This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen yet, as a massive Em fan (and someone who was pretty disappointed by this album) - I couldn’t exactly pinpoint why the satire wasn’t working anymore. Your quote about “him not being introspective and thoughtful enough to understand why” is exactly what I was trying to conclude. I think the album is an enjoyable, sonically-sound listen, but the concept of it was really badly executed :/. This review is excellent
Eminem is one of the most introspective rappers in all of hip hop. The introspection Jay Z did on 4:44, is stuff that em has been doing his entire career. He's just more cerebral with it this time.
@@STARK0181 Spoken like someone who doesn't listen to and/or isn't well versed in hip hip whatsoever. Eminem is literally one of the least introspective lyricists in hip hop. Guys like Aesop Rock, Busdriver, illogic (Not the same rapper as Logic), Rap Ferreira, Billy Woods, Quelle Chris, Greydon Square, Elucid, Hemlock Ernst, Open Mike Eagle, Stranded, Nostrum grocers, Ruby Yacht, etc. are some of the most introspective guys in hip hop. Eminem is probably near the bottom of the list when it comes to introspection, conceptual writing ability, etc.
@@musicthemusicalperson4316 Cleaning out my closet, rock bottom, Brain damage, When I'm gone, Careful what you wish for,Say Goodbye to Hollywood, Talking 2 myself, Going through changes, Stepping stone, Castle, Arose, beautiful and others are all deeply self reflective and introspection tracks of em looking deep in the mirror. Em has worn his flaws, mistakes, and insecurities on sleeve his entire career and you have to be a very introspective and self aware person to do that. Bottom of the list would be guys like Tekashi 69 or whoever.
@@musicthemusicalperson4316 Conceptual writing ability is hard disagree too. Stan is literally a word in the dictionary all from a character Em conceptualised. The slim shady character is one of the most memorable alter egos in music also conceptualised by Em
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks MMLP2 was underrated. I will agree for the most part with the review, except I do have trouble figuring out on a good chunk of the album when Slim or Em are supposed to be the rapper.
i am happy you mentioned how underrated the MMLP2 is. it was grimy, fun, energectic, and picked up perfectly where Recovery left off. I feel like he had a good sense of direction with his albums all the way up until that point. After MMLP2 i feel like that album almost was meant to be his last. Because afterwards, as much as I enjoy Kamikae and Music To Be Murdered By. He was more in a reaction stand point to the audience, as oppose to just dropping what he wanted to drop like how he did from SSLP to MMLP2.
saw a playlist of “The Death of Slim Shady but every song he mentions trans people is replaced with Auntie Diaries” its probably a better album than actual tdoss
I truely do believe he’s done with shady, I hope so, he wanted shady gone long ago but his fans kept begging for it, so he tried to bring shady back on mmlp2, kamikaze, and MTBMB, but he’s at the point where he’s tired of slim, so he’s gonna kill him and just do what he wants, he’s about as tired if not more tired of shady than he was in 2006 with when I’m gone, shady gave him a career, but also cost him everything, and I think he just wants shady dead so he can move on, but give the fans begging just one last taste of shady before his departure
I didn't expect you to bring up Folding Ideas' "I Don't Know James Rolfe" in this review, but I think you bring it up well here, mainly for the connecting subtext and self-awareness in criticizing that person with the persona.
Question for the audience: Who are some rappers/artists who DO do a good job of communicating the nuances of why someome like the Slim Shady character and right wing philosophies in general are harmful?
Eminem has essentially become the U2 of rap to me (I know that comparison makes absolutely no sense on the surface, but hear me out). When I say that, I mean specifically in terms of 1) acts that have such impressive early discographies that remain iconic...........but have since gone on to have tragically lengthy losing streaks of mediocre-at-best releases spanning over a decade with no signs of resurgence in quality..............and 2) acts that used to be hungry, adventurous and experimental but, after enduring backlash and scrutiny among fans, have regressed into pandering to fan service mode and playing it way too conservatively ever since: with every U2 album since "All That You Can't Leave Behind" essentially being a U2 fan service release and every Eminem album since "The Eminem Show" being an Eminem fan service album. So it isn't the least bit surprising Eminem has TONS of loyal, defensive fans defending this record as some misunderstood stroke of genius because, again, he's serving the fan service red meat................but as someone who has never been an Eminem fangirl yet appreciates his earlier catalog on its own merit, I just don't find anything he has released since "The Marshall Mathers LP 2" interesting in the slightest. Been there, heard that.
@@MACMAMI Eminem sounds hungrier in this album than he has in years, and it lacks the vibe of “whining” than kamikaze had to imo with better beats and lyricism than kamikaze too
While I appreciate the "Hey, Drake. They're not slow" joke. Let me be very clear in saying that Eminem's audience, particularly the standard portion of his fanbase (Not necessarily the regular fans of hip hop who may intersect) and the general hip hop culture audience are two COMPLETELY different demographics and shouldn't be conflated. There may be some general intersection/overlap, but the overall demographic of hip hop fans that genuinely participate in hip hop culture are not slow, whereas some portions of Eminem fans......let's just say theyre not always the sharpest or most culturally aware of/participatory in hip hop/black culture. Lol.
@@musicthemusicalperson4316 lmfao whatever helps u sleep. That comment is proof? It’s not proof at ALL! I’m not a fan of Eminem at all, he’s a cringe 50 year old trying to be cool. Now your whole argument is thrown out the window. Don’t let the likes fool u. In a neutral environment anybody sane would agree with me. Hip hop “culture” has, without a shadow of doubt, brought more destruction to the world than good. Keep being naive.
@@joshrentos216 1. The amount of people who agree with something doesn't make it accurate. This is an appeal to popularity fallacy. 2. You have brought absolutely nothing up but vague racist notions and allusions. Actually state something specific. 3. I've had this conversations thousands of times with people from your perspective. It's 100% wrong, and people who hold your perspective are usually operating on off pure ignorance and lack of proper sociological, economic, and historical analysis. Anyone who's dumb enough to think that such a reductive and simplistic perspective is rational is operating off of pure ignorance. We literally have a mountain of peer reviewed data showing that music does not create negative outcomes. Any supposed negative outcomes are a result of any material circumstances or factors that pre-exist any genre of music. Literally any single "problem" you try to bring up ultimately has nothing to do with music, but ultimately can be traced back to the socioeconomic conditions and systemic issues like economic inequality, lack of opportunities, and systemic racism. So, yes. You are 100% a perfect example of exactly what I described.
