6:00 as someone familiar with Warcraft lore, "I warmed up to it halfway not because I was endeared to the characters but I realized none of the names really mattered" is a mood
Isn't the "lead Orc" and "Lead female orc's" baby who eventually grows up to be Thrall Farseer the Orc protagonist from Warcraft 3 ? ... an Orc who was raised amongst humans.
im a warcraft fan and for some reason even read a few of the books, and honestly I enjoyed, not necessarily for lore accuracy, although they nailed the look for the most part, but because it reminds me of some cheesy epic 80s fantasy movie that barely made sense but had heart.
Maso going IN on Travis Fimmel’s scraggly beard made me get up and trim my own beard to prevent people talking about me in the same way. Thank you, Mason.
The original video game was unable to accurately recreate green tones and thr orcs were originally colored blue.... leading to the working title of blue harvest.
It's like a completely reverse version of avatar. Instead of Sci-fi, it's a magical fantasy world. Instead of the humans invading the tribal alien race, it's the tribal alien race invading the humans. Instead of blue, they're green. Something something blue harvest was working title of Star Wars.
Technically its the demons invading the tribal alien race and displacing them and corrupting them so they invade the humans and also the humans are kind of evil authoritarian assholes who kind of deserve to get smacked around a bit.
I remember it. I even got it on blue ray in the friggin tin box. I'm a huge warcraft fan. .not only the games but the books, too. and this movie really took a number on the lore portrayed in the source material. it hurt. for someone just watching it for fun or with no lore knowledge it may have been a somewhat fun watch but I really hated their guts for making doomhammer a frostwolf and killing durotan in a mak'gora
"Just to be clear, I'm also an orc racist" is such an amazing quote in isolation. It contains universes of context that must be unraveled at the quantum level.
Fun fact, orcs were originally supposed to be green but the archaic technology couldn’t render the color green, so they were changed to blue. Obviously this was fixed upon release, but during development orcs were colored blue. This led to the working title "Rodney"
I'm so glad we get Ebon Moss-Bachrach every time Mason says "here's the thing" now. It just makes me happy to see him. Unless he's actually bad, then I never liked him and shame on you guys.
I don't have any investment in WarCraft but I like Duncan Jones as a director and appreciate the fact that he put a lot of effort into trying to make this enjoyable for fans and non-fans.
The thing is, those who are invested know that non-fans easily watch blizzard lore videos and feel way more interested and entertained. I didn’t hate the movie but it’s sad how much worse it is than any random compilation of WoW cinematic in chronological order.
Fun fact: to power the opening of the Dark Portal, Gul'dan, the first orc warlock, and the one responsible for creating the Horde in the first place (albeit through his puppet Blackhand), had to suck out the souls of hundreds if not thousands of draenei, using them as fuel for his magic. The draenei (who look like blue humanoids, with males having face tentacles) are not native to Draenor, but instead to a world called Argus, which was dominated and broken by the Dark Titan Sargeras (who incidentally is the one possessing Medivh by the way) as he expanded the Burning Legion. The draenei (Exiled Ones in their language), led by the Prophet Velen, were able to escape Argus with help from angelic beings called Naaru, while most of their people, the Eredar, were transformed into demons by Sargeras. The draenei fled from world to world until reaching Draenor, where their dimensional vessel crashed. The world, by the way, is named after them. Gul'dan came into contact with the Eredar demonlord Kil'Jaeden the Deceiver, who is the real one responsible for the creation of the Horde. Kil'Jaeden was once Velen's dear friend, and has been hunting the draenei for millennia. This is why the Horde was especially cruel towards the draenei, even paving a huge road from their bones, which they called the Path of Glory. Anyway, the fact is that this backstory is why the initial drafts of the Warcraft movie was called "Blue Harvest".
I don't know if it could have drawn enough at the box office to warrant a sequel regardless of how good it was, so doing it in two parts would have been risky. It does suffer from being essentially two movies in one, though, and to me it always felt like the human half of the story was sort of half-baked and phoned-in. Kind of a feat that the orcs feel like the more real characters -- pretty stacked cast of mocap actors, too. The human half is also where the story more significantly deviates from the source material.
Did they say it was badly made? Don't really remember that. Maybe you're just going off the title of the video series. They specifically called it out as not really fitting that label.
"Why end on a real low?!" That was like a real breaking out of the Matrix moment for me. Usually Maso Yes-ands James with that trademark upbeat pessimistic attitude, this is the first time I saw him really invested, it's scary.
11:50 I was CONVINCED James would go "Glen Closet?" in that slightly inquisitive tone he uses when he's going for a pun that he knows isn't quite worth it.
It's funny how World of Warcraft has spent its entire game story trying to rewrite the past at how the Orcs were just blatantly evil and corrupt, but they just kept making them look worse and worse.
