Had a chance to catch both the F-22 and F-35B at SF Fleet Week. A few years in between seeing both. The F-22 is the loudest fighter I have ever heard! F-35B was loud, but not like the F-22!
And that's why the Raptor is likely the greatest fighter aircraft ever made, IMHO. They perfectly merged speed, agility and stealth with that design. Ridiculous the US Air Force didn't buy more of them, the F-35 is solid for the right kind of roles, but the F-22 just has capabilities that the other struggles to give (notice how the former has to do more of a curve with turns, while the Raptor can nearly spin on a dime? That's crucial in top-notch aerial combat). If I was running the Pentagon today, I'd immediately try to restart F-22 production and give America a full strength 1-2 stealth punch.
@@hawkeyeten2450 I agree, it’s an incredible aircraft. The engines also - they had prototypes of the engine cores 30+ years ago, and still today Russia and China can’t reach the same performance, reliability, efficiency, and temperature / pressure ratios of the F119 engine - oh, and that’s all been surpassed ages ago by future designs lol. A demo pilot let us walk over to the Raptor and check it out up close at an airshow a while back (we flew an old warbird into the show) and I’ll never forget it. Being able to see that plane up close is just amazing. The entire engine / thrust vectoring area is actually blown / cooled and has tiny holes in it, stuff you’d never notice in photos. Tons of sensors and panels I asked about but unfortunately (and understandably) wasn’t able to get an answer for. 😂 My greatest takeaway was just how massive the primary weapons bay was. Looked like you could fit a small car in there - I was able to crawl under it lol - only rule was that I couldn’t touch anything, and no photos inside the string line.
I guess that magnificent bird saw everyone going "ooo" and "ahh" at the F-35 in recent years and felt the need to remind everyone who was still the combat king of the skies (no offense to the F-35, it's a VERY impressive plane, but the F-22 is just on another level).
Yeah that turn rate was kinda nuts. I think it's more limited by the aerodynamics than the G forces at these speeds though. Still more than you or I could stand, but the numbers don't start getting ridiculous unless they're hauling ass, and that wouldn't make for a very good show only being able to see it up close for a second or two as it goes by. Would be cool if they were allowed to go supersonic, but then again I don't live right next to an airport haha.
Being in England it is comforting that with Putin and others in the world American engineering is still top notch. Thanks guys. Also I think your video being not perfect actually added to the experience of not being there and it is actually as we all would have filmed it. It got me more involved with the action ! All the best.
Although, I wish these modern cameras had an option to park the lens at infinity focus so the autofocus doesn’t get fooled in low light and clear sky and hunt around for an object to focus on.
I wish they could develop a routine where the two jets do mirror-image maneuvers and follow-the-leader high-g turns and loops. Such as where they approach each other from opposite ends of the airfield, pass by each other and pull up into Immelmann’s and so forth. Sometimes mirroring the other, sometimes chasing the other. I think it would make a cool show.
That would be so cool. But realistically either they'd be going so fast you wouldn't be able to see it very well from the ground, or they'd be going so slow it'd be dangerous if something went wrong. Keep in mind that there have been many, many airshow disasters, and the hallmark of a great show is something that entertains the fans and shows the aircraft's capabilities while still remaining safe and never really pointing your aircraft at the crowd when you're on the limit. You never really know when you're gonna lose an engine or a control surface. Shit happens. Edit: Just rewatching and at 3:00 you see the transonic pass, then he banks up and starts a turn, and then the camera zooms out and you realize how invisible that is for the audience, and all without afterburner. Airshows are an unnatural environment for planes like this. It's cool if you can visualize what a dogfight would look like but you're just never gonna see it very well from the ground.
@@sntslilhlpr6601 No, a routine with safety precautions first worked into it. Somewhat like a Blue Angels/Thunderbirds routine, but no tight formations, no line-abreast formations. The head-on passes would be offset like 500 feet or more, with a no-go if they don’t see each other. Not a dogfight demo. When I say following each other, I mean like 1/4 to a 1/2-mile in trail. Of course, each aircraft would stay within its performance envelope. One maneuver might have one afterburner climb out away from show center to the left and the other to the right. …and so forth.
