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Diablo 4 - Which Uniques are OP in Season 4?
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- #Diablo4 #Guide #Season4 #wudijo
I am generally speaking for the change we see this season: the devaluation of unique items. There are still a few omnipotent choices, which I discuss in this video!
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00:00 Why Uniques Got Worse
05:54 The Best Uniques
12:10 Devaluation Is Correct
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Sorcerer - Mastery Skills are now also considered Core Skills. Mothers Embrace unique ring now works for Sorcerer mastery skills if that helps anyone's build =D
Are you sure about that? I haven't heard or read anything about that
@@dustinmosley5965 Basic info you can look up, shown weeks ago.
ohhhh. did not put that together. so that's cool.
that ring is still junk, though xD
@@dustinmosley5965
This was mentioned in patch notes for the ptr and mentioned in the campfire I think it's also already part of every build planner
Yes , they changed the tag to make mastery count as core skill so ball light would count as core skill for aspects.
Just clicked the vid to hear "in the grand scheme of things" 👍
Watch so many wudi vids I started implementing that phrase in my daily life
Take a shot
Somewhat simple solution for the unique problem. Introduce new mat called shard of resplended spark. This new item drops in the pit and allows you to unlock a 5th fixed or an affix of your choosing on the occultist. Also 10 shards combines into 1 full spark.
I wonder if they would consider salvaging regular uniques gives you like a piece of a resplendent spark, and maybe after salvaging like 25 uniques you can craft one resplendent spark. I think something like that would be kinda cool, even if it was like a separate material and after salvaging like 10 regular uniques you can craft any other regular unique you want
Can already get a resplendent spark every 3 or 4 hours
Lurkin pointed out something: Soulbrand is now pretty good. It was total trash before, but because it has Damage Reduction on it, it's stock has gone up. I was in the build planner and I was trying to get a damage reduction aspect on my chest for the Frozen Orb build (I already had a DR aspect on my helm) and it wasn't happening. Unless I mixed Blizzard with Frozen Orb. Soulbrand also gives lucky hit while you have a barrier - which is actually a free aspect. It definitely loses to Tyrael's Might for overall damage mitigation, but it's a solid pick. As a Sorc player it's BIS until I get Tyrael's might. DR is at a huge premium now.
The discussion around 18 minutes about the relationship between uniques and the end game was a piece of feedback I left during PTR. Uniques being bad kind of ruins the end game loop of doing activities to get mats for boss farming. They need to be desirable. Just adding a 5th affix and doing a pass on the powers would probably be enough to get at least one of them into many builds. Ubers also need a pass. Whether or not you use the Shako you spent dozens upon dozens of hours grinding for when it drops shouldn't really be a tough choice unless the build just needs the helm slot for something else like a Tempest Roar.
I feel like when there is a non-generic unique power associated with a build, that unique should be good enough to be used in that build. For example, the fireball staff shouldn't be so bad that fireball builds aren't using it.
Interesting to see The Oculus down in F Tier. On the PTR I had a version with like +20 to teleport which had me with hardly any cooldown. With speed being so important in The Pit it let me zoom around without having to sacrifice one enchant slot to the Teleport Enchant, instead taking something like firebolt along with frozen orb. Not sure it will ultimately be useful but was just shocked to see it clear at the bottom! Enjoy your videos, thanks for the content.
You can get teleport near infinite without it, that's the problem.
I am going just off the rails on S4 and building something that shouldn't work and just trying literally everything. I always stuck to what's good but I'm going for something just weird and seeing if I can make it work
That's how you make d4 fun. I made a andariel helm poison shred druid last season spamming poison nova it was cool
i think that they were just so bussy with the new item system that they didnt had time or idees how to rework the uniques to make them competetiv to the new items im sure they will get reworked in another season
great videos man :3
I think the next season will be „unique 2.0“.
I mean, on my Ball Lightning Sorc I have 8 uniques.