Yeah, hard to make them look sympathetic when their whole aesthetic is rotting skulls and bloody spikes on everything. Not to mention their just giant lower jaws that make their eyes look tiny and souless...well except for the female orcs, they get to look like green humans
@@bluecanine3374 They want to have their cake and eat it too with the Orcs. Make them strong, savage cool barbarians, but also pawn off all the evil they did on them being controlled by the burning legion. But then they did an entire expansion where the premise was garrosh traveling back in time to stop them from drinking the blood of mannaroth and becoming rage-fueled slaves to demons. but they STILL try to ruthlessly conquer azeroth even without being controlled by the burning legion. so they were ALWAYS bad. their treatment in prison camps was 100% justified, the humans would have been within their rights to just wipe them all out but they chose not to
As a Warcraft fan, I think I would have also loved this movie if they hadn't retconned the lore so much. Some major plot points in Warcraft after the 1st war (which this movie depicts) would not be possible due to these retcons. That being said, I enjoyed the movie and watched it 4 times even though I cringe hard whenever these plotholes appear lol
So many video game movies up to this point had such clear CONTEMPT for their source material -- Doom, Super Mario Bros., and so on. In recent years with Sonic and SMB Hollywood has FINALLY learned how to not be embarassed of the property it's adapting. But at the time this came out, WoW fans just wanted their favorite game to not be pissed all over on the big screen. I remember being in the theatre when the Murloc made its iconic gurgle, and i was like "Ok. This movie might actually like its audience! This might be cool!" and i still think I was right. it's a real shame they didn't let Duncan do another. It would have made a fine trilogy, or more. Lord knows there's enough source material to make as many movies as they felt like making (which sadly turned out to be ... one.)
@@horsemumbler1more like. I higher budget tv series. That would have been DOPE. There's too much lore to fit in a movie. Maybe a trilogy could make it but I'm sceptic
This is not the first time the boys have referenced The Lighthouse, so I would like to politely ask that they do an episode over The Lighthouse. Please.
I remember going to this knowing nothing about Warcraft (but being a fan of Duncan Jones) and the first scenes with the orcs got me hyped and then we cut to humans rambling off forty different names of characters and places with no explanation.
Need to rewatch but I remember a big problem I had was I wish it was more movies so they could chill with the pacing. It felt like it zipped along from scene to scene and felt like there was much more to tell. I mean obviously there is because the Warcraft story as a whole is pretty chunky, but still.
I quite like Duncan Jones's movie but I did have to explain to him once on twitter that the protagonist of Fight Club isn't supposed to be an aspiration figure and while he was very receptive to my points I'm still kinda concerned he's a movie director but didn't realise that before I told him
I agree, the nameless protag of Fight Club isnt an aspirational figure, his alter ego is. In moderation. The main problem with Tyler is the lack of moderation. Blowing up all of Wall Street and erasing all the debt is something very aspirational.
I saw Warcraft when it came out. My thoughts were, "If you like and know a decent amount of the games' lore, this movie is a fantastic recreation of a few chapters of a single game's campaign." Among other things, they dont really explain what Fel magic is and it is very important to what happened to the orcs in the story.
It would've been better if they explained why the orcs were green and why medivh went crazy instead of "cOs oF fElL" and not to make garona medivh's daughter. WTF was Duncan Jones smoking
I thought it was quite bad as a Warcraft fan at the time. If anything it was an illustration of what we all know, that Chris Metzen is a bad writer. A movie even by a competent director based on bad writing is going to struggle to be anything but bad itself. And struggle it did.
So I worked at Blizzard in Austin TX as a Game Master for WoW from 2007 to 2012. The executives would periodically come down to visit our office, and hold Q&As. In one of those Q&As I'm standing in line to ask my question (this was ages ago, I forget what I was asking about) but as my turn comes up, Todd Pawlowski who was the Customer Service VP decides to "guess my question" and proceeds to hijack my turn to "ask" about the Warcraft movie and then the executives took several minutes to talk to us about how the film was progressing. I didn't give a damn about the movie then, and I'm pretty sure none of the other hard working CS folks there cared much either. We were more concerned about silly things like pay & compensation, growth opportunities, problems with the game that caused us a lot of stress, etc. I did eventually get to ask my question which was mostly brushed off, but for several weeks, everyone who was in that Q&A when walking by me would ask if I wanted to know about the Warcraft movie.
Those were my favorite years of Wow. Hated Pandaria but still continued playing to this day. Thanks for making contact with GM back in the day fun. Now it's referring us, regardless of help needed, to forums. Very annoying.
This had me pissing my pants laughing. I love this movie, mostly because I have played WoW since I was about 5 years old. Went in as a 16 year old kid and loved looking at many of my favorite characters from the lore come to life. The CGI in this movie, for the time, I consider some of the best work ever done and some of the performances were astounding. I completely get why people would not like it, specially non-Warcraft fans but I find it thoroughly entertaining and fun.
0:11 this is why I love these boys cus they kill me straighttt away 😭 the sigh, the one up hand bit, and yes Maso… you definitely look like one of those two types 😂
I played a lot of WoW in Jr. High and HighSchool (2008-2012) which was peak World of Warcraft (about 11 million players), along with a lot of friends that ranged from some of the biggest but most lovable geeks to friends of mine that I was on the Soccer (Int Footall) team with and another friend of mine who was captain of our schools football team, so it was a huge variety of different people and when this came out, none of us really cared anymore. Lol, I remember telling my guy friends to not tell any of our female friends that we played WoW. Mostly because that ‘South Park’ Episode “Make Love, Not Warcraft” had come out a few years prior, which I love but, ya know.. still wanted to be able to get laid 😂 There is so much Lore in Wow, that to make a singular movie about it, is near impossible.
