The Cinderella Man movie was so unfair to such a great compassionate guy he really was; one of the greats for sure; a style all his own and copied by many greats to come; my favorite all time champion for sure !!
Yea i know, Max Baer even helped paying for Frankie Campbell's family to go to college and he felt really terrible for killing him that it literally haunted him for the rest of his life. The movie portrayed him in a terrible way completely opposite to his true personality and showed him as a cold blooded killer, i guess Hollywood always needs a bad guy for its movies.
When his opponent was helpless on the ropes Baer refused to hit him. He knew the power of his right and it could be lethal on a hurt fighter. I respect Baer for this.
In the book IN THIS CORNER, Jim Braddock said that Max was a very nice guy. Those were Braddock's own words. The movie turned him into Mr. T. which he was not.
True story: When referee Jack Dempsey waved the fighters back after the knockdown and Pat Comiskey was out on his feet against the ropes, Max Baer yelled at Dempsey, "Well, what else do you want me to do to him?!" Great guy, great fighter, superior showman who was far ahead of his time. Today, Max Baer would be a billionaire.
Cinderella Man THE BOOK is a great read. Maxie was a tragic clown that could do anything and had a long career in show biz. after he killed Frankie Campell (he later paid for his kid's college) he was never really the same and started smoking.
Nobody has mentioned it here, but, Max really was a devastating puncher. In the early part of his career, he gave Frankie Campbell a severe beating resulting in Campbell's death. A couple of years later he fought Ernie Schaaf knocking him out after inflicting tremendous punishment. In Schaaf's next bout against Primo Carnera, he was lackluster and never mounted any kind of offense. He was ko'd in the sixth round and died. It was generally agreed on by all the experts that the beating he had taken from Baer a couple of months before was the real reason he died. Max lost that "killer" instinct from that point on. You will notice how after knocking out Comiskey, he ran over to help him and see how badly he was hurt. Max was a better boxer than this film clip shows.
+Chuck Berger Baer was one of the greats; that overhand right that nobody saw coming was devastating; he should have been champion longer than he was; getting into a slugfest with him was a mistake; Plus he was a real warmhearted guy !!! One of my all time favorites for sure !!
Doesn't Cominsky play the character Gus Dundee ( Ernie Schaaf) in the boxing movie "The Harder They Fall" , which also stars the guy who knocks Cominsky out in this video?
(see below) Seeing Baer at the weigh-ins, Dad stated that the press nickname for Baer, "the body beautiful," was well deserved. Quickly showering after his bout, Dad made it into the audience in time to see Baer KO Comiskey. He likened Baer's devastating overhand right to "throwing a baseball," which I've found an apt description after watching almost all of Max's filmed contests. I have the poster from this contest, obtained by Dad after the fight, featuring the names of all the contestants. Thanks for posting this video.
Baer may have learned that fastball right hand from studying Joe Louis. Louis was usually an economical puncher but his arsenal included that baseball pitch style right hand while he leaned to one side, drawing the opponent's defense down to guard the body. Salvador Sanchez perfected that dipping overhand right years later.
Best footage of bout ever. Really clear. Thanks for posting. Max Baer could really punch! You can see him telling Dempsey to stop the fight and afterward his concern for the other boxer. Both were in the movie "The Harder they Fall".
Awesome stuff mate. My dad had about 35 amateurs bouts, 2x state champ and all the rest. Your dad must be a gun and i know how proud you must be! Is he still around today if you dont mind me asking?
I think the were using a high speed camera to be able to replay in slow motion and somehow they mixed up the speed when rendering the interview scene:). The sound was recorded on the same film reel as the video, for synchronizing purposes.
I never realized the great Jack Kearns speaking voice was so high.. lol P.S....Of course it must be rare to hear Kearns speaking since he managed Dempsey in the silent era of Media.....🥊
Max put up a great showing here, his body movement is surprisingly good here, and he actually slips several of his opponents hits, like the punch at 6:00 where he does a great counter.
I think this Comiskey is who played Gus Dundee in The Harder They Fall, Bogarts last film. EDIT - IT IS HIM!! Highly recommend the film to all boxing fans, or anyone. My favorite movie .
Comiskey is pretty neat and organised. Baer is wild, and that was his rep (because most people weren't), but he's not as wild as, for instance. Deontay Wilder.
