Deaths of Sid and Nancy Leave Many Unanswered Questions, 40 Years Later
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
- In the 1970s, New York City was crumbling, bankrupt and riddled with crime, but it was where the punks felt most at home. They were defined by their disheveled wardrobe and anarchist attitudes. Two well-known punks, one-time Sex Pistols' bassist Sid Vicious and his girlfriend Nancy Spungen, lived in the Chelsea Hotel. When Spungen was found dead of a stab wound in their room, Vicious was charged with her murder, but the case would never get the resolution many had hoped for. #InsideEdition
"Sid is no long vicious, he's dead" is the funniest and also most disrespectful way any death has ever been reported.
I know right
Idk "ike beats Tina to death"
is a good one!
The day Ike Turner died That's what the NY Post headline read
Welcome to planet Earth.
@@numba2bvi HAHA! This is awesome! thanks for sharing! hahaha!
Omg yes
Sid's own mom is the one who introduced him to heroin when he was a teenager and then she is the one who killed him because he was 'depressed' it's not hard to see why he was so messed up.
That she did..was sad to see Lydon break down talking about him
She even bought the dope for him when he o.d.
Amen, you could see the trama on his face. So sad for both of them.
It’s speculation that his mother killed him.
She shot him up at 5 years old. The dope was paid for by the British government. It was cheaper to prescribe and buy addicts heroin then methadone or dolophine as it was still called then. His mother made it deathbed confession to her nurse who was a well-respected woman that she did give him a hot shot so his mother did murdered him!
The knife was wiped clean. Sid didn't seem like he was smart enough to do that.
Gina Valera
excellant point...he was too messed up
I totally agree
Sid couldn't even wipe his own a$$, let alone a knife.
That's exactly what I thought when I saw that.
I used to think that too, until I read into the facts of the case. When Sid woke up, he cleaned the blood off Nancy, THEN went to the methadone clinic before calling the cops. That doesn't sound like the action of an innocent man. We know that he had likely sobered up by the time he woke up, hence he went to the methadone clinic. So why did he clean the blood off and wait so long to call the cops? To get rid of evidence, I presume.
8:43 “Sid is no longer vicious-he’s dead” DAMN BRUTAL lol
It's New York.
Alex Seravilo SAVAGE
Loved it!!!
Not cool
they would have thought that comment was funny rhey were hilarious
Watch these documentaries:
1 - "Who killed Nancy?"
2 - "Sad Vacation"
3 - "Sid ! (by those who really knew him)"
4 - "The Final 24 hours of Sid Vicious"
Thanks!
Thanks alot..
The final 24 was pretty good
No way in hell did he. I was a young girl who was lucky enough to met them and they somehow became like older siblings or parents in their own way to me. They bought me my first MC and where honestly ice to me. They loved each other dearly even I could see it and they also helped one another as that was clear to myself. No way in living hell did Jon aka Sidney kill Nancy I believe she had enough and need her own pain for personal reason and the last thing she ever said to me and how it was said. Two days later my phone rang again I was a young girl being told not o turn the tv on and that she was killed. My god father was an officer and even said no way could he have killed Nancey and to be so upset. To date I visit her grave her mom does as well. I ask fans of theirs please stop using at her grave I try cleaning it as much as possible but her mom isn't young anymore and when she see's all the drugs hidden and needles left used at her daughters grave it breaks her heart.
Johhny thunders lyrics go,
you were so real, that why they offed you, singing from your grave is so very hard to do.?
For what it's worth, I never thought Sid Vicious was guilty. He was devastated by her death and he never recovered. It's actually quite sad watching that last interview, he was so scared that he had done it and didn't remember. Since he was the only suspect the police ever considered, it seems unlikely that he would have been acquitted and I think he knew that. But the fact that the knife had been wiped clean of fingerprints has always been a red flag to me. If Sid was so out of it that he killed her in some drug fueled rage, he would not have had the wherewithal to wipe off the knife. That was someone with intent to cover their own tracks and frame Sid.
