The tracker is surprisingly accurate, it's the time frames that are hard to wrap the head around. Sometime around 76000 years ago (Our ancient ancestors left Africa (Likely after the Toba eruption) & migrated east & north following herds until they got to the Lake Baikal region Where the common ancestors P1, Q & R haplo groups all originated between 38000 BCE & 28000 BCE. The Q went further east & became the ancestors of all native Americans. R went west & R1 shows up around 26000 BCE in around modern Kazakhstan with R1a going further west north of the Aral sea & R1b coming back into southern Anatolia around 19000BCE at the end of the last glacial maximum. By 12000 BCE R1b had made it all the way to northern Italy. Europe was a slow takeover though until the bronze age for R1b. Undoubtedly many familiar hero tales & gods of old are R1b attributable.
The oldest Y-DNA Haplogroup R* individual was found in Southern Siberia in the Mal'ta Buret Culture of +-24 000 years ago. R1 formed a bit after that and R1b after R1. R1b most likely formed around 18 000 years ago. The oldest R1b Male remains sofar found was in Italy, Villabruna who lived 14 000 years ago. Then there are many Mesolithic R1b samples stretching from Ukraine to the Baltic states and into the Balkans. The best bet to know where a certain Haplogroup originated is to look at actual Ancient DNA samples and not at its current distribution. If I remember correctly the Villabruna cluster looks like a sister of Vestonice with some ANE (Ancient North Eurasian) admixture. The proxy for Ancient North Eurasians is the Mal'ta Buret samples and seeing that Villabruna Man was R1b and Mal'ta Buret R* it is not rocket science to figure out from where the Ancestors of R1b came. Most probably Western Siberia via the Southern Urals into Russia, Ukraine and maybe even Poland along the Northern Carpathians. R1b itself I think formed somewhere between the Southern Urals, the Caucasus and the Northeastern Carpathians.
@@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING what slavery in every nation so yeah every race is mixed pretty much with white people. We never invaded. We were kidnapped. My family is still slaves in almost every nation even through taxes.😊
My paternal lineage is R1b1a2a1a2c and maternal lineage H2a2a1d. Your Maternal lineage immediately caught my eye because there is not much info about H2a2a1d available. As far as I could gather the oldest H2a2a1 and some downstream lineages were found in Anatolia at the site of Catal Huyuk around 7000 BC. and the second oldest I could find was found in Poland (Corded Ware Culture). One of two possibilities comes to mind. H2a2a1 etc. was part of the Globular Amphora Culture or some earlier Eneolithic Steppe admixture between the Dnieper and Don Rivers....Hope this helps.
That questionable map you have there I think is not specifically R1b but starts at Y-DNA Haplogroup A etc....F > K > P > R > R1b. Also have a look at the Yana RHS samples which is linked to the Mal'ta Buret population and carries the Ancestral Haplogroup P....
My paternal lineage is R1b-L23 as well. I'm from Russia. I don't know exact subclade honestly. I would like to make Big Y to find my exact subclade out.
What shocked me the most when learning about haplogroups is how little these things have to do with how people actually look (phenotype). Two people of the same haplogroup could look completely different from each other. Which in turn makes Racism even dumber than I previously thought.
R1b belongs to one branch of the male direct line, which includes many men today, around the world. If you have R1b, your direct paternal line comes from that journey.
If the dating is wrong your R1 DNA could have come from Middle Ages invasions from the East. Mongols conquered Uzbek and enlisted those men in their armies. 🤔
Though I've not looked very deep into the haplogroups, I have a little, but I was under the impression that R1b did not travel that far into Asia, apparently it did. I was under the impression it spread out in that cross section of Eurasia, and spreading everywhere from there. To be continued lol.
The maps in the video shows a path according to the DNA samples found in certain areas, so they give us a location prediction based on the samples found nearby, along with a predicted date. The R Haplogroup was designated R somewhere in North Asia. But before they designated it R somewhere in Asia, it was another letter, until back in time, it reverts to Africa. All the Haplogroups eventually revert back to Y Adam. But in order to organize all the groups that branched out, they designate letters as people went in various directions.
