Personally, I'm inclined towards the theory that the other two voices are the result of his constant and virulent cancers only kept at bay due to his regenerative factor. In other words: I think he's got two huge cancerous growths in his heads, cancerous brain tissues forming their own personas. Which can communicate with each other. Which means that the voices would be silenced if the tumors were removed. Of course, he'd probably then cuddle the things tearfully while sobbing, "don't worry, guys! We'll get you back inside me where you belong!"
Hey there, man--great video! Jordan D. White here, editor of the Deadpool comics for the last 5 years or so. Sorry our Madcap retcon played a little heck with the Freud of it all. Behind the scenes-wise, since the voices had been a Daniel Way creation rather than an original part of Deadpool, when Gerry Duggan and Brian Posehn took over the writing duties with the Marvel Now! Deadpool series, I let them decide if they wanted to continue using the voices or not. Since they chose NOT to, when it came time to do an annual I suggested to Ben Acker & Ben Blacker that we tell the tale of where they came from and where they went. My pitch for them had been that all narrative captions in all comic books are actually symbiotic psychic creatures, and that having more than one would be deadly for a normal character, but Deadpool had been surviving it with his healing factor. Ben and Ben came back with the Madcap pitch instead, and I am glad they did. If you haven't seen, Madcap comes back in a big way in Gerry Duggan's newest Deadpool relaunch, as he's one of the obscure Marvel characters Deadpool hires to be in his new Mercenary group. Some fun stuff happens with him that relates back to their time together. Anyway, keep up the great work! This was a fun video.
Wow Thanks! I loved Ben and Ben's story about the voices and fell in love with the idea of Madcap, so much that I'm hoping to cosplay as him one year. Looking forward to reading the new series and thanks for everything Deadpool. I've subscribed to your channel ;-)
I personally love the conflicting voices. It adds some spice to Deadpool's humour, and shows how broken his psyche is after all he's been through. Too bad they had to take them out.
+Eu Alex They had somewhat of a mini-appearance, when Deadpool shoots two additional bullets into an already dead enemy, wasting two of his only 12 bullets. He then (in two different voices) says "Stupid!" - "Worth it!"
you have to leave some stuff for a sequel. You cant throw too much stuff at an audience. Especially when you're introducing them to the character which is what the movies are doing.
It's hard enough to translate one Deadpool into a live action role, imagine having to write, develop, cast and preform 3 Deadpools all contained within the same single actors physicality and interpretation of the character. It would've been fun and pretty cool to hear the voices and stuff, but maybe it's better left so the audience can't hear what deadpools thinking. Story could get overcrowded very easily with three main characters who are completely inseparable.
Can someone tell me the comic when it was revealed that Madcap was the yellow box and Doctor Bong was the white one? I'll address it on Monday's video and give you credit!
+Evan Liang sorry, I just refreshed the page and you had already commented the answer just in case you thought I was copying your answer I genuinely didn't see your comment :)
+NerdSync I heard a theory that Deadpool was inspired by MK-ultra (the source said that it mirrors some of the damage done to those involved in the program)
+NerdSync Scott is obviously the Id, because of how in the crew he's kinda the leader and pretty much the initiator of things like in the podcast. And usually the guy who said, yeah since when are we ever coordinated lets just go with that. Chris would be the Super Ego due to his position as the oldest and seemingly holds things together as a compromiser because his life experience usually helps him see from different perspective Bryce and Scott have gone through and knows whats right and wrong. Bryce would in the end be the Ego, the neutral party with being the youngest and would have the sense of understanding what is acceptable being a moderator with his plans to be a counselor. And the fact that he seems to be the most extrovert with having a job that interacts with ppl on a regular basis giving him knowledge of whats acceptable in society than Chris in his cubicle and Scott staying in his house editing videos. Also imo I think u should've asked Bryce to do the Yellow Box voices because he has a lighter voice and more youthful energy, while Chris has a lower tone for the boring white voices. I'm not a big fan of the other voices.
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I always thought Deadpool's voices were part of a mental issue like schizophrenia and wasn't addressing the fourth but suffers paranoia and the only way to soothe his feeling of being watched he acts as if they're nerds/immatures and can overcome them
+NerdSync Scott, I've got my videos done. Can I send it as one file and maybe you can cut it out and place it at different parts of the video or should I send In both separately? They're voice overs btw.
+NerdSync As a note Scott, there is a follow-up comic where Madcap starts to hunt down & murder Deadpool's friends and family after being haunted by Deadpool's memories - in this comic Deadpool uses his own daughter as bait to catch Madcap giving further credence to the fact that Deadpool may have lost his conscience when Macap was removed from his personality. Secondly, I was recently listening to a BBC Podcast on the nature or reality which delved into the human perception of reality & it indeed stated that each person have their own living model of reality & that our sight basically only provides enough information to check against the model our minds have already constructed... meaning that what we actually see is already heavily influenced by our prior experiences. An example of how our brains edit our experiences is in how we perceive people's lips *sync*ing to their mouths... how do we see this when light is so much faster than sound??? Our brain plays pop-DJ and mixes the sound and vision together live!! I think that means we must be running i7 hardware at least! Bringing up perception & how it's made by our past experiences, maybe you could look up the Einstein mask experiment which shows how our brains take shortcuts in how we perceive depth? It's a little creepy & a lot astonishing!