Wish I was there. Just this year I finally got to see the f22 while I was able to cross the f35 off the list of aircraft to see last year but being able to see both at the same airshow and same time would just destroy my mind, I probably wouldn’t be able to control my excitement and look like a crazed man
@@Cars-N-Jets "Good evening ladies and gentlemen. I'm F-22 demonstration team superintendent, master sergeant John Lugo from Tempe, Arizona, here to narrate this evening's F-22 DEMONSTRATIOOOON! RAAAZZ, LETS HIT IIIT!" How I wish I got all of that on video.
Everyone thinks this is awesome stuff but i promise there's a maintainer out there saying "please god don't crack a finger brace" while holding a DeWalt with a #30 drill bit in his hand
@@RookFox Exactly, and in the theoretical near-peer conflict scenarios we are dealing with now, maneuverability will mean absolutely nothing. Data and battlefield / situational awareness is everything, and the F-35 delivers that at levels most people can’t comprehend. During a training flight, an F-35 alerted its pilot to a possible ICBM launch - it was a commercial rocket launch ~250 miles away. Don’t get me wrong, the F-22 is the most lethal (overall) fighter aircraft in the world, but in practical application, the F-35 is actually significantly better (not just slightly…)
@@EstorilEm We also needed something we could sell to our allies. We're not allowed to sell the F-22 to anyone, which is great for an isolationist I guess but really when it comes down to it a lot of our strength is from arming the crap out of our allies (and the money that comes with it).
Gotta say never been to an airshow where you can watch them takeoff and land but that’s one of my dreams is to watch fighter jets takeoff and fly super fast right in front of you and then go supersonic it’s awesome the power that they have and that f22 unrestricted climb was crazy awesome never seen something like that before
I’m pulling for the F-35. Most powerful single engine jet fighter in the world. Remembering it first originally started as the first super sonic VTOL (F-35B) in the world.
@@RookFox Online doesn't do much justice, does it? I was at Osh22 and saw Beo perform a twilight show, at that time I hadn't seen an F22, which is now drastically different from Osh22 the funny thing about that is that when Osh22 was happening Cabo was in Milwaukee I believe performing.
I shot the high speed pass with my stupid iPhone and it was so loud, the audio turned out distorted :(( Time to get a camcorder like you have. Awesome video!! I didn't think your shots were too shaky. Is it too hard to keep everything in frame if you use a tripod?
@@Michael_W007 I'm not sure, I did this handheld. By the way, I would still recommend turning your audio way down if filming jets this close even with a camcorder. I had this turned down by what my camcorder said was 24db and well, they were still pretty loud, and you can still always turn the audio back up if you are editing the videos.
@@asymmetricthrust123 They were about the same from what I remember honestly, maybe the F-22 was a bit louder but I think it also flew a bit closer at times
@@spilledmilkgamingYT Yeah probably wouldn't make much of a difference. Some F-22s just end up looking like that over the years and I'm pretty sure the demo team doesn't have one that is specifically assigned to them.
тот самый су35, в котором системы картографирования уровня 80х + 70% авионики французские? Я тебе как русский говорю, все что сделано при путине это дерьмо, этих двух самолётов из видео будет достаточно, чтобы уничтожить весь парк новейших российских самолётов включая все су34, су35 и су57 (с перезарядкой ракет амраам)
You know, it seems to me that with ALL of the Massive amount of money spent/being spent on acquiring SO many F-35's, why hasn't Lockheed designed an "Improved" F-35..?? Maybe calling it the F-37 Improved X....or more simply, the F-37IX..?? And give it 2 of the F-35's engine's, a pair of P&W F-135's.......whereby giving it "EXTENDED" Long range Super-cruise ability coupled with the 2-dimensional exhaust system of the F-22...! (Along with a greater fuel capacity, also)!? And All the electronics Upgraded too!! You know quite literally: Everything upgraded.....Greater weapons' load, etc. What an Aircraft IT would be.......especially coupled with the More-than-Potent Electronic's Suite of the F-35..!! I lay odds that they, the Engineer's at Lockheed, are MORE than capable of making it happen..!! P.S. You know, it could Also be the Solution for a "Next Gen. Aircraft"..!!