@@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING Spanish-Hispán are Illyrian or IL-EL-LE-THE Irian-Arian-Aryan a group native to Balkans to the Mediterranean side and arguably where the so called "ancient Greek" even do arguably there where a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul a part of alliance that moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia in various periods of time but where already a developed civilization in Bronze age. The R haplogroup would have been a Sumerian haplogroup where the gap between R1A haplogroup is arguably a result of late Chinese-Mongol extermination of Irian-Arian-Aryan. The Spanish-Hispán migration to Iberian Peninsula in mass happened around 1000 years ago and so it was them whom drove out the Muslims invadors from Iberian Peninsula. Hope it helped you understand some of archeo-genetic data and why does it have some connection to Hungarian-Macar-Scythians.
Did some more research and it seems that Y-DNA Haplogroup R entered Eastern Europe around 19 000 years ago. Their territory stretched from just North of Perm to Yekatarinburg. They brought Micro-Blade technology from Siberia. So R1b maybe originated somewhere between Perm and Yekatarinburg near the Ural Mountains.
@@RandomGuy-df1oy Most probably. The furthest East Haplogroup R was found was at Mal'ta Buret. Near Lake Baikal. We know that some Afontova Gora samples are closer to Europeans than populations to their East...However it seems that the Yenisei was not such an "impenetrable" barrier for Y-DNA Haplogroup Q....
@@RandomGuy-df1oy Maybe it became colder East of the Yenisei than to the West and that is why Haplogroup R did not migrate in that direction and most probably became more prominent in Western Siberia and later Eastern Europe...
That tracker map makes no sense. It is far more likely. That R1b started around Egypt then spread from there. The European branch headed up through the Caucus range, Africa headed down the nile, the Asia spread through Assyria. This can also be traced through Greek historians, European migration histories, and the Old Testament. The highest concentration of R1B today is in europe, and its territories, then some in asia and africa.
I figured R1b in the Steppe, or broadly in Anatolia, but not that far into Asia as seen on the map. I've not dug into haplogroups to be able to say either way, I'm speculating. Your track seems as reasonable alternative too.
@TheInvisibleMan Thanks for sharing your thoughts. For me, I can't say for sure, I've not looked into it enough. But I was under the assumption that R1b spread from Eurasia/Russian Steppes, more to the Eastern end, like you've mentioned. Maybe the lines on the map are rough estimates. Although the Haplogroup order would be correct, the plotting of their journey might not be. I need to look into it more when I have the chance.
R1b (V88) in Africa spread from the Middle East into Africa during the Neolithic. They most probably spread from the Balkans(Southeastern Europe) through Anatolia and the Middle East into Egypt and beyond. There was a Scientific paper that dealt with this question....
I think the average citizen in Africa would probably have beyond 95 or 98% in genetic admixture of ancestry of specific regions for thousands of years. Whereas, the R1B in Africa would probably have more Asian, European or Southern European with small bits of factorize % in DNA that traces thousands of years ago.
Hi may I suggest that you check out answers in genesis . In ref to y haplogroup. Natanael jeason. Now you have to be open minded. And follow the “science” were it may lead. R1b1 did not come through Africa. If you shorten the timelines, it makes more sense. If you and don’t agree is ok. Let me know what you think. By the way I was born in Cuba. R1b1b u152 y. Italian, Spanish. Alberto perez here
The tracker is surprisingly accurate, it's the time frames that are hard to wrap the head around. Sometime around 76000 years ago (Our ancient ancestors left Africa (Likely after the Toba eruption) & migrated east & north following herds until they got to the Lake Baikal region Where the common ancestors P1, Q & R haplo groups all originated between 38000 BCE & 28000 BCE. The Q went further east & became the ancestors of all native Americans. R went west & R1 shows up around 26000 BCE in around modern Kazakhstan with R1a going further west north of the Aral sea & R1b coming back into southern Anatolia around 19000BCE at the end of the last glacial maximum. By 12000 BCE R1b had made it all the way to northern Italy. Europe was a slow takeover though until the bronze age for R1b. Undoubtedly many familiar hero tales & gods of old are R1b attributable.
That comment on rabbit holes is so true!
