Great review as always cardboard bots! However I have a question. When voting for a figure do the two figures that don’t win never get the chance to be reviewed again? Thank you!
Great question. I suppose there's always a chance that a losing robot might appear again. I wouldn't hold my breath, but remember no one knows what is going to ever come out of the mystery box. I've also been toying with an idea of a battle of the losers tournament.
Cardboard Bots cool review.just found your channel and subbed..yep i agree he was skywarp as bombshell turned up in a number of episodes AFTER the movie...now not to start another debate but was that an animation error or was it an insecticon clone or the real bombshell...or was ita clone that became the "other" cyclonus in the movie.lol.
Cardboard Bots also another reason i say he was skywarp is if you listen to the voices you can hear a hint of skywarps voice when cyclonus speaks despite the fact they were voiced by different actors...im not sure if that was the idea or if its just a coincidence but it's definatly there if you listen carefully.☺
It doesn't keep me up at night, but it just seems to be an error and and oversight. The main thrust of the scene is that Unicron uses old bots to create new ones. In the end it doesn't matter which is which because I think both characters end up returning in either the animation of the movie or show as animation errors.
I try to hold my comments till after, but I'm 2 minutes in and..... WHAT?! Smaller than a titan master and you just made him just up and climb out of the cockpit and casually walk his way down the nose?! Wow man. Mad props
There were three things very early on in my “storyboarding” stage (less storyboarding and more sketching-ideas-before-I-forget-them-stage): • A Dragon Ball Z power-up transformation. • A He-Man transformation. • And in the bot mode comparison, everyone loses a head. The He-Man bit was going to be the first origin piece. It was going to have special effects, glowing lines, and sparks, but the masking would have driven me bat shit crazy. I need a green screen backdrop for stuff like that to make the masking instantaneous. The Super Saiyan-esque transformation was supposed to be the end gag. I was going to make people work for it. It would have been several minutes long… because that’s the crazy sh*t that DBZ was like. Anyway I got the feeling that people were chopping at the bit for the next review so, I threw the DBZ transformation out early as something to tide folks over. And because I really wanted to post something… because I was getting excited for it too. I can really see now what you mean know about Eligos sort of looking like Semi Perfect Cell. I should have used a picture of Cell when I was talking about that part, but he didn’t come to mind at the time. I didn’t watch much DBZ after the Frieza saga. I’m pretty sure I could have done a 5 minute segment just about Cyclonus’ head and mecha/samurai influences. I had so many comparisons in mind but I decided not to do all that, because I knew I would be running long. Some of the easiest parts to animate were the little bots, Galvatron and Truncheon. Galvatron was easy because he was so light and the smallest amount of sticky tack kept him in place. He was even easier to animate than the larger titan masters. Truncheon was an absolute joy. The whole thing was built around the bot comparisons which doesn’t happen till the end. Hopefully people make it that far. I can see that some people might get bored of me talking about the plane mode and screw heads and not make it to the good stuff. In the “plans” each bot compared loses a head and their body collapses onto the previous bots that came before it… like a Monty Python sketch that was in really poor taste: “What’s all this then?” SWACK! Head rolls. Body drops. Rinse and repeat. At that early stage I decided against that because: (a) it would be a lot of work and (b) it was more than a little morbid. What’s wrong with me that I make the toys so violent? I had wanted to get DNA’s Susanoo in the near future, but I’m rethinking that - as it would mean only more bot-on-bot violence. Here’s the damage: Just over 4,000 stills taken 63 hours of work logged from pencil-to-publish I won’t be doing that again anytime soon. For my next review I’m going to explore some shortcuts. While I like to animate as much as possible, I need to focus and learn that not everything needs to be animated. Monty Python sketch about death: ruclips.net/video/RYNnF3TjSEw/видео.html
@@CardboardBots problem is there were a few groups of animators, each in charge of different parts of the movie. Hence the wild range of animation quality. There were also parts of the story that were added and subtracted mid process. Tons of errors from snarl being in some scenes, swoop running across the screen during the seige on autobot city. Sunstreaker already being at autobot city but later arriving with prime. Point is there was supposed to be two cyclonus's. I think from an earlier script. So scenes were animated that made no sense but stayed in the movie. Remember prime asking megatron "that's a question you should ask yourself megatron " but appeared to be standing back up? When in the scene b4 he was upright. He was supposed to be attacked from behind by dirge. He catches him and slams him into the ground. Then continues the scene. Lots of storyboard scenes that were cut or never animated.
Thank-you, Karamoko Lopez. I am in the voice-over/sound fx stage of a new review. It should be ready sometime next week. Eligos makes a brief appearance in it also.
I'm really proud of that Cyclonus review. I'm stoked that it rose above being just a regular review for you. I feel like every reviewer should find a hook that works for them.
Thanks WindCharger, you make some good videos too. I knew I was making something quite long and I wasn't sure if people would stick around for the "good" parts. I'm glad you did and found it enjoyable.
Thanks, origally that video was going to be his origin and the Super Saiyan powered up was going to be the end gag.... A much, much longer end gag as some of those Dragon Ball Z power-ups are very long.
Very cool video sir! I thoroughly enjoy your representations of all the transformers that you review! You are correct, Scourge is a really cool bot. When I got mine, I wanted the three that came together, but they were all out. So instead, I just got 3 Andreas's instead. Did not get the extras, but oh well, it will work. Beautiful colors with the purple on Eligos. Thanks for the vids. Please continue on!!
