IPHONE 12 PRO vs. SONY A7S III... How good are the photos REALLY?
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2020
- Side by side comparison of photos taken with the new Iphone 12 Pro and the Sony A7s III.
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Why didn't you shoot in the iPhones portrait mode? It would be a better side by side with the Sony
Because portrait mode is inaccurate and always leaves stitch marks around the subject, especially hair. This can’t be happening with pro photography.
Why do you need fake bokeh))
It’s a feature to simulate a pro camera. So wouldn’t that be a better comparison to show fake vs really bokeh. If you really wanted to test the iPhone camera vs a real camera then the Sony should of been in full auto mode. Let the Sony camera make all the choices just like the native camera app on the iPhone does. We all know phone cameras will never be a “real” camera so whatever arguments you’re gonna make, stop! The whole point of videos like this is to showcase what a phone is capable of.
@@MilosPaprica you are right, real cameras are always better, but if you need good celphone camera just buy Note 20 Ultra, it gives you real bokeh not fake one as iPhone
@@suleymanaliev312 I agree that if people are JUST looking for a good camera on a phone and don’t care what else the iPhone offers, then they can look somewhere else.
But for someone like me, debating whether or not to upgrade because I like what the iPhone offers and because it would be great to have all that plus having the convenience of an iPhone camera that can simulate a picture close to a professional feel, would be winning for my personal needs and wants.
With that being said, I don’t blame her for not showing the portrait mode because her fav food place was on her mind lol.
I'll choose my camera all day over any phone, but if you want the bokeh effect on the iPhone, you'll have to use Portrait mode instead of the normal Photo mode.
Just buy Samsung Note 20 Ultra. Note takes much better photos with bokeh
@@suleymanaliev312 Not better Portrait photos. Only better bokeh without portrait. In portrait mode the iPhone 12 Pro kills the Note 20 Ultra. Watch Supersaf's camera test.
@@ne0tic Note 20 ultra isnt even that great to begin with, also potrait sucks on both phones.
@@danishblunt9698 Well, the iPhone got the best portrait mode of any phone but yes, high end cameras are much better.
@@ne0tic another absolutely false statement. Any phone running android from 2018 and newer is basicially on par or superior to the Iphone depending on camera setup as gcam is now running on borderline all android phones. Potrait is still awful on gcam and Iphone but there are few phones out there such as the Huawei P40/ Mate 40, Oppo find x2 and Oneplus 8 pro which do a much better job than iphone does simply due to much superior hardware, it's still imperfect even on monster camera phones like the huawei's. So making potrait mode comparisons is just silly because they are still so flawed.
Why would you compare an edited picture to an unedited ? Doesn't make sense
iphone already procceses picture its baked in. you cant edit already edited picture
@@universaInformation That is just nonsense. You can shoot RAW with the iPhone
The raw isn't out yet
@@michaelgracias9575 there are apps tht allow raw. Moment app for example
@@universaInformation you can though. It’s extremely easy to make the iPhone photos look nearly identical to the camera photos whether they are processed from the stock camera or using a third party camera to shoot RAW. The photos should’ve absolutely been edited the same way. There’s zero excuse for it, extremely poorly done.
PORTRAIT MODE for, you know: Portraits
dumb ass portrait mode gives fake bokeh sometimes cutting part of the body
@@universaInformation so are you saying it is a more fair comparison to use it on your camera AND edit the photo using a preset pack THEN compare it to the iPhone's camera without using the actual mode in the camera app? Because let's face it, even if this was a Samsung to Sony comparison or even a pixel to sony comparison, it is heavily biased to not utilize the same features across all. It is for this exact reason that when phone reviewers are giving reviews on let's say the battery that they use the exact same apps and settings across all devices regardless of whether that device uses ios, android, ipados or windows.
@@universaInformation Do you even know iPhone 12 Pro has a Lidar Sensor?
Nice Lizzie!
Im a 14 year old photographer and watch your videos constantly for inspiration and tips!
Thank you very much!
Why did you edit the Sony photos and not the iphone photos ? And of course the portrait mode will be nicer on a 1.4 aperture lens, that is twice the price of the iphone on its own.
