Thanks to your videos I just got the G85 as a birthday present to myself and I couldn't be more excited. However, I still need to learn how to use it since it has so many buttons and options. Maybe you could make a tutorial on how to take advantage of the most important features of this camera such as 4K live cropping and settings for manual video filming, it would be awesome. Cheers!
I bought 2 of these at once! the second is lost/delayed in the mail, I'm trying to be patient. but here I am, fixating and watching this fantastic review of something I already bought. preach brother!
Just used 4k live crop for some product shots for an upcoming video. I have had a g85 since it came out love this camera. The Panasonic app is amazing! There are so many reasons to love it even more at the current price.
hello. great video. can I please ask - what are you using for audio when you're doing the vlogging in the forest? I see a lav, but what it is it? And, do you have the levels on the camera all the way down, or s it working stock? last question if you don't mind - does it have a limiter on the audio? I do guitar demos, and it could get really loud - will it limit the audio, so it doesn't clip? I have a canon (XA20), and the audio is exceptional, and limits perfectly. thanks!
Also, I just rewatched the video and it looks like TEDD is using the RODE VideoMic Go, which is a wireless mic that you connect to your camera and then can clip onto your shirt or plug into a lav. I just got the Panasonic G85 myself thanks to TEDD's vids, and there is a limiter for the audio as well as mic gain controls. I haven't tested to see how loud I can push it, so I don't know if it'll clip if doing guitar demos. If all else fails, just get a ZOOM H1n and either plug it into the camera or sync the audio in post. I know for sure the ZOOMs can be pushed and heck, I was able to record an Uli John Roth concert almost up front many moons back and it sounded great!
A week ago i sold my a6300 and bought g85 ( g80 here in europe ) . Stabilization is amazing. Makes a massive difference. I can shoot handheld with not stabilized lens and get very good results . With A6300 even on gimball it was difficult. Good video !
You're who I come to when I've watched a bunch of technical/clinical videos about the G85 but what I really want is HYPE! I got hype AND you brought up some features about the camera that others didn't really talk about, like the live cropping and Panasonic's app. Thanks!
I just bought one last week, I'm just testing everything to this day. I had a Canon 60d for 9 years and it's a little weird adjusting to this new, gorgeous camera 😏
I picked this up after watching some of your other G85 videos and took it on a trip to Alaska last week. I was super impressed with photo and video especially. Thanks for breaking things down for a regular Joe can understand what they should look for.
Good video and I do think the Panasonic G cameras are under rated. I had a buddy turn me onto them a couple years ago and I’m super happy. Shared this vid with a friend who is looking for her first RUclips vlog camera.
Hey dad amazing video you are the only "good" ytber that still takes a look at the g85 thanks man Can we see a M50vsG85 video that could be very interesting!!
Hey there, you and James Popsys got me to buy this little gem and I'm loving it! It's such a capable camera full of functions that are available only in much more expensive models in the competition. I love my Panny g85!
As a recent G85 owner, I think I can tell you why the G85 is not king of the vlogging market. It's the (very) poor continuous autofocus in video mode. You mention it several times, but I think you are downplaying by a lot just how big a problem it can be. In my experience, it's so bad that it makes the camera almost unusable. I really wish I'd spent my hard-earned money on something else. Your solution - to simply set the focus by touching the screen - doesn't work for me for two reasons. The main reason is that I don't want to film only myself while shooting video. I routinely turn the camera around and take video of scenery, objects, and other people around me. And then I reverse the camera and aim it at my face again. And for that, continuous autofocus is essential, and it simply doesn't work on the G85. It won't focus on anything by itself no matter what magic combination of settings I use. And if, by some miracle, it does achieve focus correctly, the background pulses in and out of focus, and it is very distracting and annoying. The other reason your technique doesn't work very well is that when I hold the camera away from me far enough to achieve a wide field of view, I can't reach the screen to touch it. It's too far away. I have to bring the camera closer to my face so that I can touch it and lock focus. But then I hold the camera farther away, and the focus becomes slightly off. And even if it works, it's hard to tell that it worked. I'm generally shooting in bright daylight, and I can't make out what is on the screen anyway. I can't tell if it locked focus or not. I've seen other G85 users try all kinds of techniques. They use long pointers to touch the screen or they attach a remote shutter so that they can trigger the focus. In my case, I've had to come up with a complicated system (employing back button focus) to use multiple focus modes. I'm essentially switching between multiple focusing modes depending on whether I'm pointing the G85 towards my face or away from me. And out in the busy real world, that isn't easy to do, and I constantly forget to do it or I do it wrong or it takes forever. I end up thinking about the focusing, worrying about it, and managing it constantly, and it drives me crazy. All I can think about is how nice it would be to have a camera that would simply automatically focus on whatever it is pointed at. I don't care that much about image quality or 4K or fancy features or any of that. I just want a camera that will focus on its own. And the G85 is not that camera. I agree with all the positive points you made about the G85 - particularly at its price point. That's why I bought it. And I thought the autofocus would be just good enough or that I could come up with a technique to work around it, but that hasn't turned out to be true for me.
Yep i sold mine for those reasons autofocus is so so bad on the G85... it really messed up so much of my footage where i dont carry a external monitor and am out and about and cant continieusly watch the autofocus, interviews, vlogs etc... so many messed up hours and footage.. i sold it with love.
@@RebelChumps I see the same fate for my G85. I imagine I will sell it soon (with love, as you said) and look for something else. I have no idea what could replace it, though. There still isn't a low-budget/mid-range camera on the market that ticks all the boxes on my wish-list. And my wish-list is a pretty simple one, I think: good IBIS, good continuous autofocus, a flip-out screen, a mic jack, and relatively small and lightweight. I looked long and hard at the A6400, and it seemed suitable except for the lack of IBIS. The A6500 does have IBIS, but it lacks a flip-out screen (and the IBIS doesn't seem particularly good). And it goes on and on. No camera on the market seems to fit my rather simple requirements. That surprises me. It's crazy, but I find myself reaching for my GoPro every time I go outside now. The G85 just stays in its bag. The GoPro has worse image quality and worse everything compared to the G85, but at least I don't have to worry about whether things are in focus or not. 🙂
Wondering if in the bright day exteriors and with the wide angle focal length typical in a vlogging situation you could just set a hyperfocal distance and forget it.