Just wand and orb to be non uniques.
That’s one extreme. Now they go into the complete opposite direction.
I think they should balance it more out.
It should be a really tough choice weather use a unique or not and their should always be a trade off.
And they should be huge play style changer.
Somewhat they only enhance right now a skill and not change it completely most of the time.
We still play mostly the same builds since four seasons then.
This is because they are focusing on crybabies and again going for the same mistake like in 2nd season, and I thought we all draw conclusions from last epoch failure.
so i too roll lightning sorc and have all uniques except staff. there ARE changes coming that were awesome on test: spear got a boost, you can now put 100% extra CL on staff, etc. i got a complete trash light sorc to 70k atk pwer in like 4 days. there is soooooooooooo much more depth coming, or i would be quitting until the expac
@@motherpigeon1582what are you even trying to say?
Who are those crybabies and what are they crying about?
Also what last epoch failure are you thinking about?
Not "Unique 2.0", but they will surely update and balance most if not all uniques.
I very much dislike the idea of tempering unique. It's both lazy and takes out the item tier identity.
Agree that uniques should be play style changer, this is why generic uniques Shako, Starless Sky and Tal Rasha ring are a huge mistake
Great video as always Wudijo! When I read the title of the video my first thought was "Not Frostburn..."
I can see Tyraels might being used to get mobs to attack you, especially for melee builds without a lot of range. Could be very good in helltide for example.
Andariels visage was the main item of the fastest clear of Abattoir of Zir
Oh whoa, do you remember why? I’m guessing Conceited aspect dmg-boost🤔
@@corpsefoot758 nah, it’s Ace’s double dipping poison shred druid. It aplies its poison damage with Andariel’s which is much better than other options like creeper.
It was really cool to get Azurewrath as a blood lance necro, especially getting a greater affix on attack speed. Being able to freeze entire groups of mobs and watching them all shatter is so satisfying.
Here’s my take on how to fix uniques
-when a unique drops, it drops at level 1 of 3. At level 1, it appears as it does here shown in the video.
-killing elites and bosses unlocks level 2 through 3
-each level increases the affixes on the unique. At level 3, the affixes are tripled.
-this itemization journey would take time, but would empower uniques to be competitive.
-the amount of elites and bosses required to level up the unique would be up for debate.
That sounds like Weaver's Will unique items in Last Epoch.
@@Lupin788 never played LE but it sounds like a decent idea at least
Remaking the uniques will be a next point that they will attend?
Was thinking this aswell. Some buffing, reworked effects or maybe higher statboosts from MW. Hopefully they do something with them sooner rather than later. It'd be sad if uniques just become trash in your inventory.
They should just let us temper the uniques, then it will be as nothing has changed, you still choose between the unique or legendary power. Now using uniques just ''feel bad'' because we know we are missing out on temper.
I agree with you. Uniques don't need tempers. They just need to be build specific with properties you can't get nowhere else.
So rework penitent greaves and such uniques that lost value into something more spectacular and build defining and it will be fine.
So stuff like "every time you kill a frozen distant monster, close monsters chilled by this item will be instantly frozen and take x25% cold damage for 2 seconds". Might be still crap, but at least it creates a UNIQUE gameplay style.
The spear will most likely be s tier in late game Sorc builds. Also I really dig this content. It seems,s to me that they’ve given us the ability to make our own unique weapons and builds.
This Yen’s boots slap. Running them to proc shouts on a tornado build.
I think the current state of uniques is perfectly fine, they provide fun transformative effects but always represent a tradeoff. The sacrilegious ring for example, I can imagine it will be a staple for speedfarming in helltide or whatever because I don't want to press a lot of buttons when speedfarming, but we will take it off for pushing in the pit because we will need better stats and more multipliers, and a more intricate skill rotation to get the damage we need is exactly what we should be doing in the hardest content
Ty wudi, can't wait to see what you cook up for the rogue this season like the shadow step build.
