I should have known that after decades of being unable to find someone else who shares my love of devil May cry 2, it would eventually be a Thor who shared with me this opinion
I love how Thor takes the worst game in a saga and says: this, this little boy here is the best thing that has happened to humanity since pineapple pizza was invented.
@@throwawaydetective9080Nah we still would. I remember hearing somewhere that DMC3 was already planned for development, but Capcom just wanted a sequel ASAP.
"nothing encouraged me to make videos or music either and i still did it because i wanted to because i'm not a boring bitch with no imagination" this deeply, deeply resonated with me lol
Half-inspirational, half-"I'm-nothing-like-yall-fish-meme." Can't imagine glazing DMC2, a crappy product of crunch and mismanagement, but I guess I'm a boring asshole for not liking it
2 WAS the last in the timeline for a while, but they retconned it to be between the Anime and 4, the new implication being that Dante was just depressed over killing Vergil in 1 and got excited again when he learned about Nero.
@davebob4973 It's not the most wholesome given Dante still does the woohoo stuff mostly so he doesn't bum people out but it is nice that he got pulled out of a total slump. Also the anime is pretty good, right after 1 and depicts him taking more normal Devil Hunter jobs to pay the bills.
Small correction to the correction: It was with the release of DMC5 that the timeline got switched. Initially, the timeline implied that Dante got depressed in the anime, after killing his brother, only to be super excited again in 4, only to again be super depressed in DMC2.
Ugh dmc fans grinding their combos instead of lore again. 2 takes place right after a novel where in the end he has to kill a trish lookalike and is wounded by that
For the record, DMC2 used to be the last point in the DMC timeline, but with the release of DMC5 the timeline has been retconned so that DMC2 comes before DMC4 and the anime to be Dante's depressive episode after DMC1 with the death of his brother making it so Dante has no one left leaving him in a very emotionally unstable place, which makes the beginning of DMC4 really interesting because Dante starts off like a stone faced killer until he starts to realize who Nero is and slowly becomes more jokey and fun loving like younger Dante.
I feel like that doesn't quite work because it makes DMC 2 Dante's personality interfere with the then-logical leap from Anime Dante to DMC4 Dante. Honestly, DMC2 is an inconvenient nuisance on almost all fronts. I say almost because I kinda like Lucia😂
@@devinf.8317 I mean yeah, but where does DMC2 Dante fit in? I can see him going from brooding to a stone cold killer (Anime to beginning of DMC4) but the snarkiness in DMC2 wouldn't have a place anymore
2’a weird because originally it was before 4 (hence why Dante starts the game silent and menacing like 2), then after DmC it was retconned to be after 4, then when 5 was announced they put it back before 4. It’s very strange and I don’t get why they bothered changing it in the first place other than wanting to pretend it’s a more solid ending point so DmC could be a thing.
Kya: Dark Lineage had that in some places as well. Loved that Flying Forest skybox. Hunter's Domain and Forbidden Island skyboxes were solid too. The art direction of that game was very similar to Rayman 2 and 3.
this is my favorite way of defending media, you didn't talk down the other games, you just proposed that this game is perfectly enjoyable with only a little change in perspective, never stepping into "people were wrong about this game all along" and just saying why you love it. Positivity all the way through. That said you did reference gex like 5 times so im sorry but i gotta doxx u and make up rumors on twitter bye
This is how everyone should interact with media. Everyone has their own perspectives, values, and backgrounds that shape/influence their opinions so there is literally no point in arguing about and comparing media. Voice what you want but don’t expect people to agree, just be respectful about it.
Watching this channel for a good while now has genuinely re-programmed me to appreciate alota big and small things in videogames and other forms of art that i would not have noticed otherwise Seeing the good in seemingly bad things do be really based Thank you Thor Pika 8>
Enjoyed the video! I played through the DMC franchise from beginning to end for the first time this year. Still obsessed with 3 at the moment, savoring DMD mode as I slowly chip through it. I felt absolutely underprepared for just how much I wound up disliking 2, for all the reasons you've already heard and readily acknowledge here. Very nice to hear someone say "yeah you're not wrong about what this game is, but listen: it's cool anyways lmao." Gotta respectfully disagree on Gunstar Heroes and Streets of Rage though, and the sentiment of "repetitive arcade action" as a whole. The strength of arcade action is that it absolutely can serve as mindless explode-y, button mash-y, goof-y, sill-y, but can also be incredibly nuanced and expressive if you spend more time with it. The kind of niche advanced strategies in those games, animation cancels and abuse and all that, is exactly the kind of stuff that inspired DMC3, I'd argue. It's just that DMC3 actively demands you engage with that kind of stuff, whereas arcade beat 'em ups were more than happy to just let you keep spending quarters instead. They're very different games depending on who's playing them, which in and of itself is very cool!