I bought the G85 after your first video. I am getting back into photography, and I have to say you didn't steer me wrong. I have shot some amazing images that require very little post editing. I also shot some 4K video and yes, it too is pretty darn good. Need to play with the live cropping though. Wish you would have compared it to the output of the A6400, but Sony has some great glass which would have an impact. In a year or two this will be my B-roll camera, but for now it is doing a pretty fine job as my primary. Thank you for your insight, enthusiasm, and ideas. Keep doing what you are doing...we appreciate it.
@@dougzauha You have to compare price. The Panasonic G95 is closer in price to the Sony A6400. I haven't seen many reviews on the G95 autofocus though, since it's brand new.
Wow, this made MY day! I own a G85 and use it with a G9. Both are superlative cameras. I totally agree with your rave. I'd also like to high five your comments that there really aren't bad cameras being made anymore. The sense of griping about the state of today's technology is misguided. Sure, there are no perfect cameras but I'm all in for appreciating what they can let us do.
Love your outlook on this. When people ask me what to buy I tell people check your price point and see what you like in your hand. You are not buying a a bad camera if you buy a modern camera and if you don't like the feel you aren't going to use it
Agree, value for money is the best kit around. Plus you can adapt anything on it. It’s a well rounded package whether you shoot video, vlogs, macro, wildlife, manual focus,...
@@tomjens2046 Because his Fuji XT3 is better for his application, so it gets the A spot. The XT3 is about twice as expensive. If he didn't have the XT3, the G85 would be his A camera.
@@tomjens2046 I could be wrong, but your quote makes more sense to me as "Not great camera for my A cam.". Yes, that is one interpretation. For context, how many people are now using the camera they'd use as their A cam if someone said, "You have 2 days to spend this $20 grand I'll give you on a camera and lens for your setup"? My guess is almost nobody. The point is that we can only do the best we can do with the resources we have. The Camera Conspiracies YT channel is quite successful and I'd venture to say that he uses the G85 more than any other camera! IOW, it is his A cam. Pretty much everything he tests gets compared to it for it's vlogging ability. Another camera guy -- Markus -- is serious when he says content is way more important than equipment. He made a short movie with a $1000 Panasonic camcorder. I'll give you this word of wisdom. If you have a G85 and think it is trash, you will not produce the quantity and quality of material that you would if you were grateful for having a G85. A negative attitude is debilitating. A positive attitude is energizing Choose energizing regardless of your current circumstances. And, yes, the Camera Conspiracies host would rather vlog with a G85 than anything Fuji outs puts out. That's makes the G85 his A cam over Fuji. Different strokes for different folks.
Bought a G9 to replace the G85 but damn they make a great pair and the size has its advantages. The price is insanely good especially compared to the insanely bad price of the G95.
I was also undecided between G85 and G9 but finally got G9 for 900$ so bought it. Do you think G85 is better then G9 besides the lower price in any category ?
@@mvhan911 That's a great price for the G9. The following key advantages of the G9 for me was 1) usable autofocus (now that I have the damn settings down) on the G9. 2) No 4K crop. 3) The WB ISO and EC button on top. Killer. I use them all the time. 4) Noticeably greater exposure latitude in G9. I use the G85 for B-roll and long interviews because G9 cuts out at 30 min. Also handheld vlogging, every ounce helps. Can't go wrong with either camera. I do love how tiny the G85 is.
Peter Paul Chato to #1 do you mean you have figured out special settings to improve the autofocus on the G9 ? And yes it’s a great camera and the G85 too I guess (I don’t have one) :)
@@mvhan911 My settings for the G9. 1) The lens make a difference. The Leica 20-60 is much better than the Pani. Not all lenses are good auto-focusers. 2) Use AFS. 3) Continuous AF ON. 4) 1-Area AF Mode. 5) Pani told me to not use wide open. 6) Metering mode, Center Weighted or Spot. The above settings work just fine for vlogging, turning the camera around and pointing it back at yourself as long as you're in the 1-Area box (a drag for sure but what can you do?). On a real shoot I use manual tap to focus which is awesome.
You don’t need to convince me Everyday Dad. I already have a G85 but I bought it when it was priced much higher. However, I still think it is a fantastic camera and like you, I don’t know why people aren’t saying much about it. I recently watched your Sony A6400 video though and I’m tempted to purchase this camera for its auto-focus capability. That would give me an awesome one, two punch so I could drive my videos out of the ballpark like you. Thanks for another great entertaining video!!
I’m new to making You Tube videos and currently use a DJI Mini 2 and an Osmo Action. I can pick the G80 up in the UK for £599 and have had it in my sights for a few weeks. I don’t have the face for vlogging 😀 but want to make cinematic videos and be able to have a greater depth of field in the shots and I think you have just made the decision way easier for me. Thanks for the fair and sensible review of this camera. I think for what I want to do it will be more than good for me.
Panasonic’s ability to be controlled by app is one of the most important features on any Panasonic camera (like the G85’s minimalist brother that I use, the GX85). But if you’re only using the Panasonic app you are missing out. The Field Monitor iOS app raises the app functionality to a new level. It’s edge-detect focus peaking function makes accurate manual focusing effortless.
@@pepeye excellent, it's just a form factor difference, but all the exact same image capabilities? I'm interested because if I can save on weight and size but have the same image quality it would work better for me to put in a backpack etc.
@@bikeninja956 Yes the sensor and the stabilization are exactly the same. Its the sensor from the GH4 and the stabilizer from the GH5. An amazing combo in a very small package.
This is a real banger for videography. It can record 4K with no limit. That's insane. Not even the Fuji X-T3 will do that. The only downside is the autofocusing. But if that's your main concern for video, you should be looking in a higher price bracket.
2022 and I just got mine. Had my eye on this camera for a while and finally pulled the trigger. I managed to get a stupid good deal at Best Buy for $499.99 ($400 off from regular price!). Bought a lens on sale and some accessories and I'll be messing around with it this weekend.
I have a G7 with a speedbooster and Sigma 18-35...man you really making me want a G85 lol. I always thought the G85 was just a G7 with IBIS and weather sealing...BUT THAT LIVE CROP. WHAT. Will the Dual IS work if i use the 14-42 kit lens that came with my G7 on the G85?
According to Panasonic live chat support, they said the kit lens off my G7 is DUAL IS compatible. Aaaaaand ordered a G85 for $440 off ebay. Thanks, dude.
