@@svfantom7776 i like that we can see more unedited videos &interviews from the past... Ya know? Picking apart the mashups &really having an opportunity to hear what the musicains were trying to say, not just what mtv, vh1, the media wants you to hear. Alot of interviews with the bigger talents was scripted tho soo nobody wants to hear more of that anywayz me thinks
I remember when I was little & going through my dad’s cassette tapes. Came across The Exploited & Descendants. Ended up showing my friends & we all fell in love with the music. Good times.
*@Joshua Stephens* _ Took me just one minute to realize.....this narrator ..a bloke trying to sound New York..... Reed was never so hard pressed to cooperate on a cliché venture like this... especially since _"25 Years Of Punk"_ is an anachronism in itself..... Hardly a topic which Reed around 2000 would be interested in.....
Hippies had died a death years before............... Punk was actually a rebellion against prog.rock, corporations, 7 minute guitar solos and everybody dressing the same.
I wasn't a punk, but I did go to an Iggy Pop show once, he was greeted with a shower of spit, the odd beer bottle, and he had his member out for half the concert and my ears rang for about a week quite a spectacle. There was a lot of punk I didn't care for but it helped bring rock out if it's stagnation and really loved the New Wave movement it spawned, for that I am greatful to punk
New Wave/Post-punk is fantastic. Those bands are the true heirs of the early 70's prog rock scene, in the sense that they were musically creative, experimental, fearless.
1:30 “Toto, Kansas, Foreigner, all that crap.” LMAO I love Joey! RIP to all of the original Ramones who were taken from us... Joey, DeeDee, Johnny and Tommy... gone but NEVER forgotten!!!!
It’s crazy he would talk crap about those bands for being soft yet him and the rest of the band were influenced by Phil specter and all the bubblegum pop he produced in the 50’s especially the girl groups
Only because I've seen every punk documentary on RUclips, I had to do about half an hour of searching before I found one I hadn't seen. Glad I found this
I remember catching this on VH1 a while back.. I taped it actually, but that tape is long since missing or else I would have converted it and uploaded it.
Buzzcocks, first show I went to.. 1993. Only a few people showed up since they were unknown where I lived at that time. Was awesome. 2nd show was the dead milkmen, and the drummer gave me his shoes.. good times. Bad shoes.
+Enzo Ferrari there's always been abit of punk rock in rap since the 80's a lot of Hip-hop bands sampled Ramones records and dead boys records but I could never see 50 cent ever becoming a punk rocker but I could see Kanye West labeled as a punk rocker or a electro punk artist that is simular to alen Vega
This is the third time I've watched this dedication to punk music. Thanks so much for posting it. It's the most captivating, fascinating and brilliant video on RUclips!!! More please!!
In this documentary I miss the mod bands like The Kinks, The Who and Small faces who were not Punk bands, but contributed a lot to the 'image' of Punk. I mean My Generation is a Punk song.
Really impressed with this doc, I gotta say. I feared you were just gonna skip from the Pistols to grunge, but you did a great job of describing the 80s scenes, and even gave a mention to my faves, Hüsker Dü. Great job, man.
Hüsker Dü = The Beatles of alternative rock. 2 exceptional songwriters, extremely prolific in 4-year span (1 EP, 5 LP's including 2 doubles) and then disappear never to reunite.
Husker Du did so much in such a brief period of time. It's mad because I could easily see Husker Du having been able to stretch their discography across like 15 whole years. Somehow, they did all that in only 4.
Polite J-F, the beatles couldn't make a Carl Perkins song to save their lives.............FACT./ Fuck you for bringing this up. Have you some DINOSAUR JR. You fucking CHARLATAN..........ruclips.net/video/JXkN3nJyWEA/видео.html
The 'NEWS' for all you Kids are: The DAMNED were the first Band to release a Single ( New Rose ) and a LP ( Damned, Damned, Damned ) in the Uk in 1976. The lame Pistols came out with their 'Never mind the Bollocks...' in 1978. At this time the RAMONES got out their 3rd record. AND: When the Residues of the Pistols released a record with the name 'The great Rock'n'Roll Swindle, an american Band called the GERMS put out the very first Hardcore Record called ( GI ). And always rember: In Hardcore noone can hold the candle to the BAD BRAINS!
