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Nice video man. It can be seen that you are clever man who can think with own head. But unfortunately a lot of new young costumers can't and they are buying these over engineered waste money machines.
Scotty Kilmer you said the Germans but i own a vw that's 30 years old and i never had problems with it !bmw is the same with Mercedes but the other German brands are good too
Thanks for the upload Scotty! Any insight on the 2011 thru 2017 VW Jetta? I almost bought one with their end of year sale. (I heard from a relative that they have lots of electrical issues) Can you help me make an informed decision? Thank you 👍
It is a great car. You just have to know what you're getting into when you get one. I do most of the work on my car. The biggest and most expensive problem I've come across is the airmatic suspension. It's great in working order, but it's also a nightmare waiting to happen. I'm in the process of converting mine to a conventional suspension.
I've owned the same Mercedes for 20 years, no problems. Runs fine when you are smart enough to keep up with maintenance. Almost any car is fine that way. I owned a BMW for 6 months and it broke down three times before it ever hit 5k miles. Any car can be a lemon or not.
@@haggard1378 I have a 08 CLK and a 2015 bmw 550i. The 550i is running into mechanical issues at less than 50k miles that my clk started getting at 100k miles. I’d say Mercedes is more reliable
You are probably not used with euro cars. 1. Brake rotors edge/ridge, I haven't seen a car without them and there is no problem with the edge using oem or aftermarket brake pads, even ford mondeo has those edges here, don't really know about how they are in USA. I consider the edges helpful, you can see very easy how much of it is consumed. 2. Low profile tires enhances perceived stability and that's a plus, the owner of that mercedes has good taste (michelin pilot sport) how fat do you want the tires to be ? It isn't a van, it's a fast cruiser ( almost 400 bhp ) that can go around a bend. 3. Window system, I have a 2003 CLK with the same system, never broke. That system is used by almost all coupes. ( personally seen it on Mercedes, BMW, Renault, Lancia, VW ) 4. That depreciation is the same for all expensive non-sport cars. Nobody will buy an old expensive saloon car, usually second hand buyers want a cheap car that does excellent MPG, not a large V8. 5. The prices you showed, you were not really fair, first it's OEM price and you call it a 'shock absorber' but isn't an usual shock absorber right ? CLS 550 uses air suspension, that's why it's so expensive, and it worth the money. As a hack you can buy for the price of an "air pillow" ( that's what we call them ) a full set of coil-over or normal suspension, and will solve the problem of expensive shock absorbers, but will not offer the same ride quality. 6. The errors, I think there is a good thing that they have so many 'computers' and sensors, you can know everything it happens with the car. Not every error is a problem, it is just a value or a parameter that jumped from the pre-defined 'safe' values. This way you can keep track of what's happening to your car. Most of the old cars do not have these sensors and don't 'complain' as much. Just delete the errors and see if they appear again to make sure it was not just a random spike. You have to keep in mind, no matter the brand, a car that costs $100.000 will have components of a $100.000 car. Wrote this as a car enthusiast an a person that appeciates mechanics like you.
give me a huge bro. you are the only person talking the truth here. i just realised almost all the Americans are not car enthusiasts they just need something to take them from point A to B. Mechanics in the USA are only able to work on cheap cars like their cheap plastic Ford Chevrolet etc and other cheap Japanese cars. the problem is not about the car but is mostly about the people who drive them and mechanics who work on them. they brake the parts of the cars and then make it worst instead of repairing and then call it unreliable. new car need new tools and skills and knowledge to repair. no car enthusiasts will chose a Japanese car over German only because of cheap repairs. Europeans are the best in the automobile industry but i know there are so many haters who will try to bring them down.
Well said. I have an older Mercedes that has been well taken care of because the previous owner loved the car. Even before 100,000 miles many people beat their car up. I only take advice from people who have a similar car or who love their vehicle. Everyone who's bad mouthed Mercedes that I know personally drives a piece of junk. No offense to them, but it's true. I'm not going to listen to someone that doesn't even wash their car. I like this guys channel though.
@@giggiesurge yea most people that talk crap about Benz has never even been in one, I've owned several and drive them like normal and do the proper maintenance and they have all lasted me a very very long time, not just that but it was much more enjoyable to drive any of the Benzes I've had than the Hyundai's, Toyotas, Hondas, even vw. Nothing feels as solid as a Mercedes and you can tell the difference if you ride in one, honestly going back into a Honda made me feel unsafe bc it feels flimsy in comparison
100% correct. I work at a Benz dealer in the parts dept, and we laugh at what we charge for parts and service. The engines rarely fail. Everything else does.
well i owned several ,most very old and simple cars to maintain,but never went to a mercedes dealer or garage ,a car with 50 years old that works perfectelly ,no problems either than a litle rust .don´t understand why everybody spends so much in maintenace or why they have problems ,maybe the demands of american rules about foreign cars makes them like that, don´t forget beneath the C-class all are renaults , i have 2 SL´s ,v8 engine very old both ,but having them for more than 30 years and paid in the 80´s around 1.000 dollars for them , was the most i spent on those cars,and today they run perfectelly ,the only problem is the price of gasoline , i have a friend who owned a renault clio 1.2 L ,because are very low comsumption ,well after we went to a beach ,160 km´s from my town ,the roads are in very bad shape and lot´s of corners i went in a mercedes 190E from 87 1.8L very confortable and i spent 10 dollars less than the renault 1.2L ,this to do not talk about the confort safety and horse power compared to the renault clio, you should try a european mercedes ,regards
@ferkemall i don´t own a new mercedes but for americam market lot´s of spec´s are changed ,so maybe that´s a local problem,try to import one instead of buying american mercedes, i had to comment this ,the guy says that disk brakes are made to destroy breaking pads but he doesn´t know that is a characteristic of disk brakes since the 60´s to avoid them to be broken ,and brakes pads are not in contact with the protection ,other brands don´t have it, regards
Giancarlo Miguel Actually, it’s been admitted that Benzes in the US are made cheaper. A Benz made for the German market receives better parts! 😱 Too much competition in the US, so they cut corners 😡
@@Mr_Bones. I never had problems with mercedes in Germany, and besides that, they're motors are well known for bearing long mileage without problems . It's a little disappointing they don't hold the standards in us, but it's the same with Gibson guitars sell in Europe. They are good , but not has good as the ones made in U.S . And many other things .
I didn't take Scotty's advice and bought an x-type Jaguar, a month later the transmission blew, they wanted $8,000 for the fix. I trashed it. I bought a Taurus for $800, best car I've had in my life. Lesson learned.
I think you guys are reading waaay to deep into these videos. If it bothers you guys that much then just don't watch. It's a channel designed to primary help people fix their own cars to save money and people are more focused on his presentation.
+Sean Taylor a Mercedes S class is the best you can get of any car the year it is.. eg a 2005 is the best of all 2005. have you seen the magic body feature? you can't kill a pedestrian.. most mercedes brake automatically so you don't hit someone if your texting driving or not paying attention (or foot slips)... they have best safety features for a crash to keep you alive, and many foreign presidents drive an armored S Guard version as it can withstand multiple grades going off simultaneously, chemical attacks, bullets etc. not only that, but the Brabus s900 (and others) have 360 degree cameras that see all around the car and give you an overhead 360 view of everything and everyone around the car. too many features other cars don't have to list! not to mention massage seats, mood lighting, champagne fridge etc... so what's a better car..? you say a ford ?
baalpeteor those features are either dead weight, useless to most people or pointless if you aren't a complete moron. Best car is really a subjective term, I don't care much about luxuries, aircon and a radio and I'm good, I prefer performance over luxury and there are far better cars than mercs for that
+Sean Taylor if you want performance get an AMG or Brabus benz (if yiu can afford it). Brabus S900 has over 900 horsepower. I'd love to race against a bugatti veyron. AMG has twin turbos and 5.5-6+ litre engines v8-v12. the AMG ML is fastest suv on the road
Not just luxury German cars. My new Volkswagen Passat was a nightmare. Ran well for two years. Then it developed one thing after another. At 24,000 miles: water pump, various electronic maladies, headlight dimmer switch, electric trunk latch, etc, etc . The worst car I ever bought--including 55 years of very-used cars. I was never happier to drop the lease, in spite of the $1200 hidden charge the Volkswagen dealer ripped me for. I bought a new Subaru Forester, that has been running for 12 years with no notable problems. Every time I see a Volkswagen ad I see red.
All German cars aren't reliable. Super nice driving cars, but not reliable. They look nice too, that's the problem. Looks nice, drives nice, you think this is a great car. But it's not because it's not reliable.
If you want to be safe, I mean there are individual models that are safe from a lot of manufactures, but if you want to be safe, it's very hard to screw up with Subaru, Toyota, Mazda and most Hondas. Careful with Subaru before 2010 unless they've had the headgaskets redone with the multi layer metal gaskets. Almost all of them need it and unless they've already been done, it's a big $ repair. But otherwise the engines last hundreds of thousands of miles and the multi layer metal head gaskets last a very long time. It's the junk single layer metal and graphite gaskets which are hopeless.
I own a 1975 Mercedes 450sl. Amazing how well it runs at 43 years old. However, I have a Mercedes mechanic that tells me to NEVER buy newer models, they always have failures and are difficult to work on. Your spot on with this one and Mercedes need to go back to its fundamentals of incredibly reliable CARS not just drivetrains.
There's always two main types of car owners. People who buy cars for their reliability and cheap cost. The others not caring about long ownership and wanting sexy and fast ones. Buying a car is never a good investment anyway so why are you comparing luxury brands such as Mercedes to Toyota. Different worlds.
***** Well that's if your shocks go bad, which they won't. Mercedes parts are bullet proof. There's a reason why there are so many 1980's diesel Mercedes still left in the road today. Whoever owned this '07 CLS was a moron and didn't know how to take care of his car
Chris G You have to be joking. Shocks never go bad in an MB? Why are people changing their shocks at 80k then? Check the forums. Oh and BTW the airmatics never make it past 70k without problems. Sometimes it's from lack of maintenance but most of the time it's from too much complication and poor design and the replacement OEM parts are no better. 80s Benzes will still need maintenance BTW.
Djonkie Bonk My airmatic over 85,000 no issues, my friends airmatics both have over 130,000 miles no issues, thought I'd share a few actual experiences for you. Its not complicated or expensive to repair either if you're smart and good with your hands.
samspace81 In warm climates there's no issue. In climates that have nasty winters and where salt is used it causes issues with the Airmatic systems. My neighbor had to do all 4 airmatic struts, upper and lower control arms which included the ball joints and various bushings in the rear arms since they were squeaking in his R350. My C Class has been pretty solid but it's a much simpler car.My only concern is with the 4MATIC along with the 7 speed it has since the transfer case is no longer separate so if either component goes bad the entire unit has to be changed.
just for the record Mercedes USED to make one of the best reliable and solid cars ever made, they used to build them like tanks in the pre 1995, now they one of the most expensive garbage you can own.
certified30 Yeah, they were top of those US reliability surveys up to around 1995 weren't they? Even the ones that come out before 2000 (the E and C-Classes) aren't bad.
Applekid Volvo 850 / early V70s was the last car they made that would out last most other cars made at the same time crazy considering the Germans engineered the engine on a very tight deadline.
I'm on my fourth used Mercedes. I have owned a 1976 240D, a 300SD, a 190E, and I now own a 1993 300E. I put 110,000 miles on my 1983 300SD before I retired it with 330,000 miles, and I drove my 1990 190E for six years and 80,000 miles - not bad for $2500. I've owned the 300E for two years, and it drives like a dream. Before you buy any used car, let alone an MB, you need to have a appraiser examine the car, and have the car's BOOKS AND RECORDS. If the seller will not consent to your appraiser examining the car, find another seller. I have been pleased with the durability of my older MB's, but I must say this: The current MB's are NOT the well designed and durable cars of past years. Since the wiring harness fiasco of the mid-nineties, MB has had one embarrassing design or manufacturing flaw after another. And no - I would not buy a new MB if I could afford one. The current MB's are no longer the MB's of 1980 or 1990!
Like the issue of transmission valve bodies: You could buy rebuild kits for the older transmissions, but not for the new ones. This has created a huge amount of ill will toward MB. No matter how wealthy buyers are, nobody likes to be taken advantage of.
you shouldn't have owned any if you can't afford to maintain - its a Ferrari which in some models an oil change can cost upwards of 2-3k, if you can't afford to maintain simply don't buy it
@@mayologuerrero9339 Wrong! I have a 2015 Mercedes e350, my oil change cost $97 every 10k miles! Best car ever never had any problems with them, owner of the e class since 1992 !
I have also owned 2 Mercedes for 12 years. First a 1998 E-class and now I am driving a 2006 E-class. The most reliable cars I have ever owned and I have been driving for 35 years.
Night Rider don’t believe a word. Did 200k in9 years in my merc. Cost virtually nothing in repairs. Yes parts cost but as they rarely fail it’s not a problem. Didn’t even have to change the battery!
Julian Berks You’re car was probably just well maintained ..most people who complain about these cars r coming from Acura’s, Infinity’s, and or Lexus’s that have very few problems and require less maintenance compared to a Benz...there just to over engineered for my taste and depreciate too fast.👎
Julian my wife sold her E430 and it had damn near 300,000 and the guy was just as pleased..the car did not leak oil, knock or anything...in fact after my wife sold the car and switched to a Lexus she regretted it.
Everyone has a different experience I guess. My family has owned 7 from S-classes, M-class, E-class and the only time we had to go to the dealership was on an S63 AMG one time.
As a mechanic who works on Mercedes cars, I've never understood the appeal.. or the engineering they're so damn proud of. If you want amazing engineering, buy Japanese. They haven't forgotten that the best design is often the simplest design. My 28 year old Japanese econo-box would wax this thing on a racetrack any day and it doesn't need a dozen computers or 2500 lbs of unnecessary weight to do it.
Damned right. I would love to at least own one Mercedes, but i'll drive it for a demolition derby just to see how long it'll hold together. In the meantime, i'll continue dailying my '92 K1500 Blazer until the engine, transmission or an otherwise extremely expensive part goes on it.
Carmicha3l no it’s fucking expensive.. 1,40 € per Liter of gas, and high taxes and insurance, which is Why Even a V6 is too expensive for Most People. Europe is full of 4 cylinder and diesel Engines for a reason
funny joke, watching from germany. I'm not drivig german car. Toyota. Everything is more expensive that for european cars. Thanky got they are reliable... but maintenance must be done
Benjamin Wiles you got that right. I have a 2007 c230 sport bought with 78,000 miles 2 years down the road. Fucken car broke down on me 6 times I had it towed. 2,000 dollars later. The ball joint popped out while I was driving. Never gain. I learn my lesson. I was so broke. I took Care of that's car. Now I have 2018 corolla s 😁
Ian Inman I didn’t say anything about him being able to afford it or not, I just said a cheap Mercedes is expensive. And I own a Mercedes so this is my lane 👌🏻
depends from model. I own w208,and it is cheap as hell,lot of parts from junkjard costs almoast nothing even for east europe where I am at,for sure,mechanics labor is mine and for free 😁 w219 as in video will be expensive,but dwpends ,for instance,fuel filter for that w219 costs aprox 20€ ,whilefor my w208 aprox 70€ ,brake pads /disks are aprox the same price..
I have no attachment to any of these brands but I noticed a lot of Mercedes defenders in the comments cite the fact that their own Mercedes didn't give them much trouble for years. This is called anecdotal evidence. Each owns just one of many millions of Mercedes in the world. I'm more likely to heed the words of a mechanic that worked on hundreds or thousands of cars.
@theory816 Except if it is a toyota. Toyota's are immortal and would survive in the most extreme conditions that other cars wouldnt. Its the AK of cars.
