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With Mega Man and X getting a duology collection and CAPCOM reviving a lot of their old IPs and doing well with them, Command Mission (and to the same exact length Battle Network and Star Force) might just have a chance.
@@Steve-Fiction I think it was latter half of the game the battles started to get longer? I know the boss battles would drag on for a bit if I remember correctly.
Funfact: Skies of Arcadia's characters, Vyse, Aika and Fina are playable characters in the Valkyria Chronicles series! Heck, Vyse even has a cameo in the anime! REALLY want you to play Valkyria Chronicles Jared!
YES! The moment he mentioned that game and I saw the characters, I was like 'Someone on the VC team was a fan of this game and added them in'. I need to play Skies of Arcadia now
@@calikikitaru3519 And I need Jared to play Valykria Chronicles, whether it's 1,3 or 4 I don't care (Avoid 2 cause it's not bad, however, it is a GRINDFEST! 2 is the hardest VC because of that. If you want a good experience, 1 or 4 is your go, If you want the best story, 3 is the best one of all (Sadly only fantranslated))
@@MALEMization That is all true, I sadly didn't realize VC2 Was a grind fest until getting midway through. Though if were talking about best story, VC1 would best to play, not that VC4 is bad, I love VC4 its my first VC game, but VC1 just feels a bit more mature in some respects, so I'd love to see Jared play 1
@@MALEMization Bullshit. Not only vc 3 has the worst story, its also the hardest and all for the wrong reason. Especially torwards the end, its just heavy troopers shitfest. And not only whose troopers have ridiculuos armor, devastating machine guns, they also have high evasion as well, because why the hell not! VC2 story might not be the best, but its side characters sure are, mostly because they actually give every singe one their own story
Omg baten Kaitos really needs a 3rd game, we still don't know anything about the dark brethren or the monsters from the different dimension and how they relate to spirits
It's one of my favorite RPGs on the Gamecube, I even bought the soundtrack for it. I like Origins too, though I do prefer the way the battle system is in the first game especially since each character has their own card deck. I wonder if there's any chance Monolith Soft would revive this series. It would be really cool to see a new game, and also re-releases of the first two for those that never got to play them.
My most vivid memory of that game is how the voice acting sounded like the characters were all standing in a tiny echo chamber filled with water at all times. It makes the Dark Souls 1 sound mixing seem completely normal in comparison.
I'm so happy that Jared is making videos again. As someone who doesn't really watch live streams or let's plays, I've been waiting ages for this stream of uploads. Thank you so much.
Yeah, never happening, Nintendo kinda wants people to forget about it so they stop asking for a sequel to it every time a new paper Mario releases. Re-releasing it would only ignite that flame again.
Tales of Symphonia still remains as my favorite JRPG of all time! The gameplay, characters, anime cutscenes, the story, the music... I love everything! And I'm super grateful with that game not only for the contless hours of fun it gave me (seriously I must had beaten that game like 15 times straight when I was in junior high) but for also introducing me to the "Tales of" series from Bandai Namco witch has become my favorite JRPG series and gave me lots of moments and friends throught the years! ❤️
Yeah I love that game, actually currently doing a play-through of the steam version. I own several games from that series and Symphonia is really the only one I truly liked. I don't know what it is about Symphonia, but I really like it, and the other games in the series are lacking "it".
@@MistyKathrine Hmmm maybe its because that Symphonia has that "Classic JRPG Aura" around it?! Well who knows?! XD!! If you want another game of the series with a "Close" vive to Tales of Symphonia, I recomend Tales of the Abyss (PS2/ 3DS) 😉
@@RedMageR90 I have Abyss, never finished it, quit like half way through and never was interested in picking it up again. Only other Tales game I played all of the way through was Xillia and it was probably because was kind of short, but I was definitely ready for it to be over when I was nearing the end.
@@MistyKathrine I'd argue Vesperia and Abyss have it as well. But all these games imo hold up better now on the content they have vs most modern games ngl. Graphics aren't everything and most of them are pretty fun and run pretty smooth while just being...fun you know?
_Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance_ and _Skies of Arcadia Legends_ are easily the best Gamecube RPGs. I've got a soft-spot for _Megaman X Command Mission_ too, despite it's flaws. _Custom Robo_ ("Battle Revolution") will always have a place in nostalgia. I'm sad that I never played _Baten Kaitos,_ though... and my introduction to the _"Tales of"_ series began with Xillia, not Symphonia.
Baten Kaitos really wasn't that good. They were so focused on making the cards make sense in-world, they forgot to write up any reason for why the characters had to fight with decks which they would shuffle in the middle of combat rather than just keeping hold of the same good cards over and over (which was totally a thing they could have done in terms of the story, but chose not to because the game HAD to be a card-based combat system). They actively punished you for advancing and trying to be tactical by shortening the time you got to think about your turns the more you advanced in the game and the bigger decks you were expected to make. They also did this horrible thing where you got to name your character, but rather than doing what Final Fantasy X did and making sure to write the dialog in a way where the characters never said Tidus' name while still making it sound natural, they just had the voice actors awkwardly pause whenever they said your name in the middle of a sentence and hope you would imagine them saying whatever name you entered.
@@ImsorryAnakin I know it's a port of a Dreamcast game, but I still effectively consider it a Gamecube RPG (because the "Legends" port is one of the games I grew up with).
Ah, Crystal Chronicles, where we argued who would be the "Chalice Bitch" and someone accidentally tugging the wire to disconnect their GBA would hard-restart us to the last save point. Good times, and I mean that in a nostalgic "uphill both ways" way.
@@TenchiHawkwing Actually I've played a lot of them, I just like the fire emblem series much more than other TRPGs because it's the best balance of streamlined mechanics and tactical decision making for my tastes. I find that most other "hardcore" TRPGs get way too up themselves about how "challenging" they are, resulting in them adding far too many mechanics claiming that it gives them a "more in depth tactical experience" when all it really does is make turns take far too long because of all the shit you have to faff about with each turn, or serve as a "noob filter" because they don't explain these mechanics so new players get curbstomped, frequently both.
@Caiman Troup it kinda is. The animations are clunky and move like molasses, even if you turn them off. It's also poorly balanced. It's pretty clear that it was a more story/character driven game, much like FE4, another game in the series with okayish gameplay. I think Path of Radiance has a damn good story.
@@cultreader9751 I heavily disagree. I do feel that a small portion of the animations are a bit slow but for most of them I feel like the animation speed is perfect. While that part can be chalked up to personal preference the game has 2 ways of dealing with that, turning off animations, and holding a button to speed up the full animations while they're being played. Putting that aside some of the animations can be a little stiff but none are clunky save the heavily armored dudes who are supposed to be slow and clunky because they have a bunch of heavy armor on. Even so the game is nearly 20 years old and there is only one game that's that old with animations that hold up to modern standards and thats Jak and Daxter because they hired disney animators to do the animations. PoR/RD have the best fire emblem animations in the series in my opinion. As for poorly balanced I have no idea where you got that. It's the only western released fire emblem that has both limited resources and a cast where every member is viable without coliseum and roaming bandit grinding shenanigans. Yeah it's base difficulty is on the easy side but that's the point of multiple difficulty settings, to use the one that offers the right amount of challenge for you. And if they're all too easy for you, congrats you're a "hardcore" gamer, but that doesn't make it not properly balanced if you're used to harder games of that genre
Yeah, while I think it is was only an average game overall it gets major props for the most unexpected plot twists in gaming history in my opinion. Just for that twist it will always be one of my favorite games.
I think the best part is that it's not even one plot twist. It's MULTIPLE plot twists all entangled in each other. The fact that SHE KNEW the entire time is literally a plot twist on top of the already insane plot twist, and completely flips the entire story on it's head.
I thought path of radiance was one of the better entries in the series. It added the home base and the customizable class skills that later entries like awakening would bring back. Also thought it was one of the most fleshed out stories and worlds FE has.
IMO, path of radiance has some of the best ideas in the series, but is heavily held back by slow and clunky gameplay and bad graphics. Tellius is one of the most fleshed out FE worlds along with Fodlan and I absolutely love the base camp and bonus EXP systems, but both Tellius games are far too long for their own good (especially Radiant Dawn) with very poor balancing, infuriating maps, and some of the most clunky gameplay in the series. FE1 was arguably less clunky besides that game's bizzare trading system! I just really wish the base camp came back instead of IS going forward with the terrible monastery system from three houses. I hate having to explore a large area and talk to EVERYONE between every chapter + do sidequests and minigames. I just want to get on to the next chapter while having a set area to rest and prepare like with Tellius. One of my problems with GBA FE is that there's no down time. It's just chapter to chapter with no time to settle down, organize your units, view supports, manage your inventory, do side missions, etc like you can in Tellius and Fates. (and to a lesser extent Awakening and Three Houses, but for different reasons)
Path of Radiance also has one of the best supports in the series. I don''t know where Jared find dialogues exhausting, because it's interesting to read due to the plot, lore and characters. And it's better than dialogues in 3DS Fire Emblems (at least Awakening and Fates). The biggest problem with the game is that it is a bit slow, but gameplay is still great and fun.
The only problems with Path of Radiance are how slow it is and how ugly the graphics and animations are. Other than that it's one of the best FE games for sure.
Path of Radiance is great. Yeah, visually it looks like an N64 game, but everything else is awesome. I’d say its better than Awakening, Fates, and Three Houses.
I think it's a modern perspective that really puts path of radiance down as slow or clunky. Coming from someone who started with the fire emblem series on the gameboy (in the US so only 7 and 8) on real hardware I would honestly say that path of radiance didn't feel slow to me. I had a fleshed out world, an intriguing story with a variety of characters to work with, its home base system (though in some ways mechanically similar to 8) was a major step forward towards what we now see as typical aspects of modern fire emblem games. But most people who play fire emblem nowadays likely started with something like awakening or fates, and if they have played the older games they've likely played on an emulator where the speed up button makes the pace much easier to deal with. TL;DR By modern standards Path of Radiance is slow and clunky, by standards of the time it was great and added many new mechanics and aspects to the series
I don't know if I would count this as an RPG, but I remember having so much fun playing Gauntlet: Dark Legacy with my family. We still talk about that game to this day, and how I always snatched up the gold first.
I been thinking the same thing about that game, I always wanted to play it, ever since I saw it's advertise on one of the Nintendo Power Magazines, where it shows four people holding their Gamecube controllers.
@@aztn19 As soon as I saw X-Men Legends, I thought of Dark Legacy. The original game that it's based on (Gauntlet Legends) is a lot more arcadey and I don't believe you can save items between levels like in the Gamecube version, so maybe that factored into his decision. Or he just forgot about it. Either way, I think it's one of the best co-op games on the Gamecube. Lots of fun and an underrated soundtrack too!