I went into a pawn shop. I never buy or look in there but from now on I'm a believer. Paid 420 out the door with the lense. I couldnt even believe someone gave that up.
Hé Mr. Positive...Thanks for this wonderful portrait of the most wonderful and user friendly camera I’v ever owned. I also have the very...very...old but lovely Olympus E-1 with only 5 Mp, but what a joy to work with. Keep up the good work mate💪🍀
*Bought this Back in Feb of this year and Did a Comparison between this AND My G7 and I LOVE the Panasonic Line up, I did an Unboxing and comparison of the two. I'll be doing a Review of this Camera myself as I love that I can use different brands of 4/3 lenses. I use this as My MAIN Camera an My G7 as my Backup. *
Wow I own the g85 and I didn't know about the 4k live crop.. Haha! Thanks this was very useful . The camera has a small rubber flap on the battery door to allow a dummy battery+ continuous power source to pair nicely with the unlimited recording.
Pair this with the Panasonic Leica Summilux 15mm f1.7 Micro Four Thirds lens w/ super-sharp facial focus {initially done manually, of course} AND buttery-smooth bokeh in the background makes for an amazing intriguing product for outdoors vloggers everywhere!
@@TheEverydayDad, oh, the glorious search or the ULTIMATE camera and lens combo for vlogging...it's so difficult...so difficult...1) A LIGHT mirrorless camera body, 2) A wide-angle (17-18mil?) arm-length focal length lens (FAST, maybe 0.95-1.7f max?) w/ that beautiful blurry bokeh background we all crave, 3.) And Autofocus. Yes, autofocus (Hear me, Panasonic? What's WRONG WITH YOU??) with, Dare-I-Say-It..FACE DETECTION! (OMG!), 4.) Complete IBIS and lens stabilization (WOW!) and the ultimate in camera electronics --> 5.) An electronic VARIABLE ND filter w/ Facial Focus parity! No, we don't need 4K at 120FPS, 100mbits/sec...NO ONE wants to see one's scars, blemishes, sweat, makeup, zits, fever blisters, etc...We want clean, stabilized footage in a codec the masses can edit (That H.265 is a monster!), fast face focusing at arm's length w/ a light camera...OH, and the FLIPPY SCREEN! CAN'T FORGET THE FLIPPY SCREEN! (That's #7 for sure, EDD...Or...hmmm...maybe it's number one!!) Thoughts?
Totally agree, I just bought my second G80 for £450. It was going to be a G9 but I bought a couple of sigma primes and the G80. Superb set up for photos and video.
Nice plug! I've owned my G85 for a 1 1/2 years. I think it's a great hybrid camera, lightweight and handles well. I shoot mainly still photography. I can load up my camera and 5 lenses into my backpack and go anywhere without the weight. I am looking to upgrade now to a more Still's focused camera, but I agree with you; for the price, this is a great middle range hybrid camera. The kit lense 12-60mm is decent too. I bought a few good primes for low light. The only issue I found is the autofocus hunts a bit at times. But again the price is right on.
@@reklawj that's a tough one. The 12-60mm 3.5f is a nice kit lens, especially at 12mm. Great for landscapes. The pani 45-200mm 4-5.6 is fun. A friend lent me the Oly 75-300mm 4.8-6.3. The last two work well if there is good light lot's of noise otherwise. Recently I bought a couple primes: an Oly 25mm 1.8f and a Sigma 56mm 1.4f. I love them both. I may buy a few manual focus primes to add. I shoot a bit of everything: birds, street, portraits, macro. I can't say which one is my favorite. I am impressed with the Sigma lens. You can get three Sigmas for the price of one pro lens.
@@kustercuster Appreciate the response! I love the G85 and you cant go wrong with the kit lens. I also have the Panasonic 25mm 1.7 and 42.5mm 1.7. I am always looking to use a new lens and I will check out the Sigma's.
Great video man. I've been debating between an G85 and GH5 and think I'm leaning toward the G85. I have the G7 and LOVE it, but would like to be able to use an external recorder and the live crop. Whatever I get, I'll keep the G7 as a B camera.
Great video! As always. I am curious if you have ever tried the Panasonic FZ2500? I recently bought a used G85 and while I was looking for that came across a really great price on an FZ2500. I ended up buying both. I have been really enjoying the G85 but also the FZ. I could see it being a really nice event videography camera. Admittedly V-Log is an paid upgrade but 10 bit external 4K in a point and shoot? I know some people have reported “soft” lenses but mine is fine. It could be wider in 4K but I have found some situations where the crop is an advantage. 200mb 1080p looks really nice. I’m not sure if I’m going to keep it because of the size (it’s big for a camera with a 1 inch sensor) but I do find it intriguing.
@@TheEverydayDad heck I'd take any type of autofocus that works. Sometimes my G85 won't focus at all without manual intervention, and I'm 10 feet in front of my camera so I can't always check the focus. Any suggestions?
mannnn good video, everything that you said makes a lot of senses, now I'm regretting selling my g85 a year a go, but I will get soon a gh5 and the g85 again as a "B" camera.
I just got the Lumix G85 and getting into real estate photography and videography. Would you recommend this for real estate? If so, what would be your settings for video and photos?
As the canon camera have a 2.4x crop in their 4K video...does this camera also have a crop like that? Also can I shoot in LOG mode? As I am a Aspirant filmmaker, I want a budget good camera.... is this camera for me?
This does not have a log mode but the new g95 will have log recording. This has a slight crop in 4K but because it’s mft it already has a 2x crop over full frame. That’s why the 12mm of the kit lens is really 24mm.
you are wright here...I also use the g85 for my video's....btw, do you know if other cameras records in a higher quality as 128kb?. Whit a external mic. the g85 only record at 128kb max
If I was just starting out, absolutely yes, I would have gone this direction...this video would have sold me on this. But since I went Canon very early...like RebelXT early...you sold me on the M50. I definitely don't have the coin to jump ship into another environment but I probably would have given your points.
Closest thing to 4K live crop that the G7 has is that Snap video feature!! I never used it yet but I will when I do my interview videos coming soon. And I’ll use my 4K photo mode too
i agree 100% i have it and i love it! and the kid lens is perfect! ( i was worry about the auto focus, but i learned how to use manual focus toching the screen and thats it! perfect vlogging focus)
Outdoors content creator in me loves the weather sealing and IBIS. I am considering the G85 the XT-3 or the A6400. The XT-3 has AF and weather sealing. The G85 IBIS and weather sealing but no AF. A6400 has no IBIS or weather sealing but a flippy and great AF. Not sure.
