I am a 76 year old American civil engineer living and working in Kherson, Ukraine, through the Russian military occupation and my own personal military detention and interrogation. My friend, Sergiy, a retired cop that got me out somehow, was crying when he picked me up when I got out. He said that they could have just killed me as was done to so many Ukrainians here. Now that I am out, I am starting to realize more and more how lucky I was. I am trying to work efficiently and effectively to help Ukraine win the war to the 1991 borders (anything less is not a victory) , rebuild the country and bring down the Putin/FSB regime. Vladimir Kara-Murza is a hero in the classical sense. Great discussion. Thank you and keep up the good work Times Radio. You may not remember me but you interviewed me at the very start of the war concerning what was happening in Kherson and my neighbor being killed in her apartment by a tank round.
❤Same age as you. I nearly got there to help with Paediatrics or anything, but family issues stopped me. I am so proud of what you are doing, and have survived to tell us here. May Vladimir Kara-Murza's vision unfold in all it's glory, for Russia and for all of Russia's neighbours❤. Slava Ukraini !
I am an 81 year old Canadian and I do not know whether you have ever received proper recognition or been accorded due respect for your courage. I hope you don’t mind me, a complete stranger, acknowledging both. And, because every contribution opposing brutal repression is so important, please accept my thanks.
ok I was NOT expecting this to be an interview with Kara-Murza HIMSELF! Love this guy, and was so devastated when he was arrested. So so happy he's free.
If Russia and Putin are so brutal this man would not have been released, As usual after being released he is now spitting out poison against Moscow (a usual practice of all dissidents). He is no more than faithful dog of the Western Imperialsim!
The west removed elected Ukraine president 2014 and installed puppet. Mr Zelenski is a ditactor because self proclaimed president as his term expired. Killing women & children in Iraq for the sake of democrazzy. *Putin installed real democracy in Ukraine*
They are just dreaming Even Alex Navalny realised that he can only change Russia from within and paid with his life. Believing Russia can be changed from London Hempstead is naive
If Russia became a true democracy, I believe it would very quickly become one of the top economies of Europe. There are millions of very smart, very inventive hard working citizens in Russia. I live in hope that the people of Russia get this chance soon.
I think it is naive of Kara-Murza to believe that Russia could become a "normal European country." Germany and Japan only became "normal" with occupation and new constitutions, both achieved after much slaughter. Moreover, each of those nations had a liberal tradition not too removed from their fascist period. Russia is going to need more of this kind of intervention, not less. As long as Russians see empire and conquest as part of their national identity this will repeat over and over. Kara-Murza's hope that the next time Russia is amenable to change we should "support them all we can" is really missing the point. A lot of support was given to them 30 years ago. The trade links and support only created the means for Russia to rebuild and go after Georgia and Ukraine. Trade does not change nations, it only enriches them.
@@gameburn178 Glad somebody is finally getting it. When Bush the 1st, Clintons and many more like the Cato Institute were pushing "free trade". They promised it would bring those nations closer to us. They tore down the Iron Curtain on such a promise. It was a disaster who's true roots was lowing wages in the West for the profit of a few. We had literally just witnessed the power of the Cold War. Where they were reverting to the stone age and could not compete. Due to isolation. But the greed of those in power to exploit that cheap labor too great.
@@eddietejera8179 As an Australian I often have the same doubts as you do. But in regard to this presentation, the 2 beautiful men being interviewed, and the content of conversation, I have no doubts or reservations. The content here is realistic and raw, with an honesty that is surrounded by great pain, suffering, loss, and a drive to correct terrible wrongs. There is NOTHING to fear here. You have been given a rare gift and glimpse here into how many a Russian mind will be released from the shackles of control and thus liberated to truly breath the free air, and still remain beautifully Russian.
@@Roger-go6jc unfortunately Ukraine was used and sacrificed to divide and break up the German Russian alliance that was built since the 1960s. Germany engineering and cheap Russian energy was too much for the west to handle. You think America, Victoria Nuland, Biden Obama care about Ukrainians? Theirs 600,000 Ukrainian solders dead and billions upon billions in lost weaponry armaments that ultimately made many people rich and resulted in nothing good for Ukraine. No NATO on Russian borders is what USA or any logical country would want for itself. Putin had a treaty all along and the British made sure Zelensky didn’t sign it. I remember maidan coup, Azov battalion, Banderites, right sector, C13 and Neo Nazis in that coup and in military. Slavic gentiles at war with Slavic gentiles is what they’ve wanted all along.
These men are inspirational! I’m ashamed of and horrified by my countrymen in the US who voted for fascism. I’m heartsick. I’m grateful for others trying to fill in the gaps for our loss in this fight. Thanks for carrying on this important mission!
Just remember you’re not alone! Many Americans such as myself are sickened by the homegrown fascists that were willingly voted in by so many of our fellow citizens! Hopefully if we all speak our minds and stand up to these authoritarians we will only have four years of this mess!
Yeah, ok. Trump was President from 2016-2020 if you forgot. Objectively these were great years for the US (up until COVID). Nothing that Trump’s did during his first term was remotely fascist. You just didn’t agree with it. Trump Derangement System is clearly a thing though. If your heart doesn’t get better soon, try turning off MSNBC.
