In fairness Mason tries to gaslight too when he says this mid-August movie is coming out in December, he's just WAY less committed to the bit than James lol
Is Die Hard just a Haunted House movie but instead of a creature running around a Haunted House you have an alcoholic cop running around an office building?
Fun fact, the American cast and crew had never heard of the name ‘Ridley’ before and assumed it was a misprint of another name. They ended up calling him the assumed name so much on set that the working title of this film was ‘Rodney’
I think my favourite thing about Alien is the engineer ship and how it makes you think you're watching a different kind of movie. They find an alien space craft, that's this whole thing, its big, expansive and there's a dead alien pilot, and you think this is the alien in the title. Then the alien they fight is a completely different alien, I just think that's really neat and a cool subversion.
The engineer ship makes me feel like there's a ton of crazy things happening out there, or have happened long ago, but we don't know about it. Space seems like this vast stretch of cold peacefulness but it isn't. It's like a higher level of subtle horror in the movie.
The engineer ship makes me feel like there's a ton of crazy things happening out there, or have happened long ago, but we don't know about it. Space seems like this vast stretch of cold peacefulness but it isn't. It's like a higher level of subtle horror in the movie.
@@Jojozilla426 100%. Not every single question needs an answer in fiction. Sometimes it's simply best to accept the mystery and leave it up to your imagination.
6:14 in a haunted house you always have the element of “well you can just like, not go there… or if you’re there you can leave”. The space element does mean something - you ain’t going nowhere
This is also why we need more horror movies that take place on ships! Like, water ships. Not space ships. (Justice for Jason Takes a Cruise Boat, which is a great movie!)
Fun fact: The "Ash Pump-up" is actually mentioned in Aliens. When Burke explains to Bishop the deal with Ripley's hatred of synthetics, he says "It was a Hyperdyne Systems Model 120-A/2", to which Bishop responds "The A-2's always were a bit twitchy". Also, in Alien: Isolation, every now and again, you can observe the Working Joe synthetics doing the same animation.
Hyperdyne systems? Thats from Terminator. I think you got your sci fi megacorps mixed up a bit. Or am I not getting the joke here? Oh no wait that was Cyberdyne systems. Carry on.
2:50 I love how in the scifi video game Prey which takes place in an alternate present, a cure for cancer was discovered decades ago so nobody ever stopped smoking. That's my favorite explanation for smoking in retro futuristic settings.
One of my top 10 favorite movies, ever. It's a masterpiece. I love so many things about this film: The performances are all sublime, the pacing and atmosphere (in the theatrical cut) are flawless, the production design and art direction are beyond reproach...everything about this film just *works*. The messaging about how the working class are exploited by corporations to the point where literally getting people killed is irrelevant as long as it generates potential profit, plus the fact that the script was specifically written to prey on men's fear of being violated, it's definitely got layers beyond "haunted house in space". I love how if you saw this in 1979 and thus had no idea Ripley survived how the movie tricks you into thinking she's gonna die next when she goes off alone to find the cat. I love how she pauses before saying Ash's name in her final log entry. I love the little song she's singing to calm herself while waiting to pop the door at the end to blow the alien out. The weird liquid fuel thing happening with the engines in that shot. Everything. I love everything about this film. It also has cinema's most unsettling character death, poor Lambert. Because that's the platonic ideal of "let the viewer's imagination conjur the terrible things happening" just from the sounds because oh my god, the sounds in that scene haunt me. 11/10 Also the theatrical cut is objectively the superior version *because* you never see what happened to Dallas and sometimes less is more.
Completely agreed on all things except the eggs scene. I find it unsettling to think about something making you into something completely different. It makes you into what spawned your horror in the first place and as it seems in the movie it hurts like hell. I find it a bit disappointing nowadays that in the original Dallas just disappears after the Alien goes all "You found me! Want a hug?" on him. Did you know that the implication shot of Lambert's death was actually Brett's boots and trousers? You can see it in a different cut I believe, how the Alien carries Brett impaled by its tail up to the airshaft.
Yes, very well said! I just watched it again a few days ago and I still can't stop thinking about it. Everything blows me away in it. To me, it's truly the height of what cinema can do, where everything just comes together so perfectly. Absolute masterpiece.
Probably talking to myself here but what the hell…saw Aliens as a kid, but didn’t see this until a few years ago. It blew my mind. Couldn’t believe all that architecture and design work in Prometheus was from this. It really feels like a movie from the future. Scott and Co. were crazy for this, it looks so modern compared to other stuff at the time.
There are things that show their age, and there are things that seemed way ahead of their time, and even better than much today. In particular the quality of sets was so fricking good. That ship on the planet was amazing, and still blows my mind how good it looks today when I see it.
