my voice is literally a wound. everytime I open my mouth it makes me anxious. when people say everyone hates their voice they just.dont.get.this. thanks for your help!
Thank you 😭 I really can’t help that I have gay voice and I hate constantly being criticized for it so if I need to use these straight voice tips I’ll keep them at hand.
I fucking HATE when people make fun of my for this. Theyre like “you sound gay” like I FUCKING HATE that I get made fun of for something i cant control. Ive never wanted to speak like this, and I am straight.
In my opinion, I don't think there's a way to "sound gay" and I hate people who judge people for things they can't control because it's not like we asked to speak a certain way.
I appreciate your effort here to give advice for times that blending in/straightening up/being less noticeable will help you better demonstrate your abilities for something you want. Setting aside the "this shouldn't be" argument and aiming for the goal and what that goal requires of you is the best advice here. Hopefully there will be a day such a notion will not have to be considered.
Say, I’m not even gay. I’m just watching this video because apparently a lot of people assume I’m gay based on my voice alone, and I don’t want people to have the wrong impression on me. What I’m understanding is that I need to mispronounce words and speak with poor articulation if I don’t want people to confuse my sexual orientation.
I hate how people just assume you're gay based off your voice, like, your voice doesn't magically change if you become gay, i also hate people who act like being gay is a crime
Sad, but 100% truth... "gay voice" is definitely looked down upon by the majority of people still, especially in the work environment... I've seen it first hand.
I was bullied a lot for it in high school. People would either give me weirded out looks and ask me “Why do you speak like that? Its annoying” or they’d see it as a joke. Some guys would actually tell me to say something, and then they’d repeat what I’d say with the most exaggerated girly accent to mock me.
This is all really great advice! It can be really discouraging when people don’t take us seriously because of the natural tone of our voice, and it sucks that we even have to do this in the first place, but your breakdown is very useful to know and can be a big confidence boost when the time comes to apply it. I sometimes can get a valley girl accent when I’m not paying attention (I have ADD so it happens a lot), especially to my pitch and tone, so this video give me a good idea of what to keep in mind.
A really good tip for gay men looking to have a more "straight" voice: Most gay men have a naturally deep pitch to their voice due to testosterone, but their resonance is higher than average men due to unconsciously mimicking female voice habits, giving many gay men that distinct buzzy/vocal fry tone to their voice. To change this you need to practice lowering your resonance by lowering your larynx and increasing the "fullness" of your voice. I highly advise watching FTM voice deepening videos to see this exact technique in action it makes a huge difference.
This is just the saddest saddest thing. Do you see the hell that we go through? Altering ourselves just to receive love. Something straight people take for granted
People who have terrible illnesses and disabilities or who live in countries where they are starving would probably tell us we take for granted that we have fresh running water. That's life and we all have our own problems or issues and go through suffering, regardless how much someone else maybe suffering more. Gay men are different from straight men and I think it's good to embrace those differences rather that try to conform to be exactly like them. I'm talking more in general terms as a great deal of diversity is present in homosexual men and women as there is among heterosexual people. I think a lot of gay men can suffer growing up because they believe to be a male they have to be masculine and male-typical like most other boys, when on average, by their nature gay men are more feminine and female-typical than heterosexual males. By saying they are more female-typical I am not implying they are not male, it just means on average they share more in common in traits with females than do non-homosexual boys. I know some gay men want to believe that the only difference between them and straight men is their sexual partner preferences, but study after study shows that to some extent, homosexuality is part of a package of mental traits, many of which can be considered gender-variant or gender non conformist, whereas heterosexuality is part of a package of gender-typical or gender conformist. Large scale studies have documented very sizeble and statistically significant shifts in gender-typed behaviours of pre-gay children, both boys and girls, compared with pre-straight children of the same sex. No one is 100% male typical or 100% female typical, but homosexual people are generally more atypical than heterosexual people. Gay men are shifted in a female direction compared with straight men, and lesbians are shifted in a male direction compared with straight women. These are only shifts and not complete gender reversals, and they don't affect every gender trait. Gay men have at least some gender atypical traits(some more than others) but few have the entire package. The association between sexual orientation and other gendered traits arises because all these traits differentiate