Gen X vs Gen Z Guitar Rig! - Is Modern Gear Better?

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

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  • @jamiebriggs8277
    @jamiebriggs8277 Год назад +700

    "I don't need wifi, I just need $800 worth of patch cables and three days to build my $5,000 pedal board" 😄

    • @kaivalentine9664
      @kaivalentine9664 Год назад +51

      And then i need to carry thousand pounds to the gig

    • @johnnylayton1672
      @johnnylayton1672 Год назад +21

      Extra points if you can show soldering iron burns in lieu of calluses on your fingertips...

    • @MothmanCold
      @MothmanCold Год назад +15

      No you replace an $800 worth of patch cables with an $800 laptop that you’ll have to replace every 5 years
      *im only picking no wrong answers imo

    • @scottwalsh52
      @scottwalsh52 Год назад +15

      @@MothmanCold Very true, but who isn't replacing their laptop every 5 years anyway? ;)

    • @akupaasu8944
      @akupaasu8944 Год назад +41

      ​@@scottwalsh52 Me simple. Me own no lapstops. Me have Marshall stack. Me happy.

  • @shawn9366
    @shawn9366 Год назад +260

    "Any style?" "...obviously not" Lee's comedic timing really is damn good 😂

    • @progpogs
      @progpogs Год назад +2

      Took me a second.

    • @waitin4winter
      @waitin4winter Год назад +5

      Comedic timing? Or simply the truth? 😂

    • @mymodel6
      @mymodel6 Год назад +2

      You don't know what comedy timing means do you...

  • @chrisgoblin4857
    @chrisgoblin4857 Год назад +337

    I use the Millenial rig. A mix of Digital and Analogue as that's what worked best at the time.

    • @bogdanlaiu8309
      @bogdanlaiu8309 Год назад +7

      Just like capt Lee. From what I know Strymon does only digital things.

    • @Safetysealed
      @Safetysealed Год назад +26

      digital modelling unit through a valve power amp is absolutely the best of both worlds.

    • @IZE83L
      @IZE83L Год назад

      Same 😂

    • @tonoselectricos
      @tonoselectricos Год назад +4

      +1. Amp sim ( hx stomp ) + analog pedals into the FX loop.

    • @SurdeInglaterr
      @SurdeInglaterr Год назад +3

      except we suck at music , all we did was memes

  • @jonhmusic423
    @jonhmusic423 Год назад +44

    One of the big advantages to a system like the Quad Cortex, or similar setups (HX stuff, Valeton GP range etc) is that they are all-in-one solutions for multi-instrumentalists. With a decent digital system, you have a single unit that works for electric, acoustic, bass, upright bass, keys/synths or basically any instrument, and you can set up and save ideal patches for each just by downloading appropriate presets or IRs.

  • @InternetTRex
    @InternetTRex Год назад +27

    As a millenial who falls between the lines I've gone with a 100w Marshall, 4x12 and attenuator - because guitar music will always partially be a visual experience for the crowd (and I'm definitely not attractive enough to get on without a good looking backline)

  • @Hawkspring
    @Hawkspring Год назад +157

    Unfortunately, if you fall along the generational seams, you end up buying both. I don’t make the rules.

    • @pedrovictor4256
      @pedrovictor4256 Год назад +1

      Ye, I play with a strat using flats and I have a pedalboard with pedals and a ampero mini for the modulation/amp stuff, best of both worlds

    • @jamesrouse3466
      @jamesrouse3466 Год назад

      Very true😂

    • @blue_mountains28
      @blue_mountains28 Год назад +2

      Or every few years selling everything and yo-yoing madly between old analogue stuff and cutting edge modelling stuff. That shock depreciation of modelling gear never gets old😅

    • @TelesPlayMetal
      @TelesPlayMetal Год назад +1

      It’s hard to find truth on the internet, but I found it with this comment.

    • @Stboser
      @Stboser Год назад

      Preach 😅

  • @TheHatMusic
    @TheHatMusic Год назад +22

    I wanted to hate the digital setup.... but I just can't. They both sound great. I think the fundamental element is that whatever rig you use, it has to be something you actually like well enough to spend the time learning properly. If you're familiar with the kit and enjoy playing with it, you'll put more time in getting the tone dialled in properly.

  • @IamMusicNerd
    @IamMusicNerd Год назад +90

    Being older I used to always be an amp and pedal guy. But honestly, once you’re done setting up a good quality multi-effects unit, they are easy, they sound great, don’t have to worry about someone accidentally bumping a dial on one of your pedals, and are consistent every day. My amps seem to sound different from day to day. So I’m starting to drink the kool aid a bit. :)

    • @NickyAbat
      @NickyAbat Год назад +7

      It's that amp sounding different day to day bit that always bugged me with analog amps.

    • @markdonatelli5742
      @markdonatelli5742 Год назад +1

      Although you do have to worry about someone spilling a drink on the digital unit 😂

    • @xxxxneoxxxx
      @xxxxneoxxxx Год назад +14

      ​@@markdonatelli5742 that is also a worry with amps and pedals, bro.

    • @BrendanMakesMusic
      @BrendanMakesMusic Год назад +1

      Yup, I decided to place a premium on portability, reliability, and versatility. I sold all my tube amps (except my D20 which I adore) and build a board around an FM3 that can go from rock to country to ambient craziness at the click of a button. It sounds 90% as good as a tube amp (if you’re listening through a PA or headphones, which is the only sound that matters since that’s what audiences here), and the number of people who can tell the difference would fit in my car; only one of them would even care.

