@@brettuhl7818 Yeah! Andy mixed the first two Rage albums, but by the time they got to the Battle of LA Brendan was mixing them. Makes sense as Evil Empire is just about the only album he’s ever produced that he didn’t also mix
Honestly listening to these isolated tracks really helps me be more okay with little mistakes in my own recordings. I used to sweat for hours to get a perfect take, when in reality, nobody's gonna hear in the mix that I slightly messed up that one note in the middle of a riff.
Thats right yes, I know its the same thing but isolated reveals a super nice triplet lick which I personally hadn't noticed. Also it's a drop in. Great stuff.
@@SnarkyMediaGroup I got to see Prophets of Rage live and had GA tickets and got there early enough to stand right along the barricade in front of Tim Commerford's spot on stage. Got to watch him play this song from 15 feet away and it was amazing.
had this record with me in my backpack on round about 120 private parties if not more. it hurts like shit that none of those i cellebrated with are known anymore, i actually banged my head off to this. it still is "the new" record in my mind. a feeling as if you notice that you left your favourite toy in the vacation home per accident. i seriously cannot cope or resonate with modern music including most metal or esp alternative metal.
This should be a strong and clear lesson in the sheer carrying power of a well written song. The key is to write songs that have such a powerful energy about them that that makes everything else make sense. The guitar playing, bass playing and drums are quite sloppy on a lot of Rage songs. By sloppy I don't mean they're bad musicians. I mean that as professional musicians go, these takes would never be approved or make it to the final cut. But because the song itself is SO well written, sung and performed with such energy and intent, it makes all of this work. If Rage came out with this album sounding pristine from a technical viewpoint, it would still blow everyone's socks off and everyone would still love it. Then people would not be talking about how good it is because it's so raw, they'd be talking about how great the excellent production is. Case in point - Tool, Soad, Korn, Slipknot, Lamb Of God, Gojira, Deftones, Kendrik Lamar, Childish Gambino, Billie Eilish. If you're reading this and going naaaw, RATM 'feel' like they're in a league of their own, you're right. It feels like that because that's the power of writing a good song! A song that stays relevant 30 years later. Everything else comes later or retrofits. Write a good song. Perform it like your life depended on it. These 2 things are the ONLY things that matter. Man I fuckin LOVE Rage.
Jin Qures Nope, what I said is true. His Stingray was stolen after the first album, and he switched to a Jazz bass with pickups that he wound himself. Go ahead, look it up, he didn’t start using a stingray again until Prophets of Rage.
To emphasize the lick and make sure it is heard. Guitarists usually have a pedal they press before playing a solo which increases the volume to make sure the guitar is heard. Bassists usually don't have this kind of pedal, so they play extra hard to make sure their licks or "little solos" are heard. Another example of this is Dani California by RHCP, where Flea does not hit his strings as heard as Tim here but also hits a little harder to emphasize the lick and make sure it comes out among the other instruments.
Eric eGamer He used a dual amp setup, with one amp going through a fuzz pedal, and the othet amp is clean. He kicks on the fuzz on some parts, and turns it off on others.
No. It's his neck pickup. Trust me. He used a Fender Jazz in this song and I have a Fender Jazz and they both sound exactly alike with the neck pickup on
I can't believe how precise and spot on his playing his. His tone is nowhere near sloppy either.
I like how the fuzz bass is panned left but the clean bass remains in the center
Because you pan the guitar to the right!
Brendan o Brien is a genius
@@brettuhl7818 He produced this album, but it was actually the equally legendary Andy Wallace who mixed it
@@User-jk8wq really? Damn that's xooly
@@brettuhl7818 Yeah! Andy mixed the first two Rage albums, but by the time they got to the Battle of LA Brendan was mixing them. Makes sense as Evil Empire is just about the only album he’s ever produced that he didn’t also mix
He misses the overdrive on the final riff - I love that they kept it like this. The energy of the entire take is so good it overrides mere details!
Honestly listening to these isolated tracks really helps me be more okay with little mistakes in my own recordings. I used to sweat for hours to get a perfect take, when in reality, nobody's gonna hear in the mix that I slightly messed up that one note in the middle of a riff.
That was probably a decision of the mixer rather than Tim. There are 2 bass tracks in this mix.
2:25 you're welcome
The fill in the bridge before the solo is so much tastier than what you hear on the album!!
but friend it is in the album version you can hear it it's just quiet
Thats right yes, I know its the same thing but isolated reveals a super nice triplet lick which I personally hadn't noticed. Also it's a drop in. Great stuff.
Check out a live version.ruclips.net/video/0W6WZK3AfKE/видео.html
@@SnarkyMediaGroup I got to see Prophets of Rage live and had GA tickets and got there early enough to stand right along the barricade in front of Tim Commerford's spot on stage. Got to watch him play this song from 15 feet away and it was amazing.
