Forensic Psychologist Disagrees with Statements of Johnny Depp's Expert Psychologist
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2022
- Amber Heard's forensic psychologist Dr. Dawn Hughes disagreed with the statement of Johnny Depp's expert psychologist Dr. Shannon Curry that she used improper methods.
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You can't make this up. This trial has everything what an actual drama movie needs.
Wait next year for Netflix to release a documentary on this
Indeed.
how coincidental
The documentary or lifetime original will just be a rerun of this.
Depp's next movie after this will be the trial with him playing himself lol.
Dr. Hughes seems to have tendency to basically say "I'm right cause I say so." Not like Dr. Curry who stated sources and based her opinions off of research.
Like Dr Siegel?
@@angelsadventure4996 Yes, but less erratic lol
This. Very much This. This comment deserves way more likes, you summed it up so well.
@@emmaleemartin6007 Appreciate it!
Dr Hughes has lost all credibility in my eyes. I don’t believe in her I don’t believe in her work. She cuts corners and probably does not follow all the rules in her line of work.
I will take Dr Curry’s word over hers every time. There’s no comparison between them.
JUST NOW she lost credibility for you?? Not the last time 😂😂😂😂😂 jk lol no but seriously just now?
@@pellitabarbie for real! I saw her as incredible the minute she came to the stand the first time with her biased analysis and her reading notes for answering like she got no mind of her own🤦🏾♀️😹😹
Agreed 100%. She comes across as obnoxious and hostile, not to mention patronising and condescending. 🤮
@@pellitabarbie where did OP say "just now" she has lost all credibility ? Maybe he/she just meant that Dr Hugh's lost her credibility already from the things throughout the past in the trial.
@@pellitabarbie lmao she never had any to begin with eh
every single witness amber has brought in has been infuriating, annoying, and dramatic, and it reflects so much on her character
Look at her now wearing glasses just for the jury
Hughes being cocky, 'all you have to do is read the manual'. Two minutes later,
'The Manual' comes into evidence. 😆
omg i know right, that’s exactly what i thought too🤣🤣🤣
😄
And she did follow the manual in both instances.
I'm a survivor/victim of severe domestic violence and even after 40 years I still can recall every incident in detail. She doesn't represent me, if anything, she disgusts me.
If she really is a victim she sure doesn't act anything like us SURVIVORS do, that's for sure!
@@masayoyanagisawa3537 I'm a survivor and I don't appreciate the micro managing of survivors' responses just so you all want to prove a point about throwing Amber Heard under the bus
I hope you're living a better life now.
@@izzatijam901 Thank you for saying this
@@izzatijam901 mostly agreed . It is very clear that Amber Heard is lying and there is evidence, but some things that I find people pointing out don’t really mean much. Like just talk about the other evidence, you don’t need to criticize EVERY single thing she does to try and prove her wrong. But she has shown behaviour that doesn’t make sense for a survivor a lot of times.
For all of her talking, Hughes simply cannot get around that fact that many of the tools she used were based solely on information Heard gave her, and which she accepted at face value, and that she didn't use tests would reveal manipulation by Heard (as Curry did); that some of the tools she used were inappropriate within the context; and that some were actually misused ,or not fully used and she relied on partial results. FAIL.
She fudged her tests to get a pay cheque. Lol it’s unethical to not fill tests in properly. She’s straight up discredited IMO. She’s also way too biased lol
I know this isn’t the right way to judge a person, but she looks like she was born to be on the bad guy’s side.
I think people’s character shows in thei face as they get older and this person looks plain mean. I wouldn’t let her treat a dead cockroach.
Lol
No logic to this comment. She doesn't look as attractive as Dr Curry so she must be bad. Lol. This is not a beauty pageant contest.
This woman gives me the same bad Vibes 👎 lol...she s "forensic", uh?...Lmao...
Facts. Almost everyone on Amber's side looks miserable & mean.
SHE IS NOT A PSYCHOLOGIST! SHE IS AN OPINIONIST!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
She doesn't fill in the boxes in the STANDARDIZED tests, but scribbles on some 88 notes on the side. Annoys with her arrogant attitude. Truly a professional not looking for a paycheck.
