IMO, the main problems with the Hobbit movies are (a) the overextended dull action scenes, and (b) the cringy stuff from the book that they couldn't leave out. Remove these elements and you'd have a much better trilogy, because there is lots of other stuff in the movies that is excellent.
Maybe I’m influenced from his other roles, but I feel like Martin Freeman doesn’t have that same kind of inherent optimism and joyfulness that the hobbits in the LOTR trilogy did. He seems a bit more reserved and cynical. But again this could just be me knowing the actor’s personality rather than the performance.
dude I am so happy to know I'm not the only one who starts the Brosnan Bond, Raimi Spiderman, or TF series compilations and fall asleep to the beautiful Aussie tones of James and Maso
I got so obsessed with these videos when they dropped that they single-handedly sparked a year long tolkien hyperfixation that changed my life so it’s so nice of y’all to make this compilation just for me
Watched a video about this just yesterday. Tolkien actually changed the Riddles in the Dark scene after The Hobbit was already published. Originally, Gollum just gave the Ring to Bilbo because he won the game. But, later on Tolkien decided that he wanted to do something more with the Ring and with Gollum's character progression it became unlikely he'd ever give it up willingly.
@@laurence2424later editions of the books had this change as well as a few minor edits and corrections over the years. The first editions with the old riddles scene are very hard to find and can be valuable
@@laurence2424he also changed it in cannon. Frodo and Gandalf talk about bilbo originally lying about how he got the ring. And tolkien is a “historian” telling this history of middle earth in the books. So it’s deeply committed - he could also pass it off as bad research on his part
@cebolaameaca yeah I learned about that recently, it's so cool to see him work it into the story rather than leave it unexplained which most people would have understood anyway.
I will never get over them casting Luke Evans as Bard, when he looks so much like Orlando Bloom that Legolas should have been asking Thranduil if there was anything he needed to confess about some visits to Lake Town.
You say that, but when my nearsighted self saw Bard my first thought was 'oh hey its the guy from Pirates of the Caribbean' Y'know, ignoring the obvious reason he couldn't be
I'm honestly so glad that I randomly found this channel a year ago. Only time a ever click a notification so quick is when I see a caravan of garbage 😂
I tried to watch it, but gave up after the dwarves show up. It took only a few minutes of that slimy, arrogant knob Balin and I said to myself, "Four hours of this guy? Hell no." and turned it off. I mean, who in the hell tought "For this movie we need a sexy dwarf"? These movies are unsavable, even without the bloated video game footage.
Dear Mason, One reason the songs, "Take it Easy" and, "Hotel California," sound so different could be because "Take it Easy" was originally written by Jackson Browne who lived next door to Glen Fry. Browne never finished the song so he gave it to Fry who finished writing it and recorded it with The Eagles. Jackson Browne eventually recorded his own version as well.
Im glad you guys talked about why these looked so bad. That super crisp detail, you said it best it makes it feel like youre in the room with the characters. I remember seeing my uncle's huge new el3d hd ultra k high def whatever, and it felt like the people were there in the room and it was just gross and uncanny
The Hobbit movies hold a special place in my heart, even though so much of them just doesn't work. I grew up obsessed with the LOTR movies, watched them dozens of times, but never got to experience them in theaters as I was a kid when they came out. So having THREE new movies coming out that would take me back to that world was a miracle to me. I waited all year for the premiere, I saw each Hobbit movie at least 3 times in theaters and would rewatch them endlessly at home, buy the LEGO sets and just obsess over them. Rewatching them now, they really aren't that great. But I can't help but love them just the same❤
I watched all three of these videos for the first time 2 hours ago and JUST now they decide to upload this supercut.... thanks mr sunday for ruining my life
Some day, when you're older, you'll appreciate the masterful trolling they gave you by waiting for you to finish the three separate videos before uploading this one.
I choose to believe that right after they sat down to start filming james said "I'm gonna mispronounce Legolas and Aragorn's name every single time, don't react I wanna read the comments"
After watching this I now need to morn once more for the passing of the Blue Harvest and Green Trivia bits. Thank god this was before the guy shouting Rodney, I don't think I could have taken it.
There is a fan edit that trims these three movies down to 1 movie that is pretty much ONLY the things from the book. Any way you guys would consider reviewing that one? it's basically a highlight reel of these three movies but it's only around 3 hrs long and completely watchable and enjoyable.
I understand not being able to get through LOTR but finishing the Hobbit, but he says he quit after he gets to the first song... THE HOBBIT HAS A SONG ON EVERY OTHER PAGE
I remember one of my friends and I favorite thing from the last one was how everything was “bred for war” it became a running joke in my friend group. “What are these for?“ “they’re only for one thing…. War!”
Read the book to my son at bedtime. After finishing it, I couldn't bring myself to watching the newer movies with him. Way too much to explain away to even enjoy them. We ended up watching the animated version and were very happy.