She just wants to show off the DLSR strength and sell her presets...
1.4 doesnt mean you use 1.4 bokeh wise f4 wouldnt be much different . the sony is like a medium format compared to the phone , theres no competition or ever will be unless you put the images through an app to blurr the fore and backgrounds
Sorry, but your problem is.. that you don’t know how to shoot photos with iPhone 🤦♂️
Hahah it's the most basic camera app lol. It's meant to be dumbed down for users that can't use a real camera hahah.that what iphone fanboys brag about, oohhh my phone is for click and shoot lol
Haha to these no talent youtube hacks telling her she can't use a photo on an iphone. Get yourself some money get the same hardware and upload your own video. Ohhh wait... You can't cause your broke, have no talent, and you don't have anybody's attention to even watch your video. STFU!
@dj neural interface dj neural interface everyone does.. I'm a Samsung user, a child could figure it out within 1 minute
Try working in a place where you print photos! IPhone produce SHIT photos in print, and none of the users understand how to use the phones. They're antiquated machines with poor features.
@@stevenwest1494 I know, but you can also make beautiful photos with iPhone and also in RAW format (DSLR camera app, Filmic Pro etc.)..
Ok for those asking about portrait mode. I get it. But portrait mode uses software to create a fake bokeh effect that would normally be created by a lens’ aperture. It basically finds the subject and blurs out the background. Comparing a7siii photos with iPhones portrait mode would only let us see how good the software does to get the effect. You can achieve “portrait mode” effect in photoshop or even apps. Just a thought. I think they were going for a camera to camera comparison, and this was 100% the best way to do it.
Great video. The BIG question is: Do you have to be an experienced user to take those photos with the A7III or you can just use the AUTO MODE of the camera and pretty much use it as your iPhone, that is, without any tweaking whatsover? Thanks!
Great Video Lizzie!!!! Loved all the info etc.
Just found your vids recently. Really great work! Subscribed!
Another great upload Lizzie. Thanks for sharing
Lol. People nowadays..
I saw that you can shoot in portrait mode and then be able to change the aperture to whatever you like afterwards. You should give it a shot and see how it comes out. Just thought I'd let you know, in case you didn't. I think Matti mentioned it in one of his videos, or maybe Peter.
You cant change the aperture afterwards. Portraitmode is just a filter that tries to blur everything except the subject
Love this comparison! Was waiting for somebody to do this!
Definitely amazing the ability to capture really good content with just your phone ! Love it !
„You enjoying this video?“ No, not actually, because as many other people have noted, this comparison does not make sense, at all. iPhone means computational photography, so the interesting parts would have been how good the algorithm has become to select the shape of the person, and if the new lidar scanner adds to the experience. The way you put those two camera systems up against each other is just a waste of time as those „results“ were more than predictable.
@Lizzie you got me confused 🤷♂️ about the 12-24 lens. Is that the G Master lens or the simple G one? The g master I think is f/2,8. Am I right? Anyway if that’s the case, what’s your opinion about the f/4 lens? Thinking to buy one
1. Why never use Portrait mode for comparison, when you are looking for boke?
2. Is that Lidar working or just reflections? on 4:03
Lizzie! First of all: +10 on the super chill music you picked. Great video and you got some cool photos!
Lol licker
It's like she's been living under a rock her whole life..Portrait mode is what started multiple camera phenomenon for the iPhone.. Hope somebody lets her know about this feature
So glad I found your channel from the PhotoStories episode with Pete. Kinda binge watched your content😬🤙🏼 love your work and storytelling
Out there in such a good way!! Im lovin’ it!!
HI Lizzie - What mic did you use in the field? Thanks
The photos from the iPhone 12 don’t look like they were taken in portrait mode though... there’s definitely more “bokeh” with the portrait mode. I get even more than what was shown with my iPhone 11. 🤔
She didn't want to cut half of the head with fake bokeh🤣
@@suleymanaliev312 the iPhone 12 Pro phones know exactly how far away each object is in the picture thanks to the lidar sensor. Object detection is a million times better than on older iPhones
@@WhiteoutTech you wish))) its only marketing thing))
Suleiman Aliev it isn't just marketing. the object detection is alot better thanks to lidar. you can watch comparison videos between the iphone 11 pro and 12 pro
@@WhiteoutTech sorry, but I am not interested in iphone. Android phones are more interested
All iphone 12 series have a big problem of lens flare and green dots when you take night photo and video.It’s really bad. Do you know a solution about this?