Great video! I've already learned about the ID, EGO and SUPER-EGO, but I sometimes mixed up EGO and SUPER-EGO (didn't help that I learned it in English AND German). Anyway, your video helped clear things up for me there and I think it's a nice thought to apply the theory to Deadpool. Also, I learned something new: the thing about Madcap. 😃
Deadpool's personality is completely unpredictable. That's why the Taskmaster can't copy him or telepaths can't read his mind. I like to think that he goes crazy all the time and then he heals, so the voices could also be representative of different mental illnesses. I think Wade has gone through the complete catalog more than once. For example in a bipolar state, one voice is manic and another depressive. In a paranoid state one voice is afraid and the other confident. In a schizophrenic state one voice is him and the other an imaginary creation, and in the case of multiple personality disorder, well... that's pretty obvious. As he heals he can have moments of lucidity and reflection which are genuine, but soon are mocked by his own new disorder leaving us guessing whether or not that was a true lucid moment or inner sarcasm.
The fact that the white boxes and the yellow boxes switched roles of Id and Super Ego means that each voice could be used as either. And the only reason the yellow boxes (Deadpool's inner thoughts) stayed representing solely one or the other was because there was an opposing view already being voiced via Madcap, who could chose to be either Id or Super Ego based on how much confusion he wanted to cause (really making him neither Id nor Super Ego). Once Madcap was removed, Deadpool's inner voice has to return to what everybody's voice is (conscience and instinct).
That was a really great representation. It does make sense. I feel many people go through this. Me included. I have had moments just like this. The childish decision, the moral decision, and the compromised decision. It's truly brilliant.
I didn't see the Ft. Idea Channel and Ft. NerdSync in the titles of these videos, so the whole time, I'm thinking, "Wow, it is kinda funny you guys uploaded Deadpool videos at nearly the same time," and then BAM Mike appears ten minutes in!.
Not to spoil the movie, but it doesn't include the boxes, which for the longest time I thought was a staple of the character and disappointed me when I left not seeing that. To see this video and know now that it isn't necessarily the case, makes me less sad that they didn't include it, but more sad because some of my favourite Deadpool moments are with his three-way inner monologues. That said, I think the game, gave the best version of those personalities, mostly because they are all his(supposedly). Maybe they'll be included in the sequel? :)
+Nintennerd / N10NRD Well, they did pay a little homage to his two voices during the second taxi scene when Deadpool found out Dopinder kidnapped his cousin. You didn't get the dialog boxes but you did get the two voices.
So...no one else wants to call Scott out for being overly harsh on Freud? Not only is neuroscience starting to support Freud's theories, his ideas influenced some of the most powerful elements of modern psychology. For instance, his theories around the unconscious yielded not only the id/ego/superego, but also ideas around the importance of dreaming, the origins of cognitive science, and social theories around implicit biases and prejudices. Freud's models of development led to modern psychodynamic theory and Erickson's modern model of development - as well as every model of human development since then. Not only that, but it led to the environmental theory of psychology (Brofenbrenner), family systems theory, and attachment theory all within development psychology.
First: awesome video, as always. Second: May I be one of the first to squeal with glee that you partnered up with frickin Idea Channel!!!! I'm no longer watching this small awesome channel overthinking comic books, but one of the best edutainment channels on the interwebs! Dude! congrats!!, I don't have any words to express how awesome this is.
Ray medamiedo Deadpool is a relatively "complex" character. He's always a mix of humor and very dark drama. The movie is a really good example of this. It's all handled in a dark comedy sort of way. Because with Deadpool (at least the earlier versions), it was always pretty clear that his humor was always there to cover up his broken personal struggles and his tragic past that brought him to his shitty current situation. At least I always sort of felt that way, y'know. Daniel Way decided to focus a lot more on the comedic aspect, just turning it into a straight up comedy book. And the further he got into it, the more over the top it was. It felt a lot more crass and a lot more childish to me. Every time Way had the opportunity to explore the depths and complexity of the character, he wouldn't do it and instead would put dick jokes or something. And then there's the fact he added the 2 inside personalities. Before Deadpool had to bounce off of other characters, now it was all in his head. IDK, that's personal preference a 100%, but the fact he made him more shallow and took away the depth and dark dramatic edge, that's the main reason people really don't like it.
Daniels Way's Deadpool is often referred to as Memepool because he was purely comedic. If you read the older stuff of Joe Kelly or even the new stuff done by Duggan there's a much darker and engaging story on top of the humor. Deadpool is actually quite a complex character but people who don't know too much about him just think he's a joke because most people only know of Daniel Way's deadpool. Now don't get me wrong, his run can be fun at times but personally for me only in small doses.
I have always enjoyed Deadpool when he has played the classic sad clown character. He deals with the immense pain he feels through wise cracking, and then that added in with his fourth wall insight, with him knowing that his life is all just some kind of sick pantomime, or his suffering is just for our entertainment, I think makes him unique.
First of all it didn't look like daredevil and Thor really cared that they could has possibly killed two people?!? Second, in my personal head canon I always thought it was Wade Wilson who was talking in the white text boxes because he was a serious mercenary before he got his powers, glad you helped me clear that up Scott! Great video and awesome opening!
+XSpider 2411 (X-Spider2411) Most (if not all) of the Marvel heroes know that Deadpool is basically immortal, so they figured he could heal from that big of a hit... and if he couldn't, well, that's one less pain in the ass for them to deal with.
I've always seen Deadpool's inner voices for what the real world explanation would be: schizophrenia. His various mental illnesses (as well as physical disabilities) add layers to his character that for me personally play a large role in why I love him so much!
+Joaquin Valenzuela that was the evilest part of Deadpool's mind which is locked away which was pre the whole Madcap retcon meaning it was just a voice in his head.