Tales of Symphonia was, like for many others, my introduction into the series which has since become one of my top 3 RPG franchises that have surpassed trilogy length. (the other 2 being Suikoden and Kingdom Hearts) Meanwhile, Skies of Arcadia Legends is among my top 4 individual RPGs of all time. (the others being Suikoden V, Tales of the Abyss and Radiata Stories)
Jared that hair lighting was insane and makes me wish humanity had actually glowing hair dye. Imagine going to sleep with your own personal nightlight: Your scalp!
I didn't realize I played half of all the RPGs the GameCube had to offer XD Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia are still two of my favorite RPGs to this day.
Apparently I played like 75% of them. Including the very few that weren't included in the video lol (there's a few really obscure games that suffer massively from being advertised as being... not what they actually are. Or that really are RPGs, but that PJ's just.. for some reason not counting as one despite including other games that play nearly identically and have similar story designs.) ...in fact, even Gladius is a game that suffered from bad advertising. Go read the back of it's case and then look at the actual game sometime, lol.
YES, I was hoping you were going to talk about LOTR: The Third Age! It was actually the very first turn-based RPG I ever played as a kid, and while it's a little rough around the edges in places, I still really enjoy it.
I have such good memories of that game! Growing up LOTR was my favorite thing (and still is one of my favorites) and I played it so much! One of the games I wish would be put on the backwards compatible list for Xbox or ported over to something! I just want to play it again!
It was my first too! Had it on the PS2 and remember playing the beginning so many times cuz I had no memory card, but it was amazing and I wish I finished it
I got the game one time when my mom saw my report card and surprised me by taking me to GameStop. One of the best days I can remember and also one of my favorite PS2 games based on one of my favorite movies
My Dad and I used to play a lot of YuGiOh: The Falsebound Kingdom. It was really fun and had a lot of scenarios that made you have to think about what units you were taking in, and priority of where you were sending your units. There was also Joey that was a secret 3rd character after you beat the game with the first two characters. The game definitely shined once you put some decent time into it.
I remember my siblings playing Mega Man X: Command Mission on PS2, it had a good soundtrack and battle system. Capcom has been re-releasing their old games lately, especially their Mega Man (X) games, hope to see this game get the same treatment one day.
Lost Kingdoms 1 & 2 were two of my favorite gamecube games. Sure the stories were short, but I spent hours trying to finish my card collection, and it fueled my love of the summoner rpg class type in general!
Depending on your definition of "RPG", you could include Custom Robo on this list. I rather enjoyed it, though that could just be the nostalgia talking.
It aint just the nostalgia. Game's solid. I had that and the one on DS, Custom Robo Arena. Played a ton of both but mostly the GCN as it was easier to gather a group of people and play on the couch.
@@aztn19 Sealed and/or complete copies can run up to near the $100-$250 range. So yeah, it's one of the more rarer Gamecube titles to get your hands on.
I remember that there was an Avatar: The Last Airbender RPG in the style of games like X-men legends on the GameCube and PS2. I was totally looking forward to Jared covering it, but he missed it for some reason.
I only played the Gameboy Advanced game. But from what you said it seems much better than the console one, it was more akin to Zelda with puzzle solving
Controversial Opinion: I love Lost Kingdoms I + II! I thought the deck building thing was fun as hell and I was always excited to see what a new card did and not to mention going back to areas to try and get the rarer cards or find new areas
So glad someone is singing praises on Gladius. I bought the game on a whim used from a random game store and fell in love instantly. Every year, I end up revisiting it and remembering why I love it so much. Super underrated game.
I got to rent Gladius from a local video store and it absolutely enraptured me for a good week or two! I still remember some of the soundtrack as well. Unfortunately, the next time I went back to rent it, it had either been outright sold or otherwise removed. :( Got stuck on one mission where you had to rescue... What was it... Sigi the Gauldr or something? Would march straight into the woods and get blasted every time, haha
Personally, I thought Baten Kaitos held up pretty well when I played it last month. It's extremely typical of the era in its presentation, but I love the fact Magnus evolve, I find the gameplay loop of linking numbers and reacting quickly to attacks addicting, I enjoyed deck building and I really liked the story and what it did with Kalas at the lava dungeon.
Another thing that makes it great, IMHO, is the fact that despite BK2 being a prequel, they DID include the same boss you fight repeatedly. I just absolutely love the fact that Giacamo is just this completely crazy dude that refuses to give up despite losing like 20 times throughout both games lol.
yeah, I miss it too. Could be good to bring back to help people who ski-.. er, I mean, totally watch the sponsored section, and have it play right after it concludes... uh, you know, to enhance the sponsorship or whatever.
The lost kingdoms series were really good. The first one had a very cool opening sequence, the sound track was beautiful to listen to, and it overall had a lot of charm. Lost kingdoms 2 greatly improved on the gameplay elements of the first, but it fell short one the things that made one so good. I love games where you can evolve and transform yours characters and weapons to see what they can turn into. So lost kingdoms was perfect for me.
Honestly, as someone who played LK2 ages ago, but owns LK1, I actually liked LK2 more in almost every way... it just had so much more work required to find all the fun stuff. I especially love the fact LK2 allows you to use LK1's final boss towards the end of the game. IMHO, LK1's biggest issue is the fact it's secret bosses require you to literally just get lucky, as they're barely accessible without getting certain cards from certain levels, which you can't just replay the levels in order to get. LK1 with a simple mod that allowed you to replay levels AND get the final boss card select reward again would improve the game like 10 fold.
One interesting feature in Skies of Arcadia is it's discovery system. You can "discover" various locations and objects to earn extra money. The interesting thing is, and this is never mentioned in game, it has hidden timers baked into it. If you take too long to find each one as it becomes accessible on the world map, other NPCs can discover it first instead resulting in a vastly reduced discovery reward.
Evolution Worlds was my jam as a kid, though yeah, little interest in revisiting it. Pretty sure Custom Robo counts as an RPG if the X-Men Legends games count.
Custom Robo is kind of hard to call an RPG. Every battle and all of the progression is story-gated, there's no way to prepare for the next battle other than changing your part loadout, the closest thing it has to 'secret' parts are the things you can only earn in the post-game, it has none of the typical RPG elements other than the story. Still a damn good game though. I'd be interested in a more RPG take on Custom Robo.
I was so happy to see Bauldur's gate dark alliance on this list. I have so many fond memories of playing that game with my older brother as a little kid! Better times.
I had been recently wanting to play Command Mission again and finally had the feeling begin to waver as I don't have an easy way to play it. I then I watch this and now I want to play it again. I'm glad it's not just my rose-tinted nostalgia glasses making me think it was a nice and solid game.
so happy to see someone talk about baten kaitos! i was eager the entire video to see if you would. i find the way the cards change with time so fascinating,like how milk can turn into cheese and yogurt,and how you can snap a picture of monsters to get money for it,but the sharper and newer the picture is the more valuable. its honestly a really unique system that deserves some praise
Lost Kingdoms 2 was one of my favourite games on the system back in the day. I booted it back up a few years ago, saw the FromSoft logo drop and was like WAIT WHAT?! How far they've come. I wonder what a LK3 would look like . It's worth noting that LK2 has way more than 4hrs of content due to several unlockable areas outside of the main story, and of course finding and "evolving" all the cards.
5:40 Just to say for those interested, there is a person who took the hardwork out of the emulator scene to allow 4 people to connect and play Crystal Chronicles with no issues. Legend of Zelda 4 Swords as well.
@@SolarFlairIsBestPony Dunno if I can do direct links but if you search "How To Play FFCC Online (Dolphin & VBA Emulators)" should take you directly to the Reddit post for his guide and discord.
Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn were easily my 2 best Fire Emblem games, those were the games that introduced me to the series and the gameplay is amazing! Those games have the best interface and I love almost all the characters of the game
The Gamecube may only have a small selection of RPGs, but, man, what a lineup it is. There are several games I'd consider strong contenders for the top 10 RPGs ever and a lot of the rest is very solid to great, with only a limited number of sub-par games overall. If I had to pick favorites in a top 3 list I'd probably pick Lord of the Rings: The Third Age, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door and either Megaman X: Command Mission or Skies of Arcadia.
Pokémon XD was probably my favorite. It was so different from most Pokémon games. It was actually my very first Pokemon game, I wouldn’t play a mainline one until Diamond and Pearl came out. It was decently challenging, the story was cool, and the shadow Pokémon were badass
Similarly, I played Colosseum before any mainline game (that would have been Sapphire), although my first game was Stadium. I like XD more though, I must have played it through 30+ times by now
Personally Path of Radiance is my favorite Fire Emblem game. I'm surprised you didn't like the dialog, because I found it way less cliche'd than the following FE games. Most of the characters feel like actual characters, rather than walking tropes (for example Ike seems like he's going to be the virtuous meathead character, but he's not stupid and he pays attention to other's situations). In my opinion, the maps are solid and varied, the plot makes sense, the characters are good, the lord promotes at a decent time and gets some fun toys, the soundtrack is outstanding, and none of the battle preparations ever feel like busywork (which is an issue I have with Three Houses).
Yeah, seconding this! It's the only FE I've really played (still looking to remedy that), but I'd definitely consider it one of the best games on the GC. I also felt the dialogue/characters were a strong point and was surprised by that comment - I'm guessing maybe it's just the sheer *volume* of it that can be overwhelming to some, and might cause them to skip over it.
I think Path of Radiance is the best Fire Emblem game after Genealogy of the Holy War. Genealogy's story is just unbeatable, though PoR is a close second
@@king_pigeon Genealogy's story may be solid, but it shows its age in gameplay. Enemy turns take forever because there are so many units and the AI thinks slowly, most of the non-magic animations lack impact, etc. PoR definitely plays better.
Skies of Arcadia is such an overlooked gem. I LOVE the game to death and wish more people knew about it. They need to port it to Switch so people can experience it. Path of Radiance and Tales of Symphonic were also huge parts of my childhood as well
Dear God. Lost Kingdom was almost *impossible* to me and my brother. I wanted to progress in it so badly but just never understood it. Got it same day I got Eternal Darkness, the game that pretty much defined my horror taste for life.
