I'm an Oilers fan, and far be it from me to suggest the Steve Dangle Podcast is anything but a stealth Oilers podcast. I love listening to your coverage of the Oilers, because not only is it consistent, it's always intriguing because it comes from a slightly different perspective.
@@boomboom-hi5np I would have a blast cheering against them, but if the Leafs ever won anything, I would feel happy for Steve. I can consistently cheer against the Leafs and still have empathy for someone who has experienced constant frustration in cheering for their hockey team. I can relate. Still won't cheer for them though.
As an Oilers lifer stop listening to the loud few trolls on the internet, i have been watching steve and the podcast for 10 years and have been happy and loved the podcast, dont label us all as complainers its just a couple of people doing it because it gets a rise out of you guys. You're doing a great job covering my team. Sure, we disagree sometimes, but that's hockey baby, keep on doing your thing guys!
I feel like you put Staples in there out of a personal dislike of him. He's doesnt even do interviews. The Edmonton Journal guys are some of the only good Oilers media
Agree with the responder above me; David Staples, Kurt Leavins, and Bruce McCurdy run the Cult of Hockey, which is easily the most reasonable analysis of the team you'll find outside of maybe Gregor. McCurdy is especially very solid, and I wish he had Matty's role.
Not gonna lie, i think Babcock has let the game pass him by. I know there is the argument that players have gone soft but there still needs to be a line drawn in the sand. What he did with Marner and Jenner as examples are just gross. No coach should be doing that
That was me who asked the Angel Hernandez question at BP lol. Thank you for signing my jacket and making the time to chat. Really appreciate it and looking forward to the next live event
Loving the Mr Dressup shirt. That was a benefit of growing up near buffalo. When I've described it to others who haven't seen it they think I was on drugs.
Just one small correction for those curious. Tennis and soccer do not put a chip in the ball. It is a system of cameras that track the ball and calculate where it is going, and where it is, in the space that is within the measuring parameters. It requires a lot of cameras, a really fast computer, and a strong connection between the cameras and computer. The one issue in hockey is the bodies in the way. Tennis does rely mostly on predicted path, so as long as there is enough of an entry view to simulate the trajectory, it would work, but those systems use cameras, and cameras have to see what they are looking for.
Adam obviously never dealt with a narcissist before. If your on their good side or they need something from you they're the nicest person in the world and people love them. If your on their sh*t list and they have power over you they can make your life miserable. But they'll smile in everyone's face and make you look like the crazy one for not liking them. I'm not suprised Babcock has lots of guys who love him, they're all people he can use for a favor. I worked for a narcissist for 3 years and no one believe me when I told them the things that person did, not even HR. Now that I have a new job my former coworker is seeing what I saw cuz she's on the list now.
Bro…. Angel Hernandez ejected fans and once yelled at Bernie Mac for calling out the umpiring during the 7th inning stretch. He definitely made it about Angel sometimes
On your guys' discussion about how much fan engagement there is between the city of Edmonton and the Oilers: Our local paper, the Edmonton Journal, literally has a separate sports segment for Oilers analysis called the Cult Of Hockey, which has been running since about 2010. They call it that because it is pretty much at cult-following levels of madness inside these city limits.
I'm still salty about Bennett's Knies hit. Playoff hockey, etc., but that was particularly bad. Don't give the kid CTE off the bat - plenty of time for that. (dark chuckle)
In a discussion about top coaches in the league right now, I'm not sure how you can leave Andrew Brunette out. He starts as a replacement in Florida and goes on to win the President's trophy. He leaves and Florida barely squeaks in as a playoff team, goes to New Jersey and takes a number four lottery team, turns them into a number two in the entire league, leaves Jersey, they fall back into a lottery team. Goes to Nashville who is expected to be bottom middle of the division and gets them in as the number one wild card and gets an Adams nomination for it as well. So clearly he needs to be on an extremely short list of anybody that we're talking about as a top coach in the league right now.
I loved the Game 4 Oilers-Stars stream. Lots of fun energy and clearly was well received. At the end, we had a 850 member audience or there abouts and still got to 600 likes to get a Jesse appearance.