  • @Dan_Ranger
    @Dan_Ranger Год назад +14

    60 years old here. Played them all from old amps, modellers and solid state. Gigged and at home.
    Settled back on tube/valve amps at gigs and digital at home via Two Notes.
    I still like the experience of gigging a valve rig and life is too short not to and it keeps me fit. Nothing wrong with the modellers especially for fly dates etc. sometimes hybrid rigs work really well.
    All depends on the gig and the job. All have their place.
    Still like to feel my trousers 👖 flap occasionally to make sure I’m alive. 🎉

  • @gffg387
    @gffg387 Год назад +30

    Digital John was updating his firmware at the beginning. That's why he was taking a while to start.

    • @mikeomatic9905
      @mikeomatic9905 Год назад +1

      Are you talking about his rig or his own personal firmware?

    • @gffg387
      @gffg387 Год назад +8

      @@mikeomatic9905 Personal firmware. Rig was fine.

  • @PikaStu666
    @PikaStu666 Год назад +46

    I’m a GenX guitarist with a GenZ setup. It’s the future and my knackered GenX back appreciates it!

    • @Safetysealed
      @Safetysealed Год назад +2

      It's even better in the world of bass mate.
      I now own a bass rig with an 800 watt class D amp and a neodynium loaded 1x15 cab, and the whole rig weighs barely a ball hair more than my old rack power amp alone... It's mindblowing to think about.
      Those years of loading my gear in and out being a 2 man job (and still causing back pain) are looooong gone. and good bloody riddance :D

    • @MetaphysicalMusician
      @MetaphysicalMusician Год назад

      😂😂

    • @mattdauph
      @mattdauph Год назад

      @@Safetysealed i know what you mean. My bass, Helix, and two Headrush FRFR cabinets combined weigh less than just my old 4x10

    • @grumpyrocker
      @grumpyrocker Год назад +1

      Same. While I have owned valve amps, I've never seen them as the pinnacle, just another tool. I've been using digital for years.

  • @chrisfreeman5425
    @chrisfreeman5425 Год назад +8

    It Truly is amazing how far digital processing has come along. But as a millennial i still love having actual tube amps and pedals. But just listening to video it was almost impossible to tell the two apart. Love the video

    • @Cosmo__Kramer
      @Cosmo__Kramer Год назад +2

      I have both. The difference is mainly in the feel of the guitar while playing. Pedals and tubes feel alive!

    • @chikinonfrydai
      @chikinonfrydai Год назад +1

      @@Cosmo__Kramerhow tf is a pedal gonna change how the guitar feels lmao

    • @Cosmo__Kramer
      @Cosmo__Kramer Год назад

      @@chikinonfrydai how does it? It just does..try playing an 808 it gives the guitar a smooth buttery feel..so yea..it does same way an amp fking does

    • @fighterx4133
      @fighterx4133 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Cosmo__KramerI'm willing to bet my house if you were blindfolded and given a guitar going through both set ups were the modeler was really well set up you wouldn't be able to tell the difference at all. That is purely a placebo effect.

    • @Cosmo__Kramer
      @Cosmo__Kramer 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@fighterx4133 naw..you would lose your house..I started playing modeling amps forever..I know how to set up an amp..I have Peavey..marshall..blackstar..line 6..kustom..and vox modeler's...the vox is great sounds so good....but it's not on the tube level..pretty close..like I said sounds great..modelers aren't there yet..pretty close but just not the same..I have also set them up and switched back and forth just to see how close...sorry you would lose

  • @marcmays4227
    @marcmays4227 Год назад +37

    Now on the next episode, he should try and recreate your pedal board with as much accuracy as possible for reference.

  • @notepower-k2699
    @notepower-k2699 Год назад +5

    "Did u just profile that Zoom G4?" 😂 That goes deep man!

  • @Maggos89
    @Maggos89 Год назад +21

    Neural DSP really changed the game for me. I can get whatever tone I want all through my computer in just a few minutes.

    • @rikmcrae
      @rikmcrae 9 месяцев назад

      Same here.

    • @Louis-c189
      @Louis-c189 2 месяца назад

      What plugin is your go to with Neural DSP?

  • @johnconnearnmusic
    @johnconnearnmusic Год назад +12

    Ozwald you did me well dirty with those cuts in the intro #Digital5eva

    • @AndreasKingMedia
      @AndreasKingMedia Год назад

      Lmfao should have asked him how much time it took him to make that pedal board xD
      Edit: Of course 30 seconds of watching later you did derp

    • @TheOddKris
      @TheOddKris Год назад

      Roasted with love! You're the GOAT John

  • @SomeKindOfMadman
    @SomeKindOfMadman Год назад +8

    Use the gear that inspires you to make music, whatever it may be, don’t get bogged down on who’s right or wrong, just play and have a good time.