It's not a failure, it's crazy expensive but so was the F-22, and the F-22 is faster and more maneuverable which is why it can put better shows but that's not everything there is to a fighter.
You can't really appreciate the sound of the F-22 until you hear it in person. You feel it in your chest as much as you hear it. It's a monster.
You can Feel in The Ground and surrounding Air !
The sound of that F-22 in afterburner... 🤌
I convinced my best friend to go when i told her it fives you rumblies in the tumblies- now shes obsessed woth the "big loud planes" 😂😂😂
The sound of f35 is better than F22
Had a chance to catch both the F-22 and F-35B at SF Fleet Week. A few years in between seeing both. The F-22 is the loudest fighter I have ever heard! F-35B was loud, but not like the F-22!
These demos are insane!!!
@@jordanl4b4ux Nope
The 35 is great and all, but man.... that 22....
No kiddin' Man.....!! The F-22 Raptor.......it's a Meat eater!! "No quarter, & No mercy".
Everything requires relative comparison and insulting the lesser because human brains are simple
the F-35 may be beautiful but no one beats the F-22 it is simply perfect 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Damn Str8t!!! 👍👍👍
HOLY crap... I've seen a ton of F-22 demos, but NEVER seen a pitch-up like that over the runway. My jaw is still on the ground.....
Gravity meet 70k lbs of thrust
And that's why the Raptor is likely the greatest fighter aircraft ever made, IMHO. They perfectly merged speed, agility and stealth with that design. Ridiculous the US Air Force didn't buy more of them, the F-35 is solid for the right kind of roles, but the F-22 just has capabilities that the other struggles to give (notice how the former has to do more of a curve with turns, while the Raptor can nearly spin on a dime? That's crucial in top-notch aerial combat). If I was running the Pentagon today, I'd immediately try to restart F-22 production and give America a full strength 1-2 stealth punch.
@@hawkeyeten2450 I agree, it’s an incredible aircraft. The engines also - they had prototypes of the engine cores 30+ years ago, and still today Russia and China can’t reach the same performance, reliability, efficiency, and temperature / pressure ratios of the F119 engine - oh, and that’s all been surpassed ages ago by future designs lol.
A demo pilot let us walk over to the Raptor and check it out up close at an airshow a while back (we flew an old warbird into the show) and I’ll never forget it. Being able to see that plane up close is just amazing. The entire engine / thrust vectoring area is actually blown / cooled and has tiny holes in it, stuff you’d never notice in photos. Tons of sensors and panels I asked about but unfortunately (and understandably) wasn’t able to get an answer for. 😂
My greatest takeaway was just how massive the primary weapons bay was. Looked like you could fit a small car in there - I was able to crawl under it lol - only rule was that I couldn’t touch anything, and no photos inside the string line.
Did you ever get your jaw off the ground? I know a guy who helps w/ that.
Dude pulled a full cobra 3 seconds after the wheels came off the ground in the 22. What a modern masterpiece of aeronautical engineering.
Or we can just call that a near vertical takeoff.
It's not a cobra...
I sal live it did same thing when so high. 22 can do more than 35
8:27 raptor *smirks* and says, oh yknow just one of the many tricks up my sleeve.
I guess that magnificent bird saw everyone going "ooo" and "ahh" at the F-35 in recent years and felt the need to remind everyone who was still the combat king of the skies (no offense to the F-35, it's a VERY impressive plane, but the F-22 is just on another level).
The f22s ability to do a complete 180 is insane, im not sure how the pilots dont pass out from the G's
if u watch theyre kinda at the center of the pivot point
@rajeke that's true, plus they wear G suits to help with blood circulation, but it's still pretty amazing.
Yeah that turn rate was kinda nuts. I think it's more limited by the aerodynamics than the G forces at these speeds though. Still more than you or I could stand, but the numbers don't start getting ridiculous unless they're hauling ass, and that wouldn't make for a very good show only being able to see it up close for a second or two as it goes by. Would be cool if they were allowed to go supersonic, but then again I don't live right next to an airport haha.
Both planes are ridiculously loud 😭‼️
Not loud enough 😈
They produce a ridiculous amount of thrust
@@ericq9049 The F-35 is LOUD. I heard it over Jones beach and it was single handedly louder than the entire Blue Angels Demo team.
