Keith Meeks By all contemporary accounts Max was a fun loving prankster& a kind man. "The Cinderella Man" movie was a rather cruel&positively inaccurate portrayal of Max Baer.
Max Baer was a very funny man. He loved to make people laugh. When asked what happened in the Joe Louis fight, he said, "I forgot to duck!" When he died he was staying in a hotel room, he was having a heart attack so he called the front desk for a doctor, the desk clerk said, "Do you want a house doctor?" Max replied, "No, I want a people doctor!"
Max also said about his fight with Louis after some fans questioned him not getting up after Joe put him down was " These people paid to see a fight not a killing " LOL
max baer was a very nice guy, he even became friends with primo carnera and james braddock after fighting them, and he always went to his rival`s dressing room after his fights to talk to them and wish them the best of luck
Sometimes you won't like a guy till you fight him I've made many good friends fighting them back in school days at least. Hey I might get my ass beat but they're not just going to beat my ass. I will get respect.
@@tommybrown9534 Yes, but there are enough antagonists in that film: the guy who fired Braddock at the beginning of the movie, sporty Lewis, etc. There are other movies of this type (like The pursuit of happiness, or Alive, for example) without a main antagonist and they are still good movies, so no need to ruin the reputation of a man.
@@Cerdo_asqueroso They only had to portray him as a very dangerous opponent, which he was, to have the drama they needed for the film. They didn't have to portray him as an a-hole. It was disgraceful. The only thing they got right was the sportsmanship that Baer showed at the end of the fight, which could have gone unnoticed if you weren't paying close attention.
They also made Braddock and his manager Joe Gould seem like saints but after they won the title they refused to fight Joe Louis for 2 years and they would have stalled for even longer if Louis didn't agree to their extortion demands which were 10% of Louis earnings for the rest of his life.
@@heyphilphil They had to make the point that he was a feared fighter. They didn't have to make him an a-hole. They basically made him into the character he played in "The Harder They Fall", rather than the real man. Disgraceful. And what was the deal with making the Star of David on his trunks a lot less prominent than it was in the real fight?
@@GeorgeFitness-yo8bl Yeah, it's a movie, a movie that claims to tell a true story about real people. Everyone expects the film makers to fudge a few facts to make it more entertaining and fit it into a reasonable length, but anyone should (if they aren't sh*theads) expect that they would portray the real people in a somewhat honest manner. I'm sure that anyone, Ron Howard included, would not want his or a family member's reputation damaged by lies that millions of people believe at face value. Howard did that to Baer for no good reason. It would not have hurt his movie at all if he had been more honest.
Oh for F sake it was 1935. Chalk up another comment from the endlessly offended crowd. You do know Joe Louis WAS black right? He wasn't intentionally insulting the man. Consider the context not just the content.
@@CJ-1776 Could' t agree more, mate. People weren't afraid to mention colour back then in just the same way you might mention any other physical attribute. Louis called himself the brown bomber, did he not.
How about no lol. You white dudes crack me up. Max fought mostly 180 pound guys and he fought mostly white guys. Baer was only good at knocking out little guys and white guys.
@@billyrock8305 😵 First of all congratulations to me for meeting such a person. Also, congratulations to you too. May Allah give you a long and healthy life.
@@TheClinchMagazine There is no such thing called Allah or any other god. FYI, Allah is the name of the ancient pagan moon-god which Muhammad then stole and put in his religion.
they really potrayed him wrong in Cinderella Man.. yes.. he did kill a couple guys by accident in fights.. but he was a totally sweet guy from all I've read about him.. and from his interviews he just seems like a cool dude..
I know a movie needs a villian and he was a good one, it made the under dog cinderella story more satisfying. That being said I am SO happy that everywhere I go I see people standing up for baer and actually know that he was a good person.