Love The Damned. Saw them many times. Dave Vanian kept telling me he really loved my coat. I think he was hoping I'd give it to him. I didn't. I worked hard making that damn coat lol. Captain Sensible always was playing hip hop backstage ironically. I at least think it was supposed to be ironic. He was a hilariously funny guy. This was all in the late nineties, mind you. The chick from Sisters Of Mercy was in the band at the time, she was dating Vanian. Cool meeting her too.
The Damned, the absolute greatest! Criminally under recognised to the detriment of every punk, goth, new wave fan out there who hasn't had the pleasure of hearing them (myself included until more recently in my life)
Turkey Bowlwinkle Hahaha! Good retort. I saw The Cramps at a club here in Seattle in the mid 80s - fantastic show! And I agree. Kinda psychobilly & kinda cow punk, not straight punk punks.
To be honest, in the early to mid 70’s you guys already had a vibrant pub rock underground that was healthier than anything we had at that time. The CBGB scene might’ve given the scene a new title and the Ramones might’ve influenced a sound but the English scene was well underway. Nothing beats The Pink Fairies and Dr Feelgood. It always gets on my nerves that the press ignores the early days of the British Underground.
Well thank god that's all over. Now the record labels tell you which chords to play and nobody has to think. Look pretty and have a dance routine, you are gold.
Rickey Ryan Spot on. It would be a great situation for rock to come back strong in the mainstream. I just don't understand why rock is so dead right now. It honestly feels like rock bands will never be back again.
Even though Sex Pistols disbanded with only 1 album, the album is one of the most influential debut album in music industry. What most people forget is that it's not only the songs/album but their Image, fashion and hairstyles has also been an important influence on the punk image. Now when you listen to the record the songs doesn't sound boring or dated instead it still sounds fresh and powerful with full of raw energy, aggression and power and Johnny Rotten's sneering delivery and "half-singing" is what made this album a game changer!
@@jaguaron007 I love both bands and I hear almost no Ramones influences in the Pistols lone studio album proper. Perhaps in their cover of "Substitute" by The Who (which Da Bruddahs later also covered) or their demo version of "Roadrunner" by Modern Lovers, but in going down the track list of Never MInd The Bollocks I'm just not picking up any Ramones vibe or sound...
Punk music died very shortly after it was born . It was never meant to become part of the institution. What it did was to empower people with the belief that they had the right to express themselves. This spirit lives on and many young punks of the day are equally responsible for liberating many of today’s generation.
@@exxumma devils advocate here Punk has never died it in hiding Something like this can never truly die I will listen and be inspired and may not be around as much true believers will believe it is still lives
I got into punk after the British Metal invasion, hung out at a local punk club started in 1982. Very loud, walls painted black with graffiti , slam dancing, 50 cent beers & byob, whiskey. Always stood in front of stage, often slam dancing. Music so loud , ears ringing for days. It was hard to know or get a hold of any records. A friends brothers used to go to NY to get as many underground records and bring them back so we all could listen. Mostly a lot of local punk bands played,so many of them. I don’t remember names & of course no one got signed. But what a statement punk made for the times we were in. To ruffle the feathers of society and scream in their face, “we are not like you and don’t fall for all the bullshit you & the establishment is trying to tell us to be”. They’re all puppet sell outs. I still feel the same, so I am still very punk in my thoughts, actions &ways. I reject phones & those zombie fucking puppets, easily manipulated by the marketing, mind control from the people who are so rich, yet still want not only all your money, but your soul too. DANCE PUPPETS DANCE. And go wait in line for the new iPhone! Puppet Generation, so brainwashed and annoying! Don’t you hold up a phone camera in front of my face when I’m trying to watch the show, cause I will swat it across the room and not give a fuck!
@@JustJeph33 You're right, unfortunately. More and more I'm thinking that generation x may go down as the last purely human generation ever. Yes, we had technology but we weren't TOTALLY ADDICTED TO IT 24/7!! I thank the lucky stars I grew up when I did (born in 1974).
The world needs something akin to punk to happen again. There's lots of good stuff out there, especially in the metal scene, and stuff like the retro-synth movement, that I personally enjoy. But there's nothing really out there in the mainstream to blow it all apart and blow away all of the bull. Maybe one day, after the apocalypse or whatever, something real will emerge and shake it up like punk did. I don't know. It needs to be dangerous and actually scare people.