F22 engine sounds are better than any music !
Being in England it is comforting that with Putin and others in the world American engineering is still top notch. Thanks guys. Also I think your video being not perfect actually added to the experience of not being there and it is actually as we all would have filmed it. It got me more involved with the action ! All the best.
Although, I wish these modern cameras had an option to park the lens at infinity focus so the autofocus doesn’t get fooled in low light and clear sky and hunt around for an object to focus on.
Putin lol, be more worried about the US and Israel
The 2 best fighter jets on the planet
The F-35 is cool and all but the F-22 is still a fucking MONSTER
You filmed this? I know you said it was a little shaky, but the tracking was supreme!
Thank ya
All that humidity made for some nice contrail and shock wave action. 👍
F-22: The luxurious car that the boss bought for himself.
F-35: The company car used by the employees.
Magnificent passes with both the F-35A and F-22A in full afterburners. Great footage 🫡😎👍
Seen several F22 demos. Never one this intense.
Great performance show!
Fantastic ! these planes are unmatched anywhere in the world 🇺🇸❤
Both amazing jets, especially the F22, but if they added the F15 Eagle with this also, KILLER SHOW!
Nahh they should’ve brought in the F64
Wow loved this - stuck a big smile on my face 🔥🔥🔥
I wish they could develop a routine where the two jets do mirror-image maneuvers and follow-the-leader high-g turns and loops. Such as where they approach each other from opposite ends of the airfield, pass by each other and pull up into Immelmann’s and so forth. Sometimes mirroring the other, sometimes chasing the other. I think it would make a cool show.
That would be so cool. But realistically either they'd be going so fast you wouldn't be able to see it very well from the ground, or they'd be going so slow it'd be dangerous if something went wrong. Keep in mind that there have been many, many airshow disasters, and the hallmark of a great show is something that entertains the fans and shows the aircraft's capabilities while still remaining safe and never really pointing your aircraft at the crowd when you're on the limit. You never really know when you're gonna lose an engine or a control surface. Shit happens.
Edit: Just rewatching and at 3:00 you see the transonic pass, then he banks up and starts a turn, and then the camera zooms out and you realize how invisible that is for the audience, and all without afterburner. Airshows are an unnatural environment for planes like this. It's cool if you can visualize what a dogfight would look like but you're just never gonna see it very well from the ground.
@@sntslilhlpr6601 No, a routine with safety precautions first worked into it. Somewhat like a Blue Angels/Thunderbirds routine, but no tight formations, no line-abreast formations. The head-on passes would be offset like 500 feet or more, with a no-go if they don’t see each other. Not a dogfight demo. When I say following each other, I mean like 1/4 to a 1/2-mile in trail. Of course, each aircraft would stay within its performance envelope. One maneuver might have one afterburner climb out away from show center to the left and the other to the right. …and so forth.
Wish I was there. Just this year I finally got to see the f22 while I was able to cross the f35 off the list of aircraft to see last year but being able to see both at the same airshow and same time would just destroy my mind, I probably wouldn’t be able to control my excitement and look like a crazed man
Very cool! Great camera work keeping them in view and focus.
Thanks!
Absolutely epic eardrum passion, say no more.
Didn't realise that the USAF gave it's announcers lines of coke before they start the display.
F35 - The budget model
F22 - The Sports model
I know she’s retired but I really wish there was an F14 for this air show ☹️
Same
Blame Dickhead Cheney for that
Don’t we all
The announcer is a true American patriot
Good ol Lugo!
@@Cars-N-Jets "Good evening ladies and gentlemen. I'm F-22 demonstration team superintendent, master sergeant John Lugo from Tempe, Arizona, here to narrate this evening's F-22 DEMONSTRATIOOOON! RAAAZZ, LETS HIT IIIT!"
How I wish I got all of that on video.
@@RookFoxAnd your 2024 F22 PILOT FROM DAVENPORT, Iowa Captain SAMUEL “RaZZ” LARSON!
That's the most electric introduction I've ever heard! He should be in a metal band too LOL
It's Starscream
F-22 is an absolute beast!
Everyone thinks this is awesome stuff but i promise there's a maintainer out there saying "please god don't crack a finger brace" while holding a DeWalt with a #30 drill bit in his hand
Great audio! Well done!
