What if Sir Pentious sacrificed himself to save his friends? I think thag would be great for his character. Finally gaining everyone's respect and dying in a meaningful way, perhaps even proving himself worthy of heaven through this.
@Mourningstar_666 the only person that would have enough power to smite him and that would realistically go to hell would be Michael (who is usually the leader of heavens army) but we don't even know if he exists in the hellaverse
My question is how has Charlie not already realized that angels can be harmed, as with the new revelation in eps 6 that Vaggie is an angel, and Charlie met her with her eye cut out and wings torn. If Alastor wants to make a deal, it would be a pointless one as she would already know.
But the point is that it was done. And the fact that from the information we know, exorcists only carry angelic weapons; therefore, they can be hurt with things that are in hell (with Carmila Carmine heading an angelic weapon market and with sir pentious having ordered angelic weapons)
There's always the possibility that vivsiepop is lying I'm not accusing her of anything, it's just that i'd always thought that an amazing way to add more tention to a season finale is to lie to a fanbase about someone dying, whether someone does actually die or if someone doesnt
Not necessarily. Just because he has three wings doesn't mean he is a Seraphim. Viv confirmed that Lucifer was the second most powerful character in the universe only to God.
@@adriankuban2904 But Lucifer was not confirmed to be a seraphim in this show and biblically he is not a Seraphim. Maybe she just put three wings on him to show intimidation.
@@MuricaFkYeah he's a seraphim in the show he has 6 wings (no other angels have that many) even his throne is a seraphim. He probably been changed to one because how different cherubs are in the show
doesn't really matter if he is one or not but it IS confirmed that he is invulnerable to angelic weapons and can only be smited by more powerful beings (no one that will actually attend the extermination)@@MuricaFkYeah
Nobody has mentioned Nifty. I think it would be funny if she died sine in Husk's words 'you don't even want to know what her deal is.' so the idea of her dying with all her secrets is kind of funny in a cruel way
I don't think anything will happen to Lucifer. He's too powerful. But if it does, that'd suck. Even for the short appearance he's had on the show, his characterization has been perfect. He's my fav 😭
Thrilled for Rosie's spotlight and the climax! I'm curious about Charlie's transition into a badass princess; it's pretty safe to assume she's going to recruit a cannibal army to protect her people... that's just pure character development. But pretty sure that hell will be left underpopulated after the war in any case, no one can stop a havoc in all 9 circles. Let's enjoy the finale.
I doubt it's Lucifer that's going to die simply because that would shake things up too much for Helluva Boss, regardless of if the two are set around the same time or not. Since HB doesn't take place in Pentagram City, the exterminations and if they continue or not doesn't affect I.M.P. much at all, but a shake up like Lucifer dying would absolutely, given that Asmodeus is a Sin and a prominent character.
If Alastor does indeed have some goals or agenda that specifically requires Charlie, then what better way to further worm his way into her confidence then to give her this vital and very important bit of information right now in this harrowing hour? Now some might think this would be the time for him to say "Let's make a deal~" but honestly I don't think so, because I personally think it would actually work even more in his favor to have Charlie's full confidence and faith, and info like this given to her in her most desperate moment with 'no strings attached' would pretty much make him one of her favorite and most trusted people... and that likely is very much what he wants. And, having gained this level of trust with her, and having garnered her gratefulness, it would make actually striking a deal with her later easier by tugging a bit more at her heartstrings. "Why my dear, haven't you learned that you can trust me by now? After all, if I'd wanted anything _nefarious_ with you, I had the perfect chance back during the extermination, didn't I~?"
My theory is that Alastor knows how powerful Charlie could become and after seeing the new episodes I’m positive that he knows staying by her side will keep him winning. There’s a goal but I also kinda think he’s getting comfortable with them
This would be cool but even as a "Fallen" the seraphim are still worried about the idea of Lucifer getting involved. I think he's way too powerful to be damaged by anyone else is Hazbin/Helluva except for like "god"
i don't want it either😭😭😭 buuuuut it doesn't necessarily mean that has to be the last time we see him! we could see more of his backstory and stuff through flashbacks and stuff!❤️❤️❤️
Charlie wasn't first children of Lilith and Lucifer but they all born death. LadySygerrik Some stories of Lilith have her cursed with the inability to have children, with all of hers being either born dead or dying shortly after being born. It could be Charlie isn't their first child, just the first one to survive. Valentino simp If we learned anything from HB, it's that Viv love morbid backstories soooo
Lucifer was a seraphim, he'd need an insane nerf to die to someone as lowly as Adam. Also Lilith and Charlie gain their power through Lucifer. His death would basically kill any plot line of "Charlie awakening her power"
If we go the route of many cartoons/anime before, usually it's the first main villain that gets killed off in first season, setting the series up for the next, stronger, villain. Adam getting killed by Hell's forces would set up for a stronger force from Heaven than the 'normal strikeforce' that's sent yearly.