You did not even try the potrait mode on the iPhone 12 pro..the lidar affect, and computational photography and the lidar. That's where the magic happen.. This review unfortunately is heavy one sided
Just laughing 🤣🤣🤣 fake bokeh
@@suleymanaliev312 that's the closest although fake bokeh, like iPhone u can put inside a pocket whereas mirrorless can't.
@@agungtriputra1510 on Samsung Note 20 Ultra you don't need closer bokeh, it gives you natural bokeh with 108mp censor)
Suleiman Aliev the topic here is iPhone and Sony. So note is out of topic
@@agungtriputra1510 because it's better))
I’ve watched tons of iPhone 12 pro reviews, because I’m interested in upgrading to the pro max. One thing I find with nearly all reviews is that there is a huge focus on how good or not the portrait mode is and how much the background is ‘blurred’, even more than any other features.
Love the video! Just some friendly input, i feel like something happened when you exported the photos/videos from the phone. It almost looks like there was some loss or compression?
Great video, Lizzie! Just for other viewers: At 4:05, this is not the 12-24 G Master with F2.8! It is the older 12-24 G with F4 :)
Hey Lizzie, your content is really inspiring to me I always love it! I'm a 12 year old filmmaker from FL, and I always ask if people have advice for young filmmakers like me, do you have any advice?
2 questions: 1) Will you do a comparison on the iPhone 12 Pro Max vs A7SIII as the max will have a larger sensor with IBIS and capture 87% more light and therefore be even better than the regular 12 Pro in low light? 2) Are you going to BWW for Tuesday wing night?
Crazy that there were two people here, and actually none of the two thought "hey let's use the portrait mode !"
Always enjoy your content! I'd be curious to see you use the Sony at equivalent f-stops to the iPhone, maybe f8 or so? That would be an interesting comparison.
Also, I'd love to see how the new iPhone (13 at this point) would look when shooting your studio setup as compared to your normal camera.
Hi Lizzie... Great comparison... May I know what camera did you use to record this vlog? Thank you... ツ
What was that connected and hanging from your Sony?
Would you get the 12 pro or 12 pro max? Is the 12 pro camera good enough?
perfect, as we’re considering picking up both (eventually...).
Curious, did you try the iPhone 12 Pro in portrait mode in any of your shots and if not, why not?
Hallo habe seine Frage würdest du die Kamera komblet ferlasen und nurnoch mit iPhone Fotografie machen
Fun video, would love to have seen the iPhone portrait mode also added in there because it is. Feature of the phone...also if you do a follow up to include when the new raw update is released
When it comes to taking portraits without using software background blur, then the 103mm equivalent periscope camera of the Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra is currently one of the cameras that give you the highest amount of natural background blur due to the large 5.4mm quotient of focal length and f-number.
What a great comparison. Not gimmicky at all, just 1 to 1. It’s also good for understanding the type of shots that you can get away with on an iPhone.
Nice comparison but it would have been nice to know which fstop your using when shooting on the Sony. And maybe compare it to the portrait mode on iPhone.
Best video on the subject, well done.
what is that thing hanging on your camera at 2:46 ?
Nice video! However, in order to do a fair comparison, I would have installed on the Iphone an app that gives full control on the camera (colour compression/focus/WB/iso/shutter speed...). For example, I use the app from Moment, and it's game changing, it reveals all the real, incredible, possibilities of these tiny devices :-)
Ur videos is amazing dear😍
*Will the Pro Max have better Videography Capabilities? Or just photos?*
So the score is better iphone or dslr? 1:10 score . Can u give score?
Videos are important. How do they compare with long videos (1+ hrs of 4k footage).
hi Lizzie, just one question: what would be my first entry lvl camera for photography mainly ? im thinking Sony A7c ??
