Why I Think: People Love/Hate Deathcore
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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Episode 2 of the: What/Why I Think Series
So, many people believe that based on my negative opinions about many of the trendy deathcore band's albums, that I hate the subgenre completely. That's not true, but instead of being a dick about it (I can do that if you want me to) here's some reasons that I think people either love or loathe the buzz-worthy subgenre, and also, why I think its starting to fade.
One of the reason us metal heads don't like deathcore is due to the fact that a large number of deathcore bands have a generic, overly simple sound. To me, low guitars played constant at 1 second intervals is boring, which a lot of deathcore bands have. Also, many of deathcore bands depend on generic breakdowns to get people to mosh or make the song exciting.
Agreed
But that's the minority though. There are great Deathcore bands without those one second chords.
the vocals are what turn me off..I like death metal vocals but the way deathCORE bands do it is a lot different even if they're both extreme vocals! I even like black metal vocals better than deathcore or djent vocals. It's like they're whining and growling at the same time
what the actual FUCK are you listening to, I'm genuinely curious, when you find find the time to actually try listening to deathcore, what do you listen to, please tell me.
Sergio P well good thing you don’t sound ignorant...
I'm not really big into Deathcore, but I can still respect Deathcore bands for making music they love. I saw Bleed from Within supporting Amon Amarth, and quite a few people rolled their eyes without much caring for it. The band made it pretty clear they were aware of their mixed reception, but thanked everyone for staying there and watching them anyway.
And honestly, I respct them for that. They were having fun with it, some people liked it, and so it all worked out in the end.
Guess people can't wrap their head around the idea that music is subjective.
I used to be a fan of deathcore until I realized how amazing, soulful and powerful death metal is. I mean, there *are* a few good deathcore/mealcore bands (Whitechapel, TAIM, Rings of Saturn, Born of Osiris, Veil of Maya, After The Burial, Volumes, and The Contortionist to name a few), and some boring death metal bands, but it's generally the other way around. I now am getting into a lot of technical and melodic death metal.
When I listen to a song by Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica, Arch Enemy, Exodus, DragonForce, or a band of the sort, I feel this powerful sense of energy. Death metal is probably the best genre of music in existence because it has so much soul and feel to it. Deathcore, on the other hand, has no soul or feel. It literally sounds like it was written by a computer or something. Yeah, it has a heavy sound, and sometimes makes me want to headbang, but there's really nothing to it other than a heavy sound.
InfidelAmsterdam made a good analogy in one of his videos: Death metal is like a strong beer, hardcore punk is like an energy drink; they can both be good, and they both serve their own purposes, but when they're mixed together… not so much.
+DeathCrackle To me, deathcore is death metal without everything i like in death metal. Sure there are the exceptions(btbam taim), but for the most part it sounds like teenage death metal. Its often produced to the point where there is no more animalistic feel to it, or soul. This would be fine if it was melodic or proggy(see btbam), but it trys to be heavy and destructive and it just doesn't work for me. The musicality also isn't quite with death metal. Its soulless, and not in a good way.
naw DRI are awesome and bands like Municpal Waste are Decent..so mixing hardcore and metal can work, but its more from the "Crossover" genre that kick ass (or classic Suicidal Tendencies). Modern "Metalcore" not so much
Michael Judd those bands aren't death metal.. dragonforce is power metal and the rest are heavy/ thrash.
Michael Judd did you just call after the burial deathcore?
Yeah, Death Metal is SO Damn Soulful. Not saying that Deathcore is, although I'd prefer Death Metal over Deathcore if I have to, but I don't find these genres to be 'soulful' unless they are Melodic and have comprehensible unclean vocals. In their purest forms, (Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Obituary, Suicide Silence, Thy Art Is Murder, Carnifex etc) they both sound Powerful, Cold and Bestial. On the other hand, traditional Metal bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Metallica and Megadeth sound 'Soulful' and Powerful, unlike the former.
My favourite genres are widely expanded! I listen to Thrash Metal/Death Metal/Metalcore/Groove Metal/nu Metal/Standard Heavy Metal/Hard Rock/Punk/Pop Punk/Classic Rock/Indie/Hip Hop/Reggae/Ska. Is it such a crime to love music?
I don't hate deathcore. In fact, I owe it a lot. If it wasn't for deathcore, I wouldn't be listening to bands like cannibal corpse, death, morbid angel, aborted, opeth, job for a cowboy and death metal in general.(other metal genres aswell) In my opinion, deathcore is kinda a phase that goes through a metalhead (not everyone) that afterwards makes you want to explore more and go deeper into the genre. I might agree that the music itself in deathcore isn't that much of a big deal but it's important that it stays because it gives you that feel that it's the heaviest shit around and then you realize that that there's even heavier stuff than that. (See where I'm going?) I actually still have some suicide silence and whitechapel tracks on my mp3 just because it makes me laugh that I thought it was heavy back then when I listen to it. To anyone who's in that phase, enjoy. It will regard you later. (;
Its funny, because Job for a Cowboy also started in this "deathcore phase", but then decided that they rather play Death Metal.