Max had horrible nightmares about killing Frankie Campbell. His wife and kids said that he would cry and weep for hours at night. It was also said that he had a small nervous breakdown from killing 2 people. Most people don't know that Max spent time in prison because of killing Frankie Campbell. It was a different time back then. And yes Ron Howard caught a ton of crap for portraying Max in this light. His son the also famous actor Max Baer jr. AKA Jethro Bodine was very angry about it knowing how his father suffered from killing 2 fighters. Another unknown fact was that Max Baer was fighting Jimmy Braddock with a broken hand
Max was a very easy going and fun loving man. His gracious description of Jimmy Braddock and Joe Louis reveals the deep depth of humility Max had. Max was "NOTHING" like the sadistic and brutal character portrayed in the Ron Howard Movie, Cinderella Man. Ron Howard should have researched his boxing historical material better before making his movie. All boxing history students were aware of the very likable personality in the "real" Max Baer, and the movie made Max a monster, something he was NOT!
Indeed...Ron did a great disservice to a wonderful man. Max sure didn't deserve that. Max was a really good guy and very fun loving...almost always laughing. I wonder if Ron knew Max's history and did it anyway or just had to make him into a villain to help the movie plot, etc...
I suspect that Ron Howard knew he was misrepresenting Baer's character but did it anyway for dramatic effect. Similarly, in Apollo 13, Howard depicted an angry argument between the 3 astronauts which never actually happened, just for dramatic effect,@@BrotherPatriot.
WTF!? This is not the Max Baer the movie made him out to be. I've seen the movie so many times and it WAS one of my all-time favorites. After seeing the real Max Baer, I can no longer say that it is still one of my favorites. The movie was nothing but a lie! Just makes you wonder how many millions of other people who've seen the movie will go on for the rest of their lives never knowing how the real Max was actually a good guy. It's really messed up.
@@foxfire9144 they re-edit a lot of the dates and times of certain events to glorify Max Baer a lot more than he really was during his career though. For example, the documentary portrays Baer's fight with Schmeling not happening until after Max Schmeling ko'd Joe Louis ; in order to give more sentimental value to Baer's victory over Schmeling, since Baer was racially Jewish.
@@berniesluder762 Baer's son played Jethro Bodine, nephew of Jed Clampett. I think Baer Jr. might have sued the producers of the film. If so, he would have been justified in doing so.
The best book about Max Baer is titled "Max Baer and Barney Ross: Jewish Heroes of Boxing." Read it and enjoy reliving some of the most exciting bouts of the 1930s.
@@dlaliberte5633 religion has nothing to do with being Jewish. Jews are descendants of Abraham, a racial/ethnic group. Hitler couldn't have cared less whether they went to synagogue or not.
It's a good drama. I don't really like to compare it to real life. It would ruin a ton of great movies if I thought about their inaccuracies. I understand why Baers family was upset and I certainly can't blame them for that. And if you're close to that situation it also makes sense to be upset. But if you're not I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice by picking movies apart because they weren't true to life.
@@BrokenGodEnt If you want to professionally benefit off real people you have an obligation to be accurate as you possibly can. If you want to make up your own characters theres this thing called FICTION. But original projects like Rocky don't pray on curious people wanting to learn about real events and are less likely to succeed so directors maim real stories instead.
Actually, that was a very repectful interview. I looked this up 'cause of loving the story cinderella man, but on this vid, thanks. Puts a lot more professionalism in the sports reporting, he seems like a good guy!
JohnLoCicero You're probably one of them so stop complaining. And you were not even born back then. If you were then you wouldn't be on RUclips typing trash.
I saw black spots appearing before my eyes, that was Joe Lewis beating your ass, he could see into the future. The guy liked to joke around, not like the prick they made him out to be in the movie, Jethro should have sued them when they made his pops into a monster on the movie.
It is sickening how Max Baer was portrayed in the Cinderella movie. Ron Howard should be a shamed of himself. Max Baer Jr. should sue him for this distortion -very sad.
Long before boxers like Emanuel Augustus or Naseem Hamed used to clown in the ring, well before Adrien "the Problem" Broner spawned more kids than he could support (even while racking up seven-figure fight purses), there was Max Baer, the original clown prince of boxing. Baer was movie star handsome, quick-witted, and actually had legitimate acting chops (I remember seeing him Humphrey Bogart's last vehicle, "The Harder they fall," and being impressed with him). Like many greats, Baer killed a man early in his career, and the specter of his felled opponent hung over the remainder of his days like a cloud. Depending on who you ask, Baer was also the first Jewish heavyweight champion of the world.
