Sony Bravia 9 | Answering Questions & More Gameplay Footage!
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Video Expectations: 00:00:00
Intro: 00:01:53
B9 VS G4: 00:02:02
Mini LED VS OLED: 00:05:10
Is B9 Good For Gaming: 00:08:00
What's Coming Next: 00:09:45
PC Gaming On B9: 00:11:50
Reflections: 00:12:51
Tekken 8 (HDR): 00:13:28
Street Fighter 6 (SDR): 00:16:06
Destiny 2 LIGHTFALL (HDR): 00:18:15
Conclusion: 00:23:17 
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The color luminance of the B9 destroys any OLED you can get your hands on. The peak brightness destroys any OLED. Yes, contrast cannot scientifically be as good as OLED. All of that said, with both tvs side-by-side and calibrated, both playing HDR content at the same viewing distance that's most optimal for 4k, who wins?
Personally, I cannot imagine the OLED winning under real-world conditions because of contrast. I base this off of one aspect alone. Did the colorist for the content grade on an OLED? If not, then any "true-black" content cannot accurately be said to be crushed or properly graded as underexposed which makes the B9/OLED arguement moot. Think about it. Yes, there are certain parts of scenes that are meant to not be seen. They are meant to be completely underexposed. However, any content that is meant to be slightly above and under complete underexposure is the only single place the OLED will win over the B9. That's how good the zone/backlight processing is in the B9. How much of that content is present? More importantly, how much of that content is covered in that "zoned" approach (that Sony seems to have mastered in the B9) vs the OLED approach? How much of that content is discerned in ambient light conditions? Could you even actually discern that there is detail to be missed without both tvs side-by-side?
It's really hard for me to accept that on the off-chance the colorist graded on an OLED, that properly mastered content would be at all meaningful or discerned amidst the everyday interaction with the tv, and that I should spend the extra $1k for the OLED. I mean, if it's your jam, go for it. But for me, the gorgeous experience that is the B9 combined with reference level audio in my home theater, I know I won't be caught up in missing that detail that may or may not even be there depending on the content. That being said, my 2017 LG OLED 65" is still kickin. Aging but kickin. So, it'll still be a couple years before I upgrade.
The overall quality surpasses flagship Oleds for the first time
Shit so real had to pin it.
@@AllAboutTKK W-OLED yes but QD-OLED color luminance can't be matched at this moment by an LCD TV.
2017 LG OLED ? My man , you are overdue for an upgrade.
@@TechWithKGnah, man. All cap. Watched your comparison review videos and the’re biased and flawed AF. The Bravia 9 is the truth.
Good Morning, TKK! The B9 looks great in the video. I totally agree with you on the micro vs mini LED conversation....mini LED technology will dominate the market for the foreseeable future because of the cost/performance ratio. It also seems that mini LED still has performance growth opportunities. I wish Sony was more generous with those HDMI 2.1 inputs though.
I wouldn’t give up on woled just yet. The LG G4 is showing that woled isn’t dead. Yes, on paper and in the lab woled doesn’t keep up with qd oled but onscreen the G4 is matching and exceeding qd oled chops. FOMO showed that the G4 has more color volume than the G3, reviewer ogcod put the G4 against the Sony A95l and it matched and bettered the A95l in color vibrancy especially in gaming. That new Lg chip is a beast. I went to a local Atlanta area Best Buy and they had a G4 mounted in the Magnolia room. The first thing I noticed was the color pop and the clarity compared the G3. They had a A95l in the same room and the Sony had nothing on the G4. But don’t take my word for, go see it for yourself. That new chip is a game changer for LG. Don’t dismiss the G4 because it has “old” technology. On screen it’s bringing the heat. No, not an Lg fanboy. I do have an Lg in my house but I also have a Samsung, TCL, and Vizio. I liken the G4 as the Buster Douglas of tvs. Lol. Nobody is giving it a chance because qd oled has the pop. But as Mike Tyson will tell you: don’t underestimate the underdog. On paper and in the lab, no chance. But onscreen, it’s a killer. Lol
Been around the g4 player.
Also I bought the C4 this year, haven’t given up on WOLED, just chose not to spend $6500 on the G4 when it’s splitting hairs with the tv I spent $5000 on last year (A95L) hope that makes sense.
Loved the comment too thank you.
