Democratic Russia [1] Soviet Union Hearts of Iron IV HOI4
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they *aren't* out to get you.
It's not paranoia if they are really plotting against you
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face.
+Alexander Weird Or nukes about OH MY GOOOO-
Just because they're really out to get you doesn't mean you aren't crazy.
@@elrichjr301 most of them weren't though
Last time I was this early, Trotsky was the heir
Trotsky was never the heir. He was someone Lenin thought was competent enough to rule but he never saw him as an heir. Lenin wanted a council to succeed him, not any one person. Besides the Russians would have never accepted Trotsky as a leader because he was Jewish and antisemitism was just as wide spread in revolutionary Russia as in Nazi Germany.
Antisemitism was widespread within the upper class in the Russian Empire, who were frightened by a perspective of cities being overcrowded by the Jews. When the revolution took over, a new concept was introduced - friendship of peoples, which was quite wise, considering the size and population diversity of the former empire.
ummm u mean they wouldnt accept jewish trozkij as successor to jewish lenin? mehhh doubt it .... btw the only reason lenin thought trotzkij to be a better successor then stalin was because he wasnt as quick to rage like the georgian and btw if nationalism would have been a decisive factor the georgian would have had similiar problems as the jewish option
The whole accepting the Jews in society is kind of odd considering the Soviets very anti-religion stance, especially during Stalin's reign.
Brandon Lyon
It's different to belong to the Judeist community and to be Jew. I see no "odd" here
Its actually a miracle that someone has made a democratic lets play. Its so funny the faces on your thumbnail
Yeah, seems like everyone is either "Germany wins the war" or "Fascist/Communist ____". It's refreshing.
If you change from Communist to anything really you lose the 'Trostsky plot' modifier (I played a Fascist Russia) however you do lose the ability to go down the Great Purge route and eventually the research slot, maybe a good idea to get it done however you will lose a lot of advisers and generals. Probably a good idea to get the Democratic reformer before doing the Purge
oh we are not skipping stalin's insanity tree. it's too good to pass up. and it will lead to public demand to depose the crazy man
Can you actually play as Russia? I think I read that you can extract Russia from the Soviet Union and have it exist as an independent country, but can you play as it? How do you work that out?
+IgnatzKolisch Independent from who? =)
Cyber Vantyz
From the Soviet Union. Russia was a state within the Soviet Union. You can't play as Russia starting in this game, just as you can't play as Texas, or England, and so on.
Russia is the democratic version of the Soviet Union, just like how the fascist version is called the Russian Empire.
I usually go with the Grand Battleplan Doctrine. As long as you're willing to sit on your ass its super powerful. Let the enemy just bounce of you, wasting their manpower and equipment against your superior entrenchment, gaining experience for you rdivisions and generals while you wait for the all division to be fully prepaired which gives them an 80% combat bonus once you get on only the second step of the tree. Once they're all ready just charge in, the enemy is already weakened by trying to attack you and your bonus' means you can wreck a superior force. I always make sure to have air superiority also. Once your advance starts to slow just rinse and repeat. You move slowly but I'm able to fight wars taking only 20% as much causalties as the enemy.
NOOO! NOT PSEUDO CYRILLIC! I CANT TAKE IT
Shen, your ability to pronounce russian names and sounds in russian way is very admirable. If u r into it, i want to notice, that Ivan is pronoced a lot different. In russian it sounds like Ivanka Trump but withoutk ka.
btw i v noticed in one of your streams (Turkey against USSR) you saying Moskva, Moskve. most of russian nouns can have up to 6 endings. (not only 2). And this shit is so complicated for non-russian speaker, so that i can't explain it. It's even more complicated than english articles for russian speakers :)
whan u say, i conqured moscow, it's MoskvU. Whan u say, i live in Moscow, it's MoskvE. Whan u say i go out of Moscow, it's Moskvi, whan you say i m proud of Moscow, it's Moskvoi.
I mentionit, because, whan u said "I conqured Moskve" i wished u said just MoskvA without being too cool ))) you r cool already. no need to be too cool :)
As a native speaker of Russian, you trying to pronounce the names of the generals was more than enjoyable. Keep up the great work, a long time fan!
Trotsky's claim to be Lenin's "successor" was rejected because, A) Marxism isn't supposed to have that kind of succession, B) Trotsky's line of Permanent Revolution was wildly unpopular in the Party (as evidenced by the referendum on the subject, which saw Trotsky defeated by something like 80%), and C) there was an is serious doubt of the validity of Lenin's "testament."
As for Trotskyite conspiracies, Trotsky's letters to his son, Leon Sedov (preserved in both the Harvard Trotsky Archive and the archive of the Hoover Institute), establish that he was in secret communication with various figures in the USSR, and that he expected an uprising which he could ride into power. How accurate that expectation was is difficult to say.
