Sounds like a fair unbiased (free machines from companies) review. You do teachable videos and that's awesome. More and more metal detecting tubers could care less about the hobby they just want the free goodies. THANK YOU!
Very good video and pretty much spot on for most every point. I love my Nokta Legend and it's a very capable and durable machine. It is a little harder to use but once you setup your custom profiles you basically just go to the one you want and away you go. No questions XP Deus II and Manticore are great machines but you're paying a heck of a lot more for them. The price for XP Coils is just ridiculous and that was the big reason why I stayed away from XP. The Nokta Makro Legend has 5 coil options now and they range from $100 to $169 which is much more reasonable.
The Vanquish is a great machine! I almost bought one, but the Legend was on sale and I couldn't resist getting it for $550. It came with headphones and a full carbon fiber shaft plus the LG30 coil. It's a steal of a deal. I've already found a lot of old coins on the beach, the oldest coin I found is 1924. I've had it for a month and can't seem to put it down much lol 😊
Nice Video, R&R. Good information presented, without bias toward any one manufacturer. A big factor in which detector to buy is where one is going to use it. I don't hunt beaches b/c of my mid central location, but when the Apex came out, I became interested enough to buy one. At the time, ML was the only vendor selling their SMF machines, and SMF was what I wanted after owning a ML Sovereign many years ago. At the time of purchase, I had not metal detected for 15-20 years, so I wasn't sure if I would enjoy detecting again, so the Apex's cost was more in line with my budget. Garrett did a reasonable job with the Apex, and once learned does not disappoint. So much so that I have bought 2 other coils for it. I've found hundreds of coins, some jewelry and relics with the Apex at old homesites. I have hunted iron rich homesites with it, and it does a reasonable job. When the going gets tough as in denser iron, I use my Deus 2-9" coil. The Deus will hit a little deeper in my local soil matrix. The adjust ability of the Deus is what you pay for, and it sometimes helps on more difficult sites. A lot of older homesites don't require the ability of the Deus, so I use the Apex at these sites. My only wish is that Garrett would release an update for the Apex that included recovery time adjustment, and some others that you indicated; Or maybe and AT(Apex) version. The Deus is a lot more adjustable and for a comparable coil size can detect a little deeper. The persistence of the TID is much more stable on the Deus than the Apex, and the Deus RC is water proof for heavier rainfall or water hunting. A big factor for me was the lighter weight, like the Apex. At 70 yrs old, I like to minimize the weight to swing. I like both machines. Now there are other detectors available that are SMF which provide great performance/$ . But for now, I have both ends covered, so I'll enjoy what I have.
Thanks for your comments. Lots of good information contained in it. When the Apex first came out I wasn't impressed. After they did the update, things improved. It really is an OK detector for most sites.
Good video, I think I’m on the same page with you on the D2 and manticore decisions. I’m fortunate and have both, and sometimes struggle on which one to use as the primary. I guess I will continue to carry both …lol
I Absolutely love the Manticore-I've had mine for about 7 months and I am really comfortable with it-I just wish I could get my hands on the smaller coil
Good videos and fair comparisons on those machines, I own a Legend for now,it was more affordable to me and has many coils, for the future I would like that Manticore. Thanks for show the aspects.
I went from the Deus 2 to the manticore, because I have owned so many Minelabs that it just seemed like the right thing to do. Having said that, I am considering going back to the Deus, lol!
@@RelicsRings well, there are certain things about the Deus that make it a good fit for me. Mainly the wireless option. I didn’t think it would be that big of a deal, but it actually is. Also, it looks like I might end up doing some diving next summer and the rating on the manticore is not as deep. Plus all of the experiences with leaking equinox units back in the day do not instill a lot of confidence lol.
Great wrap up. Shared it with a friend. I've been telling him to get the Legend as he's kind of a tightwad. But he's been using my Nox 800 a lot and thinks he needs a Nox 900. I'm trying to talk him off that ledge lol! For him, new with a warranty, I really think the Legend is his best bet. But for his budget, if he really wants to get a Nox, I think a used 800 would be the way to go over the 900. For one machine, I'm happy with my choice of the Manticore (assuming I can ever get an M8). But, I sure wouldn't mind having a D2 to go with it!
Thanks, Dave. Glad you liked the video. I think I'd have to agree with you on the Legend. Great machine for the money, and once you learn all the menus, it's right on par with the Equinox. At this point , I'm really liking the Manticore/Deus 2 comb. Tough par to beat if it fits in your budget.
@maranathaanathama2153 a lot of new metal detectors have come out since I did the video. Garrett has 3 new models coming soon, Nokta has added a few and so has Minelab. There's a lot to choose from. I'd say pick a budget and then research the ones that fall in that price range.