They could have made one with a smaller scope than trying to cram half the backstory of all the games into one movie. For example just do the story of the WC3 epilogue campaign.
Gul'dan was actually born disabled. He needed a walking stick to walk and was considered an outcast and was eventually thrown out of society. The demons that control Medivh called out to guldan and by using fel essentialy healed him and made him buff. Guldan then proceeds to return to the village that exiled him and murders every last one and burned the village to the ground.
A big problem was that instead of it being the plot of "Warcraft" they wanted it to be a "World of Warcraft" movie with the plot of "Warcraft." Spending half the movie with Orcs was a waste of time, and would be more important for "Warcraft 2." More time was needed for Medivh which they spent on the Orcs. While there will never be sequels now (lol), Medivh comes back for "Warcraft 3" so spending more time with him would've been intelligent. They really wanted to shoehorn orcs all over the movie as part of the "Horde vs Alliance" marketing which they thought would appeal to players of the MMO, instead of establishing humans, azeroth, you know, the world that's supposed to matter. The Warcraft RTS games and novels actually have a very coherent and interesting story that they could've easily stuck to but didn't because marketing + the MMO lol. Also people in green makeup would've looked fine for orcs. no one would care. That, or the whole film should've been cgi like the Warcraft cutscenes.
Mason is the guy who appears sad on the outside but is actually happy on the inside. James is the guy who appears happy on the outside but is actually sad on the inside.
The Warcraft movie is a guilty pleasure for me because as a fan I enjoy the Warcraft stuff, the orcs look great, and I like how they stylized the human armor. But also as a fan I realized, “They can’t make a sequel,” because the humans straight up lost the first war and the second war is a follow-up to Stormwind being burnt to the ground.
For the last few weeks, I see the movie they're watching and think "Imma skip this one, not really interested in this movie", but than I come back and I have a great time hearing you guys.
I suppose for the film, they wanted a dramatic contrast (and maybe to further separate it from LotR?), but as someone who played the games, I could never quite get behind just how frickin' HUGE they made the orcs in this.
@user-oc6on9nv1x I can only assume this comes from some supplemental material? From the sprites in WC1&2 and the models in WC3 and WoW, they were never even close to that big, at least when it comes to regular grunts and peons. Combine that with how small actual humans are compared to your average WC human, and it's a crazy contrast. Personally I think they work better at a smaller scale.
If you watch all their cinematics, they're about 7-8ft tall consistently. I think in game they kept them a bit smaller - but watch all the cinematics from Legion, Draenor and BfA and they're all pretty big/tall hunched over. They seemed to make them less hunched in the movie so they seem taller sometimes.
As someone who's never played WoW or the original Warcraft (though i do like Diablo 3), i can say that my wife and i really enjoyed this movie and still do. It's a nice, high-fantasy film that actually has a budget and good effects, and doesnt take itself too seriously.
Oh wow, I was just reminded there was a Warcraft movie. Who could be so cruel to remind me there was a Warcraft movie? Mason and James, the cruelest of the cruel.
This CoG video/reaction went exactly as expected, and it's delightful, Cause I like the movie and you can see the effort made, it was just too difficult of a task to not be allowed to do a LONG movie, like a renowned director would be allowed to. There's an overload of lore to draw from and to try not to leave too much plot holes laying around. Also there's the Classic Murloc aggro sound! it was my sms ringtone for like 5 years
James and Maso are the funniest orc racist/lighthouse keepers on yt and I got to say pretty good movie it's not perfect but visuals looks great and it was pretty fun one of the better video game movies also the half orc lady *nice*
As a Warcraft fan, I really like this movie, but I can see why the average critic/person might not like it. For one, its pretty generic, it doesn't do anything mindblowing, but as an adaptation of the source material, its great. For two, Warcraft lore is massive, and the movie tries to CRAM as much of it in as possible, which might scare the non-Warcraft fans. For three, it got announced which got everyone hyped up, and then got cancelled, which killed the hype, so when it finally came out everyone was like "eh".
I enjoyed it. It was better than what critics made it out to be. I realize that there is probably some bias in there having played the games. But Duncan Jones gave us better than what we would have had with Uwe Boll.
This is the best series of caravans ever!!!! Like I can't think of a set of movies that I have more interest in seeing these boys talk about. I was never going to watch these, but as a gamer and a movie lover I've always known of them. Thank you for this! I love you guys!! Rodney!!!
I saw this movie with some friends when it was in theaters. Funny enough, I’m pretty sure half of us (including myself) had never played/read anything Warcraft-related before. The only things I remembered was the son dying and the orcs being pretty well-designed.
If you're looking for trash video game movies, then I couldn't recommend Final Fantasy Spirits Within more. It nearly ruined Square-Enix and would be good SEO with the new FF14 expansion coming out July 2nd.
I think ‘Man with half a brick’ Mason is probably the perfect middle ground between ‘3 monitor set-up’ and ‘lives in a lighthouse’
I had never thought of that and you know.... You may just be more right than you knew 😂
You need three monitors if you have a habit of seeing both sides
We all know he lives in a lighthouse with his three monitors
That tracks…agreed
Trying to remember which episode was that from, could ou remind me?
