Could this be Lehi's DNA? (Native American Y chromosome DNA)
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- Опубликовано: 4 апр 2024
- Book of Mormon DNA evidence is getting stronger and stronger. Many male Native Americans, particularly in Algonquin tribes, have a Y-chromosome DNA type known as Y-DNA haplogroup R1b. This DNA type is associated in Native Americans who also have mitochondrial DNA haplogroup X2a. Together they point to an ancestry for Native Americans that fits the Book of Mormon. The DNA evidence supports the truthfulness and historicity of the Book of Mormon.
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There are likely more haplogroups besides the traditional ones found. I've found haplogroup P for the YDNA and H in the mtDNA. There is also a halt on DNA testing for some tribes which unfortunately means we may not get more answers from some regions of the Americas.
Fantastic presentation, thank you
Thank You again for your insight and presentation of this information,it is much appreciated! I was just watching "Navaho traditional teaching" podcast,titled "The Anasazi get to much credit" it was posted 8 months ago.at minute 6:00-7:00 your claims of there not being a migration across the land bridge is supported.
This is excellent! I have been studying from the Ojibwe 7 Fires Prophecies recently and it sounds a lot like the Book of Revelation, almost all North American Tribes have similar creations stories and end of days theology which parallel what we believe albeit through a cultural lens. Evening D&C 111:9-10 the Lord instructed his servants to learn of the more ancient inhabitants of Salem Massachusetts, but the chapter heading skips that point and we never hear of it after that. There was to be a great treasure. The prophecy from the Algonquin tribes speak of a young white skinned man who will teach a true way, the good way. That they are to know if the white skinned man is a friend or enemy by how they greet them and what they seek. Greet with a handshake and seek wisdom, and offer wisdom. That I believe was Joseph and continues to be our charge today.
Yes, thanks for your comments. I haven't looked at the seven fires account in a long time but I also remember it having intriguing similarities. I am also interested in your theory about the Massachusetts visit.
@@Lamanitehistory President Nelson admonished us to read D&C 109, I continued on to section 117. Those sections included phrases in 112 I heard from Elder Holland and reiterated all we have heard since 2018. In my opinion the Algonquin tribes in particular are a major part of the Last Days, the Book of Mormon was written for all but more particularly for them. Because they did have prophets and prophecies and they did come back down from the North, they are the more part of the descendants of Lehi and the introduction of the Book of Mormon states the record is for them. I don’t understand why we do not seek to understand and preserve all these Algonquin tribes history and teaching and build relationships with them. I think we can also recognize migration patterns from the Book of Mormon of new people coming into the land when there is “plagues and sicknesses” mentioned. At least worth considering a new DNA branch coming in at those times. It certainly happened more so between the times of 400AD-1400AD with Vikings and southern tribes pushing Algonquin further North past Cumorah, then it took 500 years to migrate back down where the Pilgrims came in. It’s just so fascinating and I get a sense of urgency with sharing. Thank you again!
Good resources on haplogroup X and R. The Common DNA in North America is haplogroup Q. I believe there is good evidence that haplogroup Q comes over bearingia some 2000 years ago. The linguistics of the Ket in Siberia is similar to many tribes in the US.
With haplogroup X, it has been found amongst 34 Hopewell samples. I believe haplogroup X has not been found in Mesoamerica samples of ancient peoples. The common haplogroup for ancient Mesoamerica is haplogroup A.
Hannah Stoddard did some research a while back that showed possible connections between the different peoples of Europe and America that were all descended from Jacob and Joseph through Efraim and Manassa. So weird but interesting.
I just started to watch this, but... don't you think it's interesting that your map of Mitochondrial DNA Haplogroup X shows a high concentration in Iceland and Orkney/Pictland ? Any thoughts about that?
Yes, it's interesting to me too, but I have not pursued that research yet to learn more about how the other places with haplogroup X were settled.
@@Lamanitehistory I have thoughts on that! Two points of interests that might help explain a connection - 1)) There are many legends in Ireland of Jeremiah and the wife and daughter of King Zedekiah (Tamar Tephi) coming to northern Ireland after their escape from Jerusalem, with the daughter Tamar Tephi marrying the King of northern Ireland. Mulek is a pet name meaning "little prince", and we know he was the youngest of the sons, but the name denotes he was actually quite young upon leaving. Was the queen pregnant with him? Was he disguised as the little servant said to have come along with the Queen in the Irish legends? Those in Northern Ireland were said to be the descendants of Zara, the red thread twin of Judah who did not get the throne and thus had to leave main-body Israel. They are said to have settled in Ireland (you can find reference to that red hand on their crest). It has made me wonder if Mulek grew to manhood in northern Ireland, where his sister was queen, gained followers and left for the new world. It's very interesting that his descendants named their city ZARAhemla - a reference to being descendants of Zara perhaps? Is this why there is a mtDNA haplogroup X connection between the Hopewell & Irish?
2) Another possibility is just more Atlantic travel going on between the ancient continents than we tend to think. For example - the Mi'kmaq tribe of New York (an Algonquin tribe) have an ancient alphabet that is almost an exact match for ancient Irish alphabet, showing a connection between the two cultures at some point. They also had some dress customs similar to ancient Hebrew dress customs. Then you've got the DNA matching up as well. Clearly there was a connection. But when? I would be interested in someone doin an analysis of the mutations on haplogroup X between the two cultures to see when the split happened.