One problem being the 'crime scene' was contaminated & was treated as a 'Murder by sid vicious site' - a problem with 'the wiped knife ' is i hadnt heard of this until a recent 'Sid is Innocent' documentary. Could someone point me to a factual statement by police or pictorial evidence ?
A detective filmed at the time (used in the G RnR S) says 'she had a knife sticking out of her side.( from a one inch deep wound?). if the knife was wiped it wouldn't help Sids defence in saying that she may have stabbed herself.
I believe he did accidently or petulanty knife her ,but believe he would have been found not guilty of murder ,due to lousy detective work ,money was almost certainly stolen from the room & he would have had a good defence team - who may well have got an 'death by accidently wounding ' charge
@@andchat6241 I think it was likely a drug rip gone wrong. Maybe a desperate junky or two breaking into the room needing a fix and things got out of hand with Nancy. I remember I saw a video about its just rumor of course but still very interesting they even mentioned names of who mightve done it. The drug scene was very very dangerous at the time
I agree
Definitely that shady drug dealer who did it
Sid probably knew more but also knew he couldn't say anything and he was being set up for the fall. My guess would be past due dealers coming to "collect" to even Malcolm himself being involved. Malcolm was a snake and was even set out to profit off Nancy's death prior to Sid following her to the afterlife. Who benefit the most
I’ll never declare Sid Vicious and Nancy Spungen as bad people. Both of them were very young and messed up when they died. What the hell do you know when you’re 20-21 years old, even if you’re from a well-off background, and sophomore or Junior in college, and with a stable middle or upper middle class family supporting you.
@JohnnyDeppIsRacist you're retarded
That's exactly the part of the story I am never able to move past; how young they were.
"Sid was a idiot. He looked great though" lmaooo who says that
Alot of people may look great and still be idiots.
Sid was put in the band by Malcolm MacLauren, who owned a clothing store. MacLauren thought Sid looked great in his designs and put him in the band as advertisement. Sid was used-the fact he couldn't play the bass or sing didn't matter, the clothes did. That's not my theory, I read that about Sid years ago.
The guy sounds like an idiot he doesn’t even know how to describe anything everything he says is like a contradiction “ oh yeah New York was beautiful it looks like a huge dumpster fire, Chelsea hotel is like an insane asylum with no security it’s terrible but it’s great”
like wtf
I saw a video about queen and Roger,the drummer said Sid was an idiot too 😂
Its the truest thing said about him
“Simon ferocious” is what Freddie Mercury once called him.
Sid didn't like that.
@@samyandkitty8399 according to Wikipedia, his legal name was John Simon Ritchie.
When I went to see Bohemian Rhapsody I was hoping that incident would be in the film.
@@maudemathildeh335 I think the producers of the movie left that part out because they couldn't find an actor to portray Sid Vicious.
@@marvinthemaniac7698 His mother married a man by the surname of Beverly. Sid's birth name was Ritchie. Upon his mothers second marriage he began to use his stepfather's name of Beverly. So, John Simon Ritchie became John Simon Beverly......
you can never convince me that kid did that. he was obsessed with her.
blessed moma, true he loved her she was his rock.💏💞💋
@@blancamiranda4153 OJ was obsessed with Nicole. Mark Chapman was obsessed with John Lennon. You were saying?
@@greg7656 Nicole was no longer with OJ. Mark Chapman wanted to be John Lennon. Sid was WITH Nancy, she was his girlfriend. There was no unfulfilled desire fuelling the obsession, she was part of his life.
I totally agree 💯% He loved her way 2much..look at him afterwards he was lost and confused..she was his life..may they both rip 2gether now 4ever..
Junkies arguing off his head on drugs he 100% killed her he used to threaten women with knifes before he joined the pistols.
Probably what happened in my humble opinion:
1. The stabbing was connected to a robbery in the room while Sid was passed out because people knew they were flush with cash dropping all over the place.
2. Sid's mom administered or helped Sid administer the fatal dose.
3. The real murderer of Nancy has never been caught and may be dead by now.
In the book “Vicious Too Fast to Live” says they were robbed by a dealer who then sold Sid a hot shot. The heroin they found in the room was much more pure than any other on the street.