    • @-EndlessNameless-
      @-EndlessNameless- Год назад +1

      ^ This answer is the only correct answer. It all a personal preference thing. In a live situation or on a album, no one would be able to tell the difference between analog and digital

    • @stoner255
      @stoner255 Год назад +1

      This is one of the best comment..I'm agree with u👌

    • @SomeKindOfMadman
      @SomeKindOfMadman Год назад +1

      @@stoner255 : )
      Thank you kindly, friend

  • @adamsan7494
    @adamsan7494 Год назад +10

    @Andertons I'd love a gen X walkthrough on what gear is needed for a fully digital setup please. 😊

  • @joelhabrial3897
    @joelhabrial3897 Год назад +10

    I can't say that I have any strong preference, just different tools for different situations and individuals. I have played multieffects and modelling amps, but as I get more specific in the sound I am looking for, I find myself moving to more analog gear. It is some of the best sounds I've ever had, but as soon as I get a fly gig, I'm buying a QC, profiling my amp, and programing my pedalboard into it!

  • @rockchunk9417
    @rockchunk9417 Год назад +11

    I like and use both but the way electric prices and the cost of living are going digital is going to win for home users a laptop + audio interface with plugins will get you a good enough sound to play along with all your favourite records and give you a tonal palette to create your own sounds. If I was doing it all over again starting now I would have saved myself a fortune lol

  • @SirVicc
    @SirVicc Год назад +15

    Gen X here that has both. Generally use digital for quiet practice, but when I want to have actual fun, nothing beats a tube amp. Nothing.

    • @pauliusmscichauskas558
      @pauliusmscichauskas558 Год назад +1

      Have you tried playing your digital rig loud, through the cab?

    • @marksvideochannel3592
      @marksvideochannel3592 Год назад

      @@pauliusmscichauskas558 Yep, people always seem to miss that. You turn a modeller up with a decent Cab or FRFR up to the same level a tube amp is usually at, i.e moving air levels...the differentiation of the more modern modeller units is a much finer line.

    • @grumpyrocker
      @grumpyrocker Год назад +1

      My all analog solid state Orange amp is just as much fun as any valve amp I've owned.

    • @pauliusmscichauskas558
      @pauliusmscichauskas558 Год назад +1

      @@marksvideochannel3592 The FRFR will never be the same as a real cab... It amplifies a simulated Mic'ed cab signal.. Listening to a cab directly, in the room, is a very different experience.

  • @YanYeiDei
    @YanYeiDei Год назад +1

    Lee: alright, let's go then!
    John: Right, any style then?
    Lee: . . . obviously not; )
    that cracked me up something fierce. thanks for the vid guys.

  • @mymodel6
    @mymodel6 Год назад +16

    Lee, do more vids with this young fella. Your raport is good, and and he is really on it when it comes to describing the gear and how to use it, great player too.. Top marks.

  • @corrina9171
    @corrina9171 Год назад +17

    OMG! Got to be the funniest show at the start. Love the joking and playing. I'm Gen X and I prefer mostly analogue with some digital. Digital sometimes to me seems limiting and complicated, but am always open and willing to learn.

  • @calebwhitcraft1664
    @calebwhitcraft1664 Год назад +4

    Can't go wrong either way. I love pedals, like Lee I love the immediacy and visibility of just adjusting knobs on the fly, but I love digital solutions for all the problems they solve, too. How many times did I fight a sound guy about my stage volume until my tube amp had the life choked out of it, when I could've just run a digital modeler into a FRFR cab or wedge and got saturated, driven tones at coffeeshop volume...

  • @ChrisPaynePhoto
    @ChrisPaynePhoto Год назад +3

    Amazing idea!!! Please make this into a series? “Metal rigs” of yore and now?

  • @donkarnage6032
    @donkarnage6032 Год назад +22

    I prefer an amp and pedals to digital stuff. I started out playing on digital modelers and they have their place. I think in my mind why I prefer the traditional stuff is because it's cooler. You will always look cooler with a Marshall(or whatever) stack behind you than a modeler at your feet that nobody can see. Music is about the visual as well.

    • @omgvague
      @omgvague Год назад +6

      Just do what other bands adapted to doing and building walls of empty cabinets

  • @philrougier5533
    @philrougier5533 Год назад +6

    I'm a Baby Boomer turning 60 this year. Nothing more to add, really 🙂

    • @deddiev1718
      @deddiev1718 Год назад +1

      As am I. But I went through my digital phase in the 90’s and early 2000’s Johnson millennium ART, even line 6.
      It’s all about a good pedal platform tube amp and pedals as it should be

  • @trizzlethompson9339
    @trizzlethompson9339 Год назад +6

    Caotains criticism of the modeler is actually 100% right because that's what a modeler is doing. It is replicating a tone run through and "amp, cab and effects" then miced in a room. What is coming through the speaker is not the amp tone but the miced tone if you were listening in a studio.
    Once I realized that, I fell more in love with my Fractal Ace FX III, because I wasn't trying to make an "amp in the room tone" I'm making a great tone that translates well in a mix! And with the newest updates it's only better!! Analog is great! But a really good digital is so nice! And I have kids so I only play at night and I can use headphones to make tones that translate to a live environment!!

  • @davidmock9093
    @davidmock9093 Год назад

    John's comment about "you'd just go to THAT pedal and turn an knob - and the QC you just touch the icon and get all the parameters"

  • @eskilseter
    @eskilseter Год назад +11

    I'm late Gen-X (1980). I love both, but I haven't owned a guitar amp since 2003, and these days I'm 100% modeling for both guitar and bass. The convenience factor just can't be denied, and after years of pedal obsession and pedalboard rebuilds, going digital has allowed me some much needed peace of mind because I'm no longer obsessing about what pedal I want to replace next.