I remember when you looked like a teenager when I first discovered you I think back in the mid 2010’s maybe. Crazy how you’re a grown ass man now. Haven’t seen your vids since those days lol.
Holy fuck the Dan Olson/AVGN comparison is so on point. Excellent excellent analysis. Genuinely inspirational to the kind of content I’d like to make. Rock on Mark
So you talked a little bit about that Daniel called Olson in this review, but I think it would be most interesting if you made some reviews in which you talked about those two other Daniels Romano and Bejar, as I for one would really like a Canadian music man's perspective on those particular Daniels. Aside from that I can only say that this was an excellent analysis of the Marshalll.
I gotta say, I don't think people realize that artist do not make music for people. "Fans" tend to think that musical artist owe them an experience, but they do not. These are just people expressing THEMSELVES, not others. That is what artist do, and the best ones reach people. If anything Eminem is cursed by his own legacy, because the public talks about him like they own his creative output with their expectations.
I will say, no matter the quality, this is a pretty ambitious album solely because of all the AI voices Eminem uses. He’s pretty much telling the dipshits who steal other people’s work, “hey stupid, this is how you use AI as a creative tool.”
As a black man listening to this Eminem album, who was there for sslp, I'm sorry there's nothing here for me dawg. It all just feels outdated, tired, frustrating, and lacking introspection... Or even a valuable retrospect on his career. Every song on here is a not as good version of something he already did, and i actually feel like he disses candace and Caitlyn because he sees himself in them, both career victims with a weird edgy fan ase. A tired trope they can take off in the comfort of their own homes and rake in the dollars, no matter how much actual damage they do to society in the process. His stories of shit that happened to him 30+ yrs ago, yeah em, we sont feel that, we're going through actual shit RIGHT NOW. Hes the most impressive rhymer, but hes none of the soul of KENDRICK or NAS, or the introspective artistry and songmaking. Thats why hes not the greatest, do you understand now white America? It's not "reverse" racism. Hes not saying ANYTHING OF VALUE!
I personally disagree. I think this album is the most realistic and relatable depiction of introspection and personal growth that I've ever heard from any artist. I think even though people know this album is a concept they're still joy judging the album in context to the story that's being told.
I don't need nor care for Eminem to be introspective about topics he doesn't personally relate to. Eminem does a good job of talking about his story, his struggles, inspirations, come-up, how he feels about stuff, etc. Most black rappers that go thru that shit don't care to rap about the shit that Kendrick or Nas does, everybody has their own lane and what they choose to express as an artist. They make music for themselves before anyone else, and this album was very personal. But to say there isn't introspection on his career/life is... blantantly untrue. That's practically what the whole album is about. Its a story about Slim kidnapping and taking control of Em, forcing him to essentially try to cancel himself, which is the subject matter of the songs until Guilty Conscience 2. When Em, gets free he critiques Slim on all the obvious, try hard, ridiculously overly offensive bars/statements. As well as his entire history of beefs, insults, his drug issue that kept him from growing up and properly raising his kids, etc. The Slim persona fires back and says he was just as complicit in it as he was, that he was just a more exaggerated version of how he really felt, and that he wouldn't be anywhere without him. Him killing the persona, was him moving past that era of his life in full, no matter how many fans ask for the old version of him. That's just scratching the surface, as he delves deeper into the concept on the album itself. Houdini is the only song that I would call another version of an older song of his. Other songs had callbacks, but had a lot of new pockets for his flows and even hooks. Nas and Kendrick both respect and are fans of Em for a reason bruh. You may not see it, because you lack the literacy, but he is definitely saying something of value.
Everyone needs to admit nobody gave af about “content” before TPAB, so please stop with the “he’s not saying anything” argument. People put Wayne and many others who have zero messages in the goat category but for some reason when it comes to Em they are always moving the bar
As an Em fan, id say its alright. Some really highs and some weak lows. Worst is Road Rage, obviously Best was Temporary, its one of the only songs that makes me cry
Me and some of my friends liked the concept of the album, while not his best. I liked the nostalgic throwbacks to the past and took it as a "it was what it was and doesn't have a place in the now". He should take this opportunity to move on and find other artistic muses as you said in your review.
Temporary woulda been perfect if he had rapped like he did on Arose. I think the lyrics of temporary are very very weak, and the flow doesn’t match the beat. The hook is perfect!! The beat is perfect! The samples of hailie, the message, all perfect!! But Eminem’s pen just sounded like he was thinking aloud. When I know this is the same guy who wrote When I’m Gone.
I keep coming back to that quote thats like "satire without clarity of purpose is bad satire". This is exactly what I feel. Em and his fans keep saying its satire but who is it at the expense of? He sounds no different from the people making trans jokes and gay jokes who legitimately mean it and wish harm on them. The audience that loves trans jokes unironically is the same one praising this album saying how "edgy" and subversive it is. Does em even realize that or care?
There is a purpose though, you just missed it. Tracks like road rage, where he dismantles body positity confirms the overall tone of the album. Its, for the most part, marshal opinions and not shadys. And the purpose is to show how ridiculous society is, and specialy how self-censured it has become and how everyone is a coward for not being able to voice an opinion.
The satire of the album at the expense of Slim Shady.Eminen is satirising slim shady, this he's actually satirising himself. Like how Matt and Trey satirise themselves through the Terence and Philip Chara lcters on south park
I’m assuming it’s intentional. Eminem himself is showing how unfunny and corny Slim Shady would be in the modern era. That’s the reason Eminem makes it a point to constantly bring up Christopher Reeves, outdated Gay Jokes and Midget quips. Just my two cents. He actually acknowledges in the album that he used Slim Shady as a vessel to express his most messed up thoughts which I like.
I've listened to alot of albums. 85 percent of them are just songs strung together.. ems hit such a level he's expected to do this now.. if he doesn't its considered trash because the bar for him is so high. The fact that he managed to hit it still this late in his career is amazing.
Big Stan here, I fuck with the album heavy, it's in top 5 for me. My main issue is the overuse of a lot of punchlines, like bro we get the Caitlyne Jenner joke, 3 are good 6 or 7 is too much. It felt a tad dated, but the guy is 51 with barely any social media intake to keep up with the younger generation. I don't think your favorite rapper could keep up this longevity, the best they can do is bow out early and I think that itself is impressive.
