Can Memory DAMAGE Your CPU? - XMP Explained
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Why could using XMP void your CPU warranty?
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This car can go 100 MPH!!!
(This vehicle is rated for speeds below 15 MPH. The manufacturer is not responsible for the damage caused by high speeds.)
Remind me a bit of the german autobahn: you should go 130 at max but you won't be punished if you go faster... unless you cause an accident, then you get a worse sentence than you would if you went under 130.
@@macks6234 tbh if you cause an accident above 130 you will die so it's alright 😂
That's genuinely how car warranties work. Your car *can* drive at 120mph, but if you run it at 120mph and then run to your dealer, claiming your tires are getting worn out too fast: "get the fuck out" is what you should expect.
@@ARTEMISXIX is that a joke or are you serious?
@@ARTEMISXIX 130 km/h
*I PAID FOR THE WHOLE RAM, SO I WILL USE THE WHOLE RAM*
eww leave the ram and sheep alone.
@@sopcannon **whole** ram
oh, **every** part of it
@@sara-n5q even the horns?
No problem, just don't use it at high speeds ;p
I think you also paid for Speedo meter and Insurance
Me: *Overclocks RAM
RAM: *Warranty Void
Me: *Changes back to original factory speeds
RAM: *Warranty Regained
Edit: Based on True Story
Crazy Techy Kinda similar to iOS jailbreaking xD. You can restore your phone before going to Apple and they’ll service it for you no problemo. But go in with a jailbreak and depending on the rep, they’ll deny service
Like, really. A good analogy: this "warranty void" also applies to X570 / Z490 motherboards. You touch a multiplier and a voltage? *Fuck* your motherboard warranty. It's gone. Nobody warranties any overclocking. Nobody.
Intel also designs K-series CPUs. Does that mean Intel needs to warranty those OC-gone-bad fuckups, too? No. What about AMD's? Unlocked multipliers for everyone = everyone can now void their CPU warranty *together*!
Selective outrage, lmao... "but muh RAM!"
OH YOU HAVE BROKEN COMPUTER PHYSICS LOL
@@ikjadoon Actually, Intel offer an overclocking warranty for $20 that covers you even if you blow up your CPU by sending 2V through it. Nice rant though.
Me:*overclock the hell out of every part*
Ram: *if i get banged, you havent any warranty*
Me:*doesnt matter, if you dies i pick my hammer and bang the hell out of you*
Just get RGB RAM to double your performance, easy. No need to overclock.
Facts
Lol
Just download ram. Easy. No problem
Your comment is out dated
Hahaha soooooo funny
the correct answer to the question "did you use xmp?" when talking to customer support for warrenty is now and forever "I don't know what that is.". Sad reality we live in.
You should answer it with the question "what's XMP?", now you're not technically lying.
This right here. Same goes for any other questions they ask about your config. Just say you don't know what that is. You just plugged it in and turned it on.
@@Sophistry0001 I bricked my 1070 trying to overclock it and told EVGA what I did, and the guy was like "well we don't give out instructions on how to use the software, so it's our fault, here's an RMA" lol but after seeing a few things about this I wouldn't say that to Intel.
@@TinBryn whats extreme memory profile? intel: i see.
this is why i do't diy my own pc for while now... it just waste time and time... just to dea with warrenty and bullshit.. officer that i don't left my brnad new computer without testing it..
Manufacturer: "Omg look how fast this brand new ram is we just made!!"
People: "runs ram at the advertised speed"
Manufacturer: "yOu WeReNt SUpPoSsEd tO dO tHaT"
It's Intel and AMD that voids the CPU warranty not the ram manufacturer voiding the rams warranty
@@tresnugget oooo
@@tresnugget at least amd still giving higher supported speed
Weren't*
@@CreeperPookie r/woooosh
Is it still a lie?
Riley: "I don't know."
Editor: Y E S
Is it lie promote something as a feature while it void your warranty? If they lie to take your money, you could lie to get it fixed properly.
Fun fact: Dennis edited the video xd
Tell Obiwan that
@@mahmoudsobhy5843 how do you know ?
@@TheNillquest No. That's obviously not a lie (bad practice, sure), but even if it was I'm pretty sure Intel doesn't ever advertise XMP above the rated value of the CPU, since they've recently cracked down on motherboard manufacturers who even allow people to overclock above the CPU spec. I'm sure it's people like you that caused them to do so.