When you was talking about the round abouts and the fact that here in America we don't use them as much as other countries is so very true because when the town/city I live in put a couple round abouts in a new section of roads for the interstate the people lost their minds trying to figure out how to use the round abouts properly lol they caused so much chaos people were actually fist fighting over these roundabouts it was so funny
A pro tip for getting through any Tolkein novel: skip anything in italics. Tolkein put in those pages (and pages, and pages) of Elvish poetry as a prank. Obviously pranks were somewhat different before RUclips was invented. Every time anyone reads all the italics, Tolkein's ghost is all "lol lol lol jk".
Honestly people overhype Tolkien. His work was in constant alterations and evolutions- Yeah. Im a writer. I know what this looks like.- he was still working on the lore right up to hos death and he definitely didnt see this as his magnum opus. Honestly he seems more like a hobbyist writer then a fully passioned one.
@@BrandonDenny-we1rwI love the story but it's hard for me to get through the pages. I have the same problem with George rr Martin. His overall story is extremely fascinating but sometimes he takes forever to get there or puts in too much extra detail
@@willbeard4835 its why I havent released any of my own work. Well mainly because i want to sprinkle tidbits throughout the stories and side stories and id rather not try and shoehorn them in and rather they just be naturally occuring. Im also learning what not to do as a writer by looking at what everone else is doing wrong. Sooooon i will be satisfied with my own work
@@willbeard4835 i appreciate that. So ill be honest. I probably wont ever release it myself as a book series or anything. Ive struggled with writing the action scenes my entire life and ive accepted at this point i just cannot write them. Which is a problem when a lot of the books and stories have grand large fights. So Im going to put the whole story together with notes about side characters, plot points, restrictions on what side stories are allowed to be and whatnot. Big issue today is all these side stories and plots that people either have no interest in watching or dont have time to. Losing out on critical info. My side stories and characters will exist to deepen the lore, expand on the characters backstory and motives, but never progress the main plot. Those should be easter eggs and little nods or some extra depth versus advancing the main plotline. Im thinking i can work out a game or two, like 8 seasons of a tv show and a few movies and some side tangent shows. If i ever get a deal worked out ill link a reply about that.
Apparently one of the reasons films in high frame rates can look really fake is that the closer film motion is to reality (ie a frame rate that is closer to imperceptible) for us, the higher our brains set the "bar" for accepting the reality that is presented. So films running at 24 fps, whereby the frame rate is perceptible, also serves a secondary purpose of detaching the film from reality just enough that the mind gives what it sees on screen a little bit more plausibility.
@@ThreadBomb As a fervent film grain devotee, I agree. When studios try to remove grain, they are literally removing the image. Grain is to film image as pixels are the digital images. If you can see grain on a UHD 4K Bluray, it's great! You can actually see the film. Grain removal is akin to "brush stroke" removal for a painting.
A super long conversational episode based on The Hobbit trilogy? I don't know if I should be excited or terrified... I choose to be terrified! AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m glad someone else mentioned it bc I was starting to think I was the only one who remembered reading abt Smaug’s Italian cannoli slaves in the secret bonus chapter of The Hobbit that I swear totally exists!
Honestly, I always thought that considering all the production hell these movies went through - they turned out pretty decent. It's a small miracle they were completed at all...
The Hobbit trilogy is frustrating because there ARE traces of a better movie in there! The "Riddles in the Dark"-scene with Gollum was great and straight out of the book, Martin Freeman is great as Bilbo, Ian McKellen is wonderful as Gandalf as always, Smaug looks fantastic and there are some rare good heartfelt moments especially between Bilbo & Thorin and Bilbo & Gandalf. If they had kept it as one or even two movies, and relied on miniatures and costumes instead of CGI, it could have worked.
I was so excited to see the trolls story put to screen. It's my favourite part of the book and I love Bilbo retelling it in Fellowship. I was so so disappointed.
It will never NOT irritate me that fantasy movies/TV shows describe Dragons - have 4 legs and wings but every depiction of them is a Wyvern, with two legs and wings with fingers/claws. I will die on this hill.
I never knew that Viggo Mortensen screaming “Blue Harvest” as he broke his toe was the reason that Star Wars used the phrase as its working title. I always thought it was just a coincidence.
Even though the studio got super greedy and exploited the franchise by stretching it to a trilogy, there was still some good. I remember genuinely enjoying Bilbo & the first movie, then feeling strung along and rolling my eyes halfway through the second. Then just being mad by the cliffhanger ending that could have taken 15 minutes to show smaug burning the town and dying. They could have easily just made it 2 movies...by the time the third came out I didnt care, or even really know what they were supposed to be doing. Lots of pointless filler in the movies for padding. They knew audiences would show up just like star wars. I still think The Hobbit is better than the Sequel Trilogy.
I think three female ‘characters’ are mentioned. Galadriel, Lobilia Sackville-Baggins, and Fili/Kilo’s mother, who is unnamed. JRR just had the hardest time believing women could do anything.
@@ThreadBomb I mean, we had the vote by the time he wrote this, and women had kept the country running during WW1 almost entirely on their own. He would have been there for both of those and well able to remember them, his lack of female characters was more a him problem.