Fascism? Imagine if us silly bums in the West actually stood up to the rise of real fascism and today's slavery, and protested our addiction to Made In China instead of labelling our own democratic leaders in such a disgusting and untrue fashion. No wonder democracy is in peril if we can't even tell the difference between the bloke that fronts the second biggest economy and the bloke that doesn't yet front the 1st biggest economy. We really are quite something, ain't we?
You can't imagine how good it is to see Bill and Vlad sitting next to each other, free. Bill has been advocating for Vlad's release from political prison for years.
If he was honest then he would have admitted that democracy in russia is impossible in the foreseeable future. Putin will be replaced by another dictaor. Mark my words.
Putin controls Trump, Trump has compromising activities the Russians have on tape, Russia does this all the time, set up honey traps, then film it and use it as black mail. Trump visited Russia many times before he ran for the presidency, he is very carnal, its not hard to set him up and film it without his knowledge
This is a very uplifting interview. Thank you to Bill and Vladimir for their persistence and extraordinary bravery, and thank you to Kate for her obvious compassion for Putin’s victims, both Ukrainian and Russian.
The interview might be uplifting but is delusional. Russia is winning this war conclusively. This is reality. Putin is the winner despite everything bad that has been said about him.
They lied to you. This is a fake opposition. These fake opposition folks should not lay their hands on the government positions! They are just the puppets of Illuminati. The ONLY real opposition is the armed one, fighting in Ukraine right now. Only the Freedom of Russia Legion will turn the course of Russia for good and build reliable long term partner relationships with the West and the US, align against China’s grab of world dominance, preserve peace and fight for humanity.
Great respect to both of you, Bill Browder and Vladimir Kara Murza, thank you for fighting the good fight, from Cape Town, South Africa, I am of Russian descent
Russia is on the right side of the story here . Democracy in EU is all about capitalism and corruption . NATO , USA and U.K. planned this war . Putin simply defend his own country .
This was a superb interview, Kate, of two very courageous and principled men. I would hope that some of our politicians could watch it and, perhaps, develop a stronger moral resolve to fight evil wherever it is found.
@@StatetrooperBillyBill Vladimir is a vey common name in Russia and Ukraine although it is pronounced differently in the latter. But hey, go ahead and do you research, wonder what you will find? BTW "wich" is spelled "which" unless you are referring to the ladies who purportedly are said to ride on broomsticks; then it is spelled "witch."
They lied to you. This is a fake opposition. These fake opposition folks should not lay their hands on the government positions! They are just the puppets of Illuminati. The ONLY real opposition is the armed one, fighting in Ukraine right now. Only the Freedom of Russia Legion will turn the course of Russia for good and build reliable long term partner relationships with the West and the US, align against China’s grab of world dominance, preserve peace and fight for humanity.
Thank you Vladimir for believing that the future belongs to democracy. These words coming from you mean a lot to me, in the time when democracy seems to be under attack from all directions. I'm Polish. I pray every day for peace in our region, and also for a new Russia that will make people like you feel proud, you deserve it so much.
I feel the same fear for the future of democracy, frusia. The new power in the world seems to consist of evil regimes in alliance i.e. China, Russia, North Korea and Iran; plus support by India. As Russia, China and India all have enormous populations and resources the prospect for human rights and equality look very bleak indeed. Indians online are already bragging about their imminent dominance over the West. They are in the trade organisation BRICS - for emerging economies, aiming to topple the dominance of the West and replace the default world currency (USD) with something new.
@sanataj I realise that the coming years won't be easy. Three things give me hope: 1. Autocrats can't co-operate. I saw it during the elections in Poland last year. The autocrats had all the state media and enormous advantage. They would have won again, but they couldn't bring themselves to compromise with another similar party. Meanwhile the democratic parties got together and that's how we won. 2. The autocrats are only as clever as the top guy. They can't utilise the talents that are naturally within the people of the group. Democracy is strong through the talents of many, autocracy requires fear and violence to maintain. It constantly needs to push others down to survive. It's an incredibly expensive system. Of course they have a lot of money, but the cost of maintenance of autocracy is one of its weaknesses. 3. While I get worried and disheartened by seeing how many people get blinded by the lies of autocrats, I also see how it makes the democratic side shine. Difficult times bring the worst in us, but also the very best. Look at the heroes of democracy like Kara-Murza or Navalny. Those people are diamonds of integrity. People like that only ever emerge in opposition to evil. And there are many, many more, in every corner of the globe, although not everyone is as visible of course. Democracy is going through a trial of fire, but it is not lost. And maybe each one of us has a part to play. Don't give up.
@@frusia123It’s true. The amount of people snowed by BS or not understanding simple things (like one country invading another being wrong for example), is incredible. It makes me wonder. Ugh.
@@t.l.1610 I wonder sometimes if it's not some sort of moral disability. And it's not like autocrats are some other evil species and the rest of us are all good and ethical. Among our neighbours and colleagues there are many potential autocrats, who will simply never get into a position where they can practice their autocracy. But in terms of morality, perhaps they just don't see it as bad, because they would have done the same.
@@sanatajyou are disillusioned. It has never been about democracy because the US and NATO basically built up China. The Chinese military now owns the manufacturing of the world. Do you now see that this was never about democracy and all about profits. India is the world's largest democracy yet the US always supported Pakistan. Thanks to USSR navy that deterrent the US from coming to attack India decades ago. The friendship is strong.