under the influence of a common biological process-the sexual differentiation of the brain under the influence of sex hormones. Males are typically exposed to higher levels of testosterone in the utero than females. The evidence suggest that if testosterone levels during a critical prenatal period are high , the brain is organized in such a way that the person is predisposed to become typically masculine in a variety of gendered traits, including sexual attraction to females. If testosterone levels are low during that same time period, the brain is organized in such a way that the person is predisposed to become typically feminine in gendered traits, including sexual attraction to males. Bisexuality might result from intermediate levels of testosterone, although there is little direct evidence bearing on this because there has been no research done. It could also be the case that their brains responded to these hormones in different ways. Neuroscientific studies have shown that the brains of lesbians are partially masculinized and gay mens partially feminized. Patterns of brain organisation appear similar between gay men and heterosexual women and between lesbian women and heterosexual men. Gay men appear, on average, more “female typical” in brain pattern responses and lesbian women are more “male typical”. Differences in brain organisation mean differences in psychology and study after study show differences in cognition between heterosexual and gay people. Gay mens brains are also structured like those of heterosexual females and lesbians structured similar to heterosexual mens. Gay differences are are reflected in our psychology and the ways we relate to others. The more we can instill in gay males or gender atypical or gender-non-conforming children that it's okay to be different, the more we can prevent them feeling bad for not being the same as most other boys. I think it just gives them more armour against other boys who will try to make fun of them for being more feminine, and if another child realises they cannot get at another child by making fun of them about something they are likely to stop and move on...children are pretty simple like that because they don't have the maturity or fully developed empathy and so they mainly go by other childrens reactions. Of course it's still going to hurt being made fun of, but it won't affect them the same way if they accept themselves as being different. It can also stop the resentfulness some gay boys might have towards other boys for being more masculine. I don't think boys should be shamed for being more masculine anymore than they should be shamed for being more feminine. It could also help stop some of the fem-phobia that we see even in the gay community and masculinity posturing. Internalised homophobia can be more destructive sometimes than homophobia from others. Sometimes the issues can come from within gay people more than the people around them. Some of the gay men who have been trying to appear more masculine in order to fit into society as masculine men are going to project their insecurities on to more feminine gay men because they mirror back to the some of the qualitues they hate in themselves and try to suppress and deny.. It can also help parents to understand this stuff is biological and not a choice and children cannot be forced to be more gender-conforming if they are not. social influences cannot override the underlying preferences themselves.
I’m really glad this was recommended to me, your guide is really helpful. The advice also works well for learning to do a traditional male voice, so you’re doing a good service to the queer community all around
this is very helpful for trans men like me :) i have a deep voice even just 2 months on T but I sound « gay » and being able to sound like how most straight men do especially in texas is very helpful in passing
Bro thank you for the tips, I’m not gay but I have a really zesty and high pitched voice and I was always was made fun of because of it and people always assumed I was gay. Really appreciate it✊👍
This is some very helpful advice and is right on the money! I am a hiring manager in corporate America and even though the culture here is becoming increasingly more acceptable where gender and sexuality issues are concerned, it's always a good idea to curb our gayness at least until a little time has passed and your peers are more comfortable around you. This can easily be accomplished by putting the focus on your work and not so much on who you are. A big thank you for bringing this issue to light!
Just want to tell you all sensitive spirits here: think this as a professional skill, you can gain this as an ability, some people naturally own it and some of us don’t. But you should never ever be shamed by not possessing a skill, love yourself before you love anybody else❤.
I only looked this up cause I like singing but don't like my gay voice when singing. I really like those guys with a hopeless romantic voice when singing 😭
😐I have a pretty gay voice, usually when I get excited. It's just more comfortable for to make my pitch go up to sound excited. But I'm not gay, though.😐
I just started T right now and basically trans voice is almost the same as gay voice, so this is very helpful. I don’t think it’s right, and love the way trans men sound naturally after T without doing any practice to talk the way men talk, but due to my extremely feminine proportions I think I will need all the help I can get until I can finally get top surgery.