The oldest Y-DNA Haplogroup R* individual was found in Southern Siberia in the Mal'ta Buret Culture of +-24 000 years ago. R1 formed a bit after that and R1b after R1. R1b most likely formed around 18 000 years ago. The oldest R1b Male remains sofar found was in Italy, Villabruna who lived 14 000 years ago. Then there are many Mesolithic R1b samples stretching from Ukraine to the Baltic states and into the Balkans.
The best bet to know where a certain Haplogroup originated is to look at actual Ancient DNA samples and not at its current distribution. If I remember correctly the Villabruna cluster looks like a sister of Vestonice with some ANE (Ancient North Eurasian) admixture. The proxy for Ancient North Eurasians is the Mal'ta Buret samples and seeing that Villabruna Man was R1b and Mal'ta Buret R* it is not rocket science to figure out from where the Ancestors of R1b came. Most probably Western Siberia via the Southern Urals into Russia, Ukraine and maybe even Poland along the Northern Carpathians. R1b itself I think formed somewhere between the Southern Urals, the Caucasus and the Northeastern Carpathians.
Thank you for all the insight, I appreciate it!
@@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING My pleasure.
@@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING what slavery in every nation so yeah every race is mixed pretty much with white people. We never invaded. We were kidnapped. My family is still slaves in almost every nation even through taxes.😊
My paternal lineage is R1b1a2a1a2c and maternal lineage H2a2a1d. Your Maternal lineage immediately caught my eye because there is not much info about H2a2a1d available. As far as I could gather the oldest H2a2a1 and some downstream lineages were found in Anatolia at the site of Catal Huyuk around 7000 BC. and the second oldest I could find was found in Poland (Corded Ware Culture). One of two possibilities comes to mind. H2a2a1 etc. was part of the Globular Amphora Culture or some earlier Eneolithic Steppe admixture between the Dnieper and Don Rivers....Hope this helps.
Im Kosovo/Albanian my haplo Is R1b/ Pf7562/63.
That questionable map you have there I think is not specifically R1b but starts at Y-DNA Haplogroup A etc....F > K > P > R > R1b. Also have a look at the Yana RHS samples which is linked to the Mal'ta Buret population and carries the Ancestral Haplogroup P....
My paternal lineage is R1b-L23 as well.
I'm from Russia.
I don't know exact subclade honestly. I would like to make Big Y to find my exact subclade out.
As for R1b1a2a1a2d or R-U152 it seems to have formed in the Bell Beaker Culture....
I’m R1B U152
What shocked me the most when learning about haplogroups is how little these things have to do with how people actually look (phenotype). Two people of the same haplogroup could look completely different from each other. Which in turn makes Racism even dumber than I previously thought.
cool...any more details ?
Hello, i am a Kurd or Kurdish or Kurdistan or Kurdi, my haplogroup is R1b-L2 or R1b1a1b1a1a2b1. I am very confused😂 What does it mean?
R1b belongs to one branch of the male direct line, which includes many men today, around the world. If you have R1b, your direct paternal line comes from that journey.
@@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING do you have an instagram account?
If the dating is wrong your R1 DNA could have come from Middle Ages invasions from the East. Mongols conquered Uzbek and enlisted those men in their armies. 🤔
R1a is Aryan
I have Yamnaya admixture
Dude! You're REALLY getting deep in the weeds now!
Though I've not looked very deep into the haplogroups, I have a little, but I was under the impression that R1b did not travel that far into Asia, apparently it did. I was under the impression it spread out in that cross section of Eurasia, and spreading everywhere from there. To be continued lol.
Are you SURE R Haplogroup starts in Chad...and if so could you provide other sources thanks???
The maps in the video shows a path according to the DNA samples found in certain areas, so they give us a location prediction based on the samples found nearby, along with a predicted date. The R Haplogroup was designated R somewhere in North Asia. But before they designated it R somewhere in Asia, it was another letter, until back in time, it reverts to Africa. All the Haplogroups eventually revert back to Y Adam. But in order to organize all the groups that branched out, they designate letters as people went in various directions.
@@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING Thanks for the reply it's very much appreciated!!!