For how many Doctor Who clips get used in Caravan of Garbage, I’m surprised Ben and or Laurence didn’t include a clip of the Meep when “The Star Beast” was mentioned lol
I love how ready for adventure Kane is, like he would be perfectly at home as the swashbuckling hero in a 50s sci-fi. Here though, acts of bravery just get you killed quick. Ah, the 70s.
I just recently came across an incredible piece of trivia regarding this movie: Apparently, David Lynch felt that Giger stole the design of the chest burster from his deformed infant creature from Eraserhead. For this reason, Lynch refused to use Giger's designs for his Dune adaptation, even after Giger personally reached out to him with concepts/ideas. So there is some branch of the metaverse where Lynch and Gigerr collaborated on Dune. Lynch held a grudge even deep into the 90's, but eventually let it go. If you want to go down the rabbit hole, Lynch made several allusions to the situation during interviews over the years.
Ridley Scott has said repeatedly that the "director's cut" is nothing of the sort. As far as he's concerned, the theatrical version is his preferred version.
Our Sunday Movies guys should really check out Mike’s Monsters breakdown of Neill Blomkamp's Alien V. It was not going to be any good, contrary to popular belief.
It's astounding how much of the mystery of both this movie and the entire Alien universe was made infinitely lamer by Prometheus. "Oh, you wanted to know more about this big traveler guy? Well, actually, he's just a mostly human looking dude, and that cool design you saw in the first movie was just a conveniently alien looking suit."
It’s the old “Whatever you came up with inside your head is more interesting than the actually explanation” scenario. River Song in Doctor Who, Wolverine, Legend of Korra and even Joker Al make the mistake of explaining the mystery.
I try to think of the engineers as a race that discovered the aliens and used their genetic material to their own means, but when they found out that humans would become the perfect host they decided to destroy. As for David he was only discovering what was hidden in the pathogen code not creating.
No mention of Dark Star? It was the first film written by O'Bannon and was the genesis of Alien. It started out as a student film and looks very cheap, but the similar themes and ideas (deep space travel in hibernation, the crew, a ship AI telling the crew what to do, an alien onboard, etc.) are there. You might be able to tell from my username the film left quite and impression on me as a kid in the 80's and i was hoping it would get some love from my favourite Aussie movie podcasters! Oh well.
I’m sure you heard before but O’Bannon recalled the audience in the theater not laughing during the beach ball alien sequence in Dark Star. It led him to vow “if I can’t make them laugh, I’ll make them scream”
4:18 As a matter of fact, in one of the books it takes pains to mention that a person coming to after a face hugger attack felt absolutely great. You know, until they gave violent chest birth to a horrific space monster. It very specifically mentions dopamine and other chemicals creating a sense of near euphoria in the host as a mechanism to basically trick them into not investigating their condition.
As far as I’m aware, this is the first appearance of a Kazuma Kiryu gag in the Caravan of Garbage series and as a result, I have to give this the honour of being the best Caravan of Garbage ever conceived. Bravo, gentlemen
Eh I kinda wish they were still canon to Alien tbh, they may not be the best movies but theres nothing about them that affects the canon negatively imo, its all good additions. I would much much rather have those movies canon than the last 2 movies...
@@Jojozilla426 Yeah, it's kind of funny how the AvP movies retroactively went from "bad" to "pretty okay actually", thanks to Ridley Scott. (I think I'd also put the first AvP over Alien 4.)
@@ThreadBomb I think they are all still shit. I never understood going back and saying a pile of shit doesn't smell as bad because you have a new pile of stinky shit to smell. At the end of the day it's all shit.
Bolaji didn't "completely disappear", he was a student in the US at the time and wasn't there for acting per se. He moved back home after his studies and had a full life till he passed away.
The point is he disappeared *from movies*, unlike just about everyone else in the this fairly small crew of actors. Even the woman who did the voice of Mother had a ton of credits. I think we realize that when people leave the movie industry (which happens a decent amount), they don't literally disappear. 😆 Unfortunately, he died at the early age of 39. I'm glad the boys are giving him his proper credit, because people can't actually ever see his face in the movie. They just feel his presence.
James and Nick always have the dopest YT and podcast recs. Bad Movie Bible looks rad as hell, cheers for providing me with a new content binge for the weekend.
Saw this film at the cinema last year, and loved it even more. So refreshing to have legitimately smart, competant characters acting in a film. Ripley did nothing wrong, but from a betrayel (which even that made sense)
This is a timeless classic. I think this is the best out of all of them because it’s more about the feeling and what you don’t see that makes it more terrifying. Just like Jaws, you don’t really see the shark that often in the film but the direction and music that creates a spine chilling atmosphere.
A production designer, or possibly Cameron himself, put in that bit of backstoey Lambert's file as a nod to a previous role that Veronica Cartwright was famous for. Probably the same person who had Dallas previously employed by the Tyrell Coproration.