Felt the same about how he said that Gungrave is just mashing square, ignoring the dodging, when to do the gunkata and when not to, the special shots, the melee that can reflect rockets, having to move through the stage in a way that keeps your combo up...
i actually love dmc2 as well. it’s not nearly as good of a hack and slash as the other 2, but i think it’s still a fun action game and the art direction is just so bonkers. i love permanently juggling enemies in midair with gunfire and i think stoic dante is cool even if he’s not as charming. best outfit in the series too, fight me. it reminds me of the second matrix movie. not as good as the first but there’s lots to like and i’m glad it exists
Nice video I wouldn't say that DMC2 was my fave in the series but I remember playing it when it came out and having a good time with it. I was surprised to find out later just how much hate it had from fans of the series. An overhated title for sure, happy to see some love being thrown on it
I'm convinced the definitive DMC2 experience is the Lucia disc. It just feels like Dante was shoved to the forefront of the game late in development. As everyone who has ever played the game has demonstrated, his shit is just busted, his bosses are ???, it beggars belief that this was what they really set out to make. I think they were scrambling to scrape something together for a Dante campaign. Maybe he was intended as a bonus character, like Vergil in later games, something fun to unlock because who cares, but had to make it for real at the eleventh hour. I get the impression Capcom viewed the DMC franchise as an action equivalent to Resident Evil with a rotating cast of protagonists, and this was supposed to be Lucia's game. That bears out if you play both campaigns side by side. Most of the content is shared across both discs, but it all feels better with Lucia - I distinctly remember a lightbulb going off when I tried it for the first time - with Lucia, it actually felt like the enemies complemented her moveset. Her kick combo staggers enemies, breaking their guard and opening them up to the higher damage sword combos. It's not just musou anymore. Unfortunately, players' universal hatred of Dante's disc meant that the vast majority never even put Lucia's disc in their console and so there are probably like a dozen people who even gave it a chance.
Yeah this is pretty much how I felt. Like I still don't really like DMC2 but it really does feel like Lucia's game in a lot of ways and it's super built around her moveset and it makes the game more engaging at least.
There is concept art showing Dante was not even going to be in the game. It originally starred a new male character and was supposed to be open world. Pieces of that open world were cut up into the skyscraper and upper city sections of the final game.
The Vinesauce fans will descend on this video in masses to say dumb deeemcee2 memes. I am giving you this warning as one of them and an apology in advance
DMC2 is great c: The dark atmosphere is amazing, the game looks really good IMO, and it has one of the best soundtracks ever! Even though I love Dante's personality in the other games, I also love how serious he is here :3 Lucia is great as well, and her Devil Trigger design is absolutely beautiful. The main baddie... eh... That's not that great twt Same as the fact that guns just reign supreme... But atmosphere-wise, and especially musically-wise it is absolutely stunning. Mission Start and Eye of the Wind Lower Town are some of my favorites :D
I always loved how unapologetic you are about liking things that are objectively messy and jank. You manage to not sound like a contrarian at all when praising these weird fucked up games. Keep doing your thing Thor. Hope some day do make a rap album
i enjoy what they were trying to go for with dmc2, for the longest time i've been imagining "what would dmc2 look like if the devs actually executed on what they wanted to make", honestly thinking about that has been more fun than the actual game itself for me though if everything was exactly the same but the stinger was dmc1's stinger then i bet a lot of people would be more willing to go to bat for the game lol
Youre the most inspiring gaming centered youtuber on this entire platform, for my money You never fail to teach me a new way to look at the entire medium Your writing is brilliant while feeling so goofy and casual And your music and editing are fuckin perfect. This channel is crazy
I replayed through 1-3 for the first time in about 20 years, and good lord does 2 feel like it's punishing the player at every move. But it does have some style and interesting ideas that would continue through the series. Also, best infested tank and chopper will always be ps2 Shinobi.
