Which would you pick? Athena or Selectorized Lat Pull Down? Rep Fitness Athena: www.repfitness.com/#5f3b28f9517b0 Rep Fitness Selectorized Pull Down: www.repfitness.com/#5f3b28f9517b0
When worlds collide! Love both of y’all! I’m rockin with the selectorized high low stack. That 1:1 ratio entirely selected through the pin but heavy is tantalizing. Great video you two!
For an ABSOLUTE UNIT like you, you may need that 1:1 ratio to get the weight stack heavy enough to meet your needs. For mere mortals like me, the Athena is going to exceed my lifting limits.
@@NoFate247 I’ve got a ton of moving parts today, (in fact, I just happen to see this, as I was heading upstairs after training) but I’ll try to set aside some time to watch the whole thing after I finish editing some stuff for my channel and running a couple of errands!
Marcus sold me on it, just placed my order for the 300 pound selectorized for my PR5000. Next year I’ll probably get the Athena if I can justify it. Right now just don’t have a use for a functional trainer but it would make my rack look more badass 😂
The one is Rep Fitness Ares, which is both. It is less money than getting two Athenas and the sectorized lat pulldown. I love mine and it does not interfere with rear weight plate storage. It also has an effective 310 pound lat pulldown and low row with the weight stack upgrade and 155 effective weight per side.
@@path4061 I squat off the inside of the front uprights with no issues. I can use my safety squatter arms to do incline bench off the front of the rack. I do flat benching inside the rack without any issues. My rack front crossmembers are 30” deep. Ares is actually slightly behind the middle uprights.
That has been my response to those who ask for it all. Ares is truly the best of both worlds and a great option. If I had to do it again from scratch, that would be the way I go.
Coop’s got a video coming out and rumor is Athena + LLR he feels is better than Ares. I know many complain about the height of the low row on the ares.
I think the Athena is the better option of the two because your biggest cons for pulldowns (the angle of pull and not being able to secure yourself down) could be simply mitigated by combining both stacks and sitting between the uprights. You could use something like the Darko Lifting Longy Bar or even something like the double hook straight bar from Bells of Steel to connect both pulleys, then use leg rollers on the front uprights to secure yourself down like you would doing pulldowns on an Ares. Plus, combing the two stacks would allow you to go heavier without having to use a gym pin/bands as much. Clear winner imo
@@NoFate247 Yessir. Just a 4 post Athena/half rack set up for now given the small space I have available right now lol but I plan to eventually buy a couple more uprights for a 6 post once I have the real estate. Also holding out for the Adonis now, which is another reason why I chose the Athena over the Ares or a pulldown/low row. But to be fair, the Adonis hadn't been announced when this video dropped 😅
@@NoFate247 not at all I got the 310 stack an when it says your lifting that weight your lifting that weight. I still have to figure out how to do my leg extensions though
Most people aren’t pulling 310 for sets. It actually adds a lot of versatility. For example I use the belt squat in conjunction with regular squats to keep a bulk concentrated in my legs n less weight on my spine
Having the functional trainer and lat and row attachment is a game changer for sure. The only thing I don’t like is the banana clip. The other advantage is attaching the lower cables to your iso arms for additional exercises
You don't. Rear stabalizer is for the lat pull down but you need the 2.0 version to use it with the Athena. But if you just have the Athena you don't need a rbs
Hi, I just got a Rep Fitness PR4000 30+16 and tried incline and shoulder for first time today. I'm 6'4 and 260lb and not the widest guy but I felt my elbows hitting the safeties. I'm not sure I like it. I've heard others like to bench and shoulder outside the rack with spotter arms and curious your opinion? At my gym I never used spotters for bench and shoulder so not sure why I am here. I like the DC training method which is 8-10 reps rest 25 secs 4-6 reps rest and 1-3. Since weight isn't near 1 rep max not sure I need all the safeties never used them before.
Always use safeties, regardless of the weight. You never know when something might blow out and you don't want that weight crashing down on you. As far as hitting your elbows, that's surprising, but you are probably wider than you give yourself credit for. Are you placing the safeties correctly and which safeties do you have? You can workout outside your power rack with safeties arms but I'd always try to stay inside when possible. Also, if you used my link to buy your PR let me know so I can send you a thank you gift.