Yes. Correct. For most people I've met, it's a phase. But some, (mostly teenagers) just stick with it and unwill to explore more music.
Ilan Bronshtein I started getting into death and black metal through deathcore. Some deathcore bands are okay, but I don't like the genre that much. Today I saw a comment about born of osiris. They are considered deathcore, but aren't that bad.
WAXULIMATE Agree. Chelsa grin and carnifex also have very decent albums.
***** I had a nu metal phase too a long time ago.. Each person goes through it differently.. I might not like the music now but I think these these bands are doing a great work bringing more corwd for the metal community.
Progressive deathcore is definitely the best such as The Contortionist, Erra, Slice The Cake, The Crinn, Within The Ruins, Wrath of Vesuvius, Veil of Maya, Kardashev, The Faceless, etc.
years ago i was a deathcore/metalcore kid, but then i really got into death metal and black metal, which lead me to power metal and the more progressive black and death stuff bringing me into a lot of other subgenres.. i started collecting vintage metal albums and shirts from bands like entombed and bathory. i listen and find new metal "not fuckin nu metal" everyday, i have to thank deathcore for bringing me into metal although ive lost interest in it. another topic i saw jeff from carcass at the airport monday:) got a picture... really nice guy!!
Why do elitists hate deathcore? Because it has the word "core" in it.
What scene is going to rise you ask? DJENT
It really seems at some point (especially given its rise in popularity) that Djent is simply the latest trend. But... it's so much more. I think Djent is actually A LOT OF THINGS. But it's already getting over-saturated with generic bands that sound like copies of each other. I think the main problem with Djent comes with that term itself, and what it means, and to what degree you can define a band as "Djent". Ever since its rise in the late 2000s, i've fallen in love with it. But, anywho.. i've interpreted Djent in a completely different way. I see it as a reminder. A reminder to every Metal fan of what the signature Heavy Metal sound consists of - as well as the composition that's closely associated with Metal.
And at the end of the day, when we're strictly talking about names here, i think Djent ultimately covers a broad range of Metal subgenres. Mostly - if not completely, Progressive Metal of all sorts. A lot of Post Rock-blended Metal in there as well. But i definitely think people should look at it in a more broad sense than "oh, yeah... pfft, it's the new trend in Metal". Totally wrong... Because it's so much more. It's just the rapid rate at which the scene has become oversaturated that has made it seem stale even now. After such a short period of time. Djent is phenomenal. But history is repeating itself. How many Djent bands are out there who's musical composition consists of pathetic, shitty-ass, generic cookie-monster vocals that you'd hear in a typical Deathcore band? Coupled with sharp, fast riffs and chugs? So many, i wouldn't be able to keep track of that shit. Djent is a phenomenal movement (something i'd rather refer to it as), but there will ALWAYS be an influx of cookie-cutter bands who imitate each other when something gains momentum. I just ignore those bands, and choose to listen to Animals as Leaders, Omertah, Cloudkicker, etc.
I think you're overthinking it a little. Yeah, there are copycats, but thats in very single genre of music. That doesn't mean metal is any less awesome. Some people hate on me for referring to a band as a "djent band," and to those peole I say this: is it easier to call a band "djent," or "polyrhythmic progressive metal with influences of death metal and melodic death metal?"
dudeserpent77 I think you got it twisted. I'm saying Djent is so much more than just a Genre.
dudeserpent77...? Was that.. sarcasm? Because i really couldn't tell. I sure hope not, anyway. Cuz it'd make you look like a total sociopath, not to mention a douche - for showing completely arbitrary and random aggression when a perfectly normal conversation ensued.
Personally I'm still waiting for DUNNNN Metal to take over.
one mans trash is anothers gold....lol \\m// ROCK ON
I don't mind deathcore. It really depends on my mood. I am pretty open musically. In one sitting I can go from listening to cannibal corpse to type o negative to crossfade to mercyful fate to trivium. It's just whatever tickles your pickle at the tme. I don't see why people are making such a fuss about specific genres.
I like deathcore and death metal, both are very cool.
I'm the only one in my school that likes pure death metal, it gets lonely sometimes lol I've had to get into some deathcore bands so the I can go to concerts with friends
Yes, me too, I listen to old school death metal like Deicide and Vader and I also listen to folk metal and technical death metal like dying fetus and decapitated. Im the only one, everyone else listens to slipknot and asking alexandria. Damn clean vocals and masks that make no sense.