It's a shame that Hazbin and Helluva can’t really crossover for legal reasons, if Lucifer were to die the consequences would be outrageous. He's a recluse but he's kinda this unseen influence even if unintentionally- the apple and snake imagery mostly shown throughout hell, the circus imagery inspired by him, if he were to die hell would basically fall apart, the sins would revolt and maybe start wars. Hell is already an anarchy but I always get the vibe that Lucifer is sort of like the ‘God’ of hell, unseen and unknown but not to be messed with, his death would spell trouble. I mean hell is filled with power hungry psychos who would do anything to get power, and yet Lucifer has been the uncontested ruler since it's foundation- no-one has been able to beat him and I don't see that changing. Heaven would definitely get involved too, Lucifer is a seraphim and probably one of the former elder angels, his death would spell a lot of implications and trouble for them too.
@@crossedoutpebz Lucifer is Seraphine and this kind of angels is one of most powerfull. This high ranking angel could be defeated be another similar angel like Sera.
@@crossedoutpebzCharlie wasn't first children of Lilith and Lucifer but they all born death. LadySygerrik Some stories of Lilith have her cursed with the inability to have children, with all of hers being either born dead or dying shortly after being born. It could be Charlie isn't their first child, just the first one to survive. Valentino simp If we learned anything from HB, it's that Viv love morbid backstories soooo
@@crossedoutpebzAlastor's Wendigo form is best thing on this show my favorite Asexual character. I love Lilith and Lucifer story something of this is even in demonology. Charlie and Vaggie are best couple. Vivziepop is using 7th Deadly Sins with this source of information material. So they are Fallen Angels which followed Lucifer down. Maybe....? Lucifer (Fallen Angel of Pride), Satan (Devil of Wrath), Leviathan (Dragon of Envy), Asmodeus (Nephil of Lust), Mammon (Demon of Greed), Belphegor (Demon of Sloth), Beelzebub (Fallen Angel of Gluttony) Just like that in her hell you have 7th rings which are one under another and pride ring is on top has 9 cycles 1. Pentagram city, 2.Imp city; ...
@@adriankuban2904 I highly doubt Lucifer is a Seraphim. Just because he has three wings doesn't mean anything. Biblically, he has nothing to do with the Seraphim. Plus, Sera wouldn't be able to kill him, as he was confirmed to be the second most powerful being next to God himself.
Well, I called it a few days ago. I wasn't sure if anybody was going to go down the rabbit hole that I went down but I'm glad somebody did. I have no following and I don't really have a way to record or do anything so you know best I can do is you share my comment. Makes me happy to know that somebody else drew the same conclusion that I did. I do believe Lucifer is going to die and that is going to throw Charlie into the leader that I know she can be.
Lucifer can't die, at least not in the way this is set up, he is invulnerable to angelic weapons and can only be smited by a being of higher power than him, and neither Adam or the exorcists weild that kind of power so unless the elders of Heaven join the battle, there ain't no way he will die
@@andreitv9921 narratively it has to happen. If Charlie is going to become the leader of hell that we all know that she can be she's going to have to suffer some sort of loss now since Lucifer is technically the head of hell and the king of hell he would have to fall in order for Charlie to assent and at that point I do believe Lilith would come back to help Charlie rule hell.
@@xellos305 I never said that he can't die, it just... won't be this season, not with the way it's currently set up. An extermination? NO ONE in that army is capable of even touching Lucifer, nevermind kill him. So unless the freaking elders are attending this extermination, it's just...not believable, it's pure bullshit and a complete disregard for the lore that has been built for 4 years. Charlie ruling Hell is like a show finale kind of thing imo, not season 1 finale, and even then, who's to say she's going to rule Hell? For all we know, She could very well become the ruler of Heaven, but that's for when the show will come to a conclusion, not season 1
Viv's already mentioned she wants the story to work out as a trilogy as it suit the way she wants to tell it pretty well. I think Season 2's villains are more likely to be the V's as a whole followed up by Roo in Season 3. I dont mention Lilith here as I don't think she'll wind up being a Villian, important yes, likely with some lore shattering reveal, but I don't see her becoming a series long villain like Adam is.