@@AllAboutTKK Yep. Makes sense to me. My decision for my next tv is between the Samsung s90d, the G4 or the Sony A95l. Decisions, decisions. Lol. Either way the consumer wins. Keep putting out your videos so we consumers can make a knowledgeable choice. Thanks
That’s actually not correct since the G4 measures extremely well on paper. 😂
On the other hand, I've seen TONS of content where the A95L colors SPANKED the G4.
Many reviewers said they went blow for blow. Classy actually had the meter data to prove it.
@@AllAboutTKK Yeah you explained it the vid, a point of difference. You want a check out people with a crazy amount of headphones. One for female vocals, one for bass etc, one for electronic music etc etc . Samsung must be doing a 83" next year. Sony mini-OLEDs must have shook them up. If we get a 4 stack blue OLED , at 83" then it will be pretty sweet. Samsung is definitely working on MLA tech, but can't see that hitting an 83". the G5 with 4 stacks , maybe some new materials will be a good increase color volume. The B9 next year has to hit 4000 NIts next year. That's Sony's bread and butter, plus if not it will seem "dull" vs TCL and Hisense 2025 models in the showroom .
I haven't upgraded from my plasma as still makes me happy( love foreign and old movies , great for that ) , and family games on the PS4, well an high spec PC , won't upgrade till PS5 pro comes out. Given that thinking just getting a discounted 65" or 77" and wait a year or 2 before getting something bigger to last for a decade , as I said elsewhere full BT2020 and 4000Nits is plenty for my needs .
It's just amazing how fast it's all moving. Like AMD shook up Intel and pushed Nvidia . and the Apple ARM and new Qualcomm ARM chip are shaking up small build devices.
I can't wait for cheap OLED 12" tablets for graphic novels/comics and magazines, With cheap RGB OLED printing coming .
Hand hold gamers with new efficient AMD and ARM SOCs are going to be smiling , playing latest AA and retro games on inky black and vibrant screens. New SOCS that are better than a 3060 or even 4060 , yet small and low power draw
I have always believed in LEDs, even though OLED do look absolutely beautiful. It’s like looking at a painting I repeat it’s actually quite beautiful, like a pastel painting that is to say it’s not actually real looking to what is actually represented by reality as we perceive it. Just as an ad cap several years ago I took up photography as an art and I also like painting. It’s all perception and very individualized to what you like. That’s the freedom we have.😂
The Street fighter looked perfect. Can't imagine it looking better
It looks almost like glasses free 3D pretty insane
Enjoying your content and approach to technology, and have started following you. Keep up the great work!
I went with the 75” Bravia 9.
same
love the channel content and your honesty!
B9 is a triumph for Sony and very likely their best product yet. The first led TV that surpasses Oled image quality
If it doesn't surpass OLED it sure comes close.
@@furballbear I meant overall image quality
Only Brightness is better than Oled. Black Levels, Viewing Angles, Response Times is much better than Bravia 9.
Great channel. Started watching you on your chewlix build and now I bought one.
Thank you kindly!
The brightness is what intrigues me the most. I don't see "true blacks" in real life so it's not distracting having a smidge of blooming. We see the sun as our source of color every day, brightness equates to reality in alot of ways, especially if it's done right. Both oled and mini led have their own inherent flaws, so lets enjoy everything we have. Also, can you show Gran Turismo? The HDR in that game is amazing
Great video man!
Sadly OLED fanboys keep proving that there's nothing more enjoyable for them than looking at a 100% black screen with a single white pixel.
@@thenonexistinghero I have an OLED and I definitely think the hype is worth it, but there are a lot of downsides for me that hasn't made the switch worth it. There is no perfect display out there.
@@SpencersStuff1777 I know a few people OLEDs and honestly I think the deep blacks and 'supposed' extra depth are way overhyped. The extra perception of depth likely is moreso a placebo than anything else.
Personally I'd recommend and OLED for most people if they have the budget for one, but it just wouldn't work for me. I like my TV free from burn in for more than 3 or so years and I'm not willing to turn down the brightness and baby it constantly to prevent that from happening. My TV is a work horse and no OLED is capable of withstanding the abuse I throw at it.
@@SpencersStuff1777went from C1 to S95b . No patches... iv yet to see any newer TVs... I can't imagine anything looking better.