There are a few dozen different fan edits following different themes. Every one of them is better than the originals. My favourite is "Back Once Again" that is 2½ hours long. Here's the full list of them: The Dwarfed Edition The Tolkien Edit There and Back Again (Killstein) There and Back Again (A Hobbit's Cut) The Hobbit: An Expected Edit The Angry Cut J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit (Maple Films) The Spence Edit The Hobbit Recut The Bilbo Edition The Two Hour Edit (Fiona) The Hobbit Biblical Cut The Osom Fanedit Billy Batson's The Hobbit The Jobilt Edition The Little Hobbit The Hobbit: A Cut of Roast Mutton There and Back Again: The Composite Edition There and Back Again: A Hobbit's Tale (The Skuta Cut) The Hobbit: Bloat Free Edition The Hobbit Abridged (Hunt) The Hobbit: Wizard Cut The Hobbit Book Edit The Hobbit: Back Once Again The Hobbit: A Musically Enhanced Fanedit The Hobbit: Bread & Butter Edition The Hobbit: An Unextended Journey The Hobbit: The Anti-Cringe Cut The Hobbit (TimeTraveller edit) The Hobbit (M4 Book Edit) The Hobbit - There, and Back Again (Ed Edit) The Cardinal Cut The Hobbit: Prelude to the Lord of the Rings The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Edits
The arkenstone. Its blue. The story is literally a three movie saga about how it was harvested, lost, and they’re going to re-harvest it from a Dragon. Blue harvest. It feels too easy this time.
I'd strongly recommend the M4 Book Edit of the Hobbit movie, because it actually uses CG and Color Correction to unify the remaining footage of the movie, so you don't notice the stuff that was cut out. It's probably the best edit of the movie using the existing footage. Someday, someone will use AI to conjure up additional footage that will make the movie even better (and maybe even add in the footage of Dwalin fighting in the final battle that was shot but that never got special effects added to it,) but for now, the M4 Book Edit is the best we have.
These recaps end up actually being better content when you want to go back through Caravan of Garbage. So Ha! You thought you were being lazy in a bad month but actually you provided me with a service!
No one ever seems to understand that the bit from the behind the scenes where artists Alan Lee and John Howe are both working on their own red and blue versions of the same image wearing 3D glasses was an obvious joke...
Riddles in the dark was wayyy better in the book. The water, the boat, the darkness… Yet, Jackson thought it’d be good to have him crawling over rocks again. Crap.
I remember going to see the battle of the five armies when I was younger and towards the end of the movie the fire alarm went off, so we got free tickets to see it again so I got to sit through that twice.
5:32 this reminds me of how projects like Gemini man where they were filmed in crazy high framrates it causes a bunch of issues for makeup and cgi because suddenly all the little mistakes and stuff you dont normally notice are blatant because they're literally getting seen more than they usually are
In the defense of The Hobbit I do have to touch on what James said about who cares if Smaug joins Sauron. While Sauron does have many flying creatures at his disposal, none can compare to the destruction Smaug could cause. On top of it all, Smaug is practically invulnerable unless you hit him in his only weak spot. Rohan/Helms Deep would have been nothing for Smaug and he could''ve easily changed the fate of Middle Earth.
Yeah, i think Maso is underestimating how valuable Smaug would be to Sauron, as the last sentient dragon on middle earth. Getting him would be like getting a Stradivarius Kazoo, sure he's no Ancalagon, but he's still a Dragon, the last of Morgoth's great creations The weird Chickens the Nazgul ride come nowhere close to eclipsing smaug, even the eagles soundly countered them, even with their riders by them. But Smaug is an nigh-impenetrable, fire breathing fortress with one chink in his mail. Sauron would win simply by having Smaug by his side I think a better analogy for Smaug joining Sauron would be adding a F-22 raptor to a medieval army
I don’t know if yall realize, but at 21:40 when you’re talking about Woodstock you have a picture that’s shows up and it had a few pen*s in the picture. Just so you’re aware.
In the first Hobbit movie, Gandalf tells Bilbo that there are five wizards: himself, Saruman, Radagast, and the two blue wizards whose names he has forgotten. This is because the movies didn’t have the legal rights to use their names (Alatar and Pallando), as they were never mentioned in the Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit, only in supplemental materials. In remembrance of this, Peter Jackson changed the film’s working title to “Blue Harvest,” which was actually also-
I’ve felt for a long time that I wish Peter Jackson had just put a scene in where Gandalf has a conversation with the eagles so we wouldn’t have to hear 20 years of people wondering why they can’t just fly them to Mordor. Wouldn’t have to be hokey. Just make them speak pseudo telepathically like in Princess Mononoke.
@@StephenPike Yes but Uber drivers get financial compensation out of the service of transporting people around. What do the eagles get? Attacked by freaking felbeasts, thats what they get for their troubles.
@@mr.dr0bot731 They can talk and they have a king, the eagles I mean, not Uber drivers. They might have a king I just am unaware of who that person could be.
