Roccat Kone XP Air Review - Deep Dive with Click Tests!
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- In this review I cover the Roccat Kone XP Air mouse. It retails for $170, but brings a lot to the table (or desk?). So is it worth the premium over its wired counterpart?
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro and Basics
04:28 - RGB and Swarm
08:06 -Get Good
11:02 - Clicky Tests!
17:20 - Final Thoughts
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Very humble yet detailed reviewer. Really enjoyed listening to you. Great video! I ordered the XP air btw👍🏻
Very good review! Thanks!
Thanks man. As a Leadr user, I have been looking for a replacement. I love the ROCCAT line of products, and didn't want to have to switch to another. The points that counted for me you covered well. Most appreciated.
Loved my LEADR, but the base station just died, killing the wireless. It's also double-clicking a lot now, but it's been like 5 years since I got it. The Kone Xp Air seems like the best replacement. Especially on sale for $130.
Hello, a small question on the easy-shift button of the mouse. I searched but did not find.. can we hold this button in maintained mode????? Because to have access to the other allocations of the keys, we are forced to maintain this button and once released we return to normal mode !! But now if you keep this easy-shift button, you lose the 4 buttons on its left side because they are logically dedicated to the thumb... if the thumb is on the easy button, it can't also be on these 4 buttons!! If we can't, why isn't this button more on the right side of the mouse?
hi, kone xp vs xp air, left and right click button feel the same? i tried a xp, love everything about it except the left and right button, feel quite stiffy heavy to push.
Thanks for the video. How does the mouse compare to the roccat leader? what do you prefer?
It seems like a great mouse. Currently using the Burst Pro Air. Considering that mouse cost $100, this mouse with all the functionality with the buttons, the dock, etc. seems fine at $170. That seems to be the going rate for a flagship mouse these days. The use case for COD Warzone is interesting since I'm also not great with my hotkeys for all the ancillary functions needed to play the game. If I had that all on the mouse itself it seems like a better way to play. I could also see this mouse being great for any MMO out there.
I have a Kone Pro Air in my collection but haven't used it in a good while now. Nice mouse but i hate how easy it is to press in the scroll wheel while scrolling.
Design scheme of the lights look really cool on this mouse. It looks like a strand of DNA flowing through the mouse.
Great video.
I'm really interested in the XP air, after having two G502 Lightspeed develop doubleclick on me. The price is too steep for me though, but it's definitely on my radar now, and I'll be keeping an eye out for price reductions and sales.
The new version of the G502 was just released. It has new switches in it now so hopefully that sorts the dreaded double click issue that Omron switches were known for.
@@garethg8226 yeah hopefully the new switches are good in the G502 X series. Time will tell I guess. But that is also a bit too steep in price for me as it is now. Another mouse to keep an eye out for sales I guess. :)
@@TheTrueBloodish Prices are ridiculous that's for sure. I picked up a Hyperx Pulsefire Haste Wireless for 60 euro's last week and am enjoying that. Just waiting to get a Pulsar X2 when they eventually arrive on Amazon. I have a mouse addiction. 😂
I use to be dedicated to Logitech, but they’re way behind in the times. Switching over completely to roccat.
Can I use the ez shift as a regular button
Just got my Roccat kone xp air for Christmas it was fine when everything was setup but when I went to switch the key buttons on the mouse, it stopped working when applying. I need help with this situation and google doesn't help me and no videos about it on youtube.
Hello, how is the mouse after 5 months? Im looking for something, most reviews says logitech g502x series are better than this, but i kinda like here the dock and rgb, so how is it for you after the time?
Has the mouse wheel developed issues yet, like erratic scrolling? Has the LMB started double/triple clicking and crashing Windows Explorer yet?
I am really hesitant to buy another Roccat mouse, last two Kone Remasters developed these issues within weeks from brand new out of the box condition. I have gone back to my Roccat Tyon that is 8 years old. Quality of products fell off a cliff when Turtle Beach acquired the company. :(
The new ones use the titan optical switches which don't have that issue any more. I think that's part of why they switched
@@GadgetryTech Ahh okay thanks, the Roccat Keyboard I use has optical, and so far no issues.
I appreciate this video. It gives me hope that i will be able to find something that can work when my Leadr finally dies. After buying 3. I will not pay the extra money to buy one of the few left for purchase.
which one would you recommend more because i'm currently torn between the logitech g pro x and the roccat kone xp air could you help me out ?
I personally would go with Logitech
Roccat kone xp air. Logitech has no quality control. Logitech stopped caring about gaming peripherals a long time ago.
@@bashfullJ88 Same with Roccat
Good review, super detailed, Roccat doesn't come directly to my country so it costs 2 or 3 times more than a razer or logitech. I use the Razer Basilisk ultimate and I love it!