+Joaquin Valenzuela Well Freud's theory is about the average mind, but at that point Deadpool's psyche was completely fractured. Some people argue that the red text boxes were a completely different character and some argue that it was a separate personality that he developed.
I like dead pool videos but I don't like the fact that people put a dead pool in the video and voice it. Just stop forcing the fourth wall breaking. It's painfully dull. I can see why you do it but it doesn't work
hey! just want to say this is one of my fave videos on the channel =), spent alot of time learning about fraud at uni for a unit, never made this conection, THANKS SCOTT was great
I really hope the 2nd Deadpool movie has inner thought dialog boxes like the Deadpool video game. I ESPECIALLY want Deadpool's first initial reaction to them to belong the lines of "Well hello their little yellow floating box in the air" or something to that effect.
+richmyster84 Well, they did pay a little homage to his two voices during the second taxi scene when Deadpool found out Dopinder kidnapped his cousin. You didn't get the dialog boxes but you did get the two voices.
I’m not sure if this would help fill that void, especially 8 years later but I’m working on making a superhero comic about a optimistic rugby player who accidentally fused with an intelligently cynical alien so 😭
The Madcap reveal is a rare "perfect retcon": the reveal makes sense, it brings back an interesting character who has a reason to still exist, no one has to die (in the present anyway) to pull it off, and it gives new story options for Deadpool. There's a lot of time spent within Wade's head in the more recent ones and an ally beat death by living in there for a while.
Again...Another excellent video!!! (I feel that I absolutely MUST say something about it, since I have my MA in psychology, obtaining my degree from the Humanistic, Existential, Phenomenological, & Transpersonal program at University of West GA.) Your understanding & application of psychodynamic principles was superb, IMO. It makes perfect sense that, if the 2nd inner voice is indeed Madcap (another complete personality), then it would not be a consistent superego (as was seen later in the comics). Theorizing is fun, though! = Perhaps Madcap became more of Deadpool's voice of reason as something of a conscience was awakened in him by the merger - to make amends for his own past injustices. Lol. Who knows!
i posted this comment on Mike's video but wanted to make sure you'd see it too: I always thought Deadpool knew he was a comic book character because of his constantly shifting/healing brain structure. It's addressed in the comics that the reason Deadpool is unaffected by telepaths is that his brain is basically goo because it's constantly healing and changing its structure. This has also been used to explain some of his other mental issues and memory problems. This would mean that, like a baby, his brain is constantly forming and reforming it's neural connections, reforming how his brain (and therefore how he) perceives the world around him. Put it this way, when a baby is making all these neural connections for the first time, it couldn't possibly comprehend the notion that everything around it is the construction of a comic book/the writers, so it's brain basically becomes hard-wired to think of the world as being real. This is why the vast majority of marvel characters don't know they're in a comic book - and it's why wade wilson (prior to being deadpool) presumably didn't know he was a comic character. But once his bizarre version of wolverine's healing factor kicked in and his brain reformed all those neural pathways, deadpool (now an adult) could fully comprehend the truth of his world - that it is a comic book. Now he didn't always fully comprehend it after becoming Deadpool, as is evidenced by his very serious and non-meta first appearances, but a revelation like this would take a lot of time to process and come to terms with, and he didn't quite fully embrace it until around the end of Kelly's run. This also explains why (in the DP Kills the Marvel Universe story) Xavier basically becomes a vegetable/brain-dead after Deadpool finally lets him in to read his mind. Xavier is confronted with something that so opposed everything his brain is wired to believe, and his brain broke itself trying to comprehend the truth of their world.
Perfect intro Scott! Congrats to the person that made it. Oh! And thanks for the deadpool video I'm trying to find everything I can about him before I watch the movie! ^_^
I tink they made the reason waay to complicated, they could have just indicated that he infact has different voices in his head. Maybe the result of the experiments performed on him. Was quite funny to see how elaborate they went with this, and even more so connecting it to freud. so thank you :)
Now I want an analysis of the Gray Hulk portion of Peter David's run where Banner is the superego, the green Hulk is the id, and the Gray Hulk is sort of the middle ground or perhaps combining the three into the Merged Hulk is what truly makes up the ego for Banner.
I did write this in variant comics but I thought it would have been cool to put Nolan North as the voices in Deadpools head for the movie. I do like him having other voices in his head. I thought it was more interesting just to view him as crazy as most marvel characters would. The extra voice I would have thought help him see or comprehend the 4th wall? not sure but just a thought.
This video reminded me of the Doc Samson's in-continuity analysis of the Bruce Banner/Green Hulk/Gray Hulk dynamic. Samson theorized that Banner is the rational, scientific superego, the Gray Hulk is the power-hungry, cunning ego, and the Green Hulk is a childish, impulsive id. Also, 8:50 got me thinking, of course, about Harry Potter and Star Wars: Hermione and Leia as superegos, Harry and Luke as egos, and Ron and Han as ids. Interesting to see that egos are usually the main protagonist (easiest to identify with?), and superegos are usually female.
How am I supposed to finish my Spanish homework before it's due if you keep posting these awesome videos? Volver al trabajo. Ya casi termino, no gracias a usted.
Awesome video! But isn't this far too timely for a regular NerdSync video? I mean the Deadpool movie just came out... shouldn't we have Deadpool related content months after or months preceding a release as per tradition? ;)
Hey Scott, as always... GREAT VIDEOO!! Especially since your topic was about Deadpool ( my favorite hero since... ) anyway, can I suggest something? For the following videos ( or even all of your videos after this ) could you use the two boxes again? Just for fun? Thanksss!!! Oh and I think it was Deadpool annual? Not really sure... But... Thanksss and great videoo!!