She seems very arrogant yeah she thinks because of her career what she does is the absolute truth sadly a lot of seniors across businesses seem to have that mindset
But Denison should have taken opportunity to corner her but he didnt. What a miss
Calling the CAPS-5 a standardized test is misleading. Standardized testing in psychology refers to testing where the instructions and scoring are standardized so that scores can be compared with a group that has taken the test. Eg intelligence tests, PAI, MMPI2 tests are standardized. CAPS-5 is not. Writing something on the side rather than on the left doesn't change the scoring.
@@Tamarahope77 I hope you're not actually deluding yourself with these convenient arguments to support such a chaotic display of a professional report. Even if it was "not a standardized" test and scribbling on the side has the same meaning, then why she didn't she put in the extra effort to fill in everything and the BLANKS in this highly public trial? This will add to her credibility. It looks like a weak performance, but more likely, it's very suspect.
@@MrCyberamp The trial is now highly public because it is televised. It wasn't then. As long as her information is correct, and she scores correctly and interprets it correctly, that's what is important. Where she writes it is a trivial part of it.
You're right about credibility, though. But if one is critiquing whether her conclusions can be defended, not what it makes her look like, then what she did supported her conclusions.
In other words, PR-wise, not a good look. But the substance of her conclusion is defensible.
It's like the President not combing his hair or reading a word on the autocue wrongly.
Edit: Not writing in the box provided is not a defeater. But misinterpreting scores in the MMPI and the ATR scale and CAPS-5, like Dr Curry did, absolutely annuls her conclusions. They're basically nails in the coffin. But great PR though. Nice hair.
Who would you trust more as a mentor? Someone who intentionally speaks over your head and is incredibly defensive or someone like Dr. Curry who answers scientifically but takes the time to explain everything accurately? Dr.Hughes' defensiveness is a distraction to her cutting corners to arrive at whatever conclusions she's being paid to say. I hope the jury sees this.
I said yesterday to my france that if I were in court I'd want Dr. Curry because even if what she says about me is not what I want to hear, it'll be right. And there is a comment from me one of the videos on this channel saying someone needs to check into all of Amber's witnesses because I think theyre getting paid to try to make Amber look like an honest victim.
Goodness, Dr. Curry took this woman to the cleaners and dragged her before she could even take the stand. Dr. Hughes comes off as arrogant, defensive and hostile.
Dr curry is the most beautiful doctor in the world
Surely the jury can see how bitter and unprofessional this woman is. Dr. Curry disagreed with her "expert findings" and obviously she took it personally. This one was hard to watch.
Every witness AH’s team has called on has been erratic and scary.. contrast to JD’s witnesses who have all been eloquent and thorough
@@everythinghaschanged42 it really has been weird to see the stark contrast between AH and JD, including their witnesses, legal teams, evidence, and themselves. The outcome of this trial really shouldn't be difficult.
That is NOT what Dr. Curry said about PTSD! And as someone with PTSD it's not at all like this lady makes it sound. She makes it sound like a minor inconvenience that we can control. There is no off switch, lady.
Man
Stay safe.fake Johnn depp.wants cash
She talks about how she used tests for a clinical setting because most people that come to her are in a clinical setting.. guess what.. this isn’t a clinical setting, it’s forensic
unfortunately, lay people are refered to as LAY for a reason. They will easily be fooled with technical language and procedures they know absolutely nothing about
a lay person basically sees two women, a good looking younger woman and a rather disagreeble old woman, saying "this is this way because x, w, and z, based on litearture and research" and "no, this is actually that way"
Actually, tests used in a clinical setting can be used in a forensic setting to evaluate mental state or to form an opinion about diagnosis. And tests used primarily in research (CTS2) can also be used in a clinical setting, but these tests are not meant to be interpreted as stand-alones, but combined with clinical interviews with the person as well as treating others.
Dr. Curry is definitely more credible and believable. "Read the Manual "
The PCL 5 should not be used as a diagnostic tool. The clinician still needs to use the CAPS-5 for diagnosis. Hughes made her diagnosis without the CAPS-5.
Not true. She did clinical interviews. That's how most psychiatrists would diagnose PTSD.
@@Tamarahope77 Doing clinical interviews doesn't mean that she doesn't have to follow procedures. Just because you're a board certified psychologist doesn't mean that you're above the law of standard procedure.
@@Tamarahope77 she cheated.
@@niccolea2086 You have to show how. With no evidence, that's just speculation.