Very true. I owned MB earlier and my car didn't give me headaches (it was -98 c-class with 1,8l gasoline engine) and I drove it over 200k kilometers myself over the course of 8,5 years. Only reason I went with another was because well... I wanted something else :D Anyhow, it's true how people like to think that just because they didn't have problems with their car, it's an universal thing. And vice versa too. People like to trash talk about cars they've owned and how bad they were, even when majority of those cars are actually pretty solid. I have to admit I was kinda "scared" to buy that MB when I did, because I knew there could very well be lot of expensive problems. But I got it anyway (wasn't the most expensive back then actually) and was glad to see how little money went into it over its years (I did the repairs myself mostly and the parts needed weren't anything on the expensive side). And when I talk about repairs, I mean parts that wear out naturally in such an old car and weren't replaced before me (remember, I did drive it for a decent amount) and not about stuff breaking all the time, because it held up very well. BUT that's not to say I'd go defending all MBs and how reliable they are. Because my experience was just drop in the ocean. People just think too much their personal experiences count for anything in the bigger scale. They don't. When someone says "trust me, it's from my own personal experience" I always tend to take it with a pinch of salt. One persons experience in anything is pretty much nothing compared to all there is, so to know how MBs (for example) really are, you gotta look at the statistics and do a bit of research to know what they actually are and not just trust some MB fanboy/hater. I liked my MB. It was a good car (not so much during the winter tho, because of rear-wheel crap, which is just complete nonsense here in Finland during nasty cold winters). It was reliable car and didn't cost me all that much during its lifetime with me. It was nice to drive around and the fuel consumption was very nice (6,5 liters/100 kilometers in highway speeds was ok for such an old car with over 350k kms on it). Would I say all MBs are as reliable and cheap to maintain? Hell no. My brother also owned MB and he always complained how expensive it was (even switched to Hyundai just because the parts were cheaper, but eventually got another MB again). And that wasn't the only "MBs are expensive to repair/maintain" person I knew. So you could say that in MY personal experience I had it easy, while most people I knew and who owned an MB didn't :D Would I buy MB again? Yeah sure I suppose, even with all the risks involved. I know you could get monday-edition from different cars... could get some bad-luck-toyota or something so the statistics wouldn't matter on a personal level then (about what's more reliable car). Car is always a risk, anything could go wrong with it and even when you seek out those statistically most reliable, stuff happens. That's why I buy cars more on the "feeling" side, and don't worry about "what's the most reliable car you can own" that much. I do my research when buying a car to know what there is to expect and the like, so if something breaks it wouldn't be THAT big of a surprise. I like to know what I'm buying anyway so it's only natural process to know beforehand... So am I defending MB with this wall-of-text? Not really. Just defending my own MB I had :P And that doesn't mean I'm stupid enough to think all MBs are as reliable or cheap to maintain just because "my personal experience" with 1 of those MBs was good. ...and now that I think about it, why did I even wrote this whole thing anyway :'D I guess when you just woke up and your brain started to function again after sleep, you get lost into typing some stupid youtube comment while drinking your coffee... sorry about that :P
I own a 2005 C230 and it’s well kept just gotta take it to the small shops that specialize in German vehicles and they can make sure it’s always tip top.
There is an old man which lives where I live, he bought his mercedes new in 1974, still drives today, not clutch problems, engine failures or anything. Has something around 1,2 million km on it.
I think that's the majority of car makes, including BMW. Cheaper parts = more cost saving for them. Newer cars will only last so long before they begin to deteriorate. I've seen older 80's Volvos and Bimmers who's leather seats are still in one whole piece. Yet most early 2000's E39's I see- their interiors look like something fierce.
I've owned a Merc for 6 years & the car itself is now 30 years old, I've had very little trouble with it & it has been easy to work on myself, getting parts cheaply has never been a problem(just don't go through the dealership, or chain auto parts stores), there are no shortage of specialist parts suppliers with good prices.
Depends, w201s & w124s were over engineered & were expensive to build & buy when new, then came economic rationalism at Mercedes & the replacements for the w201 & w124 were built in South America & the quality did suffer, but then a w202 was in some cases literally half the price a same specced w201 was 10 years earlier, in the mid 2000s they learnt their lesson & moved production back to Stutgart & these cars are apparently pretty decent but I think the ease of self service is probably gone.
Yeah mine is w201 Diesel, the odo is frozen at 283,000 km & it was nearly 5 years ago the odo froze so it's probably well over 300,000 km now, I've done ball joints, suspension bushes, brake disks, rebuilt calipers, filters, & changed the injector overflow lines, that's all it's needed so far.
Brian Fortiz IIRC, he's complained about American car reliability too. The difference is when people think luxury cars, they don't think American. So when you buy an American car you aren't spending $60,000+ for it. I don't think Scotty would be complaining as much if the Mercedes were cheaper, or at least was built to last. If you want a luxury car more worth your money, go for Lexus or Acura - those things just don't die and are more serviceable.
Brian Fortiz Right - like I said, they're not worth as much. It's an easier bullet to bite spending $15-$35k on an American car you know will eventually break down (and is cheaper to repair) vs a $70k Merc. When you pay a premium price you should expect premium quality and premium ride. The Merc is mostly just a premium ride.
***** It's because people just want the luxury aspect of a car. Let's be honest, the average American doesn't pay complete attention to reliability when buying a car. My brother bought three Mercedes fresh off the dealership, and about five years later (after 5 years of well maintence) it would repeatedly break down just 120k miles in. Not sure if it had any problems in between that five year period though. Also, people assume that Germans are reliable, because they invented cars.
2012 MB E350 W212: Bought it for cash under Blue Book wholesale w/ 105,000 miles. Replaced some hoses, brake pads, motor mounts, evap canister. Kept up the PM's and drive it easy. Now at 220,000 ish miles and still driving like it's almost new. Best car I've ever owned! But, I agree, they'll rip you off at the dealer on parts!!!
Oh dear. Ridges on the brake rotors? Yes, but this does NOT mean that you have to replace a rotor. You replace rotors when they reach the wear limit. Usually one MB rotor lasts through two sets of pads. New pads will not be affected by an existing ridge (and no, they won't squeal on account of it either) because they are of the exact same dimensions as the previous ones. Generally, MB brakes are among the best OE brakes you will find on any car. Depreciation? This happens on EVERY CAR, on every luxury car in particular, and MBs actually fare better in this regard than most other manufacturers. Recessed lug bolts (yes, BOLTS, NOT lug nuts!)? Why should this be a problem? Torque them properly every time as you should, and you will NEVER have a problem! Error codes: yes, they can be a nuisance--on ANY modern car with lots of computers. Sum total of this clip: lots of noise, very little substance.
+YUTBOUE SKUCS He's simply trying to pile up the price of everything so that he can make a false point. Rotors can be resurfaced with minimal costs, and you do not replace the rotors and brake pads at the same time. You hardly need to replace rotors.
+Omar Awad Right--although I think he genuinely believes in what he says. He has apparently been working on his own for a long time. Such people oftentimes adopt a know-it-all attitude in spite of their actually quite limited expertise. It should be noted, however, that it is not only unnecessary to resurface rotors with ridges, but that MB explicitly advises against resurfacing rotors. In fact there is actually an advantage to the ridges: if you have a bit of experience, they allow you to judge the remaining service life of the rotor without even taking the wheel off. MB rotors last a long time, although at some point they, too, need to be replaced. The front rotors that I just replaced on my MB (alongside the pads) had done 100,000 miles.
+Arun R. You mean a pos[er car]? No, MBs are a very common sight where I live. And at 211,000 miles, my well-maintained MB (for which I paid rather little, in part thanks to misconceptions like those propagated by this video) performs splendidly, thank you very much.
+YUTBOUE SKUCS yeah - all cars depreciate. but depreciate to 20% of their original value in 8 years? I bought a $14,000 Ford ranger in 2004. it has 96K on it and I could sell it to 5 different people tomorrow for $7,000. and the "check engine" light has never come on, and I've spent less than $1,000 total replacing parts over the years (one set of tires, one battery, ball joints - did those myself.) other than that, just oil changes (which I do myself.) a good rule of thumb is never buy a model used that you couldn't afford to buy new.
+Maz Wooden Actually the new Mercedes are pretty reliable cars. They are more reliable than any US car. > 3.bp.blogspot.com/-mwNsg9ZLIZk/WK6HLZZmIGI/AAAAAAAAjns/OTsH9xRrh-oVoo1_Wi7gAMfAfn0-ysqOgCLcB/s1600/Vehicle-Dependability-Study--5.jpg
+Orlando Streets the reason I said that is because some rich people who got money to burn on damm cars are arguing in comment when this video clearly don't apply to them matter fact if you rich this channel is not for you.this channel supposed to help you fix your car by yourself to save money and give car advice like this video for example.
hardyman A lot of people we think are rich are in reality deep in debt. I used to know a guy who drove around in an old beater Buick station wagon. It turned out, he was one of the richest guys around. The point is, you just never know if someone is really rich, or poor. That was my point.
i see your point but my point was that this video was put up to inform people what to expect when dropping a lot of money on a Benz. the biggest thing for me is losing $63,000 in 8 years (i think that a big deal)
Everyone can hate on Scotty, but he is just simply looking out for the workingman. A lot of folks dream of owning European cars because they are nice. Unfortunately some folks just don't have that kind of money to throw on a vehicle. I'm one of those guys, I owned a 2008 Audi A4 and it was a headache, not because I couldn't afford the parts, but because it was not fun knowing that my money was going towards repairs instead of customizations. Now I own a 2010 Toyota Camry and people can call it boring or an average Joe car, but it's the Best damn vehicle I have ever owned. It's sporty, fast, comfortable, and very cheap to repair. Japanese cars are the way to go. Lexus, Honda, Acura, Toyota, Nissan, Infinity 💯
My story is the same! I had a 2005.5 Audi A4 3.2 and I hated the fact that every other month it needed a repair and I got sick of not driving it so I got a Honda Accord Sport, and now there are no more headaches. 2016 probably costed $100 in maintenance just for a single oil change.
The main problem with Infiniti is that they share platforms and components with cars from European luxury brands, because they want to be the Japanese BMW, but know that no badge snob will ever admit that anything without a BMW badge on it drives as well as one. They can build a car as good as a BMW, but it won't matter, because the main component of superior BMW performance is the badge, so nobody will ever prefer something with an Infiniti badge, even if it had the engine of a Bugatti Veyron. Their solution to that, rather than outengineer BMW and Mercedes so nobody can deny that the Infiniti is at least as good, was to source platforms and components from German brands to convince people that they have a bit of "pedigree." They thought that Mercedes infotainment, AMG suspension, and a BMW audio system would make badge snobs believe that the Infiniti is actually BMW. Not just as good as BMW, they wanted to literally be Japanese BMW, and attract BMW fans who can't look past the badge by making them think the Q50 is actually an M5. In reality, of course it didn't work, and what ended up happening was that the European components introduce European unreliability and repair costs. Infiniti used to be as reliable as any other Japanese brand until about 8 years ago, then they decided to stop engineering their own cars. Hopefully they heed the now nearly nonexistent sales and fix that problem soon, but knowing Nissan, they'll probably pull all R&D, stop advertising, then complain 5 years later that nobody knows about Infiniti and cancel the brand, like they did with the Gen4 Quest.
Back in 85 for my 30th birthday I bought a mint looking 1976 450SL with 11,800 miles on it. I drove it to the nearest dealer to get the oil changed, basic motor tune up/service check over (just because the car had sat in a garage and only drive 500 miles in almost 5 years. I also replaces the battery. Now this was 1985 > the battery (which of course was in the trunk) $215, the tune up (and their was nothing wrong) $435 ... the oil change was $115 > not sure if that was cheaper than normal because of the other service check I had done ... anyway, I learned quickly I could afford to buy the car > wasn't sure I could afford to own it.
It's not a horrible design... It's a very clever one... for the company... I think they win more money from repair costs than from the cars themselves...
ALL automakers make more from repair parts than from the original sale. The average manufacturer profit margin on a new car is around 10% (and dealers tend to be around the same level - this is why they pressure you into extras which have more margin in them. Margins in secondhand are much larger) Mercs are improving from their quality nadir of the early 2000s but the things that need to be understood with complex electronic systems are that: 1: If multiple faults are showing there's almost always a common cause. Don't just go mindlessly replacing modules "because computer says so" because the odds are pretty good you'd end up with the same faults. 2: The most unreliable part of ALL cars is not the electronics. It's the wiring - specifically the plugs and sockets. Stress fractures on flexing cables, bad earths and Water in connectors cause more problems than pretty much everything else combined - and when you get stupid designs like VW's engine control module in the footwell under the carpet you have a problem waiting to happen the first time a window is left open in the rain. In the case of that many faults the first thing to cheak is that everything is earthed correctly. As an example of how odd things can get, Nissan Primera P12 hachbacks tended to develop bad earths in the taillight cluster connector which would cause issues ranging from cruise control intermittently shutting down to the engine computer going into limp-home mode (and a lot of things in between). Fixing that problem solves everything - Nissan have issued 3 recalls for this problem but stealerships never did the repair work properly) As I've previously mentioned the last time I saw a merc with this many problems (a 280C), it turned out to be a bad thermostat fooling the computer into thinking there were dozens of faults. Replacing it allowed the engine to warm up properly and all the faults went away. The owner had spent $3000 replacing everything the computer said was faulty, but hadn't managed to fix it (Merc thermostats are about $70). When it comes to repairing cars, being a mechanic is no longer good enough. You need to be a technician with a good understanding of the way electronics and electrical systems work. Blindly replacing parts benefits nobody - the customer pays more and your reputation will be shot when the faults aren't cleared. Because of the electrical issues, many European makers have gone firstly to sealed connector blocks (O-ring seals, etc) and more recently to grease-filled connectors (which have been used by telcos for decades in outside plant - water can't fill a void that's already fillled with something else) and the Japanese makers have followed suit. BE VERY CAREFUL when dealing with grease-filled connectors. Don't remove any of the grease and always repack them when reassembling. DO NOT USE SILICON GREASE to repack the connector - under any circumstances. If you use silicon grease in electrical connectors you WILL end up with major problems long-term due to copper/silicon ion migration and the only long-term-viable repair method is to chop the connectors out entirely & replace them with new ones. Don't use automotive grease to pack a connector as many of these are conductive. There are specific greases for electrical connectors. Don't be tempted to bodge in a substitute.
Alan Brown I am more than happy with my 1994 w124 300D... Immortal car, had it since my father bought it back then and only serviced in MB.... ~1 300 000 kilometers and still in perfect condition... AMAZING car (if you take good care of it)
I really think the big three had the same business model until the Japanese made them at least think about long term reliability. I remember the early 80s American cars and they were horrible. They were clearly made to last just as long as they could possibly get away with lasting. My parents had three cars, two chevys and a ford and most of the time one was in the shop and sometimes two were in the shop. They had three so they could at least have one to get to work. Luckily they worked at the same place or we would have had to have four cars.
Hallei Ibin yes,, why can my Lexus depreciate that fast,,, so not fair,,, you mercedes owners are hogging up all the depreciation AND mechanics.... SHARE!! lmaoo😂😂
Keye T Mercedes owner here 03 M-Class never had any major issues just regular maintenance and only had to change the tires every 6 years. Lexus always have major issue like catching fire! Hahaha You can have the Fire starter Lexus! Hahaha
Seriously! I Owen a 2012 C6.3 AMG as long as you keep up with maintenance as you should with any car it will last longer then any domestic vehicles. My brother in law still drives his 1970 c230 with no problems.
I’ve had a 2002 Mercedes cl500 and the engine is absolutely flawless, the only issues I’ve had was the abc, I did the fix myself and I had little mechanical experience at the time
I'm not sure intelligent is the correct word there. They lessen the ass screwing but they don't get away scott free. Not unless they can drink a lot of free coffee and gobble high end snacks when they wait in the lounge during service. But most upper middle class people don't gobble that stuff so Mercedes is still coming out ahead.
The 3 years lease/own option means the rich don't have to deal with the problems as they get rid of the cars just as the 3 year warranty expires and/or it needs it 1st MOT (UK safety vehicle check on cars, I only post this in case non-UK people don't know the acronym MOT). Overall the lease/own option is costly, but you do get a brand new car every 3 years with all the new bells and whistles & latest technology. So, apart from cost (which the rich do not care about), this is an intelligent way to keep up appearances and always have the new toys to show off.
lowriec Yep. Aside from the fact here most leases are 10,000 to 12,000 miles per year and I drive 20,000. And I keep my cars going as long as I can, primary driver is over 300,000 miles and still 20,000 per year. It's strange though, rich people tend not to be wasteful with money but they are throwing away a lot of money even on the lease plan. Less than buying though. I guess most of them don't do much more than sit in traffic on the way to their 60 hours a week jobs and sit in traffic on the way home. Maybe a nice drive on the weekend.
Scotty this has got to be one of the most entertaining video's I've watched from you. I could tell you were holding back your laughter while recording it. Keep up the good work.