“This Shuttle is rated for an atmospheric entry angle of 6 degrees; anything other than that can be blamed on physics.”.
This mans so serious he ended the sentence twice
@@northlandgaming8460 still 40 seconds since you commened but underrated comment man!
Intel: Overclocking will void u'r warranty.
Also Intel: *Extra Warranty sold separately*
this warranty is not for regular user tbh, this is a very good deal if you into competitive overclocking
Intel and AMD: Overclocking will void ur warranty.*
No Obama Care style for CPU insurance?
i asked about overclocking on intel boards community, they did not answer me, what does it mean?
This isn't apple😂
Linus: XMP stands for xtreme memory profile
Me: Xtra More Performance
hey xactly mega power
eXcellent Motherboard bios Preference.
intel: eXtra more money
JEDEC: "You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master."
"Is it still a lie if you only tell part of the truth?"
Giant "YES" in the background had me cracking up.
Hilarious that this was mentioned as I was literally arguing with a co-worker about this today.
I didn't even notice the 'YES'.
Great humor though.
I'm not worried about the warranty. The real question is, does running XMP RAM cause any instability on critical hardware where reliability is vital?
Yes possibly, which is why you shouldn’t run a chip out of spec for mission critical hardware.
Over clock or not, I wish RAM was downloadable and not physical.
downloadmoreram.com
Downloadmoreram.com
Then people would use pirated Memory. xD
maybe
Bruh
"Voltage through your ram"
Shows CPU
i dont know anything about computers
Probably meant memory controller (that is located inside the cpu)
This comment is dumb.
Usman Saleem sure thing
yair ohana gilad makes sense lol
"XMP Profile"
Ahh, ATM Machine again.
my favorite is "personal PC computer"
Buildzoid: sees title
Also Buildzoid: *angry noises*
@@lawliot Being honest with how time consuming it is, it's not really worth it to do manual OC for RAM.
@@angeltzepesh1 probably why i havent even bothered OC'ing mine, the gains seem marginal at best but some people can see a difference i guess.
@@musek5048 I tried to OC mine, a pair of Corsair LPX 3000Mhz CL15, but after 2 days of errors in memtest i gave up and run them on DOCP settings only. Maybe i could get them better since they are samsung b die, but its not worth it.
@@angeltzepesh1 i have samsung b die as well but i got it because i know its reliable as hell. havent tried pushing it farther than 3200 but my pc is blazing fast already so why the hell would i need it any faster?
@@musek5048 exactly my thoughts, is there really a need for a difference of couple of seconds? same reason why i didnt bother to upgrade my SATA SSD's to PCIE. My current plan is to replace all of my HDD with SSD's, now depends what deals i can get for M.2, otherwise i will stick to SATA on those too.
I need to overclock my life.
Just turn your alarm faster an hour or two
Listen to Dasand Rudestorm, then.
do meth
lttstore.com
Grinding whole beans before making the coffee in a press does that for a lot of people.
Riley rockin’ hard with that sleepy new dad look
Also, if you need support from Intel/AMD and you've enabled XMP/DOCP and they want you to send diagnostic data or the like over, be sure to clear the CMOS (or just load factory defaults in BIOS).
Title then: "Can you overclock your RAM?"
title now: "Can memory DAMAGE your CPU?"
"Should I overclock my RAM?"
Intel and AMD: Yes, but actually no.
Real answer: YES OF COURSE
*t&c apply
Much appreciation for the visuals of hooking up a nuclear power plant directly to a cpu @3:00 - Thanks for making that.
This video is perfect timing! i turned on XMP 2 days ago and was wondering why my games kept crashing. looks like you explained why. thank you
What speed was your ram?
Me, who uses his XMP memory for 3 years: -What is this "warranty" thou seakest of?
Such a timely video after that issue with Gamers Nexus and NZXT BLD regarding XMP voids warrenty. Thankfully, they sorted that out and NZXT changed their stance on the issue.
So you went with this color grading huh!
WE DEMAND LESS SATURATED RILEY
do you know the wae?