Ive been detecting 35 years and used a lot of different detectors i loved the tesoros for the land , and for the beaches the cscope 4pi , however now theres lots of new technology around ive tried the deus 1 its was ok , the equinox 800 which personally i hated the noises and the build quality was a joke . Then i tried the xp deus 2 which is deeper on the beaches than the 4pi super fast in trash very light has 5 years warranty fantastic detector in my opinion , i haven't tried the manticore and have no intention of doing so as im very happy with the deus 2 , in my many years detecting one thing ive learnt is if you want to do well get a good detector your happy with and learn it inside out and stick with it learn its language dont look at screens listen to the ground , people who keep buying the latest detectors will not only waist there money but hever do very well either.
Nice outlook......Sure like my F75 too, but I guess that is becoming old school like me but I water hunt too and I want to retire my CZ21 Nice you8 put the APEX in there, I am a Garrett man from way,,,way back, but feel they have not kept up ...Thanks again
Aye. Still use my 75, and my F19. They've done me proud over the years. Got the 5" : 5x10" : 13" Detech DDs for the 75 plus it's standard 7x11". Same for the F19, minus the 7x11". Got a Legend too, for sh##ts and giggles. Damned if I'll get stung £1,000 plus for a machine...From the UK.
I'm hoping Garrett will get another SMF detector released soon. Now that Nokta has just announced 2 new SMF detectors, Garrett and Fisher have a lot of catching up to do.
@@RelicsRings Agree, I am a old Garrett man from the 80's and 90's, but the Americans have let it slip aways, I do have Fisher and they do the job,but you can't help to want to move on with the cell phone types :)) Just ordered a couple :))
To tell you the truth, just got two of the new big three, Legend and Manta, put them up against the 75 and they both lost with a really small bronze coin I look for here in Japan, just a flake of a coin. Can't go wrong with it @@KernowekTim
Excellent video. Very good, unbiased perspectives. Subbed your channel. Nothing more boring to me than 'fan-boys', hypists, coin planters or dullards. Thank you. From Cornwall UK.
Fantastic video. If i could trouble you with a question. I've been using the equinox 800 for about 4 years and i'm looking to upgrade to either a manticore or a deus 2 , i mainly hunt very trashy beaches with lots of foil , bottle caps , pull tabs and iron nails , which detector would be best for discriminating in those conditions ? Thanks
Either the Deus 2 or Manticore will work in those conditions. The Manticore I feel like is a bit deeper on the beach and the Deus 2 a bit better at separation. It comes down to which is more important to you.
i have the Garrett Gold AT, it sucks at the beach on the edge of the salt water. For plain sand or anything else its great. I dont dig hits under 30ish so it lets me be picky.
Guys, ive metal detected for 25 years, tried em all. NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING compared to the Whites V3i. It truly searched in three frequencies at the same time and deciphered, analyzed and gave you the information back in the correct frequency. Multi frequency is not the same as the V3i operating in 2khz, 7.5khz, and 22.5 khz. Its polar plot graph analyzing screen was 100% correct on if it is a coin or not. ALL in Color. Also, with the standard coil, I easily found silver dimes on edge at 11-12 inches, NOT KIDDING. Yes, it was complex to setup and expensive, but amazing. I'd never give mine up. What happened to whites?? SAD
Nothing compares to the V3i. It will find anything practically anywhere. Large color screen, completely programmable, nothing like it and everything out there today is still trying to catch up.
Great comparison video I think Deus 2, and Manticore are tops all around. About equal in my opinion for detecting. With all that said I am not a fan of the wire on the Dues in water and it makes a really high end detector look like it came out of the dollar store it’s just ugly and comes off in rough water. The multi plug up charge is not my favorite either I just don’t trust so many plugs. Small control box is not a plus either I like seeing the screen without having to squint and the VDI numbers go away to quickly to bring up and look closer. Both XY and 2D screens are just a tool don’t rely on either 100% but with manticore it’s a tool available on the big screen always without giving up VDI size.
I've found so many old silvers and coppors with the Apex ...It's been a great machine for me....I found my first 24 k gold ring with that machine.. It rang up like a silver dime high on vdi scale.. I'm wondering what did your gold coin ring up at ?
I think he used the Minelab more then the Legend. His biggest pet peeve was the menu lol it’s the same menu type as all the rest. Multi menus. Only when you use it does it become easy.
You are right I do use the Minelab more than the Legend, no secret there. And yes the menu becomes second nature the more you use it. It's really not an issue overall for me but for a beginner it can be quit overwhelming trying to figure out the menu if you're not reading the manual.
I’ve got the manticore and love it. But always wasn’t the case. I’m semi new to detecting 3-4 years. I started on nox 800 and really liked the machine but once the manticore came out I wanted the 2D screen. The menu is awesome on manticore but at first I was overwhelmed by all the options. The update has helped with iron falsing but that drove me nuts for awhile. The sound would sound great and then you dig a square nail. Now I almost always know before I dig it. I was going to buy d2 but didn’t like menu or screen so I went with manticore. I’m sure either one would be great for a experienced person
@@RelicsRings There is very little to gain in performance between the Manticore and the 800 to be honest, someone with a lot of experience with the 800 would run rings around someone with the Manticore. The 800 is still one of the best detectors Minelab have ever made..