I had a 2001 s430 for over 10 years had over 300,000 miles on it after I sold it and it was an amazingly comfortable and reliable car. There was a lot of interest when I sold it, I was shocked! In the end there were a few minor issues I didn't want to bother fixing, but overall was an excellent purchase and I'm going to be a repeat s class buyer. It had far fewer issues than my previous American cars for sure and was super easy and affordable to maintain.
I had an 2003 e320 and it was sooo comfotable and bulletproof. The older Mercedes are better built than the newer ones. I'd say they started to change around 2007-2008. They were still reliable but more technology equals more problems.
I have a 2003 E500 and it refuses to die. Factory air suspension lasted 165,000 miles, and I’m currently replacing it with coilovers for sportier handling. (Although the air suspension does a fine job of sports handling, it’s too unreliable, so traditional coil conversions as well as track ready coilover kits readily exist on the open market). Mine, I paid $1,700 for and it came with a factory set of Mandrus wheels worth as much as I paid for the car as well as the factory split 5 spoke wheels. It’s no more complicated to work on than a modern dodge charger/challenger. (Which share their chassis and suspension architecture with my car).
***** "Because it's nonsense that's why." no....it isn't...it actually DOES wear out the rubber on them....I have seen it so many times it is ridiculous...on convertables it is one of the highest wear parts on the car...I don't know why he was showing 3 different cars in this video... "One of my vehicles is a 1997 Chevy S-10 ( a cheap auto) and the windows seals are as good as new. In fact all the weatherstripping is like new." because it isn't a convertible -facepalm- seriously look at this morons video again...the car with the window going down an inch is even a different color HAHAHAHA!!!! You can see the other car in the reflection of the first one
I have an 08 as well. even without the battery,you can open and close the door fine, you just need to push on the window a little. the trick is to let the Germans test tech and then put it in American cars when its worth a shit.
Chris G Yep, got that on my Bullitt. My wife had her 95 Mustang into the dealer a bunch of times when it was new because the door wouldn't close right. She was first told nothing was wrong with it and then told by someone else at the dealership that it was a design flaw. Making sure the window was down a touch solved the problem.
I can only say Mercedes is the best car you can own, sure it's not cheap to fix, but in you know the dealers, you can get parts for 2 or 3 times less the money Mr Kilmer showed. This is european car, for the european roads, it's ment to be driven on good clean roads. Finally, let's not forget that, this "overengeneering" of Mercedes is the reason why we have ABS, Airbags, heated seats. I am not the biggest fan of complicated cars, but it's the future of automotive industry, in you want something cheap and reliable, you can always get a wagon with horses.
First, I'm not russian, second, I believe that cars work best, where they were meant to be driven, small asian cars work best in Asia, big muscle cars and pickup trucks work best in the US, and sedans (like the Merc or BMW) and got hatches (Golf, Peugeot 308 etc.) are best for the Europe. There is no bad car, just not the right conditions, if you came to Europe with a Ford F-150, you'll be the laughing stock on the street, and since you mentioned Russia, try starting a Chevy Camaro at -40C.
+Ivan Ivanov You do know the Camaro has been made I Canada up until this last year, and at -40 I don't even plug my chey in using synthetic oil! My Chevy runs +39C -45C in Canada with no problems on a 2009
Have had three Mercs over 30 years, Have had only two break downs. due to me skimping on the servicing and trying to save money... would I buy a Merk.? yes, every time.
you either have large pockets for the insanely high Merc dealer maintenance, or are lying. I, on the other hand, had a toyota , one car, for 30 years and it never broke down on me during that time. ONE CAR that cost a ton less. I now have all that money in the bank that you wasted on 3 mercs.
+Scotty Kilmer do you necessarily have to go to a dealer to fix your car or can you gt a jiffylube or walmart? Also, is bmw more reliable than Mercedes? is a 2011 m3 reliable?
NO modern german car is reliable over time. And all german cars require expensive tools and computers to work on correctly, you're nuts taking one to a walmart, even for oil changes, cause if they screw up the oil drain bolt, it can cost a thousand bucks for a new oil pan
my great uncle buys a new mercedes sport ute and a new chevy suburban every year or 2. of course he's also a multimillionaire. most people can't afford to buy $100k worth of new cars every 2 years.
+Scotty Kilmer ... or you could jb weld it shut if the bolt won't go back In , and just use the vacuum method of changing oil from the top of the engine (where you add oil). cheap fix
People still don't get Scotty channel goal? He is educating you all not waste money on car that will be money sink. Fanatics of Mercedes are mad for common sense.
i think everyones missing the point of this video. scotty is saying that the new mercedes are designed to empty your wallet. he never said anything about the old mercedes. of course the old mercedes were better. almost all the older cars from every manufacturer were better. New cars are made to break down and cost you more money, with the exception of honda and toyota.
Absolutely fucking absurd. NO. Old cars were not "better" . Simpler or primitive in comparison? Yes. But by no means better. And NO. none of the new cars are "designed to empty your wallet". Old cars are much more unreliable, unsafer, worse for the environment.and the list goes on. Anyone who thinks older cars are better either can't afford a new one or they are a complete moron. I own a 1970 Dodge Challenger 440 R/T convertible. I love it. It's a great car. Is it better than a new Challenger? Hell fuck no.
Steven Hamilton Chrysler products were always crap bad comparison compare a toyota then and now always Bulit to last as long as they can you only buy performance cars because you like them not to last or save you gas.
I do my own maintenace. I've owned many cars from different makes, including Japanese, and they all had a ridge, eventually, on the disc brakes. That's to say I've never seen a brake pad cover the whole disc. I don't know where you get this nonsense that you have to replace the brake pads with the disc brakes whenever that happens. Unless the disc wears out below the minimum thickness recommended by the manufacturer, regardless of ridge or not, there's no need to replace the disc. Also, complaining about low profile tyres on a performance car? Seriously? You're full of it.
In Sweden its still really common driving around in older cars from the 80s or 90s. Especially Volvos there are just so many of Them so they are really cheap and last forever. Old Mercedes you se as well.
+Scotty Kilmer I purposefully bought an old 1997 Volvo 850R Wagon because 1) its the last year actually built in Sweden2) I am not a mech wizard by any means but I can do most of the stuff myself3) Its really not expensive to work on this carLove your channel and just subscribed, thanks for all the info
Just bought an ‘04 S211 E55 AMG. Rear disks and pads were a 1/3 of what I paid for my M3. I do all the work myself, and most of the big bills have been paid by someone prior to me... might explain the 8x previous owners...
Cody Munday it’s actually because the Mustang has pillarless doors. His Celica doesn’t have the pillarless doors, which is why it doesn’t have the window go down slightly when you open the door
I'm a mechanic and a Mercedes owner. In fact, I've owned a few of them, and when I was traveling over the road for my job on a regular basis, I managed to put over a quarter of a million miles on two of them. Maintenance was more expensive than other cars, yes, And there was the occasional expensive repair. Worth it? EVERY PENNY. A Chevy Impala or a Toyota don't provide that level of comfort or safety. Plus I can repair it myself. They're not that complicated, they're just DIFFERENT. Actually, until the very most recent generations, Mercedes interiors were very simple and basic, and had very few gimmicks or unnecessary items. Buy a certified preowned if you're scared of the repair bills... .... ALL vehicles are expensive to repair today.
Dude cracks me up every time. I'm amazed he has almost 6 million subscribers. His advice is basically sound... and he knows how to play people, for sure. Dude is a master marketer and excellent at belittling those with money.
His low testosterone is not only making him hate a powerful Mercedes Benz that was owned by a drug dealer that never maintained it (25 problems, and a ho ain't one of them), it's making his voice turn into one of a little school girl. LMMFAO!
you know nothing about the human male body. If I had low testosterone I wouldn't have two sons and would not be losing my hair. And if you're trying to be a comic, hope you have a day job.
Welcome to the world of German (and European) car ownership. After owning several German cars I have gone back to Japanese brands, now my cars don't go wrong and are cheap to maintain. This German superior engineering is a con.
Well, here in Europe a Mercedes will run like a dream. The problem is your infrastructure. US roads have so many potholes and are made of concrete. A Mercedes isn't built for roads like that. You'll spend a fortune on maintenance, so Scotty is right. I would go for a Japanese or US brand if I would live in the States. Cheaper to maintain and primitive technology that is able to handle the way rougher roads. Oh, and a US built mercedes isn't the exact same design as a European one. They are built in Mexico and actually a little cheaper to produce because of different safety and environmental regulations.
Waarom? Your analysis is incorrect, it is more than a US thing, the cars are poorly engineered and often poorly built. I don't live in the US and in any case in the UK Benz do not rate well in reliability surveys. Mercedes has cheapened their product and it shows.
Good points if you pay full price for a new Mercedes. I bought a 9 year old car with low mileage (36k) and a good maintenance history. I believe the trick is to find an older Mercedes with a good maintenance history thru carfax. Also, Mercedes usually gives you the first two years of free maintenance and typically folks that purchase new Mercedes have money and used the dealer foe all maintenance.. thus having a reliable record... my 2c
Exactly. Those are the cheat codes my friend. You need to buy your car from someone who loved it and is willing to let go of it. Not someone who beat their car and is trying to get a quick cash grab.
@@giggiesurge yup that's how I've gotten 2 perfectly fine c classes that never gave me issues, still have the second one that runs like new at 250k even after an accident
Scotty, perhaps you shouldn't be talking about things you don't understand? IN GERMANY you get to change your brake pads MAXIMUM two times. The first time you will find a ridge on the outside circumference of the disk as wear indicator and to tell you when you HAVE TO change the set of brake components. NEW PADS WILL FIT INTO THE ORIGINAL WEAR PATTERN. When you brake down from 255km/h it is imperative that the brakes can handle it, so they match pads and disks and make them squeal ON PURPOSE, so you change them before you can't stop the car reliably anymore....I used to work for BMW Germany btw. Same wear characteristics, we used to file down a bit of the sharp edge of the new pads though and brake it in hard prior to handing the car to the client. As for the error codes, it is normal to see a few stored on a CAN-BUS system, can be voltage spikes, resistance changes, hiccups or miscommunication for split seconds, no worry's on most of them.
oBseSsIoNPC That's a load of crap. Why would the engineers design it to squeal to indicate the pads will need changing? That's what the wear indicator is there for so that if the pads are down to the metal it completes the circuit which will trigger the warning on the readout inside the car. I changed the pads and rotors on my C Class because they were pulsating when I pushed on the brakes to reduce the speed of the car from higher speeds. If I just changed the pads like the fanboys say to do then the rotors would have etched whatever messed up pattern it had into the pads and I'd be down there replacing both very soon anyway.
+Djonkie Bonk The squealing brake feature does exist outside of German cars, my Dad's old 1997 Plymouth Voyager had them. It's a way to tell the driver his/her brake pads need replaced, but without computers. They're designed so the squealing device only scrapes part of the rotor (or whatever is is they scrape) that won't be touched by the brake pad, and only when the pads are low enough.
nitebluesky I believe he is referring to it in the sense that it is an old car that he can beat on with minimal or normal maintenance, hence the term "beater".
@Pan Balagan, if you claim to have knowledge about Mercedes cars please state your age, how long you own a mercedes for, which model, how far you drove it, how many problems you had. I am a Mercedes enthusiast and it makes me sad to see these cars becoming more and more useless, having more and more useless gadgets, completely ruining a legendary brand. Even the AMG models aren't about performance anymore, now they are all status symbols. And because of people like you who believe so hard in the image of this reliable, over-engineered (in a good way, not in a bad way as explained in the video) status symbol they can go on producing overpriced bullshit. Just look how many SUVs they sell nowadays, it has nothing to do with engineering, reliability, or any of these important matters anymore. It's all about the image now.
The key to owning MB is shopping around for parts. Most people here are dumb af if your getting them at dealership I have zero sympathy for you and also finding a competent mechanic that know what he/she is doing.
dswarriors depends on certain parts I mean there places like FCP Euro prices are reasonable. You can’t expect cheap prices for luxury cars parts lmafo. So much resources out there again no need to depend on dealership.
Totally. I have used RockAuto in the U.S as the go to for all auto parts, and has often meant the difference in me being able to own a car that i otherwise would not have been able to.
@Terry Melvin not 100% true. Just remember these Mercedes uses Torx sockets/bits. The parts are straight forward sometime you going to need special key sockets or tool like releasing the struts from the springs. There are (2) pins in the calipers that need to be punched out to remove the brake pads, etc. Maybe you will need STAR tool but my iCarsoft tool is just good enough.
1. Dont buy a used Mercedes 2. Dont get stuff done at the dealership 3. If you're going for a luxury vehicle don't expect everything to be cheap... BTW I have a 2001 ML and it still runs smooth with minimal issues over the years
goodfella21f Yeah we just took care of it like it was always a new car... I've now started dropping money into it, but thats for performance upgrades (race brakes, tires, rims, coilovers, exhaust, etc.) But overall its only recently had one radiator leak and it had one window motor malfunction... but thats it for problems these 17 years its been alive lol
Mercedes have amazing engines and they will have problems but will start twenty four seven and never leave you stranded if it’s well taken care off and their easy to fix can change the water pump without doing a timing change ..
this is proof that you don't know enything about german cars. my audi is 14 years old and at the audi garage, the mecanic said the car looked almost like a 3 years old car and it has 170 000 km. its far from being scrap. but if i look at 2002 hondas, they are almost all sounding like shit or the paint is cooked by the sun. so in fact, a german is more durable but costs more. its a choice, pay more for more or pay less for less.
mglsite i own a 07 c230 n from the payments on the repairs i already knew that the repairs n manual labor costs were gone be high thats why i already decided to do the repairs myself im only 17 but a lil bit of youtube videos on how to change certain parts n im good 🤷🏾♂️
Except for when you need to clear vehicle-specific codes and reset electronic interlocks that keep your car from working correctly. Dealers/repair shops charge $100-$200 for diagnostic (just to tell you what you already might know). To clear out the codes it's minimum 1-hour of labor (some do by half-hour but it's rare), so even with doing things yourself, depending on the repair, you're still looking at minimum $200-$500 just to have someone double-check your work and 5 minutes clearing out/resetting the codes.
Lol, the man is right and you wanna-be Mercedes boys are hating him for it. Besides the new 2013 through 2016 Mercedes models, every other make has been a complicated and short-lasting model. I mean, otherwise how do you explain that you can get most 2009 through 2012 Mercedes-models for under $17,000? That's because those cars are more expensive to maintain than to they are to buy. If it wasn't for the "brand name" like Scotty mentioned, those cars would not even be worth $7k. Not only are their computer-systems inaccurate, expensive, and prone to failure, but they are cars that are designed for luxury rather than for performance and ENDURANCE. Similar to the BMW, this is because most owners who can actually AFFORD a new Mercedes or BMW will just change it for a new one every other year, so why the hell would such an expensive brand-company even worry about making their cars long-lasting and year efficient? Do not get me wrong though, 2015 models and up are cars that are absolutely incredible and magnificent, with a much superior performance than any car on the road today. But give it 3 to 4 years and it'll turn to dust as well.
+dropout0110 Maseratti, any new Range Rovers from 2014 and up. All new models from 2016 and up will be really good, no matter the brand. But that does not mean they will all endure the same after 5 to 10 years.
i dont agree on that....my clk is 12 years old now and i dont have had any fancy problems at all in the 8 years i own it. I dont say mercedes has no problem cars at all...becouse i know they have build some serious crap like the 6 cilinder engines build between 2004 an 2009. they had some major isues....but caling mercedes or bmw in general a money pit is a little bit short minded in my opinion.
They're aimed towards the crowd of people that can afford to lease or purchase it for like 3 or 4 years until the new model generations come out and the people trade up to the next one. They're kinda like a throw-away, but really fancy and expensive
My dad's GTR has that window up and down thing when you open and shut the door. I thought it was because of air pressure. When he had his corvette he always had to keep a door or a window open when he shut his trunk. Otherwise he would have to slam it shut because all the pressure. I figured that's why they do that, for an easier time closing the door without having to slam it. Either way it looks pretty cool, it looks and sounds higher quality than the one on that mercades
Matthew Moore Well I know it's not just on Mercedes, it's on our nissan. I'm sure it serves some kind of purpose if they put it on a car that is literally designed just to go fast. Not saying it will aid in speed, just I think it serves a purpose
Tyler Hough Actually they have the windows go down to provide a better seal for the weatherstripping gasket. It has nothing to do with pressure inside the vehicle. On the older cars that had glass where it was free, without a frame around it, you'd often have a bad seal with the weatherstripping to the body because it would pinch in an awkward fashion. This design lowers the window slightly so it can slide into the weatherstripping when its closed providing a tight seal. It is complicated but something I wish I had for my old car, first saw this on the new challengers and was thoroughly impressed.