There was another?🤔As far as I know, Baer was the only Jewish heavyweight champion. But there were Jewish world champions in other divisions. Benny Leonard (Benjamin Leiner) comes to mind.
Wikipedia says it was learned weeks later that Baer fought Louis with a broken right hand that never healed from his fight with James J. Braddock. Max was virtually helpless without his big right hand in the Louis fight.
Look at what the real Max Baer said as opposed to the lies in the movie Cinderella man. There was no need to make Max out to be the bad guy. The story was great without the exaggerated bad guy.
I enjoyed the movie "Cinderella Man" about Jim Braddock but this was their one mistake. Baer was a class act and they portrayed him as a villain unnecessarily. Hope they do a biopic about him one day.
Yeah I watched Cinderella Man again yesterday, love that movie. But I am wondering Why Ron Howard (director) portrayed Max as being the meanest boxer of all. I also read that 2 boxers did die in after the fights with Max. Campbell died I guess about an hour after the fight with Max, and Max was crying uncontrollably it says on Baer's website put up by Max's family and Max Baer Jr. Also it says that Max took care of Campbell's family financially because he had a wife and kids. So sad though and kind of ticks me off that they made Max look to be a bad guy!! I myself was a boxer in the 70's and did it for 6 years, almost went to Golden Gloves. But I got a bad concussion right before the tournament and had to quit boxing. Was a skinny runt, a whopping 165 pounds, Middleweight.
I understand why people don't like how Cinderella Man portrayed him as a murderous vile being. That said, he was mean in the ring and a bit of a showboat. Some greats in the early to mid-20th century, they were gentlemen out of their sport and killers in the sport. I think of Dick Butkus in football. The movie just doesn't show his good nature side for the fact that it isn't about him...though they did have to have a villian.
Ironic. Calls braddock greatly underrated and lost because he underestimated him. Instead of taking him serious he fooled around for 15 round and paid the price. Shame
One of the kindest most sensitive champions, Max Baer deserved better than his portrayal in Cinderella man. They twisted him into a villain for literary reasons but why? There was no need for it. The talent, size, and strength advantage were all in Baers favor. His good lighthearted sense of humor juxtaposed against his brute leverage behind his punching in the ring already make for an interesting character and mountain for Braddock to climb.. There was no need to make Baer appear evil when in fact he was a kind person like Dempsey Lo😊uis and Marciano
0:46 what I believe he is talking about is a vitreous detachment, when a gel-like substance degenerates. This may be from getting punched in the eye so often lol
He was depicted to be a bad guy in Cinderella Man - but Baer actually was more heroic than James Braddock. I also respect Jim Braddock and find his comeback story truly inspirational - but in terms of overall impact during those times - Baer actually beat Max Schmeling at Yankee Stadium. Schmeling was Hitler's favorite fighter!!! Baer who is half Jewish was a symbol of victory over German fascism tthat time.
Baer was a favorite of Hitler because he represented Germany, but the admiration wasn't mutual. Baer wasn't a Nazi but he knew he'd face a firing squad if he didn't appear to go along with the program. Schmeling was a decent guy who was misprotrayed just like Baer was in the movie. He paid for Joe Louis's funeral.
I too think he is somewhere in the 8,9 to 15,16 range..I read somewhere that Baer fought Joe Louis with an injured right hand..he begged for a rematch but never got one..I think he makes a better showing with an uninjured hand..
@@berniesluder762 agreed, max destroyed schmelling and schmelling whooped louis. I'm sure in full health he would have done much better. He had nasty ko power and accuracy.
mr baer was a very nice guy....was not trying to kill anyone in the fights.....the fighter that died in the ring mr baer was haunted by the death in his sleep....mr baer was trying to make it up to the fighter's family......
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baer gets portrayed as a bad guy. he wasn't.
Keith Meeks By all contemporary accounts Max was a fun loving prankster& a kind man. "The Cinderella Man" movie was a rather cruel&positively inaccurate portrayal of Max Baer.
Very true . He was actually a funny guy and was very respectful to his opponents.
Su funny to punch Carnera from behind after the bell ring.
Keith, Exactly. The more of these videos that I watch of Max, the more and more I like him.
Who portrayed him as a bad guy?