@martinsmith2984 well just by default anyone that bought an Equinox 800 when first released would have more experience than someone who just got a Manticore. Equinox is a great detector, only time will tell which is better. Having said that I still won't be going back to the 800, I really like the Manticore.
@@RelicsRings I have been detecting 40yrs, used all the top end detectors from all manufactures, in terms of performance the Manticore and Deus 2 are really not so far ahead of the 800 as some people seem to think, only talking about performance as in depth, sensitivity, ability to pull targets from areas other machines struggle..
@@RelicsRings As for the apex it should not be in that line up, and you said the Deus 2 was deeper that the Manticore on the beach its not. Gold prospecting none of that line up would be used by any serious gold prospector, What seems to happen now is people have several detectors they use from time to time so they never get the best out of any of them as there swapping and changing all the time. To really understand how good a machine is it must be used for 100s of hours in different locations with different conditions not half a hour here half an hour there, then back to the other machine, I dont like to have several machines at any one time, I tend to use a machine for several years to really get to know it and get the best out of it. The market is flooded with new machines now and people swap and change every other month then claim this detector is better than that detector when in truth they never take the time with any of them...
I felt the same way when I got my Legend but after just using it I was not bad at all to figure out. I agree that the screen on my Manticore it much better than Legend but performance is so close on the two that Manticore is certainly not worth $1000 more.
I agree with you about the Legend menu. After you use it for a while, it's not bad to navigate. It's like every other detector, you get used to it after a few days of using it. I still don't like how small everything is, though. I do feel like the Manticore is overpriced, especially with the recent price increase. However, I still prefer it over the Legend for many reasons.
@@RelicsRings I am also seeing a better performance with Manticore over Legend. I just wish it would pair to the $10 ear buds like Legend so I can still wear my sun hat while on the beach.
I have been Metal detecting for over 40 years and I can tell you for a fact that no machine is as good as the site you use it on. Get a great place to detect and you can use a crook handled c-Scope and make great finds.
Nothing Wrong with the Legend menu layout I learned the whole thing in a couple of days. You have to learn how to use equipment no mater what kind it is. The Manuel explains everything. The Legend is the best machine for the dollar in my opinion!!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Yes everyone should read the manual and in the case of the Legend & Deus 2 for a beginner you need it on your phone for reference when in the field, unless you have a real good memory. Legend has hidden menu options that are not apparent from just scrolling through the menu. Not well laid IMO, but yes it is easy to learn over a few days of use. I also agree the Legend is the best machine for the money.
Tarsacci might be a good alternative. But I never could get used to the tones on it. My personal preference is to just use a pulse induction like the GPX in heavy minerals.
Great gold detector for the money, especially paired with the 5x10 HF coil. Not quit as sensitive as the Equinox series or Manticore, but it's right up there for multi-purpose .metal detectors
I use my GPX 6000 for relic hunting and it's very stable. Don't really miss the iron reject either as I'm digging deeper stuff and iron reject doesn't work in the deep stuff over 6" anyway.
Does the Deus 2 have that external wire that has to be hooked up from coil to pod when submersing it in water? Did they improve the latch so you don’t lose the control pod? I’m guessing these downsides were on the first Deus model.
Yes, Deus 2 requires an external cable running from the coil to the remote in order to submerge it. There is an after market accessory available to hold the remote on better, but I haven't used one myself.
It's a very capable machine and one of the best for the money. It's hard to do a deep dive into all the machines without making a 1 hour video. Just tried to keep it informative and not too long.
I think they're both great detectors. I don't own either anymore, but of I had to choose between the 2 I'd go with the Legend just because it's multi frequency.
900 nox never beat it in a gold fields here in Australia 🇦🇺 price and ya get 5m water proof . menu brilliant. With what ya can do as well with a 6 ins coil on notch no one will beat it.
Forget multi frequency detectors....go with a pulse machine and make finds up to 3 feet...black sand beach of Panama...incredible but true...Whites TDI
Manticore, Deus and Equinox all very expensive and not offering any substantial advantage for the very high price!! The Apex is not good in trashy sites! That's why I bought the Nokta Legend. I got it on sale for $550 U.S. and it's nothing less then fantastic!
@RelicsRings interesting... reason I brought that up First Texas has them forsale at that price with Waranty. My F5 is a small chain and small gold ring finding magnet, The Omega 8000 is a stud on Silver, The Simplex+ is just fun to use and I've used it enough to figure the jumpy target ID to nail down quite a few 9 inch finds. The Nokta Impact is just Deep and versatile the Deus one just stupid good in Iron. But in the real world of finds under 6 inches out of the 21 units I own I really find no real world differences from a 1983 Tesor Silver Saber to my Etrac. It's after 6 inches that gets interesting but detectors like my Tesoro Vaquero or modified Cibola hang just as well as my others. One of my sleepers is a dang old Garrett GTI 2500. Recovery speeds and processing speeds on some are better then others. But in the wild comparing targets just depends on my current search setup and coil I'm using at that given time. I just watched a video of the Legend getting beat out by three analog units in a simple iron test that the guy replicated on his actual recorder video dig. He then took the V or horse shoe bent nail placed the coin same way he found it and could get the magical cyclop see all Legend to get it or however he says it very funny sarcasm video but I get where he is coming from with all the marketing hype, even Dilec gets into with Calabash and I think it's a marketing ploy myself. I guess I'll buy one since it's the cheapest of all the Multi-IQ machines and give it a go.