I’ve personally listened to every metal genre! I was into industrial metal for the past 10/15 years but when I stumbled upon Deathcore I was like this completes me! Bands like Chelsea Grin, Whitechapel and Suicide Silence absolutely blew me away, I always wanted something more brutal and heavy and Deathcore is just that.
Gross
Year 2022 and deathcore is on a never seen peak with bands like lorna shore, shadow of intent etc..
As a lover of many metal genres (traditional,, thrash, nu-metal, metalcore), I've found myself just being aggravated by deathcore people because that's the only metal they know. Sure, it's different from the typical person who owns one Metallica shirt and believes that makes them a metalhead. There's just different kinds of posers, I'd say.
I always find your vids very interesting. I have next to no experience with Death Metal. The main reason I havn't really given it ago, is the fact I'm not keen to growly vocals in metal. If you could recommend some, maybe some from the 80's, that would be great.
Death, Obituary, Morbid Angel, Possessed and Pestilence. Sorry that I'm not CKN :p
Death, Death, oh and Death!
Also, if you are trying to get into Death Metal just start with old school. I'd stay clear of Modern BDM and Slam for now; until you get used to a regular death growl I don't think hearing pig squeals and basement gutturals will help at all. Plus Chuck, John, David, and Martin all have very recognizable vocals that make listening to their bands all the more fun :) I hope you find joy in this wonderful genre of metal.
listen to cancer's death shall rize album, the songs are really catchy and fun, and entombed 's left hand path is in my top 3 albujms of all time
If you want a gateway band, look into the more melodic stuff from Sweden, like Scar Symmetry or Dark Tranquillity or At The Gates. Then, try moving into the more traditional stuff like Death, Obituary, and Morbid Angel. Finally, if you can get past that, go into the brutal stuff like Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus, Cattle Decapitation, Cryptopsy, and Suffocation, And remember, even if you can't get into the melodic stuff, you shouldn't feel obligated to listen to death metal just because it's the norm. Only go into something if you really want to. Hope this helped.
Deathcore done RIGHT is ok, like Carnifex, All Shall Perish, etc, but deathcore done WRONG is terrible, like suicide silence. I'm not a huge fan of any deathcore, but I dont hate all of it.
Agreed. Bands like All Shall Perish, Veil of Maya, Born of Osiris, The Faceless, etc. are OKAY and I have no problem with them, but some bands like Emmure are just fucking awful.
Bradley Beal
i agree i used to like Emmure but now that i have expanded my listening i realized all it is is talking with what they think is good music behind it
Guys you need to expand your horizons from the generic mainstream deathcore bands.
Check out Ovid's Withering, their new-ish album Scryers Of The Ibis is not from this world.
I'll have to check them out
spectre722 Most people don't want to expand their horizons into a genre where the best bands are just "okay" or "decent."
Dear Coverkiller,
I am an avid fan of many types of heavy metal. It would be greatly appreciated that you review the 2012 album "The Palpable Leprosy of Pollution" by Infant Annihilator. This is a masterful example of what the genre "Deathcore" is actually capable of. I feel that this album alone may be able to change your opinion and the genre as a whole. It is, in fact, my album of the year, for 2012.
Yeah,That album is brutal and heavy as fuck, especially if you are really into deathcore.Thankfully ive grown out of that phase xD
That is a fucking great album, but I have 3 words for you: Monolith of Inhumanity.
what sealed DEathcore's fate for me was when my band was playing a show in a city right by ours and every other band on the bill was deathcore we were a thrash act. now our drummer was really into the genre so he was really excited about it. I can't pin point it all to one thing that killed it for me. it was the karate kicks, the ego risers, the running in place, the crab core headbanging, it just didn't FEEL like a metal show to me. I have since become a bit of a fan of some songs by WHITECHAPEL and the like but only certain tracks. it was also just the fact that even though there were 5 bands on the bill all the bands besides us all sounded the same. I felt like I heard the same breakdown riff multiple times in every song that was played I felt let down that there wasn't any real creativity in it.
I don't hate it, I don't like it, and don't listen to it.
I'm not a "metalhead" by no means; I listen to a lot of pop-punk, indie-rock, pop, R&B, and stuff like that, but I love deathcore. I used to listen to it a lot when I was younger, but stopped. I used to love it, and now I'm revisiting it. I love it again, frankly. I'm sure I'd be called a "poser" if I told a "real metal" this, but the biggest reason why I do like is because it's so different from what I listen to. I do listen to some prog-metal, so I thought your comment about a prog-metal fan not digging growls was sort of funny, because I like both, and that's also possible. I'm definitely happy to see this video, though, since I never quite got the hate for deathcore, or at least, most people hate it blindly, or let a few bands let them dislike it. For instance, I really hate bands like Emmure and Attila, but that's not what the whole genre is composed of. And so if you think that's all the genre is, you really should look more into it.