Escaped from the soviet block, I was always so happy every time someone managed to get through. I must have watched Konrad Schumann jumping the barbed wires a hundred times. And I remember, for years I had a recurring nightmare that I was back behind the Iron Curtain - it was so horrid that I always woke up whimping in pain.
@Geo_Knows_Things The trumpians should take the hint and notice that the nations most opposed to russia's invasion of Ukraine are the ones who experienced russian rule before and they want no part of that again...accept for orban. They are also the nations giving the most in relation to their GNP. But trumpians don't understand such things, I mean, they really believe that China will pay for the tariffs. Oh, how great did that Mexican payment work out?
If Russia and Putin are so brutal this man would not have been released, As usual after being released he is now spitting out poison against Moscow (a usual practice of all dissidents). He is no more than faithful dog of the Western Imperialsim!
Thx Times Radio from Denmark 🇩🇰 always competent and respectful interviews with interesting guests. Victory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 will be the best help for the Russian people- it will rid them of Putin’s kleptocracy
@@Happydale-ds5yp It's official. Leaked Russian document reveal over 1,000,000 Russian KIA in under 3 years. That's the same number as the British lost in World War 1 and that war was 4 years and 4 months long.
@@miteshghadi3146Report War Crimes: Axis of Evil /Communist MAGA: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, satellites, death threats, poisoning, physical/emotional abuse.
Two wonderful noble loyal and supremely impressive people. The world is lucky to have such people advocating and fearlessly struggling for what is right and calling out wrong. Thankyou gentlemen. Thankyou Kate for showcasing them.
They lied to you. This is a fake opposition. These fake opposition folks should not lay their hands on the government positions! They are just the puppets of Illuminati. The ONLY real opposition is the armed one, fighting in Ukraine right now. Only the Freedom of Russia Legion will turn the course of Russia for good and build reliable long term partner relationships with the West and the US, align against China’s grab of world dominance, preserve peace and fight for humanity.
so hopeful and happy to see Bill Browder and Vladimir Kara Murza together united in their mission!! My heart is with you both and all like minded! 💜💪🏻🙂
I want to Salute Vladimir, Sergei Magnitsky, Sir Bill Browder, and all of the outstanding recipients of the Magnitsky award. I would like to see Julian Assange receive a Magnitsky award. I would also like to see The Magnitsky Act adopted here in New Zealand. I'm inspired and relieved to here that Mr. Kara-Murza believes that democracy will rise in Russia. The sooner the better!
Praying for the continued success of the Magninky Act wherever it exists and hope more countries adopt it. Thank you Bill Bowder and Vladimir Kara-Murza for your ongoing work and sacrifices!
Thank you very much Vladimir for helping me better understand what has happened to you and all the others. I hope you and your family feel safe and happy here.
It is people like Kara Murza that gives us all hope for the world, for freedom and democracy. He is a hero and I pray God protects him. We need more people like him to tell the truth as we are surrounded with putins lies
What s hypocricy.. You had Alexy Navalny and you let him killed.. you had Boris Nemtsov.. Why you need more people like this if you yourself don't do nothing?!?! All Russian nation have to rise up against regime!! All nation!!! Not only hope and wait that few of people will Free you!! How convenient..!!
Thank you Vladimir for everything you’ve done and for helping me live my life here in the UK without fear. How I wish our leaders would listen to voices like yours!
An honour to see both Sir Bill Browder AND Vladimir Kara Murza, a free man! Following and supporting you both and Mikhail Khodorkovsky from Sri Lanka. May God bless you all💜🕊️🙏
You both will save the world with your strength ,courage and dedication to initiating a stance in the betterment of people!! There is no room for dictator in our world of today!!
Well done ... any may freedom, justice, truth and compassionate fair law rule in all nations. Huge respect to the defenders of these including brave Vladimir Kara-Murza & Bill Browder.
Amazing interview. Thanks to both guest especially Vladimir. I believe he is sounding off an alarm to other countries going down the road of destruction, autocracy. He's clearly demonstrating the dire need for democracy over autocracy.
He also believed that politicians should not listen to their constituents, instead decide what is best for them. Seems a bit dictatorial. You would probably say Putin like.
The discussion highlights the complexities of Russia's current political landscape and bravery of those challenging Putin's regime. A thought-provoking analysis.
@@Bryankips You’re in the minority laughing! He’s well educated and wants the best for 🇷🇺 and a glimmer of hope for a free and democratic country instead of what it is right now, an authoritarian oppressed Dictatorship
@@augusthome9860 He is a nasty traitor to Russians, Russians are very smart and educated people, therefore they know for sure what is going on. But, you are an anglo media indoctrinated person. You only speak english and your culture is very limited. Be honest and face it.
hen was that? I did not know that. I thought there was a royal family and Netherlands fought with Great Britain for control of South Africa... usually it is a monarch that orders that sort of behaviour.
@@sanatajthe NL is one of the racist in democratic world. They protect the ppl who randalized their own city and oppressed those who protected it. But hey, just read their history, the first global colonialist enterprise which funded by wealthy businessmen.
Artur Pawlowski is like Canada's Vladimir Kara-Merza "Lions Don't Bow" a new best selling marvelous book written while in his solitary confinement. Praise God for the courageous! Courage is contagious! Look out tyrants! 🦁 Roarrrrr!!!
I hope they soon have democracy and choose real democracy, unlike UK and USA where people choose the least bad option, European style PR is the only real democracy.