I’m quite disappointed with this album. I thought I was gonna get Slim Shady from the Slim Shady Lp Era. We got Eminem Show Era Slim Shady. Not what I expected. I just prefer “Slim Shady, Brain Dead like Jim Brady, I’m a M80” era flow.
@@djfusionkotb How can you expect someone to go back to what they were 25 years ago? He was in a completely different mindset back then, and times were wayyyy different. He was running around doing crazy shit out his mind on pills in his 20's... he's in his 50's and sober now. Find me any rapper who can sound like they did 25 years ago. I think he done a good job at tapping into that Shady mindset in the first half of this album.
Guess it makes sense because I adore them both, they both had stinkers in the past 5 years but I feel like they're returning to form and I enjoy their new shit.
As someone who had only listened to Revival, Kamikaze and Music To Be Murdered By before this (I swear I'm not a masochist), I'm so glad that I watched this review before listening to this album for the first time to get a strong understanding of the context behind all this. I still didn't like it though. How is this guy so bad at making choruses?
@@Razieleatssouls Now that I think about it, I know that he had some good choruses before Revival from some of his hits, but from Revival forwards, the only good one I can think of is Godzilla
I have followed Eminem since the late '90s... at that time, he was so impactful that it was impossible not to pay attention to him... everything he did was so refreshing... and absolutely hilarious... for a generation that was still quite repressed, he brought a banner of freedom... Besides his talent as a rapper... and with songs so relevant that they have become references for new generations... That said, and eagerly anticipating his new album, I have to say that I didn't like it at all... I agree with everything he said... it's more of the same... when I heard there was a song or two for his daughters, I almost stopped listening... I love him... I support him... and he will always be one of my favorite artists... but yes... with much regret... maybe it's time for him to step aside... it's been 25 years of career, and he has left a legacy that will last forever... but what was relevant at one point now sounds repetitive... maybe we're all just getting too old... I even have to say that I liked Music to Be Murdered By more... at least he was trying to reinvent himself... and some tracks are really good... oh well...
Can help but smile at what is basically "Let's find Eminem a hobby" call to action in the end, for some reason. Kinda bad timing for an album that is still so obsessed with political correctness when it seems to be so irrelevant in, well, current politics, and social media is so segmented now that it should be from the look of it easier than ever for celebrities to avoid getting cancelled online?
All of those topics are still very much relevant today. I mean we're still in the middle of the "culture war" where we still have right wing reactionary pundits who advocating against that stuff. That stuff will always be relevant and pervasive so long as Donald Trump remains a popular political actor.
I couldn’t listen to this album much due to Eminem’s new delivery…. All the damn mouth noises smh it started I think a couple of years ago where Em would over enunciate words, and u could just hear the saliva in his mouth. It’s sounds nasty as hell.
7:25 yep and too your point. He did this on the end of MMLP2. Evil Twin the song did what this album does in 1 track. PS: I don’t watch often but anything hip hop I’ll be first in line. Any plans on the new Yelawolf double album review?
I was surprised how much I did not hated this album, esp stuff from Guilty Conscience 2 onward is pretty alright, but it's definitely far from his best, and yeah we seen this arc before
My personal opinion is that it's pretty generous to see Eminem's early work as any kind of intentional satire; given that this man really is an abuser in real life, I think the Occam's razor explanation is that he just thought (and still thinks) saying offensive things for its own sake is funny, and satire was one of a few defenses he fell back on to pretend it was more meaningful than it was when pressed. If you need more evidence of this, I think a satire of White America is completely incompatible with the 'outsider speaking truth to power' persona that Em adopted to insult boy bands and moral guardians; that was clearly straightforward pandering to the people you claim he's satirizing. Nor is it compatible with a song like Kim, which has no obvious display of humor, it's just a straightforward fantasy about commiting heinous violence; it's not even that exaggerated when you get down to it. So I don't think those early albums are comparable at all to Fight Club, I actually think this album is much more comparable. Because just like Fight Club, Eminem now does seem to be aware on some level that what he's doing is bad for him and bad for the world, but he can't see anything beyond it. That was always Fight Club's fatal flaw in my mind -- for as brilliantly as it dressed down toxic masculinity and consumerism, it couldn't really imagine any alternative. Although Eminem doesn't have an iota of Palahniuk's skill at deconstruction, this is an attempt to kill Slim Shady. But just like Fight Club, Eminem can't seem to imagine who he could possibly be if he isn't an edgelord saying hurtful things for no reason, so he has to keep going back to the well even under the pretense of killing the persona, even AFTER supposedly killing the persona. It's one of them most profoundly pathetic things I've ever seen. As one of the Zoomers that Em is so afraid of, there's only one thing I found even a little offensive about this album, and that's that it expects me to care about Eminem as a person. I emphatically do not.
I personally disagree. This album is the most realistic and relatable depiction of personal growth I've ever heard from any artist. Eminem moved past being an edgelord a LONG time ago. Why do you think people keep asking him "bring back the old slim shady", it's cause they know he's been pretty far removed from that for a while. The most controversial things modern em will say are against other rappers , like implying that Diddy had 2pac killed, and this is just the compitetive nature of hip hop. Other than that, nothing too edgy or controversial for its own sake. Like From the previous 3 albums what truly edgy thing has he said? This album is about showing us the self-reflection and introspection he had to do to get there. When you look at most of Ems political views in real life, the dude has always been firmly liberal. He endorced Obama, while speaking against Bush and Trump. He kneeled in solidarity with BLM. He supported abortion rights. Etc. Slim shady on the other hand is different. He's a fictional character Em created as a coping mechanisms for his tragic upbringing and circumstances. Slim shady is embodiment of the the things Em hates most about himself while also being a reflection of a deeply flawed world that felt him a crappy hand. This, Slim shady wants to spread choas and rage to anyone and anything. That's what Em is grappling with on the album. This dichotomy within him. How does relsove these contradictions within him. The albums answer: through brutal and grueling honesty. See what I think the biggest misinterpretation the album is the who the aim of the satire is. People have complained about it being Woke culture, gen Z, or Caitlin Jenner but the real answer is Slim Shady himself. Em is using that introspective journey to satirise slim shady. Hes actually making fun of himself and the person he used to be at his height. Don't think his target is Gen Z or Woke culture, those are just plot devices in service to the story, he actually doesn't care if these people are offended or not. Hes putting that spotlight on himself . So if you think Shady depicted in this is pathetic and cringe, then good Em agrees with you. I believe this is what introspection really is. It's not a quick route to do a 180 as a person. Introspection is brutal, grueling, uncomfortable, invasive, and even painful. You have to cringe at yourself. You make a joke of yourself. You have to pick yourself apart. It's the only way to learn and improve bit by bit, which is what real growth is. The 2nd half of the album proves this. You actually see who Em is without the alter ego. He's flexing his rap prowess and succes fittingly with his new protege. He flying the flag high for his city with Baby Tron and Big Sean on Tobey. And Marshall is directing more attention to his loved ones on "Temporary" and "Somebody save me". This is who Eminem is in 2024. Not an edgelord or a satirest. But a gifted MC and a man trying his best.