Yes they are good bat for my experience till know, they made them stupid complicated. I've worked with many 3d party figures as MMC,TFC, Make toys, Unique toys and they are very good and they give you the result without so complicate transformation. The X-Transbot and the Badqube, are the only figures with difficult transformations.
Who actually doubts that what you've shown DIRECTLY from the canon film in terms of Cyclonus' origins is true? LOL Superb review, as always. I appreciate the heck out of these. I know how much work this takes!
Fantastic work here, not see your vids before [no idea how I been missing these] but you must work damn hard and have put a lot of time into these. Brilliant! Subbed.
Everyone starts somewhere and one thing that helps us get better at something is practice. Lots of practice. Also, my wife gave me a fancy microphone for Christmas. Good tools certainly help too. Still have a long way to go...
Crazy how different this looks with the new paint scheme that's about to release. Looking forward to getting it. Was gonna drop $200 on FT, but I prefer my Cyclonus chunky. If this sculpt's paintjob looks as good IRL as the photo's, this is my pick.
Thanks... 17 minutes is torture to make, but I did a lot of talking and making some points during this video. Ideally, I want to make condensed videos that are only 5 or 6 minutes long.
And Missfire, the greatest pink-con that ever was. ^_^ So, looks like Eligos is a "toy not meant for play" deal, eh? Too bad. At least there's the 2008 universe toy for a 'swing it around and make laser sound effects' experience. XD CW Cyclonus is pretty good too. Cyclonus: the subjective bot of settle-down-he's-cool-either-way.
Papersamurai00, he's good for playing, as I personally put him through his paces. He falls down in the execution of his transformation. The transformation is very smart, but the tolerances of connecting pieces is off in going to jet mode. I think he's a little musclebound when it comes to posing. Many of the bigger bots seem to have this problem. They look cool AF but are not as agile as some of the slimmer bots. Like you said he's cool either way.... But going in between is no fun at all. The new Misfire is probably 20 times more fun to transform.
I showed my non-TF buddy the cropped clip from the 86 movie that I used showing only Skywarp turning into a Cyclonus-type. He said, "It's obvious that Skywarp turns into Cyclonus. Why would anyone think that he turns into Bombshell?" I didn't bother to show him the uncropped clip at the time. I like the idea of another Cyclonus or an "Armada" out there as well. Sort of there be two Will Rikers in Star Trek NG. To me it's obvious that Bombshell is the one turning into Cyclonus. It's also obvious that the movie and episodes are full of animation errors, and mis-colourings, and incorrect use of character design reference material. The case for Skywarp/Cyclonus is more logical to me but that's more "head cannon" than anything else. I don't lose sleep over who turned into what. Rumble being red, that's another story though!!!
@@CardboardBots Actually, I enlarged the hole. I also trimmed the tab where his back flap behind the cockpit goes under his legs so I can get him out of jet mode easier. I've transformed him loads of times with no problems.
no problem... except I didn’t knowing make a Hamlet reference. what part do you think alluded to Hamlet? Was it the little cassette guy vowing revenge?
The Skywarp to Cyclonus transformation done up in the style ans to the tune of Prince Adam of Eternia becoming He-Man was brilliant! Too bad you could not have added in the thunder and lightning visuals.
I could have and I wanted to, but without doing it on a green screen, it would have been too time consuming. I could still do it in my leisure, but it would be a ton of work doing the masking.
Sweet he won! as much as i love how this looks i dont really think i'd get him mainly because i dont collect MP's but he looks beautiful and if i did collect MP's you have me sold. despite the flaws it seems like a nice display piece. Keep up the great work dude. looking forward to what's next.
Thanks TFA1024, Eligos doesn't lend himself to crazy dynamic posing but he's more than fine with his articulation. He is very imposing and menacing and is a top notch display piece. He projects toughness!
Well this one took an absurdly long time. Luckily I logged all my hours working on it this time, because I wanted to know myself. While I don't have my log book in front of me at the moment, I'm sure it was in excess of 40 hours. That includes the planning, just over 4,000 photos that I shot, research, editing photos of old toys, video editing, sound editing... everything. I go down a lot of rabit holes when I do research. For instance I spent an evening researching Super Saiyan transformations. An evening researching HE-Man. I have to watch videos to understand how to transform the toy. Then I have to practice that off camera. It's a lot of "research." For the record, I don't want to spend that much time on a project again. I want to streamline my process. I have to learn to work smarter, not longer. Most of the time I work in spurts of 1 or 2 hours in the evening. On the weekends I can usually double or triple that. This time, I wasted a lot of time on animating vehicles and robots coming and going for comparisons. I can really do that with one simple shot that pops in and out. BLOOP: this is Galvatron. BLOOP: Here he is next to Combiner Wars Cyclonus: BLOOP: Here he is next to Starscream. It could be that simple, but I went overboard. I think there is merit to me animating some core stuff and then finding short cuts like when Spike is picking up and throwing down mini Galvatron. I think that stuff is funny. It communicates what I want, but at the same time it's easy to do. When I add my hours together, I'll post it here.
TFA1024, I just looked at my logs and from start to finish, February 8 to March 11, the total time worked added up to 63 hours! That averages out to about 2 hours and 2 minutes per day for 31 day! I think I'm going to go somewhere and cry now...
Always regarded Cyclonus from the 80s cartoon as a rational idiot. Rational because he was saner than his leader. Of course that's not too huge a statement, given that EVERYBODY'S more sane than Galvatron. And idiot because, well, he'd have to be to think that an abusive, triggerhappy lunatic was the best choice for Con King.