@rickvann3489 I have mineralized dirt, so anything that can get a dime at 6" and give an ID is good. Most of those single frequency machines you mentioned will not hit a 6" dime here. If you don't have mineralized dirt, then I'm sure any of those machines you mentioned will do just fine. I also enjoy waterproof control box, wireless headphones, internal rechargeable batteries, adjustable iron bias, adjustable recovery speed and multi frequency that none of those detectors you mentioned have. The Legend is like having 4 detectors in one. Once you use I for a while. I'm sure you're going to like it.
I have the Deus 2, Manticore and Nokta as well and I find the Deus2 and Manticore both very good in iron I have been digging on a colonial site recently and both are pulling good targets out of heavy iron. The deus does a great job but I am not a fan of the small control box, the manticore is super deep and it loves hitting the smaller targets, also the 2d display is nice tool but much like XY on the deus I don’t rely on it for anything more than a second point of reference. I’d recommend turning sensitivity down on your Manticore to 22 or lower even and you’ll still find it still very deep and equal to the deus in iron from what I have seen. Both great machines I just prefer the larger control and screen on Manticore.
Sounds like a fair unbiased (free machines from companies) review. You do teachable videos and that's awesome. More and more metal detecting tubers could care less about the hobby they just want the free goodies. THANK YOU!
Thanks I try to be unbiased as I can, but I'm sure I still have my bias in some cases.
We all do, it's natural. I haven't noticed many tubers like you and do actual machine comparisons on the same natural targets. Thank you.@@RelicsRings
Accurate review of the top four detectors. Thanks for taking the time and being thorough.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Thanks for your valuable opinion. Great overview of all--- I'm a Nokta man. Thanks for your time Sir.
Thanks for watching! Nokta makes some great detectors.
Very good video and pretty much spot on for most every point. I love my Nokta Legend and it's a very capable and durable machine. It is a little harder to use but once you setup your custom profiles you basically just go to the one you want and away you go. No questions XP Deus II and Manticore are great machines but you're paying a heck of a lot more for them. The price for XP Coils is just ridiculous and that was the big reason why I stayed away from XP. The Nokta Makro Legend has 5 coil options now and they range from $100 to $169 which is much more reasonable.
Always appreciate someone who talks pros and cons. Critical reviews can be hard to come by. True sign of honesty.
Thanks
I like my Minelab Vanquish 440. Accurate readings, multi frequency, light weight, and cheap!
All you need'
how's the depth reading?
The Vanquish is a great machine! I almost bought one, but the Legend was on sale and I couldn't resist getting it for $550. It came with headphones and a full carbon fiber shaft plus the LG30 coil. It's a steal of a deal. I've already found a lot of old coins on the beach, the oldest coin I found is 1924. I've had it for a month and can't seem to put it down much lol 😊
@@racequad9 Dimes at an honest 10 inches. More at the beach.
Nice Video, R&R. Good information presented, without bias toward any one manufacturer.
A big factor in which detector to buy is where one is going to use it. I don't hunt beaches b/c of my mid central location, but when the Apex came out, I became interested enough to buy one. At the time, ML was the only vendor selling their SMF machines, and SMF was what I wanted after owning a ML Sovereign many years ago. At the time of purchase, I had not metal detected for 15-20 years, so I wasn't sure if I would enjoy detecting again, so the Apex's cost was more in line with my budget.
Garrett did a reasonable job with the Apex, and once learned does not disappoint. So much so that I have bought 2 other coils for it. I've found hundreds of coins, some jewelry and relics with the Apex at old homesites. I have hunted iron rich homesites with it, and it does a reasonable job. When the going gets tough as in denser iron, I use my Deus 2-9" coil. The Deus will hit a little deeper in my local soil matrix. The adjust ability of the Deus is what you pay for, and it sometimes helps on more difficult sites. A lot of older homesites don't require the ability of the Deus, so I use the Apex at these sites. My only wish is that Garrett would release an update for the Apex that included recovery time adjustment, and some others that you indicated; Or maybe and AT(Apex) version.
The Deus is a lot more adjustable and for a comparable coil size can detect a little deeper. The persistence of the TID is much more stable on the Deus than the Apex, and the Deus RC is water proof for heavier rainfall or water hunting. A big factor for me was the lighter weight, like the Apex. At 70 yrs old, I like to minimize the weight to swing. I like both machines. Now there are other detectors available that are SMF which provide great performance/$ . But for now, I have both ends covered, so I'll enjoy what I have.
Thanks for your comments. Lots of good information contained in it. When the Apex first came out I wasn't impressed. After they did the update, things improved. It really is an OK detector for most sites.
