Learn How To Rebuild a Ford Toploader 4 Speed - Part 3
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2023
- How to rebuild a Ford Toploader 4 speed part 3 shows basic case prepartion, gear train assembly as well as how the Ford Toploader shift rails work.. The Toploader was mainly used in Ford and Mercury models such as Mustang, Falcon, Fairlane, Torino, Cougar, Comet, Cyclone, Galaxy, and Ranchero. A very strong and well engineered transmission.
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Thanks for sharing the nuances, details and order of assembly, that makes a huge difference in the final product.
It's a privilege to watch your work, along with your tips. If memory serves, these have always been an incredibly detail oriented gearbox when rebuilding to get any kind of longevity and dependable operation out of them. Thank you for your time!
Good presentation as always. Looking forward to the final assembly. Thanks.
Love your work, Paul.👌
Super nice work!
Great video Paul, thank you!
Thanks Paul!
Your videos are so well done, you make it look so easy to rebuild a 4-5 speed box
Paul, thanks for including the shift rail information. I'm the person that asked for that information in part 2. I did not test my rails prior to assembly. The difference in length and end type between the detents had stopped me from moving forward. I bought a new rail kit from David Kee several years ago, I will get the box back on the bench and give it another go. Again, thank you. Subscribed and liked.
Thank you
Top rate craftsmanship!
Thanks a bunch
Thanks Paul !!!
I will forever remember my first Toploader build. Was one of the single most frustrating experiences I had with a transmission. They aren’t overly hard to put together, but you get into trouble real quick when you think you know better and attempt to do things out of order. 😂
It's paying attention to the small details. Nice trans when it's done.
Always love watching you work!
look @ U!! you got this knocked out in half an hour! real nice! helpful tips as well :) good luck Paul ! thanks 4 the peep!!
The best instructional out there for toploaders!
JUST IN TIME!!! I'm reassembling mine this weekend.
Found Mr Freddy on RUclips called him and setup a time to come down and meet.
Just so happened he was going to the Turkey Rod Run in Daytona and I was also
Met and purchased a Toploader setup kit for a 66 Mustang 6 Cyl to V8 swap
Very knowledgeable and Assisted me (an old Chevy guy) to accomplish this job
Very satisfied with the purchase and everything went well with the swap.
Do yourself a favor and contact him and save yourself some heartache
Would heartache are you actually talking about? I've been in the manual transmission business for 43 years. Trust me if anybody is getting parts they are getting it from the same place I am
Thanks for all the knowledge you share. Enjoy your coffee😅
Appreciate it. Thank you
Once again great job. Going to be doing this on my mustang. ❤
Interesting and informative... 🙂
So I just collected these AWESOME videos to learn how to rebuild a Toploader. These are the only ones I have ever seen that give you actual MEASUREMENTS! My Question is however..... Where is 'Learn How To Rebuild a Ford Toploader 4 Speed - Part 2' ?
Take the time to look at my video list on my channel! THANKS FOR WATCHING, HERE IS THE LINK -- ruclips.net/video/EK18FK1ik_Q/видео.html
Watching you meticulously scrutinizing the parts for imperfections is interesting stuff, I'm an absolute sucker for details.
This is world class rebuilding for sure, I need to acquire these lubrication and assembly products you are using.
Thanks very much some of the products are available in the www.5speeds.com store.
NICE!!!
Danke für das tolle Video, Getriebe Instandsetzung einfach gemacht 👍
Thank you very much!
just found your videos and this is truly gold. I Just rebuilt my M45 for a volvo rally car, not the same thing but very similar! I just wished i had watched your videos before i did it.
Now I probably should disassembly it again and check some things.
I have had issues with not getting the 2nd gear to go in fast enough. After watching your videos i think its the tooths on the sliders fault, (was quite worn).
Great content, perfect timing. I’m rebuilding one of these units myself. However, you might show or mention if the new 1-2 slider has the corresponding torque lock taper machined in it. I’m assuming they do. Based on the info regarding the torque lock system, provided in the second video, I just ordered a new 1-2 slider, as well as, a new 1st and 2nd gear. Thanks again for another great video.
I did in part 2. The explaination and rules are stated. All new gears have torque locking so all synchro sliders must match them.
I love it when you put out a new video Paul you’re the top of my must view channels. Any update on the non-world-class T5 series I’ve got a Datsun 280 ZX turbo that I’d love to finish the rebuild on, but I really am waiting on your guidance on how to put it back together.
Thank you please share and tell your friends
Brovo! I have a Chevy Corvair 4 speed and there was no video on this, so I found you for this ford and It really helped. I was stuck at the lock outs and ball & spring. now I have a direction to go. Thank You
The corvair unit is basically a Saginaw four speed. A little different because the input shaft and output shaft run through one another but other than that it's the same
@@GearBoxVideo question, do you know if they share the same needle bearings size and detent, spring and balls? Can’t find any for the Corvair
Should be
Thanks!
