one with my grey knights; They add more firepower that hurts the targets you want dreadnaughts engaging.
"Choose an army that you enjoy painting",madness.... cries in Lamenter.
I’ve watched hours of videos on which army to pick and the best advice I think so far is that you can pick any astartes combat patrol and just paint them into the army you want
Your videos ooze quality and have such a range within this hobby. Glad I found you as a returning enthusiast :)
The end take is my favorite. I started painting after a many year break from the hobby, I bought the Black Templar army box and after finishing one squad I've decided I'm going to finish this box then likely go back and build and paint something different. I like it but I don't have a strong desire to paint 100 Black Templar right now. I've always bought and built a box at a time though.
So sad that the thousand sons used to have one of the best start collecting and it got replaced with that mess
Yeah- I took one glance at this box and said “nope”.
To buy 5 scarab occult terminators, infernal master and 10 rubrics separately costs only 158$. Meaning that for 8 more dollars you can get a better army. If you get Ahriman instead of the infernal master the price is 162$.
I'm incredibly tempted to start painting miniatures but I don't play Warhammer. I don't play any tabletop games, but in regards to a painting project, the level of detail of everything here is far cooler than pretty much anything else you can do. I feel like I'd be a poser if I started to build a shelf of painted mini's for a game I don't play and have about 1% knowledge of.
You don't need to play.
It is a hobby with multiple facets, you choose what to pursue, be it reading lore, gaming or painting.
It is your time and your journey in this fictional universe, so it is your decision on what to do with it.
Pro Tip: don't go headfirst into a part of the hobby, start slowly and then decide for yourself if you like painting, reading or playing more (or if you enjoy none at all). Burning away money is never a good thing
@@eneaceribelli8023 I typically sculpt and cast my own pieces, making molds and casting resin. The prospect of objects premade and ready to paint is what interests me the most. The lore seems sick and the designs look very fun to work with.
@@nerdchattershow then go to town my friend, just start easy
Technically you get 9 units in the sisters box (if you count the two characters as units). Also rare for boxes to have two characters. Personally I wish the penitent engine was swapped for a mortifier (or had the parts to make either). But other then that it’s a great box interns of content.
the GSC Combat Patrol box is also awesome for Necromunda players for kitbashing. Especially now that their vehicles are the generic vehicles for all gangs.
Both the Ork and Sisters boxes are worth having multiple of, especially if you can get them for a discount.
This was very helpful for me since I’ve just started the construction of my necron army and was actually just yesterday thinking if the combat patrol was worth it. Thank you!!!
Make sure you build 10 immortals. Deathmarks are trash, unfortunately.
I like the content of the combat patrol boxes because it does allow someone to pick up a... Playable army of just about every faction. The fact that you're still saving money even on the low end is a nice bonus compared to buying the units individually.
I think I'd probably get the grey knight patrol box and just stop collecting them after that point just because my friend and I get into battles for a more narrative aspect and I love the idea of doing a game similar to the Dawn of War campaign where there is just a small anti-demon detachment added to my space Marines force.
great vid! I was wondering about how cost effective these boxes are and I have to say the value is much better than expected.
As someone who needs 3 of the Combat Patrol GSC I'm so glad that the saving on it is so high 😂😂😂 after that it's just 3 boxes of Bikes 😅😅
I bought the Ork one when I first started playing them to get my army started. Overall I personally feel at least the Ork combat patrol was worth it. I'm still fairly new to 40k, but I still use every model I got in the box in my current army, and how the combat patrol was built has largely helped me figure out how my army runs.
Great video. I appreciate these analysis type vids, Thanks!
At the time I purchased the Dark Angels box (2) you could not get Redemptors, just wasn’t available separately. I just recently decided to play Black Templars and Iron Hands, so I’m just going to paint the Intercessors black to use for both, and the librarian for the Iron hands. I made one group of inceptors plasma, and one with assault bolters.
Great video. I'm amazed you always have consistently good content!
When I started collecting Tau last year, it was recommended that I get two start collecting boxes. I wish I listened! That box was a steal for those Crisis suits!
I already have everything in the new combat patrol except the Ghostkeel and I… really don’t think I want more of everything else in the box.
Jay, I love you man but these are not savings, it’s how much they’re ripping you off when you buy them separately
Talking to 'Da Boss' at my local Warhammer Store - These 'combat patrols' don't actually go strictly by 'points value', they go by the alternative 'force points' system - The idea being that if you have nothing BUT these boxed sets, you can have a "legal" force-rating army that is roughly equivilent in strength to what is found in any of the other 'combat patrol' boxes.
When I started my Ultra Marine army I bought the Dark Angels and Blood Angels Combat Patrols. When I started my Drukhari army I bought two combat patrols. I think if you are starting out many of the combat patrols are great for buying two while others not so much. But what I recommend is to buy or borrow the codex first and see what models are going to be useful. I want the Tantulus too. I want to find a model I can make into Asdrubel Vect and make it his flag ship. But that is purely a vanity project.
This was a great idea. Now i gotta look for box vs. box battle reports for a power comparison between them all. We must find out who will reign supreme.
The nice thing about the Necrons Combat Patrol is that it's made up entirely of units that are NOT part of the Indomitus set, or the current two-player starter sets which pit Necrons vs. Space Marines. The Doom Scythe is a bit of a let down, because it's an expensive unit with limited utility in the current meta--a Doomstalker would have been much more useful, but *two* Doomstalkers were included in the Battleforce Box last season. So Gee Dub gets a few points for making sure that the Necron Combat Patrol complements, rather than duplicates, models easily and (relatively) inexpensively acquired in other sets.
Great advice at the end Jay!