As a new player who just started about a month and a half ago, this makes me sad.. I got to level 100 in about 3 weeks and the thing that kept me playing was chasing the uber uniques that would have completed my build. I hope the new changes are enough to keep me going once I get to end game!
Thank you for your evaluation on this! :)
@Wudijo Great video! Thank you! Also, what build are you going for on your lvl 1-100 hc season 4?
Congratulations on 200k wudi
Great video Wudi! Congrats on the 200k milestone! Keep up with the videos buddy!
Such a shame that UBER uniques don’t feel Uber at all now. They have some work to do there. Having said that I’m excited to try boss farming as an end game option. Uber Lilith was so fun but not rewarding in terms of items
I want in-geom!❤❤❤
What they should do for the uniques is to let the affix on uniques be able to get better with the masterwork. So Shako has +4 skills and 20% damage reduction. If you masterwork it and hit it every 4 times it goes up would be nice imo
I think tyriel might effect us to proc on hit / lucky hit stuff .
Maybe we could guaranteed incrementally increase power of unique by feeding it copies of the same. Or maybe a higher cost and feeding any unique helmet towards leveling a unique helmet.
Still strange to give the necro shield and 2handed swords😂
Or shield with no chance to block, lol
How about being able to imprint uniques? You don't get an affix through tempering but that would be kinda cool if you could imprint them. Edit: how about unique only imprints? They could really do good stuff
my current twisted blades rogue is running with 5 uniques, after the patch i'll be going down to 3. shako, starless, and tibault will is just too good to NOT use. doombringer to me atleast feels outclassed to one you can build, especially when you can temper "inner sight duration" on it and roll a greater roll on attack speed. the DR from doombringer is nice, but only if you have a bunch of lucky hit tbh.
Does blizzard usually release a big mid season patch? or what is bad is going to be bad the entire season?
Or what if uniques were all maxrolled when you pick them like the Uber Uniques and then you can masterwork them after
Maxroll indicates max +double swing skills I can get on legendary gloves with greater affix and masterworking rolls is +2 meanwhile twin strikes unique gloves can get +8? Is this correct??? Does anyone know the answer?
I made a build that uses Bloodless Scream and Greaves of the Empty Tomb for next season. Just those two. Pray for me.
Pretty much seems like unique early end game at the most but once you hit level of 100 and start getting into the new tempering endgame they just be completely useless. And Uber uniques almost seem like they're on par with being useless now and no point of farming the Uber bosses.
The devs have to start thinking how to implement more variety of end game items such as set items( not 20/40k % damage multipliers for sure!!), some kind of powerful, but not mandatory rune words, and rework blue/yellow items to have some end game purpose.
I wonder when they are going to put legendary armor sets back into the game.
I would hope the resource starvation days are over -- one of the most tedious and aggravating things about D4 is always being resource starved. Unfun.
Didn't they post that blast wave and artillery shrines were being removed from the game?
I think Tassets of the Dawning Sky gets a bad rap. I can imagine a synergy with Tyrael's Might that would be pretty powerful for dealing with elemental damage.
Congrats on 200k wudijo ♥♥♥
Uniques should change how a skill works, kinda enabling different builds. Grim Dawn has items which change damage types, completely rework spells or give pets dots for example.
Just make the unique effect an aspect in the codex?
Do Uniques have lore behind them?
Some are from D1 (Harlekins, Doombringer, Grandfather, Butchers Cleaver, Eaglehorn, Windforce) some are from D2 (Andariels, Tyraels) but other than that I dont think there is any lore behind anything in D4 itemization other than "Well Tyraels Armor is from Tyrael"
I remember there has been a bit of Lore in Diablo1 about some Items but really dont know.
Each unique comes with flavor text on the item which is part of the lore of diablo. It's not as deep as I'd like. But it's like the flavor text on magic the gathering cards. The more lore you known, the cooler you'll find it.