@@ESCAGEDOWOODWORKING Spanish-Hispán are Illyrian or IL-EL-LE-THE Irian-Arian-Aryan a group native to Balkans to the Mediterranean side and arguably where the so called "ancient Greek" even do arguably there where a Gál-Gaelic-Gaul a part of alliance that moved between Portugal,BenGal and Mongolia and have connected Iberian Peninsula with Caucasian Iberian Kingdom and Siberia in various periods of time but where already a developed civilization in Bronze age.
The R haplogroup would have been a Sumerian haplogroup where the gap between R1A haplogroup is arguably a result of late Chinese-Mongol extermination of Irian-Arian-Aryan.
The Spanish-Hispán migration to Iberian Peninsula in mass happened around 1000 years ago and so it was them whom drove out the Muslims invadors from Iberian Peninsula.
Hope it helped you understand some of archeo-genetic data and why does it have some connection to Hungarian-Macar-Scythians.
Did some more research and it seems that Y-DNA Haplogroup R entered Eastern Europe around 19 000 years ago. Their territory stretched from just North of Perm to Yekatarinburg. They brought Micro-Blade technology from Siberia. So R1b maybe originated somewhere between Perm and Yekatarinburg near the Ural Mountains.
Does R come from ANE around Yenisei River in Siberia?
@@RandomGuy-df1oy Most probably. The furthest East Haplogroup R was found was at Mal'ta Buret. Near Lake Baikal. We know that some Afontova Gora samples are closer to Europeans than populations to their East...However it seems that the Yenisei was not such an "impenetrable" barrier for Y-DNA Haplogroup Q....
@@RandomGuy-df1oy Maybe it became colder East of the Yenisei than to the West and that is why Haplogroup R did not migrate in that direction and most probably became more prominent in Western Siberia and later Eastern Europe...
Hello. I am R-CTS5330 as well.
Я R-CTS3402.
Wow, Eloy! Quite interesting!
Thanks Billy!
That tracker map makes no sense. It is far more likely. That R1b started around Egypt then spread from there.
The European branch headed up through the Caucus range, Africa headed down the nile, the Asia spread through Assyria.
This can also be traced through Greek historians, European migration histories, and the Old Testament.
The highest concentration of R1B today is in europe, and its territories, then some in asia and africa.
I figured R1b in the Steppe, or broadly in Anatolia, but not that far into Asia as seen on the map. I've not dug into haplogroups to be able to say either way, I'm speculating. Your track seems as reasonable alternative too.
@TheInvisibleMan Thanks for sharing your thoughts. For me, I can't say for sure, I've not looked into it enough. But I was under the assumption that R1b spread from Eurasia/Russian Steppes, more to the Eastern end, like you've mentioned. Maybe the lines on the map are rough estimates. Although the Haplogroup order would be correct, the plotting of their journey might not be. I need to look into it more when I have the chance.
R1b (V88) in Africa spread from the Middle East into Africa during the Neolithic. They most probably spread from the Balkans(Southeastern Europe) through Anatolia and the Middle East into Egypt and beyond. There was a Scientific paper that dealt with this question....
R1b is Eurasian not African in origin
Correct. Majority of Africans who are of haplogroup E and R1b have a large amount of Eurasian DNA.
My relative was perceived to have central Asian phenotype. My dad's side is R1B.
My relative was perceived to have central Asian phenotype. My dad's side is R1B.
I think the average citizen in Africa would probably have beyond 95 or 98% in genetic admixture of ancestry of specific regions for thousands of years. Whereas, the R1B in Africa would probably have more Asian, European or Southern European with small bits of factorize % in DNA that traces thousands of years ago.
Hi may I suggest that you check out answers in genesis . In ref to y haplogroup. Natanael jeason. Now you have to be open minded. And follow the “science” were it may lead. R1b1 did not come through Africa. If you shorten the timelines, it makes more sense. If you and don’t agree is ok. Let me know what you think. By the way I was born in Cuba. R1b1b u152 y. Italian, Spanish. Alberto perez here
White Indo-Eurasids (Y-DNA): R1, R1a, R1b
Emptying out water buckets while the Titanic is sinking, is silly, because it's futile.