@@ramzansson395 I agree with you. But you have to show - in what way did she not follow procedures, and how did it affect the conclusion?
What I am getting from Dr. Huges is that she's the only one who doesn't need to follow the manual.
because she's so qualified and knowledgable and provides training and guidelines for whatever porpuse she said she does in the field (I am not sure what exactly she said she provides) - having so many years of experience and accomplishments, that she can determine and spot PTSD with the naked eye. People in power (God knows how they get there..) are so disgusting how grossly arrogant and morally repugnant they are. Someone soo accomplished as her does not necessary show more knowledge, expertise, intelligence BUT conscienciousness. So she should stop feeling Dr Curry's superior, because the only area where she is indeed superior is in AGE
But she did.
Dr Hughes needs an appointment with Dr Curry so Dr Curry can help her with her delusions
A mess. Love how Amber is now sitting there wearing perfect hair and make up, yet when she testified she made sure not to have either done. Her manipulation is soooo transparent. Hope the jury aren't idiots with this case!!
OMG what a foolish mistake to put this woman back on the stand. Clearly she didn't follow normal procedures for any of her diagnosis of AH and just "diagnosed" her with PTSD because that's what she was paid to do. She keeps refusing to answer any question without first going into some diatribe about how "her" way is the standardized way despite the directions for these exams clearly in her face saying otherwise. Dr. Curry puts this woman to shame.
To be fair...it was definitely foolish for AHs team to put her back up on the stand where she continued to get slaughtered by Camille. Her mountain of evidence was reduced to rubble in a matter of minutes.
So as a therapist - almost a doc - I don’t have the years experience this woman does, but even I know she’s wrong. I work with survivors of IPV/DV, etc, and she’s using the measures to come to the conclusion she was told to, not the conclusion we use in the field with our clients (she’s deliberately misusing the instruments).
Dr. Curry did not seem confused, actually Dr. Hughes seems to have a biased and her test and check off list, seemed to reflect this
Dr Hughes seems rather disagreeable doesn't she? While quite composed, well-spoken and definitely not as batshit crazy as Dr Smeagol she clearly is very full of herself and is stagnant at her accomplished career thinking she knows everything and what she says is the absolute truth.
Dr Smeagol lmao
@@BTLJKS Yep that's what im calling him now he acts like a wacko Gollum
Just because she's disagreeable doesn't mean she is incorrect. You go by the evidence and facts, not by 'seems' and 'feelings'.
@@Mogwai786 she did not fill out the forms correctly or completely and she didn't follow the instructions from the manual. Is that enough for you?
@@seven471 She filled out the relevant details on the side of the form, just not in the box. That's the hill you are going to fight and die on to show she's incorrect - the she didn't fill it in in the box. LOL
Also, cross examinations tend to produce disgreeable interactions, or have you not been watching the past month?
sorry but Dr. Curry seems much more expert in her job
Her body language (her body constantly facing the jury and she only turns her head to the lawyer when being asked a question), tells us that the jury is her focus NOT the question being asked. In other words what they THINK is more important than the truth! Her pants are on fire big time!
She lives off being an expert witness, in the future if the jury finds her testimony specifically to be fraudulent this will be referenced in every following trial. By god do I hope they do. She needs to be thrown out of court and never let back in. As Johnnys lawyers pointed out she never sided with a man in any case involving both genders.
Is it just me or are all of Heards witnesses totally unhinged..
Amber's lawyer calling her Dr. Curry cracks me up every time bc I can imagine Hughes being so irritated by it
this is like the best daytime soap opera that’s been on for ages😂👍
It's literally what I watch all day 💀 LOL
We all saw that Amber was definitely over-exaggerating her testimony. I don't need a hypothesis criteria to tell me that.
Good point. What Dr. Curry said reflects Amber's behavior in court better than what Dr. Hughes said. Which is another reason why Dr. Curry is more believable.
@@iNanieke That's where Dr Curry was misleading. The DSM5 makes it clear that you can't diagnose that way. Current behaviors can be explained by other factors.
That's why both Dr C and Dr H said you need a multi-method assessment using screens, clinician-administered tools, structured and unstructured clinical interviews, review of previous medical and psychology records, and interview with treating professionals and family members.
The reason that there are multiple validated feigning scales is because clinicians themselves can't tell if someone is over-exaggerating. It would be narcissistic of people to think they can, when research shows professionals can't.