6:00 as someone familiar with Warcraft lore, "I warmed up to it halfway not because I was endeared to the characters but I realized none of the names really mattered" is a mood
Isn't the "lead Orc" and "Lead female orc's" baby who eventually grows up to be Thrall Farseer the Orc protagonist from Warcraft 3 ? ... an Orc who was raised amongst humans.
@@Acezzeuscorrect
@@the-real-Lovefist Ah thanks, I got confused when they said the movie was not related to the games in any way.
@@Acezzeustbf the game is barely related to the lore
im a warcraft fan and for some reason even read a few of the books, and honestly I enjoyed, not necessarily for lore accuracy, although they nailed the look for the most part, but because it reminds me of some cheesy epic 80s fantasy movie that barely made sense but had heart.
0:53 Mason’s the guy who knows more Star Wars than a normal man but not enough Star Wars for Star Wars fans.
Something something Blue Harvest joke...
He knows more Star Wars than he would ever want to know about Star Wars.
If you know more about Star Wars then the normal man wouldn't that put you in the category of a Star Wars fan? Since that's pretty much the definition
@@ibeethatoneguy7807nobody should know as much about Star Wars as Star Wars fans. Down that path only lies madness.
But they're both that guy for Star Trek
Maso going IN on Travis Fimmel’s scraggly beard made me get up and trim my own beard to prevent people talking about me in the same way. Thank you, Mason.
We’re gonna need you to vacate the lighthouse and give back at least one monitor by the end of the week
I truly don't understand why any man does that scraggly beard thing. It is hideous.
Guy yelling Rodney wouldn’t have shamed you for this
It encouraged me to have a relationship with my son before I'm forced to by plot nessecity. Thanks Mason for saving my family.
James says he didn’t need to pee, even more concerned about his hydration levels now
I need the sound of at least 3 drinks being opened, preferably playing a little tune.
Came to say this!! I’m extremely concerned
Someone get this man a pop!
Came to the comments to see if anyone shared my concern after his comment! #givejamesadrinknow
It’s because they stopped including the guy yelling Rodney
fun fact: Orcs are green. that's why "triviacraft" is also known as "green trivia"
I thought it was because Rodney's favourite colour was green?
The original video game was unable to accurately recreate green tones and thr orcs were originally colored blue.... leading to the working title of blue harvest.
do Orcs use 3 monitors tho?
Also fun fact: In order to separate the movie from the games, studio executives considering changing the orcs from green to blue. This led to-
Also the original working title was Blue Harvest.
Mason's in the middle. A man who has one and a half monitors and lives in a light
He has 1 PC monitor, half a monitor lizard, and lives in a house
@@whatagreatnameaye1169 What about the other half of that lizard?
@@Dorian_sapiens Lost it in the divorce.
It's like a completely reverse version of avatar. Instead of Sci-fi, it's a magical fantasy world. Instead of the humans invading the tribal alien race, it's the tribal alien race invading the humans. Instead of blue, they're green. Something something blue harvest was working title of Star Wars.
Technically its the demons invading the tribal alien race and displacing them and corrupting them so they invade the humans and also the humans are kind of evil authoritarian assholes who kind of deserve to get smacked around a bit.
Green famine maybe
Except Warcraft came around way before Avatar was conceived
@slaidfh6211 Them being the reverse of each other works regardless of which came out first.
Warcraft Humans and Orcs came out in the 90's, the game in which the story is based off of
Maso is just a regular man who dreams of living in a lighthouse with a 3 monitor setup like everyone else
And thus he is doomed to be a man with 2 monitors each with screensaver images of lighthouses on them.
Why must you vex me with reminders of that which I can never have.
What's the third monitor for?
@@anathardayaldar red notice on repeat
The orc wizard is the epitomy of the phrase "I might be out of mana, but I ain't out of options".
Didn't he throw hands?
@@jonbaxter2254 Oh, hoho, yes he did.
@@jonbaxter2254all I remember is he did Drain Life, and Everyone Disliked That ™️.
He’s a warlock. Hate to be that pedantic, but I’m a gaming nerd so I simply cannot help myself. 😂
@@phantom0456 Don't know about that . I main Warlock on Hearthstone and all we did is hurt ourselves. 😁😁
"This is such a daunting undertaking for a movie that nobody saw..."
Hey I saw it!
"...or remembers."
Alright, fair point.
It came out 8 years ago, which somehow sounds longer and shorter ago than its release
@@jonbaxter2254 Right it was another lifetime ago and I'm not even young.
I remember it. I even got it on blue ray in the friggin tin box. I'm a huge warcraft fan. .not only the games but the books, too. and this movie really took a number on the lore portrayed in the source material. it hurt. for someone just watching it for fun or with no lore knowledge it may have been a somewhat fun watch but I really hated their guts for making doomhammer a frostwolf and killing durotan in a mak'gora
"Just to be clear, I'm also an orc racist" is such an amazing quote in isolation. It contains universes of context that must be unraveled at the quantum level.