Honestly, this gives me a great moment to play DMC2's advocate and say that I also enjoy the game. The dodging, high jumping and directional combo attacks makes the fight pretty fun for me. And I do like the gothic city setting as well. I would've made a video like this to give some praise to the game, but I never had the guts to do so. That, and I'm practically a nobody in the space of RUclips. Which makes me glad that you'd make this video sharing the same enjoyment of DMC2 as I do. Makes me a slight happier that I'm not alone in liking the game :)
17:48 I think you mean from DmC onward. DMC4 very much has a Resident Evil design with interconnected levels, key items, spooky castle with a secret lab, even has a timed escape sequence with an explosion at the end.
Yeah this video kinda makes it sound like he didn't even play DMC4 lol. It's probably tied with 1 with being the least "modern/urban", taking place in the cool as hell European church town (that does have a few dingy back alleys), jungles, caves, icefields, castles, ice castles, on top of a massive crumbling god-statue and so on. Nothing about it gives me "monster energy" vibes, and it has that sense of adventure that Thor mentioned liking.
Let’s effen GOOOOOOO An old friend of mine I eventually lost contact with put me on to this game, also put my attention to Final Fantasy X-2 as well! Still awaiting the day he could play that eventual “stuck in X” game that’s mentioned in passing!
DMC2 is the first game in the series I ever played and is also the reason why I avoided playing other games in the series for quite a while. There's no shame in liking something everyone else dislikes, lord knows I like my fair share of media other people consider garbage, so you do you bro.
Wooooo! Yeah! So glad I'm not alone in this! This video is like a mirror opposite of GamingBrit's Nights vs Klonoa video, a good and positive video I expected from you vs bad negative one I did not expect from him. Both even feature DMC2! I also enjoy the entire series but love 2 and DMC:DMC the most and 3 the least, the opposite of the fandom at large.
Duuuuude YES DMC2 was my favorite DMC for so long. (now it's "DmC" 100%) It's beyond rough, but there was so much to love if you dig in. Unlocking Trish was awesome. Slamming that sword into the ground and then just punching the shit out of the demons. Man that was great times.
Thor has conditioned me into expecting a wild jaunt from the stated focus of the video into some abstract esoteric tangent so well that I'm honestly shocked when they DON'T veer into another topic. Anyway, another great video.
the mosaic tile texture is actually taken from the mosaics of the alhambra palace in spain. i feel like it's a you kind of building since it's renowned for its architecture, waterworks, and intricate detailing. definitely evokes the sophistifuture aesthetic even though it was built centuries ago
@@Hummus420he may not even be, though - there's plenty of men who just carry the aesthetic, and many non binary people who embrace both he/she pronouns. Lots of people live outside of the gender politics we're so used to seeing these days.
I love the DMC series so much that I literally write edgelord power fantasy fanfic about it, so getting a whole video of ThorThoughts(tm) about the aesthetics of the games is incredibly appreciated! Thank you for your service
Dude I thought I was the only one! I constantly get weird looks when I tell ppl that it's my favorite dmc. Glad someone has some sense. Thanks for the validation Thor!
The start of this video made me realise that I would really love to hear you talk about Quake, I honestly think you'd really appreciate the weird aesthetics it has because it's actually two games that got awkwardly merged together
Oh no, Thor, you've never had a Sobe??? Only the pink ones were good tbh, but they were *gooood.* Sorry for your loss Edit: also there is actually milk in one of the pink ones, maybe a couple more but I'm not positive lmao
thor is such a good person, idk why but they give me some really good vibes. I really aprecciate the apreciatiation for games as art without thinking much only about game mechanics and more about vibes and feelings, i dont care if people think its imature, i just love to watch videos that are written with such unique and personal style. All thor videos that i watched are soo nice, i like the way the script have some wordplay and some silly rhymes, all comes from the heart man. another great video, thanks alot
One thing the game really needed was letting you shoot while just holding the button down. It also needed a big overhaul, but speaking of the game as it is, and not as it may be, it really needed to let you just hold down the button and shoot.
Okay real talk I started playing with the “Whatever. I’m so cool” mentality and the game is actually fantastic for me that way. Just roleplay as an emo edge lord badass and you’ll be fine. It’s meant for you to just look cool.
Can’t lie this brought back pure nostalgia with this game. This was how I got introduced to the series. Then I went back played one & was hyped about 3 when it came along. I start seeing a lot of hate for this game in later years didn’t see why until I see past footage of stuff I didn’t pay attention to back then 😅 this game I still hold bear & dear bc it got me into the genre with the GOW & more of the PS2 era
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NEW ALBUM: thorhighheels.bandcamp.com/album/willems-house
snot on streaming yet but will be very soon!
will it go on Soundcloud?