Richard Armitage aka Sexy Dwarf also does a podcast show for Wolverine where he voices Logan. Also he was in an old BBC Robin Hood show where he has a ton of eyeshadow the entire series 👍
As a nerd. I can promise you I have seldom sighed as much as when the dwarf set up a solid formation. A rarety in movies. BUT the elves decide **CHAOTIC MELEE** instead, cause that's how Hollywood wants battles
Agreed Martin Freeman was perfectly cast, my only gripe is that I'm constantly thinking in my head that Martin Freeman and Bob Mortimer are the same person. Not saying they're not, I've never seen them in the same room together, but everytime I see Bilbo, I think gee Bob is looking good.
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glad i have another hour long trilogy review video to wake up to at 3AM after falling asleep to caravan of garbage lmao.
It’s always either the transformers or iron man video I always wake up to 🤣
@connorheads4328 yeah that's all I get after watching CoG. Transformers or Iron Man
@@connorheads4328Tem o do Quarteto Fantástico.
@@JJJBunney001at this point I could probably repeat it word for word
transformers or rami spiderman for me haha@@connorheads4328
Did I recently watch these separately? Yes, yes I did. Will I rewatch this? Yes, yes I will.
I'm sure I had a life once.
I just rewatched them a few weeks ago. Gonna watch this entire thing right now.
IMO, the main problems with the Hobbit movies are (a) the overextended dull action scenes, and (b) the cringy stuff from the book that they couldn't leave out. Remove these elements and you'd have a much better trilogy, because there is lots of other stuff in the movies that is excellent.
Same 😂
Smaug is not the richest fictional character ever. $62 billion is pretty good, but compared to Black Panther's $90.7 trillion, that's chump change!
In spite of these movies many flaws, Martin Freeman was very well cast as Bilbo
He’s just playing Tim from The Office. If you’re familiar with that the whole trilogy is a bit of a farce, it’s hard to not see him as Tim.
They only hired him because the movie was over budget and they needed a Freeman
@@RileyDiaWould've been fun if they'd gone with Morgan Freeman
He definitely did that one thing he’s made a career out of, being awkward yet charismatic lol
Maybe I’m influenced from his other roles, but I feel like Martin Freeman doesn’t have that same kind of inherent optimism and joyfulness that the hobbits in the LOTR trilogy did. He seems a bit more reserved and cynical. But again this could just be me knowing the actor’s personality rather than the performance.
I still maintain that "Wearing hard hat in case of trebuchet" is the best gag insert that Ben & Laurence have ever done.
i love these compilations because they’re so much easier to fall asleep to
I actually did fall asleep in the cinema during the first one.
Same!
this and the transformers episode are my bedtime lullabies
I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE
dude I am so happy to know I'm not the only one who starts the Brosnan Bond, Raimi Spiderman, or TF series compilations and fall asleep to the beautiful Aussie tones of James and Maso
Gandalf’s original catchphrase was “I pity the fool” but it got changed.
"I pity the fool of a Took"
The character was originally going to be named Mr G
"Don't Give me no Jibba-Jabba"
Originally it was Gandalf the Black
I got so obsessed with these videos when they dropped that they single-handedly sparked a year long tolkien hyperfixation that changed my life so it’s so nice of y’all to make this compilation just for me
Thank u for sharing your special present with us all bc this video came along just in time for my regular tolkien hyperfixation to return 🎉
very nice
Every moment with a “read the book” cutaway has me cackling all over again. So good.
Watched a video about this just yesterday. Tolkien actually changed the Riddles in the Dark scene after The Hobbit was already published. Originally, Gollum just gave the Ring to Bilbo because he won the game. But, later on Tolkien decided that he wanted to do something more with the Ring and with Gollum's character progression it became unlikely he'd ever give it up willingly.
How did he change it? In one of his letters or like future releases of the hobbit were changed or something?
@@laurence2424later editions of the books had this change as well as a few minor edits and corrections over the years. The first editions with the old riddles scene are very hard to find and can be valuable
@@danjitheman that's cool to know, thanks
@@laurence2424he also changed it in cannon. Frodo and Gandalf talk about bilbo originally lying about how he got the ring. And tolkien is a “historian” telling this history of middle earth in the books. So it’s deeply committed - he could also pass it off as bad research on his part
@cebolaameaca yeah I learned about that recently, it's so cool to see him work it into the story rather than leave it unexplained which most people would have understood anyway.
'When he screamed 'blue harvest'' kills me every time
What is it about these two where every time they repeat a bit, it somehow never fails to get funnier and funnier when it should start getting old?
I will never get over them casting Luke Evans as Bard, when he looks so much like Orlando Bloom that Legolas should have been asking Thranduil if there was anything he needed to confess about some visits to Lake Town.
They... don't look similar.
They have some very vague similarities like slim face and jaw shape but that's about it.
You say that, but when my nearsighted self saw Bard my first thought was 'oh hey its the guy from Pirates of the Caribbean'
Y'know, ignoring the obvious reason he couldn't be
@@retsaMinnavoiGI think it’s the facial hair that tricks people into thinking they look similar
@@Ringothetankengine-qy1vl that's definitely possible.