Not saying they don't
Games, Movies have a hyper realism not reflecting in real life. Eg that BT2020, hard to see pure color day to day , except emissive sources like lasers, fireworks, burning metal . As ambient white light is everywhere . look at edges of green leaves, the white tinge. Given that people find the colors in games, cartoons very pleasing. Though note a dull red led is red , pure red - you can not get redder. If a TV is well color tone mapped, to your brain a 85% bt2020 coverage and 75% coverage will seem pretty much as colorful. It's only side by side , or just the knowledge the other TV does it better that affects you.
You see this in people comments, now I have this , I can not go back, Yet that previous thing was reviewed as best thing ever.
Plus many people rate size number one over PQ by a good margin
When you say it like that, kinda insane you have so much TVs lmfao. Nice
Just heard him list off all those TVs.. ha that was crazy..
I actually miss my old DLP he just mentioned that.
First TV I ever used as a PC monitor. Lol and that was for Battlefield 2 , all these FPS nerds say you need 24inch or 27... I laugh
Really enjoying how natural everything looks on the Bravia 9...have had a 75 in the house since Friday. I like that it seems focused on getting the APL of a scene as close as possible first and foremost, and then the backlight will go to work doing the best it can with shadows and highlights. The proper APL is critical in my opinion
Interesting take on the B9. I have an aging C7 and decided to get the B9 to replace it. It will hang in my den and I use it mainly for movies and some gaming. because of the room has a really large window I wanted something bright. I haven't gotten it yet, Sony just barely shipped it out. I also have a C3 in a living room and projector for the theater room so I know what you are talking about when it's not always about OLED. In any case, I think I made a good decision going to a mLED.
Thanks for showing a solid picture of what it looks like. I’m very impressed. I’d love to see more game content like GoW or TLOU.
Right now I’m just waiting to order the 85” once it’s available to order from Best Buy. I thought I’d at least would be preorder the tv by now
Appreciate this content. I don’t have a gaming room so I want an all around TV so the gaming demo is important to me. I’m LGC1 owner and want some more brightness so definitely interested in Bravia 9’s performance across various content.
Keep on bring the great content. In game mode which tv is brightest between the Sony Bravia 9, LG G2 and A95L?
Great video bro!
My brother thank you good sir!
I feel you my brother 😎 💯 I got more respect for you man Sony it's a best choice
Call of dutys campaign mode missions have one of the best visual experiences. Especially the night time missions. You can try one of those on the b9
paul and lee are my favorite tekken fighters. I like paul cuz he is the fighter that's the closest to mma, with his judo and kickboxing
Thank you for doing these videos and content comparisons. It's very much needed. The B9 looking great. So bright it even overwhelmed your camera a bit. Made it blow out and haze a little. But I take your words for it because you're the one seeing it. And you said it was crisp and not what you saw in your viewfinder. So that's awesome.
I mean it sure doesn't seem to lack color and brightness.
Please test Doom Eternal in different areas on PC if possible. That would be awesome to see.
A little request would be if you could show settings and try some out in a future video, that would be much appreciated. Such as Destiny or some other game and try out black equalizer off and on low etc. And gamma 0 and -1. Play around a bit to see how much it changes the looks of the game mode and black levels. I guess the ISO of the camera is really hard to deal with such a bright TV, but maybe slightly lower ISO of increase the f-stop.
Again fun and exciting to see this footage, for someone like me and others that plan to get one. It's nice to get an idea. I know you're all into OLED so if you think it's pretty decent in gaming and outside of it, knowing OLED contrast. But it still can hang. That is cool.
Excellent review. The one thing I was looking for was blooming - any intel on that issue? I suspect it won't be prevalent except in the most extreme cases.
Blooming exist but not at all as a real issue like with any LED prior.
Good morning ❤
Dune 2 4k disc, great movie and the sound rocks.
I saw that they sell a camera separately called 2024 Model BRAVIA CAM (CMU-BC1)that even if you use the camera stuff, anyways thanks for sharing.
Got to get the 85' version bro to see the full potential
Yo btw, is it possible to play some Helldivers? There's some really nice planets that are dark, so you can just run around and leave if needed. That's how I tested overclocks on my GPU lol
It seems that, as was the case with the x95k and x95L, the 85" version is superior to the rest of the sizes. Are you going to have that version once it is available for sale? And what about movies?
