More Landings & Some Maneuvers: Episode 6 of Cally's Private Pilot Training Journey
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2023
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Cally is working on becoming a Private Pilot and we are documenting the whole process! We are at Riggin Flight Service for the next month while she works on learning how to fly. Follow along for the whole process and let us know if you have any questions.
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progression with each flight!
Yes! It's fun to experience.
You're getting better with your landings - looking good!
Thank you!!
Doing great Cally! The more you experience the easier it will become. Biggest thing to remember is to stay ahead of the airplane. a C-172 is a great plane to learn in, but it has it's limits as do you. Fly safe. Keep Climbing!
Totally! This is great advice. I was chasing it quite a bit. Appreciate you watching!
Proud of you Kid-0!
Thank you!!
I see a dramatic improvement in your landings, great job! 👍 Remember, confidence has to be BUILT, it doesn’t just happen like that. Right now, you are still building your confidence and you are doing quite well with that. Slow and steady wins the race. On a side note, what’s with the weather up there? I’m in Columbus, Ohio now and it’s sunny and 73 degrees here and it was 78 yesterday in Kansas City, MO. I’m running the A/C as I type this. 😂 Stay warm!
Thanks so much!! Well right now it's about 52º with 100% humidity and off and on showers and poor visibility. Could be worse, could be better!
Great job... the real fun will start shortly. You got to bounce a few and float a few. When my instructor got out and sent me off. The airplane turned into a glider, I couldn't get it to come out of the air. I had to do two go arounds on the short sod stirp. Finely got it back on the grd the third try..
Thousands of landings later, still remember that one.
Ahhh the memories!! I was not prepared for the takeoffs without my instructor on solo!
It will come together.
It has and it is the best feeling ever!
Awesomeness ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ the video
Thank you!!
You're looking good! Your instructor won't turn you loose for solo until you're ready. To this day, I still have to to remind myself to keep my eyes at the end of the runway if I haven't been out in a while. Keep up the good work!
Totally!! Can't wait for you to see Episode 8!
@@AgAviationAdventures looking forward to it!
you are getting better every time! just keep on going!
Thank you, Charles! Feeling better every flight.
You are doing so good!! I notice little things with you on each flight that you are probably feeling. The airplane is becoming yours which it should. You don’t want to be mentally borrowing that aircraft you want to own it. It’ll get to where it’s just an extension of your body. I see you developing that mindset and that’s good. You’re also staying humble which is important too! And Tyson, 😂😂 what a crack up, yes it will for sure come down eventually!! Cally, make her come down on your terms. Fly that airplane all the way until she’s parked. Oh yeah, and when you solo, wear an old shirt you don’t mind getting ripped up because traditionally they cut your shirt tail off. You probably knew that but just in case 😉. Hang in there Cally, you got this!!! 👍🤠👍
Thanks Rob!! Can't wait for Episode 8 to drop 😋
@@AgAviationAdventures looking forward to it 🤠
Tyson’s remark was quite hilarious! 😂
Solo test, mine was we went did one landing Inst got out of the ac at the end of Rwy said go show me a take off Ryan full stop landing as I was on down wind I said self ya better do it right cause there’s no one end here to save your ass. Almost shit my pants but I grease that one and things got a lot better after that. Solo at 12 hrs. Keep it up and best of luck. 😊😊
Hahah!! If you're not almost shitting your pants are you doing it right? Thank you!!
I found my issues was not pulling back smoothly or slow enough and would balloon up before settling back. Took me awhile to smooth it out. Looking fwd to the solo video publish.
Yep! I had this same issue.
Your CFI is the final authority on this, but a couple things I noted:
1. Looks like you may be coming in a little hot on your approach leading to lots of float? What "over the numbers" speed are you using? Looks like around 70kts and sometimes 80kts from the video. Getting your final approach speed closer to 65kts (172 POH says 60-70kts for approach speed) will really help nail the landings.
2. From my understanding (I'm currently working on my CFI) a power off stall shouldn't requiring flying with the stall warning horn on for very long. Maybe you were doing slow flight into a power off stall. In which case the guidance from the FAA for slow flight is not to fly with the stall warning activated, but rather to fly at a speed slightly above stall warning activation. This is to prevent the pilot from getting used to flying around with the stall warning horn blaring and thinking "everything's ok". Except during practice stalls and touchdown, the stall warning going off should be an indication that something isn't right and I agree it's not a great idea to get very used to it.