My top ten NHL coaches this season: 1. Tocchet 2. Brunette 3. Bednar (go avs go) 4. Cooper 5. Montgomery 6. Rick Bowness 7. Pete Deboer 8. Torts 9. Knoblauch 10. Maurice
Leafs fans should never question why players don't give the team a discount - they ran them through hell with the type of person they had in the front office
I think it was Laroque that was talking about Edmonton media and how they would lie to the players about interviews and what was said just to get a Battle of Alberta fight happening
Regarding October start, I will also say that I don’t really start paying attention to hockey until WS is over. NFL is a once a weekly commitment that I don’t follow nearly as closely as I once did. So I wouldn’t be watching that closely for the first month of the season. But I do think there is a lot of sense in starting the season early.
For Adam's disbelief that coaches are still willing to ally themselves with a person who says and does awful things, I'd like to introduce him to the entire Donald Trump voter base.
Oiler fan bias here I’m not saying he is top 5 and I do understand that he only has 3/4 of a season coaching in the nhl. However I’m a tad butthurt knobby wasn’t mentioned even in an honorable mention
As someone who is a fan of teams like the Lakers and Barcelona (also Bayern Munich), I can confidently tell you that NO ONE of any legit quality really wants to coach any one of those teams currently. All three are an absolute mess right now when it comes to their meddling management getting in the way on top of the media pressure that comes w/those markets. The fact that the Lakers are more than likely going to hire JJ Redick, a guy who has NO coaching exp and is currently a co-host of a podcast alongside LeBron James as well as a color commentator for ESPN, and Bayern hiring someone like Vincent Kompany who just got his Burnley team RELEGATED from the Premier League this season, shows you how much trouble teams of their PRESTIGE have had attracting anyone to coach them. Barcelona did just recently hire Hansi Flick, who is a quality manager, but it came off the heels of one of the most disrespectful firings of a club legend that I have ever seen that led to a massive PR disaster amongst fans and media.
The thing that pisses ppl off about Nurse is, you get him p!ssed off enough? He turns into an animal, crushing hits, moving the puck with speed, and being an offensive threat. But then, there are the other 80 games every year.
32:38, and the Oilers coach is not discussed because I mean when he took over it was just one of the worst years in Edmonton … I remember sdpn find it uncomfortable to talk about talk about Edmonton coaching…😊
No Knoblauch love for top coach? Don’t think he is top 5 (yet at least) but could’ve at least gotten a shoutout. Completely changed team defense, PK, and overall success for Oilers this year. Not even a playoff team without him.
If you could, would you change Marner for Anton Lundell? Lundells playing awesome playoff and is only 22 yrs old. And has been under the wing of Alexander the Great aka Sasha Barkov.
I really miss his humor here in Winnipeg, always enjoyed his personality. The entire Babcock story exemplifies the problem in hockey, that he is still consulted by other coaches. He is toxic, and he will make others toxic too.
Honestly It must've been terrible for Mitch because its also from Bozak and Kadri's VIEW (maybe) "WHO the eff (and they didnt say eff) does this kid think he is? We've been on this dog poop team for YEARS! Shut the eff up rookie." Seriously both Kadri and Bozak were on the 09-10 Leafs team and became regulars in 2011 with a stint with the Marlies for Kadri.
List of people who've said the Toronto Maple Leafs Media is more difficult than the rest of the League: 1) Players 2) Coaches (Current & Ex Coaches, from all around the League) 3) NHL Insiders & Panelists 4) Players Families 5) Fans List of people who've said the Toronto Maple Leafs Media is NOT more difficult than the rest of the League: 1) Toronto Maple Leafs Podcasters (Who have made their careers yelling and screaming about the Toronto Maple Leafs, who choose a different player each month to try and run out of town and indirectly/unintentionally encourage their ravenous followers to collectively cyber bully said player & their family) Sure, Jan.... Thanks for another episode of ''. 🤣
It makes sense for PWHL to play in summer. In general, summer is dead for all sports but baseball. None of the other big 5 male sports are in season. If WNBA capitalizes on its popularity with Clark and PWHL moves to summer, it would provide more sports to watch during this time.
The fact that Leaves fans are upset with Marner for not performing in the playoffs when literally no one on that team fills a jersey during the playoffs is ridiculous. Phil Kessel level travesty.