I'm honestly so glad that I randomly found this channel a year ago. Only time a ever click a notification so quick is when I see a caravan of garbage 😂
The Tolkien edit Is the best version of the hobbit trilogy. Fixes most of the issues
I tried to watch it, but gave up after the dwarves show up. It took only a few minutes of that slimy, arrogant knob Balin and I said to myself, "Four hours of this guy? Hell no." and turned it off. I mean, who in the hell tought "For this movie we need a sexy dwarf"? These movies are unsavable, even without the bloated video game footage.
I know a real human woman who named her actual, human child Smaug. Because of the films, not even from the book.
This is the true desolation of Smaug.
Tbf it's a pretty cool name, guy will grow up to make a great hedge fund manager
@@vincentadultman6226i can see the headline now "smaug destroys whole coast of California with big gas leak"
Then he got bullied in school and shot with an arrow.
@@SergioLeRoux that wouldn't do much though, you need like a special iron arrow to kill him
Honestly I feel like that circles all the way around from being "oh no" back to being kinda sick? It's so lame that it might actually be rly cool
The editors argument between Ben and Laurence on what song James and Maso were talking about was hilarious
Dear Mason,
One reason the songs, "Take it Easy" and, "Hotel California," sound so different could be because "Take it Easy" was originally written by Jackson Browne who lived next door to Glen Fry. Browne never finished the song so he gave it to Fry who finished writing it and recorded it with The Eagles. Jackson Browne eventually recorded his own version as well.
Im glad you guys talked about why these looked so bad. That super crisp detail, you said it best it makes it feel like youre in the room with the characters. I remember seeing my uncle's huge new el3d hd ultra k high def whatever, and it felt like the people were there in the room and it was just gross and uncanny
I get the same feeling on HD TVs when people don´t have the movie-filter on.
The Hobbit movies hold a special place in my heart, even though so much of them just doesn't work. I grew up obsessed with the LOTR movies, watched them dozens of times, but never got to experience them in theaters as I was a kid when they came out. So having THREE new movies coming out that would take me back to that world was a miracle to me. I waited all year for the premiere, I saw each Hobbit movie at least 3 times in theaters and would rewatch them endlessly at home, buy the LEGO sets and just obsess over them. Rewatching them now, they really aren't that great. But I can't help but love them just the same❤
I watched all three of these videos for the first time 2 hours ago and JUST now they decide to upload this supercut.... thanks mr sunday for ruining my life
Some day, when you're older, you'll appreciate the masterful trolling they gave you by waiting for you to finish the three separate videos before uploading this one.
I choose to believe that right after they sat down to start filming james said "I'm gonna mispronounce Legolas and Aragorn's name every single time, don't react I wanna read the comments"
I am once again on my knees, begging for the fifth element caravan of garbage!!!
Maybe they don't want to do it right now
Once again, I am on my ass, praying for the glory of MULTI-PASS
Man, I have literally left this same comment. I'm glad I'm not the only one. James & Maso! Please give us a Caravan on Fifth Element!
But why? Why are you trying to force them to do it? Why is it so important to you? Strange, strange folk.
Luc Besson Trilogy that with Lucy and Valerian.
After watching this I now need to morn once more for the passing of the Blue Harvest and Green Trivia bits. Thank god this was before the guy shouting Rodney, I don't think I could have taken it.
Mourn*
morrow*
It’s a shame that we didn’t get any more Tintin movies because of this. That Spielberg one was incredible
I love that we all use these to fall asleep too
The Australian accents are comforting for some reason lol
“You would have shit bricks!” Title card joke with the visual was pure gold. Gentlemen of class.
Blue harvest and green trivia, all that’s missing is Rodney 😢
There is a fan edit that trims these three movies down to 1 movie that is pretty much ONLY the things from the book. Any way you guys would consider reviewing that one? it's basically a highlight reel of these three movies but it's only around 3 hrs long and completely watchable and enjoyable.
Happy to have my first CoG compilation since starting to watch them be the hobbit trilogy! Had some major feelings of dejavu for second.
lol, that tangent at 20mins lol, was cleaning my nails and had to look up. made my morning
When Viggo Mortensen kicked the helmet he actually shouted: ‘ RODNEY!’ but it was overdubbed in ADR 🎧
Burying Thorin with the arkenstone is like burying a crackhead with a crack rock...
"they're taking the hobbits to isengard" is such a 2000s meme LOL.
I like the idea that Smaug eradicated thousands of dwarves because he wanted their cannoli machine for himself
“I will not part with a *single piece of MY cannoli machine!!* “
Smaug the stupendously hungry
I understand not being able to get through LOTR but finishing the Hobbit, but he says he quit after he gets to the first song...
THE HOBBIT HAS A SONG ON EVERY OTHER PAGE
i wonder what he thinks of the big forest break that takes up 1/3 of each book :D
And you're supposed to just skip the songs anyways. You don't actually need to read the songs. It's a book, not a cop.
Man, I really miss the Blue Harvest running gag.
I remember one of my friends and I favorite thing from the last one was how everything was “bred for war” it became a running joke in my friend group. “What are these for?“ “they’re only for one thing…. War!”
