How Card Designed Changed from Base Set to Pokémon TCG Pocket

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  • Опубликовано: 5 янв 2025

Комментарии • 127

  • @jimmybradley6318
    @jimmybradley6318 День назад +122

    I like that Magikarp’s Leap Out is reminiscent of the strategy from the R/B/Y games where you would lead with Magikarp, but immediately switch out in order to farm Exp.

    • @retrokoh
      @retrokoh 5 часов назад +3

      It's a great callback, and is also an excellent free switch for whenever you NEED to start with Magikarp (or it gets Sabrina'd in) and get it out immediately.

  • @numbuh1507
    @numbuh1507 2 дня назад +248

    I think the reason Kadabra specifically was one of the Pokemon chosen to have its classic base art recycled was because of the infamous lawsuit by Uri Geller, which caused the Pokemon to not see any TCG appearances for almost 20 years.

    • @RobotnikPlngas
      @RobotnikPlngas 2 дня назад +46

      He really tried to sue over a bent spoon?

    • @mikeobama69
      @mikeobama69 2 дня назад

      @@RobotnikPlngasYes until 1 year ago

    • @The_Jho
      @The_Jho День назад +29

      @@RobotnikPlngasYes

    • @gillablecam
      @gillablecam День назад +2

      ​@@RobotnikPlngas in Yuri Geller's defence, Kadabra's Japanese name is ”Yungerer" so they weren't subtle about it.
      In his offence, it's not libel and they weren't trying to sell Pokémon based on Yuri Geller's brand and image. So he really didn't have a leg to stand on.

    • @Meca-Mat
      @Meca-Mat День назад +31

      ​@@RobotnikPlngas I mean, it did somewhat work since Pokémon couldn't print any new one. They released the expansion called 151 which includes every Pokémon from Gen 1 as a celebration for Kadabra's return.

  • @brandonmark1487
    @brandonmark1487 2 дня назад +90

    You forgot to include the 1998 Promo Kangaskhan. That came out before any of the cards you discussed came out in the USA and definitely was around during the first generation of play.

  • @1bwash
    @1bwash 2 дня назад +60

    I wonder if the pocket mobile game jumped too quickly into high HP and high damage cards, all while oversimplifying base/not fully evolved cards. I think they had the mentality of wanting people to spend money to get those rare cards and sweep matches with. I wish there were more ways to survive and pull off wins through strategy, even if your draws weren't giving you the last line in your evolution.

    • @7StarKarma
      @7StarKarma 2 дня назад +24

      Oh I agree. They shoulda introduced Ex cards much later- having them right away made competitive play super depressing since they’re the only cards that matter.

    • @DanteFree-nu8qe
      @DanteFree-nu8qe 2 дня назад +10

      That'll definitely change as time goes on. With so few sets available, the meta is very bottle necked

    • @trevorburton3290
      @trevorburton3290 2 дня назад +14

      I think it’s actually quite balanced. While decks that don’t feature EXs aren’t the Meta you can have a lot of success with a few decks that don’t have any even against the strongest decks. Due to the quick nature of games you’re never guaranteed a victory even with the strongest decks. After the release of the last pack there are quite a few non EX options so I anticipate it will continue to be a thing the more cards are added to the pool.

    • @jprec5174
      @jprec5174 День назад +6

      It had to because of ex pokemon. While there is a meta the game is pretty balanced right now. Mewtwo was probably a bit too strong at launch but with the introduction of mew the big one shot enemies are now balanced with a mew threat.

    • @jprec5174
      @jprec5174 День назад +4

      @@7StarKarmanot true non ex decks can still be competitive and are probably better decks to play in random games because you're more flexible against opponents that hit your weakness

  • @anjuju2
    @anjuju2 2 дня назад +15

    I love how the Slowpoke/Bro cards stats mirror its game stats
    High HP as a Tank
    High energy costs aka Slow to Attack & Retreat

  • @DKQuagmire
    @DKQuagmire 2 дня назад +44

    If we are talking about generation 1 Pokemon cards, you forgot Magnemite. More specifically, the Promo Magnemite, which reuses artwork from Team Rocket. The expansion came immediately after Fossil, and before the Gym leaders expansions.

  • @zundra616
    @zundra616 2 дня назад +44

    When talking about the gen 1 Pikachu you say it paralyzes, but the effect is recoil.