Max was FAST. by this time he had also developed his left to go along with his incredible right. Louis said it was his best fight when he beat him. everything was right with him that night. Baer had bad hands, especially for the Louis fight according to his younger brother Buddy who fought Louis twice, the first time knocking Louis out of the ring. Max was a clown who loved the ring and the fame, but after the Campell killing, he was never the same. he put Campell's kids through school. after Cambell he started smoking. ironic that he played a killer in the ring in Bogie's last film, The Harder They Fall, loosely based on Primo Carnera who Bear knocked down 10 times to win his championship. Max loved the show but not the violence. he begged Dempsey, a true killer in the ring, to stop the fight to stop further harm to Comiskey.
I remember looking at this fight and thinking to myself "well, all it's going to take is one good right hand from Max Baer, and then we'll see what Pat Cominsky is made out of." Well, we saw what happened.
@@andrewrichmond2476 Opposite, He actually began wearing the star of david during his fight with Schmelling, as a symbol of protest against the Nazi treatment of jews (this might explain why he trained like hell, and fought like he was possessed that fight). He probably wasn't wearing it here because most boxers have multiple trunks, and theres no deeper reason.
Time marches on. We all get older. I was looking at a Ring magazine from 1977 (I was 22 at the time) and did the math. 43 years old. Where did the time go?
I've seen Comiskey listed as 6'3 and as high as 220 lbs. Same size as Foreman when he fought Ali, and known as a big puncher. Not carrying any extra weight here at 207, and seems to have a pretty tidy style for a big dude. Max looks pretty wild, but effective against a sharper technician. These guys are no walkovers, in any era.
no the reason why boxers fought this way was because gloves were smaller so they kept there hands farther away from the face to block and head off line also with smaller gloves fighters focused more on hard shots to the body so they wouldn't break there hands
Long before boxers like Emanuel Augustus or Naseem Hamed used to clown in the ring, well before Adrien "the Problem" Broner spawned more kids than he could support (even while racking up seven-figure fight purses), there was Max Baer, the original clown prince of boxing. Baer was movie star handsome, quick-witted, and actually had legitimate acting chops (I remember seeing him Humphrey Bogart's last vehicle, "The Harder they fall," and being impressed with him). Like many greats, Baer killed a man early in his career, and the specter of his felled opponent hung over the remainder of his days like a cloud. Depending on who you ask, Baer was also the first Jewish heavyweight champion of the world.
Look how Baer put weight on before this fight. His killer instinct was finished after his first killed opponent . Ad. He should have quit the game after becoming king.
I love the way that the announcer blows Pat Comiskey up as the "next person in line to challenge for the Heavyweight Crown of Joe Louis" (or words to that effect). I was thinking....."All it's going to take is 1 SHOT from Max Baer" and that is pretty much all it took. I will say this about Pat Comiskey: He had the wherewithal to stay down and try to clear his head instead of jumping up too fast and taking a chance on REALLY getting hurt. Good fight. The more I watch Max Baer, the more I like him.
I've commented on this subject on other sites. Max was quite capable of beating the prime George Foreman. Max was quite athletic, excellent movement for a big guy, same height as Foreman, world class chin, excellent stamina and his KO percentage is far lower than Foreman's because Max competed in an era when opponents were better boxers. Foreman had his attributes, but he preferred opponents who were there to hit. He had difficulty with Gregorio Peralta, an excellent Argentine boxer, Jimmy Young and avoided Jerry Quarry a guy who knew how to use the ring and hit with power. Max could have competed in today's "market". There's no doubt in my mind.
Vincent Fisher I disagree with some of your synopsis. While Max Baer was a very good fighter, he was by no means "great". He lost to Louis who was much shorter than he but also a big puncher. Foreman NEVER lost a bout to a big puncher or knockout artist. He dispatched every one of them; Frazier (twice), Lyle, Norton, Cooney, Moorer. He fought Holyfield, a hell of a boxer and puncher to a near draw and you're going to say he ducked Jerry Quarry? Give me a break. Foreman would've out boxed and certainly out punched Quarry. Foreman's boxing skills were much better than you give him credit for.
At the end of the first Peralta bout Foreman was breathing hard and appeared he wanted to drop (watch the film). Of course this bout was at the beginning of his remarkable career but he has admitted to avoiding Quarry. The Quarry who defeated Foster and Lyle would have easily handled Foreman who was primarily concerned with power, not boxing finesse. Jimmy Young, not known has a big puncher, dropped Foreman through exhaustion. Quarry had better footwork than Foreman, hit far harder than Young, and was an excellent counter puncher especially off of the ropes. Max Baer is listed at 6'3" and Louis at 6' 2" (hardly "much shorter). Louis was considered as a scary" Mother" way back when though you and so many others have decided that Joe Louis wasn't that special. Louis is still special in my humble opinion. also, Max was very fluid in his footwork (the films shown on youtube prove this) and he was quick in squeezing the trigger when unleashing punches. Also he was usually quite durable and could take a hell of a shot. I actually prefer the older Foreman. He was solid in skills, had the bulk and toughness to accept punishment. and was very patient. Sooner or later he knew he could hit the home run, and he did against Michael Moorer.