DE Nichols I'm not sure if even Mercedes power windows are unusually unreliable. And don't take my profile picture too seriously, I'm a fan of the older Mercs but I'd never own one because "a cheap old Mercedes is one of the most expensive cars money can buy"
Sure its a money pit when your customer drives a top end Mercedes Benz CLS 550 where even oil change can cost hundreds of dollars. Go buy a C-class Mercedes with normal 2 liter engine and the costs are much more lower compared to this. New C-class MB is around 35-40k here in europe and holds value very well.
Yeah, he's taking one specific model Mercedes, pointing out some stupid shit to make his case. He also doesn't point out that many of the parts can be purchased for a lot less if you get refurbished parts instead of new. Their rotors don't have to be turned because they use an metal alloy that doesn't warp, so you just replace the pads and then if there is a big enough lip, then you replace the rotors. It's pretty simple. The CLS is a rare model, not too many of them sold. But some Mercedes actually go up in value if they are a specific model, and they are old enough, etc. I saw the late 50's 190SL's have risen quite a lot and now they are in the $200K price range in mint condition. Imagine that. The 190SL's originally sold for around $4000. So, any expensive car loses value in the first 10 to 20 years, but some of them actually start to go back up if they are the right model. yeah, the C class and E class are much more reasonable to maintain since there are a lot of them on the road and parts are more readily available and much less expensive. But if you take care of them, they are pretty bullet proof, it's all in how well they are maintained. Any car can go to shit if it's not maintained properly.
I have a 19 year old e320. I spend less than $1000 / year on maintenance. Have heard the newer ones are not as easy but my owner's experience has been great.
Most 04-07 Mercedes have a crank shaft issue that may go out 4-7k fix. Do NOT buy one from these years!!! There is a class action lawsuit against them regarding this.
Indeed, the dreaded balance shaft failure around 60k - 80k miles on the M272 series v6s between 04-08. Costs around $4k to fix. No bueno. 3.2 liter v6 is better, which is odd because I think it was MB's 1st v6 ever 🤔
Knowing that, when I bought my 2006 CLS (used, with the M272) I negotiated a preventive replacement of the balance shaft which cost $2,200 (it's an engine-out service). The dealer and I split the cost and now I'm into my 4th year enjoying the car with basically only routine maintenance. Of course, if you wait for the CEL to come on, you're looking at a big repair bill... knowledge is power.
Actually, Scotty, a person that buys a Mercedes SHOULD buy 2 Mercedes. 1 to crap on, the other one to cover it up with. I have been a mechanic for 20 plus years. Speaking from experience working on these pieces of junk, you are absolutely correct about them. Plus, as a mechanic, you need a complete set of tools, PLUS all the special tools that are designed to work on ONLY these Mercedes garbage cans. Talk about frustration. I don’t care what any Mercedes owner says to me about their cars. It won’t change my mind.
@Lord Firstosoul absolutely nothing, I own a 55 rocket 88 2 dr ht that is beautiful. but they are infinitely and I mean infinitely easier to work on then any modern car.
Well your not a Mercedes Benz mechanic, I'm sure your used to simple cars with carburators an distributor. Maybe you should work on Lawnmowers. There so hard to work on 😭
Scotty raises a very good point-the increasing complexity of these cars makes them effectively worthless, once you have gone over 80,000 miles. If your car is worth 1/10 of original sales price, why spend 2-5X the value of the car to repair it? This is why you see these used luxury cars in used car lots-they get purchased by people who cannot afford to maintain them. i saw a M-B "Maybach" sedan , all pimped out at a used car lot-price? $10,000-a rolling disaster in the making.
BMW drivers are pretty awful as well haha. I agree hahaha,they think they are a master race of cars drivers looking down their pompous noses at other peasant car drivers.... Yes they are definitely a deluded bunch that's for sure!!!
This man speaks the truth, MB is way over engineered. I have been an owner, and know a lot of body men and mechanics and most of them will say the same thing.
If only they went back to old ways of making mercedes. My w202 is very convenient, nearly everything is easily reachable and its very reliable car.. Old mercedes cars were not money pits..
Any Mercedes before 1990 were great cars. Look at the 300D diesels. Still used as taxis in some parts of the world. About the only "computer" those old Benzes had was a electronic ignition box and an O2 sensor for fuel mixture and that's pretty much it. Vacuum does the rest. However, Vacuum leaks are terrible to diagnose, but this isn't a problem limited to just Mercedes.
This guy is against all performance mods because you should keep your car stock because your car was designed by engineers because performance Mods aren’t designed by engineers... right?
Change the battery, you're screwing up your electrical system. Change your battery at least every five years even if it works fine. They are $100 with coupon for the gold model at Advance auto. What are you actually saving buy running that thing until it fails other than stressing the heck out of your electrical system and risking a jump or a tow. I bet you don't run tires until they pop, you're wasting money unless they pop!
I've had 5 mercedes. The tire design is dumb and some of the tools are complicated, but they have better 2nd and 3rd resale value. I never buy new and get old lady car. Pay the good oil changes..keep good tires and treat it well and it will last.
I'm from Germany and I own a Mercedes. Not only Mercedes uses these kind of break pads, other brands do that to. The brake pads are smaller than the surface of the rotor and leave ridges because these ridges guide the brake pads. If you buy new brake pads you just need to file of the edges in a 45 degree angle and it fits perfectly without any squeking (very easy to do no special tools required) Furthermore are the brake pads and the rotors pretty cheap. You can buy pads and a rotor for about 90 dollars
My 2002 CLK 430 is probably the best car I've owned, but I'm also a diy kind of guy. If someone goes to the dealership to fix simple stuff, of course it's going to add up. Don't be afraid to get your hands a little dirty. Yes, I know it's not an office desk, so it'll be a little bit of a new experience.
I own a 2004 c180, it's now over 350,000km hitting rough roads everyday! The major maintenance issues I had were replacing the engine oil cooler and suspensions just once!
For luxury go Japanese, Lexus, Acura ,and to an extent, Infini are way cheaper to maintain compared to European brands. The Japanese luxuries share key engineering with the mainstream brands in which they're based off of and some of those powertrains often stay in production long enough for the bugs to be worked out which also means the common parts are interchangeable, have better availability and are cheaper if they do break.
That's awesome, Louis. Yeah, nobody needs all these computers in their cars & trucks. They just need a car that lasts forever & goes from point A to point B, not over-computerized cars or trucks.
I got a 99 e320 with 247k and its still hasnt had any problems other than the 2 cats but I changed those on my own which saved me money and the normal maintenance
сука-педик. I own 2011 c63 amg the 6.3 v8 version has 200 000 kms on it not a single problem lol my dad owns a gle 63s he is very pleased with it my mom owns a gla 200 also she is in love with that car my uncle has a s560 no problems i don't know but maybe my whole family got lucky :)
Kingdom of Montenegro dude, you're lying to yourself if you don't think that 2011 has had more problems than 15 fords, you should buy a real American Ford.
I replaced front and rear pads without replacing the rotors. Pads fit in the same groove with no squealing. 2006 ML500. Oh, and I got it free from my Dad 4 years ago. 2 air shocks $1300 each, door lock fix $850. Smooth and Fast 7 speed Autobahn vehicle. Replacing headlight bulbs is a big job.
Meanwhile, my 1995 acura integra with 150k miles: New door latch New cam gasket New rubber trim for windows New radiator hose New timing belt Few dozen oil changes And that's over TWENTY FOUR YEARS of ownership.
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Nice video man. It can be seen that you are clever man who can think with own head. But unfortunately a lot of new young costumers can't and they are buying these over engineered waste money machines.
Scotty Kilmer There are actually two reasons to buy a Mercedes. Forza and diecast models
Scotty Kilmer you said the Germans but i own a vw that's 30 years old and i never had problems with it !bmw is the same with Mercedes but the other German brands are good too
Scotty Kilmer happy new year buddy!
Thanks for the upload Scotty! Any insight on the 2011 thru 2017 VW Jetta? I almost bought one with their end of year sale. (I heard from a relative that they have lots of electrical issues) Can you help me make an informed decision? Thank you 👍
I don't even own a Mercedes but I still received a $50 bill from Mercedes just from Watching this video.
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Last Mercedes I rode, was a stripper in Atlanta.
Bet it had some faults and was expensive too
D B lol
Was it a model with air bags?
D B
Daaaaaamn dude! 😂😂😂
Lmao
As a Mercedes-Benz owner, I approve this message. People sometimes admire my car, and say that they want one. I often discourage them.
At least your honest. Beautiful car, probably incredible driving and great interior, but just too expensive to maintain for most people including me.
It is a great car. You just have to know what you're getting into when you get one. I do most of the work on my car. The biggest and most expensive problem I've come across is the airmatic suspension. It's great in working order, but it's also a nightmare waiting to happen. I'm in the process of converting mine to a conventional suspension.
What is your opinion on a 97 clk 200 kompressor are they good cars i was thinking about getting one.
I don't know much about that model. I would suggest looking through the forums online to see some of the common problems others have dealt with.
ok thanks
I've owned the same Mercedes for 20 years, no problems. Runs fine when you are smart enough to keep up with maintenance. Almost any car is fine that way.
I owned a BMW for 6 months and it broke down three times before it ever hit 5k miles.
Any car can be a lemon or not.
Of course the guy who has a Mercedes for 20 years with no problems had a BMW that broke down 3 times in 6 months🤣
@@haggard1378 I have a 08 CLK and a 2015 bmw 550i. The 550i is running into mechanical issues at less than 50k miles that my clk started getting at 100k miles. I’d say Mercedes is more reliable
@@ak740_ not saying he’s wrong it’s just funny. I’m sure there’s a bmw guy somewhere saying the same thing
Yup both the c classes I've owned made it WAY past 200k miles, still have my second one but hit a curb and now I need airbag replacement 😪
Yup both the c classes I've owned made it WAY past 200k miles, still have my second one but hit a curb and now I need airbag replacement 😪
You are probably not used with euro cars.
1. Brake rotors edge/ridge, I haven't seen a car without them and there is no problem with the edge using oem or aftermarket brake pads, even ford mondeo has those edges here, don't really know about how they are in USA. I consider the edges helpful, you can see very easy how much of it is consumed.
2. Low profile tires enhances perceived stability and that's a plus, the owner of that mercedes has good taste (michelin pilot sport) how fat do you want the tires to be ? It isn't a van, it's a fast cruiser ( almost 400 bhp ) that can go around a bend.
3. Window system, I have a 2003 CLK with the same system, never broke. That system is used by almost all coupes. ( personally seen it on Mercedes, BMW, Renault, Lancia, VW )
4. That depreciation is the same for all expensive non-sport cars. Nobody will buy an old expensive saloon car, usually second hand buyers want a cheap car that does excellent MPG, not a large V8.
5. The prices you showed, you were not really fair, first it's OEM price and you call it a 'shock absorber' but isn't an usual shock absorber right ? CLS 550 uses air suspension, that's why it's so expensive, and it worth the money. As a hack you can buy for the price of an "air pillow" ( that's what we call them ) a full set of coil-over or normal suspension, and will solve the problem of expensive shock absorbers, but will not offer the same ride quality.
6. The errors, I think there is a good thing that they have so many 'computers' and sensors, you can know everything it happens with the car. Not every error is a problem, it is just a value or a parameter that jumped from the pre-defined 'safe' values. This way you can keep track of what's happening to your car. Most of the old cars do not have these sensors and don't 'complain' as much. Just delete the errors and see if they appear again to make sure it was not just a random spike.
You have to keep in mind, no matter the brand, a car that costs $100.000 will have components of a $100.000 car. Wrote this as a car enthusiast an a person that appeciates mechanics like you.
give me a huge bro. you are the only person talking the truth here. i just realised almost all the Americans are not car enthusiasts they just need something to take them from point A to B. Mechanics in the USA are only able to work on cheap cars like their cheap plastic Ford Chevrolet etc and other cheap Japanese cars. the problem is not about the car but is mostly about the people who drive them and mechanics who work on them. they brake the parts of the cars and then make it worst instead of repairing and then call it unreliable. new car need new tools and skills and knowledge to repair. no car enthusiasts will chose a Japanese car over German only because of cheap repairs. Europeans are the best in the automobile industry but i know there are so many haters who will try to bring them down.
Well said. I have an older Mercedes that has been well taken care of because the previous owner loved the car. Even before 100,000 miles many people beat their car up. I only take advice from people who have a similar car or who love their vehicle. Everyone who's bad mouthed Mercedes that I know personally drives a piece of junk. No offense to them, but it's true. I'm not going to listen to someone that doesn't even wash their car. I like this guys channel though.
sme i have a 2014 Lexus IS350
@@giggiesurge yea most people that talk crap about Benz has never even been in one, I've owned several and drive them like normal and do the proper maintenance and they have all lasted me a very very long time, not just that but it was much more enjoyable to drive any of the Benzes I've had than the Hyundai's, Toyotas, Hondas, even vw. Nothing feels as solid as a Mercedes and you can tell the difference if you ride in one, honestly going back into a Honda made me feel unsafe bc it feels flimsy in comparison
This is a balanced view of Mercedes Benz.
Scotty ....I cant rev up my engine.
Its seized
That RUclipsChannel Best comment lol
That RUclipsChannel, You said that you cannot rev your engine because it is seized. For your sake I hope that it isn't a newer Mercedes engine.
I loled way too hard
Reptiles DK
Gonna need at least three cans.
I laughed harder than I should have
100% correct. I work at a Benz dealer in the parts dept, and we laugh at what we charge for parts and service.
The engines rarely fail. Everything else does.
eyesoresoob yup the engines are solid but the cheap plastic and electronics is what breaks down.
well i owned several ,most very old and simple cars to maintain,but never went to a mercedes dealer or garage ,a car with 50 years old that works perfectelly ,no problems either than a litle rust .don´t understand why everybody spends so much in maintenace or why they have problems ,maybe the demands of american rules about foreign cars makes them like that, don´t forget beneath the C-class all are renaults , i have 2 SL´s ,v8 engine very old both ,but having them for more than 30 years and paid in the 80´s around 1.000 dollars for them , was the most i spent on those cars,and today they run perfectelly ,the only problem is the price of gasoline , i have a friend who owned a renault clio 1.2 L ,because are very low comsumption ,well after we went to a beach ,160 km´s from my town ,the roads are in very bad shape and lot´s of corners i went in a mercedes 190E from 87 1.8L very confortable and i spent 10 dollars less than the renault 1.2L ,this to do not talk about the confort safety and horse power compared to the renault clio, you should try a european mercedes ,regards
@ferkemall i don´t own a new mercedes but for americam market lot´s of spec´s are changed ,so maybe that´s a local problem,try to import one instead of buying american mercedes, i had to comment this ,the guy says that disk brakes are made to destroy breaking pads but he doesn´t know that is a characteristic of disk brakes since the 60´s to avoid them to be broken ,and brakes pads are not in contact with the protection ,other brands don´t have it, regards
in europe the parts department ,it´s rare to sale anything, strange.
I think they shipped the faulty ones to US , here in Germany they run very well.
Giancarlo Miguel Actually, it’s been admitted that Benzes in the US are made cheaper. A Benz made for the German market receives better parts! 😱 Too much competition in the US, so they cut corners 😡
@@Mr_Bones. I never had problems with mercedes in Germany, and besides that, they're motors are well known for bearing long mileage without problems . It's a little disappointing they don't hold the standards in us, but it's the same with Gibson guitars sell in Europe. They are good , but not has good as the ones made in U.S . And many other things .
Richard engine and transmission overall has never been an issue for MB it’s the electronics and annoying sensors that’s the biggest Achilles heel
Most likely lmao😂
@@iheartgs400 that's true I've replaced brake&wheelspeed sensors on my 2010 S550 other than that its been solid
I didn't take Scotty's advice and bought an x-type Jaguar, a month later the transmission blew, they wanted $8,000 for the fix. I trashed it. I bought a Taurus for $800, best car I've had in my life. Lesson learned.
Oh I loved the X-Type I had, but they're money pitts. Horribly put together cars.
Sometimes u need to take an Hit to learn!
Tcho2100 Boy did I learn!
maybe your an idiot who bought a british car. for the love of god people learn to lease. 1200 bucks a month goes a long way.