Dang-it -- watched the video now and you are making me want to buy a *2ND* G85!!!! :-) You are right -- image quality from current digital mirrorless (and DSLR) cameras is all fantastic -- yes, each manufacturer has some uniqueness, but the capture of quality pixels has been conquered -- so it can boil down to budget and required features. Now I'd like to have a G9 or a G95 to play with.... :-) Thanks Mister Dad!
@@TheEverydayDad -- Seriously? No. It's an immutable law of the universe -- you can never have enough cameras -- says the man with 40+ film cameras and 65+ lenses (and growing!)....
Another point -- accessories for MFT, and especially Panasonic, are plentiful -- I bought a $40 3rd-party battery grip for the G85 which looks and works the same (so far) as the $$$ Panasonic one. Takes one battery, has the shutter button, front and back adjustment wheels and one Fn button. It feels light and a little plasticy (and it is not weather-proof) -- but for $40 I can now use my G85 for hours and hours on two batteries, I can shoot portrait and not twist my hand sideways -- and make my most common adjustments with the two control wheels on the battery grip.
New Subscriber - OK good video so not sure if this is better than the M50, seems like they all have good options. I do food videos so I need to shoot 4k while I making my recipes but also still shots of the finished foods. Does it do that? Like 307 Thanks Gary
I been following and buying all the crappy cameras you made videos of because i was and am on a budget. But this time it feels different. Now to learn how to use it lol.
Very compelling argument for the G85. However I'm too invested in Canon equipment at this point. I think if i made a switch it would be to the Sony A6400. Which if I'm not mistaken, you also said I should buy. LOL! Also I've been using the heck out of my Osmo Pocket and find myself rarely grabbing my Canon anymore when out and about. Thanks for another great video.
@@TheEverydayDad I completely agree about the negativity. Canon or Sony could give away free full frame cameras to everyone and there'd still be haters.
It's the greatest camera of our time :)
We want more board meetings.
At this price point I definitely agree 👍
When are you guys going to do a video together?
♫ All I want is the perfect camera... ♫
All I want is the perfect camera!
I own a g85 and didn't know about live cropping until watching your video. Holy crap it's a game changer. Great video, great camera. 👌
i have a query that it's an eight year old camera. if u buy it in 2024 will i get any problem in availing services for this model?
Thanks to your videos I just got the G85 as a birthday present to myself and I couldn't be more excited. However, I still need to learn how to use it since it has so many buttons and options. Maybe you could make a tutorial on how to take advantage of the most important features of this camera such as 4K live cropping and settings for manual video filming, it would be awesome. Cheers!
Same here
thx for spreading positivity, we need more people like you
I bought 2 of these at once! the second is lost/delayed in the mail, I'm trying to be patient. but here I am, fixating and watching this fantastic review of something I already bought. preach brother!
Great video and love your positive energy! I bought my g80 (UK based) and I’ve shot tonnes of photos and videos with it and really enjoy it.
Just used 4k live crop for some product shots for an upcoming video. I have had a g85 since it came out love this camera. The Panasonic app is amazing! There are so many reasons to love it even more at the current price.
Yeah for the $500 I spent it’s basically a steal of a camera 😁
hello. great video. can I please ask - what are you using for audio when you're doing the vlogging in the forest? I see a lav, but what it is it? And, do you have the levels on the camera all the way down, or s it working stock? last question if you don't mind - does it have a limiter on the audio? I do guitar demos, and it could get really loud - will it limit the audio, so it doesn't clip? I have a canon (XA20), and the audio is exceptional, and limits perfectly. thanks!
Yo Tone King!! I didn't know you watched TEDD too! Rock on!
Also, I just rewatched the video and it looks like TEDD is using the RODE VideoMic Go, which is a wireless mic that you connect to your camera and then can clip onto your shirt or plug into a lav. I just got the Panasonic G85 myself thanks to TEDD's vids, and there is a limiter for the audio as well as mic gain controls. I haven't tested to see how loud I can push it, so I don't know if it'll clip if doing guitar demos. If all else fails, just get a ZOOM H1n and either plug it into the camera or sync the audio in post. I know for sure the ZOOMs can be pushed and heck, I was able to record an Uli John Roth concert almost up front many moons back and it sounded great!
TheAndySan hey buddy. Thanks! Yeah, he has a good channel! Just got 2 G85s myself
Just bought mine about a month ago and I couldn't be happier! Totally agree, best price for all the features!
I absolutely agree, I can’t think of anything else that comes close 👍
A week ago i sold my a6300 and bought g85 ( g80 here in europe ) . Stabilization is amazing. Makes a massive difference. I can shoot handheld with not stabilized lens and get very good results . With A6300 even on gimball it was difficult. Good video !
That’s awesome I’m glad it’s working out for you 😁👍
To be honest , before watching one of your reviews i didnt even now that g85 exists , so all thanks to you. Thanks a lot.
You're who I come to when I've watched a bunch of technical/clinical videos about the G85 but what I really want is HYPE!
I got hype AND you brought up some features about the camera that others didn't really talk about, like the live cropping and Panasonic's app.
Thanks!
Thanks for this. Your enthusiasm helped me decide in 2023. :)
I just bought one last week, I'm just testing everything to this day. I had a Canon 60d for 9 years and it's a little weird adjusting to this new, gorgeous camera 😏
I picked this up after watching some of your other G85 videos and took it on a trip to Alaska last week. I was super impressed with photo and video especially. Thanks for breaking things down for a regular Joe can understand what they should look for.
Well thanks for the comment! That’s the whole point of the channel 😁👍
I appreciate how positive and rational this review is! Thanks!!
I’ve been thinking about getting it and it’s on my Amazon wish list! It’s getting crazier shooting my channel videos on my iPhone 📲 XS
Good video and I do think the Panasonic G cameras are under rated. I had a buddy turn me onto them a couple years ago and I’m super happy. Shared this vid with a friend who is looking for her first RUclips vlog camera.
Nice! I hope it’s able to help out 😁👍
Love the Canon burn (regards to the Live Crop) LOL!! Such high-energy, enthusiastic videos!! Awesome, thanks for making these.
I appreciate your recommendation because it’s almost time for me to upload to a 4K camera.