Why using completely unrealistic examples of items to be used instead of Crest? Helmet with skill roll that hit greater affix on it and all 3 masterwork crits on it as well is as unachievable for normal mortal as it get.
i think ill still roll Harlequin for my helm because +4 is still +4 to RF and +4 to Dark Shroud
I'm totally fine with non-unique items having their time to shine for a season
meaning it only works in season 4?
I just hope they fix material duplication. Entire economy of the game is shaking on it, and on top of it when u trade u could always get duplicated stuff then get it removed from ur inventory eventually and lose ton of gold. It shouldnt be an issue heading into the season.
Charge build for S4? pls send link sir
Greater affix unique will be good.
I would have put the combo Andariels + that Armor that gives you shield when you heal beyond 100% into S-Tier...defensivewise
Andariels HP drain is way too low. I used it in S2 and for some reason, the HP drain is lower in WT3 and even lower in WT4
@VukasinsWalkthroughs you can try with the new affix, life per hit
So uniques are Almost useless or not needed at all?
Think they have too bpost the uniques somehow now, because they are not very good for anything. Maybe only shako that i would want to grab!:)
See im so confused. Do we have to refarm updated uber uniques with the uber bosses..
From what I understand, the stats on uniques and Uber uniques stay the same. It’s the legendaries and rare items that have different stats.
hi, in your opinion between the necro build, necro minion, necro minion shodow, which one do you think is the best performing? thx
Golem is probably still way ahead of everything else for higher Pit-Tiers
@@enricofriske1696 I'm looking at the 2 builds that are on maxroll
Pure minion obviously
@TOFNTOFN they will update the builds for S4 and the Golem build will be there. Between regular minions or shadow minions, I think shadow will have the advantage because of all the crazy multipliers. Another thing about shadow is that you can scale the shadow mages (the strongest ones btw) even more.
@@Lagalpb I don't think they'll put the golem build, it's already nerfed
Next step, add legendary potential to uniques :D
Ich mag ja das neue system sehr und freue mich auf die neue season wie bolle, aber dass die uniques aktuell wertloser geworden sind finde ich schade. Was mir in D4 fehlt sind die coolen Items, die man findet und sich dann fragt wie man alles andere drum herum baut. Neue Uniques für den Zauberer gehen in die richtige Richtung mit Skillverändernden Eigenschaften. uniques sollten die dicke kirsche oben auf dem eisbecher sein, aber jetzt sind sie irgendwo im eis verrührt. Ich möchte mehr davon und dass sie richtig reinhauen.
@VukasinsWalkthroughs dann ist das spannendste an denen also x% damage reduction. Wow. Was werde ich mich über uniques freuen. Ich steh halt mehr auf skillverändernde eigenschaften, die spaß machen.
>Greatstaff of the Crone didn't even rank
Yeah I figured. Tempering absolutely killed the viability of the build. Way to go Blizzard.
Uniques really need unique art and models in game. Cheapens them alot IMO. maybw theyre saving the fancy ones for later
All uniques literally have unique art and models.
They save that for the shop, Rod Ferguson said in the interview 😂
@@ClickStab no they dont. tempest roar is one thag coems to mind....its just a generic hood helm
@StillWeRide alright, I'll admit that one does seem to be just a variant of another helm lol
I'm not seeing any others that are variants, haven't played sorc yet, so no experience there. But as far as I can tell 80-99% are unique models.
Why do white and blue items even exist?
Doesn't "Down bad" mean desperate or horny? Andariel being down bad means something wildly different than the item underperforming
This game just feels like D3 they somehow managed to make the itemtation more boring when the only thing that matters is legendaries.