Steve couldn’t be more wrong about the goalie interference call last night. The puck was loose AND Mikkola was hooked which caused him to hit Shesterkin. Literally go back and watch the replay. The refs made the right call
On Babcock. It's possible that Montgomery and the other coaches are looking to him for hockey advice. You can have the philosophy correct but not the execution of said philosophy
@@RukaRadebeStormy has already admitted and signed a letter stating nothing happened between them. Supreme court will throw it out one way or another, theres a laundry list of avenues it can go.
As an Oilers fan Almost every single Oilers fan I know despises the idiots like Mark Spector and Jason Gregor . They make Toronto look like a cakewalk, and they love to run players they don’t like out of town . So Bieksa was right about everything
On the Mitch Topic. Fine, let him play out the season with Berube, alright. Then if they do anything remotely good, and he is a shining star, and his attitude completely flips to he is professional, then consider resigning him.
I haven’t watched the Eastern conference as closely as the West. What are the flaws in the Panthers? I’ve watched every game (just not as glued to the screen) and I don’t really see any clear flaws in the Panthers. Rangers have plenty of flaws. So do the Stars. And Oilers definitely have flaws too (goalie the most glaring but individual defensive miscues and poor d man pairings definitely can show up too). Any Panther fans want to tell me what they see as their team’s flaws?
How did we get here? HOW DID WE GET HERE?!?!? #88. That's how we got here. It was NEVER sustainable to have this many guys making this money. And somewhere along the line someone made the decision that sacrificing Marner later is worth giving Nylander everything he wants every time, immediately. That's how!
I'm an Oilers fan, and far be it from me to suggest the Steve Dangle Podcast is anything but a stealth Oilers podcast. I love listening to your coverage of the Oilers, because not only is it consistent, it's always intriguing because it comes from a slightly different perspective.
if the Leafs were in the conference final, the only Canadian team left, would you cheer for them?
@@boomboom-hi5npyes. It would kill us emotionally, but yes, we would.
@LARGO125 no true oilers fans would cheer for the leafs.
@@boomboom-hi5np I would have a blast cheering against them, but if the Leafs ever won anything, I would feel happy for Steve. I can consistently cheer against the Leafs and still have empathy for someone who has experienced constant frustration in cheering for their hockey team. I can relate. Still won't cheer for them though.
@@boomboom-hi5npId cheer for them in the semis and cheer against them in the finals for maximum pain
As an Oilers lifer stop listening to the loud few trolls on the internet, i have been watching steve and the podcast for 10 years and have been happy and loved the podcast, dont label us all as complainers its just a couple of people doing it because it gets a rise out of you guys. You're doing a great job covering my team. Sure, we disagree sometimes, but that's hockey baby, keep on doing your thing guys!
You guys might be one of the best for oilers coverage. So many content creators are ignoring the WCF its kinda nuts
Bieksa aimed straight at Spector, Staples, and Matheson and every Oilers fan I know LOVES him for it.
I feel like you put Staples in there out of a personal dislike of him. He's doesnt even do interviews. The Edmonton Journal guys are some of the only good Oilers media
Agree with the responder above me; David Staples, Kurt Leavins, and Bruce McCurdy run the Cult of Hockey, which is easily the most reasonable analysis of the team you'll find outside of maybe Gregor. McCurdy is especially very solid, and I wish he had Matty's role.
He most certainly did not “aim” at Mr. Staples. Him and Buh-roooooooossssssssss are rock solid. Anyone not making minimum wage understands that.
Staples is an absolute legend
Not gonna lie, i think Babcock has let the game pass him by. I know there is the argument that players have gone soft but there still needs to be a line drawn in the sand. What he did with Marner and Jenner as examples are just gross. No coach should be doing that
That was me who asked the Angel Hernandez question at BP lol. Thank you for signing my jacket and making the time to chat. Really appreciate it and looking forward to the next live event
as an oiler fan the team has every right to be fed up with the local media
Loving the Mr Dressup shirt. That was a benefit of growing up near buffalo. When I've described it to others who haven't seen it they think I was on drugs.
When Adam grunted all I could think of was the scene from family guy where Peter just sits in his chair and makes dad noises lmao
Just one small correction for those curious. Tennis and soccer do not put a chip in the ball. It is a system of cameras that track the ball and calculate where it is going, and where it is, in the space that is within the measuring parameters. It requires a lot of cameras, a really fast computer, and a strong connection between the cameras and computer.