Between this, Ginger Root and Paira the summer's sorted for good new music. My neighbors WILL enjoy the album, like it or not.
Thor you fill my dark soul with light
Ayo?
Haha real deal comment here
I should have known that after decades of being unable to find someone else who shares my love of devil May cry 2, it would eventually be a Thor who shared with me this opinion
light. light. light.
"Liiiiiiiight" (voice-squeaks)
I love how Thor takes the worst game in a saga and says: this, this little boy here is the best thing that has happened to humanity since pineapple pizza was invented.
Well without it we wouldn’t have DMC3
@@throwawaydetective9080Nah we still would. I remember hearing somewhere that DMC3 was already planned for development, but Capcom just wanted a sequel ASAP.
@@STOPPEDINCOLORADO yes but DMC3 wouldn’t be what it was if Itsuno didn’t go above and beyond in apology for DMC2
@@throwawaydetective9080 True!
i Luv DMC2, it's something about it🥰But you get crucified if you don't say you hate it.
"nothing encouraged me to make videos or music either and i still did it because i wanted to because i'm not a boring bitch with no imagination"
this deeply, deeply resonated with me lol
inspirational quotes that just hit different ✨
The exact reason we should all be creative, not for glory and power but so we dont become boring bitches.
im a real boring bitch with no imagination ig
Half-inspirational, half-"I'm-nothing-like-yall-fish-meme." Can't imagine glazing DMC2, a crappy product of crunch and mismanagement, but I guess I'm a boring asshole for not liking it
@@TheExFatal The quote is a bit pretentious but I kinda get it. Liking this game certainly doesn't define your character though. lol
2 WAS the last in the timeline for a while, but they retconned it to be between the Anime and 4, the new implication being that Dante was just depressed over killing Vergil in 1 and got excited again when he learned about Nero.
Thats weirdly wholesome and funny also i didnt even know there was an anime
@davebob4973 It's not the most wholesome given Dante still does the woohoo stuff mostly so he doesn't bum people out but it is nice that he got pulled out of a total slump.
Also the anime is pretty good, right after 1 and depicts him taking more normal Devil Hunter jobs to pay the bills.
@@davebob4973the DMC anime is canon actually but the hilarious part is Capcom gave more credits to the anime than DMC 2 😂
Small correction to the correction: It was with the release of DMC5 that the timeline got switched. Initially, the timeline implied that Dante got depressed in the anime, after killing his brother, only to be super excited again in 4, only to again be super depressed in DMC2.
Ugh dmc fans grinding their combos instead of lore again. 2 takes place right after a novel where in the end he has to kill a trish lookalike and is wounded by that
I heard super eyepatch wolf say "sophistifuture" in his most recent video lol. thorhighheels be a fr thought leader in the scene that's crazy.
Which video?
@@gokugotengohannaruto the fake games one
@@beat-man5167 damn I was hoping I wouldn't have to do the two hours haha
Please return with a timestamp !!
he's really late to the semi-ironically liking dmc2 party
For the record, DMC2 used to be the last point in the DMC timeline, but with the release of DMC5 the timeline has been retconned so that DMC2 comes before DMC4 and the anime to be Dante's depressive episode after DMC1 with the death of his brother making it so Dante has no one left leaving him in a very emotionally unstable place, which makes the beginning of DMC4 really interesting because Dante starts off like a stone faced killer until he starts to realize who Nero is and slowly becomes more jokey and fun loving like younger Dante.
I feel like that doesn't quite work because it makes DMC 2 Dante's personality interfere with the then-logical leap from Anime Dante to DMC4 Dante.
Honestly, DMC2 is an inconvenient nuisance on almost all fronts.
I say almost because I kinda like Lucia😂
@@LugnalMost people just headcanon that Dante became more light hearted after meeting Nero and realizing he still has family.
@@devinf.8317 I mean yeah, but where does DMC2 Dante fit in? I can see him going from brooding to a stone cold killer (Anime to beginning of DMC4) but the snarkiness in DMC2 wouldn't have a place anymore
2’a weird because originally it was before 4 (hence why Dante starts the game silent and menacing like 2), then after DmC it was retconned to be after 4, then when 5 was announced they put it back before 4. It’s very strange and I don’t get why they bothered changing it in the first place other than wanting to pretend it’s a more solid ending point so DmC could be a thing.
I do genuinely like how the skybox looks. Clouds moving at high speed is so dreamlike. Rayman 2 had a similar thing going on in some areas.