Ya buggin. Guess we didn’t hear the same album 😂😂😂 This shit was amazing. Just bc you didn’t like his reasons for the way he thinks about trans ppl, doesn’t take away from the flawless technical ability.
That's not the way he thinks about trans people. He specifically hates Caitlyn Jenner for being a hypocrite. One of Marshall's kids is non-binary. You'll also notice that Em toes the line pretty tight. Yeah, he called Cait a ho, but that's not misgendering. The line everyone's upset about "Cait Jenner just flipped told me to knock this ish off and quit and get off HER dick." Specifically and clearly "her." Rude AF, yes, but not transphobic. And he specifically said “If men wanna wear lipstick and women’s underwear, who cares? Their s*** is their business."
Did you watch the whole review? Listen to what he’s saying, his issues with the album go far beyond the Caitlyn Jenner lines, including the technical ability.
@@thatkidwiththehoodie yea we have heard. He is still wrong. He complains about choppy flow, yet doesnt explain what he considers choppy flow, which would be important considering eminem changes flows in this album more times than most rappers in their carreer.
@eduardoborges506 "he is still wrong" LMFAO 😂😂😂😂 okay, just another em fan saying whoever criticizes their fave rapper is wrong lol you don't need to be on these videos, if this is how you react to Em criticism 😂
@@diminie_chimket no one is saying no one is saying that Em can’t be criticized. There are plenty of Em songs that I don’t like. But ppl can criticize how ppl come to those conclusions.
artistic expression isn't some mystical unknown; it's so often rooted in peoples' material realities in time, place and person. eminem was a white guy with anger issues and a problem with women, so alongside the knowledge that he was not at all alone in his feelings, that's where slim shady comes from. his problems with addiction alongside his reflecting on what slim shady became to the public form the backbone of relapse and recovery. and these are just a few examples!
Just review the album. Sounds like an essay on your dislike of Eminem throughout his career. Eminem is flawed and inconsistent, but I think you're way too subjective.
He literally did review the album. And you do know that music criticism literally is NEVER objective, right??? Who the fuck can be objective with music??? Music is ALWAYS subjective, you either do like music and think it's good, or you don't like music and think it's bad. This comment is really stupid and makes you sound like you hate that he's criticizing Em 😂
My biggest issue with this album really comes down to transphobic and pronoun talk. Obviously, no one should be above a joke or shot in this scenario. But if all you're going to do is bitch about the exact same topics, then constantly bring up being cancelled for them, even if it's meant to be seen as the wrong opinion? There's a point where the satire stops being satire and just starts being the thing it's satirizing, whether intentional or not. It's the kinda shit that causes people to take the polar opposite lesson away from what he was trying to teach. And even then, even if you argue it succeeds in making Slim out to be seen as a stale, deplorable jackass who should not be listened to... well, it succeeds too well. I see Slim as a stale deplorable jackass who should not be listened to, and as a result, i don't want to listen to his music.
@@__D-B__ Is it being triggered to expect better bars and writing from a supposed "goat", who has been a part of my life since childhood? Hell, my issue isn't with the subject matter as much as it is the execution.
This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen yet, as a massive Em fan (and someone who was pretty disappointed by this album) - I couldn’t exactly pinpoint why the satire wasn’t working anymore. Your quote about “him not being introspective and thoughtful enough to understand why” is exactly what I was trying to conclude. I think the album is an enjoyable, sonically-sound listen, but the concept of it was really badly executed :/. This review is excellent
There was no toxic relationship track in this one and I was SO relieved. 🤣
Eminem is one of the most introspective rappers in all of hip hop.
The introspection Jay Z did on 4:44, is stuff that em has been doing his entire career. He's just more cerebral with it this time.
@@STARK0181 Spoken like someone who doesn't listen to and/or isn't well versed in hip hip whatsoever. Eminem is literally one of the least introspective lyricists in hip hop. Guys like Aesop Rock, Busdriver, illogic (Not the same rapper as Logic), Rap Ferreira, Billy Woods, Quelle Chris, Greydon Square, Elucid, Hemlock Ernst, Open Mike Eagle, Stranded, Nostrum grocers, Ruby Yacht, etc. are some of the most introspective guys in hip hop. Eminem is probably near the bottom of the list when it comes to introspection, conceptual writing ability, etc.
@@musicthemusicalperson4316 Cleaning out my closet, rock bottom, Brain damage, When I'm gone, Careful what you wish for,Say Goodbye to Hollywood, Talking 2 myself, Going through changes, Stepping stone, Castle, Arose, beautiful and others are all deeply self reflective and introspection tracks of em looking deep in the mirror. Em has worn his flaws, mistakes, and insecurities on sleeve his entire career and you have to be a very introspective and self aware person to do that.
Bottom of the list would be guys like Tekashi 69 or whoever.
@@musicthemusicalperson4316 Conceptual writing ability is hard disagree too. Stan is literally a word in the dictionary all from a character Em conceptualised. The slim shady character is one of the most memorable alter egos in music also conceptualised by Em
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks MMLP2 was underrated. I will agree for the most part with the review, except I do have trouble figuring out on a good chunk of the album when Slim or Em are supposed to be the rapper.
i am happy you mentioned how underrated the MMLP2 is. it was grimy, fun, energectic, and picked up perfectly where Recovery left off. I feel like he had a good sense of direction with his albums all the way up until that point. After MMLP2 i feel like that album almost was meant to be his last. Because afterwards, as much as I enjoy Kamikae and Music To Be Murdered By. He was more in a reaction stand point to the audience, as oppose to just dropping what he wanted to drop like how he did from SSLP to MMLP2.
This new album is better than MMLP2 . This new album gives us insights into Ems psychology that we never really new before.