Max Baer was a very funny man. He loved to make people laugh. When asked what happened in the Joe Louis fight, he said, "I forgot to duck!" When he died he was staying in a hotel room, he was having a heart attack so he called the front desk for a doctor, the desk clerk said, "Do you want a house doctor?" Max replied, "No, I want a people doctor!"
Max also said about his fight with Louis after some fans questioned him not getting up after Joe put him down was " These people paid to see a fight not a killing " LOL
@@leebowens2631 I think he said it was about how he wasn't going to die for a mere $25 ticket entry...or something to that degree. LoL
That's crazy you guys were there... Fake azz facts
Reagan stole the first line
He had ice cream every day.
max baer was a very nice guy, he even became friends with primo carnera and james braddock after fighting them, and he always went to his rival`s dressing room after his fights to talk to them and wish them the best of luck
I read that Max felt horrible about accidentally causing the death of a fighter. It shook him up so much it led to the ending of his career.
the movie "CINDERELLA MAN" portraied it very very different.
@@blendiferizi4477 movie vs accurate depiction .....see the difference haha
@@blendiferizi4477 What do you expect from Hollywood Bunch of degenerates
Sometimes you won't like a guy till you fight him I've made many good friends fighting them back in school days at least. Hey I might get my ass beat but they're not just going to beat my ass. I will get respect.
Damnn they made him out to be a jackass in the movie. he seems like such a nice guy tf
Yea that was pretty messed up.they did that just to make Braddock seem more heroic..and in Hollywood, every hero needs a villian counterpart
@@tommybrown9534
Yes, but there are enough antagonists in that film: the guy who fired Braddock at the beginning of the movie, sporty Lewis, etc.
There are other movies of this type (like The pursuit of happiness, or Alive, for example) without a main antagonist and they are still good movies, so no need to ruin the reputation of a man.
@@Cerdo_asqueroso I agree with u dude.100%
@@Cerdo_asqueroso They only had to portray him as a very dangerous opponent, which he was, to have the drama they needed for the film. They didn't have to portray him as an a-hole. It was disgraceful. The only thing they got right was the sportsmanship that Baer showed at the end of the fight, which could have gone unnoticed if you weren't paying close attention.
They also made Braddock and his manager Joe Gould seem like saints but after they won the title they refused to fight Joe Louis for 2 years and they would have stalled for even longer if Louis didn't agree to their extortion demands which were 10% of Louis earnings for the rest of his life.
Judging by how he describes an opponent he sounds like a heck of a nice guy. Hollywood should issue an apology.
they have to create an adversary for the movie. anyone who really knows boxing knows better and knows both were nice guys.
@@heyphilphil They had to make the point that he was a feared fighter. They didn't have to make him an a-hole. They basically made him into the character he played in "The Harder They Fall", rather than the real man. Disgraceful. And what was the deal with making the Star of David on his trunks a lot less prominent than it was in the real fight?
@@patrickmorgan4006 what people don't realize is that Baer had Irish blood from his mom's side.
Its a movie give it a break!
@@GeorgeFitness-yo8bl Yeah, it's a movie, a movie that claims to tell a true story about real people. Everyone expects the film makers to fudge a few facts to make it more entertaining and fit it into a reasonable length, but anyone should (if they aren't sh*theads) expect that they would portray the real people in a somewhat honest manner. I'm sure that anyone, Ron Howard included, would not want his or a family member's reputation damaged by lies that millions of people believe at face value. Howard did that to Baer for no good reason. It would not have hurt his movie at all if he had been more honest.
Max Baer deserves his own biopic
I like how classy and well spoken the fighters were back in the days comparing to todays shit talking disrespectfull boxer's
Yeah calling someone a black spot is not racist right
@@YungDeuceOhhh he clearly said that it was his manager who said that
Oh for F sake it was 1935. Chalk up another comment from the endlessly offended crowd. You do know Joe Louis WAS black right? He wasn't intentionally insulting the man. Consider the context not just the content.
It’s called publicity
@@CJ-1776 Could' t agree more, mate. People weren't afraid to mention colour back then in just the same way you might mention any other physical attribute.
Louis called himself the brown bomber, did he not.