I believe the hate comes most of the image than the music... I really love bands like Veil Of Maya, Suicide Silence and Born Of Osiris but my favorites of the genre must be Chelsea Grin and Whitechapel, these 2 bands made me love deathcore and in my opinion incomparable to others deathcore bands
The reason i'm not that fond of Deathcore is that i get annoyed when they switch from riffing to generic chugga chugga breakdowns which totally kills whatever momentum the song might have. Also not fond of pig squeals either. Growls yes, squeals no.
As Blood Runs Black. Holy shit what a kick ass deathcore band! In terms of instrumental composition the ALLEGIANCE album was so ground breaking at the time. Though not as technical as their second album in terms of instrumental performance, their first album was so raw and pure.I remember hearing this band in my classic metal phase and I was pleased. I couldn't get into the other deathcore bands though. too much fashion and not enough musicianship I always thought.
Allegiance is definitely a classic
i respect your ability to differentiate the many types of metal/cores.
I've never met anyone that "hates" deathcore in real life. Most people I meet that are into metal are just chill and they like what they like and they're more than happy to talk with me back and forth about the metal they love. My favorite thing in the world is to run into a fellow metal head stranger out and about, and getting caught up discussing music and sharing the shit we like. I love deathcore, it's super heavy and brutal. I also love classical metal, and thrash, metalcore...fuckin everything. I just fucking love metal. I love music. I don't get what the big deal is. Seems to me the deathcore hate is just a bunch of metal elitists. Metal heads are too chill for this contention, lets just enjoy some jams and head bang, yeah?
I love deathcore and I'm not ashamed to say it. I also love trance metal(no, not trancecore or electronicore). I am an aspiring animator/concept artist and different styles of metal(or other genres) inspire my art. So, I think that if it weren't for artists enjoying different kinds of music or getting inspired by music then we wouldn't have things like anime, video games, Disney ,etc. The point is respect other peoples tastes instead of crapping on them.
The Contortionist got me into deathcore but Rings of Saturn is the band that really sucked me in and eventually shat me out drenched in blood and excrement.
Im not too big on deathcore but I like a few bands.... but when it comes to heavy guttural stuff im more of a slam guy, and I totally agree on deathcore with two subsections the technical (Job For a Cowboy-pre genesis, All Shall Perish, As Blood Runs Black, and Within the Ruins ect.. Vs. Br00tal breakdown ridden Deathcore: Infant Annihilator, Whitechapel, Thy Art Is Murder and more) Im more into the technical stuff its more intresting and not as generic and keeps my intrest.... not all deathcore is good and not all deathcore is bad
Yeah Suffokate first album all shall Perish and conducting from the grave are the only Deathcore bands I really care for... I mean a Suicide Silence song every now and then sure but not the greatest band and probably the worst genre in technicality I mean shitty of mice and men is more technical then Deathcore but idk mainly shit to me...
I listen to hardly anything but metal and love deathcore, but also death metal, heavy metal, doom metal, black metal, etc.
Even though i don't look like a metalhead and have little friends who are into metal, i'm often called a poser for liking deathcore.
Explain this shit to me.
Im not HUGE on deathcore but I do find Suicide Silence, All Shall Perish, Thy Art is Murder, Fit For an Autopsy, and Carnifex to be very amazing :)
I love Deathcore and Metal. I think both are amazing.
Actually it's alot more simple than you think. Some people think slower=heavier. They don't think the fast picking and blasting and soloing sound as heavy as slow chugging and breakdowns. Alot of fans of hardcore think this way, and when they hear it in the vein of metal they go crazy. To them, that's heavy. I for one see the great in both styles. Oceano, early Whitechapel, early Carnifex, Infant annihilator, angelmaker, fit for an autopsy...there are some good bands in the genre IF you listen to it for what it is, and not what your linear expectations are for what it should be.
The new Fit For an Autopsy album, Hellbound, is a pretty solid Deathcore release in my opinion.
If all deathcore was like that album i would be a fan
Fascinating video. I love all styles of metal, from death to progressive but due to the repetitive nature deathcore has never been for me though I can understand why people like it.
Deathcore is life!!!!!!
Yeah U R right dear. And Thy Art Is Murder is god of Deathcore.
Have you listened to the band "Vale Of Pnath" ?
