Diablo 4 - Best Way To Save Your Gold: Tips & Tricks
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
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Here I want to quickly summarize my process in deciding which items are worth investing into and which ones are bottomless pits of gold.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:25 Enchanting
01:34 Tip 1
03:40 Affix Weights
06:15 Tip 2
12:52 Tempering Opportunity
15:34 Summary
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This insane affix weighting just makes a loot filter all the more needed
true, wish i could at least recolor useful legendaries like in last epoch
Or just remove hp/dex/str/int rolls from affix pool at all. Problem solved. D4 don't need loot filter. (even more, loot filter is against direction of game design). 'average D4 user' dev said just picks 4 basic skills and use them (according to Adam)
@@mapron1 there's a lot of skills in the game man, you would see only the 4 you want to pick up, who wants to check all their items, i don't even pick up anything but legendary+ since lvl 65, also filter would be optional and not mandatory, literally all players win
Or stop with the slot machines and implement an actual crafting system where you collect materials to build components to then build what you need.
@@quelvix Well then game quickly become 'solved', in few hours.
I feel like it would be really beneficial for them to show the percent chance to get each stat from a reroll. Personally, if I were to look at those percentages, it would be a strong deterrent to not attempt rolling that item for something like + skills.
True I think the +skills are insanely rare compared to the other ones, so keeping base items with skills and rerolling other stats is the way to go currently.
Why the community hasn't made these tables yet?
@@Thamior2311it probably requires a lot of testing and gold that people just don’t have
@@Amp274 I think if you gather like 20 ppl and just do it as you play you can have pretty solid data soon. We don't need extra precision.
People datamined uber uniques drop rates since beta; I also used scripts to unpack D4 data when we were doing cow level hunt. It's not like people testing in game this stuff. (I wanna warn you you need to be very advanced user / understand Python a bit etc to start with data mining. )
I am almost 100% positive, that enchantment list is sorted with higher possibility at the top and lowest at the bottom. It is how it was in Diablo 3, and it seems to be the rule here as well.
In almost inclined to believe this cause I never in my life see cdr on helms
@schijan6932because there’s 5x as many of them
@schijan6932 Could just be that there are 5 resistances so even with a lower weight your still more likely to hit a random res than an all res.
@@theolong6689 Exactly. There are probably "sets" of affixes that all have the same chance of rolling, and those are listed together. Resistances are probably one of those "sets", so if you roll a resistance, it's 5/6 chance of being an individual resist and 1/6 chance it's all res.
All Res all/cdr/crit dmg (weps)/+skills (pants/boots/armor) all seem to be the much harder things to roll for.
I tend to save items with those already on them at a good high roll and reroll for life/main stat/crit%/AS/etc (all much easier to obtain)
This explains soooooo much, and has now become my biggest pet peeve of the season.
Great video. This really helped clarify the strategy around what loot to save and how to enchant/temper.
Very helpful tips, thanks!
Thank you for highlighting things that I had not realized. Really great advice!
I am ok, when it drops in this way, but when you want to roll a new stat the priority should be ignored.
There are a few terrible things:
Gloves with Greater affix: if I found some it has the stupid Life on Hit - terrible. (Happens few times now, 3 greater affixes on gloves > Life on Hit, Life, Main stat - its just trash)
Rolling cooldown on a Item is terrible expensive
Rolling a passive or +Ranks is nearly impossible
Didn't know about clicking that icon to see possible outcomes. Neat.
Very good tips Wudi. Thanks!
Thanks for talking so much about affix weighting. I noticed this was the case, but people on Reddit LOVE to argue with me and say "affixes aren't weighted, you have no PROOF of that." Now I can point them to your video! Thanks Wudi ^^
Always appreciate your insights thank you I'll keep that in mind.
Thx for this information. Keep up the good guides work 😊
Great video. Thanks wudi
I hate bricking through bad tempering rolls.