+Vincent Fisher I think it should be noted that Max Baer had a broken right hand going into that fight with Louis (and he still went almost four rounds with Louis before he was ko'd!) That fight probably would have been alot different if Baer was 100%.
I notice at the end, the interviewer said to Comiskey, "Pat this was only your 30th fight wasn't it?" And the implication seemed to be that he was still a promising novice. Look at the scene today. Thirty fights and it's a career, and in those 30 fights, if they're halfway good they've won at least one of the current crop of Pick n' Mix world titles. Incredible, laughable!
Back then you had to fight a lot of tomato can tune up fights to earn a paycheck if you were not the champ in between your sanctioned fights with ranked contenders; and of course, the champ. Marciano and I'm sure Dempsey did the same thing as well.
omg. you have not got a clue about boxing if you think what you saw here was amateurish because todays heavywieghts are wouldnt stand with a fighter like baer
This is one of the very few pre-1960s bouts that almost begins to look modern, the others being Conn/Louis and some of the old Sugar Ray and maybe Ezzard Charles bouts. But man, look at those gloves - they look like they can't be much more than three or four ounces!
If Madcap Maxie would have learned the sport more better and took boxing more seriously what could he have been? Alas he never let success go to his training 😪
Did Baer's trainer tell Dempsey, " you could be next" right after Jack did the opening announcement? Fuck those old school guys had a classy way of talking shit and joking.
Fascinating footage man thanks for putting this up. Watching these old heavies is food for thought. All looks a bit wild and amateurish - Cant see these guys living with modern heavyweights
Have to agree. Technique seems to have improved dramatically starting in the '60s and '70s and continuing on to the present. Even Joe Louis looks like a chump compared to today's fighters. That said, it does seem that you can see the beginnings of modern technique in Louis, Walcott, and especially the middleweight Sugar Ray Robinson and the light heavyweight Billy Conn. Conn even had Louis beat till he made the mistake of crudely and cockily going toe-to-toe in the final round when he was well ahead on the scorecards. That style, which prefigured today's stick-and-dance, was making all the difference then, and has been doing so ever since.
munchkie cocoa baer would have to go through new boxing regulations and would probably fight with 8 oz. gloves so he probably wouldn't be able to knock him out.
Max was so very "badly portrayed by Ron Howard" But what do you expect Ron, Ron never was or will be a good director, he Hollywood's boy, they were kind to him. I would have explored the human side of Max, why he didn't really always train properly for fights, he really did not belong in the ring, he loved people you can see that, he hated hurting boxers, that would have been a better way to go, the power and the conflict to use that inside him, that would be a story, but oh no, not from Ron.
My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90
Baer was physically gifted and a great power puncher. Tyson was also physically gifted, had similar power, and also had far superior foot/hand speed, body/head movement and punching technique. Imagine Baer fighting Dempsey, but even more brutal. Baer had a good chin though, so I can see this lasting longer than one might expect, but the end result stays the same.
@@keeganbluegrass my video shows exactly how this era fought and his era fought, does in that video does that version of Joe look like he actually or anybody from his time look like they would land anything on people Mike fought? he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs guys in 70s-90s, so how is this a good match?
@@simonmiller2361with what? my video shows exactly how this era fought and his era fought, does in that video does that version of Joe look like he actually or anybody from his time look like they would land anything on people Mike fought? he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs guys in 70s-90s, so how is this a good match?
His paternal grandmother was Jewish, while his paternal grandfather was Lutheran and his mother's parents were Anglo-Irish Catholics, I believe. He and brother Buddy wore the Star in solidarity with their Jewish brethren during the Nazi era. Yet another thing you gotta love about these guys. With three gentile grandparents, they would not have been subject to the Nuremberg Laws, but that didn't matter to them. Those 'laws' themselves, and the lunatic bigotry they manifested, were the problem, and the Baer boys ever after wore the Star to say 'up yours, Nazi scum, and all you dirty Klansmen too.'
Indeed, very similar stylewise. Both very athletically gifted and powerful, but lacked most fundamentals in defense and technique. Deontay Vs Baer would have been a war.