It is indeed debatable that Lenin intended Trotsky to be his successor, but it was definitely confirmed that he hated Stalin and feared for him ever getting to involved in Soviet Politics. Funny and ironic thing about Marx though, he was reported to have been a bit racist against Russians.
+Brandon Lyon Trotsky was afraid of Stalin getting powerful because he saw how dangerous he could be.
Pual Hollande Trotsky was a self-serving opportunist
I wasn't just referring to just Trotsky, Lenin.has said to have his own fear for Stalin. His grand Secretary job was never meant for much importance, but Stalin made it by allowing him to pick yes men for the governing council in charge of picking leaders, so when Lenin died the the rest of the Soviet government basically let him be in charge.
Play as Latvia next!
Add some spicy democracy and some great Goddamn research m8
I love new Shenryyr2 videos more than Shen loves coffee.
The thumbnail says something like "Mjutseja jats(ssi)d". Good ruski knowledge Shen!
I expect that you will protect Russian-speaking minorities around the world quite aggressively.
Yes yes, he is going to protect the Russian-speaking minority in Sudetenland from Germany
Protect in russian means kill and rob
WIll is the thumbnail saying "miotheya yatsssid shchdits chiuts"
Well, well. This shall be interesting.
wow i am here for first time and it is great to see youtuber who actually know history and time period. He should have more subscriptions. I think it is really idiotic when people make money from playing history games yet they dont know even basic facts (Arumba and others.....)
SMERSH
Actually it means death for spy
СМЕРть ШПионам.
Actually, in Russian this abbreviation is... well... stupid.
And name of that program itself is too simple as compared to modern Russian.
Today it would have been called something like "программа противодействия деятельности иностранных агентов влияния и шпионажа" (countermeasure to foreign agents of influence and espionage program)
the fleet and subs in Leningrad translate to "Baltic Fleet/Baltic Submarine Fleet" The Sevastopol fleet was the "Black Sea Fleet"
and the near Japan ones were "Pacific Ocean Fleet"
Good night left side
Shenryyr2
In russian, the thumbnaul says " mutneya yacssid" XD
I'm saddened that the police theater was not called LONESTAR! FREEZE1
Nice video as always Shen
Shen, can you and Arumba please do a multiplayer series, I would love a reply even if it a no, love the creativity with campaign selection too.
I love how you know the historical background behind all of this, and you also know how to destroy the world as anyone you fucking please because you micromanage the hell out of every single unit :D
finally your the first person who decided not to do historical ai
Shen, I would suggest going for Stalin Constitution first as it would allow you to change your economy into War Economy, which would give you lots more factories than 4 factories from FYP. Only Fascists and Communists can do that right now and it's a waste not to abuse it, I think. Afterwards you can take FYP or go all the way for new research slot through Stalin Constitution path.
You've been in charge of the Soviet Union 20 minutes and you've already abolished the NKVD. Comrade Beria would be ashamed of you!
Instead of renaming armies and such just create a theatre for each army to be put in, so instead of renaming a army "Polish Front" put that army in it's own theatre which you then rename "Polish Front" (the theatre), this makes it alot easier for organisation. Also don't put random units in each army, mountaineers shouldn't fight on plains but in the hills and tank should be the ones fighting in plains. Put units in that army according on what terrain you are going to invade, so for Poland put Infantry and tanks, there are almost no mountains there which make the mountaineer not any better than normal infantry and the mountaineers benifit more on the Turkey front where there are plenty of mountains!
you missed out on the opportunity to name your troops stationed in Finland "Finnish Line"
I tend to think the best single player start for USSR is to immediately get Stalinist Constitution, and use the political points to switch to a War Economy. You're not only getting rid of the construction penalty, you're also getting 12 civilian factories to build with, because you make fewer toasters. Finishing the five year plan gives four civilian factories, but the civilian economy promptly eats some of them to make more toasters. Certainly the second thing to do is the five year plan and the free military factories.
The other possibility (and what I'd seriously consider in MP) is to just jump straight into the Purge, but unless Japan goes super war mongering, you've got plenty of time to find the traitors to the revolution! A Historical AI will give you plenty of time to get Constitution, Factories, and finish the Purge (and start to work on the -40%) before the shooting starts in Europe. At least once, I even finished the Purge, and Stalin retired to his cabin in the woods days later, which meant I didn't have to live with the continued spectre of Trotsky.
SMERSH is phonetic pronunciation of capitalization of 'death to spies' in Russian.
it's a good idea to use google translate for pronunciations fo these words. smersh has a more rolled r and a harder ie sound. Using russian to russian lets you listen to it and it's pretty good.