Thanks, these are helpful tips. It's not even necessarily the employer either. When you're client facing, they are going to decide if you are the right fit for them based on all sorts of preconceptions. I can't build a career if I don't get enough clients, and I don't want the disadvantage of having a smaller pool of potential clients because some will think a gay voice off-putting or lacks authority. Plus, you know, I want women to actually realise I'm flirting with them for real, not the fake gay best friend flirt :P
Hey bro hope you get a job soon and better one , don't lose your indentiy becuse some bozo who stuck their whole life for a slave wage struck your spirit down. You rock sister
i think a lot of people say i have a gay voice even though i don’t hear it and it creates a lot of cognitive dissonance in my brain.. i honestly don’t know what to do
Throughout my 4 years of highschool ive been asked ''are you gay'' or when i would talk/call with people ive never met before they' d also ask the same thing.. this happens especially when im nervous so during presentations or talking to people i have never met before. Language ALSO plays a role because speaking English makes it way worse
i think its just the voice ending not really about the pitch because my voice is quite deep but i say accen with silent t and maybe that comes off as gay (cope)
Thanks, I like these tips. I will subscribe and review it again. Perhaps you can make training speaking videos for us to practice along. I am not ashamed of being gay but I don’t want my voice to dictate what peoples impression of me is. I want to have control of that narrative. Thanks for this tips.
I would say be yourself and screw what other people think except that I really don't like effeminate male voices. And I have one. I don't aspire to conform. I just want to wear being a male the way you wear certain coat instead of that ugly sweater. It might be hopeless cause and I'm old and my personality is fairly established at this point. I don't know...
im late to the game here but question for just lowering the tone and not going up and down with it. now i just sound like a bitchy monotone gay man. lmao help
It bothers me that this is even a thing you (and maybe other people) encounter. You’re pinning it on manner of speech but is it really just good old fashioned racism? In an interview I somehow doubt you said hey with an upward tone 🤣. In your videos you do speak very thoughtfully and precisely (thus slowly), is this also how you deliver in an interview?
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my voice is literally a wound. everytime I open my mouth it makes me anxious. when people say everyone hates their voice they just.dont.get.this. thanks for your help!
:C
I hate that I have to look this up just because someone made me feel bad about myself
Yeah same…
same
Same twin I’m so insecure with my voice
Same😢
Same 😢
Thank you 😭 I really can’t help that I have gay voice and I hate constantly being criticized for it so if I need to use these straight voice tips I’ll keep them at hand.
Ok but do you have any tips to make my voice sound more gay? I have the opposite problem where I pass too well and I don't like that 😭
@@kartoffelstein3627just imagine being a valley girl
@@kartoffelstein3627just watch drag race and talk like them
Same bro
Same lost friends cuz of it 🤦🏾♂️
I'm not gay but people keep assuming I am because my voice is rather feminine at times, I really hope this video helps me
Yo same
same
Me to I hate it when people call me gay, zesty or trans when I’m not.
Soooo has it changed??
SAME BRO
If anyone wants to go straight to the tips, it’s at 2:24
I fucking HATE when people make fun of my for this. Theyre like “you sound gay” like I FUCKING HATE that I get made fun of for something i cant control. Ive never wanted to speak like this, and I am straight.
In my opinion, I don't think there's a way to "sound gay" and I hate people who judge people for things they can't control because it's not like we asked to speak a certain way.
I appreciate your effort here to give advice for times that blending in/straightening up/being less noticeable will help you better demonstrate your abilities for something you want. Setting aside the "this shouldn't be" argument and aiming for the goal and what that goal requires of you is the best advice here. Hopefully there will be a day such a notion will not have to be considered.
Say, I’m not even gay. I’m just watching this video because apparently a lot of people assume I’m gay based on my voice alone, and I don’t want people to have the wrong impression on me. What I’m understanding is that I need to mispronounce words and speak with poor articulation if I don’t want people to confuse my sexual orientation.