They should remove the 2 weakest stats and allow tempering
I gotta say i´m realy not vibing with the D4 spells. Rogue is fine with barrage but sorc has not a normal piew piew lightning beam. why not ?! all the spells are weird. Wall of flame is like bullshit but its strong. Incinerate is so weak. At least we can play Frozen orb now but only when you have the right legos/uniques. idk maybe i´m spoilt of POE but D4 just dont feel good. In D3 we had the glyphes wich altert a spell completly at some points and in D4 we have like: yeah its like 4% more dmg be glad for it. i would like to love D4 but its so hard to.
I get your point but most of the runes in d3 are pointless or bad. Same problem with the passives in d3. It is a good concept to have unique modifications to skills but the d3 team didn't care to balance them.
@@bananaboy3376 yeah but it was more fun. Do you use the orbs that circles around you (ball lightning) or do you use frozen orb. it was the fucking same skill in d3. i just say we had way more spells in D3 that where unique and more fun. meteor shower channel build, imagine stuff like that in D4?! ofc you could kill 50% of the glyphs in d3 on some skills and i wouldn´t had a problem with that but the way in d4 is just worse.
Fireball sorc is lots of fun and meteor sorc is crazy so to say sorc spells aren't good or fun to use is wrong
@bungmonkey2295 if you mean the bouncing fireballs: nope. Meteor after lookin into it might be something. Thanks for that. And sorc is only one spec i mention. Druid is also not vibing for me. And thats ok but D3 had more builds i enjoyed. thats all
@@m.h.1443 yes bouncing fireball with triple fireball staff is excellent so much fun. You use flamestrike enchant to give the fireballs burning and stack burning dps boost and xfals. With max attack speed you fill the screen with explosions that melt mobs.
Druid is the most diverse class. You can make so many builds. I bet you never even looked into the switch hitter builds or natures fury builds like trampleslide. Maybe just play the game for yourself and don't base everything on meta build vids others have posted
Andariels is trash now. Most of the uniques need a buff. Uber uniques shouldn't be trash
Fleshrender remains shit and I want to play Fleshrender Druid again in season 4
Uh oh, maxroll finally noticed hunters zenith is good, now it can get nerfed. I’ll have to find a new build.
Spare yourselves the time loss, trouble, and heartache and DO NOT use/get/make Tyrael's Might.
I'm just really curious what affixes theyll add to razorplate cause in the pit I feel thorns will destroy higher tiers
They wanted it to be more like D2. 90% of uniques are garbage
The balancing was just off in D2 and Blizz never bothered to rectify it. In comparison it was so much better in mod like Project D2, both runewords and uniques are desirable in their stats, and you could slam extra mods on uniques, rares and magic items.
You cant compare lowlevel-items in a game where you needed months to reach maxlevel with a Game like D4 S4, where you reach maxlvl before lunch and end the season within the first week because its shit
I don't think devs want most uniques to be garbage. Uniques are outshined by legendaries just because you can't temper them in S4. Team obviously knows about this nuance, but they decided to let this play out to see where it ends up. If nobody uses uniques in S4, I can see devs adding tempering to uniques in some form as early as in mid season patch.
Thats an improvement from.d3 whwre 99.9% is also trash 😂
Please no...
basic attack bleed barb will be op
Uniques are largely unusable since you can't Temper them.
loot collecting game where you dont care about the 'best' items, big problem
When this Is starting?
14
Less than 72 hours
heats up spoon
i dont seee temerity on God Tier
so... you're saying this a very unique season?... 🤣🤣
Many uniques are worse afyer tge item changes period they need to be reworked
so blizzard is overhauling itemization just to make uniques even less usefull ... rly smart ... And i thought to play s4 .. after seeing this im out again ...
Uniques have never been bad, they are a little worse right now because the re work, but there's still really good and build defining ones. If this is enough go make you not want to play, then that's on you brotha.
Wudi hates maxroll i guess
huhuu
First
thanks for nerfs, no fun allowed
What nerfs? Uniques got weaker because our rares got buffed a lot. Uniques got weaker because everything else got stronger
I think you will manage
Definitely first :)
game still beta