Crash Twinsanity, especially the beta footage, made me love quick flowing skyboxes.
super fast or super slow clouds are the best
Kya: Dark Lineage had that in some places as well. Loved that Flying Forest skybox. Hunter's Domain and Forbidden Island skyboxes were solid too. The art direction of that game was very similar to Rayman 2 and 3.
I think of like early CD console 2D games like Sonic CD or Symphony of the Night.
that intro was super nice. it really gave pikachu dramatic 2005 late night anime op vibes
Part of why we love Thor
That probably is the most accurate thing to describe it, cuz i also thought the same thing
But what is the song during the intro? I can't place it but I know it
@@dan2060289 thor original I'd say
@dan2060289check the description for his bandcamp. It's in that album.
Of course ThorHighHeels is one of the only people in existence to like DMC2.
Thankfully I no longer have to feel bad for not liking Drakengard 3
lol i like both games
i also love it XD
I liked the game as well honestly.
@@kakizakichannel wait, what? Isn't the average consensus "drakengard 3 bad?" Isn't the average consensus "drakengard 1, 2, and 3 bad?"
Growing up during this era was great because i had no idea people hated this game and i just played what sequels i wanted to and loved it
this is my favorite way of defending media, you didn't talk down the other games, you just proposed that this game is perfectly enjoyable with only a little change in perspective, never stepping into "people were wrong about this game all along" and just saying why you love it. Positivity all the way through. That said you did reference gex like 5 times so im sorry but i gotta doxx u and make up rumors on twitter bye
It’s kind of interesting to see a video where the response to criticisms of the game is “I don’t know. I like it”
This is how I feel about media in the end. There's things I dislike and I talk about it yeah but in the end... if someone liked it good for them
This is how everyone should interact with media. Everyone has their own perspectives, values, and backgrounds that shape/influence their opinions so there is literally no point in arguing about and comparing media. Voice what you want but don’t expect people to agree, just be respectful about it.
Watching this channel for a good while now has genuinely re-programmed me to appreciate alota big and small things in videogames and other forms of art that i would not have noticed otherwise
Seeing the good in seemingly bad things do be really based
Thank you Thor
Pika 8>
Embrace mediocrity bro
17:24 How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love DMC2...Featuring Dante from the Shin Megami Tensei series.
"King ? Here's your crown"...Honestly this line alone makes the existence of DMC 2 worth it 😂
It was also the first game to have Bloody Palace. That also kinda justifies its existence.
Ever play Lucia & Trish?
You almost convinced me to play DMC2 again.
Almost.
Not falling for that trap lmao
Enjoyed the video! I played through the DMC franchise from beginning to end for the first time this year. Still obsessed with 3 at the moment, savoring DMD mode as I slowly chip through it. I felt absolutely underprepared for just how much I wound up disliking 2, for all the reasons you've already heard and readily acknowledge here. Very nice to hear someone say "yeah you're not wrong about what this game is, but listen: it's cool anyways lmao."
Gotta respectfully disagree on Gunstar Heroes and Streets of Rage though, and the sentiment of "repetitive arcade action" as a whole. The strength of arcade action is that it absolutely can serve as mindless explode-y, button mash-y, goof-y, sill-y, but can also be incredibly nuanced and expressive if you spend more time with it. The kind of niche advanced strategies in those games, animation cancels and abuse and all that, is exactly the kind of stuff that inspired DMC3, I'd argue. It's just that DMC3 actively demands you engage with that kind of stuff, whereas arcade beat 'em ups were more than happy to just let you keep spending quarters instead. They're very different games depending on who's playing them, which in and of itself is very cool!
mainly just commenting to agree that the take on gunstar and streets was definitely wrong on thor's part
Felt the same about how he said that Gungrave is just mashing square, ignoring the dodging, when to do the gunkata and when not to, the special shots, the melee that can reflect rockets, having to move through the stage in a way that keeps your combo up...
i actually love dmc2 as well. it’s not nearly as good of a hack and slash as the other 2, but i think it’s still a fun action game and the art direction is just so bonkers. i love permanently juggling enemies in midair with gunfire and i think stoic dante is cool even if he’s not as charming. best outfit in the series too, fight me. it reminds me of the second matrix movie. not as good as the first but there’s lots to like and i’m glad it exists
I FUCKING LOVE FINDING NEW WAYS TO APPRECIATE ART THAT IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED TO BE WIDELY DERIDED RRRRAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH
damn thor you're really gradeteachermaxxing with those earrings and hairstyle, that's a powerfull look
This seems extremely charitable. I think DMC2 was made less with a design or philosophy in mind and more with confusion and terror.