Lost Kingdoms 1 is stupidly easy when you finally obtain Whip Worms and spam them. So strong, that Katia uses them In Lost Kingdoms 2 as a Secret Boss in that game. In Lost Kingdoms 2, To break the game, either use the 2 Rheebus and Golden Phoenix Trick to become inmortal or if you want a more practical And non-gamebreaking Technique, Use the Banshee card to feed EXP to all your cards by giving Banshee the final blow against a ton of enemies. I love both of these games to death and they are so fun. I wish FromSoftware would remake them, seeing how they are remaking some of their old series, I have hope
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast my only memory of it being difficult was running out of cards almost instsntly. I see them recharging in the video but I recall them just disappearing after use, I remember beating the 2nd zone or something and had literally no cards left
@@TheLastComa yeah, I hear that complait a lot, and the only real way to restore them without Cards that restore cards is running to blue fairies, but in LK1, They can also summon monsters. The game was expected for you to play the game and equip cards you find in the chest to add to your deck, but doing so once makes it so you don't gain cards from Blue fairies anymore. In Lost Kingdoms 2, you change your deck on the fly, only for that level, so you don't "Throw away" your best cards throughout the level.
I remember getting stuck in Baten Kaitos when I sold a lot of the attack cards only to realize that you cannot buy/upgrade attack cards like you could weapons in other RPGs. So I was unable to beat one of the first major bosses of the game because I was merely flailing about without a way to make real progress in the fight. I stopped playing the game shortly after that. But is was a beautiful game though!
The tragedy is that Vyse, Aika and Fina show up as guest characters in the Valkyria Chronicles series, so Sega knows they have value, knows we want more Skies Of Arcadia. I'd take a port of Legends onto Switch. A lot of these need a little love to be honest, obviously Paper Mario has no business remaining GameCube exclusive.
I ~really~ want to see a proper remaster of SoA with the content of every version in tact and working. ...and then I also want to see a prequel that covers the story of Quetya. See the world before it was shattered, experience the first war of the gigas, and the journey to seal them away.
Can everyone agree that the best parts of the Baiten Kaidos games is the music and worldbuilding? Right? The gameplay kinda suffers compared to those two.
I agree. I remember being fascinated by the world, but hating the gameplay. lol I can't remember if I ended up finishing it myself or just watching my brother finish it. He was a lot more into the gameplay. I got just as drawn into the Xenoblade Chronicles world much later except this time I enjoyed the gameplay more. Still never played Xenoblade Chronicles 2... I need to get on that.
I still have copies of Baten Kaitos, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Tales of Symphonia sitting on my shelf. To bad that the picture the Gamecube puts on more modern screens is blurry as hell.
@@riemaennchen Yeah, I have that one. I also have the steam one, which if you install mods to fix most of the bugs, is probably the best version since you can play it at 4K.
tbf the games like PoR and ToS for the most part did 60 fps in exchange. They don't look the best but they damn run very smooth. Although ToS overworld was capped 30
Man I'm just now realizing I either played or owned like nearly all of these as a kid. Baten kaitos is still my favorite combat system in an rpg to date to the point where I lost my shit when I found a slay the spire mod based on it
Love the format of this video. Introduces games with good commentary, and offers a few seconds of silent gameplay afterwards. Simple, but very effective. Keep videos like this coming please! Love it.
Lost kingdoms? 4 hours? I kinda remember sinking a good 15~20 hours into both of them, I remember loving how the cards could interact, but hey I guess I just got more to enjoy with them (mostly the second felt much better)
...yeah, I have no clue how someone could call LK1 or 2 a 4 hour game unless you're intentionally speedrunning them. Sure, it's not the longest game ever, but it's definitely longer than your average CoD campaign.
So glad to see someone mention Baten Kaitos around here. I am kind of surprised that you said the 1st game had a better story than the 2nd, from my perspective it was the opposite: With more characters joining the party, the story felt like it had to be divided more to accommodate them, leaving everyone with a smaller slice of the pie. Origins, with it's 3 member cast, felt way more in-depth in terms of character development by the time of the game's ending. I will certainly concede however that the 1st game had a much more interesting plot twist, that took me off-guard when playing.
Lost kingdoms also known as Rune in JP, is a fantastic game that needs to come back. I don't much care for the first game, but the second was a hit with my friends and I. The card deck building, evolving monsters into different cards & learning of the different elements of cards is how i got hooked. I know the focus of the video was on RPG style, but this needs a better review for fans. It's something I still play to this day that from software could totally improve upon with their skills today.
I whole heartedly agree with this. If they actually improved upon the formula they had, and added a fleshed out story and characters... as well as actual game length, they could have a really good game on their hands. Heck... they could actually make a Dark Souls esque type game out of it. The core mechanics are there, they just need to improve a bunch of the other aspects.
I pine for a sequel to the Lost Kingdoms games. I get why Jared wasn't too impressed, but his biggest complaint of their length is more a plus for me, since the games had very little padding and constant gameplay changes in the form of new cards, they're so easy to replay. I have my own criticisms of the games, but the core system of an action rpg based around a deck of monsters you summon to fight for you is very original and has so much potential in the hands of what current FromSoftware could do.
Yeah man, if they did a remaster of 1 + 2 as a combo game, then made a shiny sequel with even more cards using everything they know how to do now as a company, it would be a total hit.
As someone that's played FF: Crystal Chronicles as of late with a friend, yeah they did the new ports of it really dirty. Dungeons are fine, but the additional part of the game, building your village, was so GOOD with friends! Even if it's so you're not trying to play through with, like, 8 different characters and their families.
I wanted to be able to play multiplayer for the first time so badly. I couldn't afford a GBA and Gamecube, let alone games for both. I played it to death single player. But they ruined it.
Dude, Summoner: A Goddess Reborn (Also known as Summoner 2) is totally an under rated gem! The story and lore is so intriguing and the music is so good!
He massively undersold Path of Radiance. That game’s plot blows anything from FE13 onward out of the water, and while it can be a little slow, you can turn off battle animation cutscenes and the map design is top notch.
Man Lost Kingdoms was one of my favorites as a kid. Looking back I can see your points, but this was just one of those games that I played so much it just has me by nostalgia. I remember after finishing the game that one of the levels had these four doors that just would not open, and had no idea what to do to open them. This was before I had steady Access to the internet. So I just had to assume I needed to do something with the specific elements the Doors were based on and something would happen... IT TOOK SO MANY MISSIONS, but by doing so I got new missions, new cards, and I THINK I unlocked the Doppelganger Card Fun Times
Skies of Arcadia is so important to me. During the 16-bit era I wasn't much of an RPG guy. Probably because I was a kid and these "wordy" games weren't available in my mother tongue. Next gen, I only owned a N64 that notoriously lacked JRPGs or at least I wasn't interested enough to find them. It was Skies of Arcadia on GC that made me fall in love with JRPGs. After that I also got a PS2 and got to first experience some PSX and PS2 classics.
Kinda glad you mentioned that Symphonia “doesn’t hold up as well” as later Tales entries, as that reflects my feelings toward it. Still a great game, but one that has definitely aged; I generally find the likes of Abyss and Vesperia more appealing, at least in that middle era of Tales, from Symphonia to…whichever one was before Xillia, kinda hazy on which entries were 11 and 12. As a side note, I don’t think too many people like that Wii sequel, but I personally do.
I disagree for Vesperia is fucking hard and has all kinds of difficulty spikes. Not to mention a final boss that reduces you to 1hp...and can steal health. Game is fun but Yuri vs generic mobs and spamming Dragon Swarm or die isn't good game design either lol. I think all three are the best in some shape or form. And after Arise's story...yeah I'd argue Symphonia holds up way better on that part. Game is still 60 fps besides the overworld which is more than most games for the time. Had a lot to do in terms of quests and the music still has some of the best in the series. Abyss is solid so is Vesperia and Symphonia imo. Why we gotta diss games that don't have modern issues like today such as making the game intentionally hard to sell leveling ARISE. Or have a mishmash Vesperia/Symphonia story that ends up going nowhere and feels worse than both...ARISE. All games have faults imo but idk I always felt like Abyss, Symphonia, and Vesperia were just the best Tales could offer in some way for getting into the series...other than I would say play Symphonia than Vesperia because it's a lot harder.
@@nah4467 For the record, I am not saying that Symphonia is a bad game, just that it shows its age the most. And I completely agree on your point of Symphonia, Abyss, and Vesperia being a good trifecta of games to get people into the series. In terms of Vesperia’s difficulty spikes, however, I don’t really remember the general issues, but there’s one in particular that was a thorn in my side, one that Definitive Edition straight up fixed. That being the Schwann fight, where they throw a super tough boss at you at a point where you might as well not have a healer (I hear Karol can become a good healer in NG+, but you’re screwed the first time around). The lack of heals is the main issue there; as such, it falls in one of the brief moments where DE gives you Flynn. That one change made the fight so much easier.
Symphonia's combat is so so so dull and unfun to me coming off of Vesperia. Blocks take ages to come out, only having access to six Artes at a time sucks, and there's just not as much flow between moves. Playing Yuri feels fluid and responsive, playing Lloyd just constantly feels clunky.
dotnw is an absolutely amazing game that unfortunately suffers from being randomly marketed and made a sequel instead of it's own dedicated game. I spent WAY too much time making the most crazy and overpowered monsters. Like an absolutely immortal leech due to most enemy types being unable to hit them consistently. In all honesty, a dotnw-esque game that didn't even have player characters and thus just played more like something like monster rancher would be insanely fun. My personal opinion on Symphonia is that it holds up, you just have to understand your expectations for it. I still love playing the game every now and then. It's just the same sort of thing you have to do when playing most older games... you have to understand that things won't work the same as the more recent games. ...Also the minmaxer exploiter in me will always love dawn of the new world for the simple reason that insta-cast 1-tp marta exists.
One series I always wish had made its way into GameCube will forever be Breath of Fire, and this video honestly just reminds me of that a lot. The series, to me at least, feels like it would've fit right in with games like TTYD and Tales of Symphonia.
The only one I can think of, which may not have entirely fallen into your category maybe, that you could've missed would've been "Custom Robo"! I loved that game and followed the series. I'd classify it as an RPG, but I could see with it missing a standardize leveling system why it might've been labelled something else.
I remember playing both of the Lost Kingdoms games as a kid, and I think they could do with a remaster/reboot. They would be a welcome game type change into the current generation which seems to focus on an overabundance of FPS type games. Of course, they'd have to actually flesh things out and put in an actual developed story and such, but the core mechanics are there and can be improved upon.
Can't wait to see you tackle the other systems later on down the road. Especially the Wii, I feel that's one of the systems that was starving for some RPG games (this is coming from a huge JRPG fan lol) Also, anything past Phantasy Star IV shouldn't be slept on. Especially Phantasy Star Universe.
Fun fact about Pokemon XD; originally, the main villain of the game was going to be Wes from Colosseum. Reason being that Wes wasn't actually a good guy, he was a former member of the criminal group who made the Shadow Pokemon. He was supposed to have been gathering the shadow pokemon so no one else but him could have them but him.