I use the Rutus Versa, and for the price is tremendous. Once mastered its a very clever well made machine for tiny coins etc
Good video, I think I’m on the same page with you on the D2 and manticore decisions. I’m fortunate and have both, and sometimes struggle on which one to use as the primary. I guess I will continue to carry both …lol
Thanks. It's always good to have a backup along, even if you don't use them both on every trip.
Thank you for the detailed comparison!
Your welcome
Thanks for a very honest review. I'll check out some of your other videos.
I love Manticore with 8" Inch coil. My Deus 2 and Double Score standby only For Backup Machine.. 😊
I Absolutely love the Manticore-I've had mine for about 7 months and I am really comfortable with it-I just wish I could get my hands on the smaller coil
Small coils should be readily available after the first of the year.
Looking forward to you adding the Nokta Score to your comparisons. Looks pretty sweet so far...
Yea, too bad they're not readily available yet. Maybe after the first of the year.
Good video sir. I have the Manticore and want to buy the Deus II. I have no reason why other than I want it. Take care.
Thanks for sharing, helpful for sure !!! Cheers
Oh no, Snow! The Deus ll & Manticore. And of course my Whites TDI Pulse Scan. Nice review.
Yea snow. Had 3 of those TDI pulse scans in the past. The GPX eventually took their place. Thanks for watching.
Good videos and fair comparisons on those machines, I own a Legend for now,it was more affordable to me and has many coils, for the future I would like that Manticore. Thanks for show the aspects.
Thanks glad you liked the video. Legend is great for the money.
Thank you for this. It was professional and objective
Really nice review of the detectors. Having had 3 of the 4, you've covered all of the pro's and con's of each well.
Glad you enjoyed it
Sweet love the review my manticore amazing looking at a deus 2 for iron trashy small coil instead of the manticore small coil thx
I went from the Deus 2 to the manticore, because I have owned so many Minelabs that it just seemed like the right thing to do. Having said that, I am considering going back to the Deus, lol!
I really like both. Hard for me to hey rid of either one.
@@RelicsRings well, there are certain things about the Deus that make it a good fit for me. Mainly the wireless option. I didn’t think it would be that big of a deal, but it actually is. Also, it looks like I might end up doing some diving next summer and the rating on the manticore is not as deep. Plus all of the experiences with leaking equinox units back in the day do not instill a lot of confidence lol.
Great wrap up. Shared it with a friend. I've been telling him to get the Legend as he's kind of a tightwad. But he's been using my Nox 800 a lot and thinks he needs a Nox 900. I'm trying to talk him off that ledge lol! For him, new with a warranty, I really think the Legend is his best bet. But for his budget, if he really wants to get a Nox, I think a used 800 would be the way to go over the 900.
For one machine, I'm happy with my choice of the Manticore (assuming I can ever get an M8). But, I sure wouldn't mind having a D2 to go with it!
Thanks, Dave. Glad you liked the video. I think I'd have to agree with you on the Legend. Great machine for the money, and once you learn all the menus, it's right on par with the Equinox.
At this point , I'm really liking the Manticore/Deus 2 comb. Tough par to beat if it fits in your budget.
Im new in this field.... loving it ❤
Just getting started and trying to figure out what to buy.
@maranathaanathama2153 a lot of new metal detectors have come out since I did the video. Garrett has 3 new models coming soon, Nokta has added a few and so has Minelab. There's a lot to choose from. I'd say pick a budget and then research the ones that fall in that price range.
@@RelicsRings what would you suggest in the $500. Range? I live on an old plantation in South Carolina and I’m 3 hours from Myrtle Beach.
@maranathaanathama2153 there's the Minelab X-terra elite or Nokta Triple Score for about $470. Either one would do you good.
Ive been detecting 35 years and used a lot of different detectors i loved the tesoros for the land , and for the beaches the cscope 4pi , however now theres lots of new technology around ive tried the deus 1 its was ok , the equinox 800 which personally i hated the noises and the build quality was a joke . Then i tried the xp deus 2 which is deeper on the beaches than the 4pi super fast in trash very light has 5 years warranty fantastic detector in my opinion , i haven't tried the manticore and have no intention of doing so as im very happy with the deus 2 , in my many years detecting one thing ive learnt is if you want to do well get a good detector your happy with and learn it inside out and stick with it learn its language dont look at screens listen to the ground , people who keep buying the latest detectors will not only waist there money but hever do very well either.
IYO, is the Deus II good for beaches as well as old school sites? Thanks for sharing any insight you have.
Nice outlook......Sure like my F75 too, but I guess that is becoming old school like me
but I water hunt too and I want to retire my CZ21
Nice you8 put the APEX in there, I am a Garrett man from way,,,way back, but feel they have not kept up ...Thanks again
Aye. Still use my 75, and my F19. They've done me proud over the years. Got the 5" : 5x10" : 13" Detech DDs for the 75 plus it's standard 7x11". Same for the F19, minus the 7x11". Got a Legend too, for sh##ts and giggles. Damned if I'll get stung £1,000 plus for a machine...From the UK.