Everything seen so far reminds me of Diablo 3 plot. Tyrael fighting Imperius to save the innocent ones - Emily fighting Sera to save the innocent ones Imperius changed his opinion about Nephalem after he defeated Diablo - Sera changing her opinion about Charlie after she saved a soul Imperius helped Nephalem to defeat Maltael before disapearing - Seria helped Charlie to defeat Roo before disapearing
in a live stream that the cast did a long ago they said lucifer cant die to the angelic weapons only from an angel of higher ranking than himself with him being a high ranking angel himself with him possible being hinted at to being a seraph don't think that's going to happen but good video keep it up
Honestly I’d love if Alastor doesn’t tell her. And tries to use it at leverage against her for a deal. Now we’re all thinking Charlie will take the deal. But I would love if she got mad at Alastor. He’s been there for months. They’ve grown to be a family. Yet Alastor still is only thinking of himself not the thousands of lives he could save. And knowing he’s known this information for sometime could enrage Charlie. I would love to see Charlie show Alastor that she is more powerful than him and that actually scares him. Causing his infamous grin to disappear as fear takes over. Especially if the Lilith theory is correct and he’s there to protect her. It could show the chains that he has like with Husk. It would be a very life shattering moment for Alastor. Not only to see Charlie being stronger than him, but to see the chains that actually hold him making him powerless. That would be a character development from Alastor that I’d love to see.
@@crossedoutpebz I know who it was. But the reason I said that was because at the time he faked his death?💀so I js assumed he was the one who dies lmao
I Love Lucifer too much for him to die, the story just wouldn't be the same without him, also I don't think any of the angels have the power to even harm lucifer, adam & his army is far too weak not to mention only a being of higher ranking can hurt him, maybe sarah is the only angel who can actually harm him. OHH Or even the Elders
Even tho Lucifer didn't died in season 1 but I do think He will die in the end, we all know that Lucifer and Charlie are immortal so Charlie being the daughter of an immortal king is just the princess of hell but through out the series we see people keep saying that Charlie is the aire to the throne I don't think that would like be even possible if the person on the throne is immortal unless they are planning on killing him And we all how much vivzipop pays attention to this type of small details. I think he will die and to prove heaven and Charlie become the queen of hell and work with heaven (i think smt will also happens to sera and emily will take the charge) to keep the sinner that belongs to the hell in hell (totally not talking about valentino) and send the redeemed soul to heaven in order keep the balance.
Only a angel higher rank could kill Lucifer so Adam is out of the question so Lucifer will not die as a matter of fact I’m sure he’ll show up be a badass in the last minute if Charlie and her crew are getting wrecked by Adam and his angels
@@crossedoutpebz I’m sure he won’t he’s got a lot potential besides he’s one of the seven princes I’m sure he has a role for helluva boss since it is in the same universe
That dont make sense because theres a trading card of upgraded hotel so my theory is the hotel gets destroyed in epizode 8 and in serie 2 he will repair and upgrade hotel and there was battle card with serphant so i think seprhant die ( bdv thats nots realy my theory i just find it on youtube and i think it can happen for 90 % because what can be more funnier and devastating then character that is cry baby and diee few epizodes after he joined hotel ? )
I don’t think angels can descend to hell cause I doubt there hasn’t been a angel killed with a non angel weapon but then that angel would respawn into heaven and we also haven’t seen the excorsiste who died to carmilla be a sinner
I think vaggie is actually gonna die, and I think Adam is the one that kills her that or vivzie is being a dork and is gonna kill off the egg boys or angels pet pig thing.
In my opinion it could be Lucifer or Sir Pentius. You've already said everything about Lucifer. As for the Sir Pentius I noticed in episode 5 that he was the only one who cried two times when Charlie talked to her dad. What if Lucifer would be in danger and Pentius will sacrifice himself to let Charlie stay with her dad? For everything she did for him. But yet again I recall that line from More than anything about starting all over again and not being pulled apart again... this seems like a red flag...
Nah, NAH! We just met him! Now, my logical, side, speaking, it is possible that no one dies but instead have a near death experience that causes Charlie to snap to defend them because she doesn’t want any of them to die and suffer. It is highly likely might be Lucifer might die but why I think he won’t is because 1. We just met him, 2. His relationship with Charlie just started to be mended so there should be more father, daughter, moments, and 3. With the whole controversy with Lilith, I believe Lucifer would still need to be alive to tell his side of the story. And why I don’t think they’re gonna they might talk about Lilith in the next episode is because the focus is on the war. Plus, it would be cool to see some angel with a shotgun type scenario. Now for how the season might end, the death could be that one of the main Angels, or someone getting cast out of heaven like Adam and/or we get to see a clip of Lilith or Alastor, talking to someone. I don’t really have any evidence to back this up other than it would be a horrible cliffhanger Another mini theory I have is the reason why Lilith might have taken Charlie away from her father. The reason could be, because she was an independent or headstrong woman as was told in the beginning of the series, she might’ve wanted Charlie to grow up as an independent woman, not relying on her father. Because she saw how much Lucifer adored and doted Charlie, that can be the driving motivation to move away if that was the case. Dumb but still a possibility. Maybe that’s why she tried to prevent a relationship between her and her father as she grew up. Or maybe it can be because of Lucifer’s stories, She doesn’t want Charlie to have dreams about going against heaven, but instead focus on growing hell. Just to ramble, I think it would be cool, seeing some of the sinners use their powers together to fight off the angels. Like imagine Alastor using his tentacle things to throw Charlie in the air, or even rocks at the angels or bombs! Amazing Bossfight
Lucifer can just single handedly defeat the whole army since he can not be harmed by angelic weapons, so unless the sheraphims go down there, nothing will happen to Luci, not in season 1 at least
I like your theory, but the issue with it is that Lucifer cannot be killed easily at all, lore-wise. He would need to be smitten by quite a high-ranking angel, like Sera maybe, to kill him. So, while it is a nice theory, I don’t think they’ll force Sera into the extermination scene any time soon. Lucifer will probably survive for another season.