WE DEMAND LESS CLOTHED RILEY TOO
@@melaniejason3912 spicy
@@verdigris1457 very
Me: *Overclocks RAM*
Intel: *i9-10900K - Warranty Void!*
Ideally:
Me: *Fries i9-10900K after 1 Year Warranty*
Also me: *Underclocks RAM*
Intel: *You weren't supposed to do that.*
My binned and delidded 10900K was void before it even got to me.
wrong the Intel 10900k is an unlocked CPU valid to OC.
hopey1809 I think you missed the point of this whole video. Yes, the K series Intel chips are unlocked. The point of this video was to point out that by overclocking any part of the CPU (XMP is essentially overclocking the memory controller on the CPU die), then you are voiding the warranty - especially so if you run the memory higher than the spec sheet for the CPU.
@@StolenJoker84 i know. But the comment pun isn't working like that
@@hopey1809 what pun?
The reason they called it XMP is when it’s extreme memory profile is because EMP is electro magnetic pul… [cod flashbacks]
0:44 Ah yes, the XMP profile, or eXtreme Memory Profile Profile...
Ahh yes EMP Pulse (Electro-Magnetic Pulse Pulse), DC Comics (Detective Comics Comics
@@Useless_Rift 😂😂
0:08 im liking the looks of that reality tbh
This, indeed, was a bit of a surprise recently. After enabling AMD's flavor of xmp the system wouldn't even boot in to the 'bios' anymore, that was greeeeat. In the process I learned way more about memory latency then I would have liked. Took some attempts to get it going. Later a bios update became available, with that updated it did run fine at the default 'xmp' profile.
Looking the qualified vendor list would have prevented this.
I’m just really really glad a good friend of mine warned me of the qvl and the issues that comes with ram and cpu in the board. I hope more people who are new like me who wants to build the pc on their own will see this post.
People Look for the QVL for you board, find RAM that supports both the board and the CPU series
Just take out the motherboard's cmos battery and it'd just go to the default settings and then go for the warranty and if they asked just say "What is XMP?"
"seamoss" lol.
the last time i was so early i had no idea what shortcircuit is
It's a movie right?
Riley looking as fresh as when Geordi LaForge got the cyber eyes in Star Trek First Contact.
Lt Dan you got new eyes
Norwegian consumer laws: Product advertises overclocking, therefore warranty must cover overclocking.
What I like about this dude is that his moustache looks like an upper lip of his upper lip
it's kinda a cute thing I guess🙃
It took this video for me to realize why they avoided calling extreme memory profile EMP mode
been quite busy, yet quickbits and tech news always has my time.
It doesn't matter if you use 3200mhz memory with XMP, because a human eye can only see 256gb ssd
The real question which no one addressed is:
*”Should you download more ram?”*
☝️You know where this is gonna go: ruclips.net/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/видео.html
Yes should try it bro
If you succeced please take a min to inform me BEST OF LUCK
👍Whenever my computer is running slow I just download a new 32 GB kit and I'm back to blazin.
😂😂 I can’t wait for that one kid, who going to say that it worked!! 😂
@@zachf9187 oh yeah baby....
You'd think they'd have something in BIOS/UEFI that limits/locks the RAM clock to the CPU memory controller. How hard is it to do that?
Riley Is the best, please don't change. I love your humor and the way you explain things.
AMD not only honored the warranty on my FX 8350 in spite of bent pins even though the RMA page said it would not, but they also sent me a stock cooler even though they said they would not. But I didn't even remember to consider what that processor's spec was for max memory speed.
I did this with my cat and now it's a tiger...
Not recommend
I have an off-topic question, tho:
What is the first thing that a hard DISK drive does/looks for when it's started up?
I've seen that hdds usually stay with the head near the spindle/(rotator thing) for a few seconds at startup and then it continues the rest...
Do hdds first look at the file allocation table when started up?
Maybe their cache and start going through the table of directions trying to read the operative system parts
I see the new boss is workin' ya hard.
Be sure to take a nap between episodes.
As long as things are taken care of, a short nap for hard work isn't always frowned upon.
I can see/feel this too!
When you overclock your ram, and it's so fast that you ramm into ram
Original title: You Should NOT Overclock Your RAM?
Katherine Morton yup
Yeah this is like sony supporting custom android roms, then refusing me a hardware fix because I'd installed said custom android rom.
I bear very long grudges.
