The Cult of Hockey's "Oilers closing in on hockey history with huge win" podcast
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
- Let's do this! The Cult of Hockey podcast. By the Faithful and for the Faithful, tonight with Bruce McCurdy and David Staples. Tonight they dig into Edmonton's 5-1 win over the Panthers of Florida with their 2 Good Things, 2 Bad Things, 2 Numbers and 1 Conundrum podcast
Faithful German listener since 2017...we want the cup!
Welcome, from Calgary.
Living in enemy territory since 1999. :>
To say I'm Proud of these Oilers is an understatement of the century.
Oilers are like the Genius kid given new puzzles every series... once they figure you out you're in Deep Trouble.... done it every series.
Yeah exactly! Been thinking that if they win the cup, it won’t ultimately be McDavid or the star player, defensive game, penalty kill.. it will be their problem solving through every series
I remember all the Oilers Cups in the past, but this would be the Cup for the ages. Win the next game, and this team will live forever in the minds of all Edmontonians…and many Canadians.
Why do I get the feeling , a lot of Canadians ( who are hockey fans) outside Alberta don't give a fk if Edmonton wins the cup.
I'll even go one further... they would love nothing more than game #7 goes into OT and Panthers score. I could be wrong.
GO OILERS GO 🕺💥🕺🤸♂️💥🕺💥💥🚨🚨
@@Siggi395i know some toronto fans who are feeling that way.
@@Siggi395Who gives a f#$k about eastern Canada, the country's armpit. In the wdst we have a saying: The only thing good that comes out of the east is the sun.
@@billybobjoe6180Of course. Torontonians have their heads stuck so far up their a$$es that they still believe they're the center of the universe.
@jimgrady8004 Are you kidding?....Vancouver despises us , even Calgary despises us.
I'm originally from Lethbridge ( Lethbridge loves Oilers)... can't stand Flames.
I remember going to Calgary when Gretzky was in his prime.... I was having breakfast at a Denny's on Macleod Trail, I overhead two senior citizens at a table..." that Wayne Gretzky guy?... I guess he's not thaaaat bad"......I just about spit out my coffee. This was just after he scored 50 in 39. 😂🤣😂
I've been in E-town for close to 30 years now. Love the city.
I remember last year and start of this year David Staples saying if the Oilers dedicate themselves to defensive hockey they can win the Stanley Cup. Looks like he was dead on! Monday could be one of the greatest days in all our lives! Lets go!
If the Oilers win game 7, there are no bad things.
That’s where your wrong, no one is absolved around here
@@jj66699*you're
Whoever wins, the bad thing is the lack of time between the end of the SCF and the draft and free agency. They gotta start and finish the season at least a week earlier. League not absolved there. Imagine winning a cup and then telling your teammates seven days later, and maybe 1-2 days after a parade, that you've signed with another team.
Agreed. Was it always like this? I didn't notice as we never make it deeo enough in the playoffs to effect us lmao@joetoh6675
Keep on cheering Edmonton fans! OILERS in 7! BELIEVE.
Great pod cast. Great game. Great day to be an Oilers Fan!
Ysp.
Janmark even looks like Esa Tikkanen, so much so I thought he was a Fin (partly because he plays like one).
One game at a time...next game is another game, forget what happens to whoever wins at the end, the path to winning must be the focal point, not the Cup at the end. Win the game and the Cup comes naturally.
Agreed. It’s so hard not to be optimistic of next game and ride this momentum but can’t think like that. Let’s celebrate when it’s done.
On a lighter note, no matter what happens, we should all be so damned proud of our team. They took us on a roller coaster ride this season and I for one was in awe so many times. What an amazing team we have.
"Any team that can go 16-0 can get it done" I said after game 3. I also said Oilers in 6 or 7 before the series started. All the Oilers have to do is play hard and smart, don't overhype it, stay very focused and have some fun. An amazing amazing season for the ages if they close it.