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I am a 76 year old American civil engineer living and working in Kherson, Ukraine, through the Russian military occupation and my own personal military detention and interrogation. My friend, Sergiy, a retired cop that got me out somehow, was crying when he picked me up when I got out. He said that they could have just killed me as was done to so many Ukrainians here. Now that I am out, I am starting to realize more and more how lucky I was. I am trying to work efficiently and effectively to help Ukraine win the war to the 1991 borders (anything less is not a victory) , rebuild the country and bring down the Putin/FSB regime. Vladimir Kara-Murza is a hero in the classical sense. Great discussion. Thank you and keep up the good work Times Radio. You may not remember me but you interviewed me at the very start of the war concerning what was happening in Kherson and my neighbor being killed in her apartment by a tank round.
Please stay safe.
❤Same age as you. I nearly got there to help with Paediatrics or anything, but family issues stopped me.
I am so proud of what you are doing, and have survived to tell us here. May Vladimir Kara-Murza's vision unfold in all it's glory, for Russia and for all of Russia's neighbours❤.
Slava Ukraini !
How different are the 1991 borders to 2024?
@@VincentRE79A difference larger than the size of Italy
I am an 81 year old Canadian and I do not know whether you have ever received proper recognition or been accorded due respect for your courage. I hope you don’t mind me, a complete stranger, acknowledging both. And, because every contribution opposing brutal repression is so important, please accept my thanks.
So awesome to see Vladimir free again...:)
He seems to have a lung issue? Probably caused by poisoning 😞
I wish him all the prayers that he will be safe at all times . Blessings to you and your family .
I will pray for him and his family
What fantastic and brave people Vladimir and Bill are. They are very very impressive.
These guys are Brave Brave Brave
❤
Yes, they are amazing. Good luck to them. 💙
ok I was NOT expecting this to be an interview with Kara-Murza HIMSELF! Love this guy, and was so devastated when he was arrested. So so happy he's free.
If Russia and Putin are so brutal this man would not have been released, As usual after being released he is now spitting out poison against Moscow (a usual practice of all dissidents). He is no more than faithful dog of the Western Imperialsim!
“The future belongs to democracy”. Thank you! It is absolutely true. Your bravery, courage and moral clarity is very much needed today.
Only rich people think twice here.
Feels like he’s trying to tell the US something like maybe HOLD ON!
Wishful thinking at the moment.
@@awf6554well he is a historian and he had a lot of time to think while in the Russian prisons
The west removed elected Ukraine president 2014 and installed puppet. Mr Zelenski is a ditactor because self proclaimed president as his term expired. Killing women & children in Iraq for the sake of democrazzy.
*Putin installed real democracy in Ukraine*
Thank you Vladimir Kara-Murza & Bill Browder
They are just dreaming
Even Alex Navalny realised that he can only change Russia from within and paid with his life.
Believing Russia can be changed from London Hempstead is naive
If Russia became a true democracy, I believe it would very quickly become one of the top economies of Europe. There are millions of very smart, very inventive hard working citizens in Russia. I live in hope that the people of Russia get this chance soon.
@@simonmiller5118 But it is not realistic .Started with it being it soon and also European country
Russia s focus will be in Asia not Europe
I think it is naive of Kara-Murza to believe that Russia could become a "normal European country." Germany and Japan only became "normal" with occupation and new constitutions, both achieved after much slaughter. Moreover, each of those nations had a liberal tradition not too removed from their fascist period. Russia is going to need more of this kind of intervention, not less. As long as Russians see empire and conquest as part of their national identity this will repeat over and over.
Kara-Murza's hope that the next time Russia is amenable to change we should "support them all we can" is really missing the point. A lot of support was given to them 30 years ago. The trade links and support only created the means for Russia to rebuild and go after Georgia and Ukraine.
Trade does not change nations, it only enriches them.
@@gameburn178 Glad somebody is finally getting it. When Bush the 1st, Clintons and many more like the Cato Institute were pushing "free trade". They promised it would bring those nations closer to us. They tore down the Iron Curtain on such a promise. It was a disaster who's true roots was lowing wages in the West for the profit of a few.
We had literally just witnessed the power of the Cold War. Where they were reverting to the stone age and could not compete. Due to isolation. But the greed of those in power to exploit that cheap labor too great.
What BRAVE and COURAGEOUS men!
Browder? why he has been fighting a movie about his enterprise in Russia? Why did he run from a subpoena delivered by a cop in NYC
I wonder what these brave men think of Netanyahu?
People like this should be in Government and in power! Genuine people who care and talk such sense.!! Respect. !! Martyn.
Absolutely 💯
You can hear the sincere passion in Vladimir’s voice and mannerisms. May you stay safe, my brother.
@jasonpednault465 I feel the same as you do.
Since when has America promoted democracy throughput the world. We have a rich history of supporting tyranny as long as it suits Americas interests.
These men are the lights in a dark world.
@@eddietejera8179 As an Australian I often have the same doubts as you do.
But in regard to this presentation, the 2 beautiful men being interviewed, and the content of conversation, I have no doubts or reservations. The content here is realistic and raw, with an honesty that is surrounded by great pain, suffering, loss, and a drive to correct terrible wrongs.
There is NOTHING to fear here. You have been given a rare gift and glimpse here into how many a Russian mind will be released from the shackles of control and thus liberated to truly breath the free air, and still remain beautifully Russian.