@@keeganbluegrassno one made midcard fighting like these guys in 70s-90s so why would they now?,makes no sense at all deon is way more advanced would destroy these guys
Yet louis wouldn't according to lunatics for years, yet he had the same obsolete flaws and tech as guys in this era, my video shows the average person in the 70s-90s was way more advanced than this whole Novice era
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The Cinderella Man movie was so unfair to such a great compassionate guy he really was; one of the greats for sure; a style all his own and copied by many greats to come; my favorite all time champion for sure !!
Yes, the depiction of Baer in the Cinderella was a disgrace. He was treated very unfairly in the film. Shameful
Tim Klein They only did it because the movie needed an antagonist
Yea i know, Max Baer even helped paying for Frankie Campbell's family to go to college and he felt really terrible for killing him that it literally haunted him for the rest of his life. The movie portrayed him in a terrible way completely opposite to his true personality and showed him as a cold blooded killer, i guess Hollywood always needs a bad guy for its movies.
Defamation is a favorite hum pass-time.
Tim yes there is something very appealing about Max Baer, he had talent and a very big heart. Great human being.
When his opponent was helpless on the ropes Baer refused to hit him. He knew the power of his right and it could be lethal on a hurt fighter.
I respect Baer for this.
In the book IN THIS CORNER, Jim Braddock said that Max was a very nice guy. Those were Braddock's own words. The movie turned him into Mr. T. which he was not.
Max was one of toughest men of that era, with the greatest overhand right to this day. A great legend!!!
timeing for that right hand whas awsome also
Man imagine if he was able to land that overhand as often as Frazier landed his left hook , we might just get the greatest heavyweight ever
Every punch Max threw was a bomb.
True story: When referee Jack Dempsey waved the fighters back after the knockdown and Pat Comiskey was out on his feet against the ropes, Max Baer yelled at Dempsey, "Well, what else do you want me to do to him?!" Great guy, great fighter, superior showman who was far ahead of his time. Today, Max Baer would be a billionaire.
One of the great right hands of all time!!!
Cinderella Man THE BOOK is a great read. Maxie was a tragic clown that could do anything and had a long career in show biz. after he killed Frankie Campell (he later paid for his kid's college) he was never really the same and started smoking.
Man I loved your comment. Max had it all. He’s a hero of mine. Thankfully, we have a video record of his career.
Too compasinate, to lukewarm, would've made in today's boxing 😗
My Great Grandfather fought Dempsey
Nobody has mentioned it here, but, Max really was a devastating puncher. In the early part of his career, he gave Frankie Campbell a severe beating resulting in Campbell's death. A couple of years later he fought Ernie Schaaf knocking him out after inflicting tremendous punishment. In Schaaf's next bout against Primo Carnera, he was lackluster and never mounted any kind of offense. He was ko'd in the sixth round and died. It was generally agreed on by all the experts that the beating he had taken from Baer a couple of months before was the real reason he died. Max lost that "killer" instinct from that point on.
You will notice how after knocking out Comiskey, he ran over to help him and see how badly he was hurt. Max was a better boxer than this film clip shows.
+Chuck Berger Baer was one of the greats; that overhand right that nobody saw coming was devastating; he should have been champion longer than he was; getting into a slugfest with him was a mistake; Plus he was a real warmhearted guy !!! One of my all time favorites for sure !!
Doesn't Cominsky play the character Gus Dundee ( Ernie Schaaf) in the boxing movie "The Harder They Fall" , which also stars the guy who knocks Cominsky out in this video?
Pat did play the part in the movie The Harder They Fall.
Max could take a punch too; one of the most under rated fighters ever; he was great !!
The boxing gloves looked really small. Not much padding.
Max Baer, born in my home town, Omaha, was a fun loving guy. and not the ogre as depicted in the movie.
Gary Morris I
Gary, Wasn't Marlon Brando and Henry Fonda born in Omaha, as well?
Absolutely true
@@DanielLDees Brand was, and although Fonda grew up in Omaha, he was born elsewhere in Nebraska
(see below) Seeing Baer at the weigh-ins, Dad stated that the press nickname for Baer, "the body beautiful," was well deserved. Quickly showering after his bout, Dad made it into the audience in time to see Baer KO Comiskey. He likened Baer's devastating overhand right to "throwing a baseball," which I've found an apt description after watching almost all of Max's filmed contests. I have the poster from this contest, obtained by Dad after the fight, featuring the names of all the contestants. Thanks for posting this video.