In my time with comics I have only ever read one books where Deadpool had the white box inner monologue and that was the annual that retconned that voice into Madcap. I have however read almost every issue of the Gerry Duggan run and can confidently say that it is one of my favorite books on the market right now so no I don't miss the white boxes and think Deadpool works just fine with out them.
DEADPOOL NEEDS A SUPPORTING CAST. I can't even express all the reasons of this in a YT comment. This is why Way-pool feel flat. Also why the when Way lost the reigns this whole Madcap thing was retconned in to explain it away.
Wait, so you're saying that most people don't have two other voices in their head.
That was supposed end with a question mark.
+Wyatt Castle U can edit comments on You Tube m8.
+Ninja without borders
I think that's part of the joke
+Pseudo Lain Ha ha. So funny. Nah m8, it's not a joke.
*****
How would you know
Personally, I'm inclined towards the theory that the other two voices are the result of his constant and virulent cancers only kept at bay due to his regenerative factor. In other words: I think he's got two huge cancerous growths in his heads, cancerous brain tissues forming their own personas. Which can communicate with each other.
Which means that the voices would be silenced if the tumors were removed. Of course, he'd probably then cuddle the things tearfully while sobbing, "don't worry, guys! We'll get you back inside me where you belong!"
Hey there, man--great video! Jordan D. White here, editor of the Deadpool comics for the last 5 years or so.
Sorry our Madcap retcon played a little heck with the Freud of it all. Behind the scenes-wise, since the voices had been a Daniel Way creation rather than an original part of Deadpool, when Gerry Duggan and Brian Posehn took over the writing duties with the Marvel Now! Deadpool series, I let them decide if they wanted to continue using the voices or not. Since they chose NOT to, when it came time to do an annual I suggested to Ben Acker & Ben Blacker that we tell the tale of where they came from and where they went. My pitch for them had been that all narrative captions in all comic books are actually symbiotic psychic creatures, and that having more than one would be deadly for a normal character, but Deadpool had been surviving it with his healing factor. Ben and Ben came back with the Madcap pitch instead, and I am glad they did.
If you haven't seen, Madcap comes back in a big way in Gerry Duggan's newest Deadpool relaunch, as he's one of the obscure Marvel characters Deadpool hires to be in his new Mercenary group. Some fun stuff happens with him that relates back to their time together.
Anyway, keep up the great work! This was a fun video.
Well this happened...
Wow.... Ok
Wow Thanks! I loved Ben and Ben's story about the voices and fell in love with the idea of Madcap, so much that I'm hoping to cosplay as him one year. Looking forward to reading the new series and thanks for everything Deadpool. I've subscribed to your channel ;-)
+Jordan D. White holy batman here we go again
Whoa, this may be one of the coolest comments I've seen on a nerdsync vid
I personally love the conflicting voices. It adds some spice to Deadpool's humour, and shows how broken his psyche is after all he's been through. Too bad they had to take them out.
Was I the only one dissapointed these voices weren't in the movie?
+Eu Alex They had somewhat of a mini-appearance, when Deadpool shoots two additional bullets into an already dead enemy, wasting two of his only 12 bullets. He then (in two different voices) says "Stupid!" - "Worth it!"
you have to leave some stuff for a sequel. You cant throw too much stuff at an audience. Especially when you're introducing them to the character which is what the movies are doing.
I guess we wait for deadpool 3
No you are not. I would have preferred the movie to be nothing but Dead-pool arguing with the voices in his head.
It's hard enough to translate one Deadpool into a live action role, imagine having to write, develop, cast and preform 3 Deadpools all contained within the same single actors physicality and interpretation of the character. It would've been fun and pretty cool to hear the voices and stuff, but maybe it's better left so the audience can't hear what deadpools thinking. Story could get overcrowded very easily with three main characters who are completely inseparable.
*Reads video title and says to self
"I don't know why Deadpool has two inner voices but I'm sure as hell ready to find out."
Don't over complicate it.One voice is the little angel on his shoulder however the other voice is the little evil.
Daniel Way addressed this notion as well. He said that really they are both little devils on his shoulders. Haha
+NerdSync Or a devil and a super devil
+Ben Brooks Spiderman is the one with the Angel and Devil :P
+Ben Brooks When you really get into The Bible, Jesus heard the God's Voice. He said when you see me, you see The Father. What exactly is a Prophet?
+Ben Brooks When you really get into The Bible, Jesus heard the God's Voice. He said when you see me, you see The Father. What exactly is a Prophet?
so basically Inside Out
Lol
+Benjamin Luong Or Herman's Head.
+Benjamin Luong R rated Inside Out
+Duck Norris Which a lot of people would definitely pay to see.
+Duck Norris X rated Inside Out
Can someone tell me the comic when it was revealed that Madcap was the yellow box and Doctor Bong was the white one? I'll address it on Monday's video and give you credit!
Deadpool #28
I think it's Deadpool #28
+Evan Liang sorry, I just refreshed the page and you had already commented the answer just in case you thought I was copying your answer I genuinely didn't see your comment :)
+NerdSync I heard a theory that Deadpool was inspired by MK-ultra (the source said that it mirrors some of the damage done to those involved in the program)
Okay, Deadpool #28, but from which volume?
Which of the NerdSync crew represent the id, ego, and superego?