This is gonna sound clichéd, but almost every musical subgenre has both it's ups and downs. The same reasoning applies to deathcore. There are the good deathcore bands (Carnifex, Whitechapel, The Red Chord, Arsonists Get All The Girls, The Faceless, Born of Osiris, Veil of Maya, Despised Icon, ALL SHALL PERISH), and shit deathcore bands (Chelsea Grin, Oceano, Emmure, We Butter The Bread With Butter, The Bunny The Bear, As Blood Runs Black, Wanking The Cadaver). There are bands that have drastically improved over time (Bring Me The Horizon, Job For A Cowboy, Carnifex), and bands that have declined in quality (Suicide Silence, As Blood Runs Black, The Acacia Strain). In the end, it's all about recognizing the fact that deathcore, while controversial, IS metal. It's only a trend, but it's still metal. It's doomed to die out like glam, nu metal, and metalcore, but it's still metal.
You forgot Attila, one of the most shitty deathcore bands. Otherwise, I agree.
jack janik Ah, right. Sorry. But Attila is essentially a shittier version of Emmure. And Emmure is a shittier version of Limp Bizkit. And Limp Bizkit is a shittier version of Korn. And Korn is a shittier version of every 80's thrash band. Get the picture?
But claiming 80s thrash to be the best Is nothing short of ignorant. Take a look at Overkill. They're kicking just a much ass as day one.
jack janik I never claimed that 80's thrash was necessarily the best subgenre, I just said that it was where the cycle began. But I see what you mean. Overkill kicks ass.
I have been listening to metal since I was 11 years old and I'm 21 now. I started with bands like Pantera, Opeth, Anthrax, and Lamb of God a little later (just a few for example). I enjoy almost every kind of metal Death, Black, Prog, Sludge, Stoner, AND Deathcore!! To everyone saying its generic and stale, that's a statement that can encompass every genre because sometimes bands sound the same, it happens because there are a number of strait death metal bands I find very boring, same goes for black and every other genre. There are bands I love and bands I hate in Deathcore just like every other genre for ex. I love Thy Art is Murder, Make Them Suffer, Whitechapel, Oceano, Carnifex and All Shall Perish. As I loved those bands I find bands like Bring Me The Horizon, Emmure, and Asking Alexandria to be extremely boring in my opinion and their fans are really annoying. I will stick up for this genre because this is a stupid argument, metal is metal, a band is a band, don't judge it on its genre because you're making everyone who loves metal look bad by fighting like children, fuck. If you argue and bitch "this isn't metal, its destroying metal, blah blah blah" then YOU are NOT a metal head, and YOU are destroying metal
I love death metal,Deathcore and metalcore. Deathcore is good like Thy art is murder,Rings of saturn,Impending doom,Chelsea grin,Lorna shore,After the burial,Born of osiris (Today more Djent) , Betraying the martrys,Infant annihilator,Point below zero,Carnifex,whitechapel and etc.
Don't forget job for a cowboy
I hate deathcore for a few reasons. First, the fans "scene" kids and the other bull crap people who think that they are br00tal. Second, the musicians-people who brag that they can play when they play open strings on a 8 string guitars and endless brakedowns. Third the pretention that deathcore is death metal. Total bullshit.
Narednik Lobanja Complaining about musicians being egotistic,... are you new here?
+Cattle Decaffeination Your nick made me laugh. Good one.
I've went over with this many times with many people already. I don't like it, tried to have an open mind about it. I didn't like the mainstream ones, tried to listen to a lot of underground. Still no effect, another reason is because of the image portrayed by the bands (Yes I went there). It's hard to take any of them seriously with how they look. The music doesn't sound great either, the breakdowns are a lot of the time predictable and bland. Final reason is because I don't like how the vocals sound at all (It makes me cringe), doesn't appeal to me at all sorry. I know there's better stuff out there so there's no point for me to listen to death core or metal core. The only "core" stuff I listen is old hard core and grind core. I live in MA and there's metal core and death core bands everywhere. I could go into greater detail about this, but I getting tired of explaining. Point is... for any of you that like it good for you, but I'll just stick with what I like.
I live in MA too and you're right about the metalcore and deathcore and hardcore type bands around here!
we need more death metal or thrash around here! xD
We have Lich King and Revocation.
crossover punk/thrash bands like DRI were awesome, yet a lot of what they call "metalcore" sucks..
I love Deathcore :)
One of the most intelligent metalheads on youtube
Isn't the Djent scene the new Metal Scene that coming?
i've listened to metal/hard rock all my life... i love lamb of god, slipknot, stone sour and many others. killswitch, seether, manson. Shadows fall is awesome... the majority of these death metal/core metals i initially liked... but that was short lived. Here's why... i don't find the songwriting very intriguing. hate to say it... but it sounds like "a bunch of noise"... ouch. i hate saying that about metal as a devout fan of heavy music.. but straight up. many of these bands are not vocally intriguing or versatile.
musically... sometimes i can still get down with it... but many times the musical intricacy seems very forced. i still respect the skill involved however it doesn't really stick in my head.. I was a fan of classic rock before I wondered into metal. While i Love hardcore singers who scream and stuff... at the end of the day... it is a song... and it seems there's a huge trend right now of singers who don't actually sing... :-/
FESTER - the MGTOW You should try listening to SepticFlesh for some Philosophy.