I feel ya. It was almost 3,000$ to replace a broken headlight
He's just helping us out and informing us, why are some of y'all getting so uptight?
I think you guys are reading waaay to deep into these videos. If it bothers you guys that much then just don't watch. It's a channel designed to primary help people fix their own cars to save money and people are more focused on his presentation.
they are trying to validate how much they spent on their cars for the illusion of quality
+Sean Taylor a Mercedes S class is the best you can get of any car the year it is.. eg a 2005 is the best of all 2005. have you seen the magic body feature? you can't kill a pedestrian.. most mercedes brake automatically so you don't hit someone if your texting driving or not paying attention (or foot slips)... they have best safety features for a crash to keep you alive, and many foreign presidents drive an armored S Guard version as it can withstand multiple grades going off simultaneously, chemical attacks, bullets etc.
not only that, but the Brabus s900 (and others) have 360 degree cameras that see all around the car and give you an overhead 360 view of everything and everyone around the car. too many features other cars don't have to list! not to mention massage seats, mood lighting, champagne fridge etc... so what's a better car..? you say a ford ?
baalpeteor those features are either dead weight, useless to most people or pointless if you aren't a complete moron. Best car is really a subjective term, I don't care much about luxuries, aircon and a radio and I'm good, I prefer performance over luxury and there are far better cars than mercs for that
+Sean Taylor if you want performance get an AMG or Brabus benz (if yiu can afford it). Brabus S900 has over 900 horsepower. I'd love to race against a bugatti veyron. AMG has twin turbos and 5.5-6+ litre engines v8-v12. the AMG ML is fastest suv on the road
Not just luxury German cars. My new Volkswagen Passat was a nightmare. Ran well for two years. Then it developed one thing after another. At 24,000 miles: water pump, various electronic maladies, headlight dimmer switch, electric trunk latch, etc, etc .
The worst car I ever bought--including 55 years of very-used cars. I was never happier to drop the lease, in spite of the $1200 hidden charge the Volkswagen dealer ripped me for. I bought a new Subaru Forester, that has been running for 12 years with no notable problems. Every time I see a Volkswagen ad I see red.
I know right! I SEE RED also when I see cars on the road that i use to own that cost me a lot of money
if shit happens and were talking Chevy/Ford/Nissan etc.... than Merk's, Benz, Rover are full on diarrhea.
All German cars aren't reliable. Super nice driving cars, but not reliable. They look nice too, that's the problem. Looks nice, drives nice, you think this is a great car. But it's not because it's not reliable.
If you want to be safe, I mean there are individual models that are safe from a lot of manufactures, but if you want to be safe, it's very hard to screw up with Subaru, Toyota, Mazda and most Hondas. Careful with Subaru before 2010 unless they've had the headgaskets redone with the multi layer metal gaskets. Almost all of them need it and unless they've already been done, it's a big $ repair. But otherwise the engines last hundreds of thousands of miles and the multi layer metal head gaskets last a very long time. It's the junk single layer metal and graphite gaskets which are hopeless.
German car are known to put a lip on the rotor . I have dealth with plenty of them ...because their brake rotors are actually softer than their pads .
I own a 1975 Mercedes 450sl. Amazing how well it runs at 43 years old. However, I have a Mercedes mechanic that tells me to NEVER buy newer models, they always have failures and are difficult to work on. Your spot on with this one and Mercedes need to go back to its fundamentals of incredibly reliable CARS not just drivetrains.
There's always two main types of car owners. People who buy cars for their reliability and cheap cost. The others not caring about long ownership and wanting sexy and fast ones. Buying a car is never a good investment anyway so why are you comparing luxury brands such as Mercedes to Toyota. Different worlds.
***** Well that's if your shocks go bad, which they won't. Mercedes parts are bullet proof. There's a reason why there are so many 1980's diesel Mercedes still left in the road today. Whoever owned this '07 CLS was a moron and didn't know how to take care of his car
Chris G You have to be joking. Shocks never go bad in an MB? Why are people changing their shocks at 80k then? Check the forums. Oh and BTW the airmatics never make it past 70k without problems. Sometimes it's from lack of maintenance but most of the time it's from too much complication and poor design and the replacement OEM parts are no better. 80s Benzes will still need maintenance BTW.
Djonkie Bonk My airmatic over 85,000 no issues, my friends airmatics both have over 130,000 miles no issues, thought I'd share a few actual experiences for you. Its not complicated or expensive to repair either if you're smart and good with your hands.
samspace81 In warm climates there's no issue. In climates that have nasty winters and where salt is used it causes issues with the Airmatic systems. My neighbor had to do all 4 airmatic struts, upper and lower control arms which included the ball joints and various bushings in the rear arms since they were squeaking in his R350. My C Class has been pretty solid but it's a much simpler car.My only concern is with the 4MATIC along with the 7 speed it has since the transfer case is no longer separate so if either component goes bad the entire unit has to be changed.
Djonkie Bonk makes me feel a little better, makes sense :)
I've owned 4 Mercedes and I love them! Best cars I've ever driven. Expensive only if you dont maintain them.
Yes I will agree. I have had a 2008 clk 550 nothing but reliable.
@@LLLLL263 I have an 07 and its been good but this vid is scary
just for the record Mercedes USED to make one of the best reliable and solid cars ever made, they used to build them like tanks in the pre 1995, now they one of the most expensive garbage you can own.
certified30
Yeah, they were top of those US reliability surveys up to around 1995 weren't they? Even the ones that come out before 2000 (the E and C-Classes) aren't bad.
certified30 *1999
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So what is? Is it the almighty Toyota, or is it whatever car is in the poster that's hanging off your bedroom wall?
Just like volvos they used to run for ever not anymore
Applekid Volvo 850 / early V70s was the last car they made that would out last most other cars made at the same time crazy considering the Germans engineered the engine on a very tight deadline.
I've been binge watching Scotty's videos and the more i listen to him, i swear it sounds like Mickey Mouse giving me car tips.
Mickey Mouse after puberty and a few whiskey shots
Sounds like bubbles from Trailer Park Boys to me.
Try Neutral Drop channel !
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@@juqnvasil6104 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm on my fourth used Mercedes. I have owned a 1976 240D, a 300SD, a 190E, and I now own a 1993 300E. I put 110,000 miles on my 1983 300SD before I retired it with 330,000 miles, and I drove my 1990 190E for six years and 80,000 miles - not bad for $2500. I've owned the 300E for two years, and it drives like a dream. Before you buy any used car, let alone an MB, you need to have a appraiser examine the car, and have the car's BOOKS AND RECORDS. If the seller will not consent to your appraiser examining the car, find another seller. I have been pleased with the durability of my older MB's, but I must say this: The current MB's are NOT the well designed and durable cars of past years. Since the wiring harness fiasco of the mid-nineties, MB has had one embarrassing design or manufacturing flaw after another. And no - I would not buy a new MB if I could afford one. The current MB's are no longer the MB's of 1980 or 1990!
YEA, old ones, they USED to make them good, I agree. But no longer
Like the issue of transmission valve bodies: You could buy rebuild kits for the older transmissions, but not for the new ones. This has created a huge amount of ill will toward MB. No matter how wealthy buyers are, nobody likes to be taken advantage of.
Robert Glotzer Yes, I can agree and confirm that the 80s German cars are excellent... 90s, too. 2000+ you should just forget about it.
I agree man, for the money they are like old Volvos...they go for a long time.
Robert Glotzer I'm looking into a 90's s class 500 what's your take on it?
I owned two Mercedes for 12 years. everything he said is true!
you shouldn't have owned any if you can't afford to maintain - its a Ferrari which in some models an oil change can cost upwards of 2-3k, if you can't afford to maintain simply don't buy it
@@mayologuerrero9339 Wrong! I have a 2015 Mercedes e350, my oil change cost $97 every 10k miles! Best car ever never had any problems with them, owner of the e class since 1992 !
Monica you misread my post
I have also owned 2 Mercedes for 12 years. First a 1998 E-class and now I am driving a 2006 E-class. The most reliable cars I have ever owned and I have been driving for 35 years.
@@mayologuerrero9339 ok
*I knew they were expensive to maintain but Christ that a lot of money*
Night Rider don’t believe a word. Did 200k in my merc. Cost virtually nothing in repairs. Yes parts cost but as they rarely fail it’s not a problem.
Night Rider don’t believe a word. Did 200k in9 years in my merc. Cost virtually nothing in repairs. Yes parts cost but as they rarely fail it’s not a problem. Didn’t even have to change the battery!
Julian Berks You’re car was probably just well maintained ..most people who complain about these cars r coming from Acura’s, Infinity’s, and or Lexus’s that have very few problems and require less maintenance compared to a Benz...there just to over engineered for my taste and depreciate too fast.👎
Julian my wife sold her E430 and it had damn near 300,000 and the guy was just as pleased..the car did not leak oil, knock or anything...in fact after my wife sold the car and switched to a Lexus she regretted it.
Night Rider thats why you can buy one for $800
Everyone has a different experience I guess. My family has owned 7 from S-classes, M-class, E-class and the only time we had to go to the dealership was on an S63 AMG one time.
As a mechanic who works on Mercedes cars, I've never understood the appeal.. or the engineering they're so damn proud of. If you want amazing engineering, buy Japanese. They haven't forgotten that the best design is often the simplest design. My 28 year old Japanese econo-box would wax this thing on a racetrack any day and it doesn't need a dozen computers or 2500 lbs of unnecessary weight to do it.
Steven Hinkle exactly lol the ISF, I think his overall better than a C 63, being naturally aspirated, reliable with controls that makes sense
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German engineering is a thing of the past!! Now they're all about making money!! The Japanese make the best cars, hands down!!!
Masters of over engineering👍👍👍
Damned right. I would love to at least own one Mercedes, but i'll drive it for a demolition derby just to see how long it'll hold together.
In the meantime, i'll continue dailying my '92 K1500 Blazer until the engine, transmission or an otherwise extremely expensive part goes on it.
This video has been banned in Deutschland, and some of the Mercedes engineers were taken out back and shot.
Carmicha3l it's actually dumb cheap Here in Germany.
Carmicha3l no it’s fucking expensive.. 1,40 € per Liter of gas, and high taxes and insurance, which is Why Even a V6 is too expensive for Most People. Europe is full of 4 cylinder and diesel Engines for a reason
That brake disc design it’s a pretty great actually! Easiest way to see how worn your brake discs are!
Haha, greetings from Germany. Mercedes Benz Mannheim.
funny joke, watching from germany. I'm not drivig german car. Toyota. Everything is more expensive that for european cars. Thanky got they are reliable... but maintenance must be done
25 problems and a Toyota ain't one
Benjamin Wiles you got that right. I have a 2007 c230 sport bought with 78,000 miles 2 years down the road. Fucken car broke down on me 6 times I had it towed. 2,000 dollars later. The ball joint popped out while I was driving. Never gain. I learn my lesson. I was so broke. I took Care of that's car. Now I have 2018 corolla s 😁
Jonathan Martinez Toyotas are assets while every other car brand is a liability 😂
Manual shift Honda's rock too.
Nil P. What about ford and dodge? Or Lexus??
Tony M Lexus is just as good, it's Toyota's luxury brand, and they're just as reliable.
The most expensive car you can get is a cheap Mercedes 😂
Ian Inman I didn’t say anything about him being able to afford it or not, I just said a cheap Mercedes is expensive. And I own a Mercedes so this is my lane 👌🏻
@@Conflxct I think you should try and get a master's degree to decipher comments
depends from model. I own w208,and it is cheap as hell,lot of parts from junkjard costs almoast nothing even for east europe where I am at,for sure,mechanics labor is mine and for free 😁 w219 as in video will be expensive,but dwpends ,for instance,fuel filter for that w219 costs aprox 20€ ,whilefor my w208 aprox 70€ ,brake pads /disks are aprox the same price..
Yes. Used mercs are cheap to buy but expensive to maintain
Dream Adidas LMAO 😂💀
As the name suggests, Kil-Mer
Kill the mercedes hahahahhahaha
OMG, lol
Ironically, Kilmer is a German name lol
I have no attachment to any of these brands but I noticed a lot of Mercedes defenders in the comments cite the fact that their own Mercedes didn't give them much trouble for years. This is called anecdotal evidence. Each owns just one of many millions of Mercedes in the world. I'm more likely to heed the words of a mechanic that worked on hundreds or thousands of cars.
God damn did I notice the same thing and was about to say the exact same thing.
@theory816 Except if it is a toyota. Toyota's are immortal and would survive in the most extreme conditions that other cars wouldnt. Its the AK of cars.
When a Mercedes owner tells you his car isn't causing them a lot of trouble you know you're dealing with a liar.
The old Mercedes were the ones that last forever, not the new ones
Very true. I owned MB earlier and my car didn't give me headaches (it was -98 c-class with 1,8l gasoline engine) and I drove it over 200k kilometers myself over the course of 8,5 years. Only reason I went with another was because well... I wanted something else :D Anyhow, it's true how people like to think that just because they didn't have problems with their car, it's an universal thing. And vice versa too. People like to trash talk about cars they've owned and how bad they were, even when majority of those cars are actually pretty solid. I have to admit I was kinda "scared" to buy that MB when I did, because I knew there could very well be lot of expensive problems. But I got it anyway (wasn't the most expensive back then actually) and was glad to see how little money went into it over its years (I did the repairs myself mostly and the parts needed weren't anything on the expensive side). And when I talk about repairs, I mean parts that wear out naturally in such an old car and weren't replaced before me (remember, I did drive it for a decent amount) and not about stuff breaking all the time, because it held up very well.
BUT that's not to say I'd go defending all MBs and how reliable they are. Because my experience was just drop in the ocean. People just think too much their personal experiences count for anything in the bigger scale. They don't. When someone says "trust me, it's from my own personal experience" I always tend to take it with a pinch of salt. One persons experience in anything is pretty much nothing compared to all there is, so to know how MBs (for example) really are, you gotta look at the statistics and do a bit of research to know what they actually are and not just trust some MB fanboy/hater.
I liked my MB. It was a good car (not so much during the winter tho, because of rear-wheel crap, which is just complete nonsense here in Finland during nasty cold winters). It was reliable car and didn't cost me all that much during its lifetime with me. It was nice to drive around and the fuel consumption was very nice (6,5 liters/100 kilometers in highway speeds was ok for such an old car with over 350k kms on it). Would I say all MBs are as reliable and cheap to maintain? Hell no. My brother also owned MB and he always complained how expensive it was (even switched to Hyundai just because the parts were cheaper, but eventually got another MB again). And that wasn't the only "MBs are expensive to repair/maintain" person I knew. So you could say that in MY personal experience I had it easy, while most people I knew and who owned an MB didn't :D
Would I buy MB again? Yeah sure I suppose, even with all the risks involved. I know you could get monday-edition from different cars... could get some bad-luck-toyota or something so the statistics wouldn't matter on a personal level then (about what's more reliable car). Car is always a risk, anything could go wrong with it and even when you seek out those statistically most reliable, stuff happens.
That's why I buy cars more on the "feeling" side, and don't worry about "what's the most reliable car you can own" that much. I do my research when buying a car to know what there is to expect and the like, so if something breaks it wouldn't be THAT big of a surprise. I like to know what I'm buying anyway so it's only natural process to know beforehand...
So am I defending MB with this wall-of-text? Not really. Just defending my own MB I had :P And that doesn't mean I'm stupid enough to think all MBs are as reliable or cheap to maintain just because "my personal experience" with 1 of those MBs was good.
...and now that I think about it, why did I even wrote this whole thing anyway :'D I guess when you just woke up and your brain started to function again after sleep, you get lost into typing some stupid youtube comment while drinking your coffee... sorry about that :P
I own a mercedes c230 for the past 3 years and my check engine been on ever since, i think it comes with the car or something
Own a C230K too, really nice car, if you know a good workshop, it's not at all expensive to own.
I own a 2005 C230 and it’s well kept just gotta take it to the small shops that specialize in German vehicles and they can make sure it’s always tip top.
So I see you opted for the ambient lighting package
Buy an inexpensive scanner. I got one on sale $49.99. Save yourself a fortune. The check engine light should not be ignored.
Have a 97 c230 non kompressor with 216k miles no issues at all 😁
The rich buy them new with the warranty, the suckers buy them afterwards.
really? Then why does most of Europe and Africa use them as taxis?
@@spokebloke1 Nobody wants to sit in a crappy Toyota when they're already paying too much for the taxi ride anyways
@@spokebloke1 they are made well in Europe, the American versions are trash.