Alastor's Wendigo form is best thing on this show my favorite Asexual character. I love Lilith and Lucifer story something of this is even in demonology. Charlie and Vaggie are best couple. Vivziepop is using 7th Deadly Sins with this source of information material. So they are Fallen Angels which followed Lucifer down. Maybe....? Lucifer (Fallen Angel of Pride), Satan (Devil of Wrath), Leviathan (Dragon of Envy), Asmodeus (Nephil of Lust), Mammon (Demon of Greed), Belphegor (Demon of Sloth), Beelzebub (Fallen Angel of Gluttony) Just like that in her hell you have 7th rings which are one under another and pride ring is on top has 9 cycles 1. Pentagram city, 2.Imp city; ...
what makes you think that someone will die in season 1? this video you legit just came up with the idea that someone will die and out of nowhere you decided that lucifer would be a good candidate, and trust me, if someone does indeed die in season 1, leakers would have already leaked it no i dont think they would just kill someone on season 1, and even if they do, we already know that sinners can "pull themselves together" as velvette says on episode 2.
No offense but I believe this is wrong because vibzie pop herself confirm that Lucifer being a fallen angel can only be killed by an Angel of a higher ranking than him smiting him Adam isn't a higher rank than Lucifer
What if Sir Pentious sacrificed himself to save his friends? I think thag would be great for his character. Finally gaining everyone's respect and dying in a meaningful way, perhaps even proving himself worthy of heaven through this.
@@random0me1🤦🏽even if it was true why the fuck would you spoil that….
It was sir pentious and you 100% spoiled it for people. Comment this after the show releases. Do better
i'm sorry guys. i just caught this, i've deleted the comment to prevent further spoilers, im really sorry everyone😭
How did you know
@@wintersfox18it was a lucky guess, relax
I love this theory, but I don't want Luci to die 😭.
Viv already said main characters won’t be gotten rid of. So don’t worry!
5:38 Can you imagine that at that moment there is a cliffhanger? And that's where the season ends
Well I don't know about lucifer death, since angelic weapons don't work on him. And he can be killed by greater power😅
@Mourningstar_666 the only person that would have enough power to smite him and that would realistically go to hell would be Michael (who is usually the leader of heavens army) but we don't even know if he exists in the hellaverse
@Mourningstar_666lucifer is probably stronger than sera since he has 6 wings himself
My question is how has Charlie not already realized that angels can be harmed, as with the new revelation in eps 6 that Vaggie is an angel, and Charlie met her with her eye cut out and wings torn. If Alastor wants to make a deal, it would be a pointless one as she would already know.
That was done by another angel, not by forces of Hell.
But the point is that it was done. And the fact that from the information we know, exorcists only carry angelic weapons; therefore, they can be hurt with things that are in hell (with Carmila Carmine heading an angelic weapon market and with sir pentious having ordered angelic weapons)
There's always the possibility that vivsiepop is lying
I'm not accusing her of anything, it's just that i'd always thought that an amazing way to add more tention to a season finale is to lie to a fanbase about someone dying, whether someone does actually die or if someone doesnt
that could be a thing too!❤️
i honestly hope im wrong, but the implications of him dying are so interesting i had to talk ab it! 🥰❤️
"dead" doesn't mean dead :P
Lucifer is Seraphine and this kind of angels is one of most powerfull. This high ranking angel could be defeated be another similar angel like Sera.
Not necessarily. Just because he has three wings doesn't mean he is a Seraphim. Viv confirmed that Lucifer was the second most powerful character in the universe only to God.
@@MuricaFkYeah Only Seraphim has three wing.
@@adriankuban2904 But Lucifer was not confirmed to be a seraphim in this show and biblically he is not a Seraphim. Maybe she just put three wings on him to show intimidation.