You just listed the most generic “metal”
Just wondering but most people who like deathcore not like death metal? It seems kinda dumb since it has death metal influence. All my friends who like deathcore don't like death metal and I don't recall them stating a reason why.
I personally am not into the whole Deathcore scene. The only 2 Deathcore bands i like are suicide silence and whitechapel. but other than that i really don't like Deathcore.. I don't hate it, its just not my cup of tea.
i listened to Allegience by As BLood Runs Black, i liked it, the only reason i dont LOVE it because of the breakdowns, it slows down the whole speed of the song imo, thats my only turnoff
Deathcore,metalcore is metal just like every other type of metal
Deathcore has been very limited in there sound, I recently started fading away from the genre because I haven't heard anything different from the it.
By the way, I'd love to see the other video.
When it comes to Deathcore, the only band I'm loving at the moment is Thy Art Is Murder. The lyrics they write are very powerful takes on society...beyond standard, and the music itself is quite interesting. Though I've only listened to some parts of Hate and Holy War, I enjoy them as a casual listen, I'm more of a Sludge/Doom/Groove guy myself, with a light listen on some Thrash and Death and various Punk bands on the sidelines. I don't hate Deathcore, it's just an acquired taste, some people like the taste and some people don't I guess.
Their lyrics are controversial for sure, taking Holy War for example, many songs on that album really do strike a nerve...Naked and Cold has some deep thinking too, I was gutted when CJ left the band recently, he's up there with Glenn Benton and Barney Greenway when it comes to his vocals...
Listen to their album The Adversary if you haven't already. While the lyrics aren't as powerful and controversial, the vocals and instrumentals are much more brutal, technical and fast. Definitely their best album imo.
IAmWhoTheGodsDetest I've listened to The Adversary! Definitely their best album, I think it's often forgotten about though, Infinite Death and Hate seem to get the most exposure, even though The Adversary seems to have cleaner production and far better musicianship, I like the brutal tech death influence going on, they were definitely inspired by Suffocation during the making of that album, Hate went off in a bit of a Deathcore route and is a bit more chuggy, but with Holy War everything comes together from their past albums and they have this blackened death metal (almost like Behemoth) tinge to their sound.
Is it strange I think christan metal will be the next scene?
one thing that I don't like about metal in general is the sub divisions
i'd love to see that other video...sure why not?
:-)
i work from home and don't like deathcore but i like tina turner and xbox 3360
Personally I don't know we have to divide and classify everything to the nth degree... metal... is it heavy / brutal ? .. does it have passion and feeling ? .... well fuck it - I don't give a shit what name you want to give it or what sub-sub-sub-sub-genre you want to create... if it's good it's good - simple.
I'd like to see the other video.
Whitechapel, Infant Annihilator, and I Declare War. There ya go
Exceptions don’t negate a rule. Also Whitechapel are terrible. Why’s with the production of these bands? Compressed drums to hide the shitty playing?
Thy Art is Murder...
The only deathcore band that i really like and that is actually extreme is oceano
I personality love the deathcore style but only bands I got into is Chelsea grin,suicide silence and early bmth , any suggestions of deathcore band that I should check out ?
Whitechapel and carnifex
Thy Art Is Murder
Point below zero, conducting from the grave, all shall perish, through the eyes of the dead, ingested, beneath the massacre, the red chord, born of osiris, veil of maya, the faceless (first album)
Aversions Crown
Fit For An Autopsy!
I think the culture shouldn't define your taste in music. While I enjoy the "crowd" I may fit in, someone who enjoys the music shouldn't let a dumbass on the Internet ruin it for them. No matter the genre of music.
I like harsh vocals. I listen to Dark Tranquillity, Starkill, Kalmah, Death, Emperor, Epica, etc. I still dislike deathcore because it's not meal. It's just hardcore punk music in which bands thrown in a metal sound or two.
Hey ckn can you review the new carnifex album Die Without Hope?
He already did
I like born of osiris, reflections, after the burial AMD suicide silence.
you should do top live albums !!!!
I 1000% agree with your statements! My 2 cents on why I don't like deathcore: 1.) All these bands play 8 or 9 string guitars in Drop Z and only play the lowest string. I don't understand the musicality of that. 2.) The vocals of "bree-bree reeeeeeeee". Again, that's not musical and it's get's fatiguing on me fast as a listener. I'll go the farm if I wanna hear pigs. 3.) Every band and fan in Deathcore is overly concerned with brutality and which band is more brutal than the other. Who cares? We as musicians and fans have to stop worrying about which band is more brutal or better or even in classifying ourselves as a brutal person. Webster's dictionary online says that brutal can either mean cruel, harsh/severe and very bad or unpleasant. Harsh in sound sure. But are any metal or rock bands trying to be very bad or unpleasant? Brutality is not a very good term to describe music in general. Tyrannical dictators and armies can be brutal, not music.