Read the book to my son at bedtime. After finishing it, I couldn't bring myself to watching the newer movies with him. Way too much to explain away to even enjoy them. We ended up watching the animated version and were very happy.
When you was talking about the round abouts and the fact that here in America we don't use them as much as other countries is so very true because when the town/city I live in put a couple round abouts in a new section of roads for the interstate the people lost their minds trying to figure out how to use the round abouts properly lol they caused so much chaos people were actually fist fighting over these roundabouts it was so funny
Same, my hometown had to put out a jingle on the radio to tell/teach people how to use them 😭
i absolutely love when the editors line james and maso's conversation up with movie clips like at 39:42
A pro tip for getting through any Tolkein novel: skip anything in italics. Tolkein put in those pages (and pages, and pages) of Elvish poetry as a prank. Obviously pranks were somewhat different before RUclips was invented. Every time anyone reads all the italics, Tolkein's ghost is all "lol lol lol jk".
Honestly people overhype Tolkien. His work was in constant alterations and evolutions- Yeah. Im a writer. I know what this looks like.- he was still working on the lore right up to hos death and he definitely didnt see this as his magnum opus.
Honestly he seems more like a hobbyist writer then a fully passioned one.
@@BrandonDenny-we1rwI love the story but it's hard for me to get through the pages. I have the same problem with George rr Martin. His overall story is extremely fascinating but sometimes he takes forever to get there or puts in too much extra detail
@@willbeard4835 its why I havent released any of my own work. Well mainly because i want to sprinkle tidbits throughout the stories and side stories and id rather not try and shoehorn them in and rather they just be naturally occuring.
Im also learning what not to do as a writer by looking at what everone else is doing wrong.
Sooooon i will be satisfied with my own work
@@BrandonDenny-we1rw good luck bud. Shoot me a link when you finish
@@willbeard4835 i appreciate that.
So ill be honest. I probably wont ever release it myself as a book series or anything. Ive struggled with writing the action scenes my entire life and ive accepted at this point i just cannot write them. Which is a problem when a lot of the books and stories have grand large fights.
So Im going to put the whole story together with notes about side characters, plot points, restrictions on what side stories are allowed to be and whatnot.
Big issue today is all these side stories and plots that people either have no interest in watching or dont have time to. Losing out on critical info.
My side stories and characters will exist to deepen the lore, expand on the characters backstory and motives, but never progress the main plot. Those should be easter eggs and little nods or some extra depth versus advancing the main plotline.
Im thinking i can work out a game or two, like 8 seasons of a tv show and a few movies and some side tangent shows. If i ever get a deal worked out ill link a reply about that.
God these old eppisodes and the classic blue harvest joke. Gets me every time 😂
Good lord the last Blue Harvest bit in this is incredible.
Apparently one of the reasons films in high frame rates can look really fake is that the closer film motion is to reality (ie a frame rate that is closer to imperceptible) for us, the higher our brains set the "bar" for accepting the reality that is presented. So films running at 24 fps, whereby the frame rate is perceptible, also serves a secondary purpose of detaching the film from reality just enough that the mind gives what it sees on screen a little bit more plausibility.
I agree, and it's the same for film grain, which they now try to recreate with digital filters.
@@ThreadBomb As a fervent film grain devotee, I agree. When studios try to remove grain, they are literally removing the image. Grain is to film image as pixels are the digital images. If you can see grain on a UHD 4K Bluray, it's great! You can actually see the film. Grain removal is akin to "brush stroke" removal for a painting.
A super long conversational episode based on The Hobbit trilogy? I don't know if I should be excited or terrified... I choose to be terrified! AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
What are the odds that Bilbo not only finds the one ring but also the archenstone? That’s some next level fate shit right there 😂😂😂
Lmao I literally just finished watching the hobbit trilogy last night so this is impeccable timing 😂😂
I remember watching all three of these in the theater and all three times thinking, why was this any more than two movies?
I’m glad someone else mentioned it bc I was starting to think I was the only one who remembered reading abt Smaug’s Italian cannoli slaves in the secret bonus chapter of The Hobbit that I swear totally exists!
The irony of me having been up all night to have the first few words of this video be “we are well rested”
Didn't know how much I missed the blue harvest bit 😂
Honestly, I always thought that considering all the production hell these movies went through - they turned out pretty decent. It's a small miracle they were completed at all...
Laughs per minute was way up on this one! Love you guys.
The Hobbit trilogy is frustrating because there ARE traces of a better movie in there! The "Riddles in the Dark"-scene with Gollum was great and straight out of the book, Martin Freeman is great as Bilbo, Ian McKellen is wonderful as Gandalf as always, Smaug looks fantastic and there are some rare good heartfelt moments especially between Bilbo & Thorin and Bilbo & Gandalf. If they had kept it as one or even two movies, and relied on miniatures and costumes instead of CGI, it could have worked.
You'll be glad to know there are many fan edits which cut these down to one decent movie.
I was so excited to see the trolls story put to screen. It's my favourite part of the book and I love Bilbo retelling it in Fellowship. I was so so disappointed.