@@bryanmurphy276... That's the story doing the rounds for about a decade now.
SID and Nancy were high and careless. They left up to $US3, 000 in their room in a brown bag. It is alleged that a petty dealer/gopher new about the cash. No doubt this is the mystery man.
@@FrostedSeagull doesn't everyone know his name tho he's been called out by people that saw him there and knew he was returning that night
True..it's a sad story all round no matter how she was, the poor girl never deserved to die so young in such a way.
Nancy's mother speculated that Nancy may have manipulated Sid into ending her life. According to her mom, Sid was easily manipulated by Nancy and Nancy had dealt with mental health issues (and had fallen through the cracks) her entire life and had been suicidal since she was young. Her mother wrote about Nancy's life and her family's struggle to find help for her in the book "And I Don't Want To Live This Life".
For some reason it’s chilling to hear him say: under the ground
Makes me shudder every time
Poor baby he was precisely that...just a baby.
@@desertrose1226 No he wasn't a 'baby'. He was a man who strangle his own cat to death for a laugh and then dumped its body in the bin.
@@vermilliongecko ok
@@desertrose1226 poor baby? Seriously? Do you know how many poor babies out their try to provide for their families in honest ways in poverty and make their way up difficult circumstances? Stop glamorising drug addictions and trash attitudes.
Same
The way the reporter said Sid is no longer vicious he's dead. 😂
Neh-Bih Sangbong ok
@@MsEliteForever yeah 😂
*drops mic*
I remember that. He got a lot of flak for it.
@@pjt3887 oh wow. 😂 It's just something out of the ordinary I've heard when it comes to reporting death on the news. I would not be surprised at all by the backlash he received from that reporting.
I remember when that happened. I was about 13. I remember thinking they seemed so old. Now, I know they were just kids.
so you're in your 50's? you don't look that old in your RUclips profile picture
The Chelsea hotel actually changed the numbers of all their rooms as they could no longer handle the stream of visitors wanting to see the place where Sid and Nancy stayed. They considered it a terrible event and wish that fans would leave it alone.
I agree. It was a terrible event..who wants see a room where someone was murdered in ??? People glamourized their life and relationship .In reality it was dark. They lived a drug fueled life style which lead to destruction. Really depressing if you wanna think about it. That energy isn't something to glorify..
I wonder if the Dakota did the same thing after the murder of John Lennon. The Days Inn at Corpus Christi did so after the murder of Selena.
@@SEGASister Yoko still lives in their apartment at the Dakota. John was shot on the steps at one of the entrances on the sidewalk. I’ve been there, there’s a gate and a doorman, nothing to indicate what happened there but everyone knows.
They also changed the room numbers because people kept posing in the spot where Nancy died. There’s an original Chelsea occupant who’s lived their since the 60s and she got real upset with all the people. Since she was there when it happened. Just for more context
So sad to hear anyone say they want to be under the ground. If you're feeling this way I'm praying your life gets better soon.
Yes, every life is valuable
@@matzmieze464ehhhh I wouldn’t say every life but sure
Hey you scrolling through the comments have a great day 😍😘
Taliya Lewis thank you. ☺
Your welcome
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@MerksPintSizedPenis someone's having a bad day
There's a great documentary that covers this called Who Killed Nancy? It goes really in-depth and can be found on RUclips for anyone interested in more of the story.
Megan Cook lovvvve that doco, never seen one about this subject that covers so many parts.
Thank you for the name to the doc. Can't wait to watch it!
Great book also called Vicious too fast to live.
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Megan Cook can you paste the link thanks
40 years later
First one to like?
1978
Yeah. 40 years..
It hit me after..like damn
I was 12 years when all this was on the NEWS. Sid sang "I did it my way"
How could Sid have killed her when he was passed out from Tuinal at the time of her murder?
They need someone to blame...
Welcome to NY
Tuinal?