Definitely not the best platform for RPGs that generation but definitely had some gems. Personally dug Baten Kaitos, Tales of Symphonia, Path of Radiance and TTYD X-Men Legends was decent but either Ultimate Alliance game absolutely demolishes the Legends games quality wise
I can't even express my level of joy seeing Skies of Arcadia, Pokemon Colosseum, ToS, Baten Kaitos, and FFCC all in one video. These games, plus Smash Melee, Sonic Riders, and Need for Speed: Most Wanted ate so much of my time as a teen. Wonderful memories
Despite the lack of RPGs, GameCubes exclusive titles and 1st Party lineup was so worth it. Local play with 4 players was some insane fun. Most of my best memories during that generation was with the GameCube.
This video went WAY different to what I expected. I'm genuinely surprised it wasn't just one or two short sentences about each game, and some 20+ minutes of Jared just gashing about A Thousand Year Door.
Heavily disagree about PoR, it's one of the best FE games. The fact that Jared loves Awakening but said PoR is "meh" tells me he doesn't have the best taste when it comes to the series...
The first time I watched this I swear I didn't catch the Paper Mario mention and only saw it at the end with a "well that's everything I think", which would have been the funniest troll move Jared could have ever pulled.
Bruh if they (meaning Capcom) couldn’t even remember who Mega Man EXE. was when Sakurai wanted to use the mega mans across their history for Mega Man’s final smash, they won’t remember a underrated game like Command Mission.
The Gamecube really did have some cool RPGs. I never owned any of them, sadly. I think the only Gamecube game that I had was Goldeneye. I haven't touched it in *years.*
I’m playing evolution worlds right now and I wish this game got brought back as a remake, or even the characters back for another story. I loved the cyframes.. and I love the grind cuz of the skills and stuff idk guilty pleasure lol.
"A LucasArts game that has nothing to do with Star Wars." So, like Monkey Island, Full Throttle, Grim Fandango, Sam & Max, Day of the Tentacle, The Dig, Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, Loom, Zombies Ate My Neighborhood, Thrillville and Outlaws?
Big fan of Lost Kingdoms. I wish FromSoftware would eventually take a look back at older franchises and made a new, more in-depth Lost Kingdoms sequel... Instead of just releasing Demon's Souls over and over. Lost Kingdoms 2 is actually the very first game I bought with a paycheck from a part-time job back in high school.
I never realized until watching this video, most of these RPGs I was either introduced to or I just so happened to walk in on my friend(s) playing them, Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, and a few others. I did however know about or played older games such as PSO, Skies of Arcadia, and Paper Mario, and their are a surprising amount of gems in there as well, the Gamecube was a great console for getting lesser known titles into the limelight or mainstream media as it were.
I remember and owned a lot of these. Getting the Doppleganger in Lost Kingdom was both awesome and creepy. It summoned a copy of you that slowly walked around the level, and would instantly drag anything it touched into the ground and instantly killed it.
I was so excited to play Digimon World 4. Then I played it. I didn't get too far into it, never finished it, and have no plan to go back to it. Crystal Chronicles I absolutely loved, and played a lot when I was younger.
The only games I can think that count as RPGs that wasn't covered here (at least that I personally own) would be Custom Robo, Medabots Infinity, and maybe Gauntlet ? Otherwise what a great trip down memory lane. I'd love to own all of them someday 😅
Wow, Jared you were really rough on the Baten Kaitos games. Let me respectfully disagree and heartilly recommend them. The first one has goofy voice acting, but a nice story with a battle system that grows in intensity until the very end. There is tons of stuff to do in a beautiful world, and the MUSIC IS SO GOOD. Motoi Sakuraba (Golden Sun, Dark Souls series) just goes to town. The second game is a faster take on the first one, with better characters and a more focused story, but a little less good. Still, awesome music by Sakuraba and good writing for the characters. They have flaws, but I think they can easily be overlooked.
Tales of Symphonia changed my life. Not only was it the first game I played of my favorite video game series but it also started a several years long history of new friends and experiences. I will forever be thankful for my first time playing the game on GameCube and everything that I got from it. I also liked Mega Man X Command Mission though I never finished it. I think the only other GameCube RPG I have experience with is the Yu-Gi-Oh one that I watched my best friend play at his house. I've been keeping my eye on Lost Kingdoms and Digimon World 4 for my collection though.
Baten Kaitos is probably my favorite RPG ever, legit. Nothing was more satisfying than pulling a 1-9 Final Straight Sunrise for like 306% more damage on the final boss lol
Baten Kaitos not having a good story? Bruh, its so unique and has multiple plottwists. It even has a dark vader moment lol. Its corny and its voiceacting is a bit over the top, but damn its so good. I replayed it in 2021 and it still plays very well and fluent. Its so kreative, has such a unique style and the music is so beautiful. I wanna hear someone ramble about this game in an essay pls.
BK doesn't have a good story until you finish it. Then you're just like "wtf" and it stays with you the rest of your life. Which is 100% what I consider a good story to be.
Surprised that Custom Robo isn't on the list. True, there's no "level-up" but, the RPG elements are there and makes it one of my favorites on the Gamecube.
I quite like Falsebound Kingdom. I do accept that it's slow and a little clunky, and while you can field 8 Marshals Yugi gets a pool of ten and Kaiba has at most seven. But it's fun to explore, find where new monsters are, build your party how you want. And level up monsters to get new abilities. Also, with Tea you never actually lose.
Tales of Symphonia is my pick for the best Gamecube RPG! You were barely able to scratch the surface of the MASSIVE list of content and features in this game! You can play as any of the NINE unique party members almost whenever you want (they have to at least be with you obviously), and each one has unique weapons, skills, spells, and strengths. Using the "Strike/Tech" meter on your characters means that each character also has two separate lists of skills they can learn, so you can customize each play through with different skills... or just swap them to the other side, forget their skills, and learn the other ones wherever you want! And since it's real time combat, it feels like you're playing Smash Bros or a fighting game. Each play through will last you from 50 to 80 hours each, depending on how much you want to experience! I beat the game like seven times before I finally was able to complete everything! The main negative is that some of the puzzle solving in the dungeons isn't very fun. Thankfully, the bad puzzles aren't numerous, and they don't last long. The story is also massive, and it wasn't until the sequel on the Wii that several of the game's mysteries were finally solved. I'd recommend this game to anyone! The Gamecube version also the only one that natively runs at 60FPS, so it looks and plays fantastic.
I suddenly want to play PSO. I loved that game so much when I was in school. All my friends were into it and it was before the internet as it is today, so there was no real way to find out what was in the game or most effective ways to level and what-not. Which led to a lot of fun moments. Stuff like finding a red drop and having it be something crazy, then getting to go show it off to the group was just amazing. I really miss that kind of thing.
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Speaking of Balder's Gate, it would probably be a big project, but I would love a review of the first two Balder's Gate games from you.
Would love to see a review of all the wii rpgs with a main emphasis on arc rise fantasia since other than its localization its really good game
Love hearing you talk about RPG’s would love to see more videos like this
Great video as always! was hoping to see metabots on here though one of my childhood games
Hey have you heard of voice of cards? Its on next Gen console
Megaman X Command Mission is underrated. It’s not groundbreaking in any way, but it’s just really solid. Would love to see it get a digital rerelease.
Same here, sadly I never owned my own copy
I don't know man, I thought the battles dragged really hard.
With Mega Man and X getting a duology collection and CAPCOM reviving a lot of their old IPs and doing well with them, Command Mission (and to the same exact length Battle Network and Star Force) might just have a chance.
@@Steve-Fiction I think it was latter half of the game the battles started to get longer? I know the boss battles would drag on for a bit if I remember correctly.
Too bad it wasn't included in the recent compilations for Switch, PC, PS4, etc...
PS2 emulators are doing pretty good though
Funfact: Skies of Arcadia's characters, Vyse, Aika and Fina are playable characters in the Valkyria Chronicles series! Heck, Vyse even has a cameo in the anime! REALLY want you to play Valkyria Chronicles Jared!
YES! The moment he mentioned that game and I saw the characters, I was like 'Someone on the VC team was a fan of this game and added them in'. I need to play Skies of Arcadia now
@@calikikitaru3519 And I need Jared to play Valykria Chronicles, whether it's 1,3 or 4 I don't care (Avoid 2 cause it's not bad, however, it is a GRINDFEST! 2 is the hardest VC because of that. If you want a good experience, 1 or 4 is your go, If you want the best story, 3 is the best one of all (Sadly only fantranslated))
@@MALEMization That is all true, I sadly didn't realize VC2 Was a grind fest until getting midway through. Though if were talking about best story, VC1 would best to play, not that VC4 is bad, I love VC4 its my first VC game, but VC1 just feels a bit more mature in some respects, so I'd love to see Jared play 1
I've been meaning to look into Valkyria Chronicles since it was made by the same team that did Wild Arms, and I love that game.
@@MALEMization Bullshit. Not only vc 3 has the worst story, its also the hardest and all for the wrong reason. Especially torwards the end, its just heavy troopers shitfest. And not only whose troopers have ridiculuos armor, devastating machine guns, they also have high evasion as well, because why the hell not! VC2 story might not be the best, but its side characters sure are, mostly because they actually give every singe one their own story
baten kaitos is such an underraed gem.
Forever sad that they never made BK3 for WiiU . That would have been a perfect console for that style of game
Omg baten Kaitos really needs a 3rd game, we still don't know anything about the dark brethren or the monsters from the different dimension and how they relate to spirits
It's one of my favorite RPGs on the Gamecube, I even bought the soundtrack for it. I like Origins too, though I do prefer the way the battle system is in the first game especially since each character has their own card deck. I wonder if there's any chance Monolith Soft would revive this series. It would be really cool to see a new game, and also re-releases of the first two for those that never got to play them.
My most vivid memory of that game is how the voice acting sounded like the characters were all standing in a tiny echo chamber filled with water at all times. It makes the Dark Souls 1 sound mixing seem completely normal in comparison.
@@Max-ui7yf they had a poll on twitter a few years ago to make a third game but like nobody voted for it
If I remember right, monolith has gone on record saying they would like to make a new entry in the series.
I'm so happy that Jared is making videos again. As someone who doesn't really watch live streams or let's plays, I've been waiting ages for this stream of uploads. Thank you so much.
Thanks for giving video credit for using our footage. Nice video.
i rreally dont want to punch pro jared in the head , but cant some actually stop sitting on their ass and actually start doiing someting.
We need Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door on Nintendo Switch
Oh my god yes
Probably not going to happen due to miyamotos strange obsession with Mario not having any plot.
Yeah, never happening, Nintendo kinda wants people to forget about it so they stop asking for a sequel to it every time a new paper Mario releases.
Re-releasing it would only ignite that flame again.