I like the pikachu. Seeing the Pikachu makes me happy
Nice video
I wouldn't say that DMC2 was my fave in the series but I remember playing it when it came out and having a good time with it. I was surprised to find out later just how much hate it had from fans of the series. An overhated title for sure, happy to see some love being thrown on it
Dante's design from Dmc2 is still the slickest, and it's the one featured in SMT Nocturne.
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series, legendary meme
SMT Nocturne! That‘s the one, where Dante is the only one to survive a fall from a skyscraper completely unscathed😮
@@cybercop0083 also he pursues the Demi-fiend and slaps him like nothing
@@kuronoroux8864 Despite his inability to pierce physical defenses😔
Finally a fellow DMC2 enjoyer. Im sure it's just nostalgia but i always enjoy dmc2 when replaying the trilogy.
That intro has to be one of my favorite intro edits ever. It's just so sleek.
I'm convinced the definitive DMC2 experience is the Lucia disc. It just feels like Dante was shoved to the forefront of the game late in development. As everyone who has ever played the game has demonstrated, his shit is just busted, his bosses are ???, it beggars belief that this was what they really set out to make. I think they were scrambling to scrape something together for a Dante campaign. Maybe he was intended as a bonus character, like Vergil in later games, something fun to unlock because who cares, but had to make it for real at the eleventh hour.
I get the impression Capcom viewed the DMC franchise as an action equivalent to Resident Evil with a rotating cast of protagonists, and this was supposed to be Lucia's game. That bears out if you play both campaigns side by side. Most of the content is shared across both discs, but it all feels better with Lucia - I distinctly remember a lightbulb going off when I tried it for the first time - with Lucia, it actually felt like the enemies complemented her moveset. Her kick combo staggers enemies, breaking their guard and opening them up to the higher damage sword combos. It's not just musou anymore.
Unfortunately, players' universal hatred of Dante's disc meant that the vast majority never even put Lucia's disc in their console and so there are probably like a dozen people who even gave it a chance.
Interesting take!!
Yeah this is pretty much how I felt. Like I still don't really like DMC2 but it really does feel like Lucia's game in a lot of ways and it's super built around her moveset and it makes the game more engaging at least.
There is concept art showing Dante was not even going to be in the game. It originally starred a new male character and was supposed to be open world. Pieces of that open world were cut up into the skyscraper and upper city sections of the final game.
I 100% with your Valid statement.
Don't ever be ashamed or make excuses for liking what you like.
Thor was the guy in vinny's chat to bait him into playing dmc2 for the charity stream
ayo the little pika irl camera segments? yo?? really cool, swagful even
also, new album!!!! yay!!!
I don’t know why I love the character design of Dante?
His hair
His coat
His GUNS!
His GIANT SWORD!
Reminds me of going to hot topic or sharkrobot!
He's white
@@j.2512 And his hair is too...
The Vinesauce fans will descend on this video in masses to say dumb deeemcee2 memes. I am giving you this warning as one of them and an apology in advance
BINTY PLX
Good I hope more people come to this video to discover the greatest RUclipsr of all time
*en masse
Came to the comments before even watching the video to see if anyone had said this. Not disappointed.
DEE EM CEE TOO IS THE BAEST GAEM
DMC2 is great c:
The dark atmosphere is amazing, the game looks really good IMO, and it has one of the best soundtracks ever!
Even though I love Dante's personality in the other games, I also love how serious he is here :3
Lucia is great as well, and her Devil Trigger design is absolutely beautiful.
The main baddie... eh... That's not that great twt Same as the fact that guns just reign supreme... But atmosphere-wise, and especially musically-wise it is absolutely stunning.
Mission Start and Eye of the Wind Lower Town are some of my favorites :D
Real gamer opinions are being served here today
I know that Gackt is very popular, but I'm never going to get used to hearing other people say his name out loud.
We can call him "Genesis" instead.