The older versions were great but the new ones are white elephants.
@@spokebloke1 Those are cheap, old, and manual Mercedes. They would at most cost $500 USD which makes them practical in less fortunate countries.
There is an old man which lives where I live, he bought his mercedes new in 1974, still drives today, not clutch problems, engine failures or anything. Has something around 1,2 million km on it.
Ya I bet it has electrical problems though. European cars from the 70s are electrical nightmares. Im sure it still drives though.
I think that's the majority of car makes, including BMW. Cheaper parts = more cost saving for them. Newer cars will only last so long before they begin to deteriorate. I've seen older 80's Volvos and Bimmers who's leather seats are still in one whole piece. Yet most early 2000's E39's I see- their interiors look like something fierce.
I had an '81 and an '89. Both were problems from the second week of ownership and both had very high quality maintenance.
mercedes were good back then before they started putting all the computer modules on them
Perhaps.
I've owned a Merc for 6 years & the car itself is now 30 years old, I've had very little trouble with it & it has been easy to work on myself, getting parts cheaply has never been a problem(just don't go through the dealership, or chain auto parts stores), there are no shortage of specialist parts suppliers with good prices.
Depends, w201s & w124s were over engineered & were expensive to build & buy when new, then came economic rationalism at Mercedes & the replacements for the w201 & w124 were built in South America & the quality did suffer, but then a w202 was in some cases literally half the price a same specced w201 was 10 years earlier, in the mid 2000s they learnt their lesson & moved production back to Stutgart & these cars are apparently pretty decent but I think the ease of self service is probably gone.
Yeah mine is w201 Diesel, the odo is frozen at 283,000 km & it was nearly 5 years ago the odo froze so it's probably well over 300,000 km now, I've done ball joints, suspension bushes, brake disks, rebuilt calipers, filters, & changed the injector overflow lines, that's all it's needed so far.
You only drive 3 months out of the year?
Who are you talking to & what are you on about?
+netonentchev I own the c63 amg, No problem so far.
Can you make a video on American cars overall reliability?
Brian Fortiz IIRC, he's complained about American car reliability too. The difference is when people think luxury cars, they don't think American. So when you buy an American car you aren't spending $60,000+ for it. I don't think Scotty would be complaining as much if the Mercedes were cheaper, or at least was built to last. If you want a luxury car more worth your money, go for Lexus or Acura - those things just don't die and are more serviceable.
Peter Schmidt I know that. I don't mean American Luxuries, I mean Americans cars OVERALL...
Brian Fortiz
Right - like I said, they're not worth as much. It's an easier bullet to bite spending $15-$35k on an American car you know will eventually break down (and is cheaper to repair) vs a $70k Merc. When you pay a premium price you should expect premium quality and premium ride. The Merc is mostly just a premium ride.
Peter Schmidt
***** It's because people just want the luxury aspect of a car. Let's be honest, the average American doesn't pay complete attention to reliability when buying a car. My brother bought three Mercedes fresh off the dealership, and about five years later (after 5 years of well maintence) it would repeatedly break down just 120k miles in. Not sure if it had any problems in between that five year period though. Also, people assume that Germans are reliable, because they invented cars.
2012 MB E350 W212: Bought it for cash under Blue Book wholesale w/ 105,000 miles. Replaced some hoses, brake pads, motor mounts, evap canister. Kept up the PM's and drive it easy. Now at 220,000 ish miles and still driving like it's almost new. Best car I've ever owned! But, I agree, they'll rip you off at the dealer on parts!!!
Oh dear.
Ridges on the brake rotors? Yes, but this does NOT mean that you have to replace a rotor. You replace rotors when they reach the wear limit. Usually one MB rotor lasts through two sets of pads. New pads will not be affected by an existing ridge (and no, they won't squeal on account of it either) because they are of the exact same dimensions as the previous ones. Generally, MB brakes are among the best OE brakes you will find on any car.
Depreciation? This happens on EVERY CAR, on every luxury car in particular, and MBs actually fare better in this regard than most other manufacturers.
Recessed lug bolts (yes, BOLTS, NOT lug nuts!)? Why should this be a problem? Torque them properly every time as you should, and you will NEVER have a problem!
Error codes: yes, they can be a nuisance--on ANY modern car with lots of computers.
Sum total of this clip: lots of noise, very little substance.
+YUTBOUE SKUCS
He's simply trying to pile up the price of everything so that he can make a false point. Rotors can be resurfaced with minimal costs, and you do not replace the rotors and brake pads at the same time. You hardly need to replace rotors.
+Omar Awad Right--although I think he genuinely believes in what he says. He has apparently been working on his own for a long time. Such people oftentimes adopt a know-it-all attitude in spite of their actually quite limited expertise.
It should be noted, however, that it is not only unnecessary to resurface rotors with ridges, but that MB explicitly advises against resurfacing rotors. In fact there is actually an advantage to the ridges: if you have a bit of experience, they allow you to judge the remaining service life of the rotor without even taking the wheel off. MB rotors last a long time, although at some point they, too, need to be replaced. The front rotors that I just replaced on my MB (alongside the pads) had done 100,000 miles.
Admit you got ripped off dude. Your MB is a pos.
+Arun R. You mean a pos[er car]? No, MBs are a very common sight where I live. And at 211,000 miles, my well-maintained MB (for which I paid rather little, in part thanks to misconceptions like those propagated by this video) performs splendidly, thank you very much.
+YUTBOUE SKUCS yeah - all cars depreciate. but depreciate to 20% of their original value in 8 years? I bought a $14,000 Ford ranger in 2004. it has 96K on it and I could sell it to 5 different people tomorrow for $7,000. and the "check engine" light has never come on, and I've spent less than $1,000 total replacing parts over the years (one set of tires, one battery, ball joints - did those myself.) other than that, just oil changes (which I do myself.) a good rule of thumb is never buy a model used that you couldn't afford to buy new.
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Max Wooden Well that sucked.
+Maz Wooden Actually the new Mercedes are pretty reliable cars. They are more reliable than any US car. > 3.bp.blogspot.com/-mwNsg9ZLIZk/WK6HLZZmIGI/AAAAAAAAjns/OTsH9xRrh-oVoo1_Wi7gAMfAfn0-ysqOgCLcB/s1600/Vehicle-Dependability-Study--5.jpg
Max Wooden true
GENIUS! :)
attention, if you make over $100,000 a year this video is not for you.
LOL. Depends on your liabilities.
+Orlando Streets the reason I said that is because some rich people who got money to burn on damm cars are arguing in comment when this video clearly don't apply to them matter fact if you rich this channel is not for you.this channel supposed to help you fix your car by yourself to save money and give car advice like this video for example.
hardyman
A lot of people we think are rich are in reality deep in debt. I used to know a guy who drove around in an old beater Buick station wagon. It turned out, he was one of the richest guys around. The point is, you just never know if someone is really rich, or poor. That was my point.
i see your point but my point was that this video was put up to inform people what to expect when dropping a lot of money on a Benz. the biggest thing for me is losing $63,000 in 8 years (i think that a big deal)
hardyman
Losing $63,000 is a big deal. You got that right!
Love my 1998 Mercedes Wagon..constantly piling on the miles ..so far nothing but reliable, tough service...the older mercs are solid.
Thats when Mercedes made good cars.. that year Chrysler bought Mercedes, and thats when it went down hill....
@@itsmerose2741 Chrysler didn't buy Mercedes. Mercedes bought Chrysler, called it a merger.
Same difference... electrical components where crap after that. they should of merged Chrysler with a trash can.
@@itsmerose2741 It's literally not the same, like, at all.
yeah
just close your eyes and imagine mickey mouse...
Edward Bennett lol
OMG hahahahaha
mickey mouse on meth, evicted from its house, dragged by the ears.
Edward Bennett it work 😂
Daaaaaamn hahaha it's truth, hahaha, like a ragged out Mickey 😂
Everyone can hate on Scotty, but he is just simply looking out for the workingman. A lot of folks dream of owning European cars because they are nice. Unfortunately some folks just don't have that kind of money to throw on a vehicle. I'm one of those guys, I owned a 2008 Audi A4 and it was a headache, not because I couldn't afford the parts, but because it was not fun knowing that my money was going towards repairs instead of customizations. Now I own a 2010 Toyota Camry and people can call it boring or an average Joe car, but it's the Best damn vehicle I have ever owned. It's sporty, fast, comfortable, and very cheap to repair. Japanese cars are the way to go. Lexus, Honda, Acura, Toyota, Nissan, Infinity 💯
LOL Infinity hahaha, you say poorly made Nissan (if that's even a compliment....)
My story is the same! I had a 2005.5 Audi A4 3.2 and I hated the fact that every other month it needed a repair and I got sick of not driving it so I got a Honda Accord Sport, and now there are no more headaches. 2016 probably costed $100 in maintenance just for a single oil change.
because the window regulator always fails and you cant tape it temporarily to fix it.
The main problem with Infiniti is that they share platforms and components with cars from European luxury brands, because they want to be the Japanese BMW, but know that no badge snob will ever admit that anything without a BMW badge on it drives as well as one. They can build a car as good as a BMW, but it won't matter, because the main component of superior BMW performance is the badge, so nobody will ever prefer something with an Infiniti badge, even if it had the engine of a Bugatti Veyron. Their solution to that, rather than outengineer BMW and Mercedes so nobody can deny that the Infiniti is at least as good, was to source platforms and components from German brands to convince people that they have a bit of "pedigree."
They thought that Mercedes infotainment, AMG suspension, and a BMW audio system would make badge snobs believe that the Infiniti is actually BMW. Not just as good as BMW, they wanted to literally be Japanese BMW, and attract BMW fans who can't look past the badge by making them think the Q50 is actually an M5. In reality, of course it didn't work, and what ended up happening was that the European components introduce European unreliability and repair costs. Infiniti used to be as reliable as any other Japanese brand until about 8 years ago, then they decided to stop engineering their own cars. Hopefully they heed the now nearly nonexistent sales and fix that problem soon, but knowing Nissan, they'll probably pull all R&D, stop advertising, then complain 5 years later that nobody knows about Infiniti and cancel the brand, like they did with the Gen4 Quest.
TexasBoyJc in what world is a 2010 camry sporty and fast ?
I've got 99 problems but a Mercedez ain't one (can't afford one :,v )
legendario13 Well then you certainly won't be able to maintain one.
"Mercedez"... típico idiota.
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hit me!!! lmaoooo
Back in 85 for my 30th birthday I bought a mint looking 1976 450SL with 11,800 miles on it. I drove it to the nearest dealer to get the oil changed, basic motor tune up/service check over (just because the car had sat in a garage and only drive 500 miles in almost 5 years. I also replaces the battery.
Now this was 1985 > the battery (which of course was in the trunk) $215, the tune up (and their was nothing wrong) $435 ... the oil change was $115 > not sure if that was cheaper than normal because of the other service check I had done ... anyway, I learned quickly I could afford to buy the car > wasn't sure I could afford to own it.
It's not a horrible design... It's a very clever one... for the company... I think they win more money from repair costs than from the cars themselves...
Agree
ALL automakers make more from repair parts than from the original sale.
The average manufacturer profit margin on a new car is around 10% (and dealers tend to be around the same level - this is why they pressure you into extras which have more margin in them. Margins in secondhand are much larger)
Mercs are improving from their quality nadir of the early 2000s but the things that need to be understood with complex electronic systems are that:
1: If multiple faults are showing there's almost always a common cause. Don't just go mindlessly replacing modules "because computer says so" because the odds are pretty good you'd end up with the same faults.
2: The most unreliable part of ALL cars is not the electronics. It's the wiring - specifically the plugs and sockets. Stress fractures on flexing cables, bad earths and Water in connectors cause more problems than pretty much everything else combined - and when you get stupid designs like VW's engine control module in the footwell under the carpet you have a problem waiting to happen the first time a window is left open in the rain.
In the case of that many faults the first thing to cheak is that everything is earthed correctly. As an example of how odd things can get, Nissan Primera P12 hachbacks tended to develop bad earths in the taillight cluster connector which would cause issues ranging from cruise control intermittently shutting down to the engine computer going into limp-home mode (and a lot of things in between). Fixing that problem solves everything - Nissan have issued 3 recalls for this problem but stealerships never did the repair work properly)
As I've previously mentioned the last time I saw a merc with this many problems (a 280C), it turned out to be a bad thermostat fooling the computer into thinking there were dozens of faults. Replacing it allowed the engine to warm up properly and all the faults went away. The owner had spent $3000 replacing everything the computer said was faulty, but hadn't managed to fix it (Merc thermostats are about $70).
When it comes to repairing cars, being a mechanic is no longer good enough. You need to be a technician with a good understanding of the way electronics and electrical systems work. Blindly replacing parts benefits nobody - the customer pays more and your reputation will be shot when the faults aren't cleared.
Because of the electrical issues, many European makers have gone firstly to sealed connector blocks (O-ring seals, etc) and more recently to grease-filled connectors (which have been used by telcos for decades in outside plant - water can't fill a void that's already fillled with something else) and the Japanese makers have followed suit.
BE VERY CAREFUL when dealing with grease-filled connectors. Don't remove any of the grease and always repack them when reassembling. DO NOT USE SILICON GREASE to repack the connector - under any circumstances.
If you use silicon grease in electrical connectors you WILL end up with major problems long-term due to copper/silicon ion migration and the only long-term-viable repair method is to chop the connectors out entirely & replace them with new ones. Don't use automotive grease to pack a connector as many of these are conductive. There are specific greases for electrical connectors. Don't be tempted to bodge in a substitute.
Mine did - and older volvos are "unique" enough that you don't want to let non-specialists near them.
Alan Brown I am more than happy with my 1994 w124 300D... Immortal car, had it since my father bought it back then and only serviced in MB.... ~1 300 000 kilometers and still in perfect condition... AMAZING car (if you take good care of it)
I really think the big three had the same business model until the Japanese made them at least think about long term reliability. I remember the early 80s American cars and they were horrible. They were clearly made to last just as long as they could possibly get away with lasting. My parents had three cars, two chevys and a ford and most of the time one was in the shop and sometimes two were in the shop. They had three so they could at least have one to get to work. Luckily they worked at the same place or we would have had to have four cars.
8.8k Mercedes owners didn't like this video
MCES LEX duhh lol And that number you gave is exactly what their Mercedes is worth it today after they paid 60 K for it three years ago
Keye T Jealousy looks bad on you!
Hallei Ibin yes,, why can my Lexus depreciate that fast,,, so not fair,,, you mercedes owners are hogging up all the depreciation AND mechanics.... SHARE!! lmaoo😂😂
Keye T Mercedes owner here 03 M-Class never had any major issues just regular maintenance and only had to change the tires every 6 years. Lexus always have major issue like catching fire! Hahaha You can have the Fire starter Lexus! Hahaha
Hallei Ibin you must have lexus mixed up with BMW LMAOO
I love Mercedes Benz but I would never thumbs down this video, because it is 100% accurate.
I’ve put 171k miles on my 2010 e350 never had any issues just did maintenance and took care of this car still drives like brand new
Seriously! I Owen a 2012 C6.3 AMG as long as you keep up with maintenance as you should with any car it will last longer then any domestic vehicles. My brother in law still drives his 1970 c230 with no problems.
I’ve had a 2002 Mercedes cl500 and the engine is absolutely flawless, the only issues I’ve had was the abc, I did the fix myself and I had little mechanical experience at the time
Ppl who can’t afford regular maintenance have these problems
But his point is for ppl who either can’t or ain’t spend that much
@@amunRa95 then people who can't afford maintenance or can't fix it shouldn't be buying these cars used.
Going back about 25 years ago, and before that, for decades ,they were wonderful cars, and a great company that made every kind of vehicle superbly .
like all luxury vehicles, rich people lease them and get rid of it before they fix it at all.
this is the most intelligent way.
thats the trick
common sense aint common
I'm not sure intelligent is the correct word there. They lessen the ass screwing but they don't get away scott free. Not unless they can drink a lot of free coffee and gobble high end snacks when they wait in the lounge during service. But most upper middle class people don't gobble that stuff so Mercedes is still coming out ahead.