    • @NickJardine
      @NickJardine Год назад +4

      In the end, if you are spending more time actually playing now, its a win in my books.

    • @greg6162
      @greg6162 Год назад

      I agree born June of 1980 and I consider myself Gen-X. I’m in the states but over here we’re considered Gen-X until 1981 I think. But I’m buying a new amp… either some digital setup or a Mesa Boogie California Tweed. Haven’t played since 1996… when I paid $140 for a BOSS FX69 GRUNGE pedal to go with my 20w Marshall Tube amp and Fender squire setup I paid $300 all in from my brothers friend when I was 16. I’ve been playing the last 6/months and after buying a $170 LP-special ii and then a Fender Player Plus (SSS) I started a three piece band with the guys from work and I’m getting drowned out by our drummer with a Yamaha THR10II 😂… never played with a proper band and learned the hard way, what you’d think is obvious. So I need a new amp and was considering going digital but I’m lost on everything that’s out now… (btw… I’m not really a great player) should I stick with what I know?

  • @SirPrizeMF
    @SirPrizeMF Год назад +1

    Lee: "John likes modern guitars that have lots of knobs and switches on them, I like guitars that are old and simple"
    Lee's guitar: HAS WAY MORE KNOBS AND SWITCHES

  • @robinjgill
    @robinjgill Год назад

    I'm an amp> fuzz> boost>delay boomer. The new gear is really really great. My resistance isn't the gear. It's me. i'm getting tired of working out how new stuff works- not just music gear but devices in general. When faced with a new washing machine, fridge, car, oven, mobile, a DAW I haven't used before, the new Windows, the company's new billing platform, etc. I get a sinking feeling of "here we go again". Guitar-cable-amp is just so direct, all I have to do is play. Lee, if you ever run a market research focus group, I'm up for it😀

  • @scramblesthedeathdealer
    @scramblesthedeathdealer Год назад

    My rig: Ibanez RG->Digitech Whammy->Dunlop Crybaby 95Q->bunch of Boss pedals->Egnater Tweaker 15 half stack.

  • @askjdog
    @askjdog Год назад +2

    Analogue sound is so much better. The tones, sustain, and if in the room the feel of the burst through the tubes' sweet spot while playing. There are nuances the digital modelers can't do (yet). For home recording digital is easier.

    • @caixiuying8901
      @caixiuying8901 Год назад

      I just don't want to carry too much stuff
      I don't use any effects either, maybe a compressor and reverb, but I just need a solid amp and cab sound, EQ and Boost to clean up or brighten stuff
      I don't really get the full use out of Analog or Digital considering how simple my rigs are, but I agree that Analog still sounds better AND digital is easier for home recording due to it's consistency and not needing a mic if you have the right IRs and no cab

    • @caixiuying8901
      @caixiuying8901 Год назад

      If I wanted to do a Shoegaze rig, Analog will sound a lot better in terms of having your chorus and fuzz effects be as detailed as they are, but I MIGHT still prefer Digital because I can switch patches without having to set two amp channels for clean/distortion, and I don't need to step on 6 pedals to make it happen
      I hate the compromise, I want the quality of analog with the convenience of digital LOL

  • @dabanjo
    @dabanjo Год назад +6

    My personal problem with the new digital stuff, tonex for example, is I spend too much time tinkering and on the computer tweaking patches. More time than actually playing. Last few years I've been using a "Simplifier" amp sim. It's all on board, and easy to use. Sounds like an amp, with no extra updating or logging on to the pc. Best of both worlds imo. I'd like to see more of the standalone amp sims, where the pedal amp only emulates one or two amps. Cuts down the paralysis.

    • @Lalairu
      @Lalairu Год назад +1

      I've been comnsidering a simplifier for a long time. You can use it just with headphones or even plug it into a cabinet right?

    • @vicenzor9699
      @vicenzor9699 Год назад

      The McRocklin suite is an amazing all in 1. They actually keep up with updates regularly so far and it's very light on CPU resource use compared to something like Neural. It's a more straight forward interface with more usable presets than any archetype suite I've tried.
      In the end though it's up to you to limit your time tinkering and find the four or five tones that work for the music you play and then just play. I don't spend much time at all messing with the tones.

    • @dabanjo
      @dabanjo Год назад +1

      @Lalairu yes yes, I can't recommend it enough. It's not for high gain tho, it's more classic fender and vox tone.

    • @Lalairu
      @Lalairu Год назад +1

      @@dabanjo mmm I see. Thanks for the fast response :) you couldn't play classic metal or grunge for instance?

    • @dabanjo
      @dabanjo Год назад +1

      @@Lalairu Oh for sure can do that, and it handles pedals well. I run my entire pedal board thru it. It's just not the best for extreme high gain, unless you have a chug pedal or some type of high gain distortion pedal.

  • @smacker360
    @smacker360 Год назад +5

    The selling point for me is all you need is a powered cabinet as the digital pedal is the amp. I'm a baby boomer and love the new digital pedals. My only decision now is which one???

  • @GitShiddy
    @GitShiddy Год назад +2

    So the Millenial rig is: a modern interpretation of a boomer guitar (see Suhr, Friedman, Novo, Revstar, PRS, PJD, etc) often artificially aged, analogue fuzz/drive pedals, digital wet effects usually multi-effect/midi (Styrmon , HX Stomp, H9/H90 etc), tube amp again a modern interpretation of a boomer amp (Suhr, Friedman, Morgan, PRS etc) or a simple modeler (UA Dream, Strymon Iridium, etc) into an IR/ Loadbox with IRs and maybe a 1x12 but likely monitors.