A samurai is loyal to his master, even if his master is flawed. The alternative would be ritual suicide. He has a warrior's honour... even if we disagree in it. Blind loyalty is not a trait that I'm fond of.
Watching this in 2021, and looking at the part when Cyclonus is holding Ultra Mag's head all Shakespeare-like gave me an Earthrise vibe. Too soon, too soon
Great review video. After Hatch and Boost I was done with XTB. The quality just doesn't work for me. KFC tends to fair a little better, but there are more duds than successes. Huff vs. krank is where .my XTB distain comes from.
I've got several KFC bots and I like them, but this is my first X-Transbot. This does seem like a steep in quality than some of the KFC stuff, but the KFC stuff seems more sturdy as toys. I like the look of XTB's Trailbreaker.
Thanks for the praise, but I don't think I want to do a tutorial as I'd rather spend my limited time actually making a review. I'm still learning stuff about this all the time. Graf-X motion has doing some cool making of/tutorial videos.
Cardboard Bots I'd have no problem with it flopping about inside. I just want to know it'll fit. I'm one of the rare collectors who base their collection on vehicle scale so I try and scale everything vehicle wise with the Diaclones.
While I've never seen a real diaclone pilot in person, those were pretty small and I say those would fit. I tried putting the little Galvatron in MP Starscream as a pilot and he was too big. I think I've seen a picture were a diaclone pilot fits in MP Starscream. ... Or maybe I'm confusing that with the new diaclone pilots!
Yeeeeaaaah, parts of that felt a little pervy while I was making it too. I might have gone into it too... his name was Nightstick... but lots of young folks watch these videos.
If I might make a request, can you change up your lighting or camera settings a little? A lot of the detail just gets washed out due to the harsh yellow lighting.
Jomaster, you are absolutely right. I have my eyes on a lighting kit with soft boxes to help get more even light and diffuse any strong directional light. Just got to save up enough. More than anything, I need to make space to set the lights further back from the subjects. I'm taking your feedback to heart.
I'm the same way when I watch other people's animation. I say, "How did they do that? How did it stay balanced, how did that projectile move across the screen? Or man that's a nice camera angle or movement!" New short REVEAL video coming out in about 2 or 3 hours.
Dude I know you've probably heard this before but you do not get enough credit for what you do at ALL. This must have taken you hours upon hours of shooting, editing, blah blah blah.... and you have tons of these videos and only 943 subs? Well, as long as you like what you're doing (which you almost definitely do considering how high quality your reviews are). Sorry for the rant, just really appreciate what you do. Anybody who's reading this, go ahead and give this guy a sub, he deserves it. Good luck!
Verrry Nice, that was very nice of you to say. I think, I'll break 1,000 subscribers with this video. One thing, I haven't done has been to hound people for subs. I hope people share the videos with their friends and if they want to rock a particular vote for a certain choice it would be as easy as asking friends to vote in a campaign. Building subs organically is okay. I'm glad people are enjoying this hobby with me.
Thanks BaG. Bewary about transforming him if you get him. Also, if TF characters are not robots beholden to some very limited programming, then I don't know what they are. If they are a cybernetic alien species they still heavily depend on mimicking other life formers and cultures... Almost as if they need to copy because thy cannot live on their own.
Cardboard Bots i know very few people care at all about the marvel comics anymore (me myself only having enjoyed them via the subs on tfwiki) at least when it comes with representation in toy form, so trying to krater(sic) to there needs is pointless (with the expedition of the toy world cosmos using gold). It's not like it really matters anyways though, since marvel used almost the same character models (with a few expections) aside from color wise (and I think I am the only person in the world who likes the sometimes random usage of color the characters sported). I really don't care too much but more comparisons are always better imo. (You could also include studio Oxs designs too, since many unofficial mps are using thoses designs, but it its just a suggestion)
You may be right. There certainly is strong evidence to support Bombshell. But if I'm to be honest, I don't have any Bombshell toys. Ssssh, don't tell anyone.
Throw the card boxes out and do a proper background. And then your videos will be the best reviews on yt. Every other aspect is just perfect. Got yourself a fan. 👏👏👏💟
Thank you very much. The cardboard is sort of my thing, but I’ll take it under consideration. I think with the right amount of space and better, more even lighting it would look a whole lot better.
Vote in the link to the poll at the top of the video screen. It's a circle with an "i" inside. If you really want Huffer to win you may have to recruit some friends to rock the vote.
@@CardboardBots most of the mainline figures are accurate representations of the g1 character and you can trust are consistently good quality. When they mess up tho , they mess up BAD like with rhinos or tracks
It’s so weird rewatching this having Kingdom Cyclonus. I used to think this thing was awesome! Now it just looks overpriced, oversized, and practically outdone by a voyager :\
You are not wrong. Kingdom Cyclonus us much more functional and affordable. My mind is blown by it. The transformation on Eligos is painful. Especially because you have a old chipping paint on the nosecone. Kingdom Cyclonus is like bot-of-the-year level good.
Great review as always cardboard bots! However I have a question. When voting for a figure do the two figures that don’t win never get the chance to be reviewed again? Thank you!
Great question. I suppose there's always a chance that a losing robot might appear again. I wouldn't hold my breath, but remember no one knows what is going to ever come out of the mystery box. I've also been toying with an idea of a battle of the losers tournament.
