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Why You Should Play Kill Team
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- Опубликовано: 23 окт 2023
- Ever wondered if you should play Kill Team? Heard about the new season, and not sure if it's a good time to get into Games Workshop's best(sic) system? Join Brad and Vic as they discuss all the reasons why Warhammer 40k Kill Team is a great game to be playing right now!
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just a week ago my wife said she wanted to get into warhammer, after alot of investigating were getting ready to bite the bullet then we went into our local game shop and this dude was hosting a kill team event, he explained alot of the game to us and was so friendly. Next week we are going to play our first match of kill team and this video helped me confirm its better to learn which armies i like before dropping 300+ dollars on some thousand suns lmao.
Thousand Sons.. great looking but fiddley to build
Only just started KT this year and im about £1k in already 😭
I like to play and collect different playstyles and aesthetics and Kill Team offers that variety without spending an army's worth of money. I also like it because it's easier to gift a friend one box to start playing rather than buying one unit for 40k.
I went to watch a 5v5 warhammer 40k game at my lgs and some of the guys there told me about kill team and since then I've been hooked on it.
My favorite part about kill team is how quickly the back and forth is, I don't have to wait 20 minutes for my opponent to move all his troops and then do everything on their turn while I just sit there and roll dice. Another plus for me is how you just need like 1 box of guys and you're all set.
Loving Brad's new detective stache.
I love me some Killteam. But as a skirmish game, it is needlessly convoluted. The rules need an "Age of Sigmar simplification", like we got for 10th edition Warhammer 40K. Compared to Warcry and other Skirmish games, it's more difficult to learn the basics.
I wish KillTeam was 40k WarCry. KT is more convoluted than it should be.
Keep spreadin' that good word brothers!
I've branched into 10th edition now, but started with Kill Team and it's still my favorite. Awesome for anyone who likes to change up their playstyle often, as every kill team plays very differently. I feel more invested in my Kill Team models too, as the individual models and characters build a history battle after battle. Either with hilarious failures, or epic heroic deeds. Where as if you take them to 10th edition, it's just a squad of dudes, that usually just get shot off the board, or don't feel as impactful in the overall game.
There’s no reason to curse yourself with the suffering of going on to find the little bit of fun in full 40K. Kill team is the better game.
I'm wondering why you said this. It's not the objectively better game, it's just different. That fact that weapons don't even have ranges is enough of a reason for me to like 40k more. Kill team just feels so linear
Less hobby supplies is a good point.
You can even paint your Kill Teams with smaller brushes. 😉
You can rent a smaller apartment because your minis take up less space.
This is the only reason in the list that is basically not true. To start painting, you need to get the required brushes and the full paint pots. The initial costs on hobby supplies are identical. You can't rent a few days of a brush and get 2 ml of paint You are using less of the paint pot and then just not using it. Even with a whole army of 2000 pts 40k, you will not go through those initial pots of paint. It takes a large amount of kill teams to get over the turning point where this costs less than a second 40K army. By that point you already bled your wallet dry on this hobby one way or another. :P
I jumped into 40k 2 years ago, but for over a year time, space and money jas prevented me from keeping up with the shiftng meta and change to 10th.
My buddy, who got me into 40k initially, bought the kill team box with the Kommandos and Kreig Vets in it, so we gave it a shot. I love the game, and am transitioning to it.
Current plan is to pick up a pair of Primaris Crusader Squad boxes to make an Intercession Squad and then hunt bits to make the smaller members into that newly revealed scout squad. Cheers!
Why keep up with the meta? Do you get paid to win? Why not just pay for fun.
First, great video and a lot of good points. What holds me back is that I like dreadnought, terminators, tanks, armigers and so on. Secondly the tokens. ugh, the tokens. they just annoy me / things to keep track of. Not sure if anyone else feels that way but I could do without the move red, shoot blue, and tokens for every model. thankfully the model count is low so that is appealing.
I hope you'll still continue doing the occasional Warcry report, though. They may not do as well as the Kill Team videos, but they'll bring in eyes that are otherwise focused on the fantasy side of GW's products. (And secretly, we all know it's the game better designed for quick beer and pretzels skirmish battles. Kill Team is a crunchy, complex game.)