I would like to see how Doom Eternal looks on both the Bravia B9 and the A95L
G4 and bravia 9 are clearly the tvs to buy this year. They are out my price range at the moment I'm considering c3 or x95L never had oled little concerned c3 isn't bright enough in a bright room although sun wouldn't hit the screen directly. Have you noticed any eye fatigue going from gaming on oled to led
Hisense u9n is the best tv this year
I originally bought a G4 and canceled it because of cost and then hearing about the B9. The G4 is an amazing TV there’s no doubt but it costs about $1500 more for a comparable size to the B9 75 inch.
Do Hisense u9N vs bravia 9! Hisense u9n has 4000 nits display to.
The brightness of the B9 is even too much for the camera to properly display. The highlights keep clipping the sensor. Not your fault! Just a testament to the tv.
Facts.
@@AllAboutTKK what's up brotha? I feel you on what you said about the G4. I went into my closest Best Buy since they just started to hang up the G4s on display. The 83 inch G4 is a harddddd pass for me. That shit looks like a C4. There was a Jamaican brotha there with me looking at them and we both noticed how much dimmer the 83 inch looked in comparison to the 65inch G4. However, that 65inch looked fuckin beautiful bruah. Shit was nice, bright and punchy. However, I still would take the Sony A95L or even the S95D over it just because when you put them side by side, the colors on the QD-OLED just looks great!!! It also would only make sense to me to get a 77inch QD-OLED over the 83inch G4 just because that shit in comparison to the 65inch looked very dim and the images were so damn stretched.
Just my two cents on the matter from what I've seen in person.
I have an 83” a90j and still struggle with 24f movies and the stutter. The picture is stunning but I can’t stand the soap opera effect when trying to smooth it out slightly . I’ve been thinking of getting the B9 for better motion on slow frame rates.
Please fix the tv settings first Disable all extra features set profile to professional , local dimming to high and peak brightness to high Make another comparison video Thnks!
Have you watched any sports on it yet? I'm curious how it handles the motion, does it have any ghosting blurr?
Not yet. Just wrapped up the first ever video content I’ve watched on it but I’ll be sure to make sure I get some boxing running on it.
Pretty sure it would look WAY better if you tweaked the colors, and blacks unless you're ok with this then that's fine too (wrote this before the end of the video my bad, I heard what you had to say about this 😂)
The first comparison between the G4 and Samsung S95D at RTings and the winner was the G4. It shows how good the G4 is.
WOLED can not keep up with the color volume of a QD-OLED.
I prefer the more brilliant colors over a very slight increase in brightness.
The B9 is in the picture SOLELY because of its substantial increase in brightness.
@@MrUpscalemanQD-OLEDs throttle down due to heat. It may not be an issue for some, but I know would never be OK with that. There are pros and cons with every tech.
@@airforcex9412 JUST like WOLEDs do. In fact, it's been reported that the G4 gives off substantially more heat than the A95L.
@@MrUpscalemanThe qoled colors brichtnes was apparently not enough to win.Because it's not that big of a difference.
@@MrUpscaleman Now go watch the video on RTINGS showing the 2 of them. It's very clear which one has more vibrancy and it's not the qd-oled. The matte screen, the raised blacks, it both plays a part, but it gets crushed and I'm not the type to normally say things like that.
Better or as good as oled bud?
Next week the LG G4 55inch for me
Same!
Nice man, congrats.
Thx
@@zzmorg82 G4 55inch for gaming and movies 😀😁
a good high end led is just as good as oled dont believe the oled groupies i have both a q90t and c1 and both tvs are amazing
What is the name of that street fighter song. Thanks
Fete
Panasonic Z95A is the most gorgeous from picture quality perspective period but its not in the US what a shame...
May I ask how responsive it felt during gaming? I know OLED’s inherently super responsive due to instantaneous pixel response so I wonder how it feels to game on an non-OLED after spending last 2 years on LG OLEDs
Good question
So I'm thinking about getting last year's model TV. I'm stuck between Sony A95L vs LG G3. I got a deal with Best Buy and can get it for 1700$ and open box for LG is 1200$. I am an extreme fan of reality creation from Sony. Any recommendations?
A95L for sure man, unless it puts you into a financial bad place.