Cardboard Bots cool review.just found your channel and subbed..yep i agree he was skywarp as bombshell turned up in a number of episodes AFTER the movie...now not to start another debate but was that an animation error or was it an insecticon clone or the real bombshell...or was ita clone that became the "other" cyclonus in the movie.lol.
Cardboard Bots also another reason i say he was skywarp is if you listen to the voices you can hear a hint of skywarps voice when cyclonus speaks despite the fact they were voiced by different actors...im not sure if that was the idea or if its just a coincidence but it's definatly there if you listen carefully.☺
It doesn't keep me up at night, but it just seems to be an error and and oversight. The main thrust of the scene is that Unicron uses old bots to create new ones. In the end it doesn't matter which is which because I think both characters end up returning in either the animation of the movie or show as animation errors.
@@CardboardBots Please reply please do a stop motion play.
I try to hold my comments till after, but I'm 2 minutes in and..... WHAT?! Smaller than a titan master and you just made him just up and climb out of the cockpit and casually walk his way down the nose?! Wow man. Mad props
It's funny you make a DBz reference. Cyclonus' head kinda remonds me of Semi Perfect Cell
Llllloooooovvvvved the bot size comparison. Very entertaining = D
I just about died laughing at the he man ending.
Wow man. What a review. That was a thoroughly entertaining 17 minutes = D
There were three things very early on in my “storyboarding” stage (less storyboarding and more sketching-ideas-before-I-forget-them-stage):
• A Dragon Ball Z power-up transformation.
• A He-Man transformation.
• And in the bot mode comparison, everyone loses a head.
The He-Man bit was going to be the first origin piece. It was going to have special effects, glowing lines, and sparks, but the masking would have driven me bat shit crazy. I need a green screen backdrop for stuff like that to make the masking instantaneous. The Super Saiyan-esque transformation was supposed to be the end gag. I was going to make people work for it. It would have been several minutes long… because that’s the crazy sh*t that DBZ was like.
Anyway I got the feeling that people were chopping at the bit for the next review so, I threw the DBZ transformation out early as something to tide folks over. And because I really wanted to post something… because I was getting excited for it too.
I can really see now what you mean know about Eligos sort of looking like Semi Perfect Cell. I should have used a picture of Cell when I was talking about that part, but he didn’t come to mind at the time. I didn’t watch much DBZ after the Frieza saga. I’m pretty sure I could have done a 5 minute segment just about Cyclonus’ head and mecha/samurai influences. I had so many comparisons in mind but I decided not to do all that, because I knew I would be running long.
Some of the easiest parts to animate were the little bots, Galvatron and Truncheon. Galvatron was easy because he was so light and the smallest amount of sticky tack kept him in place. He was even easier to animate than the larger titan masters. Truncheon was an absolute joy.
The whole thing was built around the bot comparisons which doesn’t happen till the end. Hopefully people make it that far. I can see that some people might get bored of me talking about the plane mode and screw heads and not make it to the good stuff.
In the “plans” each bot compared loses a head and their body collapses onto the previous bots that came before it… like a Monty Python sketch that was in really poor taste: “What’s all this then?” SWACK! Head rolls. Body drops. Rinse and repeat. At that early stage I decided against that because: (a) it would be a lot of work and (b) it was more than a little morbid. What’s wrong with me that I make the toys so violent? I had wanted to get DNA’s Susanoo in the near future, but I’m rethinking that - as it would mean only more bot-on-bot violence.
Here’s the damage:
Just over 4,000 stills taken
63 hours of work logged from pencil-to-publish
I won’t be doing that again anytime soon. For my next review I’m going to explore some shortcuts. While I like to animate as much as possible, I need to focus and learn that not everything needs to be animated.
Monty Python sketch about death:
ruclips.net/video/RYNnF3TjSEw/видео.html
Hey lazy eyebrow big fan
Thank you. In my mind skywarp became cyclonus. Thundercracker became scourge and the insecticons became the sweeps. It just makes sense.
That’s pretty much my thinking too... but I almost like the idea of a duplicate Cyclonus out there named... Armada.
@@CardboardBots problem is there were a few groups of animators, each in charge of different parts of the movie. Hence the wild range of animation quality. There were also parts of the story that were added and subtracted mid process. Tons of errors from snarl being in some scenes, swoop running across the screen during the seige on autobot city. Sunstreaker already being at autobot city but later arriving with prime. Point is there was supposed to be two cyclonus's. I think from an earlier script. So scenes were animated that made no sense but stayed in the movie. Remember prime asking megatron "that's a question you should ask yourself megatron " but appeared to be standing back up? When in the scene b4 he was upright. He was supposed to be attacked from behind by dirge. He catches him and slams him into the ground. Then continues the scene. Lots of storyboard scenes that were cut or never animated.
i love that he-man reference you added at the end, well done
I may have made the whole video just for that gag
Wow just wow. I have no words. Wish I could give this more than one like.
Jay, thank you. That is high praise. But there is a way to give the video more than one like. Share it with a friend who might enjoy it.
Cardboard Bots now if I only had friends !
Good one. Though I'm sure you could make friends by sending someone you know a link. Cardboard Bots, helping people make friends since 2017!
Skywarp is Cyclonus thank you for the video.
Your knocking these reviews out the park !
Some bots like Elligos deserve special treatment.