It’s definitely a good one to use 😁👍
Hey dad amazing video you are the only "good" ytber that still takes a look at the g85 thanks man
Can we see a M50vsG85 video that could be very interesting!!
I agree
how do you not have like 1 mil, all of your videos are so good and really help all of us! Thanks!
Well thanks so much, I’m glad it’s able to help 😁👍
Hey there, you and James Popsys got me to buy this little gem and I'm loving it! It's such a capable camera full of functions that are available only in much more expensive models in the competition. I love my Panny g85!
As a recent G85 owner, I think I can tell you why the G85 is not king of the vlogging market. It's the (very) poor continuous autofocus in video mode. You mention it several times, but I think you are downplaying by a lot just how big a problem it can be. In my experience, it's so bad that it makes the camera almost unusable. I really wish I'd spent my hard-earned money on something else.
Your solution - to simply set the focus by touching the screen - doesn't work for me for two reasons. The main reason is that I don't want to film only myself while shooting video. I routinely turn the camera around and take video of scenery, objects, and other people around me. And then I reverse the camera and aim it at my face again. And for that, continuous autofocus is essential, and it simply doesn't work on the G85. It won't focus on anything by itself no matter what magic combination of settings I use. And if, by some miracle, it does achieve focus correctly, the background pulses in and out of focus, and it is very distracting and annoying.
The other reason your technique doesn't work very well is that when I hold the camera away from me far enough to achieve a wide field of view, I can't reach the screen to touch it. It's too far away. I have to bring the camera closer to my face so that I can touch it and lock focus. But then I hold the camera farther away, and the focus becomes slightly off. And even if it works, it's hard to tell that it worked. I'm generally shooting in bright daylight, and I can't make out what is on the screen anyway. I can't tell if it locked focus or not.
I've seen other G85 users try all kinds of techniques. They use long pointers to touch the screen or they attach a remote shutter so that they can trigger the focus. In my case, I've had to come up with a complicated system (employing back button focus) to use multiple focus modes. I'm essentially switching between multiple focusing modes depending on whether I'm pointing the G85 towards my face or away from me. And out in the busy real world, that isn't easy to do, and I constantly forget to do it or I do it wrong or it takes forever. I end up thinking about the focusing, worrying about it, and managing it constantly, and it drives me crazy.
All I can think about is how nice it would be to have a camera that would simply automatically focus on whatever it is pointed at. I don't care that much about image quality or 4K or fancy features or any of that. I just want a camera that will focus on its own. And the G85 is not that camera.
I agree with all the positive points you made about the G85 - particularly at its price point. That's why I bought it. And I thought the autofocus would be just good enough or that I could come up with a technique to work around it, but that hasn't turned out to be true for me.
Yep i sold mine for those reasons autofocus is so so bad on the G85... it really messed up so much of my footage where i dont carry a external monitor and am out and about and cant continieusly watch the autofocus, interviews, vlogs etc... so many messed up hours and footage.. i sold it with love.
@@RebelChumps I see the same fate for my G85. I imagine I will sell it soon (with love, as you said) and look for something else. I have no idea what could replace it, though. There still isn't a low-budget/mid-range camera on the market that ticks all the boxes on my wish-list. And my wish-list is a pretty simple one, I think: good IBIS, good continuous autofocus, a flip-out screen, a mic jack, and relatively small and lightweight.
I looked long and hard at the A6400, and it seemed suitable except for the lack of IBIS. The A6500 does have IBIS, but it lacks a flip-out screen (and the IBIS doesn't seem particularly good). And it goes on and on. No camera on the market seems to fit my rather simple requirements. That surprises me.
It's crazy, but I find myself reaching for my GoPro every time I go outside now. The G85 just stays in its bag. The GoPro has worse image quality and worse everything compared to the G85, but at least I don't have to worry about whether things are in focus or not.
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You could just learn to manually focus the lens. I could perform everything you just mentioned quickly and smoothly with just manual focus
Wondering if in the bright day exteriors and with the wide angle focal length typical in a vlogging situation you could just set a hyperfocal distance and forget it.
I bought the G85 after your first video. I am getting back into photography, and I have to say you didn't steer me wrong. I have shot some amazing images that require very little post editing. I also shot some 4K video and yes, it too is pretty darn good. Need to play with the live cropping though.
Wish you would have compared it to the output of the A6400, but Sony has some great glass which would have an impact.
In a year or two this will be my B-roll camera, but for now it is doing a pretty fine job as my primary.
Thank you for your insight, enthusiasm, and ideas. Keep doing what you are doing...we appreciate it.
Wouldn't the 6300 be a better comparison because they are closer in price?
@@raizt1596 If you are comparing price, yes, I would agree. If you are comparing features and functionality as I am, then no.
@@dougzauha You have to compare price. The Panasonic G95 is closer in price to the Sony A6400. I haven't seen many reviews on the G95 autofocus though, since it's brand new.
Wow, this made MY day! I own a G85 and use it with a G9. Both are superlative cameras. I totally agree with your rave. I'd also like to high five your comments that there really aren't bad cameras being made anymore. The sense of griping about the state of today's technology is misguided. Sure, there are no perfect cameras but I'm all in for appreciating what they can let us do.
Yeah there really aren’t any bad modern cameras and all the negativity makes the environment as a whole worse 👍
Just picked up a g85 used on ebay. Upgrading from a g7. I need the ibis!
Love your outlook on this. When people ask me what to buy I tell people check your price point and see what you like in your hand. You are not buying a a bad camera if you buy a modern camera and if you don't like the feel you aren't going to use it
I have G80/85 with 12-60 kit lens. Stabilization is amazing!
Agree, value for money is the best kit around. Plus you can adapt anything on it. It’s a well rounded package whether you shoot video, vlogs, macro, wildlife, manual focus,...
Totally agree 😁👍
Everything is awesome! Everything is cool when you're part of a team! Everything is awesome...
I love that movie! 👍
It's a great camera for a b cam, and with a speedbooster you can use all your EF glass! I love my XT3, but my g85 still gets used quite a bit!
Yeah that’s a great use for it 😁👍
why not for A cam?
@@tomjens2046 Because his Fuji XT3 is better for his application, so it gets the A spot. The XT3 is about twice as expensive. If he didn't have the XT3, the G85 would be his A camera.
@@wellnesspathforme6236 That message sounded like a general statement for B cams. Not "great camera for MY b cam".