I suspect R1b is from the tribe of Judah, because it is the haplogroup of the western European royals...who claim their right to rule from being the royal bloodline of Judah. Very interesting to see that R1b shows up so much with the Algonquin men as well. Especially knowing that the Mulekites (tribe of Judah) were a large part of the Nephite population. But I've also wondered if it might be Ephraim though and R1a Manassah. Thoughts? Very interesting your end point about the two other haplogroups that seemed to have come with R1b and X. What are thoughts on who that could be?
Another interesting thing about Y-dna R1b for members of the church is that Joseph Smith had that Y-dna type per testing done by Ugo Perego. Brigham Young said Joseph Smith was "pure Ephraimite."
It’s interesting that it’s the people who live in the north east. I have my own theories about the seven nations, Confederacy, the story and teachings of handsome lake, the great law of peace and the white tree, and so on. Even things like wampum are symbolic and have connections in my opinion to other things across the water. So far I’ve got four binders that are 4 inches thick with research over the last year.the Lord is keeping his promise to pour out knowledge. I love the DNA evidence though. The most important thing to the Lord is his people. Children of Jacob.
Also - any luck in finding out the y-DNA for the Adena? I cannot find that anywhere. But surely they've tested that by now.
I'm not aware of any DNA tests for the Adena. I know that's surprising, but the truth is that DNA testing of ancient Americans in the US is extremely limited.
***DUDE (R-M173) is Polynesian & Indonesian, Same as the Kennewick Man X2a Mitochondria. So Algonquian peoples are Polynesian.***
See Origin: A Genetic History of the Americas by Dr. Jennifer Raff, 2022
Now you just need a group of non-LDS experts to agree with your theory.
Truth doesn't need a group of scientists to agree to it to be true. It can be hard to determine what's true, but truth should be consistent with good data and logic. I try to follow good data and logic even in spots where it differs from the most common views.
@@Lamanitehistory Logic and data HIGHLY suggests the historicity of Mormonism is a joke. Jews didn't cross the Atlantic 2000 years before Columbus. DNA, or the lack thereof, proves this point. Even 1 anachronism destroys the narrative. Data and Logic suggests this is boring fan fiction.
You said in your previous video that you were going to talk about the Kennewick man. You need to not only address the radiocarbon dating of Kennewick man but you need to address the actual DNA evidence that shows him to be 9,000 years old.
The upcoming video will look at the carbon dating and burial circumstances. Kennewick Man is dated based on carbon dating, not by DNA. DNA shows ancestry but is not a reliable method of dating, however, if there is a particular study you would like me to address, cite it below and I'll get to it within a few more weeks.
There are several articles about Kennewick man. You wanted me to give you one. Here's just the Wikipedia article start with.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennewick_Man#:~:text=Technology%20for%20analyzing%20ancient%20DNA,where%20the%20bones%20were%20found.
DNA analysis could be off by 5000 years and it would still be a problem for the time frame of the Book of Mormon
It's not just Kennewick man, but also Anzick Child. He did not have the same haplogroup, but he is 12,000 years old. His remains were found in Montana
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzick-1
The Book of Mormon claims that the Jaredites came to a land that had never been inhabited before. And that the new world was reserved for a righteous people. Both Kennewick man and Anzick Child are also a problem for the garden of Eden in Jackson County Missouri 6000 years ago.
You are trying so hard to confirm your bias about the Book of Mormon that with equal effort, you would prove the existence of Narnia and Middle Earth in similar chambers of delusion.
That's not a serious comment. If I'm wrong, show me by actual data where I'm wrong instead of just dismissing it without thinking.
@@Lamanitehistory Sir, even if there was a shared chromosome, you are making a claim that it was Lehi’s DNA, a specific person. You have heaps of scientific research to do to link together the 2 points: that 1) Lehi was a real person from Jerusalem (a Semite/Israelite) and 2) He is the biological father of all native Americans. Where you go wrong is your assumption that you have perhaps found the link between the 2 points. The claim made in the intro of the BOM (ignore the latest revision by Church leaders who are afraid of being proven wrong) that Lehi’s descendants are actually the native Americans (Joseph Smith said Lehi landed in Chile), who have been around for at least 10,000 years much further back in time than the BOM story, will not likely be proven by your theories or attempts at research. If anything, you will prove otherwise.
This is excellent! I have been studying from the Ojibwe 7 Fires Prophecies recently and it sounds a lot like the Book of Revelation, almost all North American Tribes have similar creations stories and end of days theology which parallel what we believe albeit through a cultural lens. Evening D&C 111:9-10 the Lord instructed his servants to learn of the more ancient inhabitants of Salem Massachusetts, but the chapter heading skips that point and we never hear of it after that. There was to be a great treasure. The prophecy from the Algonquin tribes speak of a young white skinned man who will teach a true way, the good way. That they are to know if the white skinned man is a friend or enemy by how they greet them and what they seek. Greet with a handshake and seek wisdom, and offer wisdom. That I believe was Joseph and continues to be our charge today.