The transition between consuming and passing out I guess.
sally smith “even though Sid didn’t get to tell his side of the story.”
Well considering he was convicted with no evidence and he couldn’t even tell what happened he had to say something...
In all the confusion Everyone who was there that night agreed on 2 things 1) that Sid was not conscious the entire night. He was completely gone on tuinals 2) Nancy was flashing a lot of cash in front of desperate addicts. I don’t think for a second that Sid killed her. There was no money in the room when the police searched it.
If the money's gone and Nancy's dead it's pretty dumb of police to consider Sid the prime suspect.
Sid absolutely did NOT kill Nancy. Not only was she his lover but she was also his caregiver. She took care of him like a mother. He could not survive without her.
Anything is possible when you're high on drugs. You can snap. Nancy loved to argue. Sid prob snapped.
Or they could have had a suicide pact.
He was high as a kite. Ozzy Osbourne tried to strangle his wife when he was high and didn't even remember it when he woke up in the jail cell. So yes, it's absolutely possible he stabbed her. She was most likely high as well, otherwise she could've tried to use the phone and call for help or just try to alert a neighbor in the hotel
HE KILLED HER.
@@patricias5122 NO HE DIDNT DUMBASS
@@breannebellezza9755 YES HE DID
I dont think Sid Killed Nancy..
me to i think it was a dealer
@@alimarpr1110 Or she killed herself.
I think it's very possible that she stabbed herself. After all she was seriously mentally ill and on top of that did lots of drugs... In her mothers book about her she was clearly suicidal from a very young age.
@@josefinebliss2801 ù
I agree. I think Sid was passed out, someone came looking for drugs or was there delivering drugs, maybe they even tried to "make a pass at her" and when she said no, tiny man got mad, stabbed her, took the cash and never looked back. He knew no one would look too much further than Sid since it was Sid's knife and they were high AF and "druggies" so no one would really care too much. Nah, no way Sid killed her, dude could barely function, and he loved her, in their own weird way, they both loved each other. Just my opinion based on far removed, personal observation of their interviews, of course. A shame that no one back then saw these people worthy of the resources to find answers.
Deborah Spungen (Nancys Mom) wrote a wonderful book called "And I Don't Want To Live This Life." The title is a line from a poem that Sid wrote for Nancy after her death, which he sent to Nancys mom in a letter from jail. Anyway the book talks about how Nancy was from a baby all the way up to when she died. It also details what Sid & Nancys relationship was like when they visited the Spungen home. It's pretty graphic in it's details. It's a really great read and gives amazing insight to Nancys rages and outbursts, which apparently had plagued her from birth.
Sure.i read this book as well, sounded like a mum that gave up on her kid by intoxicating her with barbiturates at bedtime rather than attempting a more healthy coping mechanism…..hey but if the baby too had colic,even I myself,was given little spoonfuls of Creme de Menthe .Which yes it’s alcohol,kiddos. However,this was back in the 1960s I believe Nancy was born round this time……BUT BARBITURATES EVERY SINGLE NITE ? Ah okkk mummmy Dearest not Nearest.I always felt close and had a lovely relationship with my own mum.
Plus after the colic was more tolerable of course THE SMALL SHOTS WERE D/C . Though I do have a lifelong birth defects including GI issues ] A lot of boomer” babies I’m guessing “ had birth defects or issues of some sort of thing, mums just wanted to sleep the nite.
Hence,giving the child a sedative” would also help mum ….MOTHERS LITTLE HELPER”
'Sid is no longer viscious - he's dead' Jeez what kind of news headline is that??!
I remember Sid walking through Union Square, NYC when i was a kid. My dad was a 60's radical and i had lived on many communes and other strange places, so, I thought that I'd seen it all. but Sid's look at the time was so completely other worldly. It was mind blowing. Frankley, he looked insane in a completely new way. Soon after, I saw, The Great Rock and Roll Swindle at the original Max's Kansas City. And few years later I was a punk myself. LoL
He was a cutie pie
Your so lucky
Sid was a victim of his stage persona. When Nancy was found dead, the public thought, “how could it be that a guy named Sid VICIOUS didn’t do it?” His name and image were enough to condemn him.