Bryce is the Id, DK is the Super Ego, and the Ego is Scott. Or the Id is Scott, the Super Ego is Scott, and the Ego is Scott...
+NerdSync
Scott is obviously the Id, because of how in the crew he's kinda the leader and pretty much the initiator of things like in the podcast. And usually the guy who said, yeah since when are we ever coordinated lets just go with that.
Chris would be the Super Ego due to his position as the oldest and seemingly holds things together as a compromiser because his life experience usually helps him see from different perspective Bryce and Scott have gone through and knows whats right and wrong.
Bryce would in the end be the Ego, the neutral party with being the youngest and would have the sense of understanding what is acceptable being a moderator with his plans to be a counselor. And the fact that he seems to be the most extrovert with having a job that interacts with ppl on a regular basis giving him knowledge of whats acceptable in society than Chris in his cubicle and Scott staying in his house editing videos.
Also imo I think u should've asked Bryce to do the Yellow Box voices because he has a lighter voice and more youthful energy, while Chris has a lower tone for the boring white voices. I'm not a big fan of the other voices.
+NerdSync Yellow caption box is madcap
+Aguila701 Because the ego is the "powered up" version of the ego. The ID is desires, you cant "power up" them.
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Perfect story for Deadpool, am I right ?
I always thought Deadpool's voices were part of a mental issue like schizophrenia and wasn't addressing the fourth but suffers paranoia and the only way to soothe his feeling of being watched he acts as if they're nerds/immatures and can overcome them
I seriously loved Nolan North's take on Deadpool's inner thoughts
You forgot about the Red Box
from the "Deadpool kills marvel universe"
:(
without the white box I think deadpool would really just kill everyone because the white box i think is basicly his mature part of him
Except that's not true.
***** ok I respect your opinion but thanks just mine and you could be right I could just be 100% wrong
+Elijah Mallory haha define mature, madcap doesn't seem mature, both seem equally crazy to me
He doesn't have both voices in his head anymore they're gone. So your theory is wrong
fernando odnanref yea bro, VOLUME 4!!! Deadpool gonna learn he killed his parents... the hype is real
"and that's a rock fact!" Love the stuffed/toy rock in the background. OTGW is a great cartoon.
WoW! You even have one of those plaid shirts where most of the colours cant be seen by a Camera! This show is amazing!
You have to look at it though a special filter!
+Catlord How what magic is this. What colors?
+NerdSync Scott, I've got my videos done. Can I send it as one file and maybe you can cut it out and place it at different parts of the video or should I send In both separately? They're voice overs btw.
+NerdSync As a note Scott, there is a follow-up comic where Madcap starts to hunt down & murder Deadpool's friends and family after being haunted by Deadpool's memories - in this comic Deadpool uses his own daughter as bait to catch Madcap giving further credence to the fact that Deadpool may have lost his conscience when Macap was removed from his personality.
Secondly, I was recently listening to a BBC Podcast on the nature or reality which delved into the human perception of reality & it indeed stated that each person have their own living model of reality & that our sight basically only provides enough information to check against the model our minds have already constructed... meaning that what we actually see is already heavily influenced by our prior experiences. An example of how our brains edit our experiences is in how we perceive people's lips *sync*ing to their mouths... how do we see this when light is so much faster than sound??? Our brain plays pop-DJ and mixes the sound and vision together live!! I think that means we must be running i7 hardware at least!
Bringing up perception & how it's made by our past experiences, maybe you could look up the Einstein mask experiment which shows how our brains take shortcuts in how we perceive depth? It's a little creepy & a lot astonishing!
I love creepy yet astonishing things! Thanks!
Hey I got 2 inner voices too.
John Pendltton I have 3
I have optimism (the least listened to), pessimism (kinda listened to) and nihilism (yeah I listen to this one too much)
Are u ok
Reminds me of Inside-Out. I wonder what Deadpool's emotions look like...
+[TGR] Clockwork They all wear the Deadpool mask as well
+Noah cg3 A bunch of oddly shaped Deadpools running around in his head
The Ninja Otaku YEAH!
+The Ninja Otaku Read Deapool Volume 3- Deadpool constantly goes inside his own head to reveal how his thoughts/emotions look like.
The Ninja Otaku probably little Deadpool’s
Great video! I've already learned about the ID, EGO and SUPER-EGO, but I sometimes mixed up EGO and SUPER-EGO (didn't help that I learned it in English AND German). Anyway, your video helped clear things up for me there and I think it's a nice thought to apply the theory to Deadpool. Also, I learned something new: the thing about Madcap. 😃
I loved Rick Remender's take on Deadpool. He actually felt less "Bugs Bunny" and more crazy. But he had a no shit arc.
OMG! The Ideas Channel! How did u get him? I remember u said he is one of yr favorite channels. Congrats mate :D
+BanditIncorporated Believe it or not, Mike asked me! Super great guy!
Deadpool's personality is completely unpredictable. That's why the Taskmaster can't copy him or telepaths can't read his mind.
I like to think that he goes crazy all the time and then he heals, so the voices could also be representative of different mental illnesses. I think Wade has gone through the complete catalog more than once. For example in a bipolar state, one voice is manic and another depressive. In a paranoid state one voice is afraid and the other confident. In a schizophrenic state one voice is him and the other an imaginary creation, and in the case of multiple personality disorder, well... that's pretty obvious. As he heals he can have moments of lucidity and reflection which are genuine, but soon are mocked by his own new disorder leaving us guessing whether or not that was a true lucid moment or inner sarcasm.