Same bro 😭
I hate how people just assume you're gay based off your voice, like, your voice doesn't magically change if you become gay, i also hate people who act like being gay is a crime
Sad, but 100% truth... "gay voice" is definitely looked down upon by the majority of people still, especially in the work environment... I've seen it first hand.
I was bullied a lot for it in high school. People would either give me weirded out looks and ask me “Why do you speak like that? Its annoying” or they’d see it as a joke. Some guys would actually tell me to say something, and then they’d repeat what I’d say with the most exaggerated girly accent to mock me.
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@@Fe304BREAKzesty? what does that mean?
Even in the gay community
This is all really great advice! It can be really discouraging when people don’t take us seriously because of the natural tone of our voice, and it sucks that we even have to do this in the first place, but your breakdown is very useful to know and can be a big confidence boost when the time comes to apply it. I sometimes can get a valley girl accent when I’m not paying attention (I have ADD so it happens a lot), especially to my pitch and tone, so this video give me a good idea of what to keep in mind.
A really good tip for gay men looking to have a more "straight" voice:
Most gay men have a naturally deep pitch to their voice due to testosterone, but their resonance is higher than average men due to unconsciously mimicking female voice habits, giving many gay men that distinct buzzy/vocal fry tone to their voice. To change this you need to practice lowering your resonance by lowering your larynx and increasing the "fullness" of your voice.
I highly advise watching FTM voice deepening videos to see this exact technique in action it makes a huge difference.
Thank you
Due to testosterone?? Wdym?? They have gay voice cause they have low t?
This is just the saddest saddest thing. Do you see the hell that we go through? Altering ourselves just to receive love. Something straight people take for granted
People who have terrible illnesses and disabilities or who live in countries where they are starving would probably tell us we take for granted that we have fresh running water. That's life and we all have our own problems or issues and go through suffering, regardless how much someone else maybe suffering more.
Gay men are different from straight men and I think it's good to embrace those differences rather that try to conform to be exactly like them. I'm talking more in general terms as a great deal of diversity is present in homosexual men and women as there is among heterosexual people. I think a lot of gay men can suffer growing up because they believe to be a male they have to be masculine and male-typical like most other boys, when on average, by their nature gay men are more feminine and female-typical than heterosexual males. By saying they are more female-typical I am not implying they are not male, it just means on average they share more in common in traits with females than do non-homosexual boys. I know some gay men want to believe that the only difference between them and straight men is their sexual partner preferences, but study after study shows that to some extent, homosexuality is part of a package of mental traits, many of which can be considered gender-variant or gender non conformist, whereas heterosexuality is part of a package of gender-typical or gender conformist. Large scale studies have documented very sizeble and statistically significant shifts in gender-typed behaviours of pre-gay children, both boys and girls, compared with pre-straight children of the same sex.
No one is 100% male typical or 100% female typical, but homosexual people are generally more atypical than heterosexual people. Gay men are shifted in a female direction compared with straight men, and lesbians are shifted in a male direction compared with straight women. These are only shifts and not complete gender reversals, and they don't affect every gender trait. Gay men have at least some gender atypical traits(some more than others) but few have the entire package. The association between sexual orientation and other gendered traits arises because all these traits differentiate under the influence of a common biological process-the sexual differentiation of the brain under the influence of sex hormones. Males are typically exposed to higher levels of testosterone in the utero than females. The evidence suggest that if testosterone levels during a critical prenatal period are high , the brain is organized in such a way that the person is predisposed to become typically masculine in a variety of gendered traits, including sexual attraction to females. If testosterone levels are low during that same time period, the brain is organized in such a way that the person is predisposed to become typically feminine in gendered traits, including sexual attraction to males. Bisexuality might result from intermediate levels of testosterone, although there is little direct evidence bearing on this because there has been no research done. It could also be the case that their brains responded to these hormones in different ways.
Neuroscientific studies have shown that the brains of lesbians are partially masculinized and gay mens partially feminized. Patterns of brain organisation appear similar between gay men and heterosexual women and between lesbian women and heterosexual men. Gay men appear, on average, more “female typical” in brain pattern responses and lesbian women are more “male typical”. Differences in brain organisation mean differences in psychology and study after study show differences in cognition between heterosexual and gay people. Gay mens brains are also structured like those of heterosexual females and lesbians structured similar to heterosexual mens. Gay differences are are reflected in our psychology and the ways we relate to others.