7:24 "I remember so you don't have to" is almost a Nostalgia Critic reference
This guy has an insane back catalog of reviews going back 11 years, very impressive and very much underrated.
Take a shot every time he name drops Caitlyn Jenner
You’ll black out very quickly
Snort coke every time he mentions pronouns or Christopher Reeves. You're dead now.
@@Betta66imagine blacking out from four shots
@@thequinlanshow3326 Isn’t it more like six?
saw a playlist of “The Death of Slim Shady but every song he mentions trans people is replaced with Auntie Diaries”
its probably a better album than actual tdoss
I truely do believe he’s done with shady, I hope so, he wanted shady gone long ago but his fans kept begging for it, so he tried to bring shady back on mmlp2, kamikaze, and MTBMB, but he’s at the point where he’s tired of slim, so he’s gonna kill him and just do what he wants, he’s about as tired if not more tired of shady than he was in 2006 with when I’m gone, shady gave him a career, but also cost him everything, and I think he just wants shady dead so he can move on, but give the fans begging just one last taste of shady before his departure
The real problem is he can’t do Shady like he used to. Shady from 1999 destroys this washed up version from this album
I loved this album tbh
7:25 this bit cut me like glass.
I always get a smile on my face whenever I hear that while watching 'that' channel often.
Felt like my brain divided something by zero, the whiplash was *that* palpable
I didn't expect you to bring up Folding Ideas' "I Don't Know James Rolfe" in this review, but I think you bring it up well here, mainly for the connecting subtext and self-awareness in criticizing that person with the persona.
Haven’t seen that video I’m glad he brought it up because I grew up with the AVGN and I feel like it’s gonna tear me apart.
To me the plug in sounded forced and pretencious, so he can sound smart
@@lupinthenerd439 man literally has a shirt with the word pretentious on it you think he doesn’t know that?
@@odothedoll2738 somehow that doesn't make his position better since he still want people to take him seriously
Somebody Save Me is my favorite on the album. I was actually so surprised to hear Eminem sample Jelly Roll, hope the song debuts high next week.
Question for the audience: Who are some rappers/artists who DO do a good job of communicating the nuances of why someome like the Slim Shady character and right wing philosophies in general are harmful?
Eminem has essentially become the U2 of rap to me (I know that comparison makes absolutely no sense on the surface, but hear me out).
When I say that, I mean specifically in terms of 1) acts that have such impressive early discographies that remain iconic...........but have since gone on to have tragically lengthy losing streaks of mediocre-at-best releases spanning over a decade with no signs of resurgence in quality..............and 2) acts that used to be hungry, adventurous and experimental but, after enduring backlash and scrutiny among fans, have regressed into pandering to fan service mode and playing it way too conservatively ever since: with every U2 album since "All That You Can't Leave Behind" essentially being a U2 fan service release and every Eminem album since "The Eminem Show" being an Eminem fan service album.
So it isn't the least bit surprising Eminem has TONS of loyal, defensive fans defending this record as some misunderstood stroke of genius because, again, he's serving the fan service red meat................but as someone who has never been an Eminem fangirl yet appreciates his earlier catalog on its own merit, I just don't find anything he has released since "The Marshall Mathers LP 2" interesting in the slightest. Been there, heard that.
this is a much better comparison than the hackneyed Elvis ones from back in the day, good shout
@@MACMAMI Eminem sounds hungrier in this album than he has in years, and it lacks the vibe of “whining” than kamikaze had to imo with better beats and lyricism than kamikaze too
While I appreciate the "Hey, Drake. They're not slow" joke. Let me be very clear in saying that Eminem's audience, particularly the standard portion of his fanbase (Not necessarily the regular fans of hip hop who may intersect) and the general hip hop culture audience are two COMPLETELY different demographics and shouldn't be conflated. There may be some general intersection/overlap, but the overall demographic of hip hop fans that genuinely participate in hip hop culture are not slow, whereas some portions of Eminem fans......let's just say theyre not always the sharpest or most culturally aware of/participatory in hip hop/black culture. Lol.
Definitely true lol. Many of his fans, Eminem is the only actual rap they listen to
That doesn’t mafewke them slow. Hip hop culture is corny af and has brought so much destruction to this world.
@@joshrentos216 You're 100% proof and a perfect example of exactly what I described. Hip hop culture doesn't bring "destruction".
@@musicthemusicalperson4316 lmfao whatever helps u sleep. That comment is proof? It’s not proof at ALL! I’m not a fan of Eminem at all, he’s a cringe 50 year old trying to be cool.
Now your whole argument is thrown out the window. Don’t let the likes fool u. In a neutral environment anybody sane would agree with me. Hip hop “culture” has, without a shadow of doubt, brought more destruction to the world than good. Keep being naive.
@@joshrentos216 1. The amount of people who agree with something doesn't make it accurate. This is an appeal to popularity fallacy.
2. You have brought absolutely nothing up but vague racist notions and allusions. Actually state something specific.
3. I've had this conversations thousands of times with people from your perspective. It's 100% wrong, and people who hold your perspective are usually operating on off pure ignorance and lack of proper sociological, economic, and historical analysis. Anyone who's dumb enough to think that such a reductive and simplistic perspective is rational is operating off of pure ignorance. We literally have a mountain of peer reviewed data showing that music does not create negative outcomes. Any supposed negative outcomes are a result of any material circumstances or factors that pre-exist any genre of music. Literally any single "problem" you try to bring up ultimately has nothing to do with music, but ultimately can be traced back to the socioeconomic conditions and systemic issues like economic inequality, lack of opportunities, and systemic racism. So, yes. You are 100% a perfect example of exactly what I described.
I remember when you looked like a teenager when I first discovered you I think back in the mid 2010’s maybe. Crazy how you’re a grown ass man now. Haven’t seen your vids since those days lol.
Honestly, the best review I’ve seen about this album so far. Glad to be a continue supporter.
Holy fuck the Dan Olson/AVGN comparison is so on point. Excellent excellent analysis. Genuinely inspirational to the kind of content I’d like to make. Rock on Mark
So you talked a little bit about that Daniel called Olson in this review, but I think it would be most interesting if you made some reviews in which you talked about those two other Daniels Romano and Bejar, as I for one would really like a Canadian music man's perspective on those particular Daniels. Aside from that I can only say that this was an excellent analysis of the Marshalll.
i’ve never cared about eminem (if i was 20
years older i might) but i always enjoy mark talking about things
I gotta say, I don't think people realize that artist do not make music for people. "Fans" tend to think that musical artist owe them an experience, but they do not. These are just people expressing THEMSELVES, not others. That is what artist do, and the best ones reach people. If anything Eminem is cursed by his own legacy, because the public talks about him like they own his creative output with their expectations.