Max died of a heart attack in 1959 at the age of 50. One of the HARDEST punchers in heavyweight history!!!
Max Jr found out about his dad's death while he was in the military, he heard it on the radio, he died young.
@@powerboatguy2308Jethro from Beverly hillbillies
How about no lol. You white dudes crack me up. Max fought mostly 180 pound guys and he fought mostly white guys. Baer was only good at knocking out little guys and white guys.
Max was a swell good guy! Met him once when I was a kid. A Friendly, kind and funny giant. Gave me a nickel too!
How old are you now ?
@@TheClinchMagazine 102.
@@billyrock8305 😵 First of all congratulations to me for meeting such a person. Also, congratulations to you too. May Allah give you a long and healthy life.
@@TheClinchMagazine dadgumit who the hell is Al? He didn’t give me a long life, I did! Beer and hot women. The cat’s meow.
@@TheClinchMagazine There is no such thing called Allah or any other god. FYI, Allah is the name of the ancient pagan moon-god which Muhammad then stole and put in his religion.
a real man not like today.
Max a true example of gentleman
they really potrayed him wrong in Cinderella Man.. yes.. he did kill a couple guys by accident in fights.. but he was a totally sweet guy from all I've read about him.. and from his interviews he just seems like a cool dude..
His words are those of a fair - play sportsman , who shows respect for his opponent. Thank you for sharing. 😊
I know a movie needs a villian and he was a good one, it made the under dog cinderella story more satisfying. That being said I am SO happy that everywhere I go I see people standing up for baer and actually know that he was a good person.
Agreed...!
It's up to We the People to call bullshit...bullshit.
Especially if it comes from the MSM or the entertainment industry.
Max had horrible nightmares about killing Frankie Campbell. His wife and kids said that he would cry and weep for hours at night. It was also said that he had a small nervous breakdown from killing 2 people. Most people don't know that Max spent time in prison because of killing Frankie Campbell. It was a different time back then. And yes Ron Howard caught a ton of crap for portraying Max in this light. His son the also famous actor Max Baer jr. AKA Jethro Bodine was very angry about it knowing how his father suffered from killing 2 fighters. Another unknown fact was that Max Baer was fighting Jimmy Braddock with a broken hand
Max was a very easy going and fun loving man. His gracious description of Jimmy Braddock and Joe Louis reveals the deep depth of humility Max had. Max was "NOTHING" like the sadistic and brutal character portrayed in the Ron Howard Movie, Cinderella Man. Ron Howard should have researched his boxing historical material better before making his movie. All boxing history students were aware of the very likable personality in the "real" Max Baer, and the movie made Max a monster, something he was NOT!
Absolutely agree. The portrayal of him in the movie was a disgrace. 😢
Indeed...Ron did a great disservice to a wonderful man.
Max sure didn't deserve that.
Max was a really good guy and very fun loving...almost always laughing.
I wonder if Ron knew Max's history and did it anyway or just had to make him into a villain to help the movie plot, etc...
I suspect that Ron Howard knew he was misrepresenting Baer's character but did it anyway for dramatic effect. Similarly, in Apollo 13, Howard depicted an angry argument between the 3 astronauts which never actually happened, just for dramatic effect,@@BrotherPatriot.
@@justintime1343 Ron Howard directs the movies. He doesn't write the screen play.
WTF!? This is not the Max Baer the movie made him out to be. I've seen the movie so many times and it WAS one of my all-time favorites. After seeing the real Max Baer, I can no longer say that it is still one of my favorites. The movie was nothing but a lie! Just makes you wonder how many millions of other people who've seen the movie will go on for the rest of their lives never knowing how the real Max was actually a good guy. It's really messed up.
@@foxfire9144 they re-edit a lot of the dates and times of certain events to glorify Max Baer a lot more than he really was during his career though. For example, the documentary portrays Baer's fight with Schmeling not happening until after Max Schmeling ko'd Joe Louis ; in order to give more sentimental value to Baer's victory over Schmeling, since Baer was racially Jewish.
Right..making Maxxy look like a jerk was good for cinema..Baer's son,who played Jethro Clampett on the Beverly Hillbillies, was PISSED!!!
