Budget Nissan Frontier “LongTravel” Suspension
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
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2005+ Nissan Frontier/Xterra/Pathfinder
2004+ Nissan Titan
You will have to do your own research to confirm fit to your vehicle.
Upper control arms
lower control arms
inner tie rods
outer tie rods
Brake lines
lower control arm alignment bolts/you might not have these from factory or may need to cut out your existing.
coilover spacer (this is really not meant to be a long term solution, but it does work fine) or aftermarket coilovers to suit your build
M205 front differential with matching gear ratio
half axles
bump stops
alignment
recommended tire for this is like a 32.8/33inch depending on wheel offset. recommend stock wheels or you will look like a rollerskate.
i take no responsability for your rolled truck when you dont know what you are doing and it all falls apart. this is just a jump off point and to inform you that you dont need to spend a ton of money to have a ton of fun.
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Awesome video. Another solid dump of information.
The one thing that may have been missed is if someone wants to keep the R180, they can order CV shafts from a 2014 QX80 and have Titan swap width CV axles that fit the R180.
Awesome info I didn’t even think to add!
Is this real? Ive never heard this
@@max.b92 you betcha
@@TreeLovinAdventuresis it just the cv shaft? Or can I use the whole cv axle of the qx80 for my R180A?
@@franzdemesa5663 the whole cv axle works
The main reason I went with SPC upper arms for my truck was for ability to push the wheels forward to give more room for the tires while still allowing proper alignment specs. I was able to use the ADO lockout washers maxed out and used the upper arm to set the camber and caster. It is still a ball joint, so I doubt any travel was gained over an OEM arm.
I love that the SPC arms do that.
I worry that since I was alone talking I wasn’t able to convey 100% of the message I wanted but really the goal was to show you can get good travel out of this truck for cheap and it be reliable.
Those SPC arms are legit!
@@andys_log it's good to show / have discussion of all ways to titan swap. Like you mentioned, it's easy to think you need to throw cubic dollars at a rig to make it better. If a person was looking at a suspension with a few miles and was buying tie rods and possibly control arms anyway, it's not much more to make it awesome.
Dude this deep dive into a budget titan swap was wicked to learn about. I thought a titan swap wouldent of made sense for me until now. Only hard part sounds like switching out the front diffs on the floor. i would want to run stock parts for sure rather then custom 1 off half axles
It is better to do a front diff swap to the m205 the r180 is not bulletproof the cv axles on it are also a weak point but it does work fine.
@thedude828-ed2nn on 33's with qx80 axles on the r180 wont be bulletproof as in what sense?
Love the shop cat
I did the swap and I put stock coil overs with a spacer and it dropped my front almost to my wheel wells you need the bigger shocks
Thanks for sharing!! Love the fact you pointed out the upper control arm is also stock Titan and you don't have coil bucket. I am currently piecing my titan swap suspension for my Xterra
Thank you for mentioning the stock strut + spacer as well!
Awesome thanks for the info. Exactly what I was looking for. Any info on a the budget rear lift to level it? Some rear info would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Do you need titan/armada spindles?
Can you use 4wd spindles (titan/armada) on a 2wd Frontier?
Thanks! Great video!
Very useful information. Thanks for sharing. Steering knuckle is same as well?
The steering knuckle between the Titan and the frontier dimensions are the same but the hub pattern is different!
So with this budget T-swap I could use stock frontier coilovers with a 2-2.5 in spacer and some adjustable cam bolts and be somewhat aligned/ lifted? I would do it for science, but atm it is my daily 😂
Correct.
Keep in mind the more you lift the more you will need adjustment. So if you plan to lift over 2-3” you absolutely will need aftermarket upper control arms and should run a coil over
Great Content. Andy where are you located?
I need a link for those brake lines please
7:47 to run the stock differential you use infinity QX80 axles no custom axles needed
i just bought a 2014 sv 2.5L and i already want to put in some better suspension and your videos really help. i mechanically retarded but i can do simple shit so thanks
You should swap a vk56 v8 from the titan as well. It is a simple-ish swap as well.
Lol
Are you sure he should?
I'm pretty sure he's already done it.
If I already have a lift kit (coilover), could I just run that without the spacer?
Hey, quick question. Where can I find a locking rear differential for a reasonable price. I was given a rebuilt R-180 with the 3.36 gear ratio but can’t find a decent price on the locking rear differential. I know I could change out the ring & pinion. But would rear like to have the locker
This Nissan Frontier is the D40 correct? Because I believe the D40's front IFS is also similar to the D23 NP300
Yea D40 but I don’t know 100% if that IFS system is the same I’ve never worked on it before.
@@andys_log thank you. I’ll do my research about this. But in my initial research, the D40’s stock upper and lower control arms are compatible with the Nissan D23. Even the upper ball joints are the same. Is the Titan’s upper ball joint also same as the D40’s?
So for my 11 frontier I can buy 11 Titan arms and rods then put my +2 struts in? With the QX axles of course.
How durable will it be with stock parts? I have a stock 2016 desert runner. Could I use my stock billstiens?
What brake hose do I need to purchase?
So I really want t to do this to my 2016 frontier desert runner. One question is that I also want to put leveling spacers on to give me a 2” additional lift. Is that possible? I’d like a 6” suspension lift, with the 4” Titan swap. Could I get longer radflow shocks that would help me achieve this?
What I was talking about here is a budget travel.
You need to specify “hack job” in your searching criteria and I bet you can better find the answer you are looking for
Are you serious? I’m asking an honest question. Is it possible?
I think you can do Spindles on a 2wd, then with a titan suspension swap that will allow you to run a larger coilover. You’ll have to speak to someone that’s done that specific setup to find out the sizing
@@dahatcheryi think you need a drop bracket for that, anything past 3 inch lift and the cv could bind at full droop. I have a 6 inch rc lift but im pulling it off and going for 2.5 inch titan swap.
@@marco4081 my truck isn’t 4wd. I know that all I would need is CST 4” lift spindles and because of that perhaps run the Titan upper control arms and a 2” spacer lift. That should give a good 6” total lift, install the Titan lowers control arms when I’m ready for an additional 3-4” lift for a nice prerunner look .
How would you even things up in the back?
Leaf springs!!
I don't see the sway bar? Is there a way?
Yep. Just run titan sway bar. If lifted for sure run after market extended links.
Wait, do I need to titan swap my spindle?
No.
My question is if ur lifting it say 3 in will u be eating tires like in doing now with stock uca
I specifically didn’t touch on that because every setup is different.
If you are on this setup on 3inches with a good alignment you should be fine.
If you are 3 or more on this setup you might have to get an aftermarket upper for more adjustment.
That extra inch of lift won’t do as much as you’d like off-road. Trust me lol
@@andys_log I'm limited on lift do to living in Pa 3inch is the max without knowing the local judge 😂😆😂 I bought the truck with 2.5 lift and stock uca and went to spc upper and I still chew through tires still
Sounds like you are lifting on stock arms.
Not on the extended travel Titan suspension arms I am talking about in the video.
@@andys_log yes lifting stick titen arms can have the same effect just not as bad
@@aaronzeigler1332if you are on stock titan arms it sounds like you are lifting beyond what it’s capable of. Lower it a little so it saves your tires and you can get more time on the trail.
No one gets a trophy for being the most lifted truck
These company like King and blahh blahh charges an arm and a leg for long travel
And they are worth it! But they are expensive. You just have to do your research and really have a good understanding of what you are jumping into before pulling the trigger.
Not long travel lol mid travel
In the context of what we are doing it is a long travel setup. It’s not a high speed desert racing long travel no.
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