Agree with all of this!
Keep doing this podcast. As you age, you’re going to sound a lot like Rick and Morty. You’re already 70% there.
I absolutely love Kill Team. It's well supported. It is growing well. The community is great. Over the last year, I have met so many new people and made some great friends. Winning
I'm new to the channel but I love your videos.
I didn't believe the guy at the local hobby store when he told me that kill team was a better option for me. But over time I have come to realize some of the points you mention and it is totally true.
Great video! thank you!
I didn't need much convincing personally but maybe I can get more of my locals in via this and season 3!
Be the change you wish to see, get that local Kill Team scene going even more!
This video made an affirmative case for every skirmish game, though. The points you made for Kill Team are the same for Shatterpoint, MCP, etc. I'd appreciate your insight into how the skirmish games out there are different from each other. For instance: I've played a fair bit of Kill Team and one game of Shatterpoint and I noticed these differences: 1) You win a game of Shatterpoint by pushing the other guy off of objectives, but it never feels like any of your characters are in peril (by design, I think). Characters have so many hit points that they are super-unlikely to be dead by the end of the game. 2) Consequently, there are no victory conditions for doing things to other characters in Shatterpoint like there are in Kill Team. Kill team models can be killed in one - two shots, so design space is available for things like Rob & Ransack or Headhunter. 3) Line of sight is much easier to figure out in Shatterpoint, and there is nothing counterintuitive like non-reciprocal shooting.
Ya! Nice shots of the Teams you talk about! Nice improvement.
Go go MT
Fun video! I like the super-Mario “reason #..”
Best part is that it is more dynamic than regular 40k because one player moves an operative and then the other player plays his turn, so you are focused on the game and don't wanna kill yourself as you watch someone play his entireee army and zone out ....
Agree on this. And you don't have to pray that there is something left to move and attack with on your turn. I've been blasted out of a game turn 1 due to some great rolls from my opponents too many times.
I like it from an collecting fewpoint. I started with dawm of war and have a kinda catch them all attitude towards the factions. (Well atleast most of them) with kill team i can collect one box have fun painting it and can play with these units. And dont need to buy a combat patrol or more.
Another more narrative reason:
Since warhammer is a best of of multiple franchises its easy to make small narrative games. Like guard vs black painted gaunts that uses genestealer rules on gallowdark terrain as a boardgame version of "aliens". Or necrons as terminators.
I'm an AT player and thinking about to start this system too.
I have 6 Kill Teams. I learned I love Votann...
Rock and stone, to the bone!
Hope for Deathguard killteam in the future , and something new updates this december for Killteam
More modern rule concepts like alternate activation and dice pools make for a better experience. The disappointing thing is that the layouts are symmetrical. Having the choice of side should mean something. Infinity works with asymmetric layouts. I also like that the secondary missions give a feel of asymmetric warfare.
kill team is a godsend . i could never imagine myself playing 40k . but with killteam i feel like finally i can give it a try
You'd be surprised man! I joined the hobby through Killteam, 40k always seemed like just too much of a hurdle comparatively. Recently dipped my toes into 40k to try it out and its easier to learn and play in every single way to me. Games are longer, but 10th edition made 40k easier than Killteam lol.
Great stache brad
Slowly painting up 2 kill teams. I paint slow but can't wait to play.
I’m showing this to my friends!
Kill team is the best 😄👍
Working on 12 teams. Only played once, with my son, trying to get him into it ;-)
I wanted to get into Kill Team, but in the end I realized that the setting wasn't for me *points at self*. I ended up getting deep into Marvel Crisis Protocol and I've started to dabble in Shatterpoint.
Here's an update: I'm selling Shatterpoint and getting into Kill Team. 7 months really change a guy.
the most important thing about killteam vs warhammer 40k 10th edition is that the teams plays like it should be.
an example, i play thousand sons in 10th, they feel good to play, but i'm not feeling the vibe of "evil space wizards". In killteam, warpcoven feels like i'm playing that, plus the options to customize your operatives.
killteam should be the abridged version of big brother 40k, but now it is the exact opposite
Excellent point. KT is just so much more thematic and focused.