@@Roger-go6jc unfortunately Ukraine was used and sacrificed to divide and break up the German Russian alliance that was built since the 1960s. Germany engineering and cheap Russian energy was too much for the west to handle. You think America, Victoria Nuland, Biden Obama care about Ukrainians? Theirs 600,000 Ukrainian solders dead and billions upon billions in lost weaponry armaments that ultimately made many people rich and resulted in nothing good for Ukraine. No NATO on Russian borders is what USA or any logical country would want for itself. Putin had a treaty all along and the British made sure Zelensky didn’t sign it. I remember maidan coup, Azov battalion, Banderites, right sector, C13 and Neo Nazis in that coup and in military. Slavic gentiles at war with Slavic gentiles is what they’ve wanted all along.
These men are inspirational! I’m ashamed of and horrified by my countrymen in the US who voted for fascism. I’m heartsick. I’m grateful for others trying to fill in the gaps for our loss in this fight. Thanks for carrying on this important mission!
Just remember you’re not alone! Many Americans such as myself are sickened by the homegrown fascists that were willingly voted in by so many of our fellow citizens!
Hopefully if we all speak our minds and stand up to these authoritarians we will only have four years of this mess!
Yeah, ok. Trump was President from 2016-2020 if you forgot. Objectively these were great years for the US (up until COVID). Nothing that Trump’s did during his first term was remotely fascist. You just didn’t agree with it. Trump Derangement System is clearly a thing though. If your heart doesn’t get better soon, try turning off MSNBC.
The Democrats are fascists aswell as Trump. You are an idiot if you believe any different.
The democrats are the fascists ...he anger and rage and sheer arrogance displayed after the election...hardly tolerant are you?
Fascism? Imagine if us silly bums in the West actually stood up to the rise of real fascism and today's slavery, and protested our addiction to Made In China instead of labelling our own democratic leaders in such a disgusting and untrue fashion. No wonder democracy is in peril if we can't even tell the difference between the bloke that fronts the second biggest economy and the bloke that doesn't yet front the 1st biggest economy. We really are quite something, ain't we?
I love Bill Browder , these are two very brave men . Thank you for all you have done .
You can't imagine how good it is to see Bill and Vlad sitting next to each other, free. Bill has been advocating for Vlad's release from political prison for years.
He's a crooked businessman who had to flee the country after charges were pressed against him. I wouldn't call him brave.
Thanks for your “input” but that isn’t the truth.
@@alexeishayya-shirokov3603and your a Russian bot.
@@alexeishayya-shirokov3603 yup, you got it right but you can tell that very few people know about this
Respect to Vladimir Kara-Murza. A bright light indeed!
Vladimir is an amazingly heroic man! Thank you very much!! 🙏
hear hear! 💓
what.. an evil oldmen..putin ia now crazy thinking about the collapse if russian..duma will it out putin now..obsolete mind..
May God protect these Gentleman.
I dont think so.
So great to see intellectual and honest man who doesn't play narcissist agendas. Thank you. I hope everyone in White House will hear it too!
Exactly how people used to describe Putin 20+ years ago when he first came to power.
I mean, especially the incoming White House...
They won’t
If he was honest then he would have admitted that democracy in russia is impossible in the foreseeable future. Putin will be replaced by another dictaor. Mark my words.
Putin controls Trump, Trump has compromising activities the Russians have on tape,
Russia does this all the time, set up honey traps, then film it and use it as black mail.
Trump visited Russia many times before he ran for the presidency, he is very carnal, its not hard to set him up and film it without his knowledge
This is a very uplifting interview. Thank you to Bill and Vladimir for their persistence and extraordinary bravery, and thank you to Kate for her obvious compassion for Putin’s victims, both Ukrainian and Russian.
You dont even have a name @user-ug5if9ef8q
The interview might be uplifting but is delusional. Russia is winning this war conclusively. This is reality. Putin is the winner despite everything bad that has been said about him.
I think you meant North Korea
@@growlinggrowler-c2vNo, that was not what they meant.
So great seeing and hearing from Vladimir Kara Murza! He is so clear, impassioned and truthful - a beacon of hope for democracy in Russia.
Heroic, courageous people who must be heard and followed for all our sakes.
hear hear!! 💜
They lied to you. This is a fake opposition.
These fake opposition folks should not lay their hands on the government positions!
They are just the puppets of Illuminati.
The ONLY real opposition is the armed one, fighting in Ukraine right now. Only the Freedom of Russia Legion will turn the course of Russia for good and build reliable long term partner relationships with the West and the US, align against China’s grab of world dominance, preserve peace and fight for humanity.
Amazing interview. Willing to make the sacrifices he did. A unique person.
he speaks French and English so well - and his wife is so adorable. The beautiful people are always the ones being selected out by the reptiles!
God bless Bill Browder and Vladimir Kara-Murza. Bravery / Courage embodied. Wonderful human beings ❤️ ♥️ 💙
Brilliant , Brilliant , Brilliant and also brave Bill and Vladimir ! Thank you for this ...
Muppet, muppet, muppet
Wow, Thankyou Vladimir Kara - Murza, we salute You're service to peace and a new Rus.
Incredible interview. There are some magnificent people in the world. It's a source of inspiration during a dark time.
Respect and all the luck in our world for these two incredible human beings..
