What's up with those weird MGS side modes?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Metal Gear Solid 2 skateboarding or the VR missions or the ape escape collab are a little mysterious if u ask me. why are they? how are they? and who did? many such questions...
#metalgearsolid #hideokojima #deathstranding #apeescape #mgs #metalgearsoliddelta #konami
CHAPTERS
0:00 MGS1 & VR Missions
19:24 MGS2 Subsistence & The Document of MGS2
53:23 The Legacy of the VR Missions
57:09 MGS3 & Ape Escape & The Dream
1:18:53 Acid & Death Stranding & The Rest 
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god this one took a minit. hadnt made a real big video all year so i was like yea i can do something huge for october, maybe early november, and now here we are lol. but i think it was super worth it this vid owns : )
next video will be on the return on licensed games !
Thor, you are an utterly superb video essayist with a style all your own. Keep doing you, boo boo. ❤❤❤
minit lol
Thor! Your my number 1 artist in spotify haha
Great job dude!
im not sure if tagging you worked, don’t think so lol.. but yo! Watching Xavier renegade angel and the dialogue/writing does that hilarious thing that you sometimes do at the end of a long sentence: when you use words that rhyme (or use the same word several times) but sometimes get grammatically haphazard for the sake of the rhyme/alliteration
tl;dr you are funny and so is Xavier Renegade angel
Anyway you are one of my favorite artists and creators and you make me and my friends laugh evry tiem & we also love your music
Hope you and your cat are well 🖖🏻
Fun fact; the Big Shell level is a downloadable level for THUG Pro. Some mad person went ahead and ported it over and it's a very fun level.
What's THUG pro?
@@moroseloki1912
THUG stands for Tony Hawk's Underground. THUG Pro is a huge mod/fan game that expands the mechanics of THUG to whatever levels and game modes the fans can come up with.
thug that shit out
Are there mods to add Snake and Raiden as well?
@@attulo8310should note Thug Pro, is actually a mod of THUG 2.
you and hazel collaborating on a video about PSP games sounds like an amazing video to watch. both of you are my favorites
As per half the things in the MGS series, I have to imagine the thought process for most of these went like this: Hideo: "Wouldn't it be cool if....?". Everyone else: "Hideo, no." Hideo: "Hideo, yes."
You could say some of Kojimas choices were HIDEOus. Ok I'll show myself outside
Honestly i do think some creatives need a leash or sumn because thats the third time i saw a creator i like climb into the ass of his own and get kinda incomprehensible. While some people get angry at calling kojima genius i do think he is one, in a "peak of creative spirit" kind of way, and geniuses often lose the track of rationality and sensibulity and trying to actually convey their ideas in a non-unhinged way. Its sort of like when borders set by other people sometimes are less to constrict you and more to guide you to a certain direction and without them you just kind of spin out into the ditch idk
Considering he had a suggestion box for what ideas the devs could put in the games, it may be wrong to assume every was Kojima.
@@SciontheDark You may have missed the part where this wasn't an entirely serious suggestion as to how these actually ended up in the game, but rather a play on the fact that Kojima is eccentric and has a lot of eccentric and funky ideas that sometimes need reigning in. Also known as a joke.
I'd like to think everyone was on board
mgs has influenced my life so much so i live in a cardboard box
That's just late stage capi....... Oh wait😮
Kojima is so influential homelessness was invented to reference MGS
@@101kirbyfan kojima once sat on my face 👀😈👹
I've become so much like snake it's scary
Man, I used to be obsessed with the dream sequence minigame back in the day. Was sure it was a sneaky teaser for a new horror game, like some sort of a Castlevania and Silent Hill lovechild, kept waiting and being on a lookout for an announcement dropping, but it never materialized. Much sad.
Yeah really a lost chance
I've seen some rumors that it was a sketch for Zone of the Enders 3.
That was such BS. I could never get it to work.
Didn't know you needed the dracula thing but I got it anyway.