@@tomjens2046 I could be wrong, but your quote makes more sense to me as "Not great camera for my A cam.". Yes, that is one interpretation. For context, how many people are now using the camera they'd use as their A cam if someone said, "You have 2 days to spend this $20 grand I'll give you on a camera and lens for your setup"?
My guess is almost nobody.
The point is that we can only do the best we can do with the resources we have. The Camera Conspiracies YT channel is quite successful and I'd venture to say that he uses the G85 more than any other camera!
IOW, it is his A cam. Pretty much everything he tests gets compared to it for it's vlogging ability.
Another camera guy -- Markus -- is serious when he says content is way more important than equipment. He made a short movie with a $1000 Panasonic camcorder.
I'll give you this word of wisdom. If you have a G85 and think it is trash, you will not produce the quantity and quality of material that you would if you were grateful for having a G85.
A negative attitude is debilitating. A positive attitude is energizing
Choose energizing regardless of your current circumstances.
And, yes, the Camera Conspiracies host would rather vlog with a G85 than anything Fuji outs puts out. That's makes the G85 his A cam over Fuji. Different strokes for different folks.
i've been looking into cameras recently and this video has got my hyped for this purchase thank you!!
I bought one based on your last video along with the Lumix 8-18mm lens. It's so good. I love it. Thanks for making my purchase choice easy.
Nice! I’m glad it’s working out for you 👍
Can't wait for the G95 review! Especially in comparison to the a6400!
Definitely agree. Bought mine just this month
Fantastic! I hope it’s working out for you 😁
Ya your right. Been hyper researching and dam this thing has what ya need! I’m sold.
Thanks for the great review! Just bought a G85 for my channel and excited to upgrade from my iphone haha!
Bought a G9 to replace the G85 but damn they make a great pair and the size has its advantages. The price is insanely good especially compared to the insanely bad price of the G95.
I was also undecided between G85 and G9 but finally got G9 for 900$ so bought it. Do you think G85 is better then G9 besides the lower price in any category ?
@@mvhan911 That's a great price for the G9. The following key advantages of the G9 for me was 1) usable autofocus (now that I have the damn settings down) on the G9. 2) No 4K crop. 3) The WB ISO and EC button on top. Killer. I use them all the time. 4) Noticeably greater exposure latitude in G9. I use the G85 for B-roll and long interviews because G9 cuts out at 30 min. Also handheld vlogging, every ounce helps. Can't go wrong with either camera. I do love how tiny the G85 is.
Yeah both of those cameras are absolutely fantastic. Its hard to argue against either the G85 or G9.
Peter Paul Chato to #1 do you mean you have figured out special settings to improve the autofocus on the G9 ?
And yes it’s a great camera and the G85 too I guess (I don’t have one) :)
@@mvhan911 My settings for the G9. 1) The lens make a difference. The Leica 20-60 is much better than the Pani. Not all lenses are good auto-focusers. 2) Use AFS. 3) Continuous AF ON. 4) 1-Area AF Mode. 5) Pani told me to not use wide open. 6) Metering mode, Center Weighted or Spot. The above settings work just fine for vlogging, turning the camera around and pointing it back at yourself as long as you're in the 1-Area box (a drag for sure but what can you do?). On a real shoot I use manual tap to focus which is awesome.
You don’t need to convince me Everyday Dad. I already have a G85 but I bought it when it was priced much higher. However, I still think it is a fantastic camera and like you, I don’t know why people aren’t saying much about it. I recently watched your Sony A6400 video though and I’m tempted to purchase this camera for its auto-focus capability. That would give me an awesome one, two punch so I could drive my videos out of the ballpark like you. Thanks for another great entertaining video!!
That’s my current video setup. The g85 for 4K live cropping and if I need to hand hold a camera and the A6400 for rock solid autofocus.
I’m new to making You Tube videos and currently use a DJI Mini 2 and an Osmo Action. I can pick the G80 up in the UK for £599 and have had it in my sights for a few weeks. I don’t have the face for vlogging 😀 but want to make cinematic videos and be able to have a greater depth of field in the shots and I think you have just made the decision way easier for me. Thanks for the fair and sensible review of this camera. I think for what I want to do it will be more than good for me.
Can you explain more about the 4K live cropping ? I do not know how to use this feature :(
Just bought it. Awesome so far
Nice! It’s such a great camera 😁👍
Panasonic’s ability to be controlled by app is one of the most important features on any Panasonic camera (like the G85’s minimalist brother that I use, the GX85). But if you’re only using the Panasonic app you are missing out. The Field Monitor iOS app raises the app functionality to a new level. It’s edge-detect focus peaking function makes accurate manual focusing effortless.
is there any difference between this and the GX85 besides body size?
The GX85 is slightly smaller with a rangefinder-ish styling. But both are relatively small.
@@pepeye excellent, it's just a form factor difference, but all the exact same image capabilities? I'm interested because if I can save on weight and size but have the same image quality it would work better for me to put in a backpack etc.
@@bikeninja956 Yes the sensor and the stabilization are exactly the same. Its the sensor from the GH4 and the stabilizer from the GH5. An amazing combo in a very small package.
@@pepeye very cool. Thanks!
This is a real banger for videography. It can record 4K with no limit. That's insane. Not even the Fuji X-T3 will do that. The only downside is the autofocusing. But if that's your main concern for video, you should be looking in a higher price bracket.
2022 and I just got mine. Had my eye on this camera for a while and finally pulled the trigger. I managed to get a stupid good deal at Best Buy for $499.99 ($400 off from regular price!). Bought a lens on sale and some accessories and I'll be messing around with it this weekend.
Hey 4k the best for me and nice video for the panasonic g85😀😀😀
I have a G7 with a speedbooster and Sigma 18-35...man you really making me want a G85 lol. I always thought the G85 was just a G7 with IBIS and weather sealing...BUT THAT LIVE CROP. WHAT. Will the Dual IS work if i use the 14-42 kit lens that came with my G7 on the G85?
I don’t know if the 14-42 is a dual is lens, the 12-60 kit lens is but check the lens to see if it says dual is compatible.
According to Panasonic live chat support, they said the kit lens off my G7 is DUAL IS compatible. Aaaaaand ordered a G85 for $440 off ebay. Thanks, dude.
You're a good salesman, Gary. You make make want a G85 😃. That 4k live crop could change up my final food glamour shot. Thanks for sharing.
loving that positivity
I use the G85 as a B camera and a S1 as my A camera. The G85 has awesome stabilization and video quality!