The one issue in hockey is the bodies in the way. Tennis does rely mostly on predicted path, so as long as there is enough of an entry view to simulate the trajectory, it would work, but those systems use cameras, and cameras have to see what they are looking for.
Adam obviously never dealt with a narcissist before. If your on their good side or they need something from you they're the nicest person in the world and people love them. If your on their sh*t list and they have power over you they can make your life miserable. But they'll smile in everyone's face and make you look like the crazy one for not liking them. I'm not suprised Babcock has lots of guys who love him, they're all people he can use for a favor.
I worked for a narcissist for 3 years and no one believe me when I told them the things that person did, not even HR. Now that I have a new job my former coworker is seeing what I saw cuz she's on the list now.
I love it when the episode starts with grunting 😂
Adam always says he's a caveman. I don't think anyone disputes it. 😂
"Swept the category 34-0." Jesse with the KO blow 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hilarious that Bozak and Kadri were on the Marner list and went off to win cups lol
16 hour work day. Fresh zza. Fresh pod. LETS GOO
10:50 Adam's " shut up I'm talking " left arm pops up.
as a jets fan I can confirm pomo as a long-standing paul maurice nickname
Sam Bennett has been so good this series
Last night was his best game as a panther
Elbows and offense.... Bennett is a beast.
Will you guys do any coverage of your bracket challenge? Would be cool to see how people are doing and where brackets got derailed
Love the Mr. Dress up shirt, the theme song is my ringtone
Retro Kid in Ontario
Jesse: hey guys make a list it's easy
Adam and Steve: *screeching*
I think Jacob Trouba is gonna make an excellent Maple Leaf
Poor Jesse's just like "for pete sake this is supposed to be a short! LIST THE DAMN COACHES ALREADY!"
I think you have covered Oilers enough and well as an Oilers fan. This is the main podcast I go to for hockey. Huge fan of you guys!
Bro…. Angel Hernandez ejected fans and once yelled at Bernie Mac for calling out the umpiring during the 7th inning stretch.
He definitely made it about Angel sometimes
On your guys' discussion about how much fan engagement there is between the city of Edmonton and the Oilers: Our local paper, the Edmonton Journal, literally has a separate sports segment for Oilers analysis called the Cult Of Hockey, which has been running since about 2010. They call it that because it is pretty much at cult-following levels of madness inside these city limits.
Jesse, a huge bag of free food tennis balls would make me excited to this day!!! So much potential
So true about the Ranger's mindset. They do this every playoff
I'm still salty about Bennett's Knies hit. Playoff hockey, etc., but that was particularly bad. Don't give the kid CTE off the bat - plenty of time for that. (dark chuckle)
Babs is the Tony Soprano of Hockey coaches, but without the humour
That coaches segment was so rough I was almost thankful the podcast was interrupted by an ad.
In a discussion about top coaches in the league right now, I'm not sure how you can leave Andrew Brunette out. He starts as a replacement in Florida and goes on to win the President's trophy. He leaves and Florida barely squeaks in as a playoff team, goes to New Jersey and takes a number four lottery team, turns them into a number two in the entire league, leaves Jersey, they fall back into a lottery team. Goes to Nashville who is expected to be bottom middle of the division and gets them in as the number one wild card and gets an Adams nomination for it as well. So clearly he needs to be on an extremely short list of anybody that we're talking about as a top coach in the league right now.
MInnesota winnig also makes it, Minnesota team finally winning something
Thanks Maddy for cutting away from the nose fondling as quick as you do.
You guys are the best. Keep it up fellas.
I loved the Game 4 Oilers-Stars stream. Lots of fun energy and clearly was well received. At the end, we had a 850 member audience or there abouts and still got to 600 likes to get a Jesse appearance.
If he didn't jump on top of Mikkola and start punching him, he wouldn't have been tossed, Steve.