Baer may have learned that fastball right hand from studying Joe Louis. Louis was usually an economical puncher but his arsenal included that baseball pitch style right hand while he leaned to one side, drawing the opponent's defense down to guard the body. Salvador Sanchez perfected that dipping overhand right years later.
Pat Cominsky, aka Gus Dundee from "The Harder They Fall "; also starring Max Baer Sr.
notice the ref in this fight, Jack Dempsey.
The beautiful and brilliant Max Baer, a superb landmark of a boxing legend. I side with Dempsey, that he was a true great, man that right hand!
Best footage of bout ever. Really clear.
Thanks for posting.
Max Baer could really punch! You can see him telling Dempsey to stop the fight and afterward his concern for the other boxer.
Both were in the movie "The Harder they Fall".
my good lord that huge right hand by Max was vicious! I think he could've knocked down a mule.
those two left hooks in between two rights
Comiskey walked right into that right hand.
My Dad, Joe "Goople" McCloskey, of Philadelphia, fought on the undercard of this contest, losing in 4 rounds via TKO to Hank Postaway, of Detroit.
william penn hell of a story mate, any footage of it?
Awesome stuff mate. My dad had about 35 amateurs bouts, 2x state champ and all the rest. Your dad must be a gun and i know how proud you must be! Is he still around today if you dont mind me asking?
My Grandfather fought Dempsey way back. Only lost by decision.
Were they pumping helium into the dressing room for the interview?
Love watching Max fight. What a right!
I think the were using a high speed camera to be able to replay in slow motion and somehow they mixed up the speed when rendering the interview scene:). The sound was recorded on the same film reel as the video, for synchronizing purposes.
I never realized the great Jack Kearns speaking voice was so high.. lol P.S....Of course it must be rare to hear Kearns speaking since he managed Dempsey in the silent era of Media.....🥊
thank you !! great footage
What size were those gloves, they look tiny for heavyweights
Max put up a great showing here, his body movement is surprisingly good here, and he actually slips several of his opponents hits, like the punch at 6:00 where he does a great counter.
Thanks for the video, KATIS99
I think this Comiskey is who played Gus Dundee in The Harder They Fall, Bogarts last film. EDIT - IT IS HIM!! Highly recommend the film to all boxing fans, or anyone. My favorite movie .
Pat also had an uncredited part in Some Like It Hot with Marilyn Monroe.
Comiskey is pretty neat and organised. Baer is wild, and that was his rep (because most people weren't), but he's not as wild as, for instance. Deontay Wilder.
Jack Dempsey vs Max Baer would have been a war.
Yeah, the six day war.
Max was FAST. by this time he had also developed his left to go along with his incredible right. Louis said it was his best fight when he beat him. everything was right with him that night.
Baer had bad hands, especially for the Louis fight according to his younger brother Buddy who fought Louis twice, the first time knocking Louis out of the ring. Max was a clown who loved the ring and the fame, but after the Campell killing, he was never the same. he put Campell's kids through school. after Cambell he started smoking.
ironic that he played a killer in the ring in Bogie's last film, The Harder They Fall, loosely based on Primo Carnera who Bear knocked down 10 times to win his championship. Max loved the show but not the violence. he begged Dempsey, a true killer in the ring, to stop the fight to stop further harm to Comiskey.
Pat Comiskey was in that film too. Ironically he played an Ernie Schaaf type character. Max Baer was a big man with an even bigger heart.
@@stwads so true. the book C Man is a great read.
I remember looking at this fight and thinking to myself "well, all it's going to take is one good right hand from Max Baer, and then we'll see what Pat Cominsky is made out of." Well, we saw what happened.
To be fair not many people could take that right hand coming forward and not get sent to dream land
Notice that the Star of David is absent from Max's trunks at this point in career.
Yeah why?
@@victorparedes4576 Consider the time period...
@@andrewrichmond2476 yeah!!! still racist, antisemitic...peoples
@@andrewrichmond2476 Opposite, He actually began wearing the star of david during his fight with Schmelling, as a symbol of protest against the Nazi treatment of jews (this might explain why he trained like hell, and fought like he was possessed that fight). He probably wasn't wearing it here because most boxers have multiple trunks, and theres no deeper reason.
Max was the king of the haymaker.
Max Baer was a knock out puncher but he was not always too accurate
Comiskey appears tp be a very good and tough fighter.
Quite the understatement.
That overhand right looked pretty damn accurate to me.
He pulled a similar move on Joe Louis at the end of round 2 of their fight in 1935.