It will never NOT irritate me that fantasy movies/TV shows describe Dragons - have 4 legs and wings but every depiction of them is a Wyvern, with two legs and wings with fingers/claws. I will die on this hill.
weird hill to die on, but at least you are dead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Didn’t realize I was watching reruns until Blue Harvest 😂
Still watched it all.
I’d watch it again if you reuploaded it in a week.
Masons exhausted sigh at 33:12 was the funniest thing ever. I am literally in tears. omg
I never knew that Viggo Mortensen screaming “Blue Harvest” as he broke his toe was the reason that Star Wars used the phrase as its working title. I always thought it was just a coincidence.
This edit is the best way to start the year 🎉
Even though the studio got super greedy and exploited the franchise by stretching it to a trilogy, there was still some good. I remember genuinely enjoying Bilbo & the first movie, then feeling strung along and rolling my eyes halfway through the second. Then just being mad by the cliffhanger ending that could have taken 15 minutes to show smaug burning the town and dying. They could have easily just made it 2 movies...by the time the third came out I didnt care, or even really know what they were supposed to be doing. Lots of pointless filler in the movies for padding. They knew audiences would show up just like star wars. I still think The Hobbit is better than the Sequel Trilogy.
I think three female ‘characters’ are mentioned. Galadriel, Lobilia Sackville-Baggins, and Fili/Kilo’s mother, who is unnamed. JRR just had the hardest time believing women could do anything.
At the time he grew up, women weren't really allowed to do anything (compared to men, anyway).
@@ThreadBomb I mean, we had the vote by the time he wrote this, and women had kept the country running during WW1 almost entirely on their own. He would have been there for both of those and well able to remember them, his lack of female characters was more a him problem.
@@ThreadBomb that's not true at all??? he just didn't write many women characters, it's fine
Theres a fan edit that makes them all a single 1-2 hour movie, it's pretty good.
There are a few dozen different fan edits following different themes. Every one of them is better than the originals. My favourite is "Back Once Again" that is 2½ hours long. Here's the full list of them:
The Dwarfed Edition
The Tolkien Edit
There and Back Again (Killstein)
There and Back Again (A Hobbit's Cut)
The Hobbit: An Expected Edit
The Angry Cut
J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit (Maple Films)
The Spence Edit
The Hobbit Recut
The Bilbo Edition
The Two Hour Edit (Fiona)
The Hobbit Biblical Cut
The Osom Fanedit
Billy Batson's The Hobbit
The Jobilt Edition
The Little Hobbit
The Hobbit: A Cut of Roast Mutton
There and Back Again: The Composite Edition
There and Back Again: A Hobbit's Tale (The Skuta Cut)
The Hobbit: Bloat Free Edition
The Hobbit Abridged (Hunt)
The Hobbit: Wizard Cut
The Hobbit Book Edit
The Hobbit: Back Once Again
The Hobbit: A Musically Enhanced Fanedit
The Hobbit: Bread & Butter Edition
The Hobbit: An Unextended Journey
The Hobbit: The Anti-Cringe Cut
The Hobbit (TimeTraveller edit)
The Hobbit (M4 Book Edit)
The Hobbit - There, and Back Again (Ed Edit)
The Cardinal Cut
The Hobbit: Prelude to the Lord of the Rings
The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Edits
@@d.-_-.b wait what, seriously these exist? :D
Guess I'll have to do some digging!
@@tuc5987 The M4 book edit is superb given the restrictions of a fan edit! This is the version I will forever use in Middle Earth marathons.
I've watched both the M4 and the Cardinal Cut and I will never go back watching the entire trilogy. These two cuts are my official Hobbit movies now.
The arkenstone. Its blue. The story is literally a three movie saga about how it was harvested, lost, and they’re going to re-harvest it from a Dragon. Blue harvest.
It feels too easy this time.
Im always up for Caravan of Garbage at 5AM
Garbage is right! Follow up the greatest cinematic trilogy of all time with this tripe!
Check out my Hobbit trilogy edit on my channel!
@@edharris7735 no!
"And in the book it's revealed his wife took it all in the divorce, so he doesn't have any of that stuff" 😂
I'd strongly recommend the M4 Book Edit of the Hobbit movie, because it actually uses CG and Color Correction to unify the remaining footage of the movie, so you don't notice the stuff that was cut out. It's probably the best edit of the movie using the existing footage. Someday, someone will use AI to conjure up additional footage that will make the movie even better (and maybe even add in the footage of Dwalin fighting in the final battle that was shot but that never got special effects added to it,) but for now, the M4 Book Edit is the best we have.
The Zelda music in this one was a great touch!
I rewatch your videos anyways, I’m more than okay with you squishing them together!
A Jekyll shout-out?!? I loved that show, and nobody ever talks about it! Nice
These recaps end up actually being better content when you want to go back through Caravan of Garbage. So Ha! You thought you were being lazy in a bad month but actually you provided me with a service!
I rewatch Caravan of Garbage so much that it doesn't even bother me that you just stitch them together and call it a new video
As an American, I wholeheartedly accept the comparison of our military to Sauron's army.