@locsmiths truth is, if I had the space I would get the biggest possible. When you go bigger you pay a bit more up getting but not by much and you have so much more space to operate and such
My biggest issue with the Athena is really the price vs. the additional functionality it brings. When you think about it, chest flys are really the only great exercise that you can do with the Athena that you can't do with the Lat Pulldown/Low Row. Are chest flys really worth the extra $1000ish? I don't think they are.
You will find lateral raises a bit of a problem too on the pull down low row. Also the lat pull down will be 6-9 inches behind your uprights where as the athena fits inside your uprights. I think it comes down to what kind of lifting you predominately do.Don't think there is one answer for everyone.
Jonathan has the PR-4000. Fray’s savage series is 1” holes. Straydog makes both 5/8” and 1” dual roller that attaches to the upright that holds your legs down
Yeah go pr4000 and athena. If you're going to do lat attachment and athena, might just as well go ares IMO. Let me know if you use my code so I can send you a thank you gift
I definitely want to be able to do lat pulldowns/low rows. Ares is an option but I am liking the Athena for a few different reasons. Yes please send code I am buying this weekend after I decide.
I see what your saying now...if I do both Athena and rear lat/row skip both and get Ares cause it's all in one. That actually makes sense. I am leaning Athena so I can keep rear of rack empty and Athena I can still do lat pulldowns/low rows.
Hello Jonathan, I spoke with Marcus earlier from twisted barbell and ask him if he was able to do front and side lateral raises with his low row and he said no. Would you be able to tell if they are possible to do with athena side Mount setup?
Can the selectorized lat pull down attacent be used on a 4 post pr5000 16" rack? They are selling me a 16" 4 post pr5000 with a pair of sorinex jcups but no pull up bar for $600 but is like 4 hours away.
@@NoFate247 ty for the asnwer... I have watched so many reviews for the Athena and its all on the pull down feature. I am being basic and wondering if you can still squat on it lol
@@NoFate247 Wanted your advice on Athena double plate loaded sides and adding plate loaded lat pulldown attachment OR Athena 1 side stacks and other nothing with a plate loaded lat pull down. I am trying to be budget friendly hehe
@NoFate247 bro I been really thinking about getting ares and just selling my selectorized lat pull down, my functional trainer and my titan foldable x3 rack which I ne er fold anyways. Don't know if I will like everything in one rack though🙄 but ares looks nice So iam debating pretty much between the pr4000 with selectorized lat pull down attachment and keeping my FT or ares. U wanna be able to add abully glider to make my own belt squat and replicate rhino:) I don't think I will be able to with ares. Don't like their belt squat:(.
@NoFate247 that's a good idea. What's the advantage of having the tall pr4000 as opposed as the 80"? Also wouldn't be better to get the pr5000 instead of pr4000?
@@futbol1972 Pr5000 is great and a tad more stable and might offer better astetics. But it isn't going to work "better" than the 4000 and the steel thickness is the same, and so are the colors. But 4000 is less money and so are the attachments. Tall power rack gives you more options and more height for attachements. Also makes it easier to do lat pull downs on the athena or ares.
What about the best of both? Could you put the lat/low-row on a 6-post 4000, and add an Athena stack to one side … plus that provides the ability for two to use cables at the same time?
Which would you pick? Athena or Selectorized Lat Pull Down?
Rep Fitness Athena: www.repfitness.com/#5f3b28f9517b0
Rep Fitness Selectorized Pull Down: www.repfitness.com/#5f3b28f9517b0
Which is the best option for your lifting style and home gym?
Rep Fitness: www.repfitness.com/#5f3b28f9517b0
Awesome video my friend; I think it came out great! Thanks for all of your hard work putting it together.
This one was a blast! Appreciate all the work you did too and thanks for letting me host it on my channel.
Love the collaboration two of my fav channels, much success to the both of you
@@darrellb4305 Thanks Darrell
Great video guys
Thanks! Came out a lot cleaner than I Thought. Appreciate you checking in
Thanks big Brandon!
The crossover we wanted, but didn’t realize we needed
Super Hero Team UP! Need to form a special league :)
😂Thanks!
When worlds collide! Love both of y’all! I’m rockin with the selectorized high low stack. That 1:1 ratio entirely selected through the pin but heavy is tantalizing. Great video you two!
For an ABSOLUTE UNIT like you, you may need that 1:1 ratio to get the weight stack heavy enough to meet your needs. For mere mortals like me, the Athena is going to exceed my lifting limits.
Love ya too, brother Phil! the 1:1 ratio is great with the LLR and you would want the extra 100 lbs.