I loved the size comparisons when he cuts off blasters head and the rest of the skit after that :)
The whole review is just a set-up for the fun at the end with the bot comparisons.
that's extremely clever. I think my favorite part of the skit is High-Five, that part was just so hilarious
Yeah, that was my son doing the voice if Hi-Fi. It was a blast making that scene together.
At 10:15, “but he does have one of these...” 😂😂
Excellent review as always. Perfect running time length!
Thanks, I appreciate that comment about the time length. I really want to make shorter, more concise videos though.
Without a doubt, my favorite review ever. I subscribed
Thank-you, Karamoko Lopez. I am in the voice-over/sound fx stage of a new review. It should be ready sometime next week. Eligos makes a brief appearance in it also.
For the efforts that was put into this review I wonder why not more people watched this.
Thanks, tohneyteoh. Share the video and more people can join the fun.
Your videos are awesome! Thank you for the time you put into them sir! :)
Thanks for taking the time out to watch them. Be sure and vote in the poll for the next review. By voting, you help direct what I make.
I REALLY enjoyed this review. I’ve watched a ton of reviews and never been entertained. Good job!
I'm really proud of that Cyclonus review. I'm stoked that it rose above being just a regular review for you. I feel like every reviewer should find a hook that works for them.
This is awesome! Love the way you do reviews!
Emerald, thanks very much. I like doing them and looking at all things stop motion.
Great review cardboard box! And keep up the great work!
Thanks. I'll try my best!
This may be my favorite transformers review I've ever seen
thanks, I put a lot of effort into it
Such a wonderful entertaining video! Lots of little bits that makes me watch the entire video!
Thanks WindCharger, you make some good videos too. I knew I was making something quite long and I wasn't sure if people would stick around for the "good" parts. I'm glad you did and found it enjoyable.
Just a few minutes in, I can say that the animation is amazingly smooth.
This animation used a bunch of frames, especially around animating the fingers.
Okay that ending was hilarious!!!
Thanks, origally that video was going to be his origin and the Super Saiyan powered up was going to be the end gag.... A much, much longer end gag as some of those Dragon Ball Z power-ups are very long.
Now I want this but Faaaaans toys is coming.
I think the correct move at this stage of the game is to wait for Fanstoys. It looks really well executed. Though FT needs to recess that face a bit.
Very cool video sir! I thoroughly enjoy your representations of all the transformers that you review! You are correct, Scourge is a really cool bot. When I got mine, I wanted the three that came together, but they were all out. So instead, I just got 3 Andreas's instead. Did not get the extras, but oh well, it will work. Beautiful colors with the purple on Eligos. Thanks for the vids. Please continue on!!
Andras looks so curvey and great. It is like the movie come to life. Thanks for watching. I'll continue on, but they won't all be 17 minute monsters!
Very good review! As I know, all the xtransbot figures have complicated transformation and I don't know why.....
Maybe that's the price you pay for them looking sooooo good. Thanks Stefanos!
Yes they are good bat for my experience till know, they made them stupid complicated. I've worked with many 3d party figures as MMC,TFC, Make toys, Unique toys and they are very good and they give you the result without so complicate transformation. The X-Transbot and the Badqube, are the only figures with difficult transformations.
Who actually doubts that what you've shown DIRECTLY from the canon film in terms of Cyclonus' origins is true?
LOL
Superb review, as always. I appreciate the heck out of these. I know how much work this takes!
Thanks, Afotey Annum. I may have taken some liberties when cropping that clip... ;)
@@CardboardBots lmao
Best review yet!
Msol, thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Fantastic work here, not see your vids before [no idea how I been missing these] but you must work damn hard and have put a lot of time into these. Brilliant! Subbed.
New review, just added. Somewhat less ambitious than the Eligos review.
that galvatron alone makes me want it also you sound a lot more confident since the first episode, good job
Everyone starts somewhere and one thing that helps us get better at something is practice. Lots of practice. Also, my wife gave me a fancy microphone for Christmas. Good tools certainly help too. Still have a long way to go...
The thiccness may be a reference to the similarly shaped IDW Cyclonus' alt mode.
It might be.
Fine work, sir. Thank you for using cut man's theme
Cutman's theme might be a little too upbeat for this character, but just look at that head... and he has that sword.
Cardboard Bots always heard air man's theme in my head when I saw thundercracker
you had me howling with laughter at Cybernetic Space Herpes
I wondered if it was too much for the age demographic that my videos get.
I get kids here and grown men here. My kid saw this and asked straight away what herpes was. "A disease," I told him.
good answer lol
Crazy how different this looks with the new paint scheme that's about to release. Looking forward to getting it. Was gonna drop $200 on FT, but I prefer my Cyclonus chunky. If this sculpt's paintjob looks as good IRL as the photo's, this is my pick.
XTB have vastly improved their paint jobs by the look of things. They've learned a lot since their first Transistor.
Hope he works out for you.
Having a blast watching your videos! Brilliant!
You're brilliant!
No, you are
Great stuff Man! We're gonna have to get together and talk about ideas!
I'm callin' dibs on 3 Stooges. You can have Abbott and Costello.
Also... How is your subscriber count so high, but your video play counts much lower? Like wookies on Endor, it does not make sense.
These reviews in Stopmotion are awesome !! I'm trying to do this as well and this is awesome as well so well done you have earned a new subscriber
This is amazing work! Making this video, I give you all my respect! Very well made! Keep it up! Ofc I sub!
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Thanks, Rob. I was really worried that people would find this video boring because it's so long. Glad to have you aboard.