The more we can instill in gay males or gender atypical or gender-non-conforming children that it's okay to be different, the more we can prevent them feeling bad for not being the same as most other boys. I think it just gives them more armour against other boys who will try to make fun of them for being more feminine, and if another child realises they cannot get at another child by making fun of them about something they are likely to stop and move on...children are pretty simple like that because they don't have the maturity or fully developed empathy and so they mainly go by other childrens reactions. Of course it's still going to hurt being made fun of, but it won't affect them the same way if they accept themselves as being different. It can also stop the resentfulness some gay boys might have towards other boys for being more masculine. I don't think boys should be shamed for being more masculine anymore than they should be shamed for being more feminine. It could also help stop some of the fem-phobia that we see even in the gay community and masculinity posturing. Internalised homophobia can be more destructive sometimes than homophobia from others. Sometimes the issues can come from within gay people more than the people around them. Some of the gay men who have been trying to appear more masculine in order to fit into society as masculine men are going to project their insecurities on to more feminine gay men because they mirror back to the some of the qualitues they hate in themselves and try to suppress and deny.. It can also help parents to understand this stuff is biological and not a choice and children cannot be forced to be more gender-conforming if they are not. social influences cannot override the underlying preferences themselves.
I’m really glad this was recommended to me, your guide is really helpful. The advice also works well for learning to do a traditional male voice, so you’re doing a good service to the queer community all around
this is very helpful for trans men like me :) i have a deep voice even just 2 months on T but I sound « gay » and being able to sound like how most straight men do especially in texas is very helpful in passing
Trans in Texas, that's tough. I hope things have gone well for you ❤
I hate that due to so much discrimination and hatred I have faced, I have to start learning how to conceal myself... Ugh
Everybody in my school, and i mean everybody, calls me gay even though im not. I cant beleive im looking this up bc if my filipino accent.....
Bro thank you for the tips, I’m not gay but I have a really zesty and high pitched voice and I was always was made fun of because of it and people always assumed I was gay. Really appreciate it✊👍
I’m literally not even gay and I have a gay voice so I’m trying to change to sound straight😭
Your natural voice is relaxing. It’s so sad that people have to conform to society standards.
This is some very helpful advice and is right on the money! I am a hiring manager in corporate America and even though the culture here is becoming increasingly more acceptable where gender and sexuality issues are concerned, it's always a good idea to curb our gayness at least until a little time has passed and your peers are more comfortable around you. This can easily be accomplished by putting the focus on your work and not so much on who you are. A big thank you for bringing this issue to light!
YASSSSS💅💅 you slayed with this video gworl👁👄👁my voice is literally so masculine rn, nobody can even tell i'm gay😋❤❤
💀 dead
in tew thousand and twenty four?
Just want to tell you all sensitive spirits here: think this as a professional skill, you can gain this as an ability, some people naturally own it and some of us don’t. But you should never ever be shamed by not possessing a skill, love yourself before you love anybody else❤.
I only looked this up cause I like singing but don't like my gay voice when singing. I really like those guys with a hopeless romantic voice when singing 😭
Watching this because I got casted as a straight homophobic character as a very gay man lmao
happens alot :)
Same 😂
im not gay it’s just that when I grew up I got influenced by beach cali gyalss accent 😂
😐I have a pretty gay voice, usually when I get excited. It's just more comfortable for to make my pitch go up to sound excited. But I'm not gay, though.😐
Thanks this helps a lot. I understand its hard to be set apart because of your voice. I appreciate this video a lot. Youve helped a lot
honestly i just hate my voice. not because people make fun of it but just because "gay voice" is annoying to me
I just started T right now and basically trans voice is almost the same as gay voice, so this is very helpful. I don’t think it’s right, and love the way trans men sound naturally after T without doing any practice to talk the way men talk, but due to my extremely feminine proportions I think I will need all the help I can get until I can finally get top surgery.