YAASSSSSSSSSSSS Keep it going Oilers I'm actually crying at how inspirational their comeback from being down 3-0 is 😭 its absolutely incredible 😭. Make Bill Zito toss another Dasani bottle in the luxury suite as you hoist the cup!!!!!!!!! This just goes to show you can silence haters anytime by never giving up!!!!!!! GO OILERS GO 🥳🥳🥳
Let's go Oilers!
Turning point of the series when the hockey gods came to the aid of the oilers was game 4 first period ...panthers hit the post and cross bar on the powerplay and shortly after brown races up the ice to get the short handed goal. From that moment on edmoton has been on fire 🔥
I agree and thought at the time that this was the TSN turning point of the series.
Hopefully the hockey gods are enjoying the ride on our wagon. Had to chuckle that Bruce and his wife couldn't eat before the game.
I won’t gloat yet Staples. Jobs not done.
Always a pleasure Mr. McCurddy.
You’re still on notice David.
Thanks for the upload fellas. Appreciate your time.
I like what the Oilers say right after the game, things like ‘this just allows us to play another game’ and it will be a hard game!
A fantastic game, great work guys
Go oilers…
Perth, Australia 🇦🇺
If oilers pull off the most remarkable comeback in nhl history , we deserve the longest Bruccccccccccce in cult of hockeys history
I think the fans toward the end of the game kept the Panthers from getting going again. Man, they were deflated at the end
I’m very glad Bruce mentioned RNH on the defensive side of this game. I would say without his heroics we wouldn’t have won game 6.
Oilers hired George Mumford, one of the best Sports psychologists in the world. He was part of all Phil Jackson's championship teams (Chicago Bulls , Lakers). So advantage to the oil.
This team is so much quicker with broberg on the back end. Already gone past nurse in the depth chart. Keep it going boys. Go oilers and what ever the case thanks to all the players and administration for great memorable season!! From Australia 🇦🇺
As proud I am of this team I’m just as proud of this fan base. I’ve lived in Vancouver for 15 years but I’ve watched every single Oil game since I left. I went to game 6 and walking down jasper the fan response was awesome-inspiring. I love this team. One more win and we’ve achieved immortality. Let’s do it boys.
David had more confidence in game 20 of the regular season last year than he did this whole series lol
When you have a team that instills, tolerates and encourages embellishment, this bad culture make the team more mentally fragile.
Sports Psychology. I think the Oilers are truly driven by the belief they can win with effort, skill. The Panthers have a more negative, volatile aura around them starting from their GM. The Panthers are saying the right things but i dont see it in their tone, body language etc.
This doesnt mean Game 7 will be a cake walk for the Oil, but when the margins are so fine, i give the psychological edge to them. Their ups and downs of this whole season and all the talk about their use of sports psychologists, Knoblauchs style of even keeled coaching. I believe they will come out and be laser focused on just winning one more game!
Good points. Plus, McDavid's leadership, not just on the ice. And, the pain of losing to the eventual champs the last two years, which was almost as educational as losing the cup finals.
I predict the ice for Game 7 will be the worst in NHL history, in an attempt to handicap the Oilers' superior speed, and dare I say, talent. Home slush advantage. Are there specifications for ice quality in the rule book? Oilers have to go to Fla. early to practice on it and be ready for anything.
The oilers so far have overcome the biggest obstacle of all. The Jack Jinx
Been watching you guys for years and so happy we are going to 7. Keep up the great work boys.
I hope they can do it. They've come a long way.
Best oilers pod online
Besides goaltending, the biggest thing I’ve noticed is that we are much quicker than Florida. As such, our transition game out of the defensive zone, including those long stretch passes has Florida wondering whether they should be aggressive on the forecheck or back off… well, of course that indecisiveness doesn’t work. And Florida has won based on their forecheck so I can see why this is not working well for them. We are also a lot better behind our own net.
Oilers have to be ready for all possible modifications to the Panthers forecheck.
It's anyone's cup in Game 7. What more could fans hope for? I believe Lord Stanley is going to reside in Canada over the coming year. Best of luck to Edmonton!