17 minutes of you, dream come true!
Thanks... 17 minutes is torture to make, but I did a lot of talking and making some points during this video. Ideally, I want to make condensed videos that are only 5 or 6 minutes long.
And Missfire, the greatest pink-con that ever was. ^_^
So, looks like Eligos is a "toy not meant for play" deal, eh? Too bad. At least there's the 2008 universe toy for a 'swing it around and make laser sound effects' experience. XD CW Cyclonus is pretty good too.
Cyclonus: the subjective bot of settle-down-he's-cool-either-way.
Papersamurai00, he's good for playing, as I personally put him through his paces. He falls down in the execution of his transformation. The transformation is very smart, but the tolerances of connecting pieces is off in going to jet mode. I think he's a little musclebound when it comes to posing. Many of the bigger bots seem to have this problem. They look cool AF but are not as agile as some of the slimmer bots.
Like you said he's cool either way.... But going in between is no fun at all. The new Misfire is probably 20 times more fun to transform.
The Titans Return Misfire is fun, plain and simple. Worth it.
I Love this StopMotion it’s so good made
Thanks!
Awesome review CBB, my only issue with this figure is the same as yours...he's a bit thick.
As Jobby would say... He's a "Big Boy."
BEST REVIEW EVER ON NIGHTSTICK !!! so much better than FT !!
He was unbelievably fun to animate. I think people will be very happy with Fanstoys Quietus. It looks really good also.
AWESOME!!! I see why this took long now, it’s awesome!
Glad you like it.
Cardboard Bots always liked your videos！
Just added up the time. It took 63 hours to make.
Cardboard Bots holy **** that’s a long time!!! 😳 🤔
Way too long!! The next one will be more sensible.
That was a nice review! I just love how everything folds up for a nice looking robot mode, sucks that cockpit has issues though.
Shockwave, thanks.
Cardboard Bots No problem!
Aaahhh, so I see you're on the Skywarp side of the debate, hmmm
I showed my non-TF buddy the cropped clip from the 86 movie that I used showing only Skywarp turning into a Cyclonus-type. He said, "It's obvious that Skywarp turns into Cyclonus. Why would anyone think that he turns into Bombshell?"
I didn't bother to show him the uncropped clip at the time.
I like the idea of another Cyclonus or an "Armada" out there as well. Sort of there be two Will Rikers in Star Trek NG.
To me it's obvious that Bombshell is the one turning into Cyclonus. It's also obvious that the movie and episodes are full of animation errors, and mis-colourings, and incorrect use of character design reference material.
The case for Skywarp/Cyclonus is more logical to me but that's more "head cannon" than anything else. I don't lose sleep over who turned into what.
Rumble being red, that's another story though!!!
Chunk soup: fork or spoon?
There are much more important trivial debates! :)
@@CardboardBots spoon. Anyone that says otherwise is a moron
@@notgray88 yea but scale it up and which one is cooler, a shovel or a trident, fork wins every time
@@sheryllamb Ever seen a combat shovel? Those things are badass.
Excuse me sir, but I was around in 86 and I'm not carrying extra cargo!
Also, I shaved that tab beside the cockpit down as I knew it would never fit.
I tried to shave it down before pressing it in, but I guess it was not enough.
Okay, I guess I'm carrying cargo for the both of us then.
@@CardboardBots Actually, I enlarged the hole. I also trimmed the tab where his back flap behind the cockpit goes under his legs so I can get him out of jet mode easier. I've transformed him loads of times with no problems.
i think the sword was from idw cyclonus
I think you are right
I wish every version of cyclonus was purple, and dont think we missed the mega man music!
In some angles he looks blue, btw enjoyed the Hamlet reference!
no problem... except I didn’t knowing make a Hamlet reference. what part do you think alluded to Hamlet? Was it the little cassette guy vowing revenge?
I love me some Mega Man. someone should make a purple version of Cyclonus and call him Armada.
@@CardboardBots At 1536 hes holding Ultra Magnus' head in his hand upright! " Alas poor Yorick I knew him..."
I see it now!
I really like the dragon ball Z reference you just did
👌👌👌 nice man! Always count on you to make some rocking content!!
Slow but steady...
good review. Lmao at that ending.
Thanks, trence5. I think at this point I would recommend that people get the Fantoys version now that they released some photos of the toy.
Dodge you choose the music just for a joke at 9:11 because if so well done
Very deliberate
The Skywarp to Cyclonus transformation done up in the style ans to the tune of Prince Adam of Eternia becoming He-Man was brilliant! Too bad you could not have added in the thunder and lightning visuals.
I could have and I wanted to, but without doing it on a green screen, it would have been too time consuming. I could still do it in my leisure, but it would be a ton of work doing the masking.
Kingdom cyclonus has better shade of purple or is it violet?
Your lighting makes him look a liiiiiiiiiiittle bit too purple. Nice review anyways, I actually really enjoy your reviewing style.
You’re right about the lighting. Maybe I should change up my lighting in the future. I’m glad that you are liking the stop motion reviews.
Sweet he won! as much as i love how this looks i dont really think i'd get him mainly because i dont collect MP's but he looks beautiful and if i did collect MP's you have me sold. despite the flaws it seems like a nice display piece. Keep up the great work dude. looking forward to what's next.
Thanks TFA1024, Eligos doesn't lend himself to crazy dynamic posing but he's more than fine with his articulation. He is very imposing and menacing and is a top notch display piece. He projects toughness!