Universes of Context, the new studio album from prog rock band Quantum Unravelings.
Fun fact, orcs were originally supposed to be green but the archaic technology couldn’t render the color green, so they were changed to blue. Obviously this was fixed upon release, but during development orcs were colored blue. This led to the working title "Rodney"
I've always thought Maso looked liked the human embodiment of Melbourne.
Now I'm just picturing Melbourne being filled with lighthouses.
Especially when he's wearing his glasses
Melbourne Florida, maybe
Fun fact: Reddit will let you know constantly that both this and Moon (2009) were directed by David Bowie’s son.
Actually I think it was directed by Duncan Jones
@@sanguillotine who is FAMOUSLY the son of legendary British pop superstar, Davey Jones, lead singer of the Monkees.
@@BrowncoatFairy RIP a legend
And here you are.
@@BrowncoatFairy of the Black Pearl fame!
To be fair, he also looks like he works at a local micro-brewery
This is the most accurate description I've seen in these comments.
I'm so glad we get Ebon Moss-Bachrach every time Mason says "here's the thing" now. It just makes me happy to see him.
Unless he's actually bad, then I never liked him and shame on you guys.
I keep thinking this guys name is a fancy ingredient...
I don't have any investment in WarCraft but I like Duncan Jones as a director and appreciate the fact that he put a lot of effort into trying to make this enjoyable for fans and non-fans.
The thing is, those who are invested know that non-fans easily watch blizzard lore videos and feel way more interested and entertained. I didn’t hate the movie but it’s sad how much worse it is than any random compilation of WoW cinematic in chronological order.
he did?
I very much enjoy the recurring "well, here's The Thing" gag.
That and "But" and showing a gnome's butt.
Fun fact: to power the opening of the Dark Portal, Gul'dan, the first orc warlock, and the one responsible for creating the Horde in the first place (albeit through his puppet Blackhand), had to suck out the souls of hundreds if not thousands of draenei, using them as fuel for his magic.
The draenei (who look like blue humanoids, with males having face tentacles) are not native to Draenor, but instead to a world called Argus, which was dominated and broken by the Dark Titan Sargeras (who incidentally is the one possessing Medivh by the way) as he expanded the Burning Legion. The draenei (Exiled Ones in their language), led by the Prophet Velen, were able to escape Argus with help from angelic beings called Naaru, while most of their people, the Eredar, were transformed into demons by Sargeras. The draenei fled from world to world until reaching Draenor, where their dimensional vessel crashed. The world, by the way, is named after them.
Gul'dan came into contact with the Eredar demonlord Kil'Jaeden the Deceiver, who is the real one responsible for the creation of the Horde. Kil'Jaeden was once Velen's dear friend, and has been hunting the draenei for millennia. This is why the Horde was especially cruel towards the draenei, even paving a huge road from their bones, which they called the Path of Glory.
Anyway, the fact is that this backstory is why the initial drafts of the Warcraft movie was called "Blue Harvest".
Good
Nah, this movie is not badly made. It's actually quite well made. It just tries to put too much into one film. It needed to be two movies.
Indeed. I feel like if they'd have not messed with that extra 40 minutes, this would be regarded as a classic.
agreed
I don't know if it could have drawn enough at the box office to warrant a sequel regardless of how good it was, so doing it in two parts would have been risky. It does suffer from being essentially two movies in one, though, and to me it always felt like the human half of the story was sort of half-baked and phoned-in. Kind of a feat that the orcs feel like the more real characters -- pretty stacked cast of mocap actors, too. The human half is also where the story more significantly deviates from the source material.
They needed more sexy orcs for sure
Did they say it was badly made? Don't really remember that. Maybe you're just going off the title of the video series. They specifically called it out as not really fitting that label.
"Why end on a real low?!"
That was like a real breaking out of the Matrix moment for me. Usually Maso Yes-ands James with that trademark upbeat pessimistic attitude, this is the first time I saw him really invested, it's scary.
The best part of the movie is when the son of the main guy dies in battle, and I had no idea he even had a son. I was like, "Who is that guy?"
the son was the absolute weakest useless part of the whole movie - 5000% unnecessary
The human plot, in general, is awful and so is the acting...
That “you need to leave” edit when Mason was being an orc racist was perfection lol
11:50 I was CONVINCED James would go "Glen Closet?" in that slightly inquisitive tone he uses when he's going for a pun that he knows isn't quite worth it.
It's funny how World of Warcraft has spent its entire game story trying to rewrite the past at how the Orcs were just blatantly evil and corrupt, but they just kept making them look worse and worse.
Yeah, hard to make them look sympathetic when their whole aesthetic is rotting skulls and bloody spikes on everything. Not to mention their just giant lower jaws that make their eyes look tiny and souless...well except for the female orcs, they get to look like green humans
@@bluecanine3374 They want to have their cake and eat it too with the Orcs. Make them strong, savage cool barbarians, but also pawn off all the evil they did on them being controlled by the burning legion. But then they did an entire expansion where the premise was garrosh traveling back in time to stop them from drinking the blood of mannaroth and becoming rage-fueled slaves to demons. but they STILL try to ruthlessly conquer azeroth even without being controlled by the burning legion. so they were ALWAYS bad. their treatment in prison camps was 100% justified, the humans would have been within their rights to just wipe them all out but they chose not to
@@bluecanine3374 Garona isn't exactly a great example of female orcs. Her last name is Halforcen. It was so silly they omitted it from the movie.