@@berniesluder762actually he was Jethro
@@berniesluder762 Baer's son played Jethro Bodine, nephew of Jed Clampett. I think Baer Jr. might have sued the producers of the film. If so, he would have been justified in doing so.
Hollywood is like that. They don't care who is hurt as long as they can make money.
That was awesome that Baer spoke of the Brown Bomber.
:D
It's a crime how he was portrayed in the "Cinderella Man" Movie.
The best book about Max Baer is titled "Max Baer and Barney Ross: Jewish Heroes of Boxing." Read it and enjoy reliving some of the most exciting bouts of the 1930s.
hey. wtf does his religion have to do with his character? James Braddock.. Irish Roman Catholic embarrassed a Jew. By Dr Phil
@@jackwoods6249 His brother Augie was adopted, not Max.
@@dlaliberte5633 religion has nothing to do with being Jewish. Jews are descendants of Abraham, a racial/ethnic group. Hitler couldn't have cared less whether they went to synagogue or not.
Very good Max, my compliment to you, where ever you are now. RIP
People in that era sure dressed very sharply.
Max Baer was great. He was a cutup and loved by everybody. I love James Braddock too but Cinderella Man was complete BS.
It's a good drama. I don't really like to compare it to real life. It would ruin a ton of great movies if I thought about their inaccuracies.
I understand why Baers family was upset and I certainly can't blame them for that. And if you're close to that situation it also makes sense to be upset. But if you're not I think you'd be doing yourself a disservice by picking movies apart because they weren't true to life.
Yeah the movie portrays Baer as a real jerk but you can clearly see he wasn't like that at all in reality
@@BrokenGodEnt Then you call it fiction and create ficticious characters. You don't use real names!
@@BrokenGodEnt If you want to professionally benefit off real people you have an obligation to be accurate as you possibly can. If you want to make up your own characters theres this thing called FICTION. But original projects like Rocky don't pray on curious people wanting to learn about real events and are less likely to succeed so directors maim real stories instead.
This was when people in sports respected each other before competition.
Right...before guys like Ali made it a thing to do the opposite.
When Frankie Campbell died after his fight w/ Baer , Baer was very sad and was about to quit boxing all together.
Cinderella Man was absolutely slander of Max Baer. Ron Howard should be ashamed of himself.
Complete gentleman
Actually, that was a very repectful interview. I looked this up 'cause of loving the story cinderella man, but on this vid, thanks. Puts a lot more professionalism in the sports reporting, he seems like a good guy!
I love this man he was very strong I think he can compete also in modern boxing with any problem,
It should be fucking illegal to paint a real guy as a villian, that's not even a bad guy....
The part Max played in the movie The Harder They Fall is where the bad guy idea came from, pure fiction
This is Max Baer at 26. When men were men. Take a look at the average 26-year old nowadays. Bunch of fairies with sandals
Lol I'll bet you're like 50
JohnLoCicero You're probably one of them so stop complaining. And you were not even born back then. If you were then you wouldn't be on RUclips typing trash.
Hamza Khaliq what kind of flip flops you wearing?
Scott Kuhn Last time I wore flip flops, I was 10 or 11 years old.
God fucking damn that’s intimidating, I’m 24 and the guy looks like he’s fuckin 40
Max was a charming bloke!
I saw black spots appearing before my eyes, that was Joe Lewis beating your ass, he could see into the future. The guy liked to joke around, not like the prick they made him out to be in the movie, Jethro should have sued them when they made his pops into a monster on the movie.
Can't help but agree.
To slander someone of such good standing...should have brought them to court over it.
You can't sue for slander on behalf of a dead man. That's probably why they portrayed Baer like that. They knew they could get away with it.
The trash talking today (which Ali started in the 60s) has gotten so out of hand that it's childish.
It is sickening how Max Baer was portrayed in the Cinderella movie. Ron Howard should be a shamed of himself. Max Baer Jr. should sue him for this distortion -very sad.
Ron Howard directed the movie. He didn't write the screen play.
Totally different outlook back then. Publicly, fighters would speak well of their opponents. Today, it's mostly trash talk.
Men back then were real men. They were incredible tough and they had HONOR!!! Men today talk smack, have to cheat and take steroids to compete.