  • @Zakading
    @Zakading 2 дня назад +21

    I find it funny how most of the time the actual main TCG is talked about, it just refers to base set and "at the time", as if that wasn't still the case in the modern game lol

    • @Nelsito99
      @Nelsito99 День назад +6

      Back then types worked very differently like how ghost, poison, and psychic are all under psychic while now poison is grouped with dark in darkness and psychic and ghost is grouped with fairy under psychic with the weakness eluding to it non tcg type as the kadabara shown is psychic that is also weak to psychic due to ghost sharing the type but in tcgp is weak to darkness so that its not weak to its own type and fairy mon are weak to metal

  • @Xion_Stellar
    @Xion_Stellar 17 часов назад +5

    I hope that you make a 2nd part to this video once the 2nd Expansion set and the 2nd mini expansion set comes out for Pocket

  • @Jesse-lv2yo
    @Jesse-lv2yo День назад +1

    I don't know why I watched this, I had all this information unintentionally memorized. Glad you're sharing info with those who weren't around for the original TCG though!

  • @MrDonJuanquis
    @MrDonJuanquis День назад +20

    I would have loved for then to not put any EX on the first sets so people could use their favorite pokemon.
    Decks are just revolving around EX, except for Blaine and Dark decks since they have no EX

    • @morschko1112
      @morschko1112 День назад +3

      Dragonite

    • @michaelbesser5348
      @michaelbesser5348 День назад +3

      Golem Druddigon would likely be at the top of the meta in a metagame with no ex.
      I could see some interesting stuff come in a no-ex Pocket, though, like an Electric deck with the Lt Surge package that runs new Raichu or a Misty deck that uses an alternate topend like normal Blastoise or something.

    • @canaldecasta
      @canaldecasta 22 часа назад +2

      Imo EX cards were always a mistake.

    • @DrDrao
      @DrDrao 17 часов назад

      ​@@michaelbesser5348there's a noex community room (Type NOEX in private matches), and while golem is one of the better decks, it's not the best by any means. It's slow to get online and still gets 2hkod by most decks.
      Druddigon is absolutely way too good for NOEX, however.

  • @HopeP0H
    @HopeP0H 10 часов назад +2

    The power level (atk/hp) and over reliance on ex’s reminds me of gen 5 tcg

  • @NintendoMasterNo1
    @NintendoMasterNo1 2 дня назад +3

    Liked the video just due to the abundant use of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky music

  • @uumuu8576
    @uumuu8576 День назад

    Great video! Love your usage of PMD music, subbed

  • @97SuperGabri
    @97SuperGabri День назад

    Great video, subscribed hoping for more like this in the future

  • @johnmichaelreyes4577
    @johnmichaelreyes4577 2 дня назад +15

    If there will be a format of 1 - 3 diamonds rarity cards only deck in pocket there will be a more variation in gameplay as the game itself was mostly dominated by EX cards making some other cards useless.

    • @broomybroomybroomy
      @broomybroomybroomy 2 дня назад +5

      It definitely feels bad to manage to knock out a celibi EX and get 2 prizes, only to get another celebi EX behind it immediately afterward that gets erika'd twice. It is almost impossible to win without them
      I would support a no EX format

    • @Slayer8957
      @Slayer8957 2 дня назад +1

      there are EX cards of almost every pokemon. Plus there are still GX, Lv.X, Tag-Team, VSTAR, and Terra in the tcg that will eventually be released into Pokemon Pocket. All those pokemon card types are worth 2 or even 3 knockout points. Meta is never going to ever be dominated by a budget deck.

    • @darronsutton6900
      @darronsutton6900 2 дня назад +3

      We already have a community driven no ex format. This is possible

    • @broomybroomybroomy
      @broomybroomybroomy День назад +1

      @@darronsutton6900 you don't get event match wins for them

    • @mikojYT
      @mikojYT День назад

      But there are decks without EX cards that are playable? I got the 5 win streak with a Koga deck... I also know some that did it with Blaine decks

  • @jaylee9552
    @jaylee9552 20 часов назад

    I only clicked on this vid because the thumbnail. Ah a holo first edition hitmonchan, that was the very fist holo i ever got back when i was a kid. Still have it actually... good memories

  • @RancorSnp
    @RancorSnp День назад +2

    I'll be honest - I enjoy pocket, but it does bother me HARD that having 2 attacks is considered a luxury in this game. Like why.

  • @levipeterken4020
    @levipeterken4020 9 часов назад

    Do you know if there is a video I can watch that goes over the rules of regular TCG, and how it has evolved (and the rules have changed) with each expansion?

    • @ColonelZeta
      @ColonelZeta 5 часов назад

      I watched a video from Ruby Retro the other day going over just that.
      ruclips.net/video/w9Rz8uu98Z0/видео.htmlsi=sJeeGdaW-L8Hcsc7

  • @Nnif_Boots47
    @Nnif_Boots47 День назад

    I'd love to see more in this series, going over other generations cards.