The space Marine combat patrol box is the only way to get those suppressors unit without having to go and get it second hand
As somebody who's been watching youtube content (oh yikes, for 'decades' now) This was really entertaining to watch, you should consider doing more box overviews that have all of the races like this with your own side commentary. Maybe one overviewing best value basic units?
I doubled up on Age of Darkness box for 30k. Buying from 3rd party gets you 20% off a box GW will likely never make again cause of the body count, you could take a bit more off the price by selling the rules book inside. Making it a great utility box with ample bodies that is a solid brick for CSM/SM armies. I personally got it for the terminators mostly. Theme them the right way will pretty much allow you to put them into any force. Beakies are the same size as 40k CSM. For me it came down to What would I spend the Combat patrol money on. With the 20% discount from 3rd parties, that box went from 225 to 180 euro, GW price for CP is 120 euro. for 60 euro extra I got more than double the models in a CP sm/csm box.
@Max LaChance I'm eyeing my third box, so... yes?
@Max LaChance Why of course I wanted two Spartans, you mean to tell me....you don't?
@Max LaChance Good on ya. That's the way I saw it too. AOD is just a bigger better battleforce box that you can throw your SW extra bits onto. With so many chainswords I can now dump them onto the beakies and make them berserkers/raptors.
I bought myself my first 40k set which is the tau vanguard set. Excited to build and paint them. Thinking of getting ork set next.
Back in 3rd Ed. Grey Knights had the option of taking Inquisitorial Storm Troopers. I feel if they threw in a squad of 10 of em it'd help the price balance out, give the GK something more plausible to field at 500 pts and give them more options and more models which is sorely needed IMO.
Just came across this video. I'm starting Warhammer fresh. I got into the space wolves from the aesthetic look. Would I be able to run space wolves with the death Angels?
With Death Angels? Like the successor chapter ?
7:06 22 boxes?! Holy crap that’s a damn good deal!
CONGRATS ON 100K!!!!!!!!!!!!
A big, BIG caveat with the Phobos Patrol is the fact that their sprues are the monopose versions without any build options. The Eliminators don't have Las Fusils, the Infiltrators don't have Incursor access.
One thing to consider with the CP Grey Knights box: only way to get that Terminator Librarian model.
Just a warning: the Tantalus is a nightmare to put together, and you're going to need to figure something out on your own for the base. They include the standard hover stand that comes with raiders and venoms, which is honestly laughable (and physically impossible for the job).
I KNOW!!! but I still want it
You can often makes some conversions from the boxes too and try to squeeze out some extra points. Ex: In my druhkari box i didnt make the pilots for the ships and rather made 4 more Warrior Models. Nothing major, but now I can swap out my weapons a bit.
Rubric marines also have 9 rubrics (+ sorcerer) in the box because 9 is number of tzeentch. I wonder if there will be 8 khorne berserkers and 6 noise marines in their new boxes?
There are no rubrics in the box, you get 5 terminators lol
A follow up will be needed before long as there's probably going to be at least 3 boxes coming soon, world eaters, leagues of votann and imperial guard. Possibly there may be a daemons one, but that may well be 4 AoS vanguard boxes instead
£90 where I am, just a £5-9 hike innit.
Edit: I'm glad I didn't get the Grey Knights one and instead scratch built my own. You can get a LOT of minis for less just by getting the Strike Squads, since they also have the option of being Interceptors, Purgators or Purifiers. Hell, one of them can even be a Champion.
You need to not buy from GW lol, zatu have most of them around £65
Oh man, thinking about the high point value of Custodes, I'm reminded of the time in Kill Team where my Tau unloaded a ton of overwatch with rail rifles and still couldn't prevent them from charging. It was a massacre.
I know the older Daemons Start Collecting boxes were in the category of "Saves you a couple bucks if you need more Heralds, otherwise just get the units seperately", though I actually bought a Slaanesh start collecting box purely for the chariot building instructions, honestly you can never have enough chariot building instructions for those Slaaneshi chariots, good lord they suck to build.
Crongrats on 100k btw :)
A good part to the ba box as well is options, you can build the incursors as infiltrators and the aggressors are the full kit so can build either boltstorm or flamer.
This means you can use the 5 intercessor bodies to build whatever phobos unit you didn't build.
And on the part about "nothing magical about an impulsor in a ba army"
Thats not technically true, ba can spend a cp on a strat called Lucifer-Pattern Engines which increases the movement of the vehicle (basically marine NOS) so ba can get their impulsor filled with bladeguard or assault intercessors etc even faster up the board
I think the idea of “but whichever Marines box that comes with what I like.” Is fine, but the chapter specific boxes come with the sculpted on chapter logo shoulders
As a guy that is sniffing around the W40K hobby for a very very long time but never got into it, I have to ask:
- Why is there a Space Marine tax?
- Why does GW charge so insanely much, especially when you compare to 10 or 20 years ago when GW models were at least almost affordable? (No, it's not the material cost. And no it's not the modelling cost nor the mold cost because they sell thousands of copies of each miniature.)
- Why do people pay those insane prices? You have to assemble the stuff yourself, damn it, that saves a lot of production cost.
Sure, the discounted boxes are fine, or at least some of them. I also liked the "Start Collecting" boxes, did they really drop those now? Sad.
Uffda, every time I see a video on GW value or pricing, it just reminds me how crazy the gouging is.
And just like that, 20 years later, I understand the difference between a Rhino and Razorback. Thanks!
As a Deathwatch player I’m honestly more tempted by the Space Wolves box!
I recently got some Sprues with weapon options for my Sororitas from my best friend with purity seals and extra heads (Need to practice painting heads) in exchange he got some sprues for extra vehicle options. So yeah swap not needed sprues with friends and everyone is happy
currently saving for chaos space marine box for my World Eaters and hopefully getting World Eaters combat patrol box (this is a wild guess) when they get their own codex.