Steve's takes are sometimes really embarrassing
I think abt one thing, the NHL started with 6 teams. And the PWHL doing the same thing seems to be a good plan
Gripper Nation Alive and Well
My top ten NHL coaches this season:
1. Tocchet
2. Brunette
3. Bednar (go avs go)
4. Cooper
5. Montgomery
6. Rick Bowness
7. Pete Deboer
8. Torts
9. Knoblauch
10. Maurice
And then Dallas came out and got absolutely crushed from start to finish😂😂
That’s why they call him playoff Sam Bennett, he turns into Jack the Ripper
Leafs fans should never question why players don't give the team a discount - they ran them through hell with the type of person they had in the front office
The fact how people reacted to the "real NHL"-quote kind of proves it lol
I think it was Laroque that was talking about Edmonton media and how they would lie to the players about interviews and what was said just to get a Battle of Alberta fight happening
Steve LOVE the shirt
Regarding October start, I will also say that I don’t really start paying attention to hockey until WS is over. NFL is a once a weekly commitment that I don’t follow nearly as closely as I once did. So I wouldn’t be watching that closely for the first month of the season. But I do think there is a lot of sense in starting the season early.
Hey Jessie, I don't think it takes a "genius" to figure out that a good way to kill some time off the clock is to pin the puck against the boards.
So Adam's a gripper and a grunter?
For Adam's disbelief that coaches are still willing to ally themselves with a person who says and does awful things, I'd like to introduce him to the entire Donald Trump voter base.
What is everyone's number if Dubas doesn't overpay Tavares??
Mathews is the same. Everyone else is 8mil
Jesse's GOLF shirt is crazy
Im older than Steve and Adam... and understand Jesse was trying to clip the coaches list... for shorts.... but they had no clue.
OR...Angel Hernandez got the call wrong (again) and is not in fact retiring.
Pete “always a bridemaid’ DeBoer
One man's give away is another man's take away
Oiler fan bias here
I’m not saying he is top 5 and I do understand that he only has 3/4 of a season coaching in the nhl. However I’m a tad butthurt knobby wasn’t mentioned even in an honorable mention
Mike Francesa no longer has an app. He has a podcast sponsored on Bet Rivers which is essentially the same as his old talk show except no callers
Can you imagine if Maurice had stayed with Toronto this whole time? Lol
In all of this elite coach discussion, how do you not include Laviolette? How many coaches brought different teams to the finals?
Woof
As someone who is a fan of teams like the Lakers and Barcelona (also Bayern Munich), I can confidently tell you that NO ONE of any legit quality really wants to coach any one of those teams currently. All three are an absolute mess right now when it comes to their meddling management getting in the way on top of the media pressure that comes w/those markets. The fact that the Lakers are more than likely going to hire JJ Redick, a guy who has NO coaching exp and is currently a co-host of a podcast alongside LeBron James as well as a color commentator for ESPN, and Bayern hiring someone like Vincent Kompany who just got his Burnley team RELEGATED from the Premier League this season, shows you how much trouble teams of their PRESTIGE have had attracting anyone to coach them. Barcelona did just recently hire Hansi Flick, who is a quality manager, but it came off the heels of one of the most disrespectful firings of a club legend that I have ever seen that led to a massive PR disaster amongst fans and media.
1:27:35 I’m gonna fight back on this a little bit. Ex Yankees have 100% came out and said similar things about playing in New York
But why Shanahan, having witnessed this firsthand I. Detroit, decided to hire Babcock in the first place?
The thing that pisses ppl off about Nurse is, you get him p!ssed off enough? He turns into an animal, crushing hits, moving the puck with speed, and being an offensive threat. But then, there are the other 80 games every year.
Add me to the list of people loving the Mr. Dressup shirt
32:38, and the Oilers coach is not discussed because I mean when he took over it was just one of the worst years in Edmonton … I remember sdpn find it uncomfortable to talk about talk about Edmonton coaching…😊
Top 3 talked about in order 1 toronto, 2 Arizona, 3 edmonton 😅
No Knoblauch love for top coach? Don’t think he is top 5 (yet at least) but could’ve at least gotten a shoutout. Completely changed team defense, PK, and overall success for Oilers this year. Not even a playoff team without him.
To answer the Hernandez question. CHRIS CAKSUCKING ROONEY
If you could, would you change Marner for Anton Lundell? Lundells playing awesome playoff and is only 22 yrs old. And has been under the wing of Alexander the Great aka Sasha Barkov.
51:50 also an important edmonton goal , their coach made the call to put Perry back in , oh and I believe McLeod… Just saying
The gorillar!!!
I thought the puck was loose, definitely a little extra but i thought it was a good call
I really miss his humor here in Winnipeg, always enjoyed his personality. The entire Babcock story exemplifies the problem in hockey, that he is still consulted by other coaches. He is toxic, and he will make others toxic too.