Watching these together makes me wonder why we even bothered with the F-35
The sensor suite, integration, situational awareness, etc is better in the F-35. You're not supposed to have to do these maneuvers in a perfect world.
The F-35 is more advanced but less maneuverable
@@RookFox Exactly, and in the theoretical near-peer conflict scenarios we are dealing with now, maneuverability will mean absolutely nothing.
Data and battlefield / situational awareness is everything, and the F-35 delivers that at levels most people can’t comprehend.
During a training flight, an F-35 alerted its pilot to a possible ICBM launch - it was a commercial rocket launch ~250 miles away.
Don’t get me wrong, the F-22 is the most lethal (overall) fighter aircraft in the world, but in practical application, the F-35 is actually significantly better (not just slightly…)
@@EstorilEm We also needed something we could sell to our allies. We're not allowed to sell the F-22 to anyone, which is great for an isolationist I guess but really when it comes down to it a lot of our strength is from arming the crap out of our allies (and the money that comes with it).
The F-22 is a warrior, the F-35 is a wizard.
cant fault ur tracking was watching this display online and did a much better job of tracking than the offical broadcast did at times
F22A + F35A = Unbeatable
F 35 and F 22 ❤
I was standing on a table behind trying to take pictures when this happened
Love the 35 but that 22 with the dual flame 🔥🔥.
LOCKHEED MARTIN made the miracles... ❤
Love the F35 but that Raptor is special
Well done! 👍
the sweet sounds of freedom.
Excellent job for a camcorder. The mic also did a good, job. Well done.
Thank you!
My favorite part was 3:21
idk what camera you used but the focus and tracking was really good, holy shit
Thanks lol, I just used a camcorder which nowadays you don't see often funnily enough. Panasonic HC-WXF1
On top of needing no introduction, the raptor pulls a cobra immediately after wheels up. The raptor is simply built different, what a monster.
Awesone video, Thanks for sharing
F- 35 🙉👍🔥
nice airshow video .... wow, amazing manuevers F35 and F22
I smell and hear freedom in the air YEEEHAW
the F22 looks so exotic compared to the 35 sheeesshhh
One is $100M, and the other is $400M in todays $$ lol. This is by far the most intense F22 demo that I have seen.
Waoow.. kapanlah pesawat secanggih ini negaraku miliki.. berharap😊
I wish we could have all these things to demonstrate the evolution of human technology without the need to kill eachother with them.
Gotta say never been to an airshow where you can watch them takeoff and land but that’s one of my dreams is to watch fighter jets takeoff and fly super fast right in front of you and then go supersonic it’s awesome the power that they have and that f22 unrestricted climb was crazy awesome never seen something like that before
22 is a beast .
I’m pulling for the F-35. Most powerful single engine jet fighter in the world. Remembering it first originally started as the first super sonic VTOL (F-35B) in the world.
That was the best Twilight show I've ever seen period.
It's the only twilight show I've seen in person, but counting ones I've seen online, same
@@RookFox Online doesn't do much justice, does it? I was at Osh22 and saw Beo perform a twilight show, at that time I hadn't seen an F22, which is now drastically different from Osh22 the funny thing about that is that when Osh22 was happening Cabo was in Milwaukee I believe performing.
@@Cars-N-Jets Yeah haha I was there at Milwaukee that time and saw the F-22. Didn't get many good videos of it though.
@@RookFoxI never got to meet Cabo though, but at the same time I'm from Iowa so you can guess what that means.
The airport scooters have soul
Realy I like this powerful fighters jets
Starscream(F22) and Breakaway(F35)!
Big Brother vs Little Brother
I want one I want one,I promise il play with it all the time
@@andyguyuk1 me too
SOUND OF FREEDOM !!
8:55 so sad, im sure there were vapes and nice control surface movement.
Yeah sadly the auto focus was struggling in the low light, there were a few other similar turns at least.
Beautiful planes
I shot the high speed pass with my stupid iPhone and it was so loud, the audio turned out distorted :((
Time to get a camcorder like you have.
Awesome video!!
I didn't think your shots were too shaky.
Is it too hard to keep everything in frame if you use a tripod?