I was going to busk on Whyte, but the Cult has given me my excuse not to!
Allow me to amend my last statement I made here after game 3. I felt it was Florida's time to win the Cup and gave reasons for it. I felt injuries caught up with the Oilers and they will learn from it and will eventually win a Cup. Now, im saying forget everything I said because the Oiler are going to win the Cup! They have found a way to stop what Florida does best, their relentless forechecking game. They are the team winning puck battles, every board battles, and special teams battles. They have the greatest hockey player in the world and are easily beating a worn-out Bobrovski! This is the greatest comeback I have witnessed in the greatest game!
Thanks Bruce for the details on the defensive play of Nuge and Bouch! And Hyman's numbers -- yeah, playoff goals weigh so much more then reg season ones. And Davo's non-numbers this game -- seems like he's playing decoy, keeping the best defenders away from defending other Oilers while not generating Panther offence.
I believe and I’m praying we can win the cup….the whole Canadian nation is praying the oilers will win the cup on Monday!
The historic playoff goals, assists, etc. should also be considered on a per game basis. Of course if a team loses, its players have more games to put up numbers.
While GYB Podcast gives good views "closer to the ice" from former NHLers, thank you COH for your digging and collating to be second to none for overviews, including historic context, of whatever happens on the ice.
Bruce: "My wife and I were too nervous to eat before the game." ... Aww....that's too adorable. GO OILERS
Go Oilers Go!!! 💙🧡
I really love Bouchard’s game. He’s playing a tougher game and he’s a big dude. His defence has also improved considerably. He’s making smart plays and decisively. He can chip the puck off the boards and around an opponent, or he can hit one of our guys with a stretch pass or just a crisp, tape to tape pass. Janmark too is a big-ish dude and you’re right, he doesn’t back down. He held his own in a scrap with Domi and he’s certainly not afraid of Tkachuk. Every player on this team will be a hot commodity when contract time comes around. Now, the biggest thing on my mind is game 7, 2006. Please don’t let it happen again! The Oilers are an excellent team that should be able to overcome but I know that anything could happen in one game.
Was gonna give a thumbs up, but saw u were at 99…love this podcast and ur insights
with draisaitl playing hurt the henrique brown janmark line is their second best line right now
Great podcast, guys
The Oilers' leadership makes me feel ok about the team's mental preparedness. McD looks more intense than ever, while remaining calm and clear-headed. Drai burns for this and he won't feel his injuries for the last game. Mental prep has always been big with Skinner. The team is full of maturity, experience, and hunger. The mental coach seems to be helping. The head coach is calm and rational. The whole team's been through everything this year. And they've already gone through the experience of being there but losing to the eventual champs the last two years, and they don't want that again. One shift at a time...
What possible modifications might the Panthers make to their forecheck for Gm 7, and how might each scenario be countered? I'm sure the coaches are watching hours upon hours of video on what the other side has employed this season. Fascinating to see the game to game chess match between Knoblauch and Maurice. In Gm 5, the Oil made long exit passes along the weak side boards to a forward at the Fla blueline. In Gm 6, the Panthers tried to shift their forecheck scheme quickly over to the weak side (which by that time had become the strong side), but the Oilers cycled it back again to the original strong side, thus spreading out the whole Fla forecheck, and getting it up once again to the far blueline. The lead-up to Henrique's bar&in beauty is a clear example of this (starting with Brown faking a clearing attempt with his forehand but then backhanding it the other way around Stuuu!).
p.s. Why can't Nuge shoot with weight mostly on his leading right foot like Henrique did?
Will the Panthers be extra goonish in Gm 7, especially if they fall behind? How to counter this possibility? A line-up change needed for it? Looks to me that the Oilers already have a way of dealing with it: brush the goons off and walk away, maybe with a powerplay. So I'd bet there will be no line-up changes once again. But Knoblauch knows best.
They’ll be goonish for sure. Hopefully nothing serious happens
Oh wow, "believe". What an original and interesting coda.