VERY good point
Sid Vicious was innocent 💔
Lonely Bubblegum Girl he definitely is.
Gary Oldman's best movie portrayal ever. He should've received an Oscar.
Speek No Evil He said he regretted doing that movie. Daniel Day Lewis was offered the part, but refused it. I agree Gary was awesome in that role.
Bram Stokers Dracula is my favorite Gary Oldman movie. Or Leon the Professional.
Gary Oldman is a great actor but pulling off the role of a 20 - 21 year old???? nope. bad casting
@@bwah7 I meant when he was younger
huh? I was referring to the original post - the fact that Gary Oldman played Sid Vicious in the move Sid n Nancy - he acted well but was too old for the role i thought
They need to re-open this case. It deserves a proper, professional and accurate resolution! They closed it because their only suspect died and they didn't want to bother to find out the truth about a couple of, in their opinion I'm sure, useless junkies. Whether Sid did it or not, the case deserves to be solved!
Why? To satisfy your curiosity? Everyone directly connected to the case is dead. NYC has countless crimes that need solving, with real, living people waiting for resolutions. Feel free to hire a private detective and pay for an investigation with your own money, though, if you really feel strongly about it. Spare us New Yorkers some tax money...
Just the reaction I'd expect from a typical ignorant yank.In the interest of justice alone,no-one whoever or whatever they Jare deserve to be remembered in death as a killer if they were not guilty of the crime.Especially when the person killed was someone close to them.Why should he have to pay for a private investigation to be done when clearly the proper authorities didn't carry out a proper investigation of the scene and circumstances originally.A new investigation should be done without prejudice,to learn what they originally missed!
Thanks Darren Parker, that's exactly how I feel too!
Thank you for being respectful when telling the tragic story of these incredible kids. Youth can be a double edged sword for kids with exceptional talent.
The no longer kids lmao
No offence, but neither of them had exceptional talent. Sid could barely play his bass. McLaren got him in the Pistols because he looked the part and would bring more controversy, to make McLaren more money.
@@kobalt77 Perhaps ‘talent’ may not be the right word to describe them, but they did have something.
@@andrewbowers_ Agreed.
Although Sid was sadly a Junkie .I never believe he Killed Nancy . I believe someone got away with murder
Rockets Redglare
@@horrorfan5157 Yes..he was their dealer...
I never thought Sid murdered Nancy and I still don't believe it
I agree
@@jenniferandre3247 Nice that you all have such a romantic, no-nothing notion of Sid, but might want to read up on him. Troubled, violent guy from childhood - tortured and killed a pet cat, as a teenager threw a bottle at a woman in a bar and blinded her in one eye. Did he kill Nancy? No idea. Was he capable of it? Certainly.
@@greg7656 i am very aware
Anyone that's done any research knows Rockets Redglare is considered/suspected in Nancy's murder.
INSIDE EDITION MAKING GOOD CONTENT???
Better than TMZ
Conceal questionable
@Noble Failures elaborate -_- pls
Noble Failures what does that mean?? Cupcake wars has what ???
No
They where 20 & 21 how can you say hopeless junkies ? I was hooked on dope for many years got clean for years and got hooked again got clean it never goes away but people do get clean and some stay clean
Eric Last absolutely!
Agreed. I was a horrible junkie all through my twenties. I live a very normal married life with a good professional job now. People can change.
Exactly, they were so young. I think the fame and money fuelled the fire sadly.
"NANCY
You were my little baby girl
And I shared all your fears.
Such joy to hold you in my arms
And kiss away your tears.
But now you're gone there's only pain
And nothing I can do.
And I don't want to live this life
If I can't live for you.
To my beautiful baby girl.
Our love will never die."