Mason's a man who loiters outside of a lighthouse with an Alienware laptop.
I saw him, it's very true.
Everyone knows Mason lives in a monitor and has a 3 lighthouse set up. NEVER LET THEM KNOW YOUR NEXT MOVE MASON!!
As someone who has never played a Warcraft game I loved this film.
As a Warcraft fan, I think I would have also loved this movie if they hadn't retconned the lore so much. Some major plot points in Warcraft after the 1st war (which this movie depicts) would not be possible due to these retcons.
That being said, I enjoyed the movie and watched it 4 times even though I cringe hard whenever these plotholes appear lol
@@JocoBreRbC Man I've been playing Warcraft games since Warcraft 1 and I still got lost during this movie lol
thats strange because as someone who loved the games I hated this film
So many video game movies up to this point had such clear CONTEMPT for their source material -- Doom, Super Mario Bros., and so on. In recent years with Sonic and SMB Hollywood has FINALLY learned how to not be embarassed of the property it's adapting. But at the time this came out, WoW fans just wanted their favorite game to not be pissed all over on the big screen.
I remember being in the theatre when the Murloc made its iconic gurgle, and i was like "Ok. This movie might actually like its audience! This might be cool!" and i still think I was right. it's a real shame they didn't let Duncan do another. It would have made a fine trilogy, or more. Lord knows there's enough source material to make as many movies as they felt like making (which sadly turned out to be ... one.)
Yeah. Warcraft III the movie would have been awesome.
@@horsemumbler1more like. I higher budget tv series. That would have been DOPE. There's too much lore to fit in a movie. Maybe a trilogy could make it but I'm sceptic
@@bobby4tw Precisely. The last of us and Fallout proved that a series is the best way to do video game adaptations.
This is not the first time the boys have referenced The Lighthouse, so I would like to politely ask that they do an episode over The Lighthouse. Please.
I remember going to this knowing nothing about Warcraft (but being a fan of Duncan Jones) and the first scenes with the orcs got me hyped and then we cut to humans rambling off forty different names of characters and places with no explanation.
Need to rewatch but I remember a big problem I had was I wish it was more movies so they could chill with the pacing. It felt like it zipped along from scene to scene and felt like there was much more to tell. I mean obviously there is because the Warcraft story as a whole is pretty chunky, but still.
The hurled horse edit was adorable.
I quite like Duncan Jones's movie but I did have to explain to him once on twitter that the protagonist of Fight Club isn't supposed to be an aspiration figure and while he was very receptive to my points I'm still kinda concerned he's a movie director but didn't realise that before I told him
Also as a Jeremy Corbyn supporter myself, he's very Lib Dem/Labour right.
I mean, at least he's not Sean Lennon though.
He did one good film, and naff all else.
@@jonbaxter2254 Moon is very good though.
I agree, the nameless protag of Fight Club isnt an aspirational figure, his alter ego is. In moderation. The main problem with Tyler is the lack of moderation. Blowing up all of Wall Street and erasing all the debt is something very aspirational.
@@pious83 that's the one I'm talking about
The editing jokes in this one are top notch. It's always good but Ben and Lawrence (im assuming) are on fire today
I saw Warcraft when it came out.
My thoughts were, "If you like and know a decent amount of the games' lore, this movie is a fantastic recreation of a few chapters of a single game's campaign."
Among other things, they dont really explain what Fel magic is and it is very important to what happened to the orcs in the story.
It wouldve been a lot better without the lame romance side plot and more action
It would've been better if they explained why the orcs were green and why medivh went crazy instead of "cOs oF fElL" and not to make garona medivh's daughter. WTF was Duncan Jones smoking
I thought it was quite bad as a Warcraft fan at the time. If anything it was an illustration of what we all know, that Chris Metzen is a bad writer. A movie even by a competent director based on bad writing is going to struggle to be anything but bad itself. And struggle it did.
@@TheSuperappelflap non-stop action is fucking boring.
sure it's explained: Fel magic is like regular magic but evil or something
The best part of this movie is the orc baby Moses growling at the camera at the end of the movie
Don't you love it when they have the actors stand in various big empty rooms without extras to fill it out, that each cost seven figures to build?
Was thinking the other day how after the German government closed that tax loophole on film losses I haven't heard about a single Uwe Boll movie
So I worked at Blizzard in Austin TX as a Game Master for WoW from 2007 to 2012. The executives would periodically come down to visit our office, and hold Q&As. In one of those Q&As I'm standing in line to ask my question (this was ages ago, I forget what I was asking about) but as my turn comes up, Todd Pawlowski who was the Customer Service VP decides to "guess my question" and proceeds to hijack my turn to "ask" about the Warcraft movie and then the executives took several minutes to talk to us about how the film was progressing.
I didn't give a damn about the movie then, and I'm pretty sure none of the other hard working CS folks there cared much either. We were more concerned about silly things like pay & compensation, growth opportunities, problems with the game that caused us a lot of stress, etc. I did eventually get to ask my question which was mostly brushed off, but for several weeks, everyone who was in that Q&A when walking by me would ask if I wanted to know about the Warcraft movie.