I'm hoping Garrett will get another SMF detector released soon. Now that Nokta has just announced 2 new SMF detectors, Garrett and Fisher have a lot of catching up to do.
@@RelicsRings Agree, I am a old Garrett man from the 80's and 90's, but the Americans have let it slip aways, I do have Fisher and they do the job,but you can't help to want to move on with the cell phone types :)) Just ordered a couple :))
I just got the Legend too...See what happens @@KernowekTim
To tell you the truth, just got two of the new big three, Legend and Manta, put them up against the 75 and they both lost with a really small bronze coin I look for here in Japan, just a flake of a coin. Can't go wrong with it @@KernowekTim
Excellent video. Very good, unbiased perspectives. Subbed your channel. Nothing more boring to me than 'fan-boys', hypists, coin planters or dullards. Thank you. From Cornwall UK.
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. Appreciate the sub
Love the at pro when I was detecting their was no vdi an old Garett tr we would here the tones was more then 30 yrs ago you young people have it made
Nice video. Well done.
Thanks
Great job breaking down all the details. I also agree with your opinion on the legend. I have good eyes and it bothers me also.
Thanks, Yea if they would just change that screen and menu layout. Otherwise it's a great detector.
Fantastic video. If i could trouble you with a question. I've been using the equinox 800 for about 4 years and i'm looking to upgrade to either a manticore or a deus 2 , i mainly hunt very trashy beaches with lots of foil , bottle caps , pull tabs and iron nails , which detector would be best for discriminating in those conditions ? Thanks
Either the Deus 2 or Manticore will work in those conditions. The Manticore I feel like is a bit deeper on the beach and the Deus 2 a bit better at separation. It comes down to which is more important to you.
@@RelicsRings thanks
i have the Garrett Gold AT, it sucks at the beach on the edge of the salt water. For plain sand or anything else its great. I dont dig hits under 30ish so it lets me be picky.
An excellent honest video. Thank you
Thanks
This was a big help thank you
Guys, ive metal detected for 25 years, tried em all. NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING compared to the Whites V3i. It truly searched in three frequencies at the same time and deciphered, analyzed and gave you the information back in the correct frequency. Multi frequency is not the same as the V3i operating in 2khz, 7.5khz, and 22.5 khz. Its polar plot graph analyzing screen was 100% correct on if it is a coin or not. ALL in Color. Also, with the standard coil, I easily found silver dimes on edge at 11-12 inches, NOT KIDDING. Yes, it was complex to setup and expensive, but amazing. I'd never give mine up. What happened to whites?? SAD
The V3i was definitely ahead of its time. It's too bad Garrett doesn't do something with the tech.
L o l. complex and inexpensive.... You should have led with that.
The whites TDI pro needs to be brought back by Garrett with a waterproof housing that thing would sell like hotcakes in canada
I grew up near whites headquarters, the engineers were always very kind when id show up with my nerdy kid questions, hah.
Nothing compares to the V3i. It will find anything practically anywhere. Large color screen, completely programmable, nothing like it and everything out there today is still trying to catch up.
Great information
I'm still loving my Minelab Sov GT from 2005.
Any opinions on the Nokta Multi Kruzer for Relic hunting? I can get it brand new for $350 and am seriously considering it. Thanks
I had a multi kruzer a few years back but never really liked the audio on it. But other than that it does fine.
Great comparison video I think Deus 2, and Manticore are tops all around. About equal in my opinion for detecting. With all that said I am not a fan of the wire on the Dues in water and it makes a really high end detector look like it came out of the dollar store it’s just ugly and comes off in rough water. The multi plug up charge is not my favorite either I just don’t trust so many plugs. Small control box is not a plus either I like seeing the screen without having to squint and the VDI numbers go away to quickly to bring up and look closer. Both XY and 2D screens are just a tool don’t rely on either 100% but with manticore it’s a tool available on the big screen always without giving up VDI size.
Definitely a lot of drawbacks for the Deus 2 that Manticore doesn't have. Gladbyou like the video, appreciate your comments.
Thank y for sharing yr knowledge, very helpful
I've found so many old silvers and coppors with the Apex ...It's been a great machine for me....I found my first 24 k gold ring with that machine.. It rang up like a silver dime high on vdi scale.. I'm wondering what did your gold coin ring up at ?
Very nice! The gold coin came up at 53 on the Deus 2
100% correct about the awful Legend menu layout
I use multi frequency.you have the option of 5 different frequencies to use individually or multiple frequency.
I still love my Fisher CZ-21.
I think he used the Minelab more then the Legend. His biggest pet peeve was the menu lol it’s the same menu type as all the rest. Multi menus. Only when you use it does it become easy.
You are right I do use the Minelab more than the Legend, no secret there. And yes the menu becomes second nature the more you use it. It's really not an issue overall for me but for a beginner it can be quit overwhelming trying to figure out the menu if you're not reading the manual.