It's too sexy
fuckin insane bass tone!!! tim is a genius
How did i sleep on Tim's Bass Playing😭 Tone is brilliant 🤘
This dude is the man no doubt about that .
This shit is better than the song with all the instruments in it.
Only just realised that the picture moves down slowly.
damn son
oh thats creepy.
imovie
I already realized duh we know!
had this record with me in my backpack on round about 120 private parties if not more. it hurts like shit that none of those i cellebrated with are known anymore, i actually banged my head off to this. it still is "the new" record in my mind. a feeling as if you notice that you left your favourite toy in the vacation home per accident. i seriously cannot cope or resonate with modern music including most metal or esp alternative metal.
How did I not find this before? I've been looking for it for a while now. Whatever, this was posted on my birthday!
Haooy birthday 3 years ago
Happy*
This should be a strong and clear lesson in the sheer carrying power of a well written song.
The key is to write songs that have such a powerful energy about them that that makes everything else make sense.
The guitar playing, bass playing and drums are quite sloppy on a lot of Rage songs. By sloppy I don't mean they're bad musicians. I mean that as professional musicians go, these takes would never be approved or make it to the final cut.
But because the song itself is SO well written, sung and performed with such energy and intent, it makes all of this work.
If Rage came out with this album sounding pristine from a technical viewpoint, it would still blow everyone's socks off and everyone would still love it. Then people would not be talking about how good it is because it's so raw, they'd be talking about how great the excellent production is. Case in point - Tool, Soad, Korn, Slipknot, Lamb Of God, Gojira, Deftones, Kendrik Lamar, Childish Gambino, Billie Eilish. If you're reading this and going naaaw, RATM 'feel' like they're in a league of their own, you're right. It feels like that because that's the power of writing a good song! A song that stays relevant 30 years later.
Everything else comes later or retrofits. Write a good song. Perform it like your life depended on it. These 2 things are the ONLY things that matter.
Man I fuckin LOVE Rage.
Sounds like the cliff burton fuzz pedal ngl
My favorite tone of all time... anybody notice the error near the end?
fatkidinabucket sounds like a Music Man bass
Miroslav Bass This is a jazz bass, not a MM. He only used the Stingray on the first album.
@@blib3786 wrong
Jin Qures Nope, what I said is true. His Stingray was stolen after the first album, and he switched to a Jazz bass with pickups that he wound himself. Go ahead, look it up, he didn’t start using a stingray again until Prophets of Rage.
@@blib3786 that's a right explane
the 2:25 riff it's ok , but the 2:29 is hard like a mothafucka
Holy fuck! 0:50
Shit sounds like it could be Perfect Cell's theme
Is a jazz bass with a neck of a presicion bass
really?
how did he get that tone?
Ger Afonso fuzz pedal
And a Jazz Bass
Parker Davidson that doesn't sound like a jazz
He means the bass model Fender Jazz Bass
Nope. Stingray
It appears that the entire album (or at least this song) was recorded live off the floor with minimal overdubs. So much microphone bleed.
I like his tone with the jazz bass but it think he should've stayed with the stingray, he is an amazing player all round tho
Justin chancellor and Tim brings the best bass tone ever created
Why is playing the bass lick at 2:24 so hard
Was really made at the elite maybe?
To emphasize the lick and make sure it is heard. Guitarists usually have a pedal they press before playing a solo which increases the volume to make sure the guitar is heard. Bassists usually don't have this kind of pedal, so they play extra hard to make sure their licks or "little solos" are heard. Another example of this is Dani California by RHCP, where Flea does not hit his strings as heard as Tim here but also hits a little harder to emphasize the lick and make sure it comes out among the other instruments.
Mister tim commenford !!!! For RATM !!!! madafakas !!!!!
Is there distortion, I can't tell
Eric eGamer at least a little bit all the time, then he kicks it up a notch for the loud parts
there is natural distortion due to the stingray being an active bass with the treble set all the way up.
Felipe Giraldo Alright good to know, at least this is how I got the tone on my stingray
Eric eGamer He used a dual amp setup, with one amp going through a fuzz pedal, and the othet amp is clean. He kicks on the fuzz on some parts, and turns it off on others.
At some points it sounds like he's using a pick. It might be just me, but still...
MrDudeguitar0 he uses his fingers. it's just the neck pickup volume is boosted
Yeah, I agree!
No. It's his neck pickup. Trust me. He used a Fender Jazz in this song and I have a Fender Jazz and they both sound exactly alike with the neck pickup on
In bombtrack he uses the bridge pickup
+BlackDog Thomas In my opinion it sounds like the bridge pickup at the end because it's has more of an open sound to it.
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