- Sid
So sad and touching. Sid was a lost little child without his Nancy
So touching..😭❣️💐🥀
0:08 "she was definitely the Yoko of the 70s"
Given that the hotel had a bad reputation and there was certain corridors you couldn't walk down without being mugged, its so obvious that someone else killed her. People knew they were rich or at least thought they were rich and a perfect target to steal from, especially because they were always so out of it. However Nancy was usually more level headed than Sid and that may have taking any robber by surprise so they stabbed her quickly and took whatever they could. Sid was so out of it, he didn't even know what had happened or if he had done it. He couldnt remember a thing and was probably not even conscious before it happened. When the investigators said he was suspect because he was the only one in the room, well DUH... The attacker is hardly gonna stay in the room and given that Sid was passed out, I don't think he should of been treated like a suspect. Another thing that possibly happened is that they owed drug dealers and Nancy didn't have the money on time. Maybe they lied and promised some big money, exploiting the Sex Pistols fame or yes, it could have been a suicide pact. I read Nancy's mothers book and Nancy always spoke about wanting to die and I think she even asked Sid to kill her. But apparently Sid was also abusive on drugs and bit her ear once and it needed stitches. He also dangled her out a window according to her mother.
It's amazing how the environment shapes music, whether its the danger of '70s NY punk, the politics of UK punk, or the gloom of '90s Seattle grunge.
I lived in the Hotel Chelsea for 3 & 1/2 years, and the elevator used to stop on the 1st floor when nobody pressed the button. They tried to fix it, thinking it was a short, but it happened inconsistently. We figured it was Sid or Nancy coming and going.
What is it with 1st floors lol
The lift in my building always stops on the first floor regardless of nobody getting on or off at that floor, we've come to think that we have a resident ghost and say hi and bye to it now lol
Sid was on the fast-track to tragedy no matter what...a matter of “when” not “if”
40 years on, still love you SID. RIP.
Finally a cool interesting vid on inside edition. Badass band 🤟🤘
I was in New York in the 70's . Thought I'd check out the Chelsea as I heard it was a home of artists , poets . I couldn't believe how EXPENSIVE it was to rent a room . All the bohemians &" punks " staying there were rich . I found the hypocrisy unappealing and avoided CBGB'S and the " scene " from that that on .
Damn that’s a cool story that would change my perspective on the scene as well
Gotta say, great segment from Inside Edition. Finally!
Pearl Finney right so good!!
Agreed
She was 20? Stay away from drugs, kids.
She looked like an attractive 45!
It's a tragedy to be lost in pain like this. Thank you for sharing.
Rip Sid Vicious and Nancy we hope they find each others 💕
I wish I could time travel to New York 1978 to just see what it was like.
Because Sid died, an investigation was closed. Which meant there was a murderer walking around scott free.
The way I see their relationship is like this, one is the dynamite, one is the match, separately they’re okay, but together they exploded. I think they both just brought out the worst in each other and egged each other on
So New York looks like the 1970s again.
Kinda, but today's music sucks!!!
The Film, all though a Classic, still glamorised the story, everyone including Johnny Rotten said things were a thousand times more worse when it came to Sid & Nancy's life and relationship. And did you all know that Gary Oldman was wearing Sid's real life famous padlock necklace in the movie?
Did Not know that mate..
Howd they even get his necklace
Crazy
@Philip Holmes Ah ok tnx mate!
Damn.. must been pretty weird wearing that js..
BIlly Ray John wanted to sue but he had the lawsuit with McLaren at the time. I do agree the movie glamorized it A LOT. The end scene especially.
@@goldfishcakes329 I did not know that...thank you Diana..
Real life always is!
The fact the prints on the knife were wiped clean indicates he didn't do it. He wasn't bright enough to wipe prints off a murder weapon, plus wasn't he out of it, so how could have he done it?
Nancy's mother speculated that Nancy may have manipulated Sid into ending her life. According to her mom, Nancy had dealt with mental health issues (and had fallen through the cracks) her entire life and had been suicidal since she was young. Her story is actually heartbreaking. Her mother wrote about Nancy's life and her family's struggle to find help for her in the book "And I Don't Want To Live This Life".
can't forget where I heard, they were partying, shooting up with all kinds of unsavory types, some had the idea to rob them later in the night, which is what happened and Nancy got stabbed for it. When Sid woke up from his Narco sleep, he was classically framed.