I kept a save there for awhile and it never worked. Played the game a whole second time just to try it.
VR Missions does make you a beast at MGS.
I loved the mystery missions. I wanted a whole game of those.
seeing the ghosts in mgs1 freaked me out so hard as a kid, and I rarely see anyone mention it, further spooking me as an adult
Spoopy
The ones in MGS4 at shadow moses scared the shit out of me as a kid too so I totally get it!
I remember a vr mission in Ghost Babel that had you hit yourself with a missile and use the i-frames to run through a laser or something like that, making you use speedrun type strats to finish a normal mission.
i've not played a single mgs game yet this video managed to fascinate me from beginning to end. very cool
Play em they fun
speaking of non canon being canon (or the act of something unknown becoming...known idk i just realized my wording was weird)- i always found figuring out big boss' story in mgs3 as a player and every character knowing about it in mgs4 (due to operation snake eater being declassified) kind of a cool meta element
Its like the characters (particularly solid snake) learn about naked snake the same time we do, so it helps further establish a player-game connection as we both explore the future together
Thor, I gotta tell you man... you have got me thru the darkest of times.. consistently inspire me.. your style and editing .. the humor and running jokes. I watch your videos to fall asleep after a long day at work.. I reference you to people who would have no idea who you are .. I've been watching for years, cheers to you and whatever you choose to do I'll continue to watch and listen too 🎉
Seriously the Metal Gear Soild and Ape Escape crossover are the crossovers that make me love video games. I mean you have Snake running around catching monkeys and then you have Ape Escape 3 having a Monkey cosplaying as Snake, having this epic backstory and he is being Snake with the monkeys........God was that shit amazing lol! You don't get that much fun tongue and cheek crossover stuff now because now EVERYTHING is crossovering. Still a nice look into the VR stuff and wacky MGS things though god do I miss me some Rumble Roses.
Nah it's just because the world lost a lot of the humor it once had. Early 2000s were a trip
Wait more games have Crossovers? 🤔 Oh wait 🫷 I thought of a few nevermind Carry On. You mean Fortnite and CoD right? MK? Umm...
@@moroseloki1912 I mean fun crossover's not cash grab cross overs like stuff we started to get years later.
I'll be honest. If it wasn't for Mesal Gear Solid in Ape Escape 3, I wouldn't have gotten into the rest of metal gear solid series. I only wanted to know HOW canon monkey Snake was because I already knew metal gear solid was strange. But seeing David Hayter being the voice of both Snake and Snake made me wonder if Monkey Snake was an ape version of Les Enfants Teribles
@@someguywithamic9 Well I'm glad you came across the metal gear solid series thanks to a side game from Ape escape 3 because that is the most interesting way anyone has ever discovered one series thanks to a side game lol.
Man, totally forgot about the cutscene feature where you could swap characters! I used to do that all the time. Great video. Classic Thor. Congrats on the book/music project btw.
Always adding more to that MGS retrospective playlist, bless
Yay, you're finally back :3
An hour and a half of goodness
Apologies in advance for screenshotting that "GRAY FOX SAYS 'YES'" pic and getting a custom t shirt made. If you release official merch of that of course I'll buy it, but I need it in my veins sooner than that
I remember the connections with Ghost Babel and Ac!d and the whole alternate "Dr. Koppelthorn timeline" they had going on, makes sense as those had most of the same Kojipro staff and Kojima gave then a lot of creative liberties with non-canon stuff. Kind of funny in retrospective with how the VR Mode in GB was the first ever mention of Raiden.
Thanks Thor you are now on the list of *2* Artists I follow who has incorporated their cat's meows into songs
As a kid who grew in the early 2000s too and whose native language wasn't english either, I can relate so much to everything here tbh. It somehow made games feel so much eerie and sometimes even cursed. I always tell the story of how scared I was when you're at the last part of MGS 2 and the Colonel goes bananas, and I did understand turn off your videogame console now and stuff... How the game started throwing random videos and then game over screens, and I was like "yeah, this game is broken" then I don't know how but somehow my brain understood this was all on purpose? And yeah... MGS was my favorite saga from a long time, even if I didn't really understand what was it about until I totally grasped english as a language lol.