3. Maybe it was mislabeled, but the power on stall didn't look like there was full power applied before the stall?
Just little things I noticed. But you're doing a great job flying and keep it up! Getting close to solo is exciting and nerve-racking! Love your channel!
Thanks for your comment and really appreciate you taking the time! The Airspeed that you can likely see is MPH. I pitch for 80 and typically don't go much below that though sometimes 75. Sometimes I will come in a little fast but usually around 80 mph. What I was taught is for the power off stall, we go into slow flight and then pitch up to initiate the stall. The recovery on a power off stall is not first indication, so we go until the buffeting occurs or until it breaks loose. It's hard to get the C172 to this point. For the power on stall, I was taught to pull power back, then increase power to 1800 RPM to simulate take off, then pull back and recovery on first indication. I'm sure every school and CFI has a little bit of variation when it comes to teaching the maneuvers so it can be a lot of feedback from folks because it may be different than how they were taught. I'm open to all the comments/advice though because I am trying to learn as much as possible! I've also only flown with one instructor and so I'm looking forward to flying with a different one to get a different perspective on what I'm doing. Thanks again for watching and commenting!!
@@AgAviationAdventures Ah, I didn't even think about MPH. 80mph is 70kts so at the very top end of the 172S POH recommended approach speed (You'll want to check what your POH says). Even just that little 5-10mph speed difference - consistently being at 75 mph on final and 70mph on short final will really help reduce float!
You are right that each school/CFI has variation. However, they all must meet the airman certification standards (ACS). It's the rubric your checkride examiner uses to grade you as pass/fail with.
For power-off stalls, yes you can enter from slow flight for practice, but during your checkride it will be important to do it exactly per the ACS.
For power-off stalls, this would include:
- Establishing a stabilized descent (PA.VII.B.S4 in the ACS). So you will want to begin a descent before pitching up to initiate the stall.
- Full stall (PA.VII.B.S7). You are already doing this, perfect! For reference, AC 120-109 defines full and impending stalls.
For slow flight you will want to be sure to fly at an airspeed that will not trigger the stall warning horn. Per PA.VII.A.S3, "Establish and maintain an airspeed at which any further increase in angle of attack, increase in load factor, or reduction in power, would result in a stall warning (e.g., airplane buffet, stall horn, etc.)."
And for power on stalls you are correct that a lower power setting can be used to simulate full power. However in PA.VII.C.S4, it says "Set power (as assigned by the evaluator) to no less than 65 percent power". I need to brush up on this, but at a glance, the 172S POH, at 1718' elevation of KMDS, on a cold day, you should need around 2400rpm to make 69% of max continuous power. It will be different for your aircraft and altitude (see performance chart) but it's likely that 1800rpm is quite a bit lower than what is needed to meet the ACS for a power-on stall. You also don't get a true experience of a power-on stall at that low of a power setting. Here at Cessna in Wichita where I fly the 172, we all, including our test pilots, use full power for power-on stalls. Lastly on the power-on stalls, you'll want to go to a full stall, not just first indication per the ACS.
I say all this not to try and critique your CFI (I'm not one yet myself!). The ACS on slow flight also recently changed in 2017 to this new method, so she may just not be aware. We all have blind spots and I learned some things while looking this stuff up to respond. I'd just hate for you to 1. get used to flying it not per ACS and 2. get to your checkride and they ding you for not doing it per ACS. I hate bringing this up to CFIs, but a good CFI is always quick to recognize they don't know everything, and always willing to learn.
Sorry to "chapter and verse you" so much, haha. These little differences are there for reasons and will help ensure you pass your checkride and be the best pilot you can be! I'm going out tomorrow to get my flight review done and noticed I have been doing some of these maneuvers not per ACS, so this has been beneficial for me to learn too!
Appreciate all the help!! I think you will be a phenomenal instructor!
You're being way too hard on yourself, you are doing really well on landings. Took me ages to stop that little balloon when you pull back too much, then bang the nosewheel down haha
Thanks so much!! Appreciate the comment.
Where's your new operation going to be based ?
South Central North Dakota!