Great a new Hearts of Iron Lets play :D
So, the man takes one look at the largest army in the world and the first order of business is "train more men"... I like the way you thing, sir!
i lost my shit when he said "we haave... TOASTER economy"
Zhukov was a beast, Rommel's level of badasness but Soviet
Shen, can you do a fascist Netherlands series soon?
Josef Stalin: So, i decided to rename Baltiyskiy Flot into Euro Subs.
Stalin's environment: WTF, comrade Stalin?! What are you doing?!!
This is going to be great
Deleting templates and using the fallback line tool confuses and frightens me.
SMERSH is a portmanteau of Smert Shpionam.
I am also blown away by the person disliking the music lol It's great in my opinion.
In interest of historical accuracy, Soviet and Russian Army Groups were named "Fronts" and there could be more than one to a region (i.e. First Byelorussian Front, Second Byelorussian Front, etc.)
Why the "y" in "Byelorussian". I am pretty sure that is wrong.
The "е" in "белорусский" isn't stressed, so no "y"or"j" or so needed. And if you do not use the Kyrillic-Alphabet, I wouldn't use the "o", just use an "a", as it is also not stressed in the russian language and thus isn't pronounced as o, but kinda as "a".
In the end it should look kinda like: "Belarussian" or "Belarusski", but probably not "Byelorussian"
That was how they spelled it in the Soviet Union (at least in all the translations I have seen).
+Christoph Hößelbarth Until 1991, the current Belarus was known as "Byelorussia" or "Belorussia". "Belarussia" was also used, so you're both right.
I can read Russian and when I saw the thumbnail I just went, "Welp, that's not that the first I saw a 'D' in Russia".
"black fleet"
"black subs"
i thought communism was about equality
SMERSH was an actual Soviet counter-intelligence organisation! Fleming thought it was a great name, so he reused it and others agreed.
Wrong letters on prewiev heart my eyes.
THANK YOU!
Can't wait for custom nations
Is this intended or something because text on miniature/icon (idk. how its named) seems like is misspelled ? (It says sth like mytneya, yacssid)
dont read it like its russian read it just how it looks and it says "Mother Russia wants you"
But when you know russian alphabet it just feels bad... Atleast now I know that was intended.
i know it took me like 8 minutes to get it but it propobly wont be read by alot of people that know the russian alphabet or the language.
Yeah, us westerners usually just throw random Cyrillic letters that look similar into English words to make it "look more Russian"
Sorry about that
Faux-cyrillic. Basically took cyrillic letters that look like latin letters to spell out "Mother Russia Wants You"
SMERSH is from SMERtj SHpionam, menaing Death to Spies. So you can call it DESP if you like.
The funny thing is Russia is not that big it can actually fit into Africa.
I have a big question. IF USSR became democratic in 1918, would it be better than USA before WW2?
Once I was a lurker, but I evolved into a subscriber
Uncle Shenryyr wants you !
why did you cancel submarine that almost finished
He didn’t even unpause the game.
The naval concepts are called choke points
thumbnail is hallarious :) my first reaction was"what the fuck is written" ))
Мне,как русскому человеку,интересно, что же хотел написать автор на картинке с превью?
But where is the peoples front of judea!?
smersh was in the bond books
"We have two purple guys"
Shen isn't the hoi4 music the same as the hoi3 music?
Why? It's a different game
Some new songs, but many are the same songs, albeit composed and played slightly different compared to HOI3
Can I just say that those random Cyrillic letters you used for the title make no sense. The way it's written, it would be pronounced Meeootneya Yatsid. Also you mixed Latin letters with Cyrillic letters which is... special lol. Not trying to be rude or anything, just thought it was kind of funny XD
11:08 it's called a Blockade
isn't blofeld's spectre a rip off of smersh?
The thumbnail reads Myutnez Yatzssid Schchdihts Chyu, when transliterated in cyrrilic.
Whether you can write on a cover in Russian? That now there, rupture of a brain.
The Soviet Union is in Russian written: "Советский Союз"
HULK SMERSH
How do you get Trotsky in power instead of Stalin in this game?
Aventedor 2013 dont do the great purge and wait for the civil war
I just tried to do this but then both France and Spain became communist so I switch Alexander for the communist but after that I messed everything up
is this game worth it?
what is your choice, anti fasist or anti capitalis national focus?
Does anyone know if in this game when you play as spain you can side with the good guys when the civil war starts? Or are you fascist whatever you do?
You can side with the good guys.
Nice! Thank you very much. I guess i'll be buying the game after all. There are a lot of mistakes in the history of this country that need to be fixed xD
+Borja Toledo be aware that remaining as republican Spain. Means That when German declares war on Russia Italy tends to declare on you, conquer you with Germany and your game is over. So game after the civil war tends to be boring and then end. Unless you totally fix Spain and win the war and then go democratic which will means receiving aid from America and also giving America and uk a foothold in Europe which means eww2 ends pretty quick if you survive and get pass the pirineos.