Yeah the G85 is an amazing camera for the price. I absolutely use one in almost every single video I make.
I went into a pawn shop. I never buy or look in there but from now on I'm a believer. Paid 420 out the door with the lense. I couldnt even believe someone gave that up.
Bought the camera 1 week ago and I'm amazed about how powerful this camera is. Still images are great didn't expect that to be honest.
Hé Mr. Positive...Thanks for this wonderful portrait of the most wonderful and user friendly camera I’v ever owned. I also have the very...very...old but lovely Olympus E-1 with only 5 Mp, but what a joy to work with. Keep up the good work mate💪🍀
Well thanks so much! And it’s less about the camera then it is the person using it 👍
*Bought this Back in Feb of this year and Did a Comparison between this AND My G7 and I LOVE the Panasonic Line up, I did an Unboxing and comparison of the two. I'll be doing a Review of this Camera myself as I love that I can use different brands of 4/3 lenses. I use this as My MAIN Camera an My G7 as my Backup. *
Wow I own the g85 and I didn't know about the 4k live crop.. Haha! Thanks this was very useful . The camera has a small rubber flap on the battery door to allow a dummy battery+ continuous power source to pair nicely with the unlimited recording.
Yeah it’s just a really well thought out and designed camera 👍
Pair this with the Panasonic Leica Summilux 15mm f1.7 Micro Four Thirds lens w/ super-sharp facial focus {initially done manually, of course} AND buttery-smooth bokeh in the background makes for an amazing intriguing product for outdoors vloggers everywhere!
I’ll have to try that lens out 😁👍
@@TheEverydayDad, oh, the glorious search or the ULTIMATE camera and lens combo for vlogging...it's so difficult...so difficult...1) A LIGHT mirrorless camera body, 2) A wide-angle (17-18mil?) arm-length focal length lens (FAST, maybe 0.95-1.7f max?) w/ that beautiful blurry bokeh background we all crave, 3.) And Autofocus. Yes, autofocus (Hear me, Panasonic? What's WRONG WITH YOU??) with, Dare-I-Say-It..FACE DETECTION! (OMG!), 4.) Complete IBIS and lens stabilization (WOW!) and the ultimate in camera electronics --> 5.) An electronic VARIABLE ND filter w/ Facial Focus parity!
No, we don't need 4K at 120FPS, 100mbits/sec...NO ONE wants to see one's scars, blemishes, sweat, makeup, zits, fever blisters, etc...We want clean, stabilized footage in a codec the masses can edit (That H.265 is a monster!), fast face focusing at arm's length w/ a light camera...OH, and the FLIPPY SCREEN! CAN'T FORGET THE FLIPPY SCREEN! (That's #7 for sure, EDD...Or...hmmm...maybe it's number one!!)
Thoughts?
@@suburbancritters980 thoughts? Well you just said what everyone is thinking and has been for the past few years.
I would love to see your take on a6400 vs G85 for RUclips, vlogging and possibly shooting kids sports if you want to throw that in too.
Totally agree, I just bought my second G80 for £450. It was going to be a G9 but I bought a couple of sigma primes and the G80. Superb set up for photos and video.
The g9 is also amazing, I don’t think Panasonic makes a bad camera 😁
Great video, i use mine to shoot my church's night services with the Panasonic 42.5mm lens.
That’s awesome!
Great video, I hope people on a budget will listen to this advise
My favorite cameras are the ones I got for the best deals 😁👍
Nice plug! I've owned my G85 for a 1 1/2 years. I think it's a great hybrid camera, lightweight and handles well. I shoot mainly still photography. I can load up my camera and 5 lenses into my backpack and go anywhere without the weight. I am looking to upgrade now to a more Still's focused camera, but I agree with you; for the price, this is a great middle range hybrid camera. The kit lense 12-60mm is decent too. I bought a few good primes for low light. The only issue I found is the autofocus hunts a bit at times. But again the price is right on.
What is your favorite lens to use with the G85?
@@reklawj that's a tough one. The 12-60mm 3.5f is a nice kit lens, especially at 12mm. Great for landscapes. The pani 45-200mm 4-5.6 is fun. A friend lent me the Oly 75-300mm 4.8-6.3. The last two work well if there is good light lot's of noise otherwise. Recently I bought a couple primes: an Oly 25mm 1.8f and a Sigma 56mm 1.4f. I love them both. I may buy a few manual focus primes to add. I shoot a bit of everything: birds, street, portraits, macro. I can't say which one is my favorite. I am impressed with the Sigma lens. You can get three Sigmas for the price of one pro lens.
@@kustercuster Appreciate the response! I love the G85 and you cant go wrong with the kit lens. I also have the Panasonic 25mm 1.7 and 42.5mm 1.7. I am always looking to use a new lens and I will check out the Sigma's.
It's really great especially for vlogging. I really don't know what I was doing with fucking canon
Great video man.
I've been debating between an G85 and GH5 and think I'm leaning toward the G85.
I have the G7 and LOVE it, but would like to be able to use an external recorder and the live crop.
Whatever I get, I'll keep the G7 as a B camera.
Both are fantastic cameras, I think the GH5 might be the current best camera ever made 👍
@@TheEverydayDad For sure!
If money weren't an issue I'd definitely get the GH5... But money is an issue. 😂
May grab this to pair up with my GX85 too waiting for a great priced used unit...
Great video! As always. I am curious if you have ever tried the Panasonic FZ2500? I recently bought a used G85 and while I was looking for that came across a really great price on an FZ2500. I ended up buying both. I have been really enjoying the G85 but also the FZ. I could see it being a really nice event videography camera. Admittedly V-Log is an paid upgrade but 10 bit external 4K in a point and shoot? I know some people have reported “soft” lenses but mine is fine. It could be wider in 4K but I have found some situations where the crop is an advantage. 200mb 1080p looks really nice. I’m not sure if I’m going to keep it because of the size (it’s big for a camera with a 1 inch sensor) but I do find it intriguing.
Just picked one up on face book for $500! Cannot wait to try it out....
Nice! Its a really awesome camera!
Love this camera, the ergonomics and handling are the best out of anything I've used so far, and for so little money too
I definitely agree, for the price I don’t think anything else comes close 👍
JENNY OSU
Been using for 2 years! Everything is excellent but if it with phase detect autofocus, it with be perfect!