If you collect Joytoy Warhammer figures, kill team is a game you can actually play with your figures. Two things at once!
If these aren’t the two most likeable guys on the internet I just don’t know who is…. LOVE IT!
im a complete beginer on the tabletop . the rules are hard for me to learn and feels complicated . but its amazing how little investment you need . and 6 vs 6 is enough .
Could you possibly do Underworlds videos in the near future?
I love necromunda. It’s sad I can’t find more.
2 more reasons I enjoy killteam over 40k:
My first one is the biggest one for me: The interactions / storytelling.
In 40k I barely have any cool storytelling memories. "My squad of 5 sisters with meltas killed a tank" is just... not... dope? Melee is boring as fuck and usually is only a "my 20 melee guys charge your 15 shooting people and now your guys are gone".
In killteam you have dope storytelling moments like a guy with a flamer hiding behind a wall, jumping out in the right moment, killing 3 people and saving the game.
Melee is actually interactive and ANYONE can "technically" survive melee by carefully parrying and having the dice gods on their side.
The 2nd reason is that it's easier to transport and setup. I like 40k, but having to travel half an hour with my giant hard-plastic transport case is annoying as fuck. I have to transport this giant case and then setup my miniatures for like 15 minutes BEFORE the game even starts. Hell nah, now I have this tiny thing that fits in my normal everyday bag with my 6-15 miniatures.
With Night Lords looming, can we use those kill team models with 40K armies?
Would love to see some more death guard kt battle reports
You guys look like you brew your own beers 🔥
This channel is awesome, my favorite for kill team
Do you have a tutorial on how to play killteam?
Question... is there a space for mordheim on mountainside table top?
I love kill team and necromunda but my heart truly lies on the streets of mordheim amd i think you guys by far do the best battle reports I've seen, reckon you could do some cool stuff mordheim-wise
^^this^^
I'm the same (love KT & Necromunda, but Mordheim is my favourite), and reckon "Mordheimside Tabletop" would be incredible
I haven’t played kill team yet but have the octarius and into the dark box. What do I need to be up to date to play now? With gw there always seems to be something else needed to stay up to date.
I've been a lifelong 40k player and gave up after 8th ed. My window into how great small skirmish games is was Underworlds Shadespire. Ever since that's oewtty juch been my whole criteria. I'm just about to get into Kill Team with a few friends and getting back into Necromunda. I'll never play 40k again
Thanks for an interesting and entertaining review, based on your recommendations I'm in .
I would say Warcry is more expensive than KT. Playing "compendium" warbands is super expensive unless you already play that army, and almost the bespoke teams are better if you have multiple boxes to get access to multiple of the unique fighters.
Though KT does have its fair share of 2 box teams, thats the max youll get, and theres tons of teams that only use 1 box.
Also the inflexibility of KT makes it easier to learn strategies when the teams are (almost) always going to be the same
Is kill team and squad patrol both cross play with 40 K?
I like this kind of Videos from you👍
I'll be sticking with OPR Grimdark Future Firefight instead, i think.
What is that intro music you guys have? I think it’s the same for the starstriders, but where can one get their hands on it?
I really thought they already came painted man 😭 my ass is not patient or skilled enough to paint multiple mini figs. This and the price is probably what’s keeping me away ngl
Mustache Brad can’t hurt you
Love your batreps! Can I tempt you guys to play a Combat Patrol batrep?
Love the gamw
Follow up for Warcry?
Living in Los Angeles. How do I find people who play?
Just got done with a match yesterday. I dont want to say its "better" than 40k, but of the two ive had more fun with kill team so far. I just love boiling it down to a squad v. squad firefight, and its less of an investment in time and energy than a full 2,000 point game.
I think if you play warcry with the random battleplans and twists its totally random. If you play the matched play missions its very different.....
How long does kill team take in one game?
I missed reason Nr. 6: No Infinity community nearby. On a more seriouse note: You will find people to play everywhere.
Have you guys fallen out with KT?? Its been a month since your last KT battle!