Devin / Neon Shark rap rn is the closest thing to punk we have but a lot of it is garbage. Just like you could say back in the 70s and early 80s people would shit on punk
This is one of the best music films ever! Interviews are like bullet points and then it's all about the bands. A finely curated assault from the best bands ever. One thing. I had instant love for Nirvana. There was nothing like them and nothing still. Nirvana is not a punk band. Nirvana is Nirvana. Saw their very last concert in Chicago. still sad
Bsck in the day if i wanted to learn about punk i had to tape this and watch it on VHS and be on the lookout for any punk related material on MTV or VH1(which i knew wasnt the whole picture anyway). Kids thank your youtube and your internet everyday!
What, no Suicidal Tendencies? My favorite band from Venice beach and perfect SF bike messenger music for sure. Fear! DK/BF loved it all. But my first love of punk came from the Dead Boyz 1978. Stiv Bators, guitarist Cheetah Chrome, rhythm guitarist Jimmy Zero, bassist Jeff Magnum, and drummer Johnny Blitz. This band meant everything to me and my buddy. Only AC/DC(Bon Scott) and Black Sabbath are in this select group.
"We Could Blow This Place Apart If We Wanted To"!!!! & The Ramones Did Rip The Roof Off & Cracked The Sidewalks in Hollywood & Los Angeles @ every concert they performed back in the day! The last time I saw The Ramones Live was @ The Hollywood Palladium before they broke up & ended their musical legacy & changed our world forever!!!!
The hippies had more in common with punk than they want to admit. U.S.-New wave, U.K.-Punk. The New York Dolls were brilliant. Johnny Thunders was, and still is, a treasure. LAMF. X
THE PUNK DAYS WERE GREAT THE FASHION AND MOHICANS HAIR STYLE'S GOOD MUSIC THE SEX PISTOLS NEW YORK DOLL'S AND THE EXPLOITED ANTI PASTI UK SUBS THE RAMONE'S THE CLASH AND COURSE IGGY POP AND THE STOOGES ETC SOME GREAT PUNK BAND'S AND LOADS MORE PUNK MUSIC JUST FULL ON RAW LOUD AND FULL OF ENERGY ALSO THE 70s WERE THE BEST PUNK BANDS CAME FROM GOOD TIMES AND GOOD MEMORY'S
Cool Docu but how the hell did WENDY-O AND THE PLASMATICS get skipped over? She earned her red wings inside punk that out-stepped Blondie by a long shot. It would have also been nice had they covered a different branch off of the punk music, which was Gothic punk (before it became relabeled as Gothic Rock) With groups like, Skinny Puppy, Alien Sex Fiends, Christian Death, Swans, then expanded with Goth legends like Sisters of Mercy and Bauhaus. And one last recognition that should have been handed out, so much credit is given to Nirvana for changing the music scene when it was actually Nine Inch Nails that turned the mainstream rock scene around on its ears and into the direction that gave bands like Nirvana a door to walk thru. So many other bands deserved mention in this just as I am sure there are others I've havent mentioned above (otherwise I'd be here all night hahah).
NIN did record earlier than Nevermind (although I don't think earlier than Bleach), but I never saw a video by them, or hear a song by them, prior to "teen spirit" breaking through. And I was a 16 year old punk/Janes Addiction fan by '91. Good call on Wendy O.... I was buying stuff like Coup d'etat and Maggots on Vinyl in the late 80s. (edit) I guess that's not true. I would have seen Down in it on 120 minutes. But mostly I knew them as the band on the first Lolapollooza that I knew the least about, lol.
pso777atlantika I saw Wendy O on a flight from Boston to NY or the other way around (who remembers) she was wearing nothing but a cellphone bra black stilettos and a g string 😂😂😂
When I first heard Nirvana and saw them I thought, cool, punk is back, but then I was told, they're not punk they're grunge. Well, they looked and sounded like punk to me. And all their influences were punk. Hearing Mike Ness say the same thing and Dave Grohl's explanation I think I can say I was right. And I always thought of Green Day as poser punk and hearing Lee Ronaldo out and out say they're not punk and Billy Joe Armstrong whining about being called out on being posers was nice. I wish there would be a new crop of good punk inspired music. I mean the last thing that was even close was the garage rock of the early 2000s and that didn't last long.