@@MuricaFkYeah he's a seraphim in the show he has 6 wings (no other angels have that many) even his throne is a seraphim. He probably been changed to one because how different cherubs are in the show
doesn't really matter if he is one or not but it IS confirmed that he is invulnerable to angelic weapons and can only be smited by more powerful beings (no one that will actually attend the extermination)@@MuricaFkYeah
The king of hell is not dying this easy bruh💀
I will only accepted if it's from a higher being, no way he's dying by an Exorcist or Adam
maybe him being fallen has an effect that we don't know of yet
@@crossedoutpebz maybe
Fr bro...
I believe Vivzie confirmed that he is invulnerable to angelic weapons, he can not just be killed by a random exorcist or Adam@@crossedoutpebz
Nobody has mentioned Nifty. I think it would be funny if she died sine in Husk's words 'you don't even want to know what her deal is.' so the idea of her dying with all her secrets is kind of funny in a cruel way
I don't think anything will happen to Lucifer. He's too powerful. But if it does, that'd suck. Even for the short appearance he's had on the show, his characterization has been perfect. He's my fav 😭
Thrilled for Rosie's spotlight and the climax! I'm curious about Charlie's transition into a badass princess; it's pretty safe to assume she's going to recruit a cannibal army to protect her people... that's just pure character development. But pretty sure that hell will be left underpopulated after the war in any case, no one can stop a havoc in all 9 circles. Let's enjoy the finale.
Rosie slayed episode 7 & 8 honestly. One of my new favorite characters
I doubt it's Lucifer that's going to die simply because that would shake things up too much for Helluva Boss, regardless of if the two are set around the same time or not. Since HB doesn't take place in Pentagram City, the exterminations and if they continue or not doesn't affect I.M.P. much at all, but a shake up like Lucifer dying would absolutely, given that Asmodeus is a Sin and a prominent character.
Im calling it, sir pentious dies😭
you're not gonna be happy with what just leaked😂
Seeing this after the finale when Lucifer DOESN'T die and instead pentious dies is so funny to me.
If Alastor does indeed have some goals or agenda that specifically requires Charlie, then what better way to further worm his way into her confidence then to give her this vital and very important bit of information right now in this harrowing hour? Now some might think this would be the time for him to say "Let's make a deal~" but honestly I don't think so, because I personally think it would actually work even more in his favor to have Charlie's full confidence and faith, and info like this given to her in her most desperate moment with 'no strings attached' would pretty much make him one of her favorite and most trusted people... and that likely is very much what he wants.
And, having gained this level of trust with her, and having garnered her gratefulness, it would make actually striking a deal with her later easier by tugging a bit more at her heartstrings. "Why my dear, haven't you learned that you can trust me by now? After all, if I'd wanted anything _nefarious_ with you, I had the perfect chance back during the extermination, didn't I~?"
NOOOOO LUCIFER IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER NO KILL SIR PENTIOS RULE HIM INTO THE FLAMES OF DEATH I DONT CARE LUCIFER WILL NOT DIE ON MY WATCH!
Nooo Luci has become one of my favourites 😭😭
My theory is that Alastor knows how powerful Charlie could become and after seeing the new episodes I’m positive that he knows staying by her side will keep him winning. There’s a goal but I also kinda think he’s getting comfortable with them
In the Q&A they clearly stated that Angeldust fans could rest easily.
thank god
Sorry i was late to the upload 😢
Hope you reach 10k soon
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This would be cool but even as a "Fallen" the seraphim are still worried about the idea of Lucifer getting involved. I think he's way too powerful to be damaged by anyone else is Hazbin/Helluva except for like "god"
No. No, they can't take him away so early. NO.
i don't want it either😭😭😭 buuuuut it doesn't necessarily mean that has to be the last time we see him! we could see more of his backstory and stuff through flashbacks and stuff!❤️❤️❤️
@@crossedoutpebz Well well well. Who was right in the end? Hmmmm?
Thanks now you got me nervous for this finale XD
that's why i'm here😊❤️❤️❤️
Charlie wasn't first children of Lilith and Lucifer but they all born death.
LadySygerrik
Some stories of Lilith have her cursed with the inability to have children, with all of hers being either born dead or dying shortly after being born. It could be Charlie isn't their first child, just the first one to survive.
Valentino simp
If we learned anything from HB, it's that Viv love morbid backstories soooo
I will absolutely riot if they kill off Luci so early.
In Recent livestream: Viv and cast has confirmed Angel, Husk, Alastor won’t die. Only one character will die.
Lucifer was a seraphim, he'd need an insane nerf to die to someone as lowly as Adam. Also Lilith and Charlie gain their power through Lucifer. His death would basically kill any plot line of "Charlie awakening her power"
Well he knows they can be killed, he prolly thinks that.
If we go the route of many cartoons/anime before, usually it's the first main villain that gets killed off in first season, setting the series up for the next, stronger, villain.
Adam getting killed by Hell's forces would set up for a stronger force from Heaven than the 'normal strikeforce' that's sent yearly.