In the pilot episode of the _Firefly_ television series there's a Weyland-Yutani logo on the sentry gun Malcolm Reynolds uses during the Battle of Serenity Valley, implying that it also takes place in this same shared universe.
The Ash head wouldn't have been so bad if they had disguised the cut from it to the live head. It would have been simple, by having Ripley briefly block off the camera so that they could splice the edits together. It is, in my opinion, the only flaw in the film.
Im in the camp, when it comes to egg morphing, that when a single drone is alone with no queen or hive in sight it creates its own limited amount of eggs and dies off.
the level of realism in alien is insane, every environment and character feels lived in and real, the grunginess sells it so much to make it that much scarier. and it blows my mind that they’re on the planet with the alien eggs within fifteen minutes?? they just get straight to the point but the pacing never feels rushed, i genuinely love this movie so much
The fact the actors didn’t know about the chest burst scene is crazy to me. Imagine coming onto set, thinking it’s gonna be a chill scene, maybe have a brief idea on what’s gonna happen then *wham* chest burster
I really don't mind the fake Ash head. It's the cut from fake to real that really bothers me. All you had to do was cut away to someone else and back again, but instead, they jumpcut, and it just looks awful. A glaringly bad edit in an otherwise perfect film for me.
Fun fact: the original H.R. Giger alien costume was so skin-tight that the latex was almost transparency and glossy reflecting all the stage lights. So much so the visual effects team outsourced to California in order for the costume to not appear so reflective with the blue screen. It was then titled, “Blue Harvest” after the alien would harvest your time forced to watch another Ridley Scott movie.
I was hoping you guys would drop this piece of trivia, but it's cool, because now I get to! Screenwriter Dan O'Bannon came up with the idea for the chestburster based on the pain of his Crohn's disease. I love this bit of trivia because I spent years describing my Crohn's pain as being "like the chestburster scene from Alien" before I learned that it was literally the inspiration! O'Bannon died due to complications of Crohn's. RIP to a horror/sci-fi legend!
What makes this work for me is that the creature is not some supernatural, onmi-present think that will get you no matter what. Its an animal that can be killed. And its on a ship full of people with guns and flamethrowers. The chance they could win and still don't is what makes it scary for me. I love most of the Alien movies.
For me it’s the opposite, in this film the Xenomorph and the place it comes from feels completely supernatural and beyond anything humans can comprehend. It’s creepy rapey human-like characteristics are extension of that. The Xenomorph got a whole lot less interesting when it just became a big bug serving a hive.
@@li-limandragon9287 I mean Ash has a face hugger on the operating table 30 minutes into the movie. Its biological. It is literally "alien" to us and our biology, but that has nothing to do with the supernatural.
@@R0B1NG5It can off-screen teleport onto all the time and grow to the size of a man in seconds. In the original ending it was going to talk as well. I think viewing it purely from a biological lense spoils the gothic themes
If you pay attention during firefly and serenity it's implied that they are also set in this universe. Just for instance; in the opening narration of serenity they explain when they found new worlds "each one teraformed, a process taking decades" which is directly quoted from the add playing in Aliens. It's also a very grubby, blue collar kind of show.
Not to mention they'd be calling Ripley a Mary Sue, lambasting DEI for having a black character and for having all the white men die first... God I hate the internet...
@@XAVR_it’s really funny to see Right wing reactionaries tout Ripley as a great example of a female hero (I mean, she is but on their reasoning) just considering how integral second wave feminism is to Alien. But since it’s a beloved classic, they can’t call it woke the way they would Doctor Who.
Wow. I'm sharing & resharing this everyday this week! I was skeptical, but y'all really did simplify some of the biggest ideas into bite-sized, beginning-level concepts. Congrats! This is a unrivaled success in form, hopefully in popularity as well.
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13:01 - The amount of GASLIGHTING James keeps putting Mason through is phenomenal.
RIGHT lmao god I fuckin spat at my laptop at that bit it was so funny
james really is out here gaslighting, gatekeeping and if you dont mind me saying girlbossing
Right??
@@jakeking6451 i came here to say GIRLBOSS, beat me to it! 😂
In fairness Mason tries to gaslight too when he says this mid-August movie is coming out in December, he's just WAY less committed to the bit than James lol
Is Die Hard just a Haunted House movie but instead of a creature running around a Haunted House you have an alcoholic cop running around an office building?
"Die Hard" is "Predator" from the Predator's (McClane) perspective.
“And therefore it’s bad!”
-Siskel
_Hider in the House_ was just a haunted house movie with Gary Busey as the creature.
“I have a machine gun now ho ho ho” is totally a slasher movie thing to do
He does clatter around in the vents.
Cut lines from the screenplay:
Ripley: I can't find any milk for my coffee.
Dallas: In space no-one can. Here, use cream.
Lol good one
Ash, looking guilty for drinking all the milk.
tremendous.