Your editing is always on point in these videos, but this one specifically feels like a HUGE jump in quality. Everything looks 10 times as stylish before and super professional, it's like going through the menus of an end-of-life PS2 game.
It's hard to convey to younger folk today how utterly incredible Metal Gear Solid 2, not only tech wise but just as a cultural moment. Whilst I really don't gel with it's story or art direction like I do MGS1, I will admit that it's still one of the most ambitious games of the era. KONAMI knew that this was going to be an important and best selling game and so they 'James Cameron'd it'. Trusting Kojima to truly do what he wanted. SUBSISTANCE was just a victory lap, a tome of sorts to document the process of their miracle in making.
God damn... KONAMI were on fucking fire on the PS2. It's such a shame what they have become because it really seemed that they knew how to cultivate the greatest minds who were on the real edge of making games that pushed both limits technically and thematically.
However it's clear now that they were just lucky with the teams who did MGS2 and SH2. They squandered those talents.
That's crazy was just rewatching your mgs retrospective series it's my favorite mgs retrospective on RUclips just finished the final video and then I see this
Thanks for making this. It was really great to watch. We have similar experiences with these games and with Kojima at large.
Thanks for taking the time to do a separate video on MGO, the one on MGS4 has some very treasured memories for me. And it was very sad to see it shut down. So I look forward to seeing your take on it and how it brings mgs insanity to the multiplayer arena.
Keep up the good work.
very wonderful vid, love to learn more about the metal gear series and the various extras it has
That was an incredibly comfy watch. Im pleasantly surprised you found more to talk about regarding MGS
Lovely to see a video from you! Been re-watching some of your longer ones, this will fill that space quite nicely!
(also, the two ladies at ''the 2th screem'', at 34:16, are two characters from the game Rumble Roses)
EDIT:
And now I feel silly, seeing as you actually mentioned where they're from at 1:00:40 -ish...
Yep. Reiko Hinomoto & her heel persona, Rowdy Reiko were unlockable skins in Metal Gear Online.
Fun fact: Reiko Hinomoto was partially inspired by Ridge Racer's virtual race queen Reiko Nagase.
I found your channel with the MGS videos initially and it's always good to see a new one. Evidently it was about a year ago I binged just about everything on the channel and forgot to subscribe. Glad this showed up in my feed, so I could remember to this time. Keep up the good work.
Whenever someone talks about Metal Gear Solid, I gotta recommend the excellent and thorough let's plays by Chip Cheezum. Their Snake Eater playthrough especially. It really makes you appreciate all the little details in the game, like how Volgin reacts when you throw mushrooms in his boss fight.
Wow that long one came outta nowhere...
Thanks for that, so good too see a lot of the quirky, weird and forgotten stuff of MGS. And Willem.
Wonderful video as always
Thank God - I needed this
Really interesting video, this makes me actually want to track down MGS1 VR missions and MGS2 Subsistence
As a kid with no internet most of the time I loved this shit. Also the music choice at around 24:00 is masterful. This video just unlocked a ton of memories for me lol. Thanks for putting a big smile on my face like always dude.
Omg! A possible MGO series video in the future? Fingers crossed. I'm excited. MGO2 (mgs4's) is probably my favorite game. I miss it so.
i love this channel so much. this video is like everything i love about this channel
Phew came in clutch almost ran out of thorhighheel videos to binge
Another great Thor viddy. Was especially happy to see Mesal Gear Solid get some love, since Ape Escape 3 was probably my favorite game as a kid.