How did I miss this?!! When worlds collide! I agree 100%
Hearing Marcus say “Checking In” was GREAT ❤
He's trying to steal my tag line! LOL I need to copyright that, like TACO Tuesday :)
@@NoFate247 It's a good tag line and glad it played out well.
I really thought I was already subscribed to you! My bad! It’s fixed now! Love the content!
Another subscriber on the board! My man! Now I just need you watching all the way to the end for the little easter eggs I've been tossing in :)
@@NoFate247 I’ve got a ton of moving parts today, (in fact, I just happen to see this, as I was heading upstairs after training) but I’ll try to set aside some time to watch the whole thing after I finish editing some stuff for my channel and running a couple of errands!
@@GarageGymLifeMedia No worries! I know that feeling.
Marcus sold me on it, just placed my order for the 300 pound selectorized for my PR5000. Next year I’ll probably get the Athena if I can justify it. Right now just don’t have a use for a functional trainer but it would make my rack look more badass 😂
Awesome! If you used my link let me know so I can send you a thank you gift Nofate247@gmail.com 🙏
You don’t need a 6 post rack for the Athena ! You can build a 4 post pr5000 Athena setup and add the Selectorized lat low row to the setup.
You are correct I didn't realize for the 5000 they had a 4 post option.
For the PR-4000 you do
@@localcavalry2670 I know it’s 6 for a 4000 but for the PR5000 you can do 4 post.
@@rambojohn7118 yea 5000 has 4 rack option and put a video explaining why on my Instagram
Both seem like great options, just really depends on the training style and budget. Great video!!
Thanks for watching it was a blast to film
The one is Rep Fitness Ares, which is both. It is less money than getting two Athenas and the sectorized lat pulldown. I love mine and it does not interfere with rear weight plate storage. It also has an effective 310 pound lat pulldown and low row with the weight stack upgrade and 155 effective weight per side.
Yes also more money as you would expect
@@NoFate247 It is less money than two Athenas and the sectorized lat pulldown.
@@path4061 I squat off the inside of the front uprights with no issues. I can use my safety squatter arms to do incline bench off the front of the rack. I do flat benching inside the rack without any issues. My rack front crossmembers are 30” deep. Ares is actually slightly behind the middle uprights.
That has been my response to those who ask for it all. Ares is truly the best of both worlds and a great option. If I had to do it again from scratch, that would be the way I go.
Coop’s got a video coming out and rumor is Athena + LLR he feels is better than Ares. I know many complain about the height of the low row on the ares.
This one must've slipped by me! Love the collab! Two great channels with awesome content 👏
It was really fun to put together
Excellent collab!
This was a real fun one to put together
Great video guys! Tough decision, but I think a single stack is where I will start.
You know I like that option, saves you the most money, gives you the most versatility for you $ and you can easily upgrade
Checking in! Ready to see the Athena hype!!
Hope you caught your cameo!
@@NoFate247 HAHAHAHA that was great 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Maybe I’ll be invited once I get rep and toss the titan rack 😂
@@LukesGarageGym you are always welcome bud! I miss your content. We need two videos a week from you minimum
@@NoFate247 I’m hoping to get back to that point soon!
Love to see the collaboration
Thanks Dan
You could always do like me and buy the dual Athena and add the lat and low row so you have it all in one.
Absolutely that's an option! Did you buy them all at once or one after the other
Thanks I really needed this video!
Thanks for watching and subscribing 👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
Helpful video! Thank you. It’s clearly time for headband guy to buy a few more tiny 19inch monitors to add to his desktop in the background.
Facts. ..... Already in the works
I think the Athena is the better option of the two because your biggest cons for pulldowns (the angle of pull and not being able to secure yourself down) could be simply mitigated by combining both stacks and sitting between the uprights. You could use something like the Darko Lifting Longy Bar or even something like the double hook straight bar from Bells of Steel to connect both pulleys, then use leg rollers on the front uprights to secure yourself down like you would doing pulldowns on an Ares. Plus, combing the two stacks would allow you to go heavier without having to use a gym pin/bands as much. Clear winner imo
I agree but everyone has different expectations and lifting "wants". Do you have the Athena?