+Erik Fraunfelter 1.) Nope. 2.) Nope.. Check Suicide Silence, Carnifex, Whitechapel, Thy Art Is Murder etc..
What you are describing sounds to me like GRINDcore... or just brutal death metal.. or slam.
I don't get why everyone hates deathcore/metalcore but not Nu-metal? I don't hate the genres but i just don't like it
I like Skinless and Dying Fetus. But I don't like the whole gerne. I normally like progressive Death Metal like Death.
I don't get why thrash/heavy/death/black metal guys "core-shame"... I mean... Shouldn't we be glad that they aren't listening to modern rap music? Lol "real" metal or not...it's better than that shit!
rap is better than that shit lmao
+I love Motörhead you mean to tell me Young Thug is better that Thy Art is Murder?
Fingernails scraping down a blackboard is better than Thy Art Is Murder.
probably because there are a lot of good bands in the death metal genre coming out that are better than deathcore. I like the band Whsipered for example (sort of newish but not brand new ill admit). Deathcore bands dont seem like they have the metal background, much like core bands dont. They're more like skater preps who were into hardcore THEN got into metal later, its kind of a class thing. More middle class/upper middle class suburban white dudes into core, and metal dudes are more from working class. It may sound bullshit but it seems to bear some reality, even if its not always reality. Deathcore is annoying, the growling sounds more like whining or core does in general, and death metal sounds like a demon..as for the ORIGINAL punk hardcore bands, I love those (black flag, DRI, etc). So its nothing to do with mixing hardcore and metal, but its just the ways that many of the metalcore bands do it gets annoying. Not to mention those pop punk commercial sounding "clean" vocals some of those bands do, or djent bands like Periphery do. Its not like we want a Halford or Dio all the time, but I'd settle for Devin Townsend as far as good clean vocals go
Carnivorous Mower that's a really ignorant statement lol
I love Suicide Silence, Molotov Solution, & The Faceless. Bring Me The Horizon is over-rated now (in my opinion)
Deathcore is great.
Ok,call me the bands you know.
It would take a while to name all of the bands I know.
Within The Ruins, Death Of An Era, A Night In Texas are solid as well.
I know all of them. I just wanted to see if he listens to shitty ass bands or not lol
2014 and still likes deathcore.Aww so cute * - *
Why can't we all just love thrash? Problem solved ;)
I like it bit it's your opinion of you dont like it
I agree with you
I prefer to be able to understand the lyrics. No matter how deep and meaningful the lyrics are if I can't understand them I really can't listen to it. This is the main reason I can't get into music with more than minimal "cookie monster" vocals.
I listen to "cookie monster" vocals and can understand it haha
For me it would take about 50 listens while looking at the lyrics before I could begin to understand.
You should listen to some of whitechapel's new albums. Like "Whitechapel" album and "Our endless war". Possibilities of an impossible existance for example. Or "Let it burn" are great examples of songs where you could easly hear the lyrics.
I actually do enjoy a few Whitechapel songs. The higher the growls the easier it is to understand. Screaming is less difficult too. I still find Cannibal Corpse to be a completely unintelligible wall of noise both vocally and musically.
Reid Merrill yeah I don't really like cannibal corpse either. I actually only listen to Whitechapel and a few other songs from other bands in the death-metal/core genre.
well i love deathcore. you should look in to the band whitechapel +brettbullet101
I think deathcore has died a long time ago. Today's "deathcore" bands are either death metal bands with occasional breakdowns or just breakdown only bands like Traitors and Black Tongue. To me deathcore is stuff like Knights Of The Abyss, Salt The Wound, The Irish Front, With Dead Hands Rising, Elysia, On Solid Ground, Misericordiam, and We Are The End. It is really hard to find bands similar to those nowadays. It was easy back then but not today... And it's a shame that the Arizona deathcore scene had died.
+Juan Deag Dead to fall profile picture \m/!!!
Do you know they reformed in April?
MEyck97 Kinda, they got back together, reprinted some merch, did a East Coast tour in June, and this November they will be playing 2 dates on the West Coast. I saw them in Atlanta this summer and they fucking killed it.
Juan Deag
One of the better metalcore bands IMO. I recommend Himsa and The Autumn Offering's first 2 albums to you.
MEyck97 yeah I like those, I recommend you Embrace The End, As Hope Dies, Endthisday, and With Dead Hands Rising
Modern metal nowadays is majorly about Guttural Vocals and Screams and that makes me sick.