Love the videos cant wait for tonight
None of the exorcists can kill Lucifer. Sara or the other Seraphim would have to come down and personally "smite" him.
It's a shame that Hazbin and Helluva can’t really crossover for legal reasons, if Lucifer were to die the consequences would be outrageous. He's a recluse but he's kinda this unseen influence even if unintentionally- the apple and snake imagery mostly shown throughout hell, the circus imagery inspired by him, if he were to die hell would basically fall apart, the sins would revolt and maybe start wars. Hell is already an anarchy but I always get the vibe that Lucifer is sort of like the ‘God’ of hell, unseen and unknown but not to be messed with, his death would spell trouble. I mean hell is filled with power hungry psychos who would do anything to get power, and yet Lucifer has been the uncontested ruler since it's foundation- no-one has been able to beat him and I don't see that changing.
Heaven would definitely get involved too, Lucifer is a seraphim and probably one of the former elder angels, his death would spell a lot of implications and trouble for them too.
Viv confirmed that Angel is not the one dying, burt she said it was obvious who it is. I think its either Vaggie or Sir Pentious
Isn't it impossible for angels to be killed by angelic weapons tho? The Exorcists use angelic weapons.
lucifer is fallen, we don't know the effects of that
@@crossedoutpebz Lucifer is Seraphine and this kind of angels is one of most powerfull. This high ranking angel could be defeated be another similar angel like Sera.
@@crossedoutpebzCharlie wasn't first children of Lilith and Lucifer but they all born death.
LadySygerrik
Some stories of Lilith have her cursed with the inability to have children, with all of hers being either born dead or dying shortly after being born. It could be Charlie isn't their first child, just the first one to survive.
Valentino simp
If we learned anything from HB, it's that Viv love morbid backstories soooo
@@crossedoutpebzAlastor's Wendigo form is best thing on this show my favorite Asexual character.
I love Lilith and Lucifer story something of this is even in demonology.
Charlie and Vaggie are best couple.
Vivziepop is using 7th Deadly Sins with this source of information material.
So they are Fallen Angels which followed Lucifer down. Maybe....?
Lucifer (Fallen Angel of Pride), Satan (Devil of Wrath), Leviathan (Dragon of Envy), Asmodeus (Nephil of Lust), Mammon (Demon of Greed), Belphegor (Demon of Sloth), Beelzebub (Fallen Angel of Gluttony)
Just like that in her hell you have 7th rings which are one under another and pride ring is on top has 9 cycles 1. Pentagram city, 2.Imp city; ...
@@adriankuban2904 I highly doubt Lucifer is a Seraphim. Just because he has three wings doesn't mean anything. Biblically, he has nothing to do with the Seraphim. Plus, Sera wouldn't be able to kill him, as he was confirmed to be the second most powerful being next to God himself.
Well, I called it a few days ago. I wasn't sure if anybody was going to go down the rabbit hole that I went down but I'm glad somebody did. I have no following and I don't really have a way to record or do anything so you know best I can do is you share my comment. Makes me happy to know that somebody else drew the same conclusion that I did. I do believe Lucifer is going to die and that is going to throw Charlie into the leader that I know she can be.
Lucifer can't die, at least not in the way this is set up, he is invulnerable to angelic weapons and can only be smited by a being of higher power than him, and neither Adam or the exorcists weild that kind of power so unless the elders of Heaven join the battle, there ain't no way he will die
@@andreitv9921 narratively it has to happen. If Charlie is going to become the leader of hell that we all know that she can be she's going to have to suffer some sort of loss now since Lucifer is technically the head of hell and the king of hell he would have to fall in order for Charlie to assent and at that point I do believe Lilith would come back to help Charlie rule hell.
@@xellos305 I never said that he can't die, it just... won't be this season, not with the way it's currently set up. An extermination? NO ONE in that army is capable of even touching Lucifer, nevermind kill him. So unless the freaking elders are attending this extermination, it's just...not believable, it's pure bullshit and a complete disregard for the lore that has been built for 4 years. Charlie ruling Hell is like a show finale kind of thing imo, not season 1 finale, and even then, who's to say she's going to rule Hell? For all we know, She could very well become the ruler of Heaven, but that's for when the show will come to a conclusion, not season 1
@@andreitv9921 He's going to die protecting Charlie. Mark my words.
@@xellos305 yeah...about that...
Just watched episode 7 and 8, damn was it a roller coaster
Oh man Lucifer can't die after that "More than Anything" song. Lucifer can only be killed by a angel of higher rank so...mmmmmaybe Adam?
Viv's already mentioned she wants the story to work out as a trilogy as it suit the way she wants to tell it pretty well.