All good...All will find goodies...good price good value can't beat Minelab xterra pro...Equinox..😊
Great info….Thanks
I’ve got the manticore and love it. But always wasn’t the case. I’m semi new to detecting 3-4 years. I started on nox 800 and really liked the machine but once the manticore came out I wanted the 2D screen. The menu is awesome on manticore but at first I was overwhelmed by all the options. The update has helped with iron falsing but that drove me nuts for awhile. The sound would sound great and then you dig a square nail. Now I almost always know before I dig it. I was going to buy d2 but didn’t like menu or screen so I went with manticore. I’m sure either one would be great for a experienced person
Thanks for the comments. Agree with a lot of what you said. Love my Manticore too, won't be going back to the 800 at this point.
@@RelicsRings There is very little to gain in performance between the Manticore and the 800 to be honest, someone with a lot of experience with the 800 would run rings around someone with the Manticore. The 800 is still one of the best detectors Minelab have ever made..
@martinsmith2984 well just by default anyone that bought an Equinox 800 when first released would have more experience than someone who just got a Manticore. Equinox is a great detector, only time will tell which is better. Having said that I still won't be going back to the 800, I really like the Manticore.
@@RelicsRings I have been detecting 40yrs, used all the top end detectors from all manufactures, in terms of performance the Manticore and Deus 2 are really not so far ahead of the 800 as some people seem to think, only talking about performance as in depth, sensitivity, ability to pull targets from areas other machines struggle..
@@RelicsRings As for the apex it should not be in that line up, and you said the Deus 2 was deeper that the Manticore on the beach its not. Gold prospecting none of that line up would be used by any serious gold prospector, What seems to happen now is people have several detectors they use from time to time so they never get the best out of any of them as there swapping and changing all the time. To really understand how good a machine is it must be used for 100s of hours in different locations with different conditions not half a hour here half an hour there, then back to the other machine, I dont like to have several machines at any one time, I tend to use a machine for several years to really get to know it and get the best out of it. The market is flooded with new machines now and people swap and change every other month then claim this detector is better than that detector when in truth they never take the time with any of them...
I felt the same way when I got my Legend but after just using it I was not bad at all to figure out. I agree that the screen on my Manticore it much better than Legend but performance is so close on the two that Manticore is certainly not worth $1000 more.
I agree with you about the Legend menu. After you use it for a while, it's not bad to navigate. It's like every other detector, you get used to it after a few days of using it. I still don't like how small everything is, though. I do feel like the Manticore is overpriced, especially with the recent price increase. However, I still prefer it over the Legend for many reasons.
@@RelicsRings I am also seeing a better performance with Manticore over Legend. I just wish it would pair to the $10 ear buds like Legend so I can still wear my sun hat while on the beach.
I have been Metal detecting for over 40 years and I can tell you for a fact that no machine is as good as the site you use it on.
Get a great place to detect and you can use a crook handled c-Scope and make great finds.
Agree
Nothing Wrong with the Legend menu layout I learned the whole thing in a couple of days. You have to learn how to use equipment no mater what kind it is. The Manuel explains everything. The Legend is the best machine for the dollar in my opinion!!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Yes everyone should read the manual and in the case of the Legend & Deus 2 for a beginner you need it on your phone for reference when in the field, unless you have a real good memory. Legend has hidden menu options that are not apparent from just scrolling through the menu. Not well laid IMO, but yes it is easy to learn over a few days of use. I also agree the Legend is the best machine for the money.
Well done thank you. Subscribed.
I own deus 2
But hunt in extreme mineral
Do you recommend tarcassi 8000
Tarsacci might be a good alternative. But I never could get used to the tones on it. My personal preference is to just use a pulse induction like the GPX in heavy minerals.
@@RelicsRings I had whites. Tdi and Garret atx
But i couldn’t really trust the disc on them
For a beginner hunting specifically for gold which one would you recommend for the best overall results?
Of the ones in this video, I'd say the Manticore. But if you want a dedicated gold prospecting detector, the gold monster is the easiest to use.
😊would like your opinion on the ORX mostly looking for gold
Great gold detector for the money, especially paired with the 5x10 HF coil. Not quit as sensitive as the Equinox series or Manticore, but it's right up there for multi-purpose .metal detectors
what is better Nokta Legend or XP ORX X35 28CM ???
there is loads of coils out for the manticore.coiltek coils in lots of sizes
Ok, send me a link.
What did that $1 come in at on the Deus 2. A friend of mine found one with an equinox but sold it.
53
@@RelicsRings thank you!
Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks
Thankyou
You’re welcome 😊
Deus 2 and
for the red dirt gpx 4500 ❤❤❤🎉
6000 not 4500
@@zrbsrbija the 6000 is a fine machine but lacks the stability and iron rejection for the relic hunting I use it for
@@theshankisintact I guess it works for me in Ohio yea the red dirt i see
@@zrbsrbija oh man then I'll need to check it out
I use my GPX 6000 for relic hunting and it's very stable. Don't really miss the iron reject either as I'm digging deeper stuff and iron reject doesn't work in the deep stuff over 6" anyway.