Long post follows. Read / Don't Read up to you. Statistics for Round 4 Cup Finals Game 6 Florida at Edmonton June 21st, 2024. These are "Base" statistics and are simply a foundation for reference not the detailed stats the Cult of Hockey compiles.
Score: Panthers 1, Edmonton 5. Series Tied 3-3. Game 7 Final in Sunrise Florida on Monday.
Edmonton Oilers
Foegele 1 Goal, 1 Primary Assist
Henrique 1 Goal
Hyman 1 Goal
McLeod 1 Goal (Empty Netter)
Nurse 1 Goal (Empty Netter)
Draisaitl 1 Primary Assist
Kulak 1 Secondary Assist
Janmark 1 Primary Assist
Ekholm 1 Secondary Assist
Nuge 1 Primary Assist
Skinner 1 Primary Assist (Empty Netter)
Broberg 1 Secondary Assist (Empty Netter)
Skinner 20 Saves on 21 Shots = .952 Save %age (Nearly Perfect) (60 mins played)
Florida Panthers
Barkov 1 Goal
Verhaeghe 1 Primary Assist
Kulikov 1 Secondary Assist
Bobrovski 16 Saves on 19 Shots = .842 Save %age (Not Great) (59 minutes played)
3 Stars: 3-Skinner (.952 Save %age and a Primary Assist), 2-Hyman (1G), Foegele (1G, 1A)
Florida Edmonton
Shots on Goal 21 21
Hits 42 21
Faceoffs Won 27 30
PP 0/3 0/2
Penalty Mins 16 18
Giveaways 11 (9 per NST) 13 (8 per NST)
Takeaways 5 (3 per NST) 18 (14 per NST)
Blocked Shots 11 (10 per NST) 22 (16 per NST)
Player TOI SOG +/- PIM Hits Blocks Giveaways Takeaways
Bouchard 23:21 3 2 0 1 2 0 2
Ekholm 22:24 1 2 0 2 2 1 1
Ceci 19:25 1 0 0 2 2 1 1
Nurse 18:14 1 2 0 3 2 0 0
Broberg 16:44 1 3 0 0 3 2 0
Kulak 16:42 1 0 0 1 2 1 0
Nuge 19:15 1 1 0 0 3 0 3
McDavid 18:58 0 1 2 0 1 1 0
Hyman 17:45 1 1 0 3 1 1 2
Draisaitl 16:40 3 1 0 0 1 0 2
Brown 15:24 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
Janmark 14:44 2 2 4 0 0 0 0
Foegele 14:40 1 1 0 0 1 0 0
Henrique 14:30 1 2 0 2 2 0 0
McLeod 13:13 4 1 10 1 0 0 0
Holloway 12:24 0 2 0 5 0 0 0
Perry 9:27 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
Ryan 8:10 0 -1 2 1 0 0 2
Oilers Faceoffs Won Lost Percent
Ryan 7 2 77.8
Henrique 7 8 46.7
McDavid 5 7 41.7
McLeod 3 2 60.0
Draisaitl 3 7 30.0
Nuge 2 0 100.0
Holloway 2 1 66.7
Brown 1 0 100.0
Panthers Faceoffs Won Lost Percent
Barkov 9 8 52.9
Stenlund 6 6 50.0
Rodrigues 4 2 66.7
Bennett 3 4 42.9
Lundell 2 6 25.0
Verhaeghe 1 0 100.0
Reinhart 1 3 25.0
Luostarinen 1 1 50.0
Just a stat note: One source has Kulak as a -1 (which is impossible, he got an assist on a goal and even if he was on ice for the one goal Florida got he'd be a zero so I set him as a zero). There are occasionally mess-up's like this, eventually they get fixed.
“I'm not too sure what the stats are on coming back from it,” Skinner said that night, “but if anyone can do it, it's the Oil.” Came back they did with records and willpower.