Agreed.
They’re the true knights of democracy.
These men are the lights in a dark world.
Well said.
you are very wrong! Those men are future russian nazis, they want to replace current russian nazis
the same imperial orc as putin, just speaks English
Indeed. Very well said. Such brave people that give us all hope ❤
Well said. And how lovely to see Vladimir smiling. Real grace.
Brave principled men sharing the truth with the world. Thank you!
Great respect to both of you, Bill Browder and Vladimir Kara Murza, thank you for fighting the good fight, from Cape Town, South Africa, I am of Russian descent
Bless you.
Great!!! Thank you!!!! South African /Ukrainian here in S.A too.
@@gregorydesleskine3413do you experience pro ruscist sentiment in South Africa 🇿🇦
@@RobertHughes-sv2mx Yes, the whole bloody ANC government and its adherents are pro ruscist, although they pretend to be neutral.
Russia is on the right side of the story here . Democracy in EU is all about capitalism and corruption .
NATO , USA and U.K. planned this war . Putin simply defend his own country .
This was a superb interview, Kate, of two very courageous and principled men. I would hope that some of our politicians could watch it and, perhaps, develop a stronger moral resolve to fight evil wherever it is found.
Like Russia, there are good people, but soooo many weak men and women. And...rich men stealing from the poor to give to themselves.
Kara Murza is correct we need to be ready for russia to fall suddenly. I love Browder's determination. This video makes me feel emotional.
That would be wonderful but sadly, most of them are SO self serving that I have little hope for their “moral resolve.”
Amazing guests, amazing interview!
Kara Mursa. The strongest living man on the planet!
@@StatetrooperBillyBill Vladimir is a vey common name in Russia and Ukraine although it is pronounced differently in the latter. But hey, go ahead and do you research, wonder what you will find? BTW "wich" is spelled "which" unless you are referring to the ladies who purportedly are said to ride on broomsticks; then it is spelled "witch."
They lied to you. This is a fake opposition.
These fake opposition folks should not lay their hands on the government positions!
They are just the puppets of Illuminati.
The ONLY real opposition is the armed one, fighting in Ukraine right now. Only the Freedom of Russia Legion will turn the course of Russia for good and build reliable long term partner relationships with the West and the US, align against China’s grab of world dominance, preserve peace and fight for humanity.
Thank you Vladimir for believing that the future belongs to democracy. These words coming from you mean a lot to me, in the time when democracy seems to be under attack from all directions. I'm Polish. I pray every day for peace in our region, and also for a new Russia that will make people like you feel proud, you deserve it so much.
I feel the same fear for the future of democracy, frusia. The new power in the world seems to consist of evil regimes in alliance i.e. China, Russia, North Korea and Iran; plus support by India. As Russia, China and India all have enormous populations and resources the prospect for human rights and equality look very bleak indeed. Indians online are already bragging about their imminent dominance over the West. They are in the trade organisation BRICS - for emerging economies, aiming to topple the dominance of the West and replace the default world currency (USD) with something new.
@sanataj I realise that the coming years won't be easy. Three things give me hope: 1. Autocrats can't co-operate. I saw it during the elections in Poland last year. The autocrats had all the state media and enormous advantage. They would have won again, but they couldn't bring themselves to compromise with another similar party. Meanwhile the democratic parties got together and that's how we won.
2. The autocrats are only as clever as the top guy. They can't utilise the talents that are naturally within the people of the group. Democracy is strong through the talents of many, autocracy requires fear and violence to maintain. It constantly needs to push others down to survive. It's an incredibly expensive system. Of course they have a lot of money, but the cost of maintenance of autocracy is one of its weaknesses.
3. While I get worried and disheartened by seeing how many people get blinded by the lies of autocrats, I also see how it makes the democratic side shine. Difficult times bring the worst in us, but also the very best. Look at the heroes of democracy like Kara-Murza or Navalny. Those people are diamonds of integrity. People like that only ever emerge in opposition to evil. And there are many, many more, in every corner of the globe, although not everyone is as visible of course. Democracy is going through a trial of fire, but it is not lost. And maybe each one of us has a part to play. Don't give up.
@@frusia123It’s true. The amount of people snowed by BS or not understanding simple things (like one country invading another being wrong for example), is incredible. It makes me wonder. Ugh.
@@t.l.1610 I wonder sometimes if it's not some sort of moral disability. And it's not like autocrats are some other evil species and the rest of us are all good and ethical. Among our neighbours and colleagues there are many potential autocrats, who will simply never get into a position where they can practice their autocracy. But in terms of morality, perhaps they just don't see it as bad, because they would have done the same.
@@sanatajyou are disillusioned. It has never been about democracy because the US and NATO basically built up China. The Chinese military now owns the manufacturing of the world. Do you now see that this was never about democracy and all about profits. India is the world's largest democracy yet the US always supported Pakistan. Thanks to USSR navy that deterrent the US from coming to attack India decades ago. The friendship is strong.
Bless 👼 👼 you both for your relentless efforts for peace and justice ❤
I am so glad you made it out!
Escaped from the soviet block, I was always so happy every time someone managed to get through. I must have watched Konrad Schumann jumping the barbed wires a hundred times. And I remember, for years I had a recurring nightmare that I was back behind the Iron Curtain - it was so horrid that I always woke up whimping in pain.