I hope this woman loses her license.
I loved JDs lawyer: BUT DID YOU READ THE INSTRUCTIONS?????? 🤣
I wouldn’t want this lady to treat me in any way. She doesn’t seem very scientific at all, just spews big words to make up for the flaws in her explanation and procedure
Guys look at 0:26 on her lawyers tells her the camera is focused on her and she proceeds to "READ" a blank paper🤣🤣🤣🤣
there is a stark contrast between Dr Curry vs Dr Hughes.
People with PTSD are strong but they can't always be functional. Her explanation of functional is restricted to priorities. Ambers functions were parties, traveling, etc etc
I believe Amber's lawyers really went too deep about "you need to talk to jury for every answer you have".
Another aggressive psychologist who doesn’t realise she lacks the qualifications. Dr Curry is her superior
Or maybe it's because it feeds into your own biases.
@@Mogwai786 false, as someone who is studying psychology currently Dr. Curry is very passionate in her field everything she talked about is 100% u can’t use all tests. It has to measure correctly for the purpose as what Dr. Curry said. This woman diagnosed amber with PTSD solely off a checklist she checked off 😂 anyone can do that it has no filter
@@ky9530No not everyone can do that *correctly* apart from psychologists and trained practitioners, of which both of them are.
She is a load of crap just there for the money
Mrs curry no what amber is like shes believe her own lies
How is this woman a doctor? Her rebuttals are basically: Amber has this and that because she self reported so.
"Tell the world, Johnny, tell them, 'Johnny Depp, I, a man, I'm a victim too of domestic violence'. And see how many people believe or side with you" ...
You’re literally in everything video about this trial lmao we all know you want likes
Everyone
14:44 she doesn’t understand the question here. You as a psychiatrist CANNOT say if something happened or not you are not an investigator you are not a detective you can’t make claims you can only show how the client is affected by stressors or things they experience. You can’t prove that Johnny was cause of her trauma (if she had any) and that’s the question there that’s beyond ur scope as a psychiatrist. 🤷🏽♀️ can’t stand this woman at ALL it erks me I love Dr. Curry thoughb
They both are experienced but the way to convey the information is so important with a field this heavy with details.
Dr. Curry did give details in a manner which was digested easily for me. Her information is saturated to the point where comprehension is difficult.
As someone who adores psychology and wants to study it, this is so thrilling for me to watch and learn from.
I believe its harder to understand her because she speaks very redundantly, and goes around in circles saying the same thing. a lot of mumbo jumbo, a lot of big adjectives and the like.
Go for it! I'm currently studying psychology and I love it. I'm learning a lot from this trial too
She wants to look so wise and smart while obviously peaking at her script.
I was very intrigued to see her back on the stand and thought she surely had to have something to discredit Dr.Curry.
Boy was I wrong!
Why didn't Wayne Dennison ask Hughes why she lumped Heard's Adult trauma in with her Childhood trauma in her PTSD evaluation. They are supposed to be separate interviews, tests and evaluations according to Dr Curry.
He should have been sharper not letting her ramble during that moment. She is no Dr Speigel
Because she already explained it in her previous cross-examination. The CAPS-5 items are administered based on a specific trauma. For Amber, it was IPV in her relationship with Depp. Dr Hughes asked her about her childhood trauma at the end to make a note of it. If she thought that she had enough evidence of PTSD due to that, another CAPS-5 would be administered. They were not lumped in the CAPS-5.
Netflix should honestly make a fictional series of this
This is a slap in the face to all women who have actually been victims of domestic violence
The more Dr Hughes speaks, the more obvious the smoke & mirrors happening during her testimony becomes.
She's a...She's a.....SHE'S A KAREN ON THE LOOSE! Just look at her Karen Hair and face expressions!
😂😂😂😂
I'm surprised she didn't demand to speak to the judge's manager.
Hughes comes off as much more of a therapy-based psychologist, much more likely to take what a client says as fact due to the nature of therapy. The way she veers off into story-telling really reminds me of a therapist, even though she hasn't treated Heard
My degree is in psych. Unfortunately therapists are usually (not always, but quite often) more prone to take people at their word give them the benefit of the doubt. This also makes them frequent prey for psychopaths like heard to take advantage of them.