Lovely footwork for the ko from max with the slowmo
Max appears very concerned that Comiskey was severely hurt.
walter sobchak he killed two guys before this by punching them to death. He was very concerned
KK, Yes , Ernie Schaaf and Frankie Campbell.
KK, I am sure the concern was sincere.
walter sobchak yeah, by all accounts Baer was a really nice guy and was devastated when they passed away
KK, Yes, those who knew him say Max was one great guy.
who's watching this, but more interested in what Jack Dempsey is doing?
After that one knock down punch there just wasn't any way back for Pat. His resistance had evaporated.
Baer was a Tough Fighter!
It's crazy to think that everyone in this venue are probably all gone now.
Time marches on. We all get older. I was looking at a Ring magazine from 1977 (I was 22 at the time) and did the math. 43 years old. Where did the time go?
I've seen Comiskey listed as 6'3 and as high as 220 lbs. Same size as Foreman when he fought Ali, and known as a big puncher. Not carrying any extra weight here at 207, and seems to have a pretty tidy style for a big dude. Max looks pretty wild, but effective against a sharper technician. These guys are no walkovers, in any era.
Exactly !!
Foreman was three, four inches taller Than Ali who was 6'3"
No. Not even close. George is listed at 6'3-6'4.
20 years old and already 207. Kinda fed to the wolves here though.
@@realdealnealcrook8940 Foreman was 6"3, same as ALi, same as Pat Comskey
no the reason why boxers fought this way was because gloves were smaller so they kept there hands farther away from the face to block and head off line also with smaller gloves fighters focused more on hard shots to the body so they wouldn't break there hands
Long before boxers like Emanuel Augustus or Naseem Hamed used to clown in the ring, well before Adrien "the Problem" Broner spawned more kids than he could support (even while racking up seven-figure fight purses), there was Max Baer, the original clown prince of boxing. Baer was movie star handsome, quick-witted, and actually had legitimate acting chops (I remember seeing him Humphrey Bogart's last vehicle, "The Harder they fall," and being impressed with him). Like many greats, Baer killed a man early in his career, and the specter of his felled opponent hung over the remainder of his days like a cloud. Depending on who you ask, Baer was also the first Jewish heavyweight champion of the world.
Jack Dempsey was 1st Modern Jewish Heavyweight Champ.
he also really held his own with tremendous stars in The Prize Fighter and the Lady.
Max was accustom to the old rules of boxing as they were changing at the time. He was the greatest hitter of all time.
Didn't Dempsey train Baer for a few fights years before this?
Yes.
it was a different style of fighting more bare knuckle modern gloves changed everything
the pride of NJ has no defense
despite one moment of them hesitating like bums trying to outsmart each other, they fought pretty well. GOOD FIGHT.
brony simpson That’s boxing. Just as they said in the interview if the other guy kept up the boxing he would have lasted longer
They had slow mo in the 40's??
Ikr
sound and quality amazing
Baer had a HELL of a right hand...
That's what jacking off can do to a man lol
IMO Max Baer is fighting much better in this fight than the James Braddock fight.
I thought he was going to attack him again after the fight was over, Jethro sr messed him up.
Out of the ring there was no gentler person. Inside the ring was was no more vicious animal.
Look how Baer put weight on before this fight. His killer instinct was finished after his first killed opponent . Ad. He should have quit the game after becoming king.
I love the way that the announcer blows Pat Comiskey up as the "next person in line to challenge for the Heavyweight Crown of Joe Louis" (or words to that effect). I was thinking....."All it's going to take is 1 SHOT from Max Baer" and that is pretty much all it took. I will say this about Pat Comiskey: He had the wherewithal to stay down and try to clear his head instead of jumping up too fast and taking a chance on REALLY getting hurt. Good fight. The more I watch Max Baer, the more I like him.
the book Cinderella Man is great. the movie a sham
Baer should have had a rematch with Louis. Would he have won? Probably not, but it would have been more competitive than the one with his injured hand
I've commented on this subject on other sites. Max was quite capable of beating the prime George Foreman. Max was quite athletic, excellent movement for a big guy, same height as Foreman, world class chin, excellent stamina and his KO percentage is far lower than Foreman's because Max competed in an era when opponents were better boxers. Foreman had his attributes, but he preferred opponents who were there to hit. He had difficulty with Gregorio Peralta, an excellent Argentine boxer, Jimmy Young and avoided Jerry Quarry a guy who knew how to use the ring and hit with power.
Max could have competed in today's "market". There's no doubt in my mind.