Movember, lol 😂
The only thing i dont like about kill team, is that there are not many teams i like, i mean, not compendium team, i want some noise marines, some slaanesh demons, tau armor team, custodes and , i want more power unbalanced teams like gellerpox, for example, a full kill team of 6 tau armor but the leader has a crisis armor, shit killteams at base but really strong equipment to customize for the battle, a bit of compendium like kill teams are good too(i mean how they arent specialists based, some specialist but mostly squads good at something) and some more necrons(im a big necron fan, put as many as you want, im only playing hierotek rn and my friends almost dont want to play with me). For me adding some of these will make the game way better.
I play 40k, Necromunda and used to play kt, I hate how you measure on it and the bloat for what you get out of it. I'll stick to the other two. I can't see why kt exists with the other two.
What kind of watch are you wearing?
It’s a Citizen Eco-Drive Chrono AT
Thanks!@@MountainsideTabletop
Is it like warcry in. 40k Setting?
Not quite the same, it has a different gameplay
That is a good moustache
I got into Kill Team as a game to play while I build up a 40k army to play some 40k, and after a while I see the transition into playing 40k as not even worth it. I really enjoy Kill Team, and a majority of the aspects of 40k I just don't like when compared to Kill Team. The games take way longer, it has significantly more rule bloat, you can feel like you've already lost within the first 25% of playtime but don't want to concede because that's not fun and is unfair to the opponent who wants to play a full game of 40k... the list goes on. I like just buying a box of figures and having a brand new playable Kill Team out of the box. If I don't like it, who cares! Buy another box and try them out. You really don't get the same experience in 40k at all. Two extremely different games, and having played some 40k with friends armies, I'm gonna stick with Kill Team and Warcry as my go-to games.
Cool as always.
Left guy sounds and talks a lot like Morty haha
Competitive games are about comparable in time within 15 mins it’s the one reason I don’t agree with but there’s plenty of reasons to play kill team
Yep, you’re right on all counts. Warcry isn’t better or worse... just different. I don’t play Kill Team competitively, so the difference doesn’t matter to me.
DAT STACHE THOUGH 🫡
It is the game for me!
"everytime we say "you" we have to point at the camera"
immediately fails the rule with the next word out of his mouth
Love your videos guys. However I think you focused on the wrong aspects in this video, most DIE hard 40k players I know have this common misconception that kill team is still a small points 40k game? Where as now it is its own standalone game with great rules (maybe ripping off SW legion alittle) so yeah you need to play onto the fact that it doesnt feel like a mini 40k, you still roll lots of dice, you still have cool strats and secondaries and abilities and most of all you get emotionally attached to your minis.
I have none to play with 😢
Kill team is by far these best skirmish system on the market.
I gave up on full on 40K , but Kill Team and Warcry are way more fun , and a lot kinder to my wallet ! . Votann team coming this weekend.
I renew my request to see Kommandos on the channel !
Definitely something in store soon… 👀
Give me real Tyranids KT's please !
Nice stache brad
I find it has way too many rules and is far too vague with certain things. There are a few models in the game that have several paragraphs of special rules. It's just too much!
Warcry ? Anyone ?
The rules are better IMO
Oh they sooooo are
Gosh, I should have started with this one and not 40k 😅
YOU should post batrep videos instead of trying to convince us to play Kill Team (we already are convinced)
'Stache.
Kill team is gr-- hey wait. Brad. With a mustache?
...is he single? 👀
I kid lol
Brad sounds like Justin Roiland
KillTeam is awesome, was really hoping WarCry was going to just be "Fantasy KillTeam". I still play big40k on occasion but KT is my go-to
I was actually hoping when it released that current Kill Team was going to be "WarCry 40K"!
Mustache works! You look older than ten now!
I can’t i’m not rich
Who cares lol? My wife!!😂💸💸 3:58
You should not play that game.
Into the dark is totaly unbalanced map favoring melee teams.
Bheta decima is totaly unbalanced map favoring deobscuring teams.
2nd phase initiative is too random and too punishing for a loser.
Absurdly unrealistic obscure/hiding mechanic.
Compendium teams are trash-tier and GW does not even care.
Kill team is slower then 10th edition which partly did not help it
Keep up the great work guys.
It's cheaper to get into.