@@spideylover4105 indeed, it's a dangerous and slippery slope with a person like Amber. If I knew nothing about her I'd feel for her and advocate for her too, to a degree. But given we all know the facts, I as a professional would absolutely admit my fault or rather less than accurate findings and keep it moving. In Clinical practice, multiple heads is always better than one. She didn't go about interpreting these tests accurately. People who are intentional in what diagnosis they want to achieve can most certainly tailor their responses on many assessments/instruments. The manual and instructions are so detailed that without thorough investigation could lead to misdiagnosis.
It's obvious Amber is 🤥. Her assessment is biased and her defensiveness is a dead guve away that even if she were wrong she would likely not admit to that in open court. I pray the jury is at least partially filled with people who can discern better than this decades long expert.
Also, people with PTSD can handle daily living but not loud concerts and festivals, or unsafe environments. She's minimizing and emphasizing in a way so as to confuse the jury. 🤨
Great point
Someone tell me why I don't believe anything she's saying.
You still gave her a check list to select her symptoms sis!
Hello Dr Spiegel can you tell us if elaine has cognitive disorder because she misplaced her notes? Does that mean she has a poor processing speed?
BOOM!
🤣👍
😂😂
Oh no not this woman again
Right??
I'm tired of this back and forth. I feel sorry for the Jury.
Hughes was hired for her willingness to forego proper methods to conclude exactly what Amber wanted! It was Amber controlling the narrative all the time by feeding these information selectively to Hughes.
Hughes is still serving up word salad.
Thanks because she gets paid by the hour
Dr. Hudges’s credentials will not save her reputation and career. It is impossibly hard to defend a liar when you have to lie yourself.
Hughes just fell for AH lies and Dr Currie didn’t fall for her BS
lol I OBJECT! I've never heard a psychologist make their own questionaire and present the results to the court and call it "VALID" without using the standardized test... IT'S NOT JUST ACCURATE as a CHECKLIST ISN'T A TEST.. The manipulation . 🤣🤮
But she didn't do that.
I'm still thinking how much they charge for different kinds of lie they tell to the court.😅😅
Dr. Hughes mentioned in her first testimony that either she or someone within her department team administered the tests to Amber, she had accessed all the tests from the others. Could she have missed something by not being personally present during many of these tests?
She would have done the clinical interviews. I imagine that someone else probably administered self-reported scales like the BDI or PCL.
Elaine kept calling her Dr Curry 😂
That's how much dr curry's testimony threatens her. Living rent free in her head.
Feels like the main characters of game of thrones all coming together for the main event lol
Hughes II 'This Time it's Personal' 😆
Still a defensive unlikeable Karen
We all know she over exaggerates!! How does Dr Hughes not see this Disturbing!! She wasn’t struggling with anything except her own acting out & gaslighting Johnny!!
not her again
I´ve got the feeling that psychological diagnosis is just too complicated even for the people who call themselves experts O.o I mean how is it possible that two highly qualified people can discredit each other like that? Pretty strange...
Agreed...but Money...that's how 😕
Well they are very nuanced. And therefore easily misused. The average psychologist will have no personal interest in getting specific results. In that case it isn't even that complicated
You need to have critical thinking skills. Fortunately, a lot of what they have said can actually be verified by a lay person who looks up google scholar, but you need to understand what you read.
There's not a lot on this video that will be found to be untrue. Although Dr Hughes' writing of data on the CAPS5 was atypical, it didn't change the scoring (writing on the left, or top, or right, is irrelevant and almost desperately childish to point out). The CAPS5 isn't a standardised test like the WAIS-IV for intelligence testing. What Dr Hughes said about the malingering scales of M-FAST and ATR of the TSI, and the incorrect interpretation of Dr Curry's MMPI (before she was cut off by the lawyer) can be verified as well. In other words, Dr Curry's conclusion was wrong.
Lol wow. She is BIG MAD😂
Defensive much?🤣
YOU CANNOT DIAGNOSE A PERSON BASE ON WHAT THEY JUST TOLD YOU, You need to spend time with them in able to analyze someone's behavior. It take 3 weeks or to a month before I learned I have BPD!
I got diagnosed with BPD by accident, I had a court case in which I needed to prove I have autism (despite being diagnosed at 11) Came out with autism and BPD 🤣
You're right. BPD requires evidence over time and across contexts, as Dr Hughes pointed out in her previous examination.