  • @Roger-r2j
    @Roger-r2j День назад

    I loveeee the holographic background omg

  • @notecolt2742
    @notecolt2742 2 дня назад +1

    real informative video! love it

  • @loopiloop
    @loopiloop 17 часов назад

    I played TCG and went like "Man, I wish I was playing Pokémon TCG on GBC rn". Then I realized I might as well just do that.

  • @raidenb4512
    @raidenb4512 14 часов назад +1

    I worked on several games during my career. And the Game design of TCG Pocket is a pure mess.
    They screwed the spirit of the original TCG. The main focus of the game is not to play but to collect cards…

  • @benkindel9311
    @benkindel9311 2 дня назад +2

    I don't think it's true that all low rarity cards reuse existing artwork, is it? I collect artwork from the artist Banana Jerky and their only piece of art in TCG Pocket is the Cramorant from Mythical Island, which as far as I can tell is new.
    Maybe it's from a niche Japanese language release I couldn't find or something, but Banana Jerky's website seems to say that it's a new piece of art specifically for TCG Pocket. Which makes me assume a lot of the other art I don't recognize on the low rarity cards might be new too.

    • @benkindel9311
      @benkindel9311 2 дня назад

      Correction, Banana Jerky also illustrated the gold star Ditto apparently, it just didn't show up when I searched because I guess I don't own one. That doesn't change my main point, I just said Cramorant was their only piece and I guess that's not true.

  • @doopness785
    @doopness785 День назад +2

    I think you should have also included Trainer cards from then and now

  • @Lafter-san
    @Lafter-san День назад +5

    5:06 but Raichu does not OHKO Mewtwo ex. Most likely you will use Lt. Surge the turn you'll attack with it, so you won't be able to use Giovanni for the added 10 points of damage.

    • @michaelbesser5348
      @michaelbesser5348 День назад +4

      Not by itself, but Raichu can easily KO Mewtwo with chip. Both Electabuzz (through the bench hitting effect) and Dedenne (through paralysis, albeit coin-based) can help to bring Mewtwo into lethal range of Pikachu.
      Going off of the data we have, Pikachu with Zebstrika and Zapdos, no Raichu, seems to be unfavored (which adds to the rock-paper-scissors meta we have now with the top 3 decks, where Pikachu beating Gyarados, Gyarados beating Mewtwo, and Mewtwo beating Pikachu), while Pikachu with Zebstrika and Raichu is still unfavored, but is a lot closer to an even matchup.

  • @mielthesquid6536
    @mielthesquid6536 Час назад

    I don't get why they now croped the picture yet they have so much more space because they reduced the attacks space, the cards looks empty and dull, they could have used bigger illustrations.

  • @Nnif_Boots47
    @Nnif_Boots47 День назад

    I'm not sure of the official classifications, but Abra, Sandshrew, and Gastly are part of the 3 vending machine series. They only include first generation Pokemon so I think they would technically be first generation cards. Also, the promo Magnimite is from the Rocket set. The parent/child Kangaskhan might also count.

  • @ChronoSquare
    @ChronoSquare День назад

    Everyone talks about that base set rare and valuable Charizard card, where it looks absolutely laughable compared to any cards even a decade after its release... Holy cow. I had absolutely zero recollection at just how abysmally low the values were for original TCG.
    I guess i didn't even look at the cards i have when i discovered my old collection a few years ago!

  • @Sl0b0nMyBob7
    @Sl0b0nMyBob7 День назад

    Off topic a bit id really like a longer form of play wether it's 40-60 card decks and 6 point games or i have an idea for double battles which i think would only work in the card style of pocket. Things are fast enough to run a doubles using 4 card points to win and would allow new type and card combos for decks

    • @JRC2397
      @JRC2397 День назад

      I think they don't want to compete with their other tcg game

  • @UndergroundMadeon
    @UndergroundMadeon 2 дня назад

    Fun video to watch! Thank you.

  • @nefariosgliscor
    @nefariosgliscor День назад

    Volcarona can hit any Pokémon and deal 80 damage after discarding 2 energy, so it can also obliterate a benched Pokémon like Magikarp.

  • @Mage_Nichlas_
    @Mage_Nichlas_ День назад

    Seeing these old arts ripped and put on a digital card that had other changes made just feels so wrong.
    130 HP on Slowbro?! A bland Hitmonchan art without the cool foil effect even being considered? They really felt that Super Psy and Psyshock needed changing?
    And come on, they don't even have the iconic yellow borders.