Everytime i see that u post it makes ma day
Because it's Kojima
Oldhead Metal Gear Purists: "Metal Gear's an extremely serious tactical spy game for serious hardcore gamers and was never wacky or goofy til post-MGS4
Literally every Metal Gear ever since the MSX Original:
@@ToshisGardenI'm just gonna say one thing: oh poor pooping Johnny!
@@Ner0mancer Yes, truly!! XD
@@ToshisGarden Hey PS2 was the era when games started gradually going brown on grey, and all so gruff and serious and so on. I found the mid 2000s games to be despicable. MGS was something that both determined the trend, since visually it was muted and that's what other games were emulating, and also something that ran completely counter to it with both serious themes and also just not taking itself too way seriously.
I hate many studios' obsession with "immersion" which they read as "no fun allowed".
@SianaGearz @SianaGearz I mean, you're not wrong! XD There were certainly still a lot of games that had vivid aesthetics similar to the more lively games of the 90's and games that still allowed themselves to have fun, but the signs of the forthcoming "brown future" were starting to show. I feel you pretty perfectly described MGS, and the whole "too much realism" thing is why I prefer MGS2 to MGS3 and prefer Peace Walker to The Phantom Pain, although still love all of those games in their own ways. I think other games that struck a pretty perfect balance between fun gameplay, vivid aesthetics, and serious tones are Ninja Gaiden 2004, Metroid Prime 2, and Twilight Princess. Many people often sleep on the more insteresting visual designs of those games, such as the variety of areas in Ninja Gaiden that look like they could be from different time periods as well as different games (comparing the early game that looks more like it could be from a time period similar to the first Onimusha to the futuristic Tsiron's military, or the Core of the Fiends' Underworld from the late game).
Metroid Prime 2 had a lot of variety that floated between eerie, realistic environments like the Temple Grounds and Torvus Bog to colorful, otherworldly/futuristic locales like Sanctuary Fortress and basically any place on Dark Aether, lol. Twilight Princess is similar, but often leaning more fantastical. It has one of the best Castle Towns in any Zelda, and that's a very distinct location alongside other greats like the Arbiter's Grounds, Snowpeak, the Twilight Realm, the Hidden Village, and heck, even Ordon Village, lol.
I love the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater menu music ass beat at 18:22. Big RebelTaxi vibes
jus what I needed
Another awesome video
Ayy, congrats on the books! I'll have to check them out
remembering your videos makes me feel like im trying to remember a weird dream
Thank you for making my day.
This is a work of love
It's great to see more talk about all those weird side modes. While I dug into the VR in MGS1 most I have some weirdly vivid memories of watching a friend do the Snake Tales of MGS2 on the original Xbox over the course of an afternoon after a very tense begging his girlfriend to buy it for him (we were 18 and fresh out of high school, she being the only one who held down a job). And of course any more discussion of the AC!D games always thrills me, even did a play of the first game not too long ago as both games are among my absolute favorite PSP titles.
Shouts out to some of my favorite wire frame/ vector games: "Another World," "Rez" (PS2/DC), "REZ: Infinite" (PS4), "Vib-Ribbon" (PS1), "Mojib-Ribbon" (PS2), "Vib-Ripple" (PS2), "Stifled" (PS4), and "Manifold Garden" (PS4)!!
With the MGS collection coming out and finally getting to play them again after 20 years, I remember why for so long mgs 2 was my favourite ever game. And now I've realised, it still is. It was my first MGS game so I didn't care about playing as Raiden, for all I knew he was who you played as in the first game too. So I never got angry about that. I later went and played mgs 1 and loved it and mgs 3 and loved it. It's my absolute favourite series. I'm now playing MGS 5 for the first time. I know it'll be included in the 2nd volume of the collection but I had to play more MGS, and I knew it's a prequel so it won't spoil MGS 4 which I haven't played yet. I'll be getting the second collection just for MGS 4 really. And Peace Walker too, it looks like fun. But yeah mainly just MGS 4, I'll finally get to play it after all these years. Brings a tear to my eye.