We definitely do
No
Tales of Symphonia still remains as my favorite JRPG of all time! The gameplay, characters, anime cutscenes, the story, the music... I love everything! And I'm super grateful with that game not only for the contless hours of fun it gave me (seriously I must had beaten that game like 15 times straight when I was in junior high) but for also introducing me to the "Tales of" series from Bandai Namco witch has become my favorite JRPG series and gave me lots of moments and friends throught the years! ❤️
Yeah I love that game, actually currently doing a play-through of the steam version. I own several games from that series and Symphonia is really the only one I truly liked. I don't know what it is about Symphonia, but I really like it, and the other games in the series are lacking "it".
@@MistyKathrine Hmmm maybe its because that Symphonia has that "Classic JRPG Aura" around it?! Well who knows?! XD!! If you want another game of the series with a "Close" vive to Tales of Symphonia, I recomend Tales of the Abyss (PS2/ 3DS) 😉
@@RedMageR90 I have Abyss, never finished it, quit like half way through and never was interested in picking it up again. Only other Tales game I played all of the way through was Xillia and it was probably because was kind of short, but I was definitely ready for it to be over when I was nearing the end.
@@MistyKathrine I'd argue Vesperia and Abyss have it as well. But all these games imo hold up better now on the content they have vs most modern games ngl. Graphics aren't everything and most of them are pretty fun and run pretty smooth while just being...fun you know?
@@nah4467 I have Vesperia and Abyss, I've never finished either of them. Symphonia I'm working on my 6th? playthrough I think.
_Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance_ and _Skies of Arcadia Legends_ are easily the best Gamecube RPGs. I've got a soft-spot for _Megaman X Command Mission_ too, despite it's flaws. _Custom Robo_ ("Battle Revolution") will always have a place in nostalgia.
I'm sad that I never played _Baten Kaitos,_ though... and my introduction to the _"Tales of"_ series began with Xillia, not Symphonia.
Baten Kaitos really wasn't that good. They were so focused on making the cards make sense in-world, they forgot to write up any reason for why the characters had to fight with decks which they would shuffle in the middle of combat rather than just keeping hold of the same good cards over and over (which was totally a thing they could have done in terms of the story, but chose not to because the game HAD to be a card-based combat system). They actively punished you for advancing and trying to be tactical by shortening the time you got to think about your turns the more you advanced in the game and the bigger decks you were expected to make. They also did this horrible thing where you got to name your character, but rather than doing what Final Fantasy X did and making sure to write the dialog in a way where the characters never said Tidus' name while still making it sound natural, they just had the voice actors awkwardly pause whenever they said your name in the middle of a sentence and hope you would imagine them saying whatever name you entered.
Arcadia was a Dreamcast port so it doesn't count.
@@ImsorryAnakin I know it's a port of a Dreamcast game, but I still effectively consider it a Gamecube RPG (because the "Legends" port is one of the games I grew up with).
FE Path of Radiance is the best RPG on the gamecube, by far
I loved baten kaitos and would easily recommend it
Ah, Crystal Chronicles, where we argued who would be the "Chalice Bitch" and someone accidentally tugging the wire to disconnect their GBA would hard-restart us to the last save point.
Good times, and I mean that in a nostalgic "uphill both ways" way.
"It's nothing to exciting."
Flashbacks to the hundreds of hours I spent on Fire Emblem Path of Radiance.
Seriously. He said "it's a slog to play through" as I look up from my 50th+ playthrough. What is this heresy in my RUclips feed?
I'm guessing you guys haven't played too many TRPGs outside of the Fire Emblem series...
@@TenchiHawkwing Actually I've played a lot of them, I just like the fire emblem series much more than other TRPGs because it's the best balance of streamlined mechanics and tactical decision making for my tastes. I find that most other "hardcore" TRPGs get way too up themselves about how "challenging" they are, resulting in them adding far too many mechanics claiming that it gives them a "more in depth tactical experience" when all it really does is make turns take far too long because of all the shit you have to faff about with each turn, or serve as a "noob filter" because they don't explain these mechanics so new players get curbstomped, frequently both.
@Caiman Troup it kinda is. The animations are clunky and move like molasses, even if you turn them off. It's also poorly balanced.
It's pretty clear that it was a more story/character driven game, much like FE4, another game in the series with okayish gameplay. I think Path of Radiance has a damn good story.
@@cultreader9751 I heavily disagree. I do feel that a small portion of the animations are a bit slow but for most of them I feel like the animation speed is perfect. While that part can be chalked up to personal preference the game has 2 ways of dealing with that, turning off animations, and holding a button to speed up the full animations while they're being played. Putting that aside some of the animations can be a little stiff but none are clunky save the heavily armored dudes who are supposed to be slow and clunky because they have a bunch of heavy armor on. Even so the game is nearly 20 years old and there is only one game that's that old with animations that hold up to modern standards and thats Jak and Daxter because they hired disney animators to do the animations. PoR/RD have the best fire emblem animations in the series in my opinion.
As for poorly balanced I have no idea where you got that. It's the only western released fire emblem that has both limited resources and a cast where every member is viable without coliseum and roaming bandit grinding shenanigans. Yeah it's base difficulty is on the easy side but that's the point of multiple difficulty settings, to use the one that offers the right amount of challenge for you. And if they're all too easy for you, congrats you're a "hardcore" gamer, but that doesn't make it not properly balanced if you're used to harder games of that genre
Beaten Kaitos had one of the best plot twists in all JRPGs, in my opinion. Super underrated game that has plenty of content and secrets.
Anyone who says the story isn't very interesting, didn't make it that far, sadly.
Yeah, while I think it is was only an average game overall it gets major props for the most unexpected plot twists in gaming history in my opinion. Just for that twist it will always be one of my favorite games.
I remember playing the game and thinking to myself that a twist like that shouldn't even be possible but it is and it made total sense.
@@ronb7189 exactly! I remember when I thought "No this is unfair, you cant do this", I really got played by the game and not the other way around.
I think the best part is that it's not even one plot twist.
It's MULTIPLE plot twists all entangled in each other.
The fact that SHE KNEW the entire time is literally a plot twist on top of the already insane plot twist, and completely flips the entire story on it's head.
I thought path of radiance was one of the better entries in the series. It added the home base and the customizable class skills that later entries like awakening would bring back. Also thought it was one of the most fleshed out stories and worlds FE has.
IMO, path of radiance has some of the best ideas in the series, but is heavily held back by slow and clunky gameplay and bad graphics. Tellius is one of the most fleshed out FE worlds along with Fodlan and I absolutely love the base camp and bonus EXP systems, but both Tellius games are far too long for their own good (especially Radiant Dawn) with very poor balancing, infuriating maps, and some of the most clunky gameplay in the series. FE1 was arguably less clunky besides that game's bizzare trading system! I just really wish the base camp came back instead of IS going forward with the terrible monastery system from three houses. I hate having to explore a large area and talk to EVERYONE between every chapter + do sidequests and minigames. I just want to get on to the next chapter while having a set area to rest and prepare like with Tellius. One of my problems with GBA FE is that there's no down time. It's just chapter to chapter with no time to settle down, organize your units, view supports, manage your inventory, do side missions, etc like you can in Tellius and Fates. (and to a lesser extent Awakening and Three Houses, but for different reasons)
Path of Radiance also has one of the best supports in the series. I don''t know where Jared find dialogues exhausting, because it's interesting to read due to the plot, lore and characters. And it's better than dialogues in 3DS Fire Emblems (at least Awakening and Fates). The biggest problem with the game is that it is a bit slow, but gameplay is still great and fun.
The only problems with Path of Radiance are how slow it is and how ugly the graphics and animations are. Other than that it's one of the best FE games for sure.
Path of Radiance is great. Yeah, visually it looks like an N64 game, but everything else is awesome. I’d say its better than Awakening, Fates, and Three Houses.
I think it's a modern perspective that really puts path of radiance down as slow or clunky. Coming from someone who started with the fire emblem series on the gameboy (in the US so only 7 and 8) on real hardware I would honestly say that path of radiance didn't feel slow to me. I had a fleshed out world, an intriguing story with a variety of characters to work with, its home base system (though in some ways mechanically similar to 8) was a major step forward towards what we now see as typical aspects of modern fire emblem games. But most people who play fire emblem nowadays likely started with something like awakening or fates, and if they have played the older games they've likely played on an emulator where the speed up button makes the pace much easier to deal with.
TL;DR
By modern standards Path of Radiance is slow and clunky, by standards of the time it was great and added many new mechanics and aspects to the series
I don't know if I would count this as an RPG, but I remember having so much fun playing Gauntlet: Dark Legacy with my family. We still talk about that game to this day, and how I always snatched up the gold first.
I count it as one, especially if the X-Men Legends game and LOTR counts here for his list
Yeah I thought it fit, but I can see where it'd be borderline
I been thinking the same thing about that game, I always wanted to play it, ever since I saw it's advertise on one of the Nintendo Power Magazines, where it shows four people holding their Gamecube controllers.
@@aztn19 As soon as I saw X-Men Legends, I thought of Dark Legacy. The original game that it's based on (Gauntlet Legends) is a lot more arcadey and I don't believe you can save items between levels like in the Gamecube version, so maybe that factored into his decision. Or he just forgot about it. Either way, I think it's one of the best co-op games on the Gamecube. Lots of fun and an underrated soundtrack too!
I loved that game! Still do actually. It's super fun and a great successor to Legends.
Tales of Symphonia was, like for many others, my introduction into the series which has since become one of my top 3 RPG franchises that have surpassed trilogy length. (the other 2 being Suikoden and Kingdom Hearts)
Meanwhile, Skies of Arcadia Legends is among my top 4 individual RPGs of all time. (the others being Suikoden V, Tales of the Abyss and Radiata Stories)
Projared forgot that both symphonia games are alvaible on PS3.
The only really sad oversight in this one is that the camera only follows player 1
Radiata Stories is one of the best and most underrated titles! So rare to see it mentioned.
Suikoden 1 2 are masterpiece symphony and suikoden 3 4 5 are garbage
@@sinni800 You can change the camera settings manually to make it keep a better view of the entire battlefield at all times, though.
Jared that hair lighting was insane and makes me wish humanity had actually glowing hair dye. Imagine going to sleep with your own personal nightlight: Your scalp!
I didn't realize I played half of all the RPGs the GameCube had to offer XD
Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia are still two of my favorite RPGs to this day.
Apparently I played like 75% of them. Including the very few that weren't included in the video lol (there's a few really obscure games that suffer massively from being advertised as being... not what they actually are. Or that really are RPGs, but that PJ's just.. for some reason not counting as one despite including other games that play nearly identically and have similar story designs.) ...in fact, even Gladius is a game that suffered from bad advertising. Go read the back of it's case and then look at the actual game sometime, lol.