Just like Cyclonus should do. He looks great. You know im sure you get asked this a lot but how long do your videos take to make?
Well this one took an absurdly long time. Luckily I logged all my hours working on it this time, because I wanted to know myself. While I don't have my log book in front of me at the moment, I'm sure it was in excess of 40 hours. That includes the planning, just over 4,000 photos that I shot, research, editing photos of old toys, video editing, sound editing... everything. I go down a lot of rabit holes when I do research. For instance I spent an evening researching Super Saiyan transformations. An evening researching HE-Man. I have to watch videos to understand how to transform the toy. Then I have to practice that off camera. It's a lot of "research."
For the record, I don't want to spend that much time on a project again. I want to streamline my process. I have to learn to work smarter, not longer.
Most of the time I work in spurts of 1 or 2 hours in the evening. On the weekends I can usually double or triple that.
This time, I wasted a lot of time on animating vehicles and robots coming and going for comparisons. I can really do that with one simple shot that pops in and out. BLOOP: this is Galvatron. BLOOP: Here he is next to Combiner Wars Cyclonus: BLOOP: Here he is next to Starscream. It could be that simple, but I went overboard.
I think there is merit to me animating some core stuff and then finding short cuts like when Spike is picking up and throwing down mini Galvatron. I think that stuff is funny. It communicates what I want, but at the same time it's easy to do.
When I add my hours together, I'll post it here.
TFA1024, I just looked at my logs and from start to finish, February 8 to March 11, the total time worked added up to 63 hours! That averages out to about 2 hours and 2 minutes per day for 31 day!
I think I'm going to go somewhere and cry now...
Each second of the video equals 3 minutes and 42 seconds of work.
Fun review! :D
Thanks MM, gots to be funn!
For some reason I thought this was the kingdom cyclonus
That's because the kingdom one looks so good.
Always regarded Cyclonus from the 80s cartoon as a rational idiot. Rational because he was saner than his leader. Of course that's not too huge a statement, given that EVERYBODY'S more sane than Galvatron. And idiot because, well, he'd have to be to think that an abusive, triggerhappy lunatic was the best choice for Con King.
A samurai is loyal to his master, even if his master is flawed. The alternative would be ritual suicide. He has a warrior's honour... even if we disagree in it. Blind loyalty is not a trait that I'm fond of.
Watching this in 2021, and looking at the part when Cyclonus is holding Ultra Mag's head all Shakespeare-like gave me an Earthrise vibe. Too soon, too soon
Kingdom Cyclonus just showed up in my mail today... I'm so excited
4:12 what did he say? It sounded like French.
It was French, you’re right. I said “la même chose pour l'autre jambe”, which means: “the same thing for the other leg”.
Omg the back of his head is horrifying /amazing
You mean because of all the screws on the back of head and it sort of looks like a face anyway...?
15:00 my favorite part.
Thanks man. It was fun to make that bit.
Looks like skywarp is trying to go super saiyan
You got it! That's exactly right! I wonder what level he achieved?
Great review video. After Hatch and Boost I was done with XTB. The quality just doesn't work for me. KFC tends to fair a little better, but there are more duds than successes. Huff vs. krank is where .my XTB distain comes from.
I've got several KFC bots and I like them, but this is my first X-Transbot. This does seem like a steep in quality than some of the KFC stuff, but the KFC stuff seems more sturdy as toys. I like the look of XTB's Trailbreaker.
I do like how you do your reviews can you make a tutorial video on how you make them because you sir have a talent
Thanks for the praise, but I don't think I want to do a tutorial as I'd rather spend my limited time actually making a review. I'm still learning stuff about this all the time. Graf-X motion has doing some cool making of/tutorial videos.
Love your animations!
Thanks. Right back at you.
I like this keep them rolling...😉
I shall try to do so. I’m glad that you liked this Cyclonus video
Hey Cardboard Bots ( Cardboard Bots, durr), did you get the ending song when Skywarp/ Cyclonus shouts "I have the power!!!" from He-Man?
Yeah, that's from He-man
Great humour!
Thanks, TransformInto AGuitar. You have a great name by the way.
I love your reviews. The background music always reminds me of old Nintendo games.
One question, can you fit a Titanmaster in his cockpit?
Thanks, Mark. I think there is room enough, but it would sit right inside. It would probably flop around on lay in an awkward position.
Cardboard Bots I'd have no problem with it flopping about inside. I just want to know it'll fit.
I'm one of the rare collectors who base their collection on vehicle scale so I try and scale everything vehicle wise with the Diaclones.
While I've never seen a real diaclone pilot in person, those were pretty small and I say those would fit. I tried putting the little Galvatron in MP Starscream as a pilot and he was too big. I think I've seen a picture were a diaclone pilot fits in MP Starscream. ... Or maybe I'm confusing that with the new diaclone pilots!
I was going to say I would try out a titan master inside him when I get home, but I forgot that he's no longer in plane mode.
Haha your videos are great!
thanks pat
14:42 Galvatron: Ok Cyclonus on this target master show us where the pervertiacon touched you
Yeeeeaaaah, parts of that felt a little pervy while I was making it too. I might have gone into it too... his name was Nightstick... but lots of young folks watch these videos.
Yeah...
Where can u buy this figure
You could try ebay or a local TF facebook group.
Yes
indeed!
If I might make a request, can you change up your lighting or camera settings a little? A lot of the detail just gets washed out due to the harsh yellow lighting.