I always loved how unapologetic you are about liking things that are objectively messy and jank. You manage to not sound like a contrarian at all when praising these weird fucked up games. Keep doing your thing Thor. Hope some day do make a rap album
i enjoy what they were trying to go for with dmc2, for the longest time i've been imagining "what would dmc2 look like if the devs actually executed on what they wanted to make", honestly thinking about that has been more fun than the actual game itself for me
though if everything was exactly the same but the stinger was dmc1's stinger then i bet a lot of people would be more willing to go to bat for the game lol
"It's dee em cee two'in time." - John DmC
Booti pl;s
@@alphaamigo9688DE BÆST GAEM
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Donti is gud and bast een gaem
Binyot plaes blae presona 5 and undrtael JUST 5 MINUETS PLs
Youre the most inspiring gaming centered youtuber on this entire platform, for my money
You never fail to teach me a new way to look at the entire medium
Your writing is brilliant while feeling so goofy and casual
And your music and editing are fuckin perfect.
This channel is crazy
I replayed through 1-3 for the first time in about 20 years, and good lord does 2 feel like it's punishing the player at every move. But it does have some style and interesting ideas that would continue through the series.
Also, best infested tank and chopper will always be ps2 Shinobi.
I like your framing of DMC2 in that edgy PS2 action game lineage. Great video!
Honestly, this gives me a great moment to play DMC2's advocate and say that I also enjoy the game. The dodging, high jumping and directional combo attacks makes the fight pretty fun for me. And I do like the gothic city setting as well.
I would've made a video like this to give some praise to the game, but I never had the guts to do so. That, and I'm practically a nobody in the space of RUclips. Which makes me glad that you'd make this video sharing the same enjoyment of DMC2 as I do. Makes me a slight happier that I'm not alone in liking the game :)
17:48 I think you mean from DmC onward. DMC4 very much has a Resident Evil design with interconnected levels, key items, spooky castle with a secret lab, even has a timed escape sequence with an explosion at the end.
Yeah this video kinda makes it sound like he didn't even play DMC4 lol. It's probably tied with 1 with being the least "modern/urban", taking place in the cool as hell European church town (that does have a few dingy back alleys), jungles, caves, icefields, castles, ice castles, on top of a massive crumbling god-statue and so on. Nothing about it gives me "monster energy" vibes, and it has that sense of adventure that Thor mentioned liking.
Let’s effen GOOOOOOO
An old friend of mine I eventually lost contact with put me on to this game, also put my attention to Final Fantasy X-2 as well! Still awaiting the day he could play that eventual “stuck in X” game that’s mentioned in passing!
I'm a simple man. I see a new Thor video, I watch it on my lunch break.
His words make me sleep good after night shift
He just like me fr
DMC2 is the first game in the series I ever played and is also the reason why I avoided playing other games in the series for quite a while. There's no shame in liking something everyone else dislikes, lord knows I like my fair share of media other people consider garbage, so you do you bro.
Real gamers don't skip Devil May Cry 2. That's just a fact.
Stunning and brave video. I had a feeling this would happen sooner or later.
Thor I played Lunacid and didn't know you composed some of the most banger tracks in the ost. Thanks bud
Wooooo! Yeah! So glad I'm not alone in this!
This video is like a mirror opposite of GamingBrit's Nights vs Klonoa video, a good and positive video I expected from you vs bad negative one I did not expect from him. Both even feature DMC2!
I also enjoy the entire series but love 2 and DMC:DMC the most and 3 the least, the opposite of the fandom at large.
Duuuuude YES
DMC2 was my favorite DMC for so long.
(now it's "DmC" 100%)
It's beyond rough, but there was so much to love if you dig in.
Unlocking Trish was awesome.
Slamming that sword into the ground and then just punching the shit out of the demons.
Man that was great times.
Same!!!
I love it when Dante performs the combos, especially the one that flings the enemies in the air like a volleyball.
Yooooo, this game is GOATed for it's aesthetics, thanks for highlighting it
Game looks amazing in screenshots. Definitely peak PS2 aesthetics.
It is the only finished part of the game yes.
No
theres just something special about hearing how one person adores something that most people dislike
Thor has conditioned me into expecting a wild jaunt from the stated focus of the video into some abstract esoteric tangent so well that I'm honestly shocked when they DON'T veer into another topic. Anyway, another great video.
Couldn't find a more 'glass half full' guy on the planet
DMC2 is great. It taught me to be a cynical bastard from a very young age. Also the building demon was kinda cool.
the mosaic tile texture is actually taken from the mosaics of the alhambra palace in spain. i feel like it's a you kind of building since it's renowned for its architecture, waterworks, and intricate detailing. definitely evokes the sophistifuture aesthetic even though it was built centuries ago
Wish DMC went down the horror path more like 1 and 2. WOW this brought back memories of all those old games. We need remasters of all of these.