YES, I was hoping you were going to talk about LOTR: The Third Age! It was actually the very first turn-based RPG I ever played as a kid, and while it's a little rough around the edges in places, I still really enjoy it.
I have such good memories of that game! Growing up LOTR was my favorite thing (and still is one of my favorites) and I played it so much! One of the games I wish would be put on the backwards compatible list for Xbox or ported over to something! I just want to play it again!
Only complaint: That style of turn based combat comes from Grandia. FFX didn't invent it.
It was my first too! Had it on the PS2 and remember playing the beginning so many times cuz I had no memory card, but it was amazing and I wish I finished it
Was hoping he’d mention that it has a feature where you can play as the enemies.
I got the game one time when my mom saw my report card and surprised me by taking me to GameStop. One of the best days I can remember and also one of my favorite PS2 games based on one of my favorite movies
so excited to finally see Jared talking Thousand Year Door and my beloved two Pokémon games!
My Dad and I used to play a lot of YuGiOh: The Falsebound Kingdom. It was really fun and had a lot of scenarios that made you have to think about what units you were taking in, and priority of where you were sending your units. There was also Joey that was a secret 3rd character after you beat the game with the first two characters. The game definitely shined once you put some decent time into it.
I remember my siblings playing Mega Man X: Command Mission on PS2, it had a good soundtrack and battle system.
Capcom has been re-releasing their old games lately, especially their Mega Man (X) games, hope to see this game get the same treatment one day.
Lost Kingdoms 1 & 2 were two of my favorite gamecube games. Sure the stories were short, but I spent hours trying to finish my card collection, and it fueled my love of the summoner rpg class type in general!
Glad to see more people loved these games besides me. :)
I love them too
Depending on your definition of "RPG", you could include Custom Robo on this list. I rather enjoyed it, though that could just be the nostalgia talking.
It aint just the nostalgia. Game's solid. I had that and the one on DS, Custom Robo Arena. Played a ton of both but mostly the GCN as it was easier to gather a group of people and play on the couch.
Maybe he doesn’t own it, since it’s crazy expensive to find these days. It’s my personal favorite on GameCube that isn’t 1000yr Door
Custom Robo is more like a fighting game with character customization than an RPG. Still a fantastic game though
I was curious if this was considered an rpg. Maybe it is more of an action game
@@aztn19 Sealed and/or complete copies can run up to near the $100-$250 range. So yeah, it's one of the more rarer Gamecube titles to get your hands on.
I remember that there was an Avatar: The Last Airbender RPG in the style of games like X-men legends on the GameCube and PS2. I was totally looking forward to Jared covering it, but he missed it for some reason.
Hey, I remember that! If memory serves, it covered stuff between books 1 and 2. Spent a lot of time on it, it was pretty cool
I've _never_ even heard of that!
that one was more a Beat em up with a leveling system if im not mistaken.
Yeah true, but you could still level up, take on quests find equipment, the usual tropes of an RPG.
I only played the Gameboy Advanced game. But from what you said it seems much better than the console one, it was more akin to Zelda with puzzle solving
Controversial Opinion: I love Lost Kingdoms I + II! I thought the deck building thing was fun as hell and I was always excited to see what a new card did and not to mention going back to areas to try and get the rarer cards or find new areas
Agreed. One of the most underrated games ever
Lost Kingdoms and EverGrace are among FromSoftware’s most underrated titles. So fucking good.
I spend an ungodly amount of hours trying to collect all the cards. So much fun.
So glad someone is singing praises on Gladius. I bought the game on a whim used from a random game store and fell in love instantly. Every year, I end up revisiting it and remembering why I love it so much. Super underrated game.
Xbox just backwards compatible too
I got to rent Gladius from a local video store and it absolutely enraptured me for a good week or two! I still remember some of the soundtrack as well. Unfortunately, the next time I went back to rent it, it had either been outright sold or otherwise removed. :(
Got stuck on one mission where you had to rescue... What was it... Sigi the Gauldr or something? Would march straight into the woods and get blasted every time, haha
I really loved the swing meter on Gladius, just the perfect amount of engaging button mashing in the middle of turn based tactics.
Personally, I thought Baten Kaitos held up pretty well when I played it last month. It's extremely typical of the era in its presentation, but I love the fact Magnus evolve, I find the gameplay loop of linking numbers and reacting quickly to attacks addicting, I enjoyed deck building and I really liked the story and what it did with Kalas at the lava dungeon.
I really hate the term "gameplay loop". But I agree with this entire post haha
@@IzraelGraves yet that's what it's called lol
Another thing that makes it great, IMHO, is the fact that despite BK2 being a prequel, they DID include the same boss you fight repeatedly.
I just absolutely love the fact that Giacamo is just this completely crazy dude that refuses to give up despite losing like 20 times throughout both games lol.
I can't be the only one who misses the OG Projared intro, right?
yeah, I miss it too. Could be good to bring back to help people who ski-.. er, I mean, totally watch the sponsored section, and have it play right after it concludes... uh, you know, to enhance the sponsorship or whatever.
The lost kingdoms series were really good. The first one had a very cool opening sequence, the sound track was beautiful to listen to, and it overall had a lot of charm.
Lost kingdoms 2 greatly improved on the gameplay elements of the first, but it fell short one the things that made one so good.
I love games where you can evolve and transform yours characters and weapons to see what they can turn into. So lost kingdoms was perfect for me.
There was a 2?
Honestly, as someone who played LK2 ages ago, but owns LK1, I actually liked LK2 more in almost every way... it just had so much more work required to find all the fun stuff.
I especially love the fact LK2 allows you to use LK1's final boss towards the end of the game.
IMHO, LK1's biggest issue is the fact it's secret bosses require you to literally just get lucky, as they're barely accessible without getting certain cards from certain levels, which you can't just replay the levels in order to get.
LK1 with a simple mod that allowed you to replay levels AND get the final boss card select reward again would improve the game like 10 fold.
One interesting feature in Skies of Arcadia is it's discovery system. You can "discover" various locations and objects to earn extra money. The interesting thing is, and this is never mentioned in game, it has hidden timers baked into it. If you take too long to find each one as it becomes accessible on the world map, other NPCs can discover it first instead resulting in a vastly reduced discovery reward.
Evolution Worlds was my jam as a kid, though yeah, little interest in revisiting it.
Pretty sure Custom Robo counts as an RPG if the X-Men Legends games count.
Yeah. I was gonna' say. Custom Robo is an action RPG. Reminds me A LOT of Pokemon Colosseum.
Evolution Worlds was one of the first RPGs I ever played. Rented it from blockbuster as a kid. Good memories.
Glad to see others who feel Custom Robo deserves to make the list. I remember the game being fun as hell, and the story was very good!
Custom Robo is kind of hard to call an RPG. Every battle and all of the progression is story-gated, there's no way to prepare for the next battle other than changing your part loadout, the closest thing it has to 'secret' parts are the things you can only earn in the post-game, it has none of the typical RPG elements other than the story.
Still a damn good game though. I'd be interested in a more RPG take on Custom Robo.
You can't level up in Custom Robo though, no ? In the Gamecube one, there's no levels and it's linear. You go from story battle to story battle.
I loved Command Mission. It gave us Marino. And Zero was a badass in that game.
Best Zero theme hands down
I was so happy to see Bauldur's gate dark alliance on this list. I have so many fond memories of playing that game with my older brother as a little kid! Better times.
I had been recently wanting to play Command Mission again and finally had the feeling begin to waver as I don't have an easy way to play it. I then I watch this and now I want to play it again. I'm glad it's not just my rose-tinted nostalgia glasses making me think it was a nice and solid game.
Emulate it
so happy to see someone talk about baten kaitos! i was eager the entire video to see if you would. i find the way the cards change with time so fascinating,like how milk can turn into cheese and yogurt,and how you can snap a picture of monsters to get money for it,but the sharper and newer the picture is the more valuable. its honestly a really unique system that deserves some praise
This and your SNES RPG video are awesome ideas! Basically helping everyone find new games to play. Love the new ideas you been trying Jared
Lost Kingdoms 2 was one of my favourite games on the system back in the day. I booted it back up a few years ago, saw the FromSoft logo drop and was like WAIT WHAT?! How far they've come. I wonder what a LK3 would look like .
It's worth noting that LK2 has way more than 4hrs of content due to several unlockable areas outside of the main story, and of course finding and "evolving" all the cards.
If from actually went back to this game today, they could totally improve upon it! I want me card game back!
Heck, LK 1 had way more than 4 hours. Its all about how you play the games I guess.
5:40 Just to say for those interested, there is a person who took the hardwork out of the emulator scene to allow 4 people to connect and play Crystal Chronicles with no issues. Legend of Zelda 4 Swords as well.
Hook a brother up?
@@SolarFlairIsBestPony Dunno if I can do direct links but if you search "How To Play FFCC Online (Dolphin & VBA Emulators)" should take you directly to the Reddit post for his guide and discord.
Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn were easily my 2 best Fire Emblem games, those were the games that introduced me to the series and the gameplay is amazing! Those games have the best interface and I love almost all the characters of the game
But it's too slow and clanky.
@@stellarkymthis is your first time playing Turn based or JRPGs?
@@nah4467 Nope. It's just that Path of Radiance is WAY TOO slow compared to other TRPGs
The Gamecube may only have a small selection of RPGs, but, man, what a lineup it is. There are several games I'd consider strong contenders for the top 10 RPGs ever and a lot of the rest is very solid to great, with only a limited number of sub-par games overall.
If I had to pick favorites in a top 3 list I'd probably pick Lord of the Rings: The Third Age, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door and either Megaman X: Command Mission or Skies of Arcadia.
Another The Third Age connoisseur 😎
No rpg and GameCube are different things
Pokémon XD was probably my favorite. It was so different from most Pokémon games. It was actually my very first Pokemon game, I wouldn’t play a mainline one until Diamond and Pearl came out. It was decently challenging, the story was cool, and the shadow Pokémon were badass
I know it's shallow and stupid, but I avoided it because it has XD in the title. I actually loved Coloseum!
If you still own it you can sell it for a couple hundred $/£ these days
I can’t get it to work anymore, but even if I could I wouldn’t sell it
I can't *not* read the title as someone laughing condescendingly at the word Pokémon.
Similarly, I played Colosseum before any mainline game (that would have been Sapphire), although my first game was Stadium.
I like XD more though, I must have played it through 30+ times by now
Tales of Symphonia is the number 1 JRPG on the GC. It literally got me into the genre.