@@everythinghaschanged42 I'm sorry to hear that :( Doctor sometimes failed to, that is why they need to spend more time with them.
It's quite abrasive to say to a jury... missing out on their own lives... for any reason, "I told you last time."
😬
To show that the lawyer is just asking for the sake of asking.
This woman's ego clearly has been bruised.
She kinda looks like the ogre version of Dr. Curry.
Did anyone else notice that Amber and her witnesses were constantly drinking water? They were so nervous, some even erratic, probably due to the lies they were spewing, compared with Johnny’s calm, professional and relaxed witnesses
🤡 “professional”
THAT'S SO FUNNY WATCHING AMBER'S EXPERT TRYING TO TEACH DR CURRY
She states AH was high in 4 categories including "affective instability", affective instability and "frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment" are 2 of 5 criteria for a BPD diagnosis per the DSM V. There are a total of 9 indicators listed. Curious what of the other 7 indicators Dr Hughes does or does not feel AH exhibits.
Dr Hughes explained previously that for someone to meet dsm criteria for BPD, the behaviors have to be present pervasively and across contexts. Otherwise a lot of presentations are mistaken for BPD, eg bipolar, ADHD, ASD, PTSD, complex PTS, acute stress disorder.
So even if she endorsed all 9 (unlikely), she wouldn't meet criteria.
@@Tamarahope77 Yes there is a lot of overlap in behaviors between several different diagnosis, and Axis 2 has high comorbidity. While I appreciate a Psychologist or Psychiatrist who doesn't use Bipolar Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder interchangeably, I am still curious which of the criteria indicators she feels do and do not apply to AH. I haven't seen any testimony or public records where she has gone through and discussed them individually, but if you have I would appreciate the link.
@@lunarforte1620 Dr Hughes didn't assess the symptoms of BPD because Amber's score on the PAI Borderline scale was in the normal range, so it wasn't clinically indicated. The PAI clinical profile should be considered valid because her scores on the validity scales were normal. Dr C said she scored highly in the positive impression management scale, but Dr H said it was still below clinical cut off. Interestingly even with some faking good, her Traumatic Stress score was clinically high. Hard to explain "no PTSD".
All the behaviors that Dr C attributed to Amber that she thought were BPD behaviors were better explained by trauma and as per DSM criteria, should not be considered BPD when they are not pervasive (not pre 2011) or across contexts. Eg she had an amicable parting with previous partner Tasya, an amicable parting with Elon (instigated by her, not Elon, possibly because she realized she wasn't into him the same way Elon was into her).
Dr Curry is smarter and hotter. Case closed.
Surly after this her practice or company will be investigated for not following standards of code??
3:26 "Objection, non-responsive"
"...I think it's very responsive"
Even if I don't like this lady I gotta say that made me laugh
Why are ambers “experts” so slovenly and unprofessional??
Amber can't help herself she has to look directly at the camera she's so in love with the camera
Girl bye
You're going to court or you've important notes for a court case and you refuse to fill out all the relevant parts because you didn't want to ? At best Lazy, Biased and Unprofessional....Fail on every level
She doesn't seem like an expert at all. Really snarky and rude and downright annoying to listen to.
How many fake blondes is this trial going to have
I hate how Amber had her head held so high during this..
this lady is so full of it. she obviously has a professional interest in defending her own capabilities when she's been taken down so thoroughly in public.
I’ve tried avoiding making remarks about amber’s face but, I can’t contain it anymore. When they talked about her abusive conduct she was smirking and cold as
Ice, but now when her psychiatrist talk about her being victim she’s all about looking sad and forlorn
This is a whole lot of "No you!".
idk man Dr. Curry seems much more impartial and credible
I know she did not want to come back. This wasn't worth the money
This woman is not a fan of men ...hence the fact she has never dealt with male victims. ....
I hope its clear now that being an "expert" doesn't mean jack
Funny she didn’t have her note today
Ambers faces….the many faces of evil - show her totally disengaged. She gives zero Fs…
We have all seen Amber's behavior, sometimes they don't match what she is saying, imagine what she does when no one sees her. She might have PTSD but there something very wrong with this woman despite whatever diagnosis they called it by.
am i the only one who notice that amber is again copying dr.curry's hair style from yesterday?
All of amber heard psychologists witness is always looking in the other side and that is always sign of hypocrites