Just an opinion but they are not really entry level cameras. Very pricy but amazing. I would recommend a canon.
@@luke7187 but which one ?
@@adambodera4138 I have the 700D perfect for everyday photography
lol..bias comparison..u dont even use iphone potrait mode that came with the lidar sensor for the bokeh effect
Two tips from someone who’s pretty good at squeezing everything out of an iPhone camera. Shoot either portrait mode in the stock camera app, or use the depth mode with halide (a paid manual camera app that is perfect for getting great photos out of the phone). Second, use the app Focos to edit your depth or field. It uses depth data from the photo to get realistic bokeh. You can even adjust what’s in and out of focus in post which is kinda sorcery but it works well and can really save you. The thing you have to keep in mind when it comes to iPhone photography is third-party apps will always help you squeeze extra photo goodness out of that small sensor. Hope this helps anyone looking to get better shots. Good day
awesome, thank you
I Portrait mode comparisons with the A7 images? Would be interesting to see how the computational photography compensates for the small sensor - I mean that’s what’s making the phone great, no?
Love ur videos
How did u guys get the IPHONE 12!
Subscribed.Good luck with your channel.
Every time you move the disk away from the 0.5x 1x and 2x as you are suggesting to "match" your camera lens you are actually cropping the image. There is also the portrait mode, to bokeh the background, you should try it. And I could get the Iphone photos nearly as good as the ones taken with your camera editing with Photoshop for instance.
There is an old feature still on the iPhone 12 pro called Portrait
I think you should try that too
beautiful photos and videos....wow.
Only thing my iPhone is always with me my DSLR isn’t when I’m out on the farm mowing or whatever it’s easy to grab my iPhone it’s quick & easy I get some really great pics of wildlife wildflowers or my a sunset that I would miss because my DSLR just isn’t easy to carry while on a tractor or riding my 4 wheeler checking on the place
Great video thanks
can you please compare Nokia 9 PureView with sony a7s
Great video as always Lizzie. I'm about to publish a website with Squarespace and I'll make sure to use your promotional code 🤟
Good effort into the video but like people are saying the work that you put in wasn’t as well thought out as it could have been.
why didn't you use portrait mode lizzy!!!!!!
dumb ass portrait mode gives fake bokeh sometimes cutting part of the body
@@universaInformation are you salty, most of the times, it cuts nicely. most people nowadays won't even tell the differences.. watch tyler stalman review you dumbass
Hey! awesome video, I think you should have shot in portrait mode on the iPhone tho🔥
Nice..i love it
What about portrait mode?
Why not use the portrait mode ?
yes portrait mode. and u can also change the aperture in that mode. also afterwards ...
It would be nice if you lowered the exposure on iPhone and turned on portrait mode. The point of Lidar is so it can detect depth much better than any previous iPhone.
How can you compare an almost Pro DSLR sensor against a phone camera ?????
How does the iphone 12 PRO look shooting fondue?
This video looks great but..... the moment she used digital zoom.. I immediately scrolled down to the comments section.. and yeah, about the portrait mode, she should've used that instead of just the telephoto lens if you wanted the background to blur and adjust it to your liking.
With the LIDAR, I think it doesn't activate all the time? The phone only uses the LIDAR scanner when it needs to.
I think its fair to say that a full-frame mirrorless with some decent-to-great lenses come out ahead no question. But some of the comparisons here are kinda questionable? For example, when mimicking focal length, why not just walk closer to the subject so you don't crop the photo? And even tho Portrait Mode is enabled on phones mostly by software/ISP, I think it would've still been a fair comparison as its still amazing what it can do to compensate the lens and small sensor size.
Hey Lizzie great work,why don't you test the portrait mode for photos?it will make a big difference, anyway nice work,you are actually reading the viewer's mind, great ❤️❤️
I could’ve subscribed but I just can’t get why you did not use the portrait mode in iphone when taking “comparison” “portrait” shots? 😶
Of course currently smartphones can not compete when it comes to natural background blur. Though regarding colors and jpg dynamic range full frame cameras already had no chance in 2015/2016 (Google Nexus 5x HDR+ On mode).
But the iPhone has the portrait mode? why you don't use it?
iphone 12 pro portrait mode can do blurry background as well.