I will say, no matter the quality, this is a pretty ambitious album solely because of all the AI voices Eminem uses. He’s pretty much telling the dipshits who steal other people’s work, “hey stupid, this is how you use AI as a creative tool.”
True it is pretty tasteful unlike Taylor Made Freestyle
I appreciated the fact that he used AI without stealing from anyone but his former self.
As a black man listening to this Eminem album, who was there for sslp, I'm sorry there's nothing here for me dawg. It all just feels outdated, tired, frustrating, and lacking introspection... Or even a valuable retrospect on his career. Every song on here is a not as good version of something he already did, and i actually feel like he disses candace and Caitlyn because he sees himself in them, both career victims with a weird edgy fan ase. A tired trope they can take off in the comfort of their own homes and rake in the dollars, no matter how much actual damage they do to society in the process. His stories of shit that happened to him 30+ yrs ago, yeah em, we sont feel that, we're going through actual shit RIGHT NOW. Hes the most impressive rhymer, but hes none of the soul of KENDRICK or NAS, or the introspective artistry and songmaking. Thats why hes not the greatest, do you understand now white America? It's not "reverse" racism. Hes not saying ANYTHING OF VALUE!
I personally disagree. I think this album is the most realistic and relatable depiction of introspection and personal growth that I've ever heard from any artist.
I think even though people know this album is a concept they're still joy judging the album in context to the story that's being told.
@@STARK0181 exactly all of a sudden people care about substance with Eminem like that stopped them from loving big pun and big L back in the day
I don't need nor care for Eminem to be introspective about topics he doesn't personally relate to. Eminem does a good job of talking about his story, his struggles, inspirations, come-up, how he feels about stuff, etc. Most black rappers that go thru that shit don't care to rap about the shit that Kendrick or Nas does, everybody has their own lane and what they choose to express as an artist. They make music for themselves before anyone else, and this album was very personal.
But to say there isn't introspection on his career/life is... blantantly untrue. That's practically what the whole album is about. Its a story about Slim kidnapping and taking control of Em, forcing him to essentially try to cancel himself, which is the subject matter of the songs until Guilty Conscience 2. When Em, gets free he critiques Slim on all the obvious, try hard, ridiculously overly offensive bars/statements. As well as his entire history of beefs, insults, his drug issue that kept him from growing up and properly raising his kids, etc. The Slim persona fires back and says he was just as complicit in it as he was, that he was just a more exaggerated version of how he really felt, and that he wouldn't be anywhere without him. Him killing the persona, was him moving past that era of his life in full, no matter how many fans ask for the old version of him. That's just scratching the surface, as he delves deeper into the concept on the album itself. Houdini is the only song that I would call another version of an older song of his. Other songs had callbacks, but had a lot of new pockets for his flows and even hooks. Nas and Kendrick both respect and are fans of Em for a reason bruh. You may not see it, because you lack the literacy, but he is definitely saying something of value.
Ok they/them something he said hit a nerve
Everyone needs to admit nobody gave af about “content” before TPAB, so please stop with the “he’s not saying anything” argument. People put Wayne and many others who have zero messages in the goat category but for some reason when it comes to Em they are always moving the bar
As an Em fan, id say its alright. Some really highs and some weak lows.
Worst is Road Rage, obviously
Best was Temporary, its one of the only songs that makes me cry
Me and some of my friends liked the concept of the album, while not his best. I liked the nostalgic throwbacks to the past and took it as a "it was what it was and doesn't have a place in the now". He should take this opportunity to move on and find other artistic muses as you said in your review.
Temporary woulda been perfect if he had rapped like he did on Arose. I think the lyrics of temporary are very very weak, and the flow doesn’t match the beat. The hook is perfect!! The beat is perfect! The samples of hailie, the message, all perfect!! But Eminem’s pen just sounded like he was thinking aloud. When I know this is the same guy who wrote When I’m Gone.
I keep coming back to that quote thats like "satire without clarity of purpose is bad satire". This is exactly what I feel. Em and his fans keep saying its satire but who is it at the expense of? He sounds no different from the people making trans jokes and gay jokes who legitimately mean it and wish harm on them. The audience that loves trans jokes unironically is the same one praising this album saying how "edgy" and subversive it is. Does em even realize that or care?
There is a purpose though, you just missed it. Tracks like road rage, where he dismantles body positity confirms the overall tone of the album. Its, for the most part, marshal opinions and not shadys. And the purpose is to show how ridiculous society is, and specialy how self-censured it has become and how everyone is a coward for not being able to voice an opinion.
The satire of the album at the expense of Slim Shady.Eminen is satirising slim shady, this he's actually satirising himself.
Like how Matt and Trey satirise themselves through the Terence and Philip Chara lcters on south park
I’m assuming it’s intentional. Eminem himself is showing how unfunny and corny Slim Shady would be in the modern era. That’s the reason Eminem makes it a point to constantly bring up Christopher Reeves, outdated Gay Jokes and Midget quips. Just my two cents. He actually acknowledges in the album that he used Slim Shady as a vessel to express his most messed up thoughts which I like.
I've listened to alot of albums. 85 percent of them are just songs strung together.. ems hit such a level he's expected to do this now.. if he doesn't its considered trash because the bar for him is so high. The fact that he managed to hit it still this late in his career is amazing.
What did u do for a living before social media?
Big Stan here, I fuck with the album heavy, it's in top 5 for me. My main issue is the overuse of a lot of punchlines, like bro we get the Caitlyne Jenner joke, 3 are good 6 or 7 is too much.
It felt a tad dated, but the guy is 51 with barely any social media intake to keep up with the younger generation. I don't think your favorite rapper could keep up this longevity, the best they can do is bow out early and I think that itself is impressive.
What about the other jokes?
Also, the younger generation is defragmented into different subcultures because of the internet
@@STARK0181 I think it's his funniest album since encore or relapse.