The 3 years lease/own option means the rich don't have to deal with the problems as they get rid of the cars just as the 3 year warranty expires and/or it needs it 1st MOT (UK safety vehicle check on cars, I only post this in case non-UK people don't know the acronym MOT). Overall the lease/own option is costly, but you do get a brand new car every 3 years with all the new bells and whistles & latest technology. So, apart from cost (which the rich do not care about), this is an intelligent way to keep up appearances and always have the new toys to show off.
lowriec Yep. Aside from the fact here most leases are 10,000 to 12,000 miles per year and I drive 20,000. And I keep my cars going as long as I can, primary driver is over 300,000 miles and still 20,000 per year. It's strange though, rich people tend not to be wasteful with money but they are throwing away a lot of money even on the lease plan. Less than buying though. I guess most of them don't do much more than sit in traffic on the way to their 60 hours a week jobs and sit in traffic on the way home. Maybe a nice drive on the weekend.
Scotty this has got to be one of the most entertaining video's I've watched from you. I could tell you were holding back your laughter while recording it. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the support!
Jerson, I agree! Check out the comment I just left! Scotty was trying so hard not to lose his shit! Bahahahahahaha!!!
I had a 2001 s430 for over 10 years had over 300,000 miles on it after I sold it and it was an amazingly comfortable and reliable car. There was a lot of interest when I sold it, I was shocked! In the end there were a few minor issues I didn't want to bother fixing, but overall was an excellent purchase and I'm going to be a repeat s class buyer. It had far fewer issues than my previous American cars for sure and was super easy and affordable to maintain.
I had an 2003 e320 and it was sooo comfotable and bulletproof. The older Mercedes are better built than the newer ones. I'd say they started to change around 2007-2008. They were still reliable but more technology equals more problems.
Same here. 2011 C300. Best car our family has ever had.
I have a 2003 E500 and it refuses to die. Factory air suspension lasted 165,000 miles, and I’m currently replacing it with coilovers for sportier handling. (Although the air suspension does a fine job of sports handling, it’s too unreliable, so traditional coil conversions as well as track ready coilover kits readily exist on the open market).
Mine, I paid $1,700 for and it came with a factory set of Mandrus wheels worth as much as I paid for the car as well as the factory split 5 spoke wheels.
It’s no more complicated to work on than a modern dodge charger/challenger. (Which share their chassis and suspension architecture with my car).
That window going up and down feature was in my 2008 mustang so I don't know why you're criticizing it
***** "Because it's nonsense that's why." no....it isn't...it actually DOES wear out the rubber on them....I have seen it so many times it is ridiculous...on convertables it is one of the highest wear parts on the car...I don't know why he was showing 3 different cars in this video...
"One of my vehicles is a 1997 Chevy S-10 ( a cheap auto) and the windows seals are as good as new. In fact all the weatherstripping is like new." because it isn't a convertible -facepalm-
seriously look at this morons video again...the car with the window going down an inch is even a different color HAHAHAHA!!!! You can see the other car in the reflection of the first one
Chris G Also Audi TT does this too
I have an 08 as well. even without the battery,you can open and close the door fine, you just need to push on the window a little. the trick is to let the Germans test tech and then put it in American cars when its worth a shit.
+Chris G Yeah I always thought it was so the door was easier to close. Pointless really but it's never broken on mine so whatever
Chris G Yep, got that on my Bullitt.
My wife had her 95 Mustang into the dealer a bunch of times when it was new because the door wouldn't close right. She was first told nothing was wrong with it and then told by someone else at the dealership that it was a design flaw. Making sure the window was down a touch solved the problem.
I can only say Mercedes is the best car you can own, sure it's not cheap to fix, but in you know the dealers, you can get parts for 2 or 3 times less the money Mr Kilmer showed. This is european car, for the european roads, it's ment to be driven on good clean roads. Finally, let's not forget that, this "overengeneering" of Mercedes is the reason why we have ABS, Airbags, heated seats. I am not the biggest fan of complicated cars, but it's the future of automotive industry, in you want something cheap and reliable, you can always get a wagon with horses.
+Ivan Ivanov whoa, we have a russian who believes propaganda. No surprise there.
First, I'm not russian, second, I believe that cars work best, where they were meant to be driven, small asian cars work best in Asia, big muscle cars and pickup trucks work best in the US, and sedans (like the Merc or BMW) and got hatches (Golf, Peugeot 308 etc.) are best for the Europe. There is no bad car, just not the right conditions, if you came to Europe with a Ford F-150, you'll be the laughing stock on the street, and since you mentioned Russia, try starting a Chevy Camaro at -40C.
+Ivan Ivanov You do know the Camaro has been made I Canada up until this last year, and at -40 I don't even plug my chey in using synthetic oil! My Chevy runs +39C -45C in Canada with no problems on a 2009
+Douglas Millar ps my car cost $10400 CND about $9000 USD how much does that work out to a year?
Well, that's great, I'm glad that they're making good cars, maybe I didn't made the best example :)
Have had three Mercs over 30 years, Have had only two break downs. due to me skimping on the servicing and trying to save money... would I buy a Merk.? yes, every time.
you either have large pockets for the insanely high Merc dealer maintenance, or are lying. I, on the other hand, had a toyota , one car, for 30 years and it never broke down on me during that time. ONE CAR that cost a ton less. I now have all that money in the bank that you wasted on 3 mercs.
+Scotty Kilmer do you necessarily have to go to a dealer to fix your car or can you gt a jiffylube or walmart? Also, is bmw more reliable than Mercedes? is a 2011 m3 reliable?
NO modern german car is reliable over time. And all german cars require expensive tools and computers to work on correctly, you're nuts taking one to a walmart, even for oil changes, cause if they screw up the oil drain bolt, it can cost a thousand bucks for a new oil pan
my great uncle buys a new mercedes sport ute and a new chevy suburban every year or 2. of course he's also a multimillionaire. most people can't afford to buy $100k worth of new cars every 2 years.
+Scotty Kilmer ... or you could jb weld it shut if the bolt won't go back In , and just use the vacuum method of changing oil from the top of the engine (where you add oil). cheap fix
People still don't get Scotty channel goal? He is educating you all not waste money on car that will be money sink. Fanatics of Mercedes are mad for common sense.
i think everyones missing the point of this video. scotty is saying that the new mercedes are designed to empty your wallet. he never said anything about the old mercedes. of course the old mercedes were better. almost all the older cars from every manufacturer were better. New cars are made to break down and cost you more money, with the exception of honda and toyota.
300D & C line are stable classics, but the S class is filled with a history of nightmarish quirks...
Morngo Vlogs No, toyotas and hondas aren't the exception
Absolutely fucking absurd. NO. Old cars were not "better" . Simpler or primitive in comparison? Yes. But by no means better. And NO. none of the new cars are "designed to empty your wallet". Old cars are much more unreliable, unsafer, worse for the environment.and the list goes on. Anyone who thinks older cars are better either can't afford a new one or they are a complete moron. I own a 1970 Dodge Challenger 440 R/T convertible. I love it. It's a great car. Is it better than a new Challenger? Hell fuck no.
Steven Hamilton they definitely look better, and most of them were made better too
Steven Hamilton Chrysler products were always crap bad comparison compare a toyota then and now always Bulit to last as long as they can you only buy performance cars because you like them not to last or save you gas.
I do my own maintenace. I've owned many cars from different makes, including Japanese, and they all had a ridge, eventually, on the disc brakes. That's to say I've never seen a brake pad cover the whole disc. I don't know where you get this nonsense that you have to replace the brake pads with the disc brakes whenever that happens.
Unless the disc wears out below the minimum thickness recommended by the manufacturer, regardless of ridge or not, there's no need to replace the disc.
Also, complaining about low profile tyres on a performance car? Seriously? You're full of it.
Tell him my boy🤝🏾
cope, he's been working on cars for longer than you've been alive
@@Jeyeyeyey i doubt it.
In Sweden its still really common driving around in older cars from the 80s or 90s. Especially Volvos there are just so many of Them so they are really cheap and last forever. Old Mercedes you se as well.
+HillMeister's HQ YES, OLD is the crucial word there. They USED to make great vehicles, but no longer. Including volvo.
+Scotty Kilmer I think the 80s-90s i kinda the sweetspot for cars. Not too old fashioned but still reliable. I used to have a celica myself.
+Scotty Kilmer gotta get with the times. drive honda
+Scotty Kilmer I purposefully bought an old 1997 Volvo 850R Wagon because 1) its the last year actually built in Sweden2) I am not a mech wizard by any means but I can do most of the stuff myself3) Its really not expensive to work on this carLove your channel and just subscribed, thanks for all the info
+Joshua Brown i had a 94' volvo 850 turbo. fast as hell
Just bought an ‘04 S211 E55 AMG. Rear disks and pads were a 1/3 of what I paid for my M3. I do all the work myself, and most of the big bills have been paid by someone prior to me... might explain the 8x previous owners...
Ford Mustangs have that little "weather-stripping saving" maneuver....
Cody Munday it’s actually because the Mustang has pillarless doors. His Celica doesn’t have the pillarless doors, which is why it doesn’t have the window go down slightly when you open the door
Buy a Corolla with a manual transmission
And get it ls swapped or 2jz
HACHI ROKU
Saurav Sen my 1zzfe runs great in my 2004. 38 mpg and plenty of power. 220,000 miles no oil leaks or drips
I bought a Manual with a Corolla transmission...
and fill your life with misery
I'm a mechanic and a Mercedes owner. In fact, I've owned a few of them, and when I was traveling over the road for my job on a regular basis, I managed to put over a quarter of a million miles on two of them.
Maintenance was more expensive than other cars, yes, And there was the occasional expensive repair. Worth it? EVERY PENNY. A Chevy Impala or a Toyota don't provide that level of comfort or safety. Plus I can repair it myself. They're not that complicated, they're just DIFFERENT.
Actually, until the very most recent generations, Mercedes interiors were very simple and basic, and had very few gimmicks or unnecessary items.
Buy a certified preowned if you're scared of the repair bills...
.... ALL vehicles are expensive to repair today.
My Honda had its first repair when it was 12 years old, a hose, 90 bucks installed.
Dude cracks me up every time. I'm amazed he has almost 6 million subscribers. His advice is basically sound... and he knows how to play people, for sure. Dude is a master marketer and excellent at belittling those with money.
He’s the most helpful honest mechanic out there . Ur full of 💩
The problem with German cars ain't the engines it's the parts around the engine that usually suck
Man, how can you not love this guy he's great XD
I like the content, but I hate being yelled at all the time.
Jim R "JIM GO WASH THE DISHES ALREADY!!!"
cougar351 LOL. Yeah, like that....
His low testosterone is not only making him hate a powerful Mercedes Benz that was owned by a drug dealer that never maintained it (25 problems, and a ho ain't one of them), it's making his voice turn into one of a little school girl. LMMFAO!
you know nothing about the human male body. If I had low testosterone I wouldn't have two sons and would not be losing my hair. And if you're trying to be a comic, hope you have a day job.
Welcome to the world of German (and European) car ownership. After owning several German cars I have gone back to Japanese brands, now my cars don't go wrong and are cheap to maintain. This German superior engineering is a con.
I agree
finally someone smart!! but dont tell anyone its a secret
Well, here in Europe a Mercedes will run like a dream. The problem is your infrastructure. US roads have so many potholes and are made of concrete. A Mercedes isn't built for roads like that. You'll spend a fortune on maintenance, so Scotty is right. I would go for a Japanese or US brand if I would live in the States. Cheaper to maintain and primitive technology that is able to handle the way rougher roads. Oh, and a US built mercedes isn't the exact same design as a European one. They are built in Mexico and actually a little cheaper to produce because of different safety and environmental regulations.
Waarom? Your analysis is incorrect, it is more than a US thing, the cars are poorly engineered and often poorly built. I don't live in the US and in any case in the UK Benz do not rate well in reliability surveys. Mercedes has cheapened their product and it shows.
The more there is the more can go wrong
Good points if you pay full price for a new Mercedes. I bought a 9 year old car with low mileage (36k) and a good maintenance history. I believe the trick is to find an older Mercedes with a good maintenance history thru carfax.
Also, Mercedes usually gives you the first two years of free maintenance and typically folks that purchase new Mercedes have money and used the dealer foe all maintenance.. thus having a reliable record... my 2c
Exactly. Those are the cheat codes my friend. You need to buy your car from someone who loved it and is willing to let go of it. Not someone who beat their car and is trying to get a quick cash grab.
@@giggiesurge yup that's how I've gotten 2 perfectly fine c classes that never gave me issues, still have the second one that runs like new at 250k even after an accident
Scotty, perhaps you shouldn't be talking about things you don't understand? IN GERMANY you get to change your brake pads MAXIMUM two times. The first time you will find a ridge on the outside circumference of the disk as wear indicator and to tell you when you HAVE TO change the set of brake components. NEW PADS WILL FIT INTO THE ORIGINAL WEAR PATTERN. When you brake down from 255km/h it is imperative that the brakes can handle it, so they match pads and disks and make them squeal ON PURPOSE, so you change them before you can't stop the car reliably anymore....I used to work for BMW Germany btw. Same wear characteristics, we used to file down a bit of the sharp edge of the new pads though and brake it in hard prior to handing the car to the client. As for the error codes, it is normal to see a few stored on a CAN-BUS system, can be voltage spikes, resistance changes, hiccups or miscommunication for split seconds, no worry's on most of them.
oBseSsIoNPC That's a load of crap. Why would the engineers design it to squeal to indicate the pads will need changing? That's what the wear indicator is there for so that if the pads are down to the metal it completes the circuit which will trigger the warning on the readout inside the car. I changed the pads and rotors on my C Class because they were pulsating when I pushed on the brakes to reduce the speed of the car from higher speeds. If I just changed the pads like the fanboys say to do then the rotors would have etched whatever messed up pattern it had into the pads and I'd be down there replacing both very soon anyway.
Djonkie Bonk engineers don't just rely on the electronic wear indicator, they have failed us plenty before....
Careful man, your are talking logically. Scotty doesn't understand logic. Most people who hate German cars don't understand logic.
Congratulations on addressing one of his points. Got anything else?
+Djonkie Bonk The squealing brake feature does exist outside of German cars, my Dad's old 1997 Plymouth Voyager had them. It's a way to tell the driver his/her brake pads need replaced, but without computers. They're designed so the squealing device only scrapes part of the rotor (or whatever is is they scrape) that won't be touched by the brake pad, and only when the pads are low enough.
illll just stick with my Honda beater
Me too! It's not like a have a choice.
Miguel Manzanares yeah but there indestructible just change the oil and have them oil sprayed and it will last forever
Steviedee 73 They are indestructible because they spend more time in the repair shop than on the road.
are you referring to hondas or mercedes.
nitebluesky I believe he is referring to it in the sense that it is an old car that he can beat on with minimal or normal maintenance, hence the term "beater".
This guy hurts my brain and hates Mercedes more than his wife.
I love my wife of 38 years, and have been fixing cars 48 years. Mercs were great cars in the sixties, but no more.
maybe no more in usa (second quality merc, whole world know that), european are still great cars
***** nope
Kind of tasteless comment. Bringing the wife is just a no
@Pan Balagan, if you claim to have knowledge about Mercedes cars please state your age, how long you own a mercedes for, which model, how far you drove it, how many problems you had.
I am a Mercedes enthusiast and it makes me sad to see these cars becoming more and more useless, having more and more useless gadgets, completely ruining a legendary brand. Even the AMG models aren't about performance anymore, now they are all status symbols. And because of people like you who believe so hard in the image of this reliable, over-engineered (in a good way, not in a bad way as explained in the video) status symbol they can go on producing overpriced bullshit. Just look how many SUVs they sell nowadays, it has nothing to do with engineering, reliability, or any of these important matters anymore. It's all about the image now.
The key to owning MB is shopping around for parts. Most people here are dumb af if your getting them at dealership I have zero sympathy for you and also finding a competent mechanic that know what he/she is doing.
dswarriors depends on certain parts I mean there places like FCP Euro prices are reasonable. You can’t expect cheap prices for luxury cars parts lmafo. So much resources out there again no need to depend on dealership.
@dswarriors who buys parts at a brick and mortar anymore? I buy ALL my parts whether it be my Honda or my Benz, online for way cheaper
Totally.
I have used RockAuto in the U.S as the go to for all auto parts, and has often meant the difference in me being able to own a car that i otherwise would not have been able to.
@Terry Melvin not 100% true. Just remember these Mercedes uses Torx sockets/bits. The parts are straight forward sometime you going to need special key sockets or tool like releasing the struts from the springs. There are (2) pins in the calipers that need to be punched out to remove the brake pads, etc. Maybe you will need STAR tool but my iCarsoft tool is just good enough.
like a family mechanic
The best Mercedes, Diesel W123, all mechanical.... No computers.