The fact that the white boxes and the yellow boxes switched roles of Id and Super Ego means that each voice could be used as either. And the only reason the yellow boxes (Deadpool's inner thoughts) stayed representing solely one or the other was because there was an opposing view already being voiced via Madcap, who could chose to be either Id or Super Ego based on how much confusion he wanted to cause (really making him neither Id nor Super Ego). Once Madcap was removed, Deadpool's inner voice has to return to what everybody's voice is (conscience and instinct).
Lol I love the new intro
+Brooke Persinger Me too.
+Brooke Persinger Honestly that editing was incredibly well done.
True
Thanks so much, guys! Glad you liked it!
+NerdSync of course
love the new intro
Thanks!
+NerdSync I like the part with the original iron man
+NerdSync them eyebrows on fleet doe
That was a really great representation. It does make sense. I feel many people go through this. Me included. I have had moments just like this. The childish decision, the moral decision, and the compromised decision. It's truly brilliant.
I didn't see the Ft. Idea Channel and Ft. NerdSync in the titles of these videos, so the whole time, I'm thinking, "Wow, it is kinda funny you guys uploaded Deadpool videos at nearly the same time," and then BAM Mike appears ten minutes in!.
Not to spoil the movie, but it doesn't include the boxes, which for the longest time I thought was a staple of the character and disappointed me when I left not seeing that. To see this video and know now that it isn't necessarily the case, makes me less sad that they didn't include it, but more sad because some of my favourite Deadpool moments are with his three-way inner monologues. That said, I think the game, gave the best version of those personalities, mostly because they are all his(supposedly). Maybe they'll be included in the sequel? :)
+Nintennerd / N10NRD Well, they did pay a little homage to his two voices during the second taxi scene when Deadpool found out Dopinder kidnapped his cousin. You didn't get the dialog boxes but you did get the two voices.
They didnt in the sequel
mad cap is the yellow box the white one is a calm stable one and even had commentary during dead pools and mad caps fight
So...no one else wants to call Scott out for being overly harsh on Freud? Not only is neuroscience starting to support Freud's theories, his ideas influenced some of the most powerful elements of modern psychology.
For instance, his theories around the unconscious yielded not only the id/ego/superego, but also ideas around the importance of dreaming, the origins of cognitive science, and social theories around implicit biases and prejudices.
Freud's models of development led to modern psychodynamic theory and Erickson's modern model of development - as well as every model of human development since then. Not only that, but it led to the environmental theory of psychology (Brofenbrenner), family systems theory, and attachment theory all within development psychology.
First: awesome video, as always.
Second: May I be one of the first to squeal with glee that you partnered up with frickin Idea Channel!!!! I'm no longer watching this small awesome channel overthinking comic books, but one of the best edutainment channels on the interwebs!
Dude! congrats!!, I don't have any words to express how awesome this is.
You think you squealed? You should have heard me! Haha. Thanks so much for sticking with us for so long! It means so much to me!
+NerdSync Thank you for making awesome content. I'm reserving a crisp high five for Vidcon :D
Absolutely!!!
I thought people hated Daniel Way's Deadpool.
Yeeeeeep, we do x)
It's less famous and more infamous.
Ray medamiedo
Deadpool is a relatively "complex" character. He's always a mix of humor and very dark drama. The movie is a really good example of this. It's all handled in a dark comedy sort of way. Because with Deadpool (at least the earlier versions), it was always pretty clear that his humor was always there to cover up his broken personal struggles and his tragic past that brought him to his shitty current situation. At least I always sort of felt that way, y'know.
Daniel Way decided to focus a lot more on the comedic aspect, just turning it into a straight up comedy book. And the further he got into it, the more over the top it was. It felt a lot more crass and a lot more childish to me. Every time Way had the opportunity to explore the depths and complexity of the character, he wouldn't do it and instead would put dick jokes or something.
And then there's the fact he added the 2 inside personalities. Before Deadpool had to bounce off of other characters, now it was all in his head. IDK, that's personal preference a 100%, but the fact he made him more shallow and took away the depth and dark dramatic edge, that's the main reason people really don't like it.
Daniels Way's Deadpool is often referred to as Memepool because he was purely comedic. If you read the older stuff of Joe Kelly or even the new stuff done by Duggan there's a much darker and engaging story on top of the humor. Deadpool is actually quite a complex character but people who don't know too much about him just think he's a joke because most people only know of Daniel Way's deadpool. Now don't get me wrong, his run can be fun at times but personally for me only in small doses.
I have always enjoyed Deadpool when he has played the classic sad clown character. He deals with the immense pain he feels through wise cracking, and then that added in with his fourth wall insight, with him knowing that his life is all just some kind of sick pantomime, or his suffering is just for our entertainment, I think makes him unique.
First of all it didn't look like daredevil and Thor really cared that they could has possibly killed two people?!? Second, in my personal head canon I always thought it was Wade Wilson who was talking in the white text boxes because he was a serious mercenary before he got his powers, glad you helped me clear that up Scott! Great video and awesome opening!
Thor is seriously hilarious in that story! I haven't laughed so hard at a comic in quite some time! "HEDIEDAWARRIORSDEATH!!!"
+NerdSync it's official.... When I die, I shall have that quote on my grave haha
+XSpider 2411 (X-Spider2411) Most (if not all) of the Marvel heroes know that Deadpool is basically immortal, so they figured he could heal from that big of a hit... and if he couldn't, well, that's one less pain in the ass for them to deal with.
+Doug Glassman true i guess lol
I've always seen Deadpool's inner voices for what the real world explanation would be: schizophrenia. His various mental illnesses (as well as physical disabilities) add layers to his character that for me personally play a large role in why I love him so much!