Nice Rikers beard joke there 😂
She couldn't find it because Ash drank it all
Fun fact, the American cast and crew had never heard of the name ‘Ridley’ before and assumed it was a misprint of another name. They ended up calling him the assumed name so much on set that the working title of this film was ‘Rodney’
Wich coincidentally was the working title for 1977 Star Wars
You got me good
Hell yeah!
You should replace James if they don’t bring back Rodney
In space, no one can you hear scream "RODNEY!"
In space, no one can hear you scream… Rodney? Rodney! RODNEY!
RIP Rodney, 2020-2023. He was taken from us too soon.
really want Rodney back
I think my favourite thing about Alien is the engineer ship and how it makes you think you're watching a different kind of movie.
They find an alien space craft, that's this whole thing, its big, expansive and there's a dead alien pilot, and you think this is the alien in the title. Then the alien they fight is a completely different alien, I just think that's really neat and a cool subversion.
The engineer ship makes me feel like there's a ton of crazy things happening out there, or have happened long ago, but we don't know about it. Space seems like this vast stretch of cold peacefulness but it isn't. It's like a higher level of subtle horror in the movie.
The engineer ship makes me feel like there's a ton of crazy things happening out there, or have happened long ago, but we don't know about it. Space seems like this vast stretch of cold peacefulness but it isn't. It's like a higher level of subtle horror in the movie.
@@PurpleLightsaberAlex Yeah and we still dont know about it, it has never been explored and likely never will and thats ok
@@Jojozilla426 NEVER.
@@Jojozilla426 100%. Not every single question needs an answer in fiction. Sometimes it's simply best to accept the mystery and leave it up to your imagination.
So the payoff of “thoughts and prizes” is james pretending it never existed, such a genius play
thoughts and imagination 🌈
What? What are you talking about?
@@logandh2 Guy seems to think there was a section called Thoughts and Prizes - haha. Sad.
It’s the joker movie of our generation
Wtf is thoughts and prizes? Are you offering thoughts and prizes? If so I'll take a prize but keep your thoughts to yourself.
6:14 in a haunted house you always have the element of “well you can just like, not go there… or if you’re there you can leave”. The space element does mean something - you ain’t going nowhere
This is also why we need more horror movies that take place on ships! Like, water ships. Not space ships.
(Justice for Jason Takes a Cruise Boat, which is a great movie!)
there often is some reason for why they can't leave though
I never noticed that Ash is drinking milk in several scenes!
Horse semen would have been prohibitively expensive.
Genuinely one of the greatest horror movies of all time
one of the best films ever, regardless of genre.
@@krenwregget7667 I totally agree
My favorite movie. Ever.
one of the greatest movies of all time, period
Meh
Fun fact: The "Ash Pump-up" is actually mentioned in Aliens. When Burke explains to Bishop the deal with Ripley's hatred of synthetics, he says "It was a Hyperdyne Systems Model 120-A/2", to which Bishop responds "The A-2's always were a bit twitchy". Also, in Alien: Isolation, every now and again, you can observe the Working Joe synthetics doing the same animation.
Hyperdyne systems? Thats from Terminator. I think you got your sci fi megacorps mixed up a bit. Or am I not getting the joke here? Oh no wait that was Cyberdyne systems. Carry on.
@@TheSuperappelflapI love how we got a directors cut of your comment in the comment. Good stuff, no notes
@@cg1906 haha thanks
Ohhh I remember seeing them do that in Alien Isolation. The androids were just as scary as the alien in that game I loved it
So glad to see the Alien: Isolation fun fact in here. Such a great game and would be a phenomenal movie idea for the series!
We need the guy who shouts *“RODNEY”* back😥 it hasn’t been the same without him and Green Trivia
@@mctown972 👏 👏 👏
ROOOOOOOODDDDNNNNEEEEYYYYY ARGRHGRGGHRGGRHHG!
Rodney!
No
Feels like a while since the blue harvest bit too
I am once again on my knees, begging for the fifth element caravan of garbage!!
ZEUS, PLEASE GIVE ME FIFTH ELEMENT CARAVAN OF GARBAGE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
Watched for the first time this week so I 2nd this motion
My personal favourite...
I’m almost positive that they already did 5th element. 🤔
They're not here
2:50 I love how in the scifi video game Prey which takes place in an alternate present, a cure for cancer was discovered decades ago so nobody ever stopped smoking. That's my favorite explanation for smoking in retro futuristic settings.