Very very bad design
Me: "OMG an item with 3 greater affixes!!!"🤩
Tempering: "I don't think so kid. Get rid of that sh*t"🤨
@@michaelhughes657 it is actually good design. you cannot use 1 item forever for every build. the other way would be bad design. you would not need to farm items anymore after having one that works for a few builds. See weapons. One weapon fits many builds. You would stop farming weapons as soon as you get one 925 with main stat, life and a useful third stat. That my friend would be bad design.
Its good design ..trust me, if you havnt played lost ark, you dont know pain
There could be a rare scroll that drops and resets the tempers on an item
thx for the info. no wonder i can't roll away from max life even after spending millions of gold on eternal. it's infuriating when they've changed some hidden mechanics which is extremely costly without informing players.
Absolutely amazing video.
The key is as Wudi said - set a limit on how much you're willing to pay per enchant. When it reaches that limit, let it go. Get back to playing and something just as good or even better will drop. Maybe put it in your stash in case they make some changes or you literally have money to burn and nothing better to waste it on. In all likelihood you will find something better before that happens, and you won't have wasted all your gold.
Tempering first is also absolutely key.
thanks a lot. this was helpfull :)
Thank you for the info
Such a good video wudi. I started noticing this when I was trying to roll cdr on helms, you might as well forget about it😂
God send of a video, thank you!
Enchanting also gives very few options per roll. It's soul crushing.
great tips
Awesome video.
i miss the days of priority enchanting. Helms got CDR, gloves got crit and attack speed... amulets got CDR... now its a nightmare. By some miracle i rolled +3 frozen orb on my gloves, only to brick it at the temper haha.
Ouch ;(
Yeah I learned the hard way to temper first after doing the same thing to a two handed weapon
I literally have the best possible amulet (without any greater affixes on it) only to not get any of the best in slot tempering rolls on it... It was +8CDR, +8 crit chance. And I rolled the best in slot passive for my build (albeit only a +1 roll). Now I basically bricked the best Item I found this season...
Having fun right? 😂
This is pretty much why I’m just selling my Greater items instead of crafting myself, RNG is a joke
Would love to see video on how to trade and tips next!
More bounties from the tree need to be present in hell tides besides the normal kil monster ones
Lvl 87 rogue and I haven’t seen a single pair of gloves with ranks to barrage or a single chest piece with ranks to dark shroud. Best I could find was gloves with ranks to core skills.
Enchanting is the reason I’ll end up quitting this season. Been loving the season overall, but I’m well into endgame now with a solid build. I can NOT get affixes I need to roll at all, and I’ve been trying so hard that I’m out of angelsbreath and am being forced to go farm Helltides for an hour or so at a time to have a few re-roll chances. When items have like 25 things they can roll, you only get 2 options per roll, and they’re weighted, it just feels too unreliable to be enjoyable in my experience. For example, I need +ranks to envenom on my neck, and I haven’t seen that affix a single time all season despite seeing hundreds of legendary necks and trying to enchant it
And at the world boss you inspect other druids and they all have +envenom and you are like "WTF mate."
Wow thanks for showing the Possible Affixes @ 5:40 - I did not know that button existed
I didnt know you could click and see the possibilities per affix option. Thats so helpful lol
I get doing primary and life on weapons (given their tiny affix pool) and defensive armor pieces but it just makes items like gloves, necks, and rings LESS interesting than last season imo. Needs some tuning to make some of the slots feel special and different.
i didnt know enchanting was weighted. awesome tips and video
Great vid, Ive been investing 150 m in a 3 ga helm trying to roll the bad stat into CDR without success. Ill just abandon it and wait until i get a cdr ga one
Been rolling a ton trying to get cooldown reduction. Wish I had known it was a rare one
Can you do a video about GA farming? Is Helltide boss the best or is there a more efficient way?
To make the region progress interesting again, they could raise the gold amount you get from 15.000 to 15.000.000 ...
Who f cares about Region progress....
@@Metallicahardrockerfor 15mil? I’d go clear a region again tbh, that’s not counting any extra you get from OBJs it’s called incentives. Blizz used to know how to implement them allegedly
Im not gonna check all my legendaries without GA. It's exactly the same issue we had with yellows...we need a loot filter 🙃
But thanks for the tips anyway !