Who knows when we’ll get it, but Very hyped for an MGO video.
I’ve always wanted to play ur on MGS4, but could never get my stuff to work.
Great vid. Looking forward to the next one.
Love you Thor and your videos, keep up the amazing work brother, it's always a pleasure to see you upload.
A whole section dedicated to VR Missions, hell yeah. When i was younger I saw someone playing Metal Gear Solid and i wanted to play it so bad, i'd later end up at a store where i picked up a copy of what i thought was MGS. It was VR Missions. After realizing that it wasn't the game i decided to keep it and continue on, like if it was practice for the real game. I ended up falling in love with it. Wish it had more ninja missions though.
you played the raiden way
It baffles me how this man isn’t already at 1million subs. The amount of work and how wholesome these videos are is why Thor is such a big inspiration to me. Keep it up man
Thor doesn't play the RUclips algorithm game.
Millions subs is for dumdums who make faces. We're nice and cozy here.
God the bit about Iwata explaining the switch like Kojima had me in fucking stitches I needed that laugh today
Thanks for the vid
Can't wait for the MGO video :D
Perfect video patrone
Woah, you actually taught me something new about MGS...had no idea that spoof existed in Ape Escape as well. Love this stupid series, can't wait for the online video. That was my shit back in the day.
You're an artist
my dude. i've been watching your Metal Gear Retrospective playlist on almost nonstop repeat since i discovered it about a year ago, and i gotta say you get better and better at these things every video. there was just SO MUCH SHIT jam packed into this one, it felt like i was sitting here for about a week lmao. good stuff
I haven't watched all of this yet, but the back half of 2023 has had some of the thorsiest thorhighheels uploads to date 🔥This, the back to back Tekken vids following back to back FF videos, chase the express; it's very clear you've made good on last year's promise to yourself to get back to your own personal good good, and not chase the new release/high view rat race. AND with a Coconuts release to boot, good shit 👏Good luck in 2024 if we don't see anything else this year
I love oh poor Johnny, oh poor pooping Johnny's tale!
Amazing video as always 🥰 and love to see the MGSurvive gospel be spread, I hate to see that game get put down even now just because of everything that happened surrounding it
love your videos
30:15 that looks dam near real right now
literally liminal space
How I haven't found your channel till now is befuddling. Love this video!!!
incredible
I was just playing lunacid with this vid in the background and got your name popping up on screen, it was surreal
MGS2 has my fav side modes. The Bomb Disposal, Variety, Elimination, and Photography missions are worth trudging through the VR Weapon missions for!
Hey, that's the game that came included with my copy zone of the enders!
The mystery missions and genola have stuck in my head for over 20 years and are what come to mind when I think of the VR missions. Shame you have to do a bunch of less interesting missions to unlock them.
A few hours ago I was telling to myself that I wanted to see a new video of you, my wish has been granted 🙏🥺
19:40 Love Dennis' Thunderdome shirt lmao
Excited about the books Thor!
I think all of the reasons he gave were equally weighted, but a large part of why he called it metal gear "solid" had to be because it was the first 3D metal gear. There are many synonyms for something with a 3-dimensional form, but he chose "solid" because it was also part of snake's codename in that game and the previous 2. Kojima's writing has tonnes of puns and double / triple + meanings in it all the time.
It was back in the 90's when 3D was still new and moving a franchise from 2D to 3D was a big freakin deal, so I don't know why this is so hard to believe. Look at all the games from that era that have "3D" in their title. Or the ones that have "HD" in the title from the PS3 Era. Kojima just wanted to show off his superior brain dick by going for a pun on 3D instead of just calling it "Metal gear 3D"
Just thought I'd nitpick because I have no idea how you could come to that conclusion when the guy has a notoriously literary approach to videogame writing, and the writing and themes in games like Death Stranding are enormous, tangled complexes of interlocking, overlapping and often dual-purpose symbols, words and concepts. The title "Death Stranding" probably has at least 3 different meanings / reasons for being the title.