Vincent Fisher I disagree with some of your synopsis. While Max Baer was a very good fighter, he was by no means "great". He lost to Louis who was much shorter than he but also a big puncher. Foreman NEVER lost a bout to a big puncher or knockout artist. He dispatched every one of them; Frazier (twice), Lyle, Norton, Cooney, Moorer. He fought Holyfield, a hell of a boxer and puncher to a near draw and you're going to say he ducked Jerry Quarry? Give me a break. Foreman would've out boxed and certainly out punched Quarry. Foreman's boxing skills were much better than you give him credit for.
At the end of the first Peralta bout Foreman was breathing hard and appeared he wanted to drop (watch the film). Of course this bout was at the beginning of his remarkable career but he has admitted to avoiding Quarry. The Quarry who defeated Foster and Lyle would have easily handled Foreman who was primarily concerned with power, not boxing finesse. Jimmy Young, not known has a big puncher, dropped Foreman through exhaustion. Quarry had better footwork than Foreman, hit far harder than Young, and was an excellent counter puncher especially off of the ropes.
Max Baer is listed at 6'3" and Louis at 6' 2" (hardly "much shorter). Louis was considered as a scary" Mother" way back when though you and so many others have decided that Joe Louis wasn't that special. Louis is still special in my humble opinion. also,
Max was very fluid in his footwork (the films shown on youtube prove this) and he was quick in squeezing the trigger when unleashing punches. Also he was usually quite durable and could take a hell of a shot.
I actually prefer the older Foreman. He was solid in skills, had the bulk and toughness to accept punishment. and was very patient. Sooner or later he knew he could hit the home run, and he did against Michael Moorer.
Vincent Fisher Very well stated and accurate about Quarry. It was a matter of styles, and a prime Quarry would have given Big George lots of problems.
+Vincent Fisher George would crush him bro.
+Vincent Fisher I think it should be noted that Max Baer had a broken right hand going into that fight with Louis (and he still went almost four rounds with Louis before he was ko'd!) That fight probably would have been alot different if Baer was 100%.
The best
Tough guy
Comesky dont died un this figth
I notice at the end, the interviewer said to Comiskey, "Pat this was only your 30th fight wasn't it?" And the implication seemed to be that he was still a promising novice. Look at the scene today. Thirty fights and it's a career, and in those 30 fights, if they're halfway good they've won at least one of the current crop of Pick n' Mix world titles. Incredible, laughable!
Back then you had to fight a lot of tomato can tune up fights to earn a paycheck if you were not the champ in between your sanctioned fights with ranked contenders; and of course, the champ. Marciano and I'm sure Dempsey did the same thing as well.
omg. you have not got a clue about boxing if you think what you saw here was amateurish because todays heavywieghts are wouldnt stand with a fighter like baer
Max Baer for a whole string of polukas
These days the referee would have waved off the fight after the first knockdown...and rightly so. Cominsky was done.
Sure glad the Ref stopped the fight thereby saving Lestor’s pretty head.
MAX...MY MAN!
This is one of the very few pre-1960s bouts that almost begins to look modern, the others being Conn/Louis and some of the old Sugar Ray and maybe Ezzard Charles bouts. But man, look at those gloves - they look like they can't be much more than three or four ounces!
because Tyson furry is so awesome...
If Madcap Maxie would have learned the sport more better and took boxing more seriously what could he have been? Alas he never let success go to his training 😪
Did Baer's trainer tell Dempsey, " you could be next" right after Jack did the opening announcement? Fuck those old school guys had a classy way of talking shit and joking.
Dempsey would have destroyed Baer anyway.
@Weetabix You mean if they were in their prime?
It is the real fight
Great fighter MB
Fascinating footage man thanks for putting this up. Watching these old heavies is food for thought. All looks a bit wild and amateurish - Cant see these guys living with modern heavyweights
Have to agree. Technique seems to have improved dramatically starting in the '60s and '70s and continuing on to the present. Even Joe Louis looks like a chump compared to today's fighters. That said, it does seem that you can see the beginnings of modern technique in Louis, Walcott, and especially the middleweight Sugar Ray Robinson and the light heavyweight Billy Conn. Conn even had Louis beat till he made the mistake of crudely and cockily going toe-to-toe in the final round when he was well ahead on the scorecards. That style, which prefigured today's stick-and-dance, was making all the difference then, and has been doing so ever since.
Yeah, the scientific skills of fighters like Deontay Wilder or Joshua are just so far ahead of the crude brawlers like Louis, Schmelling or Tunney,
@@keeganbluegrass😂 that made my day.