You and me both-I still swear off Samsung products
if you want a reputable android brand, i think lg is a good way to go. samsung is digging themselves in a ditch rn (plastic note 20, im using a s10+) and sony doesnt know what they are doing with their aspect ratios. oneplus is alright too
@@royisdabest typing this on a oneplus 8. Solid phone, good support and they actually encourage custom roms. It doent void your warranty. The OnePlus 1 got Android 10 the other day through lineage os
All of those phone warranties with custom ROMs have to be able to be reversed. They never supported custom ROMs, they just wouldn't void your warranty as long as you reflashed their firmware before sending back your device. The problem lies in if your phone bricks with a custom rom then you're pretty much screwed.
@@tresnugget wasnt even that, I flashed it back but they could still tell I'd unlocked the bootloader.
On top of refusing to fix the broken power switch they had the cheek to charge me £15 to ship the phone back, I forgot about that part. I'm getting annoyed again.
3:02 "Putting too much voltage in ur RAM"
Unexperienced PC USER: *OOOH Ur Ram Square? Mine Rectangle!*
Bro, at 1:28 I was gonna google my CPU but then I realised it's the same one you showed!! 🤯
I vote Riley and James for a stand-up comedy duo as an LTX (from the studio) event.
I feel like they are training him (personality wise) to be linus lol.
If you're really worried about running overclocked RAM, just check the maximum voltage of the CPU and buy overclocked memory with an XMP profile that doesn't require more than that voltage to run. That's what I did with my i7-4790K finding DDR3-2133 memory that only required 1.50 voltage.
For some reason stupid RUclips won't allow me to share their own video links and write a helpful caption for the audience, so check the link in reply for that overclocking policy video.
ruclips.net/video/TsRWeOPw0vk/видео.html
Literally the 1% people who’s reading... May your parents Live More Than 100 years with good health 🙏
Yus....first comment again!
You must be working with Linus 😤
it can definitely corrupt windows files and more if its unstable.
When my PC/Hackintosh wasn't booting, I had to reset the CMOS (which also reset the BIOS), so now I'm in macOS and I forgot to turn on XMP, so my 3600MHz memory is only running at 2133MHz
Somewhat similar how phones brag water resistance but don't cover it in warranty
They probably void the warranty because overclocking the RAM is actually overclocking the CPU, because the memory controller is physically on the CPU and XMP or DOCP draws more voltage through that controller.
I've had 1 Ryzen 3200G burn out from this. It was fine for a Ryzen 1200, two ryzen 5 2600, and a ryzen 7 1700.
You should hire this guy LTT
therapist : riley on drugs cant hurt you
riley on drugs :
Me: has a 4th gen i7 which supports 1600 mhz
Me with my 1800mhz ram since 7 years: *I OVERCLOCK THIS TO 2000 MHZ*
This is the most useful TechQuickie I've watched in a long time.
It feels like watching tech news from super mario. It's wonderful.
This is the most educational LMG video I have seen in a long time.
That 'YES' was subtle.
No wonder I already clicked the subscribe button, I can see now you're the brains around here.
Did your mustache eat your glasses?
I've told that "I didn't overclock" lie on two blown CPUs.
the burger on the right at 0:10 probably tastes waaay better than the one on the left
Imagine putting up with months or even years of random BSoDs and general instability, only to find out the problem was being caused by XMP, since your board isn't good enough to run the RAM at it's rated speed.
There isn't a single video thta isn't sponsored. Nice!👍
Yes, if the CPU remembers when it got friendzoned, CPU performance drops significantly.
Riley you are the man! Whenever he is on, Techquickie, Techlinked, Technews, 400 more Linus monopoly channels I have to watch. James is a close second 😉
I got an ad before the video started with linus in it lol
Kids: Buy Overclocked RAM
Men: Overclock RAM themselves
Legends: Buy RGB RAM & overclock
*Ultra Super Hyper Legend Pro Max: DOWNLOAD RAM!*
If don't want to watch the video, just go into your Bios, set the highest XMP, or AMP for AMD, your memory can take, save the settings, boot into your OS, and leave it alone if you are not having any stability, or heat issues, but if so lower the XMP/AMP till it's stable. For example on DDR3(Not SODIMM, or DDR3L) a lot of memory will default to 1333Mhz, or but can be OC with XMP/AMP to 1866Mhz, or 2133Mhz just fine, and in fact AMD will run better by default when the RAM is OC.