@ferkemall lol
M135 engines are pretty good to
1. Dont buy a used Mercedes 2. Dont get stuff done at the dealership 3. If you're going for a luxury vehicle don't expect everything to be cheap... BTW I have a 2001 ML and it still runs smooth with minimal issues over the years
goodfella21f Yeah we just took care of it like it was always a new car... I've now started dropping money into it, but thats for performance upgrades (race brakes, tires, rims, coilovers, exhaust, etc.) But overall its only recently had one radiator leak and it had one window motor malfunction... but thats it for problems these 17 years its been alive lol
Sure. Hook your Mercedes up to a code reader like Scotty’s
Wade 1 Thats been done before
Mercedes have amazing engines and they will have problems but will start twenty four seven and never leave you stranded if it’s well taken care off and their easy to fix can change the water pump without doing a timing change ..
Ml trucks are amazing
Lol ...buy a Honda and laugh at any merc owner .
Dont rice it tho
+Charles-David Bérubé yea but it'll be running 20 years from now when your Mercedes is scrap
+Charles-David Bérubé wait for $300 oil change
this is proof that you don't know enything about german cars. my audi is 14 years old and at the audi garage, the mecanic said the car looked almost like a 3 years old car and it has 170 000 km. its far from being scrap. but if i look at 2002 hondas, they are almost all sounding like shit or the paint is cooked by the sun. so in fact, a german is more durable but costs more. its a choice, pay more for more or pay less for less.
+Charles-David Bérubé pay less for more when you buy Japanese brand cars
The secret with these and all cars is to be able to do most of the repairs yourself, and don't buy any parts from the dealer, ever.
mglsite i own a 07 c230 n from the payments on the repairs i already knew that the repairs n manual labor costs were gone be high thats why i already decided to do the repairs myself im only 17 but a lil bit of youtube videos on how to change certain parts n im good 🤷🏾♂️
Except for when you need to clear vehicle-specific codes and reset electronic interlocks that keep your car from working correctly. Dealers/repair shops charge $100-$200 for diagnostic (just to tell you what you already might know). To clear out the codes it's minimum 1-hour of labor (some do by half-hour but it's rare), so even with doing things yourself, depending on the repair, you're still looking at minimum $200-$500 just to have someone double-check your work and 5 minutes clearing out/resetting the codes.
@@logikgr good information
Thank you: this is what common sense looks like
So true
Lol, the man is right and you wanna-be Mercedes boys are hating him for it. Besides the new 2013 through 2016 Mercedes models, every other make has been a complicated and short-lasting model. I mean, otherwise how do you explain that you can get most 2009 through 2012 Mercedes-models for under $17,000? That's because those cars are more expensive to maintain than to they are to buy. If it wasn't for the "brand name" like Scotty mentioned, those cars would not even be worth $7k. Not only are their computer-systems inaccurate, expensive, and prone to failure, but they are cars that are designed for luxury rather than for performance and ENDURANCE. Similar to the BMW, this is because most owners who can actually AFFORD a new Mercedes or BMW will just change it for a new one every other year, so why the hell would such an expensive brand-company even worry about making their cars long-lasting and year efficient?
Do not get me wrong though, 2015 models and up are cars that are absolutely incredible and magnificent, with a much superior performance than any car on the road today. But give it 3 to 4 years and it'll turn to dust as well.
+dropout0110 Maseratti, any new Range Rovers from 2014 and up. All new models from 2016 and up will be really good, no matter the brand. But that does not mean they will all endure the same after 5 to 10 years.
+DatCat Not from the years 2014 and up.
i dont agree on that....my clk is 12 years old now and i dont have had any fancy problems at all in the 8 years i own it. I dont say mercedes has no problem cars at all...becouse i know they have build some serious crap like the 6 cilinder engines build between 2004 an 2009. they had some major isues....but caling mercedes or bmw in general a money pit is a little bit short minded in my opinion.
DatCat 221.000...what problens?
They're aimed towards the crowd of people that can afford to lease or purchase it for like 3 or 4 years until the new model generations come out and the people trade up to the next one. They're kinda like a throw-away, but really fancy and expensive
My dad's GTR has that window up and down thing when you open and shut the door. I thought it was because of air pressure. When he had his corvette he always had to keep a door or a window open when he shut his trunk. Otherwise he would have to slam it shut because all the pressure. I figured that's why they do that, for an easier time closing the door without having to slam it. Either way it looks pretty cool, it looks and sounds higher quality than the one on that mercades
Matthew Moore Well I know it's not just on Mercedes, it's on our nissan. I'm sure it serves some kind of purpose if they put it on a car that is literally designed just to go fast. Not saying it will aid in speed, just I think it serves a purpose
Matthew Moore My 07 Ford Mustang does the same thing with the window.
Tyler Hough Actually they have the windows go down to provide a better seal for the weatherstripping gasket. It has nothing to do with pressure inside the vehicle. On the older cars that had glass where it was free, without a frame around it, you'd often have a bad seal with the weatherstripping to the body because it would pinch in an awkward fashion. This design lowers the window slightly so it can slide into the weatherstripping when its closed providing a tight seal. It is complicated but something I wish I had for my old car, first saw this on the new challengers and was thoroughly impressed.
Matthew Moore Virtually all cars with frameless windows have them drop slightly to open and close the doors.
DE Nichols I'm not sure if even Mercedes power windows are unusually unreliable. And don't take my profile picture too seriously, I'm a fan of the older Mercs but I'd never own one because "a cheap old Mercedes is one of the most expensive cars money can buy"
Sure its a money pit when your customer drives a top end Mercedes Benz CLS 550 where even oil change can cost hundreds of dollars. Go buy a C-class Mercedes with normal 2 liter engine and the costs are much more lower compared to this. New C-class MB is around 35-40k here in europe and holds value very well.
Yeah, he's taking one specific model Mercedes, pointing out some stupid shit to make his case. He also doesn't point out that many of the parts can be purchased for a lot less if you get refurbished parts instead of new. Their rotors don't have to be turned because they use an metal alloy that doesn't warp, so you just replace the pads and then if there is a big enough lip, then you replace the rotors. It's pretty simple. The CLS is a rare model, not too many of them sold. But some Mercedes actually go up in value if they are a specific model, and they are old enough, etc. I saw the late 50's 190SL's have risen quite a lot and now they are in the $200K price range in mint condition. Imagine that. The 190SL's originally sold for around $4000. So, any expensive car loses value in the first 10 to 20 years, but some of them actually start to go back up if they are the right model.
yeah, the C class and E class are much more reasonable to maintain since there are a lot of them on the road and parts are more readily available and much less expensive. But if you take care of them, they are pretty bullet proof, it's all in how well they are maintained. Any car can go to shit if it's not maintained properly.
I have a 19 year old e320. I spend less than $1000 / year on maintenance. Have heard the newer ones are not as easy but my owner's experience has been great.
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Most 04-07 Mercedes have a crank shaft issue that may go out 4-7k fix. Do NOT buy one from these years!!! There is a class action lawsuit against them regarding this.
balance shaft falling apart ,dropping into oil pan . Major repair job
Indeed, the dreaded balance shaft failure around 60k - 80k miles on the M272 series v6s between 04-08. Costs around $4k to fix. No bueno. 3.2 liter v6 is better, which is odd because I think it was MB's 1st v6 ever 🤔
Knowing that, when I bought my 2006 CLS (used, with the M272) I negotiated a preventive replacement of the balance shaft which cost $2,200 (it's an engine-out service). The dealer and I split the cost and now I'm into my 4th year enjoying the car with basically only routine maintenance. Of course, if you wait for the CEL to come on, you're looking at a big repair bill... knowledge is power.
Benz drivers don't know what that is.
You forgot to mention the Flux Capacitor is hard to get to?
That fits on a very special car, costs a bit too.
Juan Gallardo that’s a Delorean, not Mercedes
Call Hollywood.
Actually, Scotty, a person that buys a Mercedes SHOULD buy 2 Mercedes. 1 to crap on, the other one to cover it up with. I have been a mechanic for 20 plus years. Speaking from experience working on these pieces of junk, you are absolutely correct about them. Plus, as a mechanic, you need a complete set of tools, PLUS all the special tools that are designed to work on ONLY these Mercedes garbage cans. Talk about frustration. I don’t care what any Mercedes owner says to me about their cars. It won’t change my mind.
you must be a mechanic of poor ability, keep working on 57 chevies
@Lord Firstosoul absolutely nothing, I own a 55 rocket 88 2 dr ht that is beautiful. but they are infinitely and I mean infinitely easier to work on then any modern car.
Well your not a Mercedes Benz mechanic, I'm sure your used to simple cars with carburators an distributor. Maybe you should work on Lawnmowers. There so hard to work on 😭
I actually do bought and still own 2 mercedes, one CLA and one C. Guess what? I had no problem with them.
@@williamberne Said no Mercedes owner ever. Except the liars of course.
I no longer need coffee in the morning to wake up. I just listen to Scotty K. 😂
Scotty raises a very good point-the increasing complexity of these cars makes them effectively worthless, once you have gone over 80,000 miles. If your car is worth 1/10 of original sales price, why spend 2-5X the value of the car to repair it? This is why you see these used luxury cars in used car lots-they get purchased by people who cannot afford to maintain them. i saw a M-B "Maybach" sedan , all pimped out at a used car lot-price? $10,000-a rolling disaster in the making.
I don't even want to read the comments, the only thing worse than Mercedes is Mercedes owners.
Cinema Shots And what's your opinion on MB''s drivers? I mean why are they so bad?
Deivas Balckiukevicius because he listens to Scotty who gives you a brake line fix that will get you killed...
BMW drivers are pretty awful as well haha. I agree hahaha,they think they are a master race of cars drivers looking down their pompous noses at other peasant car drivers.... Yes they are definitely a deluded bunch that's for sure!!!
This man speaks the truth, MB is way over engineered. I have been an owner, and know a lot of body men and mechanics and most of them will say the same thing.
If only they went back to old ways of making mercedes. My w202 is very convenient, nearly everything is easily reachable and its very reliable car.. Old mercedes cars were not money pits..
Who needs a computer to operate the suspension?
An absolute idiot
Any Mercedes before 1990 were great cars. Look at the 300D diesels. Still used as taxis in some parts of the world. About the only "computer" those old Benzes had was a electronic ignition box and an O2 sensor for fuel mixture and that's pretty much it. Vacuum does the rest. However, Vacuum leaks are terrible to diagnose, but this isn't a problem limited to just Mercedes.
The only mb I will every buy is a w123 diesel
This is why I have a 1992 Mercedes TurboDiesel. Only 251,100 miles. Daily driver. Put 3k miles on it a month.
Love this guy.
Thanks for the support!
Paying a Mercedes dealership makes want to shoot a Mercedes with an AK LOL!
I hear that. One of my favorite makes, just cant stand the bills. Always want one for some reason. I suppose the wife and kids will do for now.
Scotty Kilmer ur Hilarious
Love you Scotty Kilmer from Bangladesh.
Thats the most american intro i've ever seen
This guy is against all performance mods because you should keep your car stock because your car was designed by engineers because performance Mods aren’t designed by engineers... right?
lmaooo
Needs a V8 modor.
Well, the only thing I have changed to my 12 years old Honda in a year are the brakes and engine oil , I can't complain.
You sure can't and the great thing is that your experience isn't uncommon.
Timing belt, too, if it has one?
You must have some bad-ass tires!
+Pynaegan I bought it a year ago with a new set of Michelin tires, I'll probably replace them next month ;)
Change the battery, you're screwing up your electrical system. Change your battery at least every five years even if it works fine. They are $100 with coupon for the gold model at Advance auto. What are you actually saving buy running that thing until it fails other than stressing the heck out of your electrical system and risking a jump or a tow. I bet you don't run tires until they pop, you're wasting money unless they pop!
I've had 5 mercedes. The tire design is dumb and some of the tools are complicated, but they have better 2nd and 3rd resale value. I never buy new and get old lady car. Pay the good oil changes..keep good tires and treat it well and it will last.
Scotty I bet your kids never had car problems😂😂
Jaden Greene perks of having a parent who is mechanic
I'm from Germany and I own a Mercedes. Not only Mercedes uses these kind of break pads, other brands do that to. The brake pads are smaller than the surface of the rotor and leave ridges because these ridges guide the brake pads. If you buy new brake pads you just need to file of the edges in a 45 degree angle and it fits perfectly without any squeking (very easy to do no special tools required) Furthermore are the brake pads and the rotors pretty cheap. You can buy pads and a rotor for about 90 dollars
Most people will not do their own brakes on a Mercedes so saying that means nothing. Most take it to a dealer or other place.
My 2002 CLK 430 is probably the best car I've owned, but I'm also a diy kind of guy. If someone goes to the dealership to fix simple stuff, of course it's going to add up. Don't be afraid to get your hands a little dirty. Yes, I know it's not an office desk, so it'll be a little bit of a new experience.
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I own a 2004 c180, it's now over 350,000km hitting rough roads everyday! The major maintenance issues I had were replacing the engine oil cooler and suspensions just once!
Was it built in the USA?
For luxury go Japanese, Lexus, Acura ,and to an extent, Infini are way cheaper to maintain compared to European brands. The Japanese luxuries share key engineering with the mainstream brands in which they're based off of and some of those powertrains often stay in production long enough for the bugs to be worked out which also means the common parts are interchangeable, have better availability and are cheaper if they do break.
Eric Fortune Jr. heck yea
No offense but lets be honest , these japanese cars can't be compared to BMW/MERC/AUDI. They are of different class and status.
CADILLAC =best luxury car for price
Yeah I have an Infiniti.. been almost 2 years no issues so far just done basic maintenance.
2002 lexus rx 300
265k miles no major issue runs like a champ
Uhh, yeah, the newer ones suck. I only love the classic Mercedes cars from the 40's-60's.
Hard to find a M-B from the 40s.
Oh, I know.
I agree Garrett ^_^. I own a 1983 300SD Turbo Diesel and I Love it. It's not computerized and I'm grateful.
That's awesome, Louis. Yeah, nobody needs all these computers in their cars & trucks. They just need a car that lasts forever & goes from point A to point B, not over-computerized cars or trucks.
+Lukas gröndahl your confusing Mercedes Benz for Volkswagen
I own an older 1998 e55 amg and that's been rock solid for 300,000 kms , only needing normal maintenance etc... Maybe I just got lucky.
Nope, you just bought a true Mercedes from a good time! Enjoy your car! :D
I got a 99 e320 with 247k and its still hasnt had any problems other than the 2 cats but I changed those on my own which saved me money and the normal maintenance
сука-педик. I own 2011 c63 amg the 6.3 v8 version has 200 000 kms on it not a single problem lol my dad owns a gle 63s he is very pleased with it my mom owns a gla 200 also she is in love with that car my uncle has a s560 no problems i don't know but maybe my whole family got lucky :)
Kingdom of Montenegro dude, you're lying to yourself if you don't think that 2011 has had more problems than 15 fords, you should buy a real American Ford.
ATF Ace. I'm not hating on any cars and yes ford is very good my friend has focus i think i will buy it for a recreation car
I replaced front and rear pads without replacing the rotors. Pads fit in the same groove with no squealing. 2006 ML500. Oh, and I got it free from my Dad 4 years ago. 2 air shocks $1300 each, door lock fix $850. Smooth and Fast 7 speed Autobahn vehicle. Replacing headlight bulbs is a big job.
Meanwhile, my 1995 acura integra with 150k miles:
New door latch
New cam gasket
New rubber trim for windows
New radiator hose
New timing belt
Few dozen oil changes
And that's over TWENTY FOUR YEARS of ownership.
thas1227 The real shocker is that all those parts together costs less than $100 😂
I used to work for an Honda Acura garage. I have a 95 merc diesel. No computer, 420,000 plus miles on it. I love Acuras too
and my merc (17 years old) never broke down. its a W211 E320
Say what you want, but designing brake pads that bad is deliberate sabotage and the middle finger to customers.
Renault discs wear like that as well.
Toyota does that. Ford does that. Chevy does that. Kia does that. Mazda, Subaru, Dodge... I've never seen brake pads that extend the rotor.
I bought one of those cars and I really regret it. At the end I had to sell it for penny's.
Alex Sanchez what model was it?
The same one Scotty was talking about. 2008 550
That’s sad man
@@therockgodmalaysia the same one scotty was talking about.
Yes