Thank you so much for helping me save a few bucks and pursue manual removal of vermitid snails. Seems to be the ONLY method to rid the tank of these dreaded pests. Cheers......
Thank you for doing this test and sharing this video. As you pointed out, though it didn't kill vermited snails, it did kill bristle works and is a good dip. Going to pick this up when my current dip finishes
@@antonp6917 detol? Wow I've tried food grade hydrogen peroxide dips but never detol. I think that may kill vermited, never tried it on vermited snails but a gha frag and did the trick. Did detol kill vermited snails?
i highly doubt any dip will kills vermetid... for the reasons stated in the video, they close their hatch and seal themselves inside their shell, no dip can penetrate it.
No joke! I'm telling you if somebody came up with a cure for these that actually works 100% of the time they would be multi-billionaires. I think these wretched snails of the worst part of reefing, hands down.
Still seems like a good dip for other hitchhikers, the bristleworms alone make it nice. Guess it would come down to price vs others that do the same. Myself I just loke red sea so I'd use it over others anyway lol unless price was crazy higher. I havnt looked into it yet though
Absolutely, I am impressed that the bristle worms were dead after the 15min dip. Every other dip iv tried has certainly stressed or annoyed them, but never flat out killed them in that timeframe.
I wonder how effective it would be to drop a little reef food in the dip to coax them out and let the dipx in (or feed, then pour in the dipx while their nets are out out if necessary).
Hey hopefully you respond - so I’m upgrading 65 - 150 gallons. Plan on transferring everything. But I want to create a little nfs type scape in addition to my current live rock I’ll be transferring, but I don’t want to add a lot of dry rock cause I have all live rock that I’m transferring. I know I’ll get some spikes in nutrients just cause it’s still a new setup even though I’m transferring everything, but I heard Mike Paletta say he noticed long term (2-5+ yrs) corals don’t do as well with dry rock for whatever reason. My question is, did you experience any negative side effects with adding partially some dry rock to your established reef? How soon did you add it after building your scape? That glue is reef safe? Kept wondering cause you mentioned it’s not regular cyanoacrylate. Thanks a lot! Awesome videos
Honestly I didnt notice any negatives at all. My new rock was added a couple weeks after the mature rock had already been added. It matured and got covered in coralline very quickly. Any form of super glue/cyanoacrylate is reef safe, the one I used is only special because of how thin its consistency is.
Excellent video ReefNerd. At this point in time and probably years to come…Vermetid snails cannot be defeated. Check out my recent video on the other undefeated pest (Bubble Algae). At least for those of use that don’t like dumping algaecides in our systems. 😉
I just use a laser and burn them nothing else works and I’ve tried everything. I just can’t get between the rocks but it’s one of those things all about having a reef tank
Why not increase the dose and/or time? Toxicity in many creatures is cumulative over time, limiting to a single experiment of only 15 minutes seems incomplete.
That shit isn't going to kill the snails. I have a friend with them and fuck that. Those shits pop up everywhere. They are real survivors. Somehow, something in the ocean gotta eat these left and right... We just haven't found them.
Vermetids are just one of those things that is almost impossible to keep out of most reef tank unless you are very anal about cleaning and QT all of your corals for months before adding to a display which most reefers are never going to do cos its just too much work.
I agree, they are generally not a pest that will ruin a reef anyway, any that get particularly large or annoy a specific coral can be easily removed manually, but total eradication is not usually necessary.
I have heard this before, however unfortunately I believe they are not available in Australia, good for reefers in the countries you can get them though!
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Great job Marcus! Fantastic and well documented experiment.
Thanks a lot!
The amount of information & time you but into this is invaluable. This is how the hobby progressives.
Thank you so much!
Thanks for this review test. Vermetid are also my only pest
Thank you so much for helping me save a few bucks and pursue manual removal of vermitid snails. Seems to be the ONLY method to rid the tank of these dreaded pests. Cheers......
Unfortunately seems to be the only way
Thank you for doing this test and sharing this video. As you pointed out, though it didn't kill vermited snails, it did kill bristle works and is a good dip. Going to pick this up when my current dip finishes
Ive used detol to kill most pests. Nothing new here.
I find coral rx to bebthe best dip currently on the market btw
@@antonp6917 detol? Wow I've tried food grade hydrogen peroxide dips but never detol. I think that may kill vermited, never tried it on vermited snails but a gha frag and did the trick.