Does the Deus 2 have that external wire that has to be hooked up from coil to pod when submersing it in water? Did they improve the latch so you don’t lose the control pod? I’m guessing these downsides were on the first Deus model.
Yes, Deus 2 requires an external cable running from the coil to the remote in order to submerge it. There is an after market accessory available to hold the remote on better, but I haven't used one myself.
Hello man witch one the best for depth please tell me I want only depth for tresure in India
@@NarendraSingh-yx5hk the Legend will work for treasure and is the best value for the money.
Et les Quest ? V60 ou V80 ?
You didn't cover much information on the Nokta Legend is that machine any good or is it just not capable of what these other machines do?
It's a very capable machine and one of the best for the money. It's hard to do a deep dive into all the machines without making a 1 hour video. Just tried to keep it informative and not too long.
What’s your opinion on the Nox 800?
Great metal detector, used it for years before the Manticore came out.
How do you feel about the LEGEND or Deus 1
I think they're both great detectors. I don't own either anymore, but of I had to choose between the 2 I'd go with the Legend just because it's multi frequency.
900 nox never beat it in a gold fields here in Australia 🇦🇺 price and ya get 5m water proof . menu brilliant. With what ya can do as well with a 6 ins coil on notch no one will beat it.
hiiii.who knows what meteal detectors can work in depth of 1.5 or2 meters???????
Forget multi frequency detectors....go with a pulse machine and make finds up to 3 feet...black sand beach of Panama...incredible but true...Whites TDI
Ledgen
You keep mentioning Manticore iron trace but not Legend's FERRO CHECK.
Too many features on all the machines to cover in a 15 minute video. I didn't say anything about the XY screen on the Deus 2 either.
Manticore, Deus and Equinox all very expensive and not offering any substantial advantage for the very high price!! The Apex is not good in trashy sites! That's why I bought the Nokta Legend. I got it on sale for $550 U.S. and it's nothing less then fantastic!
So the Legend wasn't a first pick for anything.
Best value for your money, hands down.
@RelicsRings would you buy the Legend for $509 or vaule for your money or an F70/ Patriot brand new for $180
@@rickvann3489 Legend
@RelicsRings interesting... reason I brought that up First Texas has them forsale at that price with Waranty. My F5 is a small chain and small gold ring finding magnet, The Omega 8000 is a stud on Silver, The Simplex+ is just fun to use and I've used it enough to figure the jumpy target ID to nail down quite a few 9 inch finds. The Nokta Impact is just Deep and versatile the Deus one just stupid good in Iron. But in the real world of finds under 6 inches out of the 21 units I own I really find no real world differences from a 1983 Tesor Silver Saber to my Etrac. It's after 6 inches that gets interesting but detectors like my Tesoro Vaquero or modified Cibola hang just as well as my others. One of my sleepers is a dang old Garrett GTI 2500. Recovery speeds and processing speeds on some are better then others. But in the wild comparing targets just depends on my current search setup and coil I'm using at that given time. I just watched a video of the Legend getting beat out by three analog units in a simple iron test that the guy replicated on his actual recorder video dig. He then took the V or horse shoe bent nail placed the coin same way he found it and could get the magical cyclop see all Legend to get it or however he says it very funny sarcasm video but I get where he is coming from with all the marketing hype, even Dilec gets into with Calabash and I think it's a marketing ploy myself. I guess I'll buy one since it's the cheapest of all the Multi-IQ machines and give it a go.
@rickvann3489 I have mineralized dirt, so anything that can get a dime at 6" and give an ID is good. Most of those single frequency machines you mentioned will not hit a 6" dime here. If you don't have mineralized dirt, then I'm sure any of those machines you mentioned will do just fine. I also enjoy waterproof control box, wireless headphones, internal rechargeable batteries, adjustable iron bias, adjustable recovery speed and multi frequency that none of those detectors you mentioned have. The Legend is like having 4 detectors in one. Once you use I for a while. I'm sure you're going to like it.
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Manticore is not that great it sucks in iron
I have the Deus 2, Manticore and Nokta as well and I find the Deus2 and Manticore both very good in iron I have been digging on a colonial site recently and both are pulling good targets out of heavy iron. The deus does a great job but I am not a fan of the small control box, the manticore is super deep and it loves hitting the smaller targets, also the 2d display is nice tool but much like XY on the deus I don’t rely on it for anything more than a second point of reference. I’d recommend turning sensitivity down on your Manticore to 22 or lower even and you’ll still find it still very deep and equal to the deus in iron from what I have seen. Both great machines I just prefer the larger control and screen on Manticore.
It does OK in iron with the M8 coil, but I still prefer the Deus 2 in iron.
@@tonydowns8705 thanks for the advice
@@RelicsRings thanks for the advice
Can any of these guys make a short fricking video that gets to the point? 2-4 minutes with no repeating. Anything we miss we can watch again.
How do you expect someone to provide a thorough and accurate review on 4 devices in two minutes? This is quite short considering what is covered.
Take a Garrett at pro, always works well.