Tonight, Hyman overtakes Ovechkin and Crosby for the most goals in a playoffs for an active player. Ovi and Sid are no slouches. The Oilers join a rare club and they did it in a bizarre fashion. McDavid got ZERO Shots on Goal and didn't contribute to a single point yet twelve Oilers (out of 19) got on the scoreboard INCLUDING the Goalie Stuart Skinner with a PRIMARY ASSIST.
To me I noticed the Janitor, Mattias Janmark a lot. Foegele too (and Leon winced after the saucer pass to Foegele for the first goal, I noticed it on replay but maybe that was just a YEAH! kind of wince). No Forward played more than Nuge's 19:15 and it dropped off fairly quickly from there. Leon played 16:40, I mean Broberg played more than Leon, so did Kulak. Ryan did great in the dot for us (and someone wanted to trade him out for an iffy Kane, look in the mirror and slap yourself).
Stats wise this one was loads of fun. Same # of shots. Florida out hit Edmonton by over a 2-1 ratio (43 to 21). Faceoff wins were close (Florida 27, Edmonton 30). Both PK's at 100%. After that it gets interesting. Edmonton had slightly more giveaways (13 to Florida's 11) but over triple the # of takeaways (18 for Edmonton to 5 for Florida). Edmonton blocked double the # of shots (22 to 11). It's these last 2 base stats that really tell the game for me. If you're stripping or pick pocketing pucks and blocking double what your opponent is with the same # of shots on net odds are pretty good you'll win.
It's ONE GAME. Now they just need ONE MORE. That one, it's the one that matters the most. Edmonton can throw a party and Edmonton SUPPORTS their teams. When restaurants that have lounges are using the restaurants as overflow seating as the lounges are packed, take a wild guess how bouncing it was. I'm thrilled for the places that earned a lot of money during these events. They'll be packed again Monday. Merch is selling off the shelves faster than it can be gotten or stocked. The entire city seems to be into it and I'm grateful that I live in a city that cares. Win (hopefully) or Lose the boys know the city is with them. The comments made on live mics show that they are with us too. Take care all.
Edmonton is a much faster team
Thanks again for this!
@@dianedyck3474 You're welcome.
Yep. 54+16 = way more ;)
Dave / Bruce ...What's it gonna take to win Game 7?
Do you put Vinny in for Broberg?, after all you've said and identified?
A good crosscheck to McJesus and Edmonton is finished! Here's hoping!
Why do that? You must be a scared little bitch!!😂😂😂
Vancouver tried that. In fact they did it twice in the same incident.
sometimes the oiler dmen are under not much pressure and go their backhand for some reason that broberg play and nurse did it also with nobody really attacking him
Edmonton figures that if the PK can stop the Panthers then by the same token the Oilers can stop the Panthers on the 5 on 5 too.
hate to pounce on nurse but some of nurse's jittery nervous puckhandling is rubbing off on broberg also montour walked right around nurse early in the third and the puck skimmed the post it looked like ps ceci is also very jittery with the puck
You sound like me... in my 60+ years of watching the NHL, I have never been so ultra aware of a player as much as Darnell Nurse. Literally every time he gets the puck, I tell my wife " oh geez....Nurse has the puck".....I don't have enough room to tell you the stupid things he has done... the worst part, UNDER NO PRESSURE.
As far as Ceci, I don't mind him....he might be caught flat footed once in a while, but over all, he'll usually do the right , safe thing.
But Nurse?...I shudder every time he's on the ice. But then when McDavid grabs the puck, I settle back down, because you know he'll do the right thing.
Thanks for letting me vent 😂
major weakness.. highest paid D is literally the worst. Oilers would have won the cup long ago if he played as expected. We'll see if Nurse and Broberg can survive G7!
I think most Oilers fans feel the same way about 25. Since seesee got away from nurse, he been playing pretty good
Ceci is sloth fully slow. Nurse and Broberg both nearly had primary Florida assists in the last 7 minutes. Florida will try to expose these 3 if they do their homework oroperly
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dave needs to get rid of green screen or learn how to use one
it looks like that because it's AI background removal. Would not happen with a green screen.
He looks like the ghost of cup championships past.