So True
Total contrast with the movie
Not exactly the ogre he was portrayed in "Cinderella Man." Sad that films take such liberties.
I’m dumbfounded!!! I thought this dude was a MONSTER!!! Damn!!! 🤬😡😔😞🇳🇬🇺🇸
Long before boxers like Emanuel Augustus or Naseem Hamed used to clown in the ring, well before Adrien "the Problem" Broner spawned more kids than he could support (even while racking up seven-figure fight purses), there was Max Baer, the original clown prince of boxing. Baer was movie star handsome, quick-witted, and actually had legitimate acting chops (I remember seeing him Humphrey Bogart's last vehicle, "The Harder they fall," and being impressed with him). Like many greats, Baer killed a man early in his career, and the specter of his felled opponent hung over the remainder of his days like a cloud. Depending on who you ask, Baer was also the first Jewish heavyweight champion of the world.
There was another?🤔As far as I know, Baer was the only Jewish heavyweight champion. But there were Jewish world champions in other divisions. Benny Leonard (Benjamin Leiner) comes to mind.
No smack-talk from Baer. Seems like a hard guy not to like.
I need to read more about Baer. Movies need the bad guy and maybe he was portrayed wrong for that reason.
Wikipedia says it was learned weeks later that Baer fought Louis with a broken right hand that never healed from his fight with James J. Braddock. Max was virtually helpless without his big right hand in the Louis fight.
Max Baer had a lot of class. He was not only a bad ass but he was a gentleman who talked highly of his opponent.
Much nice guy than he was depicted in the movie "Cinderella Man", although I still like the movie
Max Baer paid for boxers medical expenses that couldn't afford it, class act.
He's a G
Look at what the real Max Baer said as opposed to the lies in the movie Cinderella man. There was no need to make Max out to be the bad guy. The story was great without the exaggerated bad guy.
Respect used to be something humans did.
Max Baer was that guy 💪🏽💪🏽
I may be mistaken but didn't Max's son play Jethro in The Beverley Hillbillies?
Yes. Max Baer Jr.
Max Baer was actually a nice guy. I hated how he was portrayed in Cinderella Man.
Don't let that nice guy demeanor fool you, max whoop yo @ss
They portrayed Max Bear as a baby guy in the, "Cinderella Man Movie".
Jethro don’t look anything like His Father(Whom you are seeing in this video).
I never knew that Jethro had A Father who was A Champion Fighter.
Much classier than the movie version.
Joe Loius said that they dont come no tougher'n Baer!
Opie should have made a followup movie portraying the real Max Baer. What a shame. The more I learn about Max Baer the more upset I get.
Poland love Braddock🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇶🇦
I enjoyed the movie "Cinderella Man" about Jim Braddock but this was their one mistake. Baer was a class act and they portrayed him as a villain unnecessarily. Hope they do a biopic about him one day.
Great movie!!!!
It really was...but to bad they slandered Max, which is pretty low.
Yeah I watched Cinderella Man again yesterday, love that movie. But I am wondering Why Ron Howard (director) portrayed Max as being the meanest boxer of all. I also read that 2 boxers did die in after the fights with Max. Campbell died I guess about an hour after the fight with Max, and Max was crying uncontrollably it says on Baer's website put up by Max's family and Max Baer Jr. Also it says that Max took care of Campbell's family financially because he had a wife and kids. So sad though and kind of ticks me off that they made Max look to be a bad guy!! I myself was a boxer in the 70's and did it for 6 years, almost went to Golden Gloves. But I got a bad concussion right before the tournament and had to quit boxing. Was a skinny runt, a whopping 165 pounds, Middleweight.
Seems like a class act to me 👍🏻
Any boxing aficionado of the early years knows Max was well known as a jokester, but a kind man all around. They did him dirty in Cinderella Man.
It's only Joe Louis lol. Little did he know that a year after this he will fight Louis in the ring, getting ko in round 4.
What a classy guy.....the Cinderella Man movie really misportrayed him.
Every movie needs a villain
Pretty sure Joe Louis kayoed Max once and Buddy twice.