  • @jprec5174
    @jprec5174 День назад +1

    Pocket has a pretty tight balance, but right now basic pokemon with like 70-80 hp and 1 energy 30 damage attacks are suppose to be super fast and take advantage of weakness but are not very useable.

    • @abledkey
      @abledkey День назад

      It's not bad considering it's a low cost fighting type that can 2 hit ko the popular wall Kangaskan.

    • @jprec5174
      @jprec5174 День назад

      @ in theory it's a good card if you know what deck/cards your opponent is playing. In random matchups cards like it just don't compare to farfetch/kang/drud which are generally better against many decks.

    • @abledkey
      @abledkey День назад

      @@jprec5174 I mean a lot of decks play colorless pokemon that are weak to fighting whether it be Tauros, Chansey, or Kangaskan.

    • @jprec5174
      @jprec5174 День назад +1

      @ which is why drud is so popular as a wall. You play hitmonchan and that's 4 turns to kill drud which means chan will kill itself and drud and that's if they dont heal. That's just not viable in this meta.
      Again, if you KNOW your opponent is playing normal/lightning pokemon then yea hitmonchan is great.

    • @michaelbesser5348
      @michaelbesser5348 День назад

      ​@@jprec5174Even without Druddigon, I think the bench sniping utility of Hitmonlee would be a lot stronger than Hitmonchan. Though, I guess, without Druddigon, we might even see more aggressive leads like Mankey into Primeape.

  • @NPC-W
    @NPC-W День назад

    I thought you will mention Aerodactyl (fossil) and Aerodactyl ex (Mythical Island)

  • @allihavearepasta-basedthou2890
    @allihavearepasta-basedthou2890 День назад

    Still don't know why they had to crop certain images. I prefer the old art and feel they botched it a bit.

  • @danielcooke9974
    @danielcooke9974 День назад

    It will get boring if they don't offer a different battle opinions in the future, I know the devs say its more about collecting cards but main reason people want the cards is for easier battle wins, I think the cards will adapt as the games develop

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 День назад

    Until I picked up TCGP pretty much the last time I played was Base set/Fossil/Jungle as a kid lol. So anyone who is some gen Z kid that wasn't even alive in '99 watching this now, the cards you are seeing is the game as I knew it pretty much lol. Imagine seeing modern cards when those are the ones I am used to, cards like Hitmonchan and Scyther being the powerhouses.
    (I keep saying "pretty much" because technically I played the online pokemon TCG a few years back for a VERY short time, like not enough to have much but the very starter cards they give you. So it isn't a PERFECT transition from base to TCGP, but still was rather shocking.)

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 День назад

      Also technically I played slightly into Team Rocket before quitting and moving to Magic, and was at least somewhat familiar with the first gym leaders set, so also a very tiny bit more experience.

  • @katfrog1
    @katfrog1 День назад

    Hey is like to leave a suggestion for your thumbnails, try to add a stroke to your text, it's kinda hard to read the text that says meta defining and unplayable in this on lol

  • @YoutubeAiGeneratedComments
    @YoutubeAiGeneratedComments День назад

    Make more ptcgp to ptcg videos. Huge untapped market rn.

  • @flossdaily9
    @flossdaily9 День назад +1

    hitmonchan has niche use not unplayable

  • @alagass6466
    @alagass6466 12 часов назад

    Is there a free online "classic" TCG? I used to dominate the popular meta decks with one of my own, I wouldn't mind trying it out on a greater scale than just the local groups at Toys T us and local book stores

    • @smoove9466
      @smoove9466 11 часов назад

      Nah and unfortunately won’t ever be Nintendo ain’t going for that

    • @obviousalias132
      @obviousalias132 11 часов назад

      There is Pokemon TCG Live which is f2p although I am not sure how viable that is. Also of note only relatively more recent sets are supported. But it could be worth checking out.

  • @johnmarksmithmiller9895
    @johnmarksmithmiller9895 2 дня назад +4

    Feels like they've ruined what makes pokemon cards so appealing by simplifying them so much. Much of the fun is reading the cards.

  • @7StarKarma
    @7StarKarma 2 дня назад +4

    No, pikachu is not clapping back at Hitmonchan with a 20 damage move.

    • @An_Entire_Lime
      @An_Entire_Lime День назад +5

      He specifically said "Evolve and crack back"
      And both versions of Raichu can one shot Hitmonchan

    • @elneco4654
      @elneco4654 День назад

      ​@@An_Entire_Lime Only GA Raichu can, MI Raichu does 60 damage + 20 to all benched (Hitmonchan has 80HP). And also, both require three energies, so unless you run Surge and Magneton to charge faster Hitmonchan can two-shot GA Raichu (100HP) and three-shot MI Raichu, surviving one hit.