My prediction is that slam will replace deathcore, if deathcore does fade
trademarkaswag Blackened doom/djentcore.
trademarkaswag XisForEyes is like blackcore :/
I personally hate it
You guys hate on scene/emo kids for liking deathcore, because they don't know what REAL deathcore is, and you probably don't either. There are plenty of good ACTUAL deathcore bands out there.
I am 2 minutes and 20 seconds in and you've literally said nothing
Fence sitter
U look like ozzy and jared dines
The true enemy of Metal is not Deathcore or Metalcore, it is mostly shitty ass mainstream rap, hip hop, pop, dubstep and such stuff. Deathcore and Metalcore are not like Slayer, Exodus, Cannibal Corpse, Decapitated or Dying Fetus but it's good. We should fight against truly shit music like rap, hip hop, pop, dubstep and such stuff. Of course there are Deathcore and Metalcore bands who are bad.
We shouldn't fight against anything. We should enjoy our music and let others enjoy theirs.
People like YOU are the enemy of music in general. So fucking close-minded just let people listen to whatever they want, if it's shit music then too fucking bad deal with it.
+pacxam11 the true enemy of deathcore ,black metal, deathmetal , rap is the media saying it causes violence when in fact it does not.
The true enemy of metal doesn't exist. I love metal bands like Gojira, Black Dahlia Murder, Lamb of God, Children of Bodom, and others. I also love hip-hop acts like Ab-Soul, Run The Jewels, Tech Nine, and others.
pacxam11 yeah rap used to be good now its just booty shaking and mumbling rap used to be fucking awesome but nowhere near as good ass metal and rock
Personally I can't wait for Deathcore and bland Pop-Alt metal to just go away already haha.
metaleer1979x oh, how wrong you are
Metal core is perfect for posers
I dont like deathcore because deathcore bands do tend sound synthetic and sometimes use metalcore vocals.(not allways, one exampe is thy art is murder)
I personally detest metalcore vocals because they sound like a combination betweeb a punk-rocker who is extra loud and annoying and a goat.
Also the breakdowns slows down the song and for some WEIRD reason reminds me of dubsteb.
I would personally recomend Incnatation, drawn and quatered, Morbid angel, Autopsy, nile and many other good death metal bands as well as technica death metal.
Do like the EARLY albums of major bands like cannibal corpse and Deicide.
I also recommend Abaddon incarnate - the last supper(Fucking harsh lo-fi album as hell.)
Legible***
People keep trying to compare maiden and Metallica and older metal bands to new bands and new genres. they're totally different styles of music with similar instruments if it's not ur taste leave it alone.. yeah there is some absolute shit death core bands (Attila) but there are some bands that take that same energy and add a lot of effort into it to make it different. They're different styles ( listen to ingested) and they should not be compared it's like comparing iggy azalea to the wu tang clan they're the same overall genre but totally different with different fans you all look stupid
Why I hate it? Guitar playing is beyond bland, down tuned guitars cannot even be eligible, vocals are too guttural and there is a complete void in melody of what I've heard
Buy a better mic dude!
deathcore sucks
My personal favorite genres of metal have to be thrash metal and NWOBHM I have to say I absolutely hate deathcore and metal core it never caught my eye not like thrash did, you want metal listen to some 80s thrash and NWOBHM if it wasn't for NWOBHM and then thrash you wouldn't have these two sub par genres of core metal
Hey guess what? Just because a band was there first it's not automatically better
Well have you ever listened to them? The old school ones I'm sure if I had a vote for which is better I'm sure most would choose the old school cause the old school had meaning and actually creative riffs/ solos all deathcore is are breakdowns it is uninteresting and takes no talent or skill to breakdown any band can do it.
Terry McGinnis You're probably only listening to the over generic chugfest deathcore but if you dig a bit deeper you'll find some pretty interesting stuff
I understand but deathcore isn't my type thrash metal is my main genre they're so many great thrash bands
+Terry McGinnis aside from the genre argument if you're going to argue music died after the 80s you better be in your 40s or older because if you're young you need to get out more explore more and listen to some new music go to some shows that aren't $200 a ticket where the band actually plays more than 10 shows on a tour and are in their prime stand in the pit and experience something fresh grow some balls and tell your dad you want your own taste in music
p.s most deathcore sucks
All Deathcore bands are garbage except for the earlier version of Veil of Maya
I really hate a lot of deathcore because the songs are all just one long break down. Some of it is okay. I like Carnifex for example. But I'd much rather listen to some tech death.
groovass65 well good thing you don’t sound ignorant...
I use to hate you. But I hate deathcore more. Slam is trash. I'll keep my grindcore and goregrind.
Deathcore sucks.