One of my top 10 favorite movies, ever. It's a masterpiece. I love so many things about this film: The performances are all sublime, the pacing and atmosphere (in the theatrical cut) are flawless, the production design and art direction are beyond reproach...everything about this film just *works*. The messaging about how the working class are exploited by corporations to the point where literally getting people killed is irrelevant as long as it generates potential profit, plus the fact that the script was specifically written to prey on men's fear of being violated, it's definitely got layers beyond "haunted house in space". I love how if you saw this in 1979 and thus had no idea Ripley survived how the movie tricks you into thinking she's gonna die next when she goes off alone to find the cat. I love how she pauses before saying Ash's name in her final log entry. I love the little song she's singing to calm herself while waiting to pop the door at the end to blow the alien out. The weird liquid fuel thing happening with the engines in that shot. Everything. I love everything about this film.
It also has cinema's most unsettling character death, poor Lambert. Because that's the platonic ideal of "let the viewer's imagination conjur the terrible things happening" just from the sounds because oh my god, the sounds in that scene haunt me.
11/10
Also the theatrical cut is objectively the superior version *because* you never see what happened to Dallas and sometimes less is more.
Completely agreed on all things except the eggs scene. I find it unsettling to think about something making you into something completely different. It makes you into what spawned your horror in the first place and as it seems in the movie it hurts like hell. I find it a bit disappointing nowadays that in the original Dallas just disappears after the Alien goes all "You found me! Want a hug?" on him.
Did you know that the implication shot of Lambert's death was actually Brett's boots and trousers? You can see it in a different cut I believe, how the Alien carries Brett impaled by its tail up to the airshaft.
Yes, very well said! I just watched it again a few days ago and I still can't stop thinking about it. Everything blows me away in it. To me, it's truly the height of what cinema can do, where everything just comes together so perfectly. Absolute masterpiece.
Probably talking to myself here but what the hell…saw Aliens as a kid, but didn’t see this until a few years ago. It blew my mind. Couldn’t believe all that architecture and design work in Prometheus was from this. It really feels like a movie from the future. Scott and Co. were crazy for this, it looks so modern compared to other stuff at the time.
Thats what you get when people build real sets and you hire Giger to do the design for the aliens
A mix of cgi and practical effects is always the best combo. Lashings of the latter and a sprinkle of the former
There are things that show their age, and there are things that seemed way ahead of their time, and even better than much today. In particular the quality of sets was so fricking good. That ship on the planet was amazing, and still blows my mind how good it looks today when I see it.
Ah yes, the reason Ridley from Metroid was named Ridley
I'm assuming that's a typo. It's Ellen Ripley 😎
@@jbeisch Ridley Scott is the director.
There’s a lot of little stuff in Metroid to that’s inspired by the film.
I thought it was Blue Harvest...
@@jonbaxter2254 You are now my favorite person! 😄
For how many Doctor Who clips get used in Caravan of Garbage, I’m surprised Ben and or Laurence didn’t include a clip of the Meep when “The Star Beast” was mentioned lol
Keeping you on your toes
I’m surprised they haven’t talked about DW on the podcast
@@iancain7844they have, they used to do hunger games doctor who episodes.
@@iancain7844 There is a DW film from back in the day
...from the great 1979 comic strip please, not the awful RTD 2023 interpretation for the 60th!
I love how ready for adventure Kane is, like he would be perfectly at home as the swashbuckling hero in a 50s sci-fi. Here though, acts of bravery just get you killed quick. Ah, the 70s.
"What are you talking about? What is that? Are you okay?"
Best part of the video 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s so weird they made the ‘thoughts and prizes’ graphic for a segment that has never existed before this episode
What graphic?
I just recently came across an incredible piece of trivia regarding this movie: Apparently, David Lynch felt that Giger stole the design of the chest burster from his deformed infant creature from Eraserhead. For this reason, Lynch refused to use Giger's designs for his Dune adaptation, even after Giger personally reached out to him with concepts/ideas. So there is some branch of the metaverse where Lynch and Gigerr collaborated on Dune. Lynch held a grudge even deep into the 90's, but eventually let it go. If you want to go down the rabbit hole, Lynch made several allusions to the situation during interviews over the years.
I never made the connection between Ash’s little run-on-the-spot and the Working Joes that do the same thing in Alien Isolation
Ridley Scott has said repeatedly that the "director's cut" is nothing of the sort. As far as he's concerned, the theatrical version is his preferred version.
and yet I prefer the longer cut :shrug:
@@mikey-wl2jt bigger longer and uncut
@@mikey-wl2jtso... you prefer the theatrical cut also.. 😂
@@TheJohhnyE could be. I was thinking about Aliens tbh. Is the "directors cut" of alien shorter then?
@@mikey-wl2jt Yeah its about a minute shorter, they mention it in the video
Literally just watched Alien 1-4 last weekend. I'm ready for these
I remember the TV did all 4 before Prometheus, so I binged them in a week.
So great, that turned so awful very quickly.
Caught my dad watching all of them two weeks ago. I'd have joined him if I wasn't busy!