I just watched through all of these last week.. but I won’t let that stop me from watching this now
No one ever seems to understand that the bit from the behind the scenes where artists Alan Lee and John Howe are both working on their own red and blue versions of the same image wearing 3D glasses was an obvious joke...
Good point.
Riddles in the dark was wayyy better in the book.
The water, the boat, the darkness…
Yet, Jackson thought it’d be good to have him crawling over rocks again. Crap.
I feel like this has to be the funniest episode yet. Front to back of this I kept having to rewind it because in was cackling over the video
Lord have I been waiting for this
“Just say some medieval stuff.” 😂
I remember going to see the battle of the five armies when I was younger and towards the end of the movie the fire alarm went off, so we got free tickets to see it again so I got to sit through that twice.
5:32 this reminds me of how projects like Gemini man where they were filmed in crazy high framrates it causes a bunch of issues for makeup and cgi because suddenly all the little mistakes and stuff you dont normally notice are blatant because they're literally getting seen more than they usually are
In the defense of The Hobbit I do have to touch on what James said about who cares if Smaug joins Sauron. While Sauron does have many flying creatures at his disposal, none can compare to the destruction Smaug could cause. On top of it all, Smaug is practically invulnerable unless you hit him in his only weak spot. Rohan/Helms Deep would have been nothing for Smaug and he could''ve easily changed the fate of Middle Earth.
Yeah, i think Maso is underestimating how valuable Smaug would be to Sauron, as the last sentient dragon on middle earth. Getting him would be like getting a Stradivarius Kazoo, sure he's no Ancalagon, but he's still a Dragon, the last of Morgoth's great creations
The weird Chickens the Nazgul ride come nowhere close to eclipsing smaug, even the eagles soundly countered them, even with their riders by them. But Smaug is an nigh-impenetrable, fire breathing fortress with one chink in his mail. Sauron would win simply by having Smaug by his side
I think a better analogy for Smaug joining Sauron would be adding a F-22 raptor to a medieval army
Meanwhile the animated Rankin/Bass version is still my favorite.
The one-film edits you can download for free were clearly worth it.
Loved The Hobbit book as a kid. Never could make it through The Two Towers.
I don’t know if yall realize, but at 21:40 when you’re talking about Woodstock you have a picture that’s shows up and it had a few pen*s in the picture. Just so you’re aware.
"He's bloody off the chops mate !''
In the first Hobbit movie, Gandalf tells Bilbo that there are five wizards: himself, Saruman, Radagast, and the two blue wizards whose names he has forgotten. This is because the movies didn’t have the legal rights to use their names (Alatar and Pallando), as they were never mentioned in the Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit, only in supplemental materials.
In remembrance of this, Peter Jackson changed the film’s working title to “Blue Harvest,” which was actually also-
The eagles are sentient creatures. They are not a feathered "Uber" that are just waiting to make a ring-wielding munchkins life a little easier.
I’ve felt for a long time that I wish Peter Jackson had just put a scene in where Gandalf has a conversation with the eagles so we wouldn’t have to hear 20 years of people wondering why they can’t just fly them to Mordor.
Wouldn’t have to be hokey. Just make them speak pseudo telepathically like in Princess Mononoke.
Prove it
Funnily enough - Uber drivers? Also sentient beings.
@@StephenPike Yes but Uber drivers get financial compensation out of the service of transporting people around. What do the eagles get? Attacked by freaking felbeasts, thats what they get for their troubles.
@@mr.dr0bot731 They can talk and they have a king, the eagles I mean, not Uber drivers. They might have a king I just am unaware of who that person could be.
I've read the Hobbit/LOTR books 3 times. I read the songs the 2nd time, and feel comfortable skipping them from now on.
Richard Armitage aka Sexy Dwarf also does a podcast show for Wolverine where he voices Logan. Also he was in an old BBC Robin Hood show where he has a ton of eyeshadow the entire series 👍
That Robin Hood show was so good! My mother was very invested in his character for reasons I as a child couldn't fathom 😅
One time a coworker asked me to come over and watch the hobbit trilogy and I said no thanks
I love that one of the dwarfs has an axe head in his head to differentiate him - and I didn’t even notice.
Can we bring back Blue Harvest in 2024? It was such a delight to see it return here.
Blue Harvest joke...You haven't aged a day.
As a nerd. I can promise you I have seldom sighed as much as when the dwarf set up a solid formation. A rarety in movies. BUT the elves decide **CHAOTIC MELEE** instead, cause that's how Hollywood wants battles
Agreed Martin Freeman was perfectly cast, my only gripe is that I'm constantly thinking in my head that Martin Freeman and Bob Mortimer are the same person. Not saying they're not, I've never seen them in the same room together, but everytime I see Bilbo, I think gee Bob is looking good.
How did you know I just watched the original triology, refused to watch this crap and was craving more LOTR content? HOW DID YOU KNOW
My favorite part in LOTR: Fellowship of the Ring is when Andrew Dice Clay breaks character and just shouts “oh!” And hip thrusts. Very posh
Literally finished the trilogy yesterday, the video was made for me 😂