Personally Path of Radiance is my favorite Fire Emblem game. I'm surprised you didn't like the dialog, because I found it way less cliche'd than the following FE games. Most of the characters feel like actual characters, rather than walking tropes (for example Ike seems like he's going to be the virtuous meathead character, but he's not stupid and he pays attention to other's situations). In my opinion, the maps are solid and varied, the plot makes sense, the characters are good, the lord promotes at a decent time and gets some fun toys, the soundtrack is outstanding, and none of the battle preparations ever feel like busywork (which is an issue I have with Three Houses).
Man, also has the best forge in the series imo Naming weapons and coloring them was pretty cool.
Yeah, seconding this! It's the only FE I've really played (still looking to remedy that), but I'd definitely consider it one of the best games on the GC. I also felt the dialogue/characters were a strong point and was surprised by that comment - I'm guessing maybe it's just the sheer *volume* of it that can be overwhelming to some, and might cause them to skip over it.
@@smonkponk Though if you're playing an rpg you should be here for the dialogue at least partially.
I think Path of Radiance is the best Fire Emblem game after Genealogy of the Holy War. Genealogy's story is just unbeatable, though PoR is a close second
@@king_pigeon Genealogy's story may be solid, but it shows its age in gameplay. Enemy turns take forever because there are so many units and the AI thinks slowly, most of the non-magic animations lack impact, etc. PoR definitely plays better.
Skies of Arcadia is such an overlooked gem. I LOVE the game to death and wish more people knew about it. They need to port it to Switch so people can experience it. Path of Radiance and Tales of Symphonic were also huge parts of my childhood as well
Dear God. Lost Kingdom was almost *impossible* to me and my brother. I wanted to progress in it so badly but just never understood it. Got it same day I got Eternal Darkness, the game that pretty much defined my horror taste for life.
Lost Kingdoms 1 is stupidly easy when you finally obtain Whip Worms and spam them. So strong, that Katia uses them In Lost Kingdoms 2 as a Secret Boss in that game.
In Lost Kingdoms 2, To break the game, either use the 2 Rheebus and Golden Phoenix Trick to become inmortal or if you want a more practical And non-gamebreaking Technique, Use the Banshee card to feed EXP to all your cards by giving Banshee the final blow against a ton of enemies. I love both of these games to death and they are so fun. I wish FromSoftware would remake them, seeing how they are remaking some of their old series, I have hope
@@ChillstoneBlakeBlast my only memory of it being difficult was running out of cards almost instsntly. I see them recharging in the video but I recall them just disappearing after use, I remember beating the 2nd zone or something and had literally no cards left
@@TheLastComa yeah, I hear that complait a lot, and the only real way to restore them without Cards that restore cards is running to blue fairies, but in LK1, They can also summon monsters. The game was expected for you to play the game and equip cards you find in the chest to add to your deck, but doing so once makes it so you don't gain cards from Blue fairies anymore. In Lost Kingdoms 2, you change your deck on the fly, only for that level, so you don't "Throw away" your best cards throughout the level.
My best friend and I played Symphonia on the PS3 together. Some of the most fun I’ve ever had playing video games.
I remember getting stuck in Baten Kaitos when I sold a lot of the attack cards only to realize that you cannot buy/upgrade attack cards like you could weapons in other RPGs. So I was unable to beat one of the first major bosses of the game because I was merely flailing about without a way to make real progress in the fight. I stopped playing the game shortly after that. But is was a beautiful game though!
The tragedy is that Vyse, Aika and Fina show up as guest characters in the Valkyria Chronicles series, so Sega knows they have value, knows we want more Skies Of Arcadia. I'd take a port of Legends onto Switch. A lot of these need a little love to be honest, obviously Paper Mario has no business remaining GameCube exclusive.
I would give my liver for a Skies of Arcadia port on the switch!
I ~really~ want to see a proper remaster of SoA with the content of every version in tact and working.
...and then I also want to see a prequel that covers the story of Quetya. See the world before it was shattered, experience the first war of the gigas, and the journey to seal them away.
Can everyone agree that the best parts of the Baiten Kaidos games is the music and worldbuilding? Right? The gameplay kinda suffers compared to those two.
I agree. I remember being fascinated by the world, but hating the gameplay. lol I can't remember if I ended up finishing it myself or just watching my brother finish it. He was a lot more into the gameplay. I got just as drawn into the Xenoblade Chronicles world much later except this time I enjoyed the gameplay more. Still never played Xenoblade Chronicles 2... I need to get on that.
matoi sakuraba's music is iconic. golden sun, valkyrie profile, dark souls and elden ring are all his works too
I still have copies of Baten Kaitos, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Tales of Symphonia sitting on my shelf.
To bad that the picture the Gamecube puts on more modern screens is blurry as hell.
For Symphonia, I recommend playing the more modern ports of it.
@@MistyKathrine I do have the PS3 version that came with the second game aswell.^^
@@riemaennchen Yeah, I have that one. I also have the steam one, which if you install mods to fix most of the bugs, is probably the best version since you can play it at 4K.
tbf the games like PoR and ToS for the most part did 60 fps in exchange. They don't look the best but they damn run very smooth. Although ToS overworld was capped 30
dude, just look up how much they are worth together...
Man I'm just now realizing I either played or owned like nearly all of these as a kid.
Baten kaitos is still my favorite combat system in an rpg to date to the point where I lost my shit when I found a slay the spire mod based on it
Love the format of this video. Introduces games with good commentary, and offers a few seconds of silent gameplay afterwards. Simple, but very effective. Keep videos like this coming please! Love it.
I remember playing Command Mission a ton as a kid. This was a fun video!
MEGAMAN COMMAND MISSION YAY
Lost kingdoms? 4 hours? I kinda remember sinking a good 15~20 hours into both of them, I remember loving how the cards could interact, but hey I guess I just got more to enjoy with them (mostly the second felt much better)
I actually loved those games
...yeah, I have no clue how someone could call LK1 or 2 a 4 hour game unless you're intentionally speedrunning them.
Sure, it's not the longest game ever, but it's definitely longer than your average CoD campaign.
I don't know why but I laughed everytime the butler character in the Evolution Worlds part, pulled out the double barreled shotgun.
So glad to see someone mention Baten Kaitos around here. I am kind of surprised that you said the 1st game had a better story than the 2nd, from my perspective it was the opposite: With more characters joining the party, the story felt like it had to be divided more to accommodate them, leaving everyone with a smaller slice of the pie. Origins, with it's 3 member cast, felt way more in-depth in terms of character development by the time of the game's ending. I will certainly concede however that the 1st game had a much more interesting plot twist, that took me off-guard when playing.
Lost kingdoms also known as Rune in JP, is a fantastic game that needs to come back. I don't much care for the first game, but the second was a hit with my friends and I. The card deck building, evolving monsters into different cards & learning of the different elements of cards is how i got hooked. I know the focus of the video was on RPG style, but this needs a better review for fans. It's something I still play to this day that from software could totally improve upon with their skills today.
I whole heartedly agree with this.
If they actually improved upon the formula they had, and added a fleshed out story and characters... as well as actual game length, they could have a really good game on their hands.
Heck... they could actually make a Dark Souls esque type game out of it.
The core mechanics are there, they just need to improve a bunch of the other aspects.
I am also a shameless LK fan.
I want more.
I pine for a sequel to the Lost Kingdoms games. I get why Jared wasn't too impressed, but his biggest complaint of their length is more a plus for me, since the games had very little padding and constant gameplay changes in the form of new cards, they're so easy to replay. I have my own criticisms of the games, but the core system of an action rpg based around a deck of monsters you summon to fight for you is very original and has so much potential in the hands of what current FromSoftware could do.
Yeah man, if they did a remaster of 1 + 2 as a combo game, then made a shiny sequel with even more cards using everything they know how to do now as a company, it would be a total hit.
As someone that's played FF: Crystal Chronicles as of late with a friend, yeah they did the new ports of it really dirty. Dungeons are fine, but the additional part of the game, building your village, was so GOOD with friends! Even if it's so you're not trying to play through with, like, 8 different characters and their families.
I wanted to be able to play multiplayer for the first time so badly. I couldn't afford a GBA and Gamecube, let alone games for both. I played it to death single player. But they ruined it.
Dude, Summoner: A Goddess Reborn (Also known as Summoner 2) is totally an under rated gem! The story and lore is so intriguing and the music is so good!
He massively undersold Path of Radiance. That game’s plot blows anything from FE13 onward out of the water, and while it can be a little slow, you can turn off battle animation cutscenes and the map design is top notch.
Man Lost Kingdoms was one of my favorites as a kid.
Looking back I can see your points, but this was just one of those games that I played so much it just has me by nostalgia.
I remember after finishing the game that one of the levels had these four doors that just would not open, and had no idea what to do to open them.
This was before I had steady Access to the internet.
So I just had to assume I needed to do something with the specific elements the Doors were based on and something would happen...
IT TOOK SO MANY MISSIONS, but by doing so I got new missions, new cards, and I THINK I unlocked the Doppelganger Card
Fun Times
I remember really liking the lost kingdoms games. I think the only other game out there like those games is Folklore for ps3.
I wouldn’t mind longer form compilation videos like this tbh. I usually listen to long videos while at work.
Skies of Arcadia is so important to me. During the 16-bit era I wasn't much of an RPG guy. Probably because I was a kid and these "wordy" games weren't available in my mother tongue. Next gen, I only owned a N64 that notoriously lacked JRPGs or at least I wasn't interested enough to find them.
It was Skies of Arcadia on GC that made me fall in love with JRPGs. After that I also got a PS2 and got to first experience some PSX and PS2 classics.
Kinda glad you mentioned that Symphonia “doesn’t hold up as well” as later Tales entries, as that reflects my feelings toward it. Still a great game, but one that has definitely aged; I generally find the likes of Abyss and Vesperia more appealing, at least in that middle era of Tales, from Symphonia to…whichever one was before Xillia, kinda hazy on which entries were 11 and 12.
As a side note, I don’t think too many people like that Wii sequel, but I personally do.
I disagree for Vesperia is fucking hard and has all kinds of difficulty spikes. Not to mention a final boss that reduces you to 1hp...and can steal health. Game is fun but Yuri vs generic mobs and spamming Dragon Swarm or die isn't good game design either lol. I think all three are the best in some shape or form. And after Arise's story...yeah I'd argue Symphonia holds up way better on that part. Game is still 60 fps besides the overworld which is more than most games for the time. Had a lot to do in terms of quests and the music still has some of the best in the series. Abyss is solid so is Vesperia and Symphonia imo. Why we gotta diss games that don't have modern issues like today such as making the game intentionally hard to sell leveling ARISE. Or have a mishmash Vesperia/Symphonia story that ends up going nowhere and feels worse than both...ARISE. All games have faults imo but idk I always felt like Abyss, Symphonia, and Vesperia were just the best Tales could offer in some way for getting into the series...other than I would say play Symphonia than Vesperia because it's a lot harder.