Tell me about it, I really wish they would get some phase detection going.
The Everyday Dad Now, to get the most accurate focus, i have to use manual focus 😭
@@TheEverydayDad heck I'd take any type of autofocus that works. Sometimes my G85 won't focus at all without manual intervention, and I'm 10 feet in front of my camera so I can't always check the focus. Any suggestions?
mannnn good video, everything that you said makes a lot of senses, now I'm regretting selling my g85 a year a go, but I will get soon a gh5 and the g85 again as a "B" camera.
I’m currently going through that same struggle 👍
As always, a very good review video!
oh quick question tho, how long the battery last when filming 4k? thanks :)
I might have missed it if the info was given but what lens do you use in your studio shots with the g85?
Oh wait I think you mention later it’s the kit 12-60, indoors studio, it looks GREAT!
this is a compliment comment on your thumbnail graphics! It looks good lately!
Thanks so much! I’m really happy with how they are turning out 😁👍
I just got the Lumix G85 and getting into real estate photography and videography. Would you recommend this for real estate? If so, what would be your settings for video and photos?
As the canon camera have a 2.4x crop in their 4K video...does this camera also have a crop like that? Also can I shoot in LOG mode? As I am a Aspirant filmmaker, I want a budget good camera.... is this camera for me?
This does not have a log mode but the new g95 will have log recording. This has a slight crop in 4K but because it’s mft it already has a 2x crop over full frame. That’s why the 12mm of the kit lens is really 24mm.
@@TheEverydayDad Thanks, but being a filmmaker can yoi please suggest a budget camera? Please.
How are you keeping the G85 from backfocusing indoors? I have one and that's my only gripe with it.
You mentioned that you shoot on cine d . Do you still grade it? Would love to know you shooting settings.
you are wright here...I also use the g85 for my video's....btw, do you know if other cameras records in a higher quality as 128kb?. Whit a external mic. the g85 only record at 128kb max
Would this be any good for wildlife photography for a first time camera buyer?
You might have just sold me. Would love to feel one in my hand, but camera stores do not exist in Oregon these days.
Yeah they are definitely a dieing breed 😭
Loved my g85, now I use the GH5 and vlog with a Laowa 7.5mm f2 lens
In terms of preamps, between the g7 and m50 which is better?
I use GH5 but I agree G85 (G8) is wonderful camera. It”s a Panasonic’s one of the most underestimated camera.
I completely agree 👍
Thanks for the info. I'm trying to buy one now on ebay! I subbed!
If I was just starting out, absolutely yes, I would have gone this direction...this video would have sold me on this. But since I went Canon very early...like RebelXT early...you sold me on the M50. I definitely don't have the coin to jump ship into another environment but I probably would have given your points.
Closest thing to 4K live crop that the G7 has is that Snap video feature!! I never used it yet but I will when I do my interview videos coming soon. And I’ll use my 4K photo mode too
This is my cam for my professional work.
Nice! I hope it’s working out for you 😁👍
i agree 100% i have it and i love it! and the kid lens is perfect! ( i was worry about the auto focus, but i learned how to use manual focus toching the screen and thats it! perfect vlogging focus)
Outdoors content creator in me loves the weather sealing and IBIS. I am considering the G85 the XT-3 or the A6400. The XT-3 has AF and weather sealing. The G85 IBIS and weather sealing but no AF. A6400 has no IBIS or weather sealing but a flippy and great AF. Not sure.
The A6400 does have weather sealing but most of the lenses do not. And all of those cameras you mentioned are great 😁
That's the problem. They're all fine. I don't know. LOL!
I love My G7....Just bought a 25mm lens for it also, I'll be needing some Advice on a Good Camera Backpack.
I just bought one from Best Buy so I’m not sure I’m the best person to ask 🤣
@@TheEverydayDad fair enough
I am planning to buy one for dual camera streaming. I happy with my gh5 now I need a 2nd camera.
I love the darn GH5, probably the single best video camera ever made 🤯
im sold im buying one right now
Dang-it -- watched the video now and you are making me want to buy a *2ND* G85!!!! :-) You are right -- image quality from current digital mirrorless (and DSLR) cameras is all fantastic -- yes, each manufacturer has some uniqueness, but the capture of quality pixels has been conquered -- so it can boil down to budget and required features. Now I'd like to have a G9 or a G95 to play with.... :-) Thanks Mister Dad!
Ha! Can you ever have enough cameras 🤣
@@TheEverydayDad -- Seriously? No. It's an immutable law of the universe -- you can never have enough cameras -- says the man with 40+ film cameras and 65+ lenses (and growing!)....
Another point -- accessories for MFT, and especially Panasonic, are plentiful -- I bought a $40 3rd-party battery grip for the G85 which looks and works the same (so far) as the $$$ Panasonic one. Takes one battery, has the shutter button, front and back adjustment wheels and one Fn button. It feels light and a little plasticy (and it is not weather-proof) -- but for $40 I can now use my G85 for hours and hours on two batteries, I can shoot portrait and not twist my hand sideways -- and make my most common adjustments with the two control wheels on the battery grip.
Gonna buy this camera at the first moment I'm able to. Have a Panasonic G6 but it's time to move up.
It’s a really great little camera 👍
its still really good i bought one and waiting to get it
Interesting, I watched your previous G85 video just yesterday..
Glad I could time them properly 🤣
New Subscriber - OK good video so not sure if this is better than the M50, seems like they all have good options. I do food videos so I need to shoot 4k while I making my recipes but also still shots of the finished foods. Does it do that? Like 307 Thanks Gary
Yay! You came out with the video!
Hurray!
I been following and buying all the crappy cameras you made videos of because i was and am on a budget. But this time it feels different. Now to learn how to use it lol.
Hey thanks for the video!
g85 or m50 for recording video?
G85
Very compelling argument for the G85. However I'm too invested in Canon equipment at this point. I think if i made a switch it would be to the Sony A6400. Which if I'm not mistaken, you also said I should buy. LOL! Also I've been using the heck out of my Osmo Pocket and find myself rarely grabbing my Canon anymore when out and about. Thanks for another great video.
Yeah the you should buy series is more to combat all the negativity I see online. It’s really hard to find a bad camera these days 👍
@@TheEverydayDad I completely agree about the negativity. Canon or Sony could give away free full frame cameras to everyone and there'd still be haters.