They need to put % chance details next to the possible rolls.
Wudijo, could you explain what are odds when tempering/mastercrafting criticals, I've reset masterworked item 6 times and it crits on main stat 5 times in a row and not on Dodge, or temper stats which i need.
Have tried rolling fridge passive on amulet and rolled over 400 times on many items till it reach 2 mil per roll and never seen it once .
Same with +Golem Mastery on chest for me... starting to think it doesn't exist I'm gonna go double check that drop down box lmao
basically, the further down the stat is on the enchanting possibility list the harder it is to get. Seems to be weighted top to bottom.
Finding cool down or armor or lucky hit to apply vulnerable on a ring or armor is the bane of my existence. Letting the loan trying to re-roll it.. also tempering keeps breaking my items. A refuses to give me berserk damage and just keep giving me damage while using wrath of the berserker. Like five rolls back to back just the same temper stat over and over again. When there's only three to choose from I still get the same one over and over and over. I don't know if it's busted or they just need to give us like a few more rerolls like 10 in total because it's ridiculous how many times I get the same one for like four or five rolls in a row. I bricked I think like four weapons back to back that's how bad it was. I still use them till I can find another one and actually get the rolls I wanted even if they were crap rolls. It's just infuriating
Give up on the Lucky hit to apply vulnerable man. I changed double swing rune to apply vulnerable every hit, and added relentless berserker aspect to keep up my zerking. That said, I did find a ring with +2 fury per kill and 20% chance to apply vulnerable on lucky hit if you still need one.
@@youngwang5546 well that's very kind if you first off. I ended up finding one and then my buddy ended up having one that I promptly bricked. But my brother had a few lower level ones. So I got two that are just above 900 at the moment. And they both got pretty decent rolls. I was just complaining how they're a pain to find lol 😆
Super helpful info. I had no idea about the weights. Could it be that the stuff at the top of the list is higher weighted and lower on the list is low weight? Would make sense to me. Is it worth master working gear that does not have greater affixes? I am afraid to invest a lot into an item just to find something better. Also how can you even tell what is preferable? You used the example of ranks to skill vs greater affix crit. Which one is actually better. My guess would be the greater affix crit but i honestly just don't even know what stats are better at this point even when using build guides because they usually only show BIS stuff that you will never get so how do I know when I have something that is good but not BIS.
I have a feeling you might be able to use gold-trade sites, to see which affixes sell for the most Gold for your class🤷♂️
Omg Wudi's rogue looks like Arya Stark
I suspected weights were added to affixes. They should be displayed in the preview window when enchanting.
What is the most active/best website to sell D4 items? Specially for Console players?
they should consider making items with all 3 stats greater affixes with a red beam like primals from D3, I think it would be better than the little asterisk mark, and they could also just have a red border and background in the inventory. make drops great again!
My focus temper is always bonkers so happy hunting all
Oh, can i enchant the item if i already did masterworking upgrade? Didnt know that i can enchant the item more than once 😅
My biggest problem is angelbreath 🙈
Try to speedfarm NM Dungeons.
drop mostly from the end of side objective chest so don't skip out on side objective in NM or event in HT
Map events always 10 angel drops 😊
I think they are going to change that. Just a feeling
If I were to guess why the rolls have "weights" is probably due to how many possible outcomes of the same affixes there is in that pool of things that can come out while skill increase has like 2 or 3 possible outcomes.
I am pretty sure, the order it shows the possible affixes is the same order of the weights of the individual affixes.
I dumped 20 milion enchanting into finding out its nearly impossible. Thanks for tip #2
can you get a gold shrine, teleport to tree, then turn in to get more gold?
Still trying to find a glove with plus to frozen orb, I found one with plus to all core skills for now
The fact that rerolling is capped under 10 million per reroll is great, the fact that it takes angel dust is not
I’ve been out of angel dust for two days and can’t play the game the way I want anymore
it is a deterrent to those that buy gold on third party sites for real money. so that they need to actually farm something.
if you have gold and run out of those you probably are one of these, or you made some crazy trade and have gold that way.
that or you never play helltide?