@@nah4467 For the record, I am not saying that Symphonia is a bad game, just that it shows its age the most. And I completely agree on your point of Symphonia, Abyss, and Vesperia being a good trifecta of games to get people into the series.
In terms of Vesperia’s difficulty spikes, however, I don’t really remember the general issues, but there’s one in particular that was a thorn in my side, one that Definitive Edition straight up fixed. That being the Schwann fight, where they throw a super tough boss at you at a point where you might as well not have a healer (I hear Karol can become a good healer in NG+, but you’re screwed the first time around). The lack of heals is the main issue there; as such, it falls in one of the brief moments where DE gives you Flynn. That one change made the fight so much easier.
Symphonia's combat is so so so dull and unfun to me coming off of Vesperia. Blocks take ages to come out, only having access to six Artes at a time sucks, and there's just not as much flow between moves. Playing Yuri feels fluid and responsive, playing Lloyd just constantly feels clunky.
@@nah4467 Who plays Yuri? Judith is where it's at. Air juggling and Moonbeam keep you safe and deal respectable damage
dotnw is an absolutely amazing game that unfortunately suffers from being randomly marketed and made a sequel instead of it's own dedicated game.
I spent WAY too much time making the most crazy and overpowered monsters. Like an absolutely immortal leech due to most enemy types being unable to hit them consistently.
In all honesty, a dotnw-esque game that didn't even have player characters and thus just played more like something like monster rancher would be insanely fun.
My personal opinion on Symphonia is that it holds up, you just have to understand your expectations for it.
I still love playing the game every now and then.
It's just the same sort of thing you have to do when playing most older games... you have to understand that things won't work the same as the more recent games.
...Also the minmaxer exploiter in me will always love dawn of the new world for the simple reason that insta-cast 1-tp marta exists.
One series I always wish had made its way into GameCube will forever be Breath of Fire, and this video honestly just reminds me of that a lot. The series, to me at least, feels like it would've fit right in with games like TTYD and Tales of Symphonia.
The only one I can think of, which may not have entirely fallen into your category maybe, that you could've missed would've been "Custom Robo"! I loved that game and followed the series. I'd classify it as an RPG, but I could see with it missing a standardize leveling system why it might've been labelled something else.
I remember playing both of the Lost Kingdoms games as a kid, and I think they could do with a remaster/reboot.
They would be a welcome game type change into the current generation which seems to focus on an overabundance of FPS type games.
Of course, they'd have to actually flesh things out and put in an actual developed story and such, but the core mechanics are there and can be improved upon.
Can't wait to see you tackle the other systems later on down the road. Especially the Wii, I feel that's one of the systems that was starving for some RPG games (this is coming from a huge JRPG fan lol)
Also, anything past Phantasy Star IV shouldn't be slept on. Especially Phantasy Star Universe.
Fun fact about Pokemon XD; originally, the main villain of the game was going to be Wes from Colosseum. Reason being that Wes wasn't actually a good guy, he was a former member of the criminal group who made the Shadow Pokemon. He was supposed to have been gathering the shadow pokemon so no one else but him could have them but him.
With how much Jared uses paper mario music in his videos I have been waiting ages for him to talk about the series in any regard. I will take this.
Definitely not the best platform for RPGs that generation but definitely had some gems. Personally dug Baten Kaitos, Tales of Symphonia, Path of Radiance and TTYD
X-Men Legends was decent but either Ultimate Alliance game absolutely demolishes the Legends games quality wise
Try gladius you will not be dissappointed
I can't even express my level of joy seeing Skies of Arcadia, Pokemon Colosseum, ToS, Baten Kaitos, and FFCC all in one video. These games, plus Smash Melee, Sonic Riders, and Need for Speed: Most Wanted ate so much of my time as a teen. Wonderful memories
YES! Tales of Symphonia is one of my fav games of all time!
Despite the lack of RPGs, GameCubes exclusive titles and 1st Party lineup was so worth it. Local play with 4 players was some insane fun. Most of my best memories during that generation was with the GameCube.
This video went WAY different to what I expected. I'm genuinely surprised it wasn't just one or two short sentences about each game, and some 20+ minutes of Jared just gashing about A Thousand Year Door.
Heavily disagree about PoR, it's one of the best FE games. The fact that Jared loves Awakening but said PoR is "meh" tells me he doesn't have the best taste when it comes to the series...
The first time I watched this I swear I didn't catch the Paper Mario mention and only saw it at the end with a "well that's everything I think", which would have been the funniest troll move Jared could have ever pulled.
Path of Radiance has my vote for the best soundtrack on Gamecube. They just absolutely nailed the music in this game. Every song is just phenomenal.
I'm thoroughly disappointed in Capcom not including MMX: Command Mission in the X Legacy Collection.
Bruh if they (meaning Capcom) couldn’t even remember who Mega Man EXE. was when Sakurai wanted to use the mega mans across their history for Mega Man’s final smash, they won’t remember a underrated game like Command Mission.
The Gamecube really did have some cool RPGs. I never owned any of them, sadly. I think the only Gamecube game that I had was Goldeneye. I haven't touched it in *years.*
I’m playing evolution worlds right now and I wish this game got brought back as a remake, or even the characters back for another story. I loved the cyframes.. and I love the grind cuz of the skills and stuff idk guilty pleasure lol.
"A LucasArts game that has nothing to do with Star Wars."
So, like Monkey Island, Full Throttle, Grim Fandango, Sam & Max, Day of the Tentacle, The Dig, Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe, Loom, Zombies Ate My Neighborhood, Thrillville and Outlaws?
Big fan of Lost Kingdoms. I wish FromSoftware would eventually take a look back at older franchises and made a new, more in-depth Lost Kingdoms sequel... Instead of just releasing Demon's Souls over and over.
Lost Kingdoms 2 is actually the very first game I bought with a paycheck from a part-time job back in high school.
I never realized until watching this video, most of these RPGs I was either introduced to or I just so happened to walk in on my friend(s) playing them, Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, and a few others. I did however know about or played older games such as PSO, Skies of Arcadia, and Paper Mario, and their are a surprising amount of gems in there as well, the Gamecube was a great console for getting lesser known titles into the limelight or mainstream media as it were.
I remember and owned a lot of these. Getting the Doppleganger in Lost Kingdom was both awesome and creepy. It summoned a copy of you that slowly walked around the level, and would instantly drag anything it touched into the ground and instantly killed it.
I was so excited to play Digimon World 4.
Then I played it.
I didn't get too far into it, never finished it, and have no plan to go back to it. Crystal Chronicles I absolutely loved, and played a lot when I was younger.
The only games I can think that count as RPGs that wasn't covered here (at least that I personally own) would be Custom Robo, Medabots Infinity, and maybe Gauntlet ? Otherwise what a great trip down memory lane. I'd love to own all of them someday 😅
Wow, Jared you were really rough on the Baten Kaitos games. Let me respectfully disagree and heartilly recommend them.
The first one has goofy voice acting, but a nice story with a battle system that grows in intensity until the very end. There is tons of stuff to do in a beautiful world, and the MUSIC IS SO GOOD. Motoi Sakuraba (Golden Sun, Dark Souls series) just goes to town.
The second game is a faster take on the first one, with better characters and a more focused story, but a little less good. Still, awesome music by Sakuraba and good writing for the characters. They have flaws, but I think they can easily be overlooked.
Tales of Symphonia changed my life. Not only was it the first game I played of my favorite video game series but it also started a several years long history of new friends and experiences. I will forever be thankful for my first time playing the game on GameCube and everything that I got from it. I also liked Mega Man X Command Mission though I never finished it. I think the only other GameCube RPG I have experience with is the Yu-Gi-Oh one that I watched my best friend play at his house. I've been keeping my eye on Lost Kingdoms and Digimon World 4 for my collection though.
Baten Kaitos is probably my favorite RPG ever, legit. Nothing was more satisfying than pulling a 1-9 Final Straight Sunrise for like 306% more damage on the final boss lol
I would have included Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life. TTYD is always an amazing game, certainly one of my favorites.
He said he would not include simulation games at the beginning. And no, being a Role Playing Game has nothing to do with Playing a role
Harvest Moon isn’t a RPG, Rune Factory definitely is though
Baten Kaitos is the one game that prevents me from selling my GameCube. I can't explain why, but I just love revisiting it every several years.
I wow I really love reading the comments here and seeing people praising their favorite games. Its very wholesome
Baten Kaitos not having a good story? Bruh, its so unique and has multiple plottwists. It even has a dark vader moment lol. Its corny and its voiceacting is a bit over the top, but damn its so good. I replayed it in 2021 and it still plays very well and fluent. Its so kreative, has such a unique style and the music is so beautiful. I wanna hear someone ramble about this game in an essay pls.
BK doesn't have a good story until you finish it.
Then you're just like "wtf" and it stays with you the rest of your life. Which is 100% what I consider a good story to be.
Surprised that Custom Robo isn't on the list. True, there's no "level-up" but, the RPG elements are there and makes it one of my favorites on the Gamecube.
I quite like Falsebound Kingdom. I do accept that it's slow and a little clunky, and while you can field 8 Marshals Yugi gets a pool of ten and Kaiba has at most seven. But it's fun to explore, find where new monsters are, build your party how you want. And level up monsters to get new abilities.
Also, with Tea you never actually lose.
Tales of Symphonia is my pick for the best Gamecube RPG! You were barely able to scratch the surface of the MASSIVE list of content and features in this game! You can play as any of the NINE unique party members almost whenever you want (they have to at least be with you obviously), and each one has unique weapons, skills, spells, and strengths. Using the "Strike/Tech" meter on your characters means that each character also has two separate lists of skills they can learn, so you can customize each play through with different skills... or just swap them to the other side, forget their skills, and learn the other ones wherever you want! And since it's real time combat, it feels like you're playing Smash Bros or a fighting game. Each play through will last you from 50 to 80 hours each, depending on how much you want to experience! I beat the game like seven times before I finally was able to complete everything!
The main negative is that some of the puzzle solving in the dungeons isn't very fun. Thankfully, the bad puzzles aren't numerous, and they don't last long.
The story is also massive, and it wasn't until the sequel on the Wii that several of the game's mysteries were finally solved. I'd recommend this game to anyone! The Gamecube version also the only one that natively runs at 60FPS, so it looks and plays fantastic.
I suddenly want to play PSO. I loved that game so much when I was in school. All my friends were into it and it was before the internet as it is today, so there was no real way to find out what was in the game or most effective ways to level and what-not. Which led to a lot of fun moments. Stuff like finding a red drop and having it be something crazy, then getting to go show it off to the group was just amazing. I really miss that kind of thing.