That’s a shame
I got this mouse about a month now. I do like it and they are throwing out updates left and right. One gripe - one of the updates fixed the LED for charge indicator just above the DPI mouse. Sounds great minus the fact its bright as hell. Turning off the LEDs doesnt turn it off when its charging. And sometimes, it starts flashing, back to solid, flashing, back to solid. Just weird. I also wish that the software showed the hours left, not battery percentage. percentage isnt really useful lol. Otherwise, its a decent mouse. I did contact Roccat about the light and they told me there is no way to change it. Ill probably buy white electrical tape and cut a small piece to fit over it. Dumb but whatever.
This mouse is flaky as hell. Mine never lights the indicator between the profile switcher and scroll wheel, on dock or plugged in. Dock only lights up sometimes when placing mouse on it. (supposed to light according to charge %) Placed it on charger last night and it didn't charge. Hardware feels great, it is obviously firmware/software issues.
@@Cobalt135 thats why i stopped using it. The software fixed what was broken that i didnt know was broken lol. I ended up switching to the logitech 502 x plus whatever they call it, the newer highend version of the 502, and i only charge it occasionally since i leave the ligjts off and i turn the mouse off when i dont use it. Its been a much better experience. More expensive sure, but 100% better.
@@micahpowers2614 Just had a look and ordered the 502 x wireless (502 x plus without the RGB). Already have a G915TKL keyboard so it will be nicer just having the G Hub software for both as well. Luckily I'm within the return window for Amazon so this Roccat is going back.
Xp Air looks nice, but battery will be crap in 2-3 years ?
I may have finally found a suitable replacement for my beloved G700s
If you play COD:WZ then you should also get a Razer Tartarus Pro for your left hand.
Forget about gaming keyboards already. Those are still keyboards.
The Tart Pro comes with a D-pad, thumb button, and a spacebar like button for your thumb that you can basically quickly assign to more functions.
It even has a scroll wheel with click. Once you've assigned those to actions in game and muscle memory kicks in, it will change your game completely.
I just bought a Kone XP (not air). I am decently happy with it, but I would have been happier with it had I not had a really great mouse before that. The Roccat Tyon! That mouse had only one thing I didn't like, the small pointless analog flipper. Never used it and it was in the way, but the rest of the mouse felt tight, not like any buttons that feel like they could come loose like how I now feel with this XP mouse. Also the side buttons are quite awkward to get comfortable with compared to the Tyon. I wish they'd remake the Tyon and simply just remove the analog flipper on it. That would be perfection. Lighting was great, robustness was great. THAT is what I want. I desperately want the sideways-flipping flipper that was on the top and middle of the Tyon, I used that one sooo much, struggle to get comfy with pushing the scroll wheel left and right as on this one.
Comparison is great. I kept telling my wife this mouse feels exactly like the mouse version of an elite controller. I switched over from controller to mnk with the Kone XP and it made it much better. Thinking about grabbing the Air now
One question, are the side buttons on the Air crisp? The only problem i have with the Xp wired is mine has really mushy side buttons with pre travel and not a crisp click
@@dskillz32 I just got mine and tested it for about an hour now. I came from the roccat NYTH(greatest mouse ever made).. unfortunately, it's been about 8 years and I'm getting sensor problems about twenty percent of the time. 8 years is still double the life of what some Logitech users claim. Anyways.. Half of the reviews, not this one because I don't remember if I finished this video, but... Ignore negative reviews saying,"the tilt wheel clicks the middle mouse button, the easy shift (bottom thumb button) is easy to press... All hogwash. Or they're really clumsy or whatever. This mouse is great. Four thumb buttons above are clicky, solid, and feel good. The bottom thumb button, I use it as a button and not easy shift as that's a dumb concept for that spot.. But you can make any button easy shift... Which I don't I just use them all as buttons(squad, Arma, Csgo nades). The bottom thumb button is solid. You actually have to give it some pressure to hit it. I like it. Comparing to my nyth, this is lighter(I don't mind either weight), however, the lmb and rmb clicks feel more solid on the nyth. Not a deal breaker. It's ok.. Just.. The nyth was perfect. Other than that.. this new one is better than I expected, especially after all the anti roccat fanboy reviews. Mouse feet are nice too. I just wish the bottom forward mouse button was a little bigger, as I'm trying to get used to that to crouch in cs.... My problem though... It's ok and I'll get used to it.. But damn.. My nyth was perfect. Bittersweet. Wireless is nice though. Solid mouse. Amazon for 130 rn. Take it back if you don't like it. Oh and no connection issues as other reviewers have said. Software solid as usual.
@@dskillz32 short version. Impressively clicky as hell with almost zero travel. Very nice.
@@dskillz32 My XP side buttons are a bit scratchy mushy and on the Air they are crisp. Though im not sure if its just long use does that.
@@funplaymix7710 The side buttons on my XP feel the same. I think the build quality of the Air is just better as the buttons on my mouse have been like this since day one but I have grown used to it so it doesn't bother me as much. They dropped the price of the air too so I might still pick it up for prime day.
Frag Master :P in UT99 times there was no such advance mouses on market only ball ones.
I would kill a man for a Leadr. Best mouse ergonomics i've ever tried. Beats me why they couldn't do a refresh on that with better battery. I had to return mine because of squeaky clicks while later i realised i could have just lubbed it with silicone spray. I regret my choice every single day
I really love the Leadr too. I hope they do a refresh one day.