+Jaime Cernuda damn, rewriting history was never easy I guess. I'll go for some easy campaigns to learn the game and then try that
"We're just gonna do whatever the hell we want with the Soviets..."
Funny, right? Eh? Eh?
God damn it!
2 me if u read up about it... Stalin and Saddam have a lot in common. They were both the muscle for their groups and both took power....before they hit it big... both of them did the work, the other people in their party's considered to violent and dirty...
If i remenber correctly, Stalin if sended his wife and family or his wife and family to the gulag or something like that shortly after WW2
Stalin's second and last wife died in 1932
His son Yakov died in a German concentration camp, his son Vasily was a distinguished air force officer and lived until 1967, and his daughter defected, also in '67, and moved to the US
What is this Myutneya Yadssid shchdits chmo?
Murky poison seat waits for a schmuck
Shouldn't the Soviets technically have no civilian factories whatsoever, considering communism and the huge no no to free enterprise.
"civilian factories" simply refers to non-military factories
communism just means the government owns said factories, instead of corporations
SMERSH on russian Cмерч is Tornado )
During stalins 'regime' the soviet union was very democratic
Epic!
(coming from someone who has never watched or played Hearts of Iron before)
"WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??!?!?!?"
Same, I only have experience with CK2 and that is nothing compared to this
Craig Leone I don't understand CK2 too much either :p
My experience all comes from Vic2 and EU4
I think between HOI4, Vic2, EUIV, and CKII Vic2 is the hardest lol. I never could quite figure it out. Easiest to hardest for me has been CKII -> HOI4 -> EUIV -> Vic2.
Clnr0n05 really?
lmao
your two easiest to learn ones are my two hardest to learn :p
Kabsef
I forgot to add Stellaris, which is imo the easiest one of all of them. CKII is only really difficult due to the way politics is handled, once you get a grasp it isn't too hard (it also helps that I play as the vikings most of the time lol). HOI4 is complex, but it's really only the actual battles that can be difficult (and even then not always, though I hate how the AI operates). EUIV and HOI4 are close in difficulty imo, but I'm slightly better at HOI4. They require a different mindset than the other two for sure though.
Yay!
"Democratic Russia" that doesn't exist. EVER.
Its true(
Zhukov is a good general
Stalin was as crazy as Roosevelt. It means no, he was not crazy =)
***** I wish Stalin actually had that "level of absolute control" that you do imagine to yourself =)
That fairy tales that all of you keep repeating over and over again are funny =) Freedom of thought is a real thing in murica =) Or whereever the fuck you're from )
***** If you are not from Russia, not Russian and not history lover - then you better leave your fantasies to yourself.
***** Idiot is you, as you "study" history from propaganda without critical thinking involved.
Explain to me - how exactly one "crazy" man can have "total control" over at least government and army of largest country in the world with 170 million population and thousands of cities, factories, power plants etc? What's the purpose of multi-level government structure then? And parliament?
You are stupid little kid living in fairy world with rainbows.
Turn on your brain if you have such a thing.
Being evil is not the same as being crazy. Are autocrats like Kim Jong Un, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao evil or crazy?
vycka1234 Who told you that they were "autocrats"? What it does even mean? One man never can be in power - it is always group of powerful men. No one can be "leader" alone.
Hitler was not alone. Mao was certainly not alone. So as Stalin.
I wonder how you people are actually stupid out there
Your text says myutheya yatsshid.
I know what kind of soviet volunteers is. :)
So...this is what happens if Russia embrace Democracy when the White Army won politics before WW2
All I want for Christmas is t-34s yeah yeah yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ooooooo oo oooooooooo yea
5:58 anyone else hear that?
We should of voted on it
You don't have to go that ahistorical, it would make sence as Russia to focus more on Mass assault. But it's your game do whatever you want.
You can't start as Russia in this game, it wasn't an independent country during that time, and so isn't a starting option. Maybe someone has modded it in, though.
+IgnatzKolisch Think they're using Russia and USSR interchangeably.
Wikko
They're not interchangeable terms, though.
+IgnatzKolisch That's not my point. My point is that while they aren't, people still use the two designations as though they are.
IgnatzKolisch USSR is basically the same as Russia, its first leaders were Russian, its official language was Russian, anything to do with the nationalism of the countries USSR occupied was forbidden. You must be deluded if you think they are not the same.
So if your playing as a fascist Turkey you can crush the Soviets because they won't be able to get supplies really. Time to play as Germany, Japan and Turkey with bros
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