I think Season 2's villains are more likely to be the V's as a whole followed up by Roo in Season 3. I dont mention Lilith here as I don't think she'll wind up being a Villian, important yes, likely with some lore shattering reveal, but I don't see her becoming a series long villain like Adam is.
Everything seen so far reminds me of Diablo 3 plot.
Tyrael fighting Imperius to save the innocent ones - Emily fighting Sera to save the innocent ones
Imperius changed his opinion about Nephalem after he defeated Diablo - Sera changing her opinion about Charlie after she saved a soul
Imperius helped Nephalem to defeat Maltael before disapearing - Seria helped Charlie to defeat Roo before disapearing
Oh boy, the final was nuts.
in a live stream that the cast did a long ago they said lucifer cant die to the angelic weapons only from an angel of higher ranking than himself with him being a high ranking angel himself with him possible being hinted at to being a seraph don't think that's going to happen but good video keep it up
Honestly I’d love if Alastor doesn’t tell her. And tries to use it at leverage against her for a deal. Now we’re all thinking Charlie will take the deal. But I would love if she got mad at Alastor. He’s been there for months. They’ve grown to be a family. Yet Alastor still is only thinking of himself not the thousands of lives he could save. And knowing he’s known this information for sometime could enrage Charlie. I would love to see Charlie show Alastor that she is more powerful than him and that actually scares him. Causing his infamous grin to disappear as fear takes over. Especially if the Lilith theory is correct and he’s there to protect her. It could show the chains that he has like with Husk. It would be a very life shattering moment for Alastor. Not only to see Charlie being stronger than him, but to see the chains that actually hold him making him powerless. That would be a character development from Alastor that I’d love to see.
Hey, hey, the resson they didn't kill him was because he is my emotional support animal
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/pf /nsrs
I have a bet it’s niffy or the snake dude as when Lucifer and AL was fighting u can see AL say the family you chose and niffy ain’t there
viv confirmed we would get into alastor and niftys relationship more so it won't be her❤️❤️ (hopefully)
@@crossedoutpebz I bet it’s mimzy
I know you're probably right but I really hope you're not right. I'd want it to be anyone else
Haven't watched the video, but if this is about the "cast dying" then it was confirmed in a leaked song to be alastor who dies
alastor doesn't die but i won't spoil who does for you
@@crossedoutpebz I know who it was. But the reason I said that was because at the time he faked his death?💀so I js assumed he was the one who dies lmao
I Love Lucifer too much for him to die, the story just wouldn't be the same without him, also I don't think any of the angels have the power to even harm lucifer, adam & his army is far too weak not to mention only a being of higher ranking can hurt him, maybe sarah is the only angel who can actually harm him. OHH Or even the Elders
i was thinking vaggie
Okay how the fuck can alastor predict lucifer would die
WAIT WHAT IF IT'S VAGGIE
Even tho Lucifer didn't died in season 1 but I do think He will die in the end, we all know that Lucifer and Charlie are immortal so Charlie being the daughter of an immortal king is just the princess of hell but through out the series we see people keep saying that Charlie is the aire to the throne I don't think that would like be even possible if the person on the throne is immortal unless they are planning on killing him And we all how much vivzipop pays attention to this type of small details.
I think he will die and to prove heaven and Charlie become the queen of hell and work with heaven (i think smt will also happens to sera and emily will take the charge) to keep the sinner that belongs to the hell in hell (totally not talking about valentino) and send the redeemed soul to heaven in order keep the balance.
I know something you dont know........ about who dies
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Only a angel higher rank could kill Lucifer so Adam is out of the question so Lucifer will not die as a matter of fact I’m sure he’ll show up be a badass in the last minute if Charlie and her crew are getting wrecked by Adam and his angels
i hope he doesn't die honestly
@@crossedoutpebz I’m sure he won’t he’s got a lot potential besides he’s one of the seven princes I’m sure he has a role for helluva boss since it is in the same universe
Dark. Lucifer!!! 😭😭😭
That dont make sense because theres a trading card of upgraded hotel so my theory is the hotel gets destroyed in epizode 8 and in serie 2 he will repair and upgrade hotel and there was battle card with serphant so i think seprhant die ( bdv thats nots realy my theory i just find it on youtube and i think it can happen for 90 % because what can be more funnier and devastating then character that is cry baby and diee few epizodes after he joined hotel ? )
I don’t think angels can descend to hell cause I doubt there hasn’t been a angel killed with a non angel weapon but then that angel would respawn into heaven and we also haven’t seen the excorsiste who died to carmilla be a sinner
I think vaggie is actually gonna die, and I think Adam is the one that kills her that or vivzie is being a dork and is gonna kill off the egg boys or angels pet pig thing.
It could also be nifty, i could see her trying to kill adam and adam just obliterating her
I love how these comments age 😂
I don't know why, but I want Adam and Alastor to meet one another and just see where things go from there lol
Imma be so mad if Lucifer dies 😭
no only alasto will fake his dead
On twitter today she's been liking tweets about the main cast not dying in the first season, so I expect it will be a lesser character.