Wish Roccat made mice like they used to. I have a Tyon and its been such a great mouse and their Nyth before that. Both great mice! Now...Roccat's mice lack variety in design. All you get are Kone this Kone that. The XP Air looks nice, except for that long travel time of the left/right clicks. Roccat definately needs a refresh of the Tyon / Leadr imo.
This is going to sound crazy. But is there a way you can help me by giving the steps I need to get this set up 😂🤦♂️. I’m not tech savvy and every video I see just shows the same as you. But I need help getting it set up with the dongle and pc. Not tech savvy at all and here for my son.
You would want to download and install Roccat swarm software. Once you installed it, plug the long usb cord into your computer and the roccat charging dock. Then you plug the small usb transmitter in front of the dock. From there, open roccat swarm. It will say you have updates. Install those updates then you’re good to go! Make sure the switch is on underneath the mouse itself. Good luck.
@@GadgetryTech I appreciate the instant reply. Man I did this haha it just keeps giving me the load circle in the swarm. 😂🤦♂️ I’m about to shoot this monitor 😂
@@GadgetryTech so I got it updated. The charging dock that is. But when I go to the mouse in swarm. It doesn’t show anything. Just shows the blue loading circle. I can’t get into the settings
@@GadgetryTech ohhh I think I did it 😂😂😂. I had the mouse on Bluetooth not on WiFi: and when I switched it to WiFi it showed up ok swarm for the settings.
HOLY SHIIIIIIIT. I’m only 35 but iam the worse tech savvy person. I should have listened in class for computers haha.
@@srod2620 Hey, you were able to figure it out on your own in the end and now have the knowledge for the rabbit hole of mice and other peripherals you'll buy. Sometimes plugging in the device with the USB cable and plugging in the wireless dongle to an extra USB port will get both devices seen and acquire any firmware updates, talking more about first time startup and installation.
I was very disappointed in the XP Air. I had a Roccat Savu for ten years, and the quality has dropped significantly. Still searching for the perfect mouse.
*cries in logitech rattling wheel and tinny, super loud mouse clicks*
So I shut my pc off when I sleep and that's when I want to charge my mouse. For me, having a dock that uses pc power to charge is pointless.
Isn’t it compatible with any usb-a adapter too?
@@blueboy1345 It is but you loose some RGB Settings and instead of only plugging 1 hardware in you now have the dongle and the charging base to plug in. The mouse will also charge with usb c cable so the base isn't even needed. It needs to have the option to be a powered base like some usb hubs. Then you can plug into the PC and get all the RGB if you want it and still be able to charge when the PC is off.
@@stevescott8732 Have your PC sleep and still provide power to charge devices. I've had many issues with dongles plugged directly into my cases and prefer to use included dongle extenders, which the likes of the Kone Pro Air includes. Although thinking about it now, you may need to dock that mouse on the charging stand and use keyboard commands to set PC to sleep as moving mouse onto charging stand will wake it back up.
Why do you shut the PC off? I’ve had many computers and they’ve ran non stop since day one. I’ve had older hdd’s fail but nothing since SSD.
Mine failed. Scroll wheel. Wayyyyy to early imo.
I just can’t justify double the price for wireless over the wired version.
Great Mouse, but i hope roccat work more on software. Because it looks terrible.
Event a font and color scheme overhaul would go a long way these days.
I actually like the Swarm software. Might be the only one though. 😆
@@garethg8226 Dude Really ? I used the software for my keyboard and mouse, but it feels like i used a software from 1990.
@@rifkiiqbal1164 I dunno. I feel it's laid out very well. Roccat made a big mistake with that other software though that they have for the Syn Pro Air headset. It should have worked with Swarm.
I have used Swarm, Neon, iCue, Master Plus, Synapse, Armoury Crate, GHub, Glorious / GMMK Editor, HyperX NGENUITY, Steel Series Engine, pretty much everything besides NZXT Cam and find Swarm to be the best. It loads fast, is light on resources, updates weekly in a fast manner, scales its window properly with 1080p-4k native resolutions and provides its settings and options in a well laid out and intuitive manner with the right information per tab. And one more thing...no advertisements, especially for 3rd party products!
With peripherals nowadays, a main focus for review should be the software/drivers.
Razer Synapse 3
Corsair iCue
Logitech GHub
These makes any of these brands completely useless, because of the bloat, spyware and being just an ad-platform, with a side-function of handling your mouse. Not to mention how dumb, buggy and unintuitive it is.
Swarm is not perfect, but it is far superior to those major brands and many more. It's actual peripheral software.
I know it's a meme at this point about weaklings needing 40g mice but on a real note. I love a lil weight 80+less than 110.i love Lil resistance in feet and pad.i work with hands irl and ultra light are completely less controllable for me. Even after years with g203 at 70g . Hand me a90g mouse, regardless of shape and I aim better. Games like tarkov love the extra buttons as well. Great mouse for me