One of the voices in my head called that you'd bring up Freud when I started reading Deadpool.
How could I resist? Haha
"avocado at law" . . . I understood that reference
in the sequel, can one of Deadpool's voices be H Jon Benjamin?
Yes please!
i really wish they kept the voices in his head.
it was hilarious and insightful.
without madcap there he'll never quite be the same...
There needs to be regular NerdSync/Idea Channel crossovers from now on
What about the red box in Deadpool kills the Marvel universe??
+Joaquin Valenzuela that was the evilest part of Deadpool's mind which is locked away which was pre the whole Madcap retcon meaning it was just a voice in his head.
Holy sh*t, and how that fits in the freud theory?
That wasn't even Deadpool anyway
+Joaquin Valenzuela Well Freud's theory is about the average mind, but at that point Deadpool's psyche was completely fractured. Some people argue that the red text boxes were a completely different character and some argue that it was a separate personality that he developed.
oh yeah I forgot about that
I like dead pool videos but I don't like the fact that people put a dead pool in the video and voice it. Just stop forcing the fourth wall breaking. It's painfully dull. I can see why you do it but it doesn't work
The new intro is incredible, this video was super interesting, and I knew it! Mike and Scott are actually voices in each other's head.
You're absolutely right!
hey! just want to say this is one of my fave videos on the channel =), spent alot of time learning about fraud at uni for a unit, never made this conection, THANKS SCOTT was great
+God King Mopee mike too!
Thank you so much, Mopee! It's always an honor when your awesomeness stops by to deliver such kind words!
*****
im always around scott, im with u always
Who did the voices for the boxes?
+xander trejo It was Scott! (with a little bit of editing help on my end)
DKlarations I was thinking that was the case but was not sure.
+DKlarations I was really hoping they were you and Aurum
+Eugenideddis Dang! That would've been great!
Deadpool is probably a Gemini
He is kind of bipolar, talks a lot and so on
More likely that Deadpool is a Pisces based on his personality
I would def say a Gemini or Sagittarius. I am a Gemini and sometimes I talk to myself on decisions but not on DP's level. 😂😂
+just a vegan same
Scott you got to do a collab with Mike AND one of Deadpool's editors commented. You've made it big.
Secrets are things the voices in my head say never to tell unless I'm sure no-one can stop me. 😁
I really hope the 2nd Deadpool movie has inner thought dialog boxes like the Deadpool video game. I ESPECIALLY want Deadpool's first initial reaction to them to belong the lines of "Well hello their little yellow floating box in the air" or something to that effect.
Give this man a trophy
+richmyster84 Well, they did pay a little homage to his two voices during the second taxi scene when Deadpool found out Dopinder kidnapped his cousin. You didn't get the dialog boxes but you did get the two voices.
Lol I never noticed that
I love idea channel's choice in plushest. And that's a rock fact
Yellow box - Best video ever!! White box - You might be saying same thing when watching the Idea Channel video.
I'd love for more characters to have split inner monologues like Deadpool did.
I’m not sure if this would help fill that void, especially 8 years later but I’m working on making a superhero comic about a optimistic rugby player who accidentally fused with an intelligently cynical alien so 😭
Amazing video scott and I especially loved the intro
Thank you! I think it turned out quite nicely!
+NerdSync I gotta ask is there gonna be a return of the boxes
Haven't decided yet!
It would be really interesting to see both a character’s superid, superego, and ego all act as one single mindset
I loved the dead pool game that was my favorite game ever it was funny as heck
Love the Phenomenology of Perception on the shelf next to Mike!
The Madcap reveal is a rare "perfect retcon": the reveal makes sense, it brings back an interesting character who has a reason to still exist, no one has to die (in the present anyway) to pull it off, and it gives new story options for Deadpool. There's a lot of time spent within Wade's head in the more recent ones and an ally beat death by living in there for a while.
This disfigured avocado-
Deadpool: thank you.
XD YESSS! I KNEW THERE WOULD BE A MOVIE REFERENCE
This is perfect! I decided to watch this video just before starting my homework on...Freud!
Again...Another excellent video!!! (I feel that I absolutely MUST say something about it, since I have my MA in psychology, obtaining my degree from the Humanistic, Existential, Phenomenological, & Transpersonal program at University of West GA.) Your understanding & application of psychodynamic principles was superb, IMO. It makes perfect sense that, if the 2nd inner voice is indeed Madcap (another complete personality), then it would not be a consistent superego (as was seen later in the comics). Theorizing is fun, though! = Perhaps Madcap became more of Deadpool's voice of reason as something of a conscience was awakened in him by the merger - to make amends for his own past injustices. Lol. Who knows!
This is your best video so far man. Hope you keep making them this long and elaborated.
"Lets wrap this up...Like a Chimichanga!" made me laugh so much!
Holy damn that acting at the start, good job Scott
I love when I've missed a RUclipsr's videos for a while then get to go back and watch them all.
Also, love the new intro man!
This video was relly intresting and the intro was super cool!
I love it when two youtubers i enjoy get together and make awesome stuff
Yay! Two of my favorite channels teamed up to talk about an awesome character!
At 20:19 when he says chimichanga in that adorable voice! *-* I imagine him to literally have a ' *Q* , face :"D
dropping some Freud knowledge much respect. Scott
i posted this comment on Mike's video but wanted to make sure you'd see it too:
I always thought Deadpool knew he was a comic book character because of his constantly shifting/healing brain structure.