Oh no James and or Mason, you wrote this comment on your burner account
@@ComputerWizardwow! That's a pointless,
Our Sunday Movies guys should really check out Mike’s Monsters breakdown of Neill Blomkamp's Alien V. It was not going to be any good, contrary to popular belief.
Missed opportunity to use a "Ripley" supercut before Green Alien Blood Trivia.
@@forrestdevine2336 Yup. They missed a trick there.
Can’t wait for thoughts and prizes
Nevermind
What are you talking about?
Are you ok? What are you talking aboiut, that was never a thing...
It's astounding how much of the mystery of both this movie and the entire Alien universe was made infinitely lamer by Prometheus.
"Oh, you wanted to know more about this big traveler guy? Well, actually, he's just a mostly human looking dude, and that cool design you saw in the first movie was just a conveniently alien looking suit."
It’s the old “Whatever you came up with inside your head is more interesting than the actually explanation” scenario. River Song in Doctor Who, Wolverine, Legend of Korra and even Joker Al make the mistake of explaining the mystery.
@@SirAsdf also they made some black goo that kills people or makes aliens or some shit, whatever, cant really be arsed to explain
I try to think of the engineers as a race that discovered the aliens and used their genetic material to their own means, but when they found out that humans would become the perfect host they decided to destroy.
As for David he was only discovering what was hidden in the pathogen code not creating.
@@li-limandragon9287 Eh River Song worked
@@li-limandragon9287that's why you just don't explain the mystery. They mystery is almost always more fun and interesting than the explanation.
No mention of Dark Star? It was the first film written by O'Bannon and was the genesis of Alien. It started out as a student film and looks very cheap, but the similar themes and ideas (deep space travel in hibernation, the crew, a ship AI telling the crew what to do, an alien onboard, etc.) are there.
You might be able to tell from my username the film left quite and impression on me as a kid in the 80's and i was hoping it would get some love from my favourite Aussie movie podcasters! Oh well.
I’m sure you heard before but O’Bannon recalled the audience in the theater not laughing during the beach ball alien sequence in Dark Star. It led him to vow “if I can’t make them laugh, I’ll make them scream”
4:18 As a matter of fact, in one of the books it takes pains to mention that a person coming to after a face hugger attack felt absolutely great. You know, until they gave violent chest birth to a horrific space monster. It very specifically mentions dopamine and other chemicals creating a sense of near euphoria in the host as a mechanism to basically trick them into not investigating their condition.
As far as I’m aware, this is the first appearance of a Kazuma Kiryu gag in the Caravan of Garbage series and as a result, I have to give this the honour of being the best Caravan of Garbage ever conceived. Bravo, gentlemen
I kinda like how the AVP movies are on the PREDATOR canon but not the ALIEN canon.
Eh I kinda wish they were still canon to Alien tbh, they may not be the best movies but theres nothing about them that affects the canon negatively imo, its all good additions.
I would much much rather have those movies canon than the last 2 movies...
@@Jojozilla426 Yeah, it's kind of funny how the AvP movies retroactively went from "bad" to "pretty okay actually", thanks to Ridley Scott. (I think I'd also put the first AvP over Alien 4.)
@@ThreadBomb I think they are all still shit. I never understood going back and saying a pile of shit doesn't smell as bad because you have a new pile of stinky shit to smell. At the end of the day it's all shit.
You know blah blah Blue Harvest reference
Bolaji didn't "completely disappear", he was a student in the US at the time and wasn't there for acting per se. He moved back home after his studies and had a full life till he passed away.
The point is he disappeared *from movies*, unlike just about everyone else in the this fairly small crew of actors. Even the woman who did the voice of Mother had a ton of credits. I think we realize that when people leave the movie industry (which happens a decent amount), they don't literally disappear. 😆
Unfortunately, he died at the early age of 39. I'm glad the boys are giving him his proper credit, because people can't actually ever see his face in the movie. They just feel his presence.
Why does everyone on the internet take everything ultra literally.
Neill Blomkamp's unmade Aliens movie is the greatest tragedy.
Literally nothing he's done since District 9 was any good. We didn't miss anything.
And his Halo too. Dude just has worst luck
Personally I feel like his unmade Robocop movie is the greater tragedy.
the greater tragedy is Ridley not getting to make his 3rd Prometheus film. I will die on this hill!!
Trust me, if Neill did his Alien project, there would quite possibly never be another Alien movie again- be glad that Fede got to make Romulus.
James and Nick always have the dopest YT and podcast recs. Bad Movie Bible looks rad as hell, cheers for providing me with a new content binge for the weekend.
Yeah dude great channel.
Saw this film at the cinema last year, and loved it even more.
So refreshing to have legitimately smart, competant characters acting in a film. Ripley did nothing wrong, but from a betrayel (which even that made sense)
"what's that in the old money?" 10:21 I've never heard that slang to ask it in different measurements, that's cool.