    • @pCeLobster
      @pCeLobster Год назад +1

      Spot on.

    • @GitShiddy
      @GitShiddy Год назад

      @@pCeLobster I'd hope so. I was just looking at my stuff.

  • @nitbot
    @nitbot Год назад +1

    I'm a gen-x who recently started playing guitar again after 20 years. I'm using digital modelling now rather than huge amps + cabs

  • @jamlemon
    @jamlemon Год назад +3

    Millennial here, I’ve had digital effects and amps but these days I prefer solid state amps without digital effects as well as an army of analogue pedals. Had multi effect pedals before but find them over complicated and I like being able to tweak the pedals quickly and easily.
    Also I find that there’s just too much choice when it comes to multi effects and I never used most of them. With individual pedals I’m limited in the sounds I can make and therefore more likely to explore the pedal in more depth.

    • @JohnvanCapel
      @JohnvanCapel Год назад +1

      Other millennial here, I kind of went the opposite direction. I felt limited in a bad way by just having one amp and a basic pedalboard, legit can't tell the difference in sound, and I'm more used to computer interfaces and seeing exact values for parameters - so I went digital and never looked back.

  • @helgijonsson3537
    @helgijonsson3537 Год назад

    Jim Lill had a great point about the whole "it sounds better in the room"-argument in one of his videos. Basically every single guitar tone you hear in your life is being picked up by a microphone (or an IR of a cab/mic combo) and sent to a different speaker. The only exception is when you plug into an amp in the rehearsal space. That's it. Every record and almost every live show, you're not really hearing or projecting the sound of the amp directly at the audience.
    Which is why it doesn't matter what it sounds like "in the room" because almost nobody will ever hear it that way!

  • @andsoistopped
    @andsoistopped Год назад +12

    2 minutes in and this is the most brutal video ever. And I’ve been watching for a lllllllong time. Like when pineapples were being stamped on.

    • @gainbear8853
      @gainbear8853 Год назад +2

      BluesHawk, baby…… BluesHawk.
      Free the Stax Master.

  • @gingataff
    @gingataff Год назад +1

    I’m about the same age as Lee and I’ve always played superstrats and high gain amps before going digital in the mid 2000s.

  • @LaminarSound
    @LaminarSound Год назад +1

    As a Helix power user who has played at church once or twice a week now for close to 9 years, some of time of which I play at other rather larger churches where reliability and professionalism is critical.... my Helix has been far more reliable than any analog board ive built in 20 years. Ive had exactly ZERO problems in the first 5 years running HX Stomp with my analog board and then the last year with full blown Helix. I cant count how many times I spent rehearsals troubleshooting either my amp or my board. I bought a brand new AC15 and it blew on the first gig I took it took back about 6 years ago. At a certain point you just get tired of reliability issues when the digital rig sounds just as good. And i do mean JUST. AS. GOOD. If not better. I have templates I used depending on the situation but even I had to build a patch from scratch, I could do it in less than 5 minutes. This applies to all the major modelling units. They all have their quirks and strengths but once you learn it, theyre far superior in my opinion. When you recognize the drive you need for a lead on a specific song really needs the mid push TS thing, you just swap it instantly. I mean i could spend hours typing out all the useful benefits to ditching an analog board and amp. It all comes down to what your needs are, how you're using your rig, where you're playing and what you like.

  • @ving3573
    @ving3573 Год назад +12

    This was a good lesson on Gen . Had no idea I am a millennial.

    • @maxpeck4154
      @maxpeck4154 Год назад +3

      Most people don't. I'm 46 and get the "OK boomer" bullsh*t all the time. I'm a young GenXer. 🙄

    • @dustylense
      @dustylense Год назад +2

      Only a millennial would say that....

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 Год назад +4

      ​@@maxpeck4154 Its not just age, its behavior based too.

    • @maxpeck4154
      @maxpeck4154 Год назад +2

      @@ileutur6863 Here's an example.
      Me: I prefer tube amps to modelers. Just a personal preference. Modelers are getting better all the time and are virtually indistinguishable from a tube amp in many cases, but I prefer tube amps. Totally subjective of course.
      The guitar Internet: OK Boomer! You're just peddling dinosaur snake oil. Real players can't afford tube amps.
      (My hand wired tube amp: $1500. A Strymon Flint: $299 A Line 6 Helix: $1700).

  • @narendrakrane
    @narendrakrane 10 месяцев назад

    Lee's vibratos and bends are top class!

  • @e-henne
    @e-henne Год назад

    Videos like this definitely prove that the sound in a recording between old and new gear is hard to discern. Amp modelers do the job for most people and are cheaper than say, tube amps. Plugging directly in to the PA (or recording interface) is inherently easier than mic'ing a cab.
    As someone who doesn't record guitar and doesn't play in venues that need a large PA system to push sound - I like analog gear. My tube amp, through a 12 inch speaker just works. Plug in the guitar and turn it on. Same amp for 10 years, works at the flick of a switch. I don't need to be searching for presets, combining cab and head presets, log back in because it logged me out, etc.
    Whenever I use my digital gear, I spend more time tone chasing than playing, because it never sounds as good as advertised (keeping in mind I don't own an axefx, kemper, etc)

  • @baltimoreben1123
    @baltimoreben1123 Год назад +7

    Gen X here with both types of gear, enjoy it all, digital for practice and analog for playing live, played my cloudburst out live this week for the first time. Andertons really brought joy this year while battling a health issue. Appreciate you guys!!