@@mattbeetv9313 the difficulty is angel dust cant be bought or traded and the alchemist cant turn other herbs into it anymore. Helltides drop alot of them but having to go specifically get some sucks
All enchanting rolls should be even chance imo
i WISH i could do a Uber boss, like Durial, and then i could use a legendary roll to pick the crafting i wanted on my item.
This means i would need to farm items to spawn multiple bosses, and so on. That wouldn't be too OP i think.
Or just have a “reset tempering” option….wtf blizzard /wooooosh
The game need in game trading market similar like auction house in WoW it takes forever to post topics in Discord servers or trading pages especially when you are playing on controller/console,
after millions and millions of gold i have yet to find cdr on my helmet
when you temper to get movement speed, which group do you choose, Rogue Mobility or Natural Mobility?
One has more options iirc. Less options is better
i've noticed on barb for example (and probably same for the diff classes) is natural has less % than rogue or class - for example i'm sure i saw say 10% for natural but barb was 12.5% regardless of how small its a win.(this of course is when the values are built up from recipes)
@@kipz less option is 4, the other has 5 options but it has other two stat somewhat useful if you dont get the plain movement speed , the other such as Dark Shroud movement, or Stutter passive
found it super hard to roll cooldown affix
Hey guys, I finally got +2 golem chest. I spent 80mil (which was all my gold) to try to master work it and get that bonus. Is that even possible? Can you get that 4th bonus roll on "+2skil" affixes?
Wasted 80 Mio trying to get CR on a Helmet. Impossible. So sad, since it had a greater affix which I really needed.
Can you even get a attack speed on two-handed weapons? I've seen some people saying you can't get it anymore cuz they changed it from the PTR but I haven't heard anything officially. And I haven't got it on a single two-handed weapon
I feel pretty confident in saying NO, from the thousands of 2 handed swords I've looked at. Unless some class specific weapons can that don't drop for Necro.
@@xSayPleasex okay cool, I thought I was going crazy lol
I found gambling for equipment with skill rolls on it then work from there
Always temper first in my opinion. It's free and if it bricks you will save tons of gold. Enchanting first is risky.
How do you farm Angelbreath for rerolls; I never have any
I have a feeling it’s either event chests, or just Helltide chests in general🤷♂️
TLDR: try to find affix through natural drop instead of enchanting...
Wudi saving us from wasting Gold by spending 11 Million as a showcase
yea that is a good showcase as it immediately proves its a sinkhole
Grab all yellows an sell them... throw all Reds in the box to go tru later an sell all uniques basically
Awesome. So now I have to go back to inspecting every single item for rare affixes, rather than just keeping anything with a greater affix and vendoring/breakingdown the rest. SIGH. WEN LOOT FILTER?
i tried tempering first and added poison resistance to an item. Then when I went to enchant the same piece replacing another stat with shadow resistance,
it worked bit it also wiped out the poison resistance I already had on the item even though it was added via tempering. So i question the whole tempering first concept.
i always enchant first
Enchanting is more expensive and gold is already hard enough to come by. Always temper first. It's dirt cheap and if you brick an item you don't have to worry about potentially wasting tens of millions on enchanting.
Wait: your Occultist deleted an affix you gained through Tempering?
How is that even possible lol
I just spent 35mil tryna get cdr 😔 if only i saw this slightly sooner
I spent 500m and 900+ Angelbreath rolling for Frigid Finesse but nothing. Ended up salvaging this amulet with 2 great affix out of frustration. Temper and enchant roll chance is annoying.
I still haven't found an amulet for my necro with CR.....
I finally got one today. Bricked it in tempering.
I have one with a GA, but rolling ranks into it has been an absolute nightmare
Dropping stuff that is generally good is amazing for the early game and feels really good. But having uneven reroll chance is super unintuitive and very frustrating. Most people don't watch videos like this and have a huge disadvantage.