So what you're saying is, despite working for a seemingly 'fun' gaming company, it's still just as boring as working customer service in insurance.
@@kael13 It had its moments, but it was a job, it wasn't "I get paid to play video games all day"
Those were my favorite years of Wow. Hated Pandaria but still continued playing to this day. Thanks for making contact with GM back in the day fun. Now it's referring us, regardless of help needed, to forums. Very annoying.
"He strikes me more like a pig rolling down a hill, rather than a man."
-Master Sunday Movies (probably)
"Hey what's going on? Don't be a prick" Needs to be in the Subreddit rules.
Gonna watch this for the video and then immediately after I am going to listen to the extended version. I'm totally normal.
This had me pissing my pants laughing. I love this movie, mostly because I have played WoW since I was about 5 years old. Went in as a 16 year old kid and loved looking at many of my favorite characters from the lore come to life. The CGI in this movie, for the time, I consider some of the best work ever done and some of the performances were astounding. I completely get why people would not like it, specially non-Warcraft fans but I find it thoroughly entertaining and fun.
Love how Doctor Who is just quietly creeping into the language of these edits, peak taste
It does my heart good knowing that someone from Blizzard told Uwe Boll, no. Not just No but, specifically not to you. Someone had to say it.
"I'm a normal regular man" sounds like something an alien would say.
He's a bloody alien, I have the footage.
0:11 this is why I love these boys cus they kill me straighttt away 😭
the sigh, the one up hand bit, and yes Maso… you definitely look like one of those two types 😂
I played a lot of WoW in Jr. High and HighSchool (2008-2012) which was peak World of Warcraft (about 11 million players), along with a lot of friends that ranged from some of the biggest but most lovable geeks to friends of mine that I was on the Soccer (Int Footall) team with and another friend of mine who was captain of our schools football team, so it was a huge variety of different people and when this came out, none of us really cared anymore. Lol, I remember telling my guy friends to not tell any of our female friends that we played WoW. Mostly because that ‘South Park’ Episode “Make Love, Not Warcraft” had come out a few years prior, which I love but, ya know.. still wanted to be able to get laid 😂 There is so much Lore in Wow, that to make a singular movie about it, is near impossible.
I can tell you all that the third game would take it's own trilogy just to do it proper justice
They could have made one with a smaller scope than trying to cram half the backstory of all the games into one movie. For example just do the story of the WC3 epilogue campaign.
The editing on this video is top tier
Normal like 'very normal man' Zazlav or normal like 'casually buying a lighthouse Downey Jr'?
Well David Zazlav (Regular Man) is also Maseau's dad, so that would track
@@PatrickBoyda Does Bog Iger share custody?
Did everybody get together and just unanimously decide to start mispronouncing skeleton Skellingtons? Because I’m glad it makes me happy
I say it because of Hot Fuzz!
Bloody hell, 45 seconds into the video and there's like 5 banger jokes and edits.
You guys and the editors never miss.
Instead of saying for next week's video "here's a hint", just cut in Galvatron saying it to Starscream 🤣
That orc wizard being jacked was a surprise. “I might be out of mana, but I got these hands”
Gul'dan was actually born disabled. He needed a walking stick to walk and was considered an outcast and was eventually thrown out of society. The demons that control Medivh called out to guldan and by using fel essentialy healed him and made him buff. Guldan then proceeds to return to the village that exiled him and murders every last one and burned the village to the ground.
A big problem was that instead of it being the plot of "Warcraft" they wanted it to be a "World of Warcraft" movie with the plot of "Warcraft."
Spending half the movie with Orcs was a waste of time, and would be more important for "Warcraft 2." More time was needed for Medivh which they spent on the Orcs. While there will never be sequels now (lol), Medivh comes back for "Warcraft 3" so spending more time with him would've been intelligent.
They really wanted to shoehorn orcs all over the movie as part of the "Horde vs Alliance" marketing which they thought would appeal to players of the MMO, instead of establishing humans, azeroth, you know, the world that's supposed to matter.
The Warcraft RTS games and novels actually have a very coherent and interesting story that they could've easily stuck to but didn't because marketing + the MMO lol.
Also people in green makeup would've looked fine for orcs. no one would care. That, or the whole film should've been cgi like the Warcraft cutscenes.
Thanks editors! I enjoyed seeing more photos of the guys than normal in this episode!
Mason is the guy who appears sad on the outside but is actually happy on the inside. James is the guy who appears happy on the outside but is actually sad on the inside.
I like to think about the people riding Mason’s tram that have zero idea that he is a famous podcaster with millions of fans all over the world.
The Warcraft movie is a guilty pleasure for me because as a fan I enjoy the Warcraft stuff, the orcs look great, and I like how they stylized the human armor. But also as a fan I realized, “They can’t make a sequel,” because the humans straight up lost the first war and the second war is a follow-up to Stormwind being burnt to the ground.
For the last few weeks, I see the movie they're watching and think "Imma skip this one, not really interested in this movie", but than I come back and I have a great time hearing you guys.