  • @DKQuagmire
    @DKQuagmire 2 дня назад +2

    Mythical Island Magikarp, reuses the same artwork as Base Set Magikarp.
    But unlike Base Set Magikarp doesn't have Tackle or Flail.
    It's new and only attack. Flop Out, just switches it to the bench with no damage.

  • @fortidogi8620
    @fortidogi8620 5 часов назад

    Hah! Minor typo in title, I win!

  • @mrscias-911
    @mrscias-911 6 часов назад

    and then come Celebi

  • @coin9584
    @coin9584 10 часов назад

    is bro colorlblind?

  • @michaelgrey1503
    @michaelgrey1503 День назад

    These guys are cool. 😎

  • @Nuisance_Bear
    @Nuisance_Bear 21 час назад

    What in the WORLD was up, IS STILL up, with the PTCG trying SO HARD NOT TO USE ANY MOVES from the video games??? Pikachu has gnaw, a move that does NOT exist in the video games, AND NEITHER DOES THUNDER JOLT. It's like what a knockoff card would have. But no, this was the official card. WHY? WHY THUNDER jOlT?!
    What was wrong with bite??? WHAT WAS WRONG WITH, GET THIS, THUNDERSHOCK???????
    WHAT THE FUCK IS SUPER PSY?
    WHAT THE FUCK IS A SPECIAL PUNCH?????????????
    DIZZY PUNCH???? wait that's a real move nvm

  • @BvngeeGvm
    @BvngeeGvm 11 часов назад

    You can tell the creators aren’t fans because they could have made the design look like the original release all the way around and didn’t. Every single fan would’ve wanted that.

  • @muhammadwajdy-kx4db
    @muhammadwajdy-kx4db 2 дня назад +1

    hello😊😊

  • @elinoris8047
    @elinoris8047 День назад

    0:59 uh.. no? The pokemon TCG of TODAY is vastly different from the TCG pocket of today. The deck sizes, amount of prize cards (or prize cards in general) and the energy system has stayed consistant in the regular tcg since base set

  • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
    @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli 2 дня назад

    Not a huge fan of how they watered down the complexity of some cards.
    Considering the best decks in Pocket utilitize Pokémon Powers that completely take over games. The only vanilla strategies being ones that use a gym leader Supporter.

    • @jprec5174
      @jprec5174 День назад

      It's watered down for now. They still have yet to introduce burn and confusion (although mythical weezing's attack works like confusion).

    • @An_Entire_Lime
      @An_Entire_Lime День назад +1

      It's the first set for an inherently simpler version of the game.
      What did you expect?

  • @HRBART
    @HRBART День назад

    Turn 3 turn 4?
    No man, this ai rng so rigged. I got OTK by Articuno misty.
    Mean while celebi throwing my coins like a ninetails and my misty is lore accurate. Because she leaves me on red by not giving me head ever.

  • @bradenborman4396
    @bradenborman4396 2 дня назад

    This video is unwatchable with that background

  • @ScytherKB
    @ScytherKB День назад

    It’s def not the strongest deck 😂 stop capping

  • @probablyanotherfun
    @probablyanotherfun 2 дня назад

    bro the real tcg sucks x|D

  • @aa-tx7th
    @aa-tx7th 17 часов назад

    at its peak, between fossil and base set 2, pokemon tcg rivaled even MTG's peak after the third set if the first Ravnica block
    now pokemon cant even approach MTG right now in any category even tho MTG has never been lower in quality or balance 😭😭😭
    well except for Honelands i guess but modern MTG seems hellbent on k!lling itself 😭😭😭

  • @aa-tx7th
    @aa-tx7th 17 часов назад

    pokemon tcg got really sh!t with the introduction of ex cards (or whatever was the first "draw 2 prizes" poke was) and it had already been declining since the neo set
    then it slowly got better and better and now pocket is a close second to the original pokemon tcg game boy color game in terms of fun, speed, and balance. the ONLY thing pocket has over that GBC game is the easy multiplayer duels. and of course pocket takes massive Ls for the predatory and greedy FtP microtransaction bs and not just charging a flat fee for the whole game
    PTCG is still not nearly as good as it was when Gym Leaders 2 came out or especially the absolute peak, Fossil, but its legit better than YGO at least
    low bar I know lol

    • @obviousalias132
      @obviousalias132 11 часов назад

      I don't see how the monetization of TGCP is worse than the monetization of the regular TCG. It could even be argued to be more consumer friendly.