@@NoFate247 Yessir. Just a 4 post Athena/half rack set up for now given the small space I have available right now lol but I plan to eventually buy a couple more uprights for a 6 post once I have the real estate. Also holding out for the Adonis now, which is another reason why I chose the Athena over the Ares or a pulldown/low row. But to be fair, the Adonis hadn't been announced when this video dropped 😅
I went with the ares upgraded an love it. Very versatile and the limit is your imagination
If you have the money I think the ares is the way. Do you find the weight limiting at all?
@@NoFate247 not at all I got the 310 stack an when it says your lifting that weight your lifting that weight. I still have to figure out how to do my leg extensions though
Most people aren’t pulling 310 for sets. It actually adds a lot of versatility. For example I use the belt squat in conjunction with regular squats to keep a bulk concentrated in my legs n less weight on my spine
@@hyg71886 yeah love belt squats, got to lift smarter sometimes
@@hyg71886 Check out my last Meet Prep training Vlog for a quick demo on how I do Leg Extensions with the LLR (could/should work the same for Ares).
Good team up guys tango and Cash
Yes!!! Chip and dale
Thanks big guy!
I’m pretty sure I get a little credit for setting up this new found friendship 😂. I’m team lat/low row all the way.
You get all the credit! Who should I collaborate with first
LOL and thanks Nick - score another for LLR
I paid the extra money and got the Ares on my 6 post 5000 rack. I don’t regret it. I never considered the Athena because the Ares had more features.
If you have the money the ares is the best bet from a space and function perspective.
Having the functional trainer and lat and row attachment is a game changer for sure. The only thing I don’t like is the banana clip. The other advantage is attaching the lower cables to your iso arms for additional exercises
Great video!! 🔥 , have the plate loaded lat pull-down but was not aware I needed the 2.0 rear base stabilizer for the Athena 🤦🏽♂️
You don't. Rear stabalizer is for the lat pull down but you need the 2.0 version to use it with the Athena. But if you just have the Athena you don't need a rbs
Get both!
That's an option but the ares might be better option if you were going to buy both
Hi, I just got a Rep Fitness PR4000 30+16 and tried incline and shoulder for first time today. I'm 6'4 and 260lb and not the widest guy but I felt my elbows hitting the safeties. I'm not sure I like it. I've heard others like to bench and shoulder outside the rack with spotter arms and curious your opinion? At my gym I never used spotters for bench and shoulder so not sure why I am here. I like the DC training method which is 8-10 reps rest 25 secs 4-6 reps rest and 1-3. Since weight isn't near 1 rep max not sure I need all the safeties never used them before.
Always use safeties, regardless of the weight. You never know when something might blow out and you don't want that weight crashing down on you. As far as hitting your elbows, that's surprising, but you are probably wider than you give yourself credit for. Are you placing the safeties correctly and which safeties do you have? You can workout outside your power rack with safeties arms but I'd always try to stay inside when possible. Also, if you used my link to buy your PR let me know so I can send you a thank you gift.
Great info! I'm 6'3'' 240 myself. If you could do it over again do you think the 41+16 option would fit you fine - space permitting? Thanks!
@locsmiths truth is, if I had the space I would get the biggest possible. When you go bigger you pay a bit more up getting but not by much and you have so much more space to operate and such
Really just need one side but looks good with both sides stacked lol
You can always get one and get second later on
great colab!
Who should I collab with next?
@@NoFate247 more Gluck?
@@ChaosStorm24 I'm game if i'm not too low on the totem pole for him
Seriouly badass intro brob😄
Thanks for watching! Tried to nail the intri
My biggest issue with the Athena is really the price vs. the additional functionality it brings. When you think about it, chest flys are really the only great exercise that you can do with the Athena that you can't do with the Lat Pulldown/Low Row. Are chest flys really worth the extra $1000ish? I don't think they are.
You will find lateral raises a bit of a problem too on the pull down low row. Also the lat pull down will be 6-9 inches behind your uprights where as the athena fits inside your uprights. I think it comes down to what kind of lifting you predominately do.Don't think there is one answer for everyone.
awesome!!! great info
Thanks for watching and subscribing appreciate it
So Fray Fitness actually has a lat pulldown knew brace attachment that should fit on this rack. That way you could do lat pulldown with no problems
I need to look into that one
@@NoFate247 yeah I've been debating on getting it but haven't seen any reviews on it
Jonathan has the PR-4000. Fray’s savage series is 1” holes. Straydog makes both 5/8” and 1” dual roller that attaches to the upright that holds your legs down
Have a link on that Fray Fitness piece? Couldn’t find anything on their site.