I understand why people don't like how Cinderella Man portrayed him as a murderous vile being. That said, he was mean in the ring and a bit of a showboat. Some greats in the early to mid-20th century, they were gentlemen out of their sport and killers in the sport. I think of Dick Butkus in football.
The movie just doesn't show his good nature side for the fact that it isn't about him...though they did have to have a villian.
Wow Cinderella man really painted this guy as an asshole... Wow I'm just shocked.. what a seemingly nice man.. seems very warm and kind.
Max Baer Jr took on his dad's charm.."Jethro" is still alive and is proud of his dad.
Ironic. Calls braddock greatly underrated and lost because he underestimated him. Instead of taking him serious he fooled around for 15 round and paid the price. Shame
Such a shame how Ron Howard slandered his good name while making his movie Cinderella man
In real life max says braddock is great underrated fighter but in the movie make max says braddock is chump
Who else is here because if High School US History Class?
One of the kindest most sensitive champions, Max Baer deserved better than his portrayal in Cinderella man. They twisted him into a villain for literary reasons but why?
There was no need for it. The talent, size, and strength advantage were all in Baers favor. His good lighthearted sense of humor juxtaposed against his brute leverage behind his punching in the ring already make for an interesting character and mountain for Braddock to climb.. There was no need to make Baer appear evil when in fact he was a kind person like Dempsey Lo😊uis and Marciano
Max Baer = class act.
0:46 what I believe he is talking about is a vitreous detachment, when a gel-like substance degenerates. This may be from getting punched in the eye so often lol
You are right. He is talking about vitreous detachment. As someone one that suffers from them I knew what he meant.
Baer is a legend. In truth he was better than Braddock but he didn’t take his career as seriously as he could
He was depicted to be a bad guy in Cinderella Man - but Baer actually was more heroic than James Braddock. I also respect Jim Braddock and find his comeback story truly inspirational - but in terms of overall impact during those times - Baer actually beat Max Schmeling at Yankee Stadium. Schmeling was Hitler's favorite fighter!!! Baer who is half Jewish was a symbol of victory over German fascism tthat time.
Baer was a favorite of Hitler because he represented Germany, but the admiration wasn't mutual. Baer wasn't a Nazi but he knew he'd face a firing squad if he didn't appear to go along with the program. Schmeling was a decent guy who was misprotrayed just like Baer was in the movie. He paid for Joe Louis's funeral.
why did they portray max as an asshole when he was actually a nice guy who respected his oppenents.
Ask ron Howard.
Money is all that matters in Hollywood.
Did he call Joe Lewis a black spot!!
anyone else notice that he was looking at cue cards off camera?
Baer was by all accounts a good guy
Some guys see black some see white, when they get clocked. Max saw something when Joe Louis clocked him.
The Baer family name is still well respected in Sacramento, including Buddy.
Louis gave Max A terrible beating those 3 left hooks that DESTROYED Max reminds me of the 3 hooks that Tyson used to annialate Pinklon Thomas
Just a class act.
Baer was a class act, I hated how he was portrayed in the movie Cinderella Man.
Max looks and sounds like such a nice guy! Just happened to be a really damn good fighter with a monstrous right hand.
watching this trying to figure out if he was "the bad guy" as seen in cinderella man, he doesn't seems to be.
Cinderella man did that man no justice. I see a very humble competitor. They painted him as a cocky asshole.
I think Max was one of the greatest heavyweights ever. Too bad his trainer couldn't control his bravado. One tough cookie.
I too think he is somewhere in the 8,9 to 15,16 range..I read somewhere that Baer fought Joe Louis with an injured right hand..he begged for a rematch but never got one..I think he makes a better showing with an uninjured hand..
@@berniesluder762 agreed, max destroyed schmelling and schmelling whooped louis. I'm sure in full health he would have done much better. He had nasty ko power and accuracy.
Great gentleman
mr baer was a very nice guy....was not trying to kill anyone in the fights.....the fighter that died in the ring mr baer was haunted by the death in his sleep....mr baer was trying to make it up to the fighter's family......
in cinderella man they put him villain because they want to earn money by this stunt
Good dude
Didn't like Max's portrayal I'm Cinderella man. They made him look like a bully and physco...in reality he was very nice.
Max would have been proud of his son playing Jethro on the Beverly Hillbillies.