So did they ever check out Victor as a suspect? He was there the night before and then says he moved out the day she died.
He didn't do it.
Cortney Green Sid vicious seemed not guilty by His Public...case closed !!
I feel sorry for Sid Vicious. He loved Nancy & that ruined him. He became the victim of the murder of his gf & became upset of the accusation & at last killed himself by drug overdose. There's no denying that Sid was super cute.
@sally smith ok. Guys I don't know anything about him. I only watched a video about him for the first time & have no idea about his behavior or nature. If what you say about his behavior is true, then I don't like him anymore. I don't like a nasty person.
belajadevotchka2 I’m not surprised he had a low IQ and that’s because he was a Taurus
CaramelManiChula not saying he didn't have a low IQ but the irony in your comment. because he was a taurus 😂
😩😩😩😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You don’t have to hate him. 😂😂But the guy was no looker and he looked dirty asf!😷😂
I didn't realize how young they were when they died.
It's a bit suspicious that the knife was wiped clean. If he was stoned enough to kill her and he wasn't the sharpest knife in the draw to begin with which he wasn't everyone says that even John Lydon (aka. Johnnie Rotten who was his friend) then he wouldn't have been compus mentus enough to have done it.
They call Sid and Nancy story "anti-Romeo and Juliette" but the stories end the same with knives and drugs
Anti Romeo and Juliet? I would say that they were Romeo and Juliet from the Punk Music. Romeo and Juliet weren't in love, they were obsessed with each other. It was never a love story, but a satire about teenage lust and a cautionary tale about romanticizing young love.
Oohh😮 a long upload from Inside Edition! I love it, much better than the one to two minute clips👍
I thought it was Geraldo Rivera reporting until they showed the guy
MATTHEW CARROLL I did tooo. Sounds like him
One of the things that we may never know what really happened that night. So many rumours and theories and none of them verified and nearly impossible to do so now.
Well at least there at peace and together now ,RIP to them both ❤️
THIS IS AMAZING!!! Love this content, and style of videos. Keep it up guys, you’re doing great!❤️
check this out. if they described sid as stupid and moronic then why would he wipe down a knife. especially while intoxicated. they also mentioned there being money in the room. did vicious is a celebrity at the time and nancy “wanted him for his money or whatever” so i think someone went for the money and nancy tried to stop it so she got shanked and sid didn’t hear anything
Sid is no longer vicious he's dead, wow savage old man 🙉
Sid's mum abused him in every way possible. People may not have liked Nancy, but she did love him & I think she wanted to protect him.
She got him hooked on heroin. She helped him to an early grave.
Protect him? Yeah ..as in their suicide pact..
I think it went down very similar to the scene in the movie Sid & Nancy. I think Nancy could have gone for help otherwise..... The wound was not that bad but she wanted to die and she didn't want to be saved. It took her awhile to bleed out and die. She went into the bathroom when she could have gone out of the room screaming for help. Sid had that note in his pocket saying they had a death pact. Not only that he told the police he did it because he was a "dirty dog". He did it. And she could have survived but she didn't want help and she waited it out until she bled to death. The end.
Comparing Sid to Manson is pretty absurd.
No way would Sid have wiped the knife clean. He was too out of it to think smart.. It was a robbery and he was set up.
Like John Lydon said, "Heroin killed Sid and Nancy." end of story.
So sad every time I hear this story. I do not believe Sid Vicious was treated fairly for a homicide he was accused of. 🥺✝️
Anyone interested in this story should read "And I Don't Want to Live This Life : A Mother's Story of Her Daughter's Murder" by Deborah Spungen.. Truly heartbreaking story. These kids lived their short lives in so much pain. God rest them.
Jackie Wilson That's a really great book. People should read it before criticizing Nancy.
Very disrespectful way to announce a death! Did they just drag his body out in that body bag...not even on a stretcher?!!