Lol watch out for the Em stans who will say you're wrong because you're criticizing Em and the album 😂😂😂
I’m quite disappointed with this album. I thought I was gonna get Slim Shady from the Slim Shady Lp Era. We got Eminem Show Era Slim Shady. Not what I expected. I just prefer “Slim Shady, Brain Dead like Jim Brady, I’m a M80” era flow.
Eminem show is his best album imo so I can’t relate. But nah there were glimpses of MMLP Slim I thought
@@romaretaylor9953 I wanted Slim Shady LP lol. Oh well I got that album I’ll just listen to it.
@@djfusionkotb he’s not 25 and on pills anymore my guy, he’s got too much to lose now. You act like he’s not even a good rapper anymore smh
@@djfusionkotb How can you expect someone to go back to what they were 25 years ago? He was in a completely different mindset back then, and times were wayyyy different. He was running around doing crazy shit out his mind on pills in his 20's... he's in his 50's and sober now. Find me any rapper who can sound like they did 25 years ago. I think he done a good job at tapping into that Shady mindset in the first half of this album.
This is the first mainstream album I've pre ordered on vinyl m cd
The Avgn comparison is genius
Guess it makes sense because I adore them both, they both had stinkers in the past 5 years but I feel like they're returning to form and I enjoy their new shit.
46,000 subscribers 8,000 views and only 400 likes... Says it all really
As someone who had only listened to Revival, Kamikaze and Music To Be Murdered By before this (I swear I'm not a masochist), I'm so glad that I watched this review before listening to this album for the first time to get a strong understanding of the context behind all this.
I still didn't like it though. How is this guy so bad at making choruses?
@@PurplexingLycan653 he’s not lol. The chorus for Evil is fire
Relapse and back he had good choruses. After that period he has a lot of misses for some reason.
@@Razieleatssouls Now that I think about it, I know that he had some good choruses before Revival from some of his hits, but from Revival forwards, the only good one I can think of is Godzilla
I have followed Eminem since the late '90s... at that time, he was so impactful that it was impossible not to pay attention to him... everything he did was so refreshing... and absolutely hilarious... for a generation that was still quite repressed, he brought a banner of freedom... Besides his talent as a rapper... and with songs so relevant that they have become references for new generations...
That said, and eagerly anticipating his new album, I have to say that I didn't like it at all... I agree with everything he said... it's more of the same... when I heard there was a song or two for his daughters, I almost stopped listening... I love him... I support him... and he will always be one of my favorite artists... but yes... with much regret... maybe it's time for him to step aside... it's been 25 years of career, and he has left a legacy that will last forever... but what was relevant at one point now sounds repetitive... maybe we're all just getting too old... I even have to say that I liked Music to Be Murdered By more... at least he was trying to reinvent himself... and some tracks are really good... oh well...
I... can't.... understand... your... accent...
Can help but smile at what is basically "Let's find Eminem a hobby" call to action in the end, for some reason.
Kinda bad timing for an album that is still so obsessed with political correctness when it seems to be so irrelevant in, well, current politics, and social media is so segmented now that it should be from the look of it easier than ever for celebrities to avoid getting cancelled online?
All of those topics are still very much relevant today. I mean we're still in the middle of the "culture war" where we still have right wing reactionary pundits who advocating against that stuff.
That stuff will always be relevant and pervasive so long as Donald Trump remains a popular political actor.
14:30 aw man I thought I was done with videos about this video
Somehow Mark fit both an AVGN AND a Nostalgia Critic reference into this review lmao
I'm so fucking ready
definetly dont need the background music
I couldn’t listen to this album much due to Eminem’s new delivery…. All the damn mouth noises smh it started I think a couple of years ago where Em would over enunciate words, and u could just hear the saliva in his mouth. It’s sounds nasty as hell.
Common Spectrum Pulse W
7:25 yep and too your point. He did this on the end of MMLP2. Evil Twin the song did what this album does in 1 track.
PS: I don’t watch often but anything hip hop I’ll be first in line. Any plans on the new Yelawolf double album review?
Maybe he could work on making Mom’s Spaghetti into a chain lol
Nem
GEN Z ME BRUH
More like “poop de gras” amirite?!
I was surprised how much I did not hated this album, esp stuff from Guilty Conscience 2 onward is pretty alright, but it's definitely far from his best, and yeah we seen this arc before
Thank you for this review
on the same level as the wendy's we beefin mixtape in my opinion
@@RiversEdge-e9y Never thought I’d see Eminem getting compared to Wendy’s. 🤣🤣🤣
@@RiversEdge-e9y Don't disrespect Wendy's like that. Wendy's is actually clever with their roasts lol
@@musicthemusicalperson4316bruh nah this albums incredible yall jus weird nerds hatin
Watch out for the Eminem stans, Mark
I just drank a fifth of vodka, dare me to drive?
My personal opinion is that it's pretty generous to see Eminem's early work as any kind of intentional satire; given that this man really is an abuser in real life, I think the Occam's razor explanation is that he just thought (and still thinks) saying offensive things for its own sake is funny, and satire was one of a few defenses he fell back on to pretend it was more meaningful than it was when pressed. If you need more evidence of this, I think a satire of White America is completely incompatible with the 'outsider speaking truth to power' persona that Em adopted to insult boy bands and moral guardians; that was clearly straightforward pandering to the people you claim he's satirizing. Nor is it compatible with a song like Kim, which has no obvious display of humor, it's just a straightforward fantasy about commiting heinous violence; it's not even that exaggerated when you get down to it.
So I don't think those early albums are comparable at all to Fight Club, I actually think this album is much more comparable. Because just like Fight Club, Eminem now does seem to be aware on some level that what he's doing is bad for him and bad for the world, but he can't see anything beyond it. That was always Fight Club's fatal flaw in my mind -- for as brilliantly as it dressed down toxic masculinity and consumerism, it couldn't really imagine any alternative. Although Eminem doesn't have an iota of Palahniuk's skill at deconstruction, this is an attempt to kill Slim Shady. But just like Fight Club, Eminem can't seem to imagine who he could possibly be if he isn't an edgelord saying hurtful things for no reason, so he has to keep going back to the well even under the pretense of killing the persona, even AFTER supposedly killing the persona. It's one of them most profoundly pathetic things I've ever seen.
As one of the Zoomers that Em is so afraid of, there's only one thing I found even a little offensive about this album, and that's that it expects me to care about Eminem as a person. I emphatically do not.
I personally disagree. This album is the most realistic and relatable depiction of personal growth I've ever heard from any artist.