Bad Movie Bible is a great shout out, his 'rip off' series is hilarious.
This is a timeless classic. I think this is the best out of all of them because it’s more about the feeling and what you don’t see that makes it more terrifying. Just like Jaws, you don’t really see the shark that often in the film but the direction and music that creates a spine chilling atmosphere.
Aaah yes, the Alien quadrilogy Tetralogy
This is my favorite movie, with The Thing being a very close second.
13:03 Just the idea of James getting up close to Mason's face and making him uncomfortable XD
It should have come as no surprise that Ripley was the hero seeing as her surname is just "Ridley" with an upside down "d".
You should have a compilation of people shouting 'RIDLEY', preferably if you could also edit them into a boat. Thanks is advance
Yes, let's bring back the worst out of context in joke they've ever had. I'm not being sarcastic.
@@versebuchanan512it was out of context I agree but they’ve had way worse outa context jokes.
@@yeetus_the_feetus4858 I'm new to the community, so I haven't seen that many I suppose. Yet.
@@versebuchanan512 Disagree it was hilarious
A production designer, or possibly Cameron himself, put in that bit of backstoey Lambert's file as a nod to a previous role that Veronica Cartwright was famous for.
Probably the same person who had Dallas previously employed by the Tyrell Coproration.
What was the previous role that Veronica Cartwright played, I can't find anything about that?
I’ll be honest, I never put together that Alien and Bladerunner take place in the same universe
@@alltheinnocence it is completely irrelevant to either of the plots, it's more of an Easter egg
In the pilot episode of the _Firefly_ television series there's a Weyland-Yutani logo on the sentry gun Malcolm Reynolds uses during the Battle of Serenity Valley, implying that it also takes place in this same shared universe.
I'm delighted you shouted-out Bad Movie Bible. His stuff is so well-done.
The Ash head wouldn't have been so bad if they had disguised the cut from it to the live head. It would have been simple, by having Ripley briefly block off the camera so that they could splice the edits together. It is, in my opinion, the only flaw in the film.
Pitch Meeting AND Red Dwarf. Chef's Kiss
Glad to hear a Bad Movie Bible shout out. If you haven't heard of him, he's criminally under subscribed and viewed.
Im in the camp, when it comes to egg morphing, that when a single drone is alone with no queen or hive in sight it creates its own limited amount of eggs and dies off.
Thank you for shouting out Bad Movie Bible, that is officially my favorite movie RUclips channel.
0:24 - If you only watched good things, you could change the name to “Caravan of Greatness”
Glad you called out Bad Movie Bible. Thats a great channel that needs more attention.
Once again we want the guy yelling Rodney back
I miss Blue Harvest
This man doesn’t speak for us.
@@DesX42S post total. Also I’m American and not longer understand democracy 😂
@@DesX42S He speaks for me
Rodneeeey!!
the level of realism in alien is insane, every environment and character feels lived in and real, the grunginess sells it so much to make it that much scarier. and it blows my mind that they’re on the planet with the alien eggs within fifteen minutes?? they just get straight to the point but the pacing never feels rushed, i genuinely love this movie so much
Tie in a red dwarf review
and they better damn well remember that Danny John-Jules was the voice of Gex (in the UK) if they do
1:43 “Hey, that’s the guy from the other RUclips channel!”
The fact the actors didn’t know about the chest burst scene is crazy to me. Imagine coming onto set, thinking it’s gonna be a chill scene, maybe have a brief idea on what’s gonna happen then *wham* chest burster
They knew something was going to emerge from Kane, what they didn't know is how gory it would be. Veronica Cartwright's reaction is totally genuine.
brilliant way to get such genuine reactions for sure
Apparently they got a bit nervous when they came on set to find the cameras draped in protective sheeting and the crew wearing rain ponchos.
They knew about the scene, it was literally in the script. What they didn't know was how gory it was going to be
Alien might be my favourite movie of all time. It's between that and John Carpenter's The Thing.
Nothing but love for Red Dwarf!
These two can actually hold my need for scrolling attention span. God bless them.
I really don't mind the fake Ash head. It's the cut from fake to real that really bothers me. All you had to do was cut away to someone else and back again, but instead, they jumpcut, and it just looks awful. A glaringly bad edit in an otherwise perfect film for me.
If they only listened to Ripley and her quarantine procedures, there would've only been one casualty.
Harry Dean Stanton the absolute GOAT, could watch him in anything
I like to believe that every HDS role is the same person, just keeps getting reborn in the same body, carrying all the trauma and just still going.
Love the 5 minutes of Better call Saul clips in this
TRIVIALIEN! Jeez you guys.... 😂
Alien is my favourite movie of all time. The atmosphere of that movie is unmatched by no other
Finally! Now we need the Predator series as well
“What is this ‘Thoughts & Prizes’ you speak of?”