The media coverage of both these kids deaths was absolutely disgusting. Sid's management made t-shirts, I mean what in the hell is wrong with some people.
They will never know the complete truth of what really happened.
The Chelsea wasn't about artists. It was about drugs and alcohol.
Not mutually exclusive.
Ugh, horrible place depressing suicide spot, absolute hole.
Not everyone has a trust fund
Now with all the remakes, this is one I would watch
Reading in viv albertines book she said when Nancy first came to London that she was on the run from trouble could be related to her death
According to this video, the knife was wiped clean. Why would he wipe the knife clean just to call for help?
Everyone on here should read the book Nancy's mother wrote!!! She talks about Nancy's mental health problems that started showing when she was just a little girl!!! Explains things about Nancy most dnt know. Sorry cant remember the book name I read it in the early 80s when I was in jr high!!!!! 🤯🎃💀👻🧟♀️☠🤩💚✌❕❕❕
Michelle Kennedy it's called and I dontwant to live this life...
@@ernestinemaloy6752 Thank you!!!
Excellent book! I recommend it to anyone who's interested in Nancy's life
@@floydxpixie thanks, I'm definitely gonna check it out!
Read the book too,
Nancy's mother said right from birth Nancy cried for hours as if in pain or anger. As a toddler and young child everyday was a struggle. Teenage years an absolute nightmare. Nancy leaving home before her 18th birthday was a relief to the entire family.
The book, I felt, was written with understanding and love by Nancy's mother.
such a sad rock n roll story......people hated her but Sid loved her.
Loved this!
Punk forever!
Days after Sid's death his mom was brought to a recording session in NYC for the album Static Age by The Misfits. Best 1degree of separation in early punk. RIP Sid.
Jerry Only of the Misfits was at the party they had for Sid the night he died.
I moved to NYC in 1976 and it was unbelievably wild. It was dangerous and exciting! I was 18, from a rural area and found it extremely stressful and wonderful! CB's and Max's were my second homes, as I was in a new wave band. There was nothing like New York in the 70's! Now, it's like Disneyland--totally boring. I moved out.
Sid & Nancy is the reason I didn't do heroin despite doing every other drug. Punk Rock saved my life.
Sid never lived up his talent. He was a limited bass player but sang lead vocals on Something Else Cmon Everybody and the classic My Way He made his mark but could have done so much more No one really believed Sid could commit murder More likely she answered the door to the wrong person Sid may not have been as good as Glen on the bass but he had the attitude the Pistols needed
RIP sid hope u playing them all up .keep on rocking sid sadly missed
Courtney love auditioned to play the part of nancy in the alex cox film, interesting!
She's over qualified. LMFAO
She had a small part in the movie as Nancy’s friend.
There both ugly.
she was the replacement in Sid dream sequence after Nancy died, then she lived the dream by killing Kurt
Courtney love was an idiot! I hate when people compare Curt n Courtney to Sid and Nancy.. not even close other than druggies and demise. Sorry nothing against you. Just my trigger shot right there. Gday mate
I think his friends had enough of her.
I always believed he stabbed her. The knife was wiped clean. He went to the methadone clinic the very next morning. Maybe they were arguing she threatened to kill herself w the knife or him.. who knows exactly what lead up to it but yeah I believe he stabbed her. He couldn't live w what he did.
SNL said he was going to change his name to Sid "Not such a bad guy" as part of his defense. Never forgot that.
Listen man, Sid ate 30 Tuinals the night before. Wipe the knife clean? He was lucky he was still breathing.
tragic toxic couple but they loved each other :'(
Sid got paid in cash, yet wasn't it reported there was no cash in apartment ?... sounds like he was passed out an she put up a struggle before bleeding to death. Either way it sounds like a slow sad end to a fast life. They were both kids without guidance
Drugs. Drugs plain and simple. There's nothing wrong with being in a hate group as long as you watch yourself.
I do not think Sid killed Nancy. And I don't even think Nancy killed herself either.
It's kinda hard to hear the people talking with the background music.