Cuidado hacen enojar al Refferi. Nada más ni nada menos qué JACK DEMPSEY
Thats right lester
Damn Mike Tyson would destroy these "black and white" screen bums
Like hell. One nuclear right from Max Baer and Mike Tyson would be knocked into the next holiday season.
munchkie cocoa baer would have to go through new boxing regulations and would probably fight with 8 oz. gloves so he probably wouldn't be able to knock him out.
Max was so very "badly portrayed by Ron Howard" But what do you expect Ron, Ron never was or will be a good director, he Hollywood's boy, they were kind to him. I would have explored the human side of Max, why he didn't really always train properly for fights, he really did not belong in the ring, he loved people you can see that, he hated hurting boxers, that would have been a better way to go, the power and the conflict to use that inside him, that would be a story, but oh no, not from Ron.
I thought this guy was very bad movie lie on us.
My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90
6:00 Goddamn...
Max Baer vs Mike Tyson. Who wins?
Baer was physically gifted and a great power puncher. Tyson was also physically gifted, had similar power, and also had far superior foot/hand speed, body/head movement and punching technique. Imagine Baer fighting Dempsey, but even more brutal. Baer had a good chin though, so I can see this lasting longer than one might expect, but the end result stays the same.
@@keeganbluegrass I tend to agree. Thanks for the comment.
@@keeganbluegrass
my video shows exactly how this era fought and his era fought, does in that video does that version of Joe look like he actually or anybody from his time look like they would land anything on people Mike fought? he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs guys in 70s-90s, so how is this a good match?
@@simonmiller2361with what?
my video shows exactly how this era fought and his era fought, does in that video does that version of Joe look like he actually or anybody from his time look like they would land anything on people Mike fought? he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs guys in 70s-90s, so how is this a good match?
Unmatched right hand to this day!
Trolling try watching fighters in 70s-90s who stopped people way faster or koed in first way faster
Wasn't Jack Dempsey a promoter ofMax Bear? Talk about a conflict of interest...
bad move by Dempsey for allowing it to continue...the ref needs to recognize when a fighter has had enough, Jack is too old school
5:09 damn, surprised that he could muster up from that!
Was Max really Jewish & why was the star of David not on his trunks for this fight?
TheG55coffia Max's fater was jewish. he was for all intent and purposes a non practicing Jew.
Thanks for the info. I heard that Max's grandmother was Jewish and the Grandfather was Christian, but why did He ware the star of David then?
TheG55coffia I could be wrong, but I believe it was in protest of germany.
His paternal grandmother was Jewish, while his paternal grandfather was Lutheran and his mother's parents were Anglo-Irish Catholics, I believe. He and brother Buddy wore the Star in solidarity with their Jewish brethren during the Nazi era. Yet another thing you gotta love about these guys. With three gentile grandparents, they would not have been subject to the Nuremberg Laws, but that didn't matter to them. Those 'laws' themselves, and the lunatic bigotry they manifested, were the problem, and the Baer boys ever after wore the Star to say 'up yours, Nazi scum, and all you dirty Klansmen too.'
Anyone else reminded of Deontay Wilder?
Yes. Bingo.
Indeed, very similar stylewise. Both very athletically gifted and powerful, but lacked most fundamentals in defense and technique. Deontay Vs Baer would have been a war.
@@roberthockett270no deon way more advanced
@@keeganbluegrassno one made midcard fighting like these guys in 70s-90s so why would they now?,makes no sense at all deon is way more advanced would destroy these guys
two adds? dont be an #@$&#
I can’t believe that monster max was still aloud to box after killing this boxer
He wasn’t a monster. He never killed Pat Comiskey.
@@johnd.597Max didn't have anything to do with Schaaf's death, that's a myth.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef you're right.
Braddock is better than Baer a billion times
JACK LA MOTTA WAS MOST DANGEROUS
Max Baer was a good looking actor too. Too bad he is almost exclusively remembered as Jethro of the Beverly Hillbillies.
Max Baer's son, Max Jr, was Jethro in the Beverly Hillbillies.
That was Max Baer Jr., his son.
@Harry Ramos his son was the hillbilly l
@Harry Ramos his son was the hillbilly l
@Harry Ramos his son was the hillbilly l
They would lose easily this era
Yet louis wouldn't according to lunatics for years, yet he had the same obsolete flaws and tech as guys in this era, my video shows the average person in the 70s-90s was way more advanced than this whole Novice era