@@AllAboutTKK preciate it man. Keep up the good vids I’ve enjoyed them more then the other reviewers
As silly as this may sound, gaming wise do you feel the brightness is noticeably superior to gaming on your OLEDs? When gaming with lights on, I do wish my C1 was brighter to pop through more. Sometimes I simply don’t want to be in the dark during TV time so B9 is very interesting to me. Thanks again, TK.
Doesn’t sound silly at all, yes it’s brighter and the kicker is that in game mode it’s dimmer than outside of game mode.
@@AllAboutTKK I see. Thanks for the reply snd I hope your channel continues to grow!
What local dimming setting were you playing in ?
Default. Gonna fine tune tonight as I start tuning the tv for movies.
Ok so it’s a95L then. Going to purchase 77inch tomorrow
Order it from Value Electronics.
Best price and the best in the biz.
LG G4 is generations ahead of Sony and Samsung this year, the MLA is real, and it is not capped out! How about you just properly calibrate your sets, and then you will see how much color volume actually exists, but cute video. After dealing with Samsung black out issues along with other issues with Samsung just producing better than LG G4.
Hard to really tell the picture quality when viewing on RUclips through a compressed video. I think the only way to truly show the strength and weakness would be to compare it to another where we as the viewers can try to see the difference on camera. Due the compression, you literally have to tell us what you’re seeing with your naked eyes as the camera won’t pick that up
It was looking really good on my samsung smart phone when I changed the resolution
@@kp117 Oh no doubt the picture is very clear, we just don’t know what we’re seeing as far as HDR highlights and blooming to another television as this is a 4000 knit television and the phones only go to maybe 1600
You got to get what's good for I seen the bravia at high tv store i go to I put one of my flash drives in with movies like prometheus and dark movies Luke John wick , it's not for me , I have a jvc 8k projector, and a have aPanasonic LZ2000 ,Sony A95L , and plan on getting the Panasonic Z95A, I like Panasonic and jvc processing better than sonys in my opinion.
How are the viewing angles?
They are very clean for an LED.
Unfortunately, I haven't seen a Bravia 9 with clean edges. That would drive me crazy.
sony's are well known for vignetting. You'd have hoped they'd "fix" it this year with the new series, but apparently not.
@@paulcox2447 my thoughts exactly. My A95L is clean as it gets.
Does the Bravia 9 deactivate local dimming zones in game mode?
No. He raised the black levels in the game bar. Black adjust is on low
It’s almost certain it does in low input mode.
Biggest B9 downside is that it doesn’t come in 97” size. It’s trying to compete in OLED space and it’s the more expensive one (when we include discounts currently available). That’s bad. For same money OLED wins. OLED for less? Insanity. If they did 97” for reasonable money then I would be in B9 team
Should I upgrade my c2 ? I wanna go back to Sony lol
could have changed the name to AllAboutOled
Apparently the 75 and 85 are better
Once you go oled, you never want to go back.😂
Qdoled is superior technology, bru.
Why tell a QD-OLED owner this?
This tv looks good.. don’t like the reported blooming.. I kinda still believe the S90D Qd Oled is better than this tv
Tv has the best contrast and lowest blooming of any consumer LED.
I think what you just said is that you prefer an OLED, but no OLED has better shadow detail than this tv. Have to pick your poison.
@@AllAboutTKK so in your opinion.. this is the best tv you’ve ever owned.. you’ve always kept it real.. of course I don’t have the Sony to see it in person.. I’d take your opinion over my own because you literally purchased the best TVs but seriously.. in your opinion is this sony the best tv?
@@lawrencehansbro8925 best LCD TV yes. This is the best 85” or 75” tv of all time.
g4 > Bravia 9 and a95L. Review it.
This dude basically got so many OLED TV's that he got bores enough to try and go backwards to an LED screen with this Bravia 9 bs. I would never go back to an LED after enjoying the benefits of an OLED screen for years. Brightness doesn't even matter when your black levels aren't pure with qualitative contrasts. This video was for pure sh!ts and giggles cause TKK already knows what time it is when you've been rockin' out with an OLED screen. That's like you've been driving a Lamborghini Revuelto (or Aventador) for years and now you just felt bored enough to try the new Corvette Z06 💁🏾♂️.
Bravia 9 >>>>>>>>>>> OLED