One of the very few RUclipsrs that make me laugh out loud. The editing in this one was so funny ffs
The "you need to leave" is one of my favorite memes and had me in stiches here.
The "here's the Thing" cut always gets me.
Maso looks like a guy who lives in lighthouse repair shop with a two monitor set up. You can decide for yourself if that means he’s normal
I suppose for the film, they wanted a dramatic contrast (and maybe to further separate it from LotR?), but as someone who played the games, I could never quite get behind just how frickin' HUGE they made the orcs in this.
@user-oc6on9nv1x I can only assume this comes from some supplemental material? From the sprites in WC1&2 and the models in WC3 and WoW, they were never even close to that big, at least when it comes to regular grunts and peons.
Combine that with how small actual humans are compared to your average WC human, and it's a crazy contrast. Personally I think they work better at a smaller scale.
If you watch all their cinematics, they're about 7-8ft tall consistently. I think in game they kept them a bit smaller - but watch all the cinematics from Legion, Draenor and BfA and they're all pretty big/tall hunched over. They seemed to make them less hunched in the movie so they seem taller sometimes.
As someone who's never played WoW or the original Warcraft (though i do like Diablo 3), i can say that my wife and i really enjoyed this movie and still do. It's a nice, high-fantasy film that actually has a budget and good effects, and doesnt take itself too seriously.
Oh wow, I was just reminded there was a Warcraft movie. Who could be so cruel to remind me there was a Warcraft movie?
Mason and James, the cruelest of the cruel.
Why cruel? I thought it was an alright flick
I played Warcraft 2 and 3. And for someone that loved the lore and old games damn did I want these films to work
The editing on these just keeps getting better. Best editors on RUclips!
This CoG video/reaction went exactly as expected, and it's delightful, Cause I like the movie and you can see the effort made, it was just too difficult of a task to not be allowed to do a LONG movie, like a renowned director would be allowed to.
There's an overload of lore to draw from and to try not to leave too much plot holes laying around.
Also there's the Classic Murloc aggro sound! it was my sms ringtone for like 5 years
I stand by the orc parts being super solid
0:43 nice cameo from my hometown Plymouth!
Oh my god I'm glad someone else recognised it 😅
GREEN ARMY !
This is one of the best edited videos you guys have put out yet,
Well done @Ben and @Lawrence
James and Maso are the funniest orc racist/lighthouse keepers on yt and I got to say pretty good movie it's not perfect but visuals looks great and it was pretty fun one of the better video game movies also the half orc lady *nice*
I wasn't sure if I should subscribe but you've won me over you wonderful chaps.
Mysterious Universe are another good Aussie podcast duo 👍
As a Warcraft fan, I really like this movie, but I can see why the average critic/person might not like it. For one, its pretty generic, it doesn't do anything mindblowing, but as an adaptation of the source material, its great. For two, Warcraft lore is massive, and the movie tries to CRAM as much of it in as possible, which might scare the non-Warcraft fans. For three, it got announced which got everyone hyped up, and then got cancelled, which killed the hype, so when it finally came out everyone was like "eh".
I'd like to point out thousands of hours of warcraft didnt destroy my life it merely delayed it about 15 years
"World of Warcraft: Thaddeus Stormbreaker and the man with half a brick; He's got a gun."
I enjoyed it. It was better than what critics made it out to be. I realize that there is probably some bias in there having played the games. But Duncan Jones gave us better than what we would have had with Uwe Boll.
Mason have big 3 monitor energy but he uses it for an immersive tram simulator setup that costs thousands
If I had to assign one to each of them…
James is definitely the three-monitor setup guy
Mason would be living in a lighthouse
Orc Twitter is gonna end you for this video
compliments to the chef for the phenomenal editing in the video
As a fan of warcraft, I really like this movie. The CGI is gorgeous
This is the best series of caravans ever!!!! Like I can't think of a set of movies that I have more interest in seeing these boys talk about. I was never going to watch these, but as a gamer and a movie lover I've always known of them. Thank you for this! I love you guys!! Rodney!!!
I don't think mason is regular man or non-regular man. but even something in-between that.
I saw this movie with some friends when it was in theaters. Funny enough, I’m pretty sure half of us (including myself) had never played/read anything Warcraft-related before. The only things I remembered was the son dying and the orcs being pretty well-designed.
Orcs were neat on this film
How can you play warcraft 1 and 2... but not 3, which absolutely blew the first two out of the water?
Mason is a man who lives up the street from a lighthouse with two monitors, but one of them’s broken
Weird how people who arent fans just hated it. Its very highly regarded by the playerbase. Whatever though
Having Paula Patton as a tiny half orc instead of a buff orc warrior woman was cowardice of the highest order
I have met Maso and he is definitely not a regular man. He is quite irregular in fact
If you're looking for trash video game movies, then I couldn't recommend Final Fantasy Spirits Within more. It nearly ruined Square-Enix and would be good SEO with the new FF14 expansion coming out July 2nd.
The very moment you talked about how this is good compared to other recent movies that have come out, I got an ad for Disney's Wish.
They know.
Will leaving a like help Mason get a lighthouse?
The editing feels a lot like it was back when James used to edit these! Love it