Steve Carey this is how it is: Nirvana was in their own eyes punkrock. But Cobain loved to take down the treble & base, in that sound, and often with simplicity (though Bleach was far from simple, Nevermind, In Utero, Incesgicide, etc were, except for a dozens of songs) Plus this 'out of tune' raw, low sound, which would become known as 'grunge', also the switch between soft, deep often dark, sound/singing, to hard outbursts of music or screams etc. Thats what became 'grunge'. Contrary to Punk. But without Punk, grunge wouldnt have seen the light. It also didnt last long. Im glad we got the white stripes (which were grungelike but not totally) and this brasilian band "NiiL" and their song " I just want to sleep" is almost like nirvana, lot of people thought it was an unreleased nirvana song (its even uploaded under "Nirvana") I hope Grunge will have a comeback. Because the time is ripe for it.
Well, to put it another way, if Nirvana came out anywhere between 1977 and 1985 they would have been considered punk. But by 1991 the punk label had pretty much run it's course so calling them punk would have made their music appear retro or dated to the average person so they got lumped into grunge. Actually they fit in both categories. Some people confuse hardcore punk with punk when actually it is a subgenre of punk. If you listen to punk from the late 70s it is all over the map. Basically it had to be guitar driven and be somewhat fast but iconic punk bands like the Damned, the Clash (apart from their first album), the Stranglers, Generation X, Stiff Little Fingers, the Dickies, the Minutemen etc., are definitely not hardcore punk. Nirvana's sound, image, and influences fit well with this bunch. But regardless, I agree that it would be nice to have grunge, punk, garage, or any guitar driven music make a comeback (apart from metal or NuMetal which both bore and annoy me). Oh and thanks for the tip on NiiL. I wasn't aware of them so I'll definitely check them out.. and I even lived in Brazil for a short time.
Kurt was Punk in the soul, in life, and in attitude. Not to mention he didn't wash his hairs for months in a row. If this isn't Punk then what? :P Jokes aside, Nirvana were Punk, in their own way. "Grunge" is a marketing term created to commercially separated them by older bands. Nirvana were Punk.
the best punk band of the last 25 years is Leatherface. IMO Many think this is their masterpiece but ALL their 10 albums are terrific. I left the comment at the top of the upload ruclips.net/video/deUYdveJziI/видео.html
This really just rolls through proto punk and then stops right when punk starts with the Ramones. That's about what you could expect with Legs McNeil and Lou Reed involved though.
The pistols has to be one of the best rock stories of all times a punk rockers dream I love them it's funny because I'm an old metal head from way back and I hated them back then lol I had zero understanding of why it was so popular not being able to play well lol my opinion has totally changed they created something totally different then anything of that time and it was aggressive with a slow tempo I love it
Disappointing that there was no mention of Crass. No history of punk can be complete without them, they were the first band to not just play it but also to live by it.
I love both VU and The Beatles, so I have to say, in 1967 The Beatles already evolved to recording Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. I Wanna Hold Your Hand was a 1964 single.
Wish I could have grown up at the time and place, where most of these bands played at "The Nest" in Cali..Punk documentaries are so fun and hardcore, plus reminds me of how I felt in the late 80's-early 90's, as a young adolescent doing the things that just didn't fit the program..If people hated it, then I wanted to be it..The Punk Scene was no less of a family then I had at home..I once had 3 complete strangers I had met in Seattle, that put their money together to buy me a bus ticket back to Pennsylvania..We struggle to find that kind of heart in people to this day..
if i didnt think i had anything new to bring to the table, i wouldnt bother. but i think dressing like myself and making the music that i want to is better than conforming to these fucking computer generated normies. sorry im still genuine. if you knew me, maybe youd understand my individuality.
When i was a kid always felt more connection with metal, Maiden, Slayer, Sepultura, etc... but now with 20 years i feel more connected with punk really, specially with The Ramones one of my favorite bands when i was a kid
I was watching this thinking- 'That voice sounds familiar. I wonder who is narrating this?' at 2:40, as soon as he mentioned The Velvets, I went 'Oh yeah...'.