    • @osmeltorres07
      @osmeltorres07 Год назад +1

      Wishing you good health man. From 1 guitarist to another.

  • @wolfy9479
    @wolfy9479 Год назад +5

    I’m right in the middle. Switched over to the helix which has been great for the simplicity of setup and packing. Especially playing mostly church settings, there’s so many patches out there that are built for specific songs that just like he said, at the press of a button you’re changed your tone. Yet on the guitar side, I still run classics like my 58 Murphy lab 😅

  • @bloemundude
    @bloemundude Год назад +2

    Captain and John are both out-of-date. All the cool kids are playing nylon string acoustics and Medieval lutes these days. John Dowland Rules!!

  • @wildesage4172
    @wildesage4172 Год назад +1

    Honestly, the bit at the beginning is a good illustration why I won't use my PC as my guitar amp. Too much hassle. Pain in the ass. And this is coming from someone for whom computers are a WAY bigger passion than guitar. Doesn't matter. I don't wanna lose my ability to play guitar when I'm working on reinstalling windows, or because my graphics driver broke and can't use my computer til I fix it.

  • @B4nksB
    @B4nksB Год назад

    Great solo by John at the end there !!

  • @voyager1568
    @voyager1568 5 месяцев назад

    This is a very interesting dynamic, and I mean no harm in my observant statements.
    You have the captain, who is a man that, yo until a handful of years ago, played the same thing over, and over, and over, and over again. He is sitting here watching John set his gear up, in speculation (because obviously, this is a generation of tubes, power, pedals, and analog).
    The cap has never been “of the best,” and we know this because we’re all proud of his progress.
    However, John came on the scene, purely as himself. He’s a great guitarist, he’s great at working his equipment, he’s almost the antithesis of cap. A young guy who is naturally gifted at not only playing soulful guitar, but technical guitar as well, and being humble enough to know that just because a piece of gear was made “during your time,” it may not necessarily be “the best.” He’s which to change, he’s quick to innovate, and I actually think that as cap keeps growing, John is a great person to have in his corner.

  • @jonkerrmusic
    @jonkerrmusic Год назад +3

    Just RIPPING on him right out of the gate LMAO incredible

  • @drcockles
    @drcockles Год назад

    “I like reading lights”; this video was hilarious 😂

  • @ivorharden
    @ivorharden Год назад +2

    I hate this whole generation x,y,z categorising people thing. We are all humans regardless of age.

  • @fipbip2794
    @fipbip2794 9 месяцев назад

    I think I'll probably always be an LP through a pedal board to an amp type of guy and update and swap pedals along the way. There's something nostalgic and classic about it that I can't get away from.

  • @Gene_Cali
    @Gene_Cali Год назад +20

    Lee's playing is a testament to his love for the instrument. he has so much to oversee and manage on a daily basis, yet his musical skills show he's being true to his love of tones and playing guitar. It's like watching Bob Ross paint. Pure Joy. 🙂 All Anderton's videos are fun and informative without being pushy sales gimmicks! Thanks everyone, music unites us all.

    • @rvaguitars
      @rvaguitars Год назад +3

      His lead playing has been getting better and better too

    • @Davo2233
      @Davo2233 Год назад

      M

    • @xxxxneoxxxx
      @xxxxneoxxxx Год назад

      ​@@rvaguitarsagreed

  • @teerexness
    @teerexness 2 месяца назад

    I've been playing for 45+ years and I went from tube amps and pedalboards to a Helix. My back thanks me. it's also more versatile, dependable and family friendly at home. I've dialed things in to the point which I think my Helix rig now sounds better than the analog stuff did. It gets better with every firmware update and it's exactly the same at every gig. Also, since most of us still seem to be making 1980s money at gigs, I feel much better about making one easy trip to and from the car for setting up and tearing down. I can also enjoy the drive to gigs in a sports sedan instead of a van or SUV now!

  • @iancurrie8844
    @iancurrie8844 9 месяцев назад +1

    I find in my old age that I just like a clean amp and the me-80 in manual mode. Very similar to having stomp boxes with twiddly dials but also an all-in-one.

  • @knockoutguitarist087
    @knockoutguitarist087 Год назад

    Millennial Rig: my iPad with bias fx 2 set on jimmy page live 73, ran into the effects loop of my Marshall mg100hdfx with two 4x12 in my room….or on stage plugged into my Monoprice stage right combo effects loop and my Gibson les Paul standard hp or my Baja telecaster… a nice mix of analog and digital… it’s just easier to have everything already preset I just press a button and have a new soundscape and tones without lugging a bunch of pedals and buying heavy amp heads and cabs… stage playing is so much easier and it all fits in my car and a backpack

  • @seanzinger
    @seanzinger Год назад

    If you’re gigging the answer is pretty easy. You go with digital John. But at home it’s more fun to have an amp and pedals.

  • @archiiebarrett
    @archiiebarrett Год назад +1

    While modeling is great for practice, recording and even gigging, I strongly believe every guitarist should have at least 1 traditional rig built to their "sound." its part of being a guitarist. Most traditional rigs today are hybrids to a degree anyway if you are using any modern equipment or pedals. But a real Mesa, Marshall or Vox in a room, cranked, playing out of a set of nice Celestians or Jenson speaker, with a real spring reverb..... there's just nothing like that pushed "real" tube breakup that hits you in the soul.