Did detol kill vermited snails?
i highly doubt any dip will kills vermetid... for the reasons stated in the video, they close their hatch and seal themselves inside their shell, no dip can penetrate it.
@@rudra7615 the detol is diluted as any other dip. Works a treat. Does not work on vermatids unfortunately.
They are great survivors well protected by there shell if some one can come up with something they will get rich
No joke! I'm telling you if somebody came up with a cure for these that actually works 100% of the time they would be multi-billionaires. I think these wretched snails of the worst part of reefing, hands down.
Hi, how we call those thousands in number, white dots on the back of corals? I thought they are vermitide snails
Still seems like a good dip for other hitchhikers, the bristleworms alone make it nice. Guess it would come down to price vs others that do the same. Myself I just loke red sea so I'd use it over others anyway lol unless price was crazy higher. I havnt looked into it yet though
Absolutely, I am impressed that the bristle worms were dead after the 15min dip. Every other dip iv tried has certainly stressed or annoyed them, but never flat out killed them in that timeframe.
Thanks for this Marcus really thorough and helpful experiment. Do you know if Bumblebee snails eat them or is this a myth? Cool Vietnam painting BTW.
I dont know first hand, as bumblebee snails are not avaliable in Australia. However I have heard they do eat them.
I got 75 of them & they're doing a good job so far.
Good video! Any way to get rid of vermetid snails once they’re in your tank or is just management by breaking them off?
Not that I know of, only effective way is using pliers or something similar to physically smash or remove them from the rock
Glue their tubes!
I wonder how effective it would be to drop a little reef food in the dip to coax them out and let the dipx in (or feed, then pour in the dipx while their nets are out out if necessary).
I very much doubt that would work... they are too smart for that haha
Hey hopefully you respond - so I’m upgrading 65 - 150 gallons. Plan on transferring everything. But I want to create a little nfs type scape in addition to my current live rock I’ll be transferring, but I don’t want to add a lot of dry rock cause I have all live rock that I’m transferring. I know I’ll get some spikes in nutrients just cause it’s still a new setup even though I’m transferring everything, but I heard Mike Paletta say he noticed long term (2-5+ yrs) corals don’t do as well with dry rock for whatever reason. My question is, did you experience any negative side effects with adding partially some dry rock to your established reef? How soon did you add it after building your scape? That glue is reef safe? Kept wondering cause you mentioned it’s not regular cyanoacrylate. Thanks a lot! Awesome videos
Honestly I didnt notice any negatives at all. My new rock was added a couple weeks after the mature rock had already been added. It matured and got covered in coralline very quickly. Any form of super glue/cyanoacrylate is reef safe, the one I used is only special because of how thin its consistency is.
I tried to glue their tubes to kill vermetid snails. I heard emerald crabs also work?!
Excellent video ReefNerd. At this point in time and probably years to come…Vermetid snails cannot be defeated. Check out my recent video on the other undefeated pest (Bubble Algae). At least for those of use that don’t like dumping algaecides in our systems. 😉
Damn. Great experiment though.
I just use a laser and burn them nothing else works and I’ve tried everything. I just can’t get between the rocks but it’s one of those things all about having a reef tank
great idea!
maybe crush those shells before the dip ? might work that way
going to that much effort kinda defeats the purpose.. may as well just use clippers and remove them entirely.
Why not increase the dose and/or time? Toxicity in many creatures is cumulative over time, limiting to a single experiment of only 15 minutes seems incomplete.
Why they lied to us?
My rocks are full of them 😂😂
Same, they are everywhere...
Reef primer did it in 5 minutes
does anything eat the snails
I have heard bumblebee snails do. But they are not available in Aus so I cannot verify or test this myself
I heard emerald crabs CAN eat these
That shit isn't going to kill the snails. I have a friend with them and fuck that. Those shits pop up everywhere. They are real survivors. Somehow, something in the ocean gotta eat these left and right... We just haven't found them.
Vermetids are just one of those things that is almost impossible to keep out of most reef tank unless you are very anal about cleaning and QT all of your corals for months before adding to a display which most reefers are never going to do cos its just too much work.
I agree, they are generally not a pest that will ruin a reef anyway, any that get particularly large or annoy a specific coral can be easily removed manually, but total eradication is not usually necessary.
Damn. thanks for the experiment. Us Aussies need to find something that will kill these suckers :(
Totally!
If it’s manageable glue their tubes!
Bumblebee snails are effective but take some time
I have heard this before, however unfortunately I believe they are not available in Australia, good for reefers in the countries you can get them though!
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