For some people Punk was a social thing and for other people a musical thing. I was in a punk band in Chicago in 1977 because I liked the music but I, a union field construction boilermaker and former West Side street corner greaser, had contempt for the jag offs of the social scene.
Im 15 and im into punk and i love how no guy messed with punk girls and i love that how strong they were and im like that but guys this days dont like me cause im punk and act like this girls cause im too crazy and wild
stay true to yourself Moonlight Queen and find the people that will honour you; avoid the others. one or two friends who honour you is better than world-wide approval. in fact world-wide approval is the guarantee that you're doing it all wrong..x
How could they completely ignore the early Danzig era. They were perhaps so not politically correct that the liberal VH-1 made a point of not mentioning them.
@@TFMB Yea it's "The Liberals ". Jesus Christ get a grip loser. I bet if you stubbed your toe you would be crying for the next few days about Liberals and MSM.
PUNK WILL LIVE FOREVER!!! I went to see the descendants a month ago in Pomona show was AMAZING! Saw Adolescents in Long Beach a few weeks back and that whole place was CRAZY!!! and I’m doing T.S.O.L Next weekend in Santa Ana!! PUNK IS ALIVE AND WELL IN 2023!
Glad you had a good time!!! I hate myself for missing ALL at Shitty Gardens (NJ) where Milo filled in. I’m in SoCal now and trying to catch the old bands again! Seeing Skinny Puppy for their Farewell Tour-so I’m pumped for that but you must have seen a helluva show!!!
The sad thing is the best years of punk was barely covered. 82 to 90. There is literally thousands of great underground punk and hardcore from this time. If you don't like punk you just haven't heard your favorite band yet. Oh by the way your current favorite band sucks!
Ok, so I'm halfway through and I'm wondering how you do a special on the history of punk that doesn't mention The Saints. They were one of the first (their first album "I'm Stranded" came out in February '77). I know they were far from the biggest or best known, but the Ramones knew who they were and were big fans. Sometimes I wonder if the people who make these documentaries are aware that there is a world outside of North America and English-speaking Europe.
Because the majority of the punk movement was uk/us based. I guarantee you if there was an updated documentary that divulges into the explosion of great punk that the au has been pumping out, the saints would be without a doubt brought into the conversation.
Let’s face it, the true fact of the matter is,there was the saint’s and then there was bands that sounded like the saint’s, the sex pistols had their own image and they had the saints music.
I realized why this was so familiar, I taped it when it came on the first time! Probably one of the many tapes I lost to a worn out vcr rewinding , it eventually got eaten up.
At 34:00 the narrator mentions something about skinheads bringing racism and neo-nazism into punk. There is a HUGE misconception about what true "skinhead" is. It is not what we think of here in the U.S. as being nazis and hardcore Oi/thrash/punk. The true roots of skinhead began in the mid to late 60s with the mass immigration of Jamaicans to the U.K. Jamaican Rude Boys and working class street kids in England who were basically at the tail end of being mods are the ones who started true skinhead culture. They were called skinheads because they had very short, cropped haircuts which was very different from the look of the times with long haired hippies. Ska and reggae was the flavor and choice of music, along with some American soul and R&B. There is a great documentary by Don Letts on the subject that I think everyone should watch. Sure the National Front in England recruited racist skinheads but that is not what true skinhead is and people now ONLY associated skinheads with neo-nazis and it couldnt be more wrong.
There were skinheads pushing people about and punching people at most punk gigs i went to 1978-80. They had no music of their own went to punk gigs to single out weaker people that they could enjoy beating. I think the right wing thing came came to them later. Sham 69 gigs were particularly bad.
Who was the idiot that said the Velvet Underground came onto the scene the same time the Beatles released l want to hold your hand? The Beatles had already written & released albums that changed everything recording wise before the Velvet Underground was even an idea.
I feel they could have talked about punks influence on metal like the rise of thrash and I guess metal core (mainly early stuff) or how the mc5 influenced moterhead
Cranky Jay Sure it does. Discharge have more in common with Hellhammer than they do with The Clash. As a metalhead, I praise The League and GBH as much as Exodus and Witchfinder