For better comparative you would need to compare actual focal lengths.. perhaps using primes.. and apertures first and then possibly equivalent field of view...
Why no portrait mode?
Why you dont switch to portrait mode
FWIW- In the 55 years I've been a photographer and cinematographer, it has generally been accepted that the term "Bokeh" is the way the lens renders out-of-focus points of light. You have been using it in reference to any out of focus area, which I have always heard experienced professionals refer to as areas of Soft Focus. Creamy soft-focus, etc. Cheers
Is that high park?
Wow good job
Good idea but big fail. Portrait would have make it a better comparison.
how ? the point is the distance between the lens front and camera back dictates the depth perception . basically a phone has a few mm . therefore has no depth , dx cameras have a bit more , full frame have loads , medium format has even more etc etc .. a phone sensor is miniscule compared to a dslr ,
@@tomhughes5123 smartphones nowadays have something called computational photography. Basically it is an artificial depth of field. You can choose it in the camera app and even adjust it after taking the pic.
@@dougmorato yes but its not got the depth of even basic cameras , my friend has the latest samsung super duper whatever it is , he just doesnt rate it , a phone will never be a camera at the end of the day , portrait mode only enlarges the image on the screen , it doesnt improve the image , phones are for farting about putting snapshots on facebook , enhanced by apps for best quality , my daughter printed 10×8 photos off a new i phone , shes recently bought a new nikon dslr , i guess she didnt rate the photos . the photo processor in a camera is huge compared to a phone , lenses sensor ... cameras the images speak for themselves
This is pretty great - I think I might need to find myself an iPhone 12 pro now!
Sorry if I steal someone’s else’s comment but that money hand off at 4:55! THAT WAS GREAT🤣. Keep up the amazing work!
Use kit lens it will be more fair comparison
Delete this video / repost this video again with portrait mode being used in it.
Why? So she can point out the horrible potrait mode on smartphones that keep smearing peoples hair, glasses, clothing etc.? Thank you, but no thank you.
@@danishblunt9698 because stating that the iphone or any other phone has less bokeh and because of that is less nice is just stupid. No phone has great bokeh. And yeah the fake bokeh is never as nice as real one. But if you are going to compare them at least use what is made to simulate it or if not just dont use it as an argument.
@@philipmoriau599 what she did is 100% correct.
@@nightryder21 I disagree, the moment she used digital zoom (which is bad on all phones) made me doubt her comparisons. She compared the bokeh on her camera but did not bother to use portrait mode and she expected to get similar results. The portrait mode is a separate mode on the camera app intended for capturing blurry backgrounds.
Shes comparing the iphone lens with a decent camera. Not testing shitty iPhone features to make your selfie looks shite..
If you want background blur... portrait mode?
Bokeh is the quality of out of focus (OoF) lights produced by either distance to subject/background, aperture and/or sensor size. Term also lately used for referring to OoF background.
Portrait Mode in phones renders a programmed OoF background. It is just a software result (like mini-photoshopping).
In that sense, if Portrait Mode is to be used in iPhone, then an in-camera (A7s) tool for creating "bokeh" would have to be used. Or maybe just post process it, photoshop it, etc. Apple's algorithms are nice but it's just that, software.
Otherwise, most phone cameras can't just make bokeh with those distances/sensor sizes/apertures.
Thanks for sharing. 🙏🏻
Iphone fanboys on this comment section don't get that lol
This Comparison is really unfair fullframe with Cellphone sensor ? I’m IPhone 11pro max User and I’m using Sony A7R3 , ... it’s Fair ?
Maybe compare portrait mode?
3:05 The sensor isn't responsible for the background blur. Put the same Sony lens on the iPhone sensor (without the iPhone lens) and the absolute background blur would be exactly the same, just the field of view would be much smaller and therefore the relative background blur would be even larger than on the Sony, if one would use the iPhone sensor with the same Sony lens.
You have to use portrait mode to compare a portrait with the iPhone
I'm so hooked on the sound of your voice 😊.
The next time you should use the portrait mode, you can also adjust the aperture and get a nice bokeh 👍🏻