Eminem moved past being an edgelord a LONG time ago. Why do you think people keep asking him "bring back the old slim shady", it's cause they know he's been pretty far removed from that for a while. The most controversial things modern em will say are against other rappers , like implying that Diddy had 2pac killed, and this is just the compitetive nature of hip hop. Other than that, nothing too edgy or controversial for its own sake. Like From the previous 3 albums what truly edgy thing has he said?
This album is about showing us the self-reflection and introspection he had to do to get there.
When you look at most of Ems political views in real life, the dude has always been firmly liberal. He endorced Obama, while speaking against Bush and Trump. He kneeled in solidarity with BLM. He supported abortion rights. Etc.
Slim shady on the other hand is different. He's a fictional character Em created as a coping mechanisms for his tragic upbringing and circumstances. Slim shady is embodiment of the the things Em hates most about himself while also being a reflection of a deeply flawed world that felt him a crappy hand. This, Slim shady wants to spread choas and rage to anyone and anything.
That's what Em is grappling with on the album. This dichotomy within him. How does relsove these contradictions within him.
The albums answer: through brutal and grueling honesty. See what I think the biggest misinterpretation the album is the who the aim of the satire is. People have complained about it being Woke culture, gen Z, or Caitlin Jenner but the real answer is Slim Shady himself. Em is using that introspective journey to satirise slim shady. Hes actually making fun of himself and the person he used to be at his height. Don't think his target is Gen Z or Woke culture, those are just plot devices in service to the story, he actually doesn't care if these people are offended or not. Hes putting that spotlight on himself .
So if you think Shady depicted in this is pathetic and cringe, then good Em agrees with you.
I believe this is what introspection really is. It's not a quick route to do a 180 as a person. Introspection is brutal, grueling, uncomfortable, invasive, and even painful. You have to cringe at yourself. You make a joke of yourself. You have to pick yourself apart. It's the only way to learn and improve bit by bit, which is what real growth is.
The 2nd half of the album proves this. You actually see who Em is without the alter ego. He's flexing his rap prowess and succes fittingly with his new protege. He flying the flag high for his city with Baby Tron and Big Sean on Tobey. And Marshall is directing more attention to his loved ones on "Temporary" and "Somebody save me". This is who Eminem is in 2024. Not an edgelord or a satirest. But a gifted MC and a man trying his best.
I almost don't wanna watch this to not give Eminem time of the day, but whatever for the algorithm
This guy is just so desperately wanting something new from a 51 year old. Bro its already insanely unique that he still raps at the age of 51!
Ya buggin.
Guess we didn’t hear the same album 😂😂😂
This shit was amazing.
Just bc you didn’t like his reasons for the way he thinks about trans ppl, doesn’t take away from the flawless technical ability.
That's not the way he thinks about trans people. He specifically hates Caitlyn Jenner for being a hypocrite. One of Marshall's kids is non-binary. You'll also notice that Em toes the line pretty tight. Yeah, he called Cait a ho, but that's not misgendering. The line everyone's upset about "Cait Jenner just flipped told me to knock this ish off and quit and get off HER dick." Specifically and clearly "her." Rude AF, yes, but not transphobic.
And he specifically said “If men wanna wear lipstick and women’s underwear, who cares? Their s*** is their business."
Did you watch the whole review? Listen to what he’s saying, his issues with the album go far beyond the Caitlyn Jenner lines, including the technical ability.
@@thatkidwiththehoodie yea we have heard. He is still wrong. He complains about choppy flow, yet doesnt explain what he considers choppy flow, which would be important considering eminem changes flows in this album more times than most rappers in their carreer.
@eduardoborges506 "he is still wrong" LMFAO 😂😂😂😂 okay, just another em fan saying whoever criticizes their fave rapper is wrong lol you don't need to be on these videos, if this is how you react to Em criticism 😂
@@diminie_chimket no one is saying no one is saying that Em can’t be criticized. There are plenty of Em songs that I don’t like. But ppl can criticize how ppl come to those conclusions.
☝️👏❤️✊💯🐐
Great album 🔥
You could just say you hate em
I think these "critics" overthink the music WAY too much. It's his artistic expression.
artistic expression isn't some mystical unknown; it's so often rooted in peoples' material realities in time, place and person. eminem was a white guy with anger issues and a problem with women, so alongside the knowledge that he was not at all alone in his feelings, that's where slim shady comes from. his problems with addiction alongside his reflecting on what slim shady became to the public form the backbone of relapse and recovery. and these are just a few examples!
Mark looks tired and washed
Another one who's confused about his/her/they's pronouns
Mark go watch 8 mile you’ll understand
Just review the album. Sounds like an essay on your dislike of Eminem throughout his career. Eminem is flawed and inconsistent, but I think you're way too subjective.
He literally did review the album. And you do know that music criticism literally is NEVER objective, right??? Who the fuck can be objective with music??? Music is ALWAYS subjective, you either do like music and think it's good, or you don't like music and think it's bad. This comment is really stupid and makes you sound like you hate that he's criticizing Em 😂
My biggest issue with this album really comes down to transphobic and pronoun talk.
Obviously, no one should be above a joke or shot in this scenario. But if all you're going to do is bitch about the exact same topics, then constantly bring up being cancelled for them, even if it's meant to be seen as the wrong opinion? There's a point where the satire stops being satire and just starts being the thing it's satirizing, whether intentional or not.
It's the kinda shit that causes people to take the polar opposite lesson away from what he was trying to teach.
And even then, even if you argue it succeeds in making Slim out to be seen as a stale, deplorable jackass who should not be listened to... well, it succeeds too well. I see Slim as a stale deplorable jackass who should not be listened to, and as a result, i don't want to listen to his music.
Eminem actually agrees with you.
Slim Shady is the villain of the story after all
@@STARK0181 bro don’t bother explain it to him cause if he couldn’t grasped that from listening to the album just leave him to his retardation
"she her they them"... 😂😂😂 no wonder you're triggered.
@@__D-B__ Is it being triggered to expect better bars and writing from a supposed "goat", who has been a part of my life since childhood? Hell, my issue isn't with the subject matter as much as it is the execution.
Em been a goat still a goat🐐
Bruh I know this is gonna be a negative review havent even watched
6:40 the competition is Recovery who went Diamond 🫤
Listen dude we don't care about what you gotta say ite
then why are you here
@robertgritton5953
Then why are you here? Other than you have no life.