Jomaster, you are absolutely right. I have my eyes on a lighting kit with soft boxes to help get more even light and diffuse any strong directional light. Just got to save up enough. More than anything, I need to make space to set the lights further back from the subjects. I'm taking your feedback to heart.
Thanks. I really enjoy your reviews, it's just that the lighting's a bit harsh. I hope to see more from you in the future!
it takes me 50 minutes to watch this because I keep rewinding to look at the animation
I'm the same way when I watch other people's animation. I say, "How did they do that? How did it stay balanced, how did that projectile move across the screen? Or man that's a nice camera angle or movement!" New short REVEAL video coming out in about 2 or 3 hours.
Dude I know you've probably heard this before but you do not get enough credit for what you do at ALL. This must have taken you hours upon hours of shooting, editing, blah blah blah.... and you have tons of these videos and only 943 subs? Well, as long as you like what you're doing (which you almost definitely do considering how high quality your reviews are). Sorry for the rant, just really appreciate what you do. Anybody who's reading this, go ahead and give this guy a sub, he deserves it. Good luck!
Verrry Nice, that was very nice of you to say. I think, I'll break 1,000 subscribers with this video. One thing, I haven't done has been to hound people for subs. I hope people share the videos with their friends and if they want to rock a particular vote for a certain choice it would be as easy as asking friends to vote in a campaign. Building subs organically is okay. I'm glad people are enjoying this hobby with me.
I get it because both cutman and and cyclonus have horns that look like bunny ears
I wouldn't want to put my hand between those head blades.
Great vid and you have made me want to pick this up but 12:45 transformers aren’t robots
Thanks BaG. Bewary about transforming him if you get him. Also, if TF characters are not robots beholden to some very limited programming, then I don't know what they are. If they are a cybernetic alien species they still heavily depend on mimicking other life formers and cultures... Almost as if they need to copy because thy cannot live on their own.
I'm disappointed no one ever makes comparisons with the marvel comics, but oh well
I don't, because I never read them. It's just not something that I considered before.
Cardboard Bots i know very few people care at all about the marvel comics anymore (me myself only having enjoyed them via the subs on tfwiki) at least when it comes with representation in toy form, so trying to krater(sic) to there needs is pointless (with the expedition of the toy world cosmos using gold). It's not like it really matters anyways though, since marvel used almost the same character models (with a few expections) aside from color wise (and I think I am the only person in the world who likes the sometimes random usage of color the characters sported). I really don't care too much but more comparisons are always better imo. (You could also include studio Oxs designs too, since many unofficial mps are using thoses designs, but it its just a suggestion)
2 more till 1K
10:13 - Is... is that it?
Everyone has something.
Yeah but I just expected it to be a bit... you know... bigger?
Wow
Thanks
Huff next please!
Make sure to vote in the poll at the top of the video.
this rocks
No, you rock, Joel!
I hear cutman theme
You get 10 points
Cardboard Bots yay
Cyclonus has a small member lol
Yes... Nightstick is pretty small. But remember he can unfold to reach about as far as the knee. Which could be considered big compared to others.
I always thought cyclonus was a more loyal, stronger and better starscream
Absolutely. He's the opposite of Starscream
OVER 9000
I'll use that line in a future video, I'm sure!
I also believe Cyclonus was Skywarp ♥
Good on ya!
I think it was bombshell that turned into cyclonus
You may be right. There certainly is strong evidence to support Bombshell. But if I'm to be honest, I don't have any Bombshell toys. Ssssh, don't tell anyone.
Throw the card boxes out and do a proper background. And then your videos will be the best reviews on yt. Every other aspect is just perfect. Got yourself a fan. 👏👏👏💟
Thank you very much. The cardboard is sort of my thing, but I’ll take it under consideration. I think with the right amount of space and better, more even lighting it would look a whole lot better.
Do huffer please
Vote in the link to the poll at the top of the video screen. It's a circle with an "i" inside. If you really want Huffer to win you may have to recruit some friends to rock the vote.
It’s funny how hasbro were the ones to perfect cyclonis
Yep, I'm so surprised by it. I've been impressed by the advanced made by hadbro's mainline recently.
@@CardboardBots most of the mainline figures are accurate representations of the g1 character and you can trust are consistently good quality. When they mess up tho , they mess up BAD like with rhinos or tracks
it reminds me of an R-71 blackbird.
Because of the long front probably.
Um dude what’s that between your legs
That’s what she said.
Hi
I love your videos ;u;
(No se si lo escribi bien,no domino mucho el ingles)
Merci. Gracias. Domo. Thank-you. :)
Too bad I missed out on this.
Isn't he still available? You should be able to find some used as some people switch out to the Fantoys version.
I just realized you can pick the micro Galvatron and make the new cell 1 Unicron eat him
great idea... if only I had Unicron
@@CardboardBots I wish I had Unicron too... Bad times here :(
It’s so weird rewatching this having Kingdom Cyclonus. I used to think this thing was awesome! Now it just looks overpriced, oversized, and practically outdone by a voyager :\
You are not wrong. Kingdom Cyclonus us much more functional and affordable. My mind is blown by it. The transformation on Eligos is painful. Especially because you have a old chipping paint on the nosecone. Kingdom Cyclonus is like bot-of-the-year level good.
@@CardboardBots that’s basically most chug for ya. Emphasis on *most.*
Lol this was funny
Thanks Sheng Long. I try to add a bit a humour to balance out the bot-on-bot violence.