@Geo_Knows_Things The trumpians should take the hint and notice that the nations most opposed to russia's invasion of Ukraine are the ones who experienced russian rule before and they want no part of that again...accept for orban.
They are also the nations giving the most in relation to their GNP. But trumpians don't understand such things, I mean, they really believe that China will pay for the tariffs.
Oh, how great did that Mexican payment work out?
He is one brave man,along with Bill browder.
What a great interview. All three of you are inspiring and so honorable.
Excellent, encouraging, challenging interview.
Haven't finished watching this video yet but had to comment how glad to see Bill Browder alongside Vladimir Kara-Murza.
Yes.
I have so much admiration for these 2 amazing men.
I am delighted that Mr Kara-Murza has been released. He is an articulate man of great integrity and political acumen.
If Russia and Putin are so brutal this man would not have been released, As usual after being released he is now spitting out poison against Moscow (a usual practice of all dissidents). He is no more than faithful dog of the Western Imperialsim!
One word for both Vladimir and Bill "inspirational". Thank you both 👏
Immense gratitude for you both! Beyond words!
Good to see mr Kara - Murza looking so well
Thx Times Radio from Denmark 🇩🇰 always competent and respectful interviews with interesting guests. Victory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 will be the best help for the Russian people- it will rid them of Putin’s kleptocracy
lol
how look at kim jon and china jinping .you are dreaming
Hard to believe it’s owned by the same folk that own Fox News.
@@Happydale-ds5yp It's official. Leaked Russian document reveal over 1,000,000 Russian KIA in under 3 years. That's the same number as the British lost in World War 1 and that war was 4 years and 4 months long.
@@miteshghadi3146Report War Crimes: Axis of Evil /Communist MAGA: Cease and desist malicious use of AI, energy weapons, satellites, death threats, poisoning, physical/emotional abuse.
What a brilliant man and great interview.
Two wonderful noble loyal and supremely impressive people. The world is lucky to have such people advocating and fearlessly struggling for what is right and calling out wrong. Thankyou gentlemen. Thankyou Kate for showcasing them.
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sweet! 🤣🤣
@coomberaider
100% agreed!
(Ignore the trolls - most are Russian in origin)
Agree
@@K.L.M.Online so then tell me please: what exactly do YOU find noble about the fact, that they are not against the war?
Brave man. Good on him. I hope he lives a long and safe life and gets to see Putin overturned.
Swallow less Kool Aide child?
Not going to happen. He can only reside here in the west and avoid ending up like his friends: Navalny and Nemstov.
With all due respect - not brave, foolish, to put it mildly.
I hope we ALL live to see that.
@@dimka2006so who are the brave? The cowards?
Brave guys.
Keep up the good work.
Live long and prosper.
Wow, what a remarkable man.
Vladimir, you are a hero and a true human. Please be safe and take care, respect from Stockholm - Sweden 💙💛
TRUMP DICTATOR ? 😂
PUTIN DICTATOR ? 😂
XI JINPING DICTATOR ? 😂
Nonsense..,..!!!!
Putin or Kara - Murza?
Congrats from bonny Scotland
@@shawna7813 Putin, obviously
They lied to you. This is a fake opposition.
These fake opposition folks should not lay their hands on the government positions!
They are just the puppets of Illuminati.
The ONLY real opposition is the armed one, fighting in Ukraine right now. Only the Freedom of Russia Legion will turn the course of Russia for good and build reliable long term partner relationships with the West and the US, align against China’s grab of world dominance, preserve peace and fight for humanity.
Thank you! What you say, both of you, is actually so encouraging in such a difficult time.
Thank you for this interview. We are with you Mr Kara Murza.
so hopeful and happy to see Bill Browder and Vladimir Kara Murza together united in their mission!! My heart is with you both and all like minded! 💜💪🏻🙂
Two great men and hero's, great conversation. Congratulations on your release!!! Thank you Gentlemen
I want to Salute Vladimir, Sergei Magnitsky, Sir Bill Browder, and all of the outstanding recipients of the Magnitsky award. I would like to see Julian Assange receive a Magnitsky award. I would also like to see The Magnitsky Act adopted here in New Zealand. I'm inspired and relieved to here that Mr. Kara-Murza believes that democracy will rise in Russia. The sooner the better!
Praying for the continued success of the Magninky Act wherever it exists and hope more countries adopt it. Thank you Bill Bowder and Vladimir Kara-Murza for your ongoing work and sacrifices!
Thru heroes.!
Let them both stay safe forever.
Great conversation Kate. Thank you.
Thank you for giving us this opportunity to be virtually in the presence of greatness.
I sincerelly hope you're right, Mr. Kara-Murza.
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So good to see them together, thanks for the interview , much appreciated
What a guy. Seriously 💪
And Navalny and Magnitsky. Countless others we don't know about too, no doubt.
Thank you very much Vladimir for helping me better understand what has happened to you and all the others. I hope you and your family feel safe and happy here.
It is people like Kara Murza that gives us all hope for the world, for freedom and democracy. He is a hero and I pray God protects him. We need more people like him to tell the truth as we are surrounded with putins lies
His story needs to be made into a movie
What s hypocricy.. You had Alexy Navalny and you let him killed.. you had Boris Nemtsov..
Why you need more people like this if you yourself don't do nothing?!?!
All Russian nation have to rise up against regime!! All nation!!!