That Patreon segment was so cool! I think its my favorite one you've ever done.
Thor's cat continues to be the GOAT
willem :)
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The mostimpressive thing is that youve managed to keep the tail attached to that plastic pikachu figure.
DMC2 loves you too ♥️
Guys, ThorHighHeels is so quirky and unique!
No bulli!
They are though
Cute boy
They are ear and eyecrack
@@Hummus420he may not even be, though - there's plenty of men who just carry the aesthetic, and many non binary people who embrace both he/she pronouns. Lots of people live outside of the gender politics we're so used to seeing these days.
I love the DMC series so much that I literally write edgelord power fantasy fanfic about it, so getting a whole video of ThorThoughts(tm) about the aesthetics of the games is incredibly appreciated! Thank you for your service
Please make 1 million more videos. Any theme, subject, game, thought, anything.... Just keep em coming!
I love the dedicated dodge roll button in this
It's always interesting seeing what topic they come up with during the wait between videos
Dude I thought I was the only one! I constantly get weird looks when I tell ppl that it's my favorite dmc. Glad someone has some sense. Thanks for the validation Thor!
Always a pleasure to have the Thor cinematic outdoor clips + new album teaser
Love your videos so much❤ thank you for what you do
The start of this video made me realise that I would really love to hear you talk about Quake, I honestly think you'd really appreciate the weird aesthetics it has because it's actually two games that got awkwardly merged together
I'm glad you can enjoy the slog, cause I couldn't, man. I legit almost fell asleep twice playing this game.
Bro that lil pikachu patreon cut was so sick.
I love that these meandering Thor ramblings always find me in a moment when I didn’t know I needed them. Lowkey they walk the eternal Tao.
Oh no, Thor, you've never had a Sobe??? Only the pink ones were good tbh, but they were *gooood.*
Sorry for your loss
Edit: also there is actually milk in one of the pink ones, maybe a couple more but I'm not positive lmao
I was just thinking about this youtuber, glad there's a new video
This video was a breath of fresh air on DMC2, well done!
Also your drip is fire 🔥
Really enjoyed this video, had great vibes throughout :> flexing on us and willem with the dirge of cerberus chains goddamn
Thank you for the video...and album,i just needed that.
Thor cry heels...
thor is such a good person, idk why but they give me some really good vibes. I really aprecciate the apreciatiation for games as art without thinking much only about game mechanics and more about vibes and feelings, i dont care if people think its imature, i just love to watch videos that are written with such unique and personal style. All thor videos that i watched are soo nice, i like the way the script have some wordplay and some silly rhymes, all comes from the heart man. another great video, thanks alot
One thing the game really needed was letting you shoot while just holding the button down. It also needed a big overhaul, but speaking of the game as it is, and not as it may be, it really needed to let you just hold down the button and shoot.
It's nice to see love for Devil May Cry 2 and Drakengard 3 for once! I love both of those games too.
You are my fave youtuber of all time btw, just wanted to tell you that
This is definitely a stance on some matter.
Okay real talk I started playing with the “Whatever. I’m so cool” mentality and the game is actually fantastic for me that way. Just roleplay as an emo edge lord badass and you’ll be fine. It’s meant for you to just look cool.
Can’t lie this brought back pure nostalgia with this game. This was how I got introduced to the series. Then I went back played one & was hyped about 3 when it came along. I start seeing a lot of hate for this game in later years didn’t see why until I see past footage of stuff I didn’t pay attention to back then 😅 this game I still hold bear & dear bc it got me into the genre with the GOW & more of the PS2 era
5:55 You may be the only other person on earth that I know of who pointed out this very specific aesthetic of this very specific moment in time
the camcorder pikachu sections are so beautiful. something about them just hit me in a weird good way.
I like pikachu's little day out. Nicely edited
I respect the love for the vibes, and my other reason for liking this is that it brought us SMT3 Dante, arguably his coolest version.
You look like my auntie in the 1980's picture that's colored red
subscribing because DMC 2 is my favorite too
Shinobi(2002) also had an infested tank and an infested chopper and that game kicks ass
Thor rly went n gon did it
Sepultura? I'll take that as BRAZIL MENTIONED 🎉
I was gonna comment how insane it is that dmc2 is his favorite then I remembered I like DmC Devil may cry so I can’t talk
This is why I keep coming back to Thor's videos. Unique takes I can't get anywhere else.
You DO know it had 2 disks and 2 playable main characters, right?