@@localcavalry2670 I need to look into that. Thanks!
what size GymPin do you get to add plates to the selectorized weights for the Athena? Thanks so much
5/8th inch
Around 3:00 he says that Athena requires 6 posts but that’s not true. You can put it on a 4 post rack.
I don't see that option on their website. I know the Ares you can do 4 post. Maybe i'm missing it.
@@NoFate247 it’s only for PR5000
OHHHH! OK, Thank you for pointing that out.
@@BrandonSchwartz1 Thanks for the helpful clarification Brandon!
with the lat low row can you squat with SSB facing the weight stack? Is there enough clearance for the sub handles? specifically elitefts ssb. thanks
I use the rep ssb and no issues facing the weight stack with clearance
I have pr400p + athena + rear lat attachment in cart and can't decide. I think I can get away with just pr4000 and athena???
Yeah go pr4000 and athena. If you're going to do lat attachment and athena, might just as well go ares IMO. Let me know if you use my code so I can send you a thank you gift
I definitely want to be able to do lat pulldowns/low rows. Ares is an option but I am liking the Athena for a few different reasons. Yes please send code I am buying this weekend after I decide.
I see what your saying now...if I do both Athena and rear lat/row skip both and get Ares cause it's all in one. That actually makes sense.
I am leaning Athena so I can keep rear of rack empty and Athena I can still do lat pulldowns/low rows.
Hello Jonathan, I spoke with Marcus earlier from twisted barbell and ask him if he was able to do front and side lateral raises with his low row and he said no. Would you be able to tell if they are possible to do with athena side Mount setup?
Yeah with the Athena you can do both those exercises. You can do every functional training exercises with the Athena
@@NoFate247 Awesome thanks for getting back to me. Keep up the great videos and all the info. Appreciate it
@@michaeltucci2746 thanks for watching 🙏
Can the selectorized lat pull down attacent be used on a 4 post pr5000 16" rack?
They are selling me a 16" 4 post pr5000 with a pair of sorinex jcups but no pull up bar for $600 but is like 4 hours away.
Great deal but man that's a big drive. To answer your question. Yes it can.
@@NoFate247 I can probably offer him $500 too
Yeah for the 8 hours of driving
This might be a dumb question but can you do a standard barbell squat on that athena?
Yes no problem front or back of rack
@@NoFate247 ty for the asnwer... I have watched so many reviews for the Athena and its all on the pull down feature. I am being basic and wondering if you can still squat on it lol
@@NoFate247 Wanted your advice on Athena double plate loaded sides and adding plate loaded lat pulldown attachment OR Athena 1 side stacks and other nothing with a plate loaded lat pull down. I am trying to be budget friendly hehe
Only dumb question is one not asked
How about the Aries?
That's a great option too but much higher expense. If you have the money then you can go with the Ares
best of both worlds if you've got the budget.
This mFKA is a Cyborg!
Absolutely, like van damns early work
Do u know if I will have full range of motion on lat pull down attachment on the pr5000?
Yes
@NoFate247 bro I been really thinking about getting ares and just selling my selectorized lat pull down, my functional trainer and my titan foldable x3 rack which I ne er fold anyways. Don't know if I will like everything in one rack though🙄 but ares looks nice
So iam debating pretty much between the pr4000 with selectorized lat pull down attachment and keeping my FT or ares. U wanna be able to add abully glider to make my own belt squat and replicate rhino:) I don't think I will be able to with ares. Don't like their belt squat:(.
@@futbol1972 Go Athena and keep the selectorized Lat Pull down, can you get the 90 inch PR4000 (Tall Boy)
@NoFate247 that's a good idea. What's the advantage of having the tall pr4000 as opposed as the 80"? Also wouldn't be better to get the pr5000 instead of pr4000?
@@futbol1972 Pr5000 is great and a tad more stable and might offer better astetics. But it isn't going to work "better" than the 4000 and the steel thickness is the same, and so are the colors. But 4000 is less money and so are the attachments. Tall power rack gives you more options and more height for attachements. Also makes it easier to do lat pull downs on the athena or ares.
What about the best of both? Could you put the lat/low-row on a 6-post 4000, and add an Athena stack to one side … plus that provides the ability for two to use cables at the same time?
That's 100% an option
Aren't they supposed to work together?
How so?
@@NoFate247 Athena and lat pull down, unlike Ares, they can be paired
Porque no los dos?
You might want to go with the higher priced Athena if you were going to do both