Not only hope and wait that few of people will Free you!! How convenient..!!
Don't be naive. They acting against Russia and its people.
Good work Bill Browder
Brilliant interesting and insightful interview thanks so much Times Radio and Kate ,always informed and accurate thanks again Slava Ukraine.
WE LOVE YOU GUYS!! 💕
Keep Defending The Truth✌🏻💙💛
Two men of Integrity ✌🏻🇬🇧
HEROYAM SLAVA 🔱🇺🇦✌🏻
What truth?
🤣 the best joke of the year !
@@sylvestrelauriotprevost
Have a stronK wodka Ivan 🤪
@@kerolokerokerolo
Crying ...
Cheer up 😊
Superb interview, it gives you hope.
Thank you Vladimir for everything you’ve done and for helping me live my life here in the UK without fear. How I wish our leaders would listen to voices like yours!
Kate always give the best interviews. She lets her amazing guests speak.
An honour to see both Sir Bill Browder AND Vladimir Kara Murza, a free man!
Following and supporting you both and Mikhail Khodorkovsky from Sri Lanka. May God bless you all💜🕊️🙏
You both will save the world with your strength ,courage and dedication to initiating a stance in the betterment of people!! There is no room for dictator in our world of today!!
God Bless You Both! Millions of PEOPLE around the world are thinking of you and are behind you!!!
Well done ... any may freedom, justice, truth and compassionate fair law rule in all nations. Huge respect to the defenders of these including brave Vladimir Kara-Murza & Bill Browder.
I was so moved by this interview! Thank you so much!
It is a great privilege to hear from such a brave human being. God bless…
I hope with all my heart that these brave men will live to a ripe old age, in perfect health. Thanks to both of them, we owe them so much.
Deep, deep respect to both of the speakers.
How can we help in this dark times?
What great men! Thank You!
Great interview.
Love hearing from Bill Browder & Kara-Murza.
Amazing interview. Thanks to both guest especially Vladimir. I believe he is sounding off an alarm to other countries going down the road of destruction, autocracy. He's clearly demonstrating the dire need for democracy over autocracy.
Australia here. Thank you Kate - amazing journalist and thank you for having on these two wonderful Gentlemen to talk to us. SO very much appreciated.
Phenomenal courage and a lofty purpose, strength to the line Gents!
I'm very grateful for this sharing in particular.
May God bless you🙏.
Edmund Burke "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
good men and women to do nothing!" Three cheers V. Murza and B. Browder.
He also believed that politicians should not listen to their constituents, instead decide what is best for them. Seems a bit dictatorial. You would probably say Putin like.
Maybe he's changed his mind.
Unless of course they have several thousand nuclear weapons.
アメリカがウクライナを使ってロシアに戦争を仕掛けたのは悪であり大罪である｡
Whoop whoop!!! Stunning days ahead folks, history in the making. Respect from Manchester (UK) :)
The discussion highlights the complexities of Russia's current political landscape and bravery of those challenging Putin's regime. A thought-provoking analysis.
deux grands hommes, digne et honnête. Je vous admire énormément.
wild opinion 😂
@@Bryankips You’re in the minority laughing! He’s well educated and wants the best for 🇷🇺 and a glimmer of hope for a free and democratic country instead of what it is right now, an authoritarian oppressed Dictatorship
You are looking very bright today, Kate!
Excellente interview. Je l'ai placé dans ma playlist "Ukraine, la guerre de Poutine" car elle ouvre déjà des perspectives méconnues.
What an amazing man, and group of people. So brave.
And still so many people are behind the bars in Russia 🥹
Men. Putin wants Bill dead too.
We need to keep this guy around and safe at all cost. We need a sensible Russian to speak up.
He should be the next Russian president
@@BaggaBliss He works for the west, Rusians don't like traitors.
@@MrGercela64
He’s not a traitor, he’s a patriot of Russia and democracy. He’s an incredibly courageous man, a real man, unlike Putin.
@@augusthome9860 He is a nasty traitor to Russians, Russians are very smart and educated people, therefore they know for sure what is going on. But, you are an anglo media indoctrinated person. You only speak english and your culture is very limited. Be honest and face it.
Very convincing and encouraging. Thank you very much for this video!!
From the Netherlands; the almost first democratic (except Greece) nation in the world respect and hope for the future!
hen was that? I did not know that. I thought there was a royal family and Netherlands fought with Great Britain for control of South Africa... usually it is a monarch that orders that sort of behaviour.
@@sanatajthe NL is one of the racist in democratic world. They protect the ppl who randalized their own city and oppressed those who protected it. But hey, just read their history, the first global colonialist enterprise which funded by wealthy businessmen.
What a brave man, Pro Patria.
Artur Pawlowski is like Canada's Vladimir Kara-Merza "Lions Don't Bow" a new best selling marvelous book written while in his solitary confinement.
Praise God for the courageous!
Courage is contagious! Look out tyrants! 🦁 Roarrrrr!!!
Whoa!🤯-I don't know about the tyrants, but I'm trembling in my boots after reading that!!😊🤙
A living legend, thankyou Vladimir. The sooner your Hope's become real , the sooner the world becomes a safer place for all.
This russian chap is impressive.
Thank-you for standing up for democracy!!! 💙💙💙
I hope they soon have democracy and choose real democracy, unlike UK and USA where people choose the least bad option, European style PR is the only real democracy.