-Mr. Gaslighting Movies
Fun fact: the original H.R. Giger alien costume was so skin-tight that the latex was almost transparency and glossy reflecting all the stage lights. So much so the visual effects team outsourced to California in order for the costume to not appear so reflective with the blue screen. It was then titled, “Blue Harvest” after the alien would harvest your time forced to watch another Ridley Scott movie.
Fun Fact: Alien is a loose remake of IT The Terror From Beyond Space.
By a fun coincidence, that was also the working title for the original Star Wars 1977
James not knowing what Mason was talking about with "Thoughts and Prizes" had me giggling. Not laughing, GIGGLING... too funny 😅
According to the audiobooks the face huggers do make you feel good
“speaking of normal are you familiar with egg morphing” is the journalism I expect while watching this wonderful channel
What's thoughts and prizes? Sounds like it could be a fun segment it just needs fleshed out a bit more
😂
The prize is either friendship with James, or bringing the "Rodney" bit back into the fold.
Corn of Coblin
I was hoping you guys would drop this piece of trivia, but it's cool, because now I get to!
Screenwriter Dan O'Bannon came up with the idea for the chestburster based on the pain of his Crohn's disease. I love this bit of trivia because I spent years describing my Crohn's pain as being "like the chestburster scene from Alien" before I learned that it was literally the inspiration!
O'Bannon died due to complications of Crohn's. RIP to a horror/sci-fi legend!
What makes this work for me is that the creature is not some supernatural, onmi-present think that will get you no matter what. Its an animal that can be killed. And its on a ship full of people with guns and flamethrowers. The chance they could win and still don't is what makes it scary for me. I love most of the Alien movies.
For me it’s the opposite, in this film the Xenomorph and the place it comes from feels completely supernatural and beyond anything humans can comprehend. It’s creepy rapey human-like characteristics are extension of that. The Xenomorph got a whole lot less interesting when it just became a big bug serving a hive.
@li-limandragon9287 nah. It's not supernatural, it's... alien..
@li-limandragon9287 nah. It's not supernatural, it's... alien..
@@li-limandragon9287
I mean Ash has a face hugger on the operating table 30 minutes into the movie. Its biological. It is literally "alien" to us and our biology, but that has nothing to do with the supernatural.
@@R0B1NG5It can off-screen teleport onto all the time and grow to the size of a man in seconds. In the original ending it was going to talk as well. I think viewing it purely from a biological lense spoils the gothic themes
"Can we CGI this?"
"Huh? CIG you mean? You saying you want a ciggy?"
"Yes, please. It is the 70s after all."
I’m massively hype for Alien Romulus
Hi massively hype for alien romulus, I'm dad
"It's probably because I didn't believe in the magic of Christmas" Brilliant.
Review Stargate.
Most nights these last few months I’ve been watching the alien movies and caravan of garbage to fall asleep, this is revolutionary
Do a video on Demolition Man!
"A fish called Selma" episode reference was gold 😂😂
RUclips kept me behind a 3 minute wall of unskippable ads but I made it. I’m here.
I normally use ad block, but not for these great mates
If you pay attention during firefly and serenity it's implied that they are also set in this universe. Just for instance; in the opening narration of serenity they explain when they found new worlds "each one teraformed, a process taking decades" which is directly quoted from the add playing in Aliens. It's also a very grubby, blue collar kind of show.
Yoooo, premiers at 22:00, in 22 minutes!
per chance on my end it premieres at 20:00 in 20 minutes
thank you laurence for giving us Kiryu content
100% correct about Lambert. If they made this movie today dumbasses would be losing there shit all over the internet.
Not to mention they'd be calling Ripley a Mary Sue, lambasting DEI for having a black character and for having all the white men die first...
God I hate the internet...
@XAVR_ yup. Then the sequel would start it all up again with Vasquez.
@@XAVR_it’s really funny to see Right wing reactionaries tout Ripley as a great example of a female hero (I mean, she is but on their reasoning) just considering how integral second wave feminism is to Alien. But since it’s a beloved classic, they can’t call it woke the way they would Doctor Who.
My favorite film of the series, with 3 coming in a close 2nd.
This felt super short for such an iconic movie
The thoughts and prizes payoff was so much better than I could have imagined 😂 10/10, no notes
Wow. I'm sharing & resharing this everyday this week!
I was skeptical, but y'all really did simplify some of the biggest ideas into bite-sized, beginning-level concepts.
Congrats! This is a unrivaled success in form, hopefully in popularity as well.
First Alien film is still scary. And it will ALWAYS be scary. It’s in my top 10.
15:12 Well, since Alien came out before Blade Runner, it's "did he ask the person who created Alien", which of course was himself.
Miss the Guy Who Shouts Rodney. He brought a sense of completion and security to everyone
james gaslighting maso about thoughts and prizes is peak this channel