Also I think a lot of the issues here obviously come from English not being his first language and him finding it hard to directly port his ideas over into English and then explain them in English. The translation in that part of the video makes Kojima look stupid. Either Kojima's English is bad or the translator wasn't amazing. Like the "solid" means "to the third power" part. I presume they mean "cubed" there instead of solid. And this also makes sense as to why he would mention the "cubic structure" of the graphics.
Cool video btw, very much enjoyed. And sorry this comment sucks.
But he ALSO called it Solid because Solid Snake.
Like, if the character's name was Iroquois Pliskin, the game would not have still been called Metal Gear Solid just because it was 3d. He might have tried to call or Escape From Metal Gear or something (the game is escaping the constraints of 2d!) , but the point is that putting the other reasons first comes off as incredibly pretentious.
@@GalanthosDid you read what he said ? He clearly states it was also "Solid" because of Snake's codename. Second fucking sentence.
@@Gatorade69 yeah but in all fairness, wasn’t he Solid Snake in MG 1 & 2? Maybe I’m remembering wrong but I think it was because of the 3d since it wasn’t the first time we met played as Solid Snake.
lmaooo@@Gatorade69
Tbh making puns and double meanings is more fun in the second language, at least thats my experience. Because youre not learning it in your crib and have to do it sad cringe way by reading books and talking to teachers different meanings of the same words kind of stick to you as more fascinating than your own. Like, i was obsessed with how "english" is also a term for a ball doing a spinny, and id certainly used it in some kinda fun way if homestuck didnt do it first. I dunno, i kinda believe kojumbo that he thought about all these things. Basically i agree but said with tons of words
Early xmas gift seeing a new video notification
this video certainly was one of them of all time
the document of mgs2 is one of the coolest fucking things in gaming ever (even more considering it's about one of the best games ever)
I think there was an option that lets you play whole Acid2 game stereoscopic along with Solid Eye Tobidacid thing
I love the cut from MGS to FF7.
broskey making it big time, Lunacid OST, Book writings, Audio Book music'ing? Talk about one cool pika
thanks for the survive shoutout, hopefully some folk give it a go
Kojima reminds me of a Christian apologist. He puts a lot of meaning into words and definitions to obscure really simple choices and concepts.
lmao when you got to that MGS2 hallway I grabbed my phone, scrolled down in my camera roll and there it was, a photo I took of the screen of that exact same corridor from the exact same angle, as I was replaying the game a few months ago, precisely because of how cool it looks.
Missed you baby
I've beaten MGS2 VR, but I had no idea that MGS1 VR was even more weird
I fucking love your long videos, of course don’t overdo yourself and as a big fan I’ll always be happy with your content no matter the length, but man if I don’t love these hour+ videos for my boring 8 hours sitting in a parking booth (work), started playing ghost babel because of you!
27:35 That Killer7 reference was smooth af
Thank you
7:59 Such powerful and striking imagery.
Kojima-san has done it once again!
34:18 never thought I would see rumble roses in here, the only wrestle game that I bothered to learn.
Finally a new Video 😂❤🎉
Finally some dopamine
Metal Gear Solid: The Forgotten Cheesy Sequel
I loved that MGS VR Missions expansion back in the day. There was a rumour going around that if you beat it 100%, you could use it to unlock ninja as a playable character for the main campaign.
Of course that would make no sense. I did it anyway.. but I wasn't disappointed by the realisation, as those missions were awesome! Some of them were really clever and entertaining - and they sure did work as well, I was insanely good at the main game by the time I was done. I could pretty much just run through it like a ghost.
20:49 no joke,it left something in me,i have a primal fear for 3d models you are not supposed to see. Also that game music is so wistful and melanchonic that it trickles in my soul.
poggers video!
I fucking love your videos, dude 🐻🌹
first fucking frame and i already love this