Im here for the same reason 😭🫡
Thanks, these are helpful tips. It's not even necessarily the employer either. When you're client facing, they are going to decide if you are the right fit for them based on all sorts of preconceptions. I can't build a career if I don't get enough clients, and I don't want the disadvantage of having a smaller pool of potential clients because some will think a gay voice off-putting or lacks authority.
Plus, you know, I want women to actually realise I'm flirting with them for real, not the fake gay best friend flirt :P
thank you for tips because people tell me I sound gay even though i am straight I just cant help that i sound a certain way
Hey bro hope you get a job soon and better one , don't lose your indentiy becuse some bozo who stuck their whole life for a slave wage struck your spirit down. You rock sister
Thank you for the tips and wish me luck ok being able to sound more masculine
ive been called the f slur so many times even though im not so this helped ;;
This is very well thought-out.
It’s sad how this is such a common thing that theres an actual video on how to change it😔
My town is aggressively homophobic so this is very helpful
So like my voice is like.. naturally sound gay but im not sooo here i am
i think a lot of people say i have a gay voice even though i don’t hear it and it creates a lot of cognitive dissonance in my brain.. i honestly don’t know what to do
Everyone’s such an asshole to people with the “gay voice” i feel so bad
IM NOT GAY 😢 I want sound straight
Same 😢. I can’t get a date.
Im not the only one 😢
Same here
People on discord are crazy just because of my voice. I’m not even gay bro.
dude fr
thank you queen im so gay but I wanna hide it slay all day
bit weird but ok
Bars
Throughout my 4 years of highschool ive been asked ''are you gay'' or when i would talk/call with people ive never met before they' d also ask the same thing.. this happens especially when im nervous so during presentations or talking to people i have never met before. Language ALSO plays a role because speaking English makes it way worse
Yes my gay voice really destroyed my life. Because I am discriminated everywhere.
I really just need us because I need to play a straight person and a TV series
Everyone calls me gay :( I need this
and how did techno not sound gay? I get the deep voice but HEH
that's the weirdest problem I've ever had in my entire life :| Thank you for the help anyway :)
2:27
Professional tone of voice? Says who?
i think its just the voice ending not really about the pitch because my voice is quite deep but i say accen with silent t and maybe that comes off as gay (cope)
Intresting but i would like it if you could do a proper demonstration of how that would sound in sentences.
Sadly we have to code switch
Awesome video
Thanks, I like these tips. I will subscribe and review it again. Perhaps you can make training speaking videos for us to practice along. I am not ashamed of being gay but I don’t want my voice to dictate what peoples impression of me is. I want to have control of that narrative. Thanks for this tips.
I have to watch these videos so I can be taken seriously and that sucks
I would say be yourself and screw what other people think except that I really don't like effeminate male voices. And I have one. I don't aspire to conform. I just want to wear being a male the way you wear certain coat instead of that ugly sweater. It might be hopeless cause and I'm old and my personality is fairly established at this point. I don't know...
Mannerism as well not just the voice
I liked your video and think its useful.
Pro tip❤️: put the vid at 1.25 speed🥰🥰
So, this is a thing now...
Can't believe y'all want this boring ass voice when you can sound so FUN 🌈
im late to the game here but question for just lowering the tone and not going up and down with it. now i just sound like a bitchy monotone gay man. lmao help
You mean this isn't a parody?!
Thank you!! I hate my gay voice so much
It bothers me that this is even a thing you (and maybe other people) encounter. You’re pinning it on manner of speech but is it really just good old fashioned racism? In an interview I somehow doubt you said hey with an upward tone 🤣. In your videos you do speak very thoughtfully and precisely (thus slowly), is this also how you deliver in an interview?
You're cute 😍
Sssssssseriously?
Yyyyyyyyyyyyyes
:(
wtf is this
How to sound straight. Duh
@@yesbutactually909 😐
to straight pass for benefits
To avoid dying lol😇
I can’t change my voice people think I’m gay 😔
Same 😕
Just be yourself in this world.
try that in middle east😊