In my opinion it could be Lucifer or Sir Pentius. You've already said everything about Lucifer. As for the Sir Pentius I noticed in episode 5 that he was the only one who cried two times when Charlie talked to her dad. What if Lucifer would be in danger and Pentius will sacrifice himself to let Charlie stay with her dad? For everything she did for him. But yet again I recall that line from More than anything about starting all over again and not being pulled apart again... this seems like a red flag...
Before I saw this I thought that he would die to
i doubt they would kill lucifer season 1 mabye end of season2 or season 3
Nah, NAH! We just met him!
Now, my logical, side, speaking, it is possible that no one dies but instead have a near death experience that causes Charlie to snap to defend them because she doesn’t want any of them to die and suffer. It is highly likely might be Lucifer might die but why I think he won’t is because 1. We just met him, 2. His relationship with Charlie just started to be mended so there should be more father, daughter, moments, and 3. With the whole controversy with Lilith, I believe Lucifer would still need to be alive to tell his side of the story. And why I don’t think they’re gonna they might talk about Lilith in the next episode is because the focus is on the war. Plus, it would be cool to see some angel with a shotgun type scenario.
Now for how the season might end, the death could be that one of the main Angels, or someone getting cast out of heaven like Adam and/or we get to see a clip of Lilith or Alastor, talking to someone. I don’t really have any evidence to back this up other than it would be a horrible cliffhanger
Another mini theory I have is the reason why Lilith might have taken Charlie away from her father. The reason could be, because she was an independent or headstrong woman as was told in the beginning of the series, she might’ve wanted Charlie to grow up as an independent woman, not relying on her father. Because she saw how much Lucifer adored and doted Charlie, that can be the driving motivation to move away if that was the case. Dumb but still a possibility. Maybe that’s why she tried to prevent a relationship between her and her father as she grew up. Or maybe it can be because of Lucifer’s stories, She doesn’t want Charlie to have dreams about going against heaven, but instead focus on growing hell.
Just to ramble, I think it would be cool, seeing some of the sinners use their powers together to fight off the angels. Like imagine Alastor using his tentacle things to throw Charlie in the air, or even rocks at the angels or bombs! Amazing Bossfight
Lucifer can just single handedly defeat the whole army since he can not be harmed by angelic weapons, so unless the sheraphims go down there, nothing will happen to Luci, not in season 1 at least
I like your theory, but the issue with it is that Lucifer cannot be killed easily at all, lore-wise. He would need to be smitten by quite a high-ranking angel, like Sera maybe, to kill him. So, while it is a nice theory, I don’t think they’ll force Sera into the extermination scene any time soon. Lucifer will probably survive for another season.
Isn’t Charlie technically a nephalem. A child of an angel (Lucifer) and a demon (Lilith)
Aren't they both technically demons?
@@Axel_Kasai he still has his angelic abilities and wings. He’s just an angel not welcome in heaven anymore
Alastor's Wendigo form is best thing on this show my favorite Asexual character.
I love Lilith and Lucifer story something of this is even in demonology.
Charlie and Vaggie are best couple.
Vivziepop is using 7th Deadly Sins with this source of information material.
So they are Fallen Angels which followed Lucifer down. Maybe....?
Lucifer (Fallen Angel of Pride), Satan (Devil of Wrath), Leviathan (Dragon of Envy), Asmodeus (Nephil of Lust), Mammon (Demon of Greed), Belphegor (Demon of Sloth), Beelzebub (Fallen Angel of Gluttony)
Just like that in her hell you have 7th rings which are one under another and pride ring is on top has 9 cycles 1. Pentagram city, 2.Imp city; ...
Yes
He won't die. If he does it is just lazy writing.
what makes you think that someone will die in season 1?
this video you legit just came up with the idea that someone will die and out of nowhere you decided that lucifer would be a good candidate,
and trust me, if someone does indeed die in season 1, leakers would have already leaked it
no i dont think they would just kill someone on season 1, and even if they do, we already know that sinners can "pull themselves together" as velvette says on episode 2.
Lucifer is a king of hell how's he gonna die
No offense but I believe this is wrong because vibzie pop herself confirm that Lucifer being a fallen angel can only be killed by an Angel of a higher ranking than him smiting him Adam isn't a higher rank than Lucifer
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Ok i am in feb 1st rn AND THEY DIDNT RELEASE THE EPISODES YET!
Ok they just launched it lol bc they werent theyre a hour ago (its 6:44)
Oops i just saw my time thing AND IT HIGHLIGHTED IT LOL
Nifty
umm noooooo
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Killing off Lucifer is lazy writing tbh.