  • @howardbwade
    @howardbwade Год назад +10

    I’m a boomer (born in 1955). I use a “real” amp rig with mostly analog pedals (digital delay and reverb) into a 5E3 clone and an Alessandro Boxer (black panel deluxe-ish) with a gigrig G3 switcher which gives me midi control of the delay and the ability to split the signal path. And I use a direct rig with a Line 6 HX Effects and a Hologram Microcosm in the HX loop into a Strymon Iridium. I use each rig for its strengths. The “real” amp rig gives me that blow-my-pant-legs thing. The direct rig yields a “studio processed” sound. I think many, if not most, pros now have both. The gen x vs gen z dichotomy, while fun as a video premise, is ultimately false. This is the golden age of both analog/tube amp sound and digital modeling. Why not have both? By the way the “real” rig is by far the more expensive.

    • @josuastangl7140
      @josuastangl7140 Год назад

      100%

    • @13_cmi
      @13_cmi Год назад

      I got a little digital amp sim thingy and it’s a life saver. My instruments sound good and it doesn’t take up space or cost me a whole years salary.

  • @MaxYourTracks
    @MaxYourTracks Год назад

    Digital: is ready for stage and mix, so for a production and live its good to go and super practical.
    Full analog rig: it just feels fun for me as an individual to have a real amp and cab. Less menu diving, less screentime

  • @martyshwaartz971
    @martyshwaartz971 Год назад +10

    Both rigs sound great!

  • @larryb3946
    @larryb3946 10 месяцев назад

    Well hmmm that QC definitely has all the sounds, but I felt the sound coming from Lee's PB sounded more dynamic and interesting. Idk
    Thanks for doing this video!

  • @alexwoolridge94aw
    @alexwoolridge94aw Год назад +1

    I was born 1/1994 but I'm an old soul at heart. Give me a good ol tube amp, a Les Paul and a cable. I do use a few pedals along with a tuner pedal but all in all I always go simple rig at gigs. I'll never go the download your rig route

  • @bueller8278
    @bueller8278 Год назад

    sick burns on the intro Lee

  • @KRayxKodessA
    @KRayxKodessA Год назад +1

    Currently I'm going: Tube amp -> UA OX box -> computer (with pedals mixed in).

  • @FabrizioPeretti
    @FabrizioPeretti Год назад +2

    I keep seeing this mistake being made: trying to get digital to make what analog makes.
    The sense of a digital pedalboard is to taylor tones ON THE SONG, that's when you stop feeling overwhelmed by the options😂
    Also, you're always comparing the same tones but (just an example) what if you need to have completely different gain structures? Like a mid focused thing and a scooped chug one?
    That's when you discover the "limitations" of a physical cab agains IRs.
    I would love you to get deep through this stuff 😊❤

  • @MartinStrang
    @MartinStrang Год назад

    Ím a millenial one of the oldest (1980) when i started playing at 13 there was only Gen X gear available anyway. My first digital rig used a POD XT Live. Nothing stellar… but nowadays I’m all digital GEN Z Rig, great stuff nowadays, practical and as good sounding as most analog gear.

  • @SEGREDOSPROIBIDOS1
    @SEGREDOSPROIBIDOS1 Год назад

    Whoever mixed the first jam wasn’t happy with Lee lol

  • @andrewsallee6044
    @andrewsallee6044 Год назад +2

    Heck, I'm a Boomer and I'm 100% digital… well, I'M analog, but my guitar amps are all digital.

  • @mukundvermaa
    @mukundvermaa Год назад +2

    I would love to have a Pedal board like Gilmour or Mayer with a fancy valve amp but I can't. So I'll have to settle with a digital solution until I'm rich enough. One day I will though :')

  • @Blackeyedangel
    @Blackeyedangel Год назад

    I love how the captain says that he thinks the modelers sound off from a regular amp, but when he does the blind tests he can't tell the difference between the amps. lmao.

  • @Sandman60077
    @Sandman60077 Год назад +1

    As a Gen X'er I don't agree with that Gen X rig, that's more of a Boomer rig. I think a Gen X rig would be something like an ESP into A Mesa Duel Rectifier with a Tube Screamer.

  • @budgetguitarist
    @budgetguitarist Год назад

    I'm 57 years old, and my entire rig is an HX Stomp. And I love it. But I do own a couple of tube amps, and I'm not selling them.

  • @Foodgeek
    @Foodgeek Год назад

    I'm Gen X and I love digital :D

  • @MartinCraneRockbeast
    @MartinCraneRockbeast 10 месяцев назад +1

    Watching pedal owners do the on your knees position chase the loose connection on their floorboard. Convinced me a long time ago that having a shop full of pedals at your feet is the way to go.
    Once had a bassist on the verge of calling off the gig because of his gigantic pedalboard. I pointed out to him he could just plug his bass straight into the amp. Seen Guitarists praying for that one pedal cable or battery to be bypassed too.
    Ardent Helix user.

  • @algorithm007ify
    @algorithm007ify Год назад +1

    KEMPER KABINET does "Amp/Cab in the room" simulation (i.e., no microphone)... This addresses Lee's criticism.