Honestly It must've been terrible for Mitch because its also from Bozak and Kadri's VIEW (maybe) "WHO the eff (and they didnt say eff) does this kid think he is? We've been on this dog poop team for YEARS! Shut the eff up rookie." Seriously both Kadri and Bozak were on the 09-10 Leafs team and became regulars in 2011 with a stint with the Marlies for Kadri.
List of people who've said the Toronto Maple Leafs Media is more difficult than the rest of the League:
1) Players
2) Coaches (Current & Ex Coaches, from all around the League)
3) NHL Insiders & Panelists
4) Players Families
5) Fans
List of people who've said the Toronto Maple Leafs Media is NOT more difficult than the rest of the League:
1) Toronto Maple Leafs Podcasters (Who have made their careers yelling and screaming about the Toronto Maple Leafs, who choose a different player each month to try and run out of town and indirectly/unintentionally encourage their ravenous followers to collectively cyber bully said player & their family)
Sure, Jan.... Thanks for another episode of ''. 🤣
It makes sense for PWHL to play in summer. In general, summer is dead for all sports but baseball. None of the other big 5 male sports are in season. If WNBA capitalizes on its popularity with Clark and PWHL moves to summer, it would provide more sports to watch during this time.
The thing about babs is this, if being a dick gets you a cup, you’re a better coach than a guy who doesn’t win a cup.
The fact that Leaves fans are upset with Marner for not performing in the playoffs when literally no one on that team fills a jersey during the playoffs is ridiculous. Phil Kessel level travesty.
Theres atill another round. Florida fizzled last year.
Also no one tries as hard as Florida.
Steve couldn’t be more wrong about the goalie interference call last night. The puck was loose AND Mikkola was hooked which caused him to hit Shesterkin. Literally go back and watch the replay. The refs made the right call
On Babcock. It's possible that Montgomery and the other coaches are looking to him for hockey advice. You can have the philosophy correct but not the execution of said philosophy
1:43:40 Jesse with the subtle Trump dig. Love it.
The whole Babcock segment could be about Trump tbh. What does he have to do to stop having people support him etc
@@RukaRadebeStormy has already admitted and signed a letter stating nothing happened between them. Supreme court will throw it out one way or another, theres a laundry list of avenues it can go.
Hmm they want to be in NY but took away the team that actually played in the state (RIP Buffalo Beauts)
Bring back the Beauts!!
Hamilton part of next PWHL expansion???!?! thoughts?
As an Oilers fan
Almost every single Oilers fan I know despises the idiots like Mark Spector and Jason Gregor . They make Toronto look like a cakewalk, and they love to run players they don’t like out of town .
So Bieksa was right about everything
Adam I love you,however ima nitpick💚 nurse backpassdd to scorey Perry and McLeod picked up the loose change
On the Mitch Topic.
Fine, let him play out the season with Berube, alright. Then if they do anything remotely good, and he is a shining star, and his attitude completely flips to he is professional, then consider resigning him.
I don’t care how nice Sam Bennett, Brad Marchand, Jamie Benn, etc. are, if you try to hurt someone on or off the ice you’re a pos.
Wrong
Put ny in utica. That will do awesome.
I haven’t watched the Eastern conference as closely as the West. What are the flaws in the Panthers? I’ve watched every game (just not as glued to the screen) and I don’t really see any clear flaws in the Panthers. Rangers have plenty of flaws. So do the Stars. And Oilers definitely have flaws too (goalie the most glaring but individual defensive miscues and poor d man pairings definitely can show up too). Any Panther fans want to tell me what they see as their team’s flaws?
where does the intro music come from
Lil Jon
The Real NHL
Re: the Babcock/Marner contract stuff, this feels like Adam making excuses for Dubas. He wasn't a good GM guys
RANK EM
How did we get here? HOW DID WE GET HERE?!?!? #88. That's how we got here. It was NEVER sustainable to have this many guys making this money. And somewhere along the line someone made the decision that sacrificing Marner later is worth giving Nylander everything he wants every time, immediately. That's how!
You guys should wipe the boogers off the TV screen on the set.
Fuller
all the nhl has to do is not have games on sunday
Imagine trying to put Adam Fox and Quinn Hughes in the same class as Cale Makar.