It's addressed in the comics that the reason Deadpool is unaffected by telepaths is that his brain is basically goo because it's constantly healing and changing its structure. This has also been used to explain some of his other mental issues and memory problems.
This would mean that, like a baby, his brain is constantly forming and reforming it's neural connections, reforming how his brain (and therefore how he) perceives the world around him.
Put it this way, when a baby is making all these neural connections for the first time, it couldn't possibly comprehend the notion that everything around it is the construction of a comic book/the writers, so it's brain basically becomes hard-wired to think of the world as being real.
This is why the vast majority of marvel characters don't know they're in a comic book - and it's why wade wilson (prior to being deadpool) presumably didn't know he was a comic character.
But once his bizarre version of wolverine's healing factor kicked in and his brain reformed all those neural pathways, deadpool (now an adult) could fully comprehend the truth of his world - that it is a comic book.
Now he didn't always fully comprehend it after becoming Deadpool, as is evidenced by his very serious and non-meta first appearances, but a revelation like this would take a lot of time to process and come to terms with, and he didn't quite fully embrace it until around the end of Kelly's run.
This also explains why (in the DP Kills the Marvel Universe story) Xavier basically becomes a vegetable/brain-dead after Deadpool finally lets him in to read his mind. Xavier is confronted with something that so opposed everything his brain is wired to believe, and his brain broke itself trying to comprehend the truth of their world.
ooh no wonder Idea channel also released something about deadpool. Yey Collab.
i skipped volume 2 of deadpool, so this was really interesting to see. I especially appreciate more how madcap shows up in volume 4 now.
Perfect intro Scott! Congrats to the person that made it. Oh! And thanks for the deadpool video I'm trying to find everything I can about him before I watch the movie! ^_^
Today on my German Film class we talked about Freud and his theory about Id, Ego and Super Ego and this video touches the same subject, cool
To make a joke because you can does not mean you should.
Great info from this video.
I tink they made the reason waay to complicated, they could have just indicated that he infact has different voices in his head. Maybe the result of the experiments performed on him.
Was quite funny to see how elaborate they went with this, and even more so connecting it to freud. so thank you :)
Now I want an analysis of the Gray Hulk portion of Peter David's run where Banner is the superego, the green Hulk is the id, and the Gray Hulk is sort of the middle ground or perhaps combining the three into the Merged Hulk is what truly makes up the ego for Banner.
I've always called the sophisticated one Wilson and the hyper one Wade. their part of Wade Wilson and what helps Deadpool be Deadpool
I love the idea of Mad Cap being in Deadpool's body
I did write this in variant comics but I thought it would have been cool to put Nolan North as the voices in Deadpools head for the movie. I do like him having other voices in his head. I thought it was more interesting just to view him as crazy as most marvel characters would. The extra voice I would have thought help him see or comprehend the 4th wall? not sure but just a thought.
Lol people are so fascinated by him having multiple inner voices. until I was 17 I thought everyone did :)
Deadpool has two inner voices to keep him sane and none murder-spree-y under the weight of the 4th wall
Daniel Way's interpretation of Deadpool is by far my favorite...from start to end.
That new intro is on point. GG guys
I never actually thought of Freud. But it does make a lot of sense.
I'm kinda sad to hear that deadpiols white boxes are gone. I absolutely loved this concept in the video game.
This video reminded me of the Doc Samson's in-continuity analysis of the Bruce Banner/Green Hulk/Gray Hulk dynamic. Samson theorized that Banner is the rational, scientific superego, the Gray Hulk is the power-hungry, cunning ego, and the Green Hulk is a childish, impulsive id. Also, 8:50 got me thinking, of course, about Harry Potter and Star Wars: Hermione and Leia as superegos, Harry and Luke as egos, and Ron and Han as ids. Interesting to see that egos are usually the main protagonist (easiest to identify with?), and superegos are usually female.
I liked the different voices in his head and I would love to them back
How am I supposed to finish my Spanish homework before it's due if you keep posting these awesome videos? Volver al trabajo. Ya casi termino, no gracias a usted.
Awesome video! But isn't this far too timely for a regular NerdSync video? I mean the Deadpool movie just came out... shouldn't we have Deadpool related content months after or months preceding a release as per tradition? ;)
Hey Scott, as always... GREAT VIDEOO!! Especially since your topic was about Deadpool ( my favorite hero since... ) anyway, can I suggest something? For the following videos ( or even all of your videos after this ) could you use the two boxes again? Just for fun? Thanksss!!! Oh and I think it was Deadpool annual? Not really sure... But... Thanksss and great videoo!!
this is a really good explanation... my friend often complain why the movie didn't have his inner voices and now I got a solid proof... thanks :)
How awesome. Just learned about freud in AP psych this week.
I've been wondering about this for the past few days and then I saw this on my channel under "Recommended" lols thanks for all this info.
In my time with comics I have only ever read one books where Deadpool had the white box inner monologue and that was the annual that retconned that voice into Madcap. I have however read almost every issue of the Gerry Duggan run and can confidently say that it is one of my favorite books on the market right now so no I don't miss the white boxes and think Deadpool works just fine with out them.
Well I gauss NerdSync is now DeadPool
10;04 I like the tarsus in the back round.
DEADPOOL NEEDS A SUPPORTING CAST. I can't even express all the reasons of this in a YT comment. This is why Way-pool feel flat. Also why the when Way lost the reigns this whole Madcap thing was retconned in to explain it away.
HOLY CRAP! AWESOME INTRO!!
where have I been for 4 days to miss this video