  • @GraniteSoundtrack
    @GraniteSoundtrack Год назад +1

    I think boomer could also be a fender or gibby into a Marshall full stack. Hendrix, Clapton, page etc… we’re technically boomers. That definwins because then you can’t here the gen Z guy’s computer sound effect guitar sounds at all.

  • @macgibbon
    @macgibbon Год назад +1

    I'm a "Real amp" guy, but right at the start during the montage of giving shit for setting up the modeller, I thought "I'm sure I remember a pedalboard building video fairly recently which took DAYS to do"

  • @sebbo1496
    @sebbo1496 Год назад

    that thumbnail is fantastic, hahaha

  • @El-Scorcho
    @El-Scorcho Год назад +3

    I love Lee's phrasing "an almighty faff" 😂😂

  • @EJH-jn6mo
    @EJH-jn6mo Год назад +1

    Ironically, Gen X is the generation that predominantely responsible for the design of today's digital. Anyway, I use both analog and digital myself but I only use digital when I have to... Quite simply because digital does not sound/feel as good coming out of a cab. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to you and themselves. That being said, digital is very good has its place.

  • @jonhale1329
    @jonhale1329 Год назад +1

    Please do an all Gens shootout! - that would be great - Horses for courses if you ask me

  • @NatCurrier
    @NatCurrier Год назад

    I am with you Lee... the noise gate drives me nuts

  • @TheCommonSenseProfessor
    @TheCommonSenseProfessor Год назад +8

    GenXer here that loves the GenZ setups. One of the best decisions that I made was buying a Fender GTX 50 Amp. It saved me so much money and sounds so great.

  • @edesbalazs
    @edesbalazs Год назад +1

    Modeler, simply because of how much crap I don't have to carry, and how many kilometers of wire I dont have to keep tidy 😂

  • @JBGoode-zx7pp
    @JBGoode-zx7pp Год назад +1

    If your gear doesn’t cost more than your car, if your stack doesn’t weigh more than a modest refrigerator, if your amp doesn’t glow red and sound louder than a 747 taking off -
    you’re doing it wrong. 😉

  • @blainetrain2299
    @blainetrain2299 Год назад +4

    Lee is in rare form today. This was a blast to watch.

  • @shaharzur6153
    @shaharzur6153 Год назад +1

    You should have added a bomer with original 1959 es-335 and fender tweed deluxe.

  • @MartinStromer85
    @MartinStromer85 Год назад

    Digital: Economy
    Analog: Poetry
    Both are important, but the second gives spice to life

  • @sacredgeometry
    @sacredgeometry Год назад +1

    5:30 then set it up properly you absolute trumpet.
    Put it through a power amp and a normal cab with cab emulation turned off.

  • @Anton_the_Vampire
    @Anton_the_Vampire Год назад +1

    Fascinating. I'm Gen X, but weirdly only used Roland multi-effects til last year! Now, I'm building a "proper" but affordable pedalboard. I can see the attraction of individual pedals from many sides: ease of use, changeability, but also collectability. Part of the appeal for me is the search for the perfect pedal, the perfect tone, & how that can change over time. I never felt that with multi-effect units. On an aside, how about doing a series on rigs from all the generations in turn? Obviously, Gen A might be an issue, but Milennial could be a challenge as to where it sits, & there's got to be options on boomer. BTW, Eric Johnson, Steve Vai, & Yngwie Malmsteen are boomers. Just saying. Lol

    • @niloben659
      @niloben659 Год назад

      the search for the perfect pedal is tiring, a modeller stops the gas

    • @constantk8780
      @constantk8780 Год назад

      ​@@niloben659yeah, then you just start jumping around between modellers.

  • @somebodyelseuk
    @somebodyelseuk Год назад

    Gen X here... I use whatever gear works, but I'm not traumatised by Springwatch.
    Biggest problem with new gear, and it doesn't matter whether it's digital or analogue, if/when it breaks down, you go and try getting it repaired.

  • @david_farmer
    @david_farmer Год назад +2

    Gen X here I guess - '65. Since around '90 I got totally used to hearing guitar over stereo/hifi type speakers. Being a non-gigging hobbyist (who still buys loads pf stuff) that's been my preferred wy of going about it for years. I like the recall as well, and hearing something a few days later in a recording and examining which patch I like to listen to. It's usually one with much less gain that what I feel like I like playing through. But I can always recall a patch/preset and do a different take and have the recording be seamless.
    There's something I'd love to know more about. I have tons of friends who play and regularly buy gear, but almost none of us are in a band or even play regularly. But we talk abut gear and buy stuff almost as if we are gigging musicians. I'd love to know more about the market, and how many people who watch this channel and buy stuff are gigging musicians, and how many are hobbyists that just like to muck around.

  • @neilweir-smith8228
    @neilweir-smith8228 Год назад +3

    One of the other advantages of digital (at least some of them, QC is an example) is that you also get the ability to have two different rigs at the same time for the cost of the one unit. For example, I am using my QC at the moment to run both guitar and bass for worship at church which reduces the amount of gear we need to move around while our building is being renovated as we can't just leave the stage set up.

    • @Dr.Jekyll
      @Dr.Jekyll Год назад

      That’s a good point. On the flip side, if the QC goes down, multiple instruments go down. So there are pros and cons.

  • @marklloyd3762
    @marklloyd3762 Год назад +2

    Traditional every time, guitar, amp and a couple of pedals