@@Michael_W007 I'm not sure, I did this handheld. By the way, I would still recommend turning your audio way down if filming jets this close even with a camcorder. I had this turned down by what my camcorder said was 24db and well, they were still pretty loud, and you can still always turn the audio back up if you are editing the videos.
@@RookFox Yeah that's a really good idea. Thanks!
F22 before married, f35 after married
The best pilots!
This is well spent tax dollars. So much more rewarding than welfare checks.
Was the F-22 or F-35 louder to you?
@@asymmetricthrust123 They were about the same from what I remember honestly, maybe the F-22 was a bit louder but I think it also flew a bit closer at times
Nice video
A flock of F-35s and F-22s will ruin your whole career
The F-22 is proof that the United States government has access to alien space craft. 👽 lol
i know now why they dont sell the F22 and sell the F35 !!
It's pretty cool that they would each intercept each other :)
AMERICA! F YEAH!
👍❤
I don't understand why were so ready to move on to 6th gen fighters ($130 million more expensive) when we still have the F-22 in our arsenal.
If the military had used the same logic in the 90s, the main aircraft would still be the F15 and F16
what camera was this filmed with?
@@T1Earn Panasonic HC-WXF1
I can’t tell which one is louder F-35 or F-22?
It was F-22 in my opinion, but it did fly a bit closer, so they might sound about the same
F-22 looks like it has a few panels taken off, any reasons?
I have no idea tbh
Probably less weight but u couldn’t notice any
@@spilledmilkgamingYT Yeah probably wouldn't make much of a difference. Some F-22s just end up looking like that over the years and I'm pretty sure the demo team doesn't have one that is specifically assigned to them.
The jets are wearing out. Lots of pics out there showing replaced or missing panels.
I honestly dig the look, To be Honest. It looks really good up close.
F22 F35 > all the fighters of the world
F-35 💀
F-22 ☠️
Sal f22 live 5 times Iowa and Virginia
only if the f35 looked as good as the f22 when flying...
Su35 en una pelea de perros se los desayuna a los dos 🤣
тот самый су35, в котором системы картографирования уровня 80х + 70% авионики французские? Я тебе как русский говорю, все что сделано при путине это дерьмо, этих двух самолётов из видео будет достаточно, чтобы уничтожить весь парк новейших российских самолётов включая все су34, су35 и су57 (с перезарядкой ракет амраам)
Yippiee
You know, it seems to me that with ALL of the Massive amount of money spent/being spent on acquiring SO many F-35's, why hasn't Lockheed designed an "Improved" F-35..?? Maybe calling it the F-37 Improved X....or more simply, the F-37IX..?? And give it 2 of the F-35's engine's, a pair of P&W F-135's.......whereby giving it "EXTENDED" Long range Super-cruise ability coupled with the 2-dimensional exhaust system of the F-22...! (Along with a greater fuel capacity, also)!? And All the electronics Upgraded too!! You know quite literally: Everything upgraded.....Greater weapons' load, etc. What an Aircraft IT would be.......especially coupled with the More-than-Potent Electronic's Suite of the F-35..!! I lay odds that they, the Engineer's at Lockheed, are MORE than capable of making it happen..!! P.S. You know, it could Also be the Solution for a "Next Gen. Aircraft"..!!
Ｆ-35とかＦ-22の形だけだけどやっぱり好きになれない…YF-23が好き〜
The F35 is an amazing machine, but those F22's give me a bit of a chubby...
Is f35 better?
@@AndrewTate-nf2id It's more advanced with its sensors and stuff, but it's just not quite as maneuverable or as fast as the F-22
Es mucho mejor el F22 raptor que el f35 el raptor es más ágil en maniobras y más veloz
Geesh F22 pilot; show off much 😂
Star last erzlloon for last time... Erzusnbbw tq
6 f35a f22 supply me mizoram lunglei farm veng land go
The f35 can't do stuff 22 do we should made mor 22
F-22 can't do a lot of what the F-35 can do either
F22 better than 35
YF23 looks better and is better smh
F35 is a fail…f22 totally different
It's not a failure, it's crazy expensive but so was the F-22, and the F-22 is faster and more maneuverable which is why it can put better shows but that's not everything there is to a fighter.
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