In most cases I believe enabling xmp shouldn't void your warranty, however there are those insane kits that do like 4600 MHz and motherboards will throw insane voltages to the vccsa and vccio like 1.5v.
Them: overclocking your CPU will void your warranty!
Me: ha! I didn't even buy a warranty!
Riley: Use an XMP Profile!
Me: Use an eXtreme Memory Profile Profile
3:45
[The Felis Catus dialect is heard]
It's like if lambo said their cars can go over 200 mph but most speed limits are way below. If someone were to ignore the speed limit and crash than it would be hard to get Lamborghini to pay the damages just because they advertised their cars could go that fast. It does make some sense. The cpu sets the speed limit and the just because the ram can go faster doesn't mean it should. So it's kinda like checking to make sure your motherboard can use a cpu, make sure your cpu can handle the max speed of the ram
Casinos sell books on how to count cards...... you try and count cards in the same casino you brought that book from and see what happens lol
Here's how anything can damage your CPU:
1.grab the component
*2.YEET!*
Jokes on you I don't even have a PC
Rileys got the lipstick going strong today!
3:15 My brother used to work as a testing engineer at Intel, his job was to test chips under extreme conditions and see how they degraded over time in order to create the specs they should actually be run at. He says they can tell if the CPU has been abused like that. They aren't putting them in a PC and just seeting if they post they have multi million dollar diagnostics machines where they stick the CPU in it shows the signals coming out if it (think an oscilloscope combined with a logic analyzer), they can even test it if it's non functional in a PC. It shows the waveforms of the TTL signals coming out of the chip and according to him they will show degradation (become less square and more distorted) over time if the chip is run outside temperature or voltage specs. And they can pretty much tell what was done to it based on what signals are distorted and in what way. They may or may not go to the bother of actually doing that but if they really want to they can tell.
As a Freshman Electronics engineer the Transient patterns can tell about wear and abuse very easily. BUT CPU manufacturers actually probably get so many RMA's from faulty hardware and from OEM test analysis queued up that I think they don't bother to deeply analyse every CPU to see if any clock boost was done
The RAM controller is on the CPU, so it does have to work harder when overclocking. This isn't too say it should void the CPU's warranty though.
Ur not telling the whole story, using XMP can damage memory controller which nowadays is inside the CPU. Some motherboards/BIOS if left some settings on auto will bump some voltages much higher then they need to be (like CPU memory controller VCCIO/system agent for intel LGA1151 has an example). So XMP especially very high frequency memory like over 3600 mhz+ can be dangerous. But I do agree that Warranty should cover this, anyway you should have just explained all of it.
Riley without glasses is cursed
With other words:
Just buy RAM kits that will use XMP or EXPO profiles only to match the supported spec of your CPU (AMD 7000: DDR5-5200MT/s; Intel 13th & 14th gen: DDR5-5600MT/s).
Well that's the best way i guess but people like me always think the higher the better and the more it cost the better but you're right sorta i mean if you get a new cpu for example ryzen 8000 in the future i bet it has more mhz for the cpu and you can put more mhz on it so if you would wanna more you would have to pay for new 2 or 4 ram sticks 🤷🏻
@@LayerZlayer2000
I will pair the upcoming Ryzen 9 9950X with a JEDEC ECC memory kit of 2x32GB DDR5-5600MT/s CL40 @1.1V.
3:21 _YES INTENSIFIES_
Same goes for phone manufacturers "Look, we made this phone really really waterproof. Oh, what? The waterproofing failed? Well we can't help you with that, we say "don't put in water" in the manual."
Yup..... Intel denied my warranty on a 8700k due to running memory at 3000mhz on a 3400mhz kit.... I said I didn't bump it up but they were able to find out and were spot on...
i dont even understand what he’s talking about but these are fun to watch!
the council will determine your speed
My laptop comes with 2666 DDR4 Ram, and the 10th gen intel CPU’s support 2933MHz ram, so I overclocked it to 2933 via the BIOS. I have not regretted doing it ever since. Do not be afraid to overclock your RAM guys, it is not dangerous as long as you don’t mess with the voltage.