Yup that was me I have waisted millions of gold having no idea this was a thing.
Plus it puts the endgame item search back into a spot where some gear slots have 99%+ junk drop if rerolling for desired stats is impossible.
Some passives and skills is just impossible to roll, sadge.
Great video, thanks. i have been carefull with gold, so far never ran out and never farmed, and still have 70m. grinding my second character to 100.
It’s still impossible to find a good amulet in season 4. Getting a 2/3 is rare, rerolling for that third stat is extremely expensive, and if you brick it, you’ll have to wait forever until you get another one that’s worth using. I’ve upgraded the rest of my gear pieces 2-3 times in the last few days, and I’m still using a ehh amulet with a busted temper
Its extremely brutal to try and enchant for a rare affix. Not sure why they did that. Just very annoying. Forces you to run whispers. People have different awailable gametime. Dont want to spend all of it finding gold. That is actually the result.
My biggest tip for not spending gold is literally do not upgrade gear unless it's for a capstone. I'm not even in wt4 yet with close to 50 million before I started doing nightmare dungeons. I'm almost level 60 and getting ready for the wt4 capstone so I'll spend about two million re-rolling more than likely.
All you need for the capstones is to Temper. It is practically free and you can add a ton of flat damage increase. Do it on all the offensive slots and it will add a ton of damage to any build at the lower levels. You can also add a ton of flat health and armor increase. Makes moving to wt4 so easy its insane. I made the jump to wt3 at 35 and wt4 at 55 on two characters now using this strat.
Affixes weight SHOULD BE OBVIOUS. They should write it in game ffs, this is ridiculous.
I hate tempering, I bricked my almost perfect amulet!!! :(
I would say just sell all your best gear instead, and then save your personal Tempering for the slightly worse ones you have🤷♂️
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Loot filter still needed.
OMG totally forgot about enchanting, been playing hard mode to 100 without enchanting my gear
Honestly save your gold other than maybe the first 2-3 rerolls. It's not worth it until later with an endgame piece.
PLEASE always temper first, never enchant first.
They need to reduce the enchanting cost overall. It is ridiculous. I get having rare affixes, but in no universe should some roll between 4 and others roll between like the whole list. Enchanting has been the only thing making me not want to continue playing season 4 and that's sad.
Another solution is to leave rarer affixes like +skills or CDR (the bane of my existence) to the tempering system or even add a system to add something to your 4/8/12 masterworking to add a rare affix rather than just crit one.
Overall great vid Wudi! I wish I watched this before trying to roll CDR on a helmet.
On Playstation you cant reset youre masterworking, there is No Button for it...
And you cant Look for stats you could roll on youre items, its only in PC...
it feels like we still need loot filters to get those rare and ignore the crap
I'm working on my 4th 100 doing sorceress this time and gold is so dry 😭
yea no prob with veiled crystals lol
@@KevJaques yeah I've got thousands of those now
Forgotten souls too I'm sitting at 2300
i roll 2 GT armor to get skill lost 300M+ still didn't get that :
The best design is to give you the best items in every slot the moment you are in tier 4.
Nope
I didn't knew that you can masterwork items without GA lol
would be a waste as still too much gear being dropped, they've not really divulged all the info so we are only just getting to grips with it. one of the things they not doing is removing the current aspect out of the pool (so the same thing is not re-rolled and either way from this has different effects)
hello friend, if you have contact with blizzard, what do you think about offering them this to add to the game? 1) recycle 30 unique items = + 1 superior affix of the player's choice on a legendary. 2) recycle 60 unique items = 1 higher affix of the player's choice on a unique item. 3) recycle 100 unique items = 1 higher affix of the player's choice on uber unique. 4) recycle 150 unique items = 1 sublimated spark. good to you, thank you.
meanwhile yesterday i wasted 75mil rolling fuckin crit chance on a ring
Yes add that into the FIND ONLY pool, along with CDR for amu and helm, ANY +skills or passives. Probably some others too, just less desirable generally.
We need D4.DB like POE.DB…