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Omg your a genius
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nice put the coffee on i be there lunch time we do my one out of 71 ford
Grab a wrench...
Cool video. Will there be a part 2 to the NWC T5 rebuild?
Yes there will be
Thank You, Paul ! Good Work & Video
Hi, can you share the Reamer size/diameter you used to clean up the 3-4 rail bore?
Hi Paul thanks for a great video. Do you use the same 12 thousandths clearance on 2nd gear as you do on third
There has never been a clearance issue. 2nd is fixed by the washer and mainshaft and usually ok. A tight clearance would require trimming the flange on the mainshaft.
Hello where can n by Al 5gears and baring and main shaft I have 5speed gearbox ford sapphire 2lt
Priceless tips thanks for sharing! One question - you mention Snap Rings have an "install direction". Can you explain or is there a video I can reference?
I found it! at the 13 minute mark of the Tremec rebuild video you explain... there is a wider and narrow side at the snap ring opening. the narrow side goes UP and the wider side goes down (basically) it's so the snap ring tool can grip on the narrow side when you have to remove the snap ring. If the wide side is up, then the snap ring pliers will slip and make it harder to get the snap ring out.
Snap Ring install direction video: 13 minute mark of How To Rebuild a Jeep T176 Tremec 4 Speed Toploader - Part 2 video
I got a question. You said that we need .012 clearance between third gear and 3 & 4 Synchro. What about second gear and synchro? Your look like there is some play... Mine no play at all. What should i do? Grind down the tab shim/washer or the second gear .012 is for each gear or just the third?
Thank you
the 1-2 hub floats.. move the hub away
I noticed you always replace bushings which is fine. For those who don't have presses and specials tools, is it all right to measure the bushing it see if it's really needs replacing to save us the trouble? Thanks.
If the bore is smooth, they usually are OK. It is when they are badly scored. Typically .005 clearance is what I like to see.
Took out my 69 f100 with a 390 fe and 4 sp top loader for a ride last week and after a few blocks got to a red light, put it in 1st and when i was going to shift to 2nd it was hard to come out and it would not engage into 2nd, came to the next light and tried to put it in 1st and it would grind so i put it in 2nd ( was hard to shift into it) took off on 2nd and it was also hard to come out. 3rd and 4th shift good Notice that it just does it while the truck is moving, if im parked it goes into all shifts without forcing it. Any idea of what it could be?
Your clutch is not releasing properly
@@GearBoxVideo I got home and adjusted the clutch. But I'll give it a good look tomorrow to see if I didn't lose a leg on it. Thank you.
Does the top loader have different lengths of input shafts?
Yes big and small blocks have different length pilots
@@GearBoxVideothank you so much for your help! This explains why I’m having trouble. I went from a big block 352 to a 300 straight six. Do they make spacer plates? And where could I find them?
That is something that you are going to just have to mock up. Put the bellhousing on the engine with the trans and see where your shortcomings are. You may just have to extend the pilot bushing. There use to be a company that made an insert for the crankshaft that extended the pilot pushing when using short pilot inputs in different applications
@@GearBoxVideothank you so much for your help!
How do I contact y I u about building my munice m20?
I'm not buikding transmissions, but as I mentioned in the beginning of the video.... All my information is in the video description
@@GearBoxVideo ok thanks
I can’t stop watching this rebuild series lol. But I have a few questions, have you ever worked with David Kee parts? Do you need torque locking gears & selectors for all gears, or just 2 & 3 since they’re the most abusively shifted into? Which taiwanese company did you say reproduces these gears? Is there a company that makes selectors with torque locking teeth on one side for 2nd or 3rd gear, & normal straight teeth on the other side for 1st & 4th? I feel confident from watching your videos, that I can do this myself! The satisfaction will be enormous, you’re awesome for making these videos
As mentioned in the video, all new gears are Torque locking and you can use non locking gears with locking sliders David Kee parts were featured in my book . Sunup Gear in Taiwan makes the gears
@@GearBoxVideo I think I’ll buy your book, thanks for the help, & all you’ve done !
Great work, one thing i am wondering, did you say all parts are new? if so WOW the cost must be through the moon. I thought you would be doing an old tranie with some decent and some bad parts? , maybe show your secrets of repairing the old not so precise parts and/ or how to do with what you got without spending a nasa budget. My main issue is some teeth on main shaft where the snap ring holds 3rd 4th synch hub, ..some teeth are missing, was wondering if that would cause any real problems, [regular shifting, not drag racong] but i see you got a brand new shaft, no need to deal with that i guess. nice to be rich,lol. but not everyone os jp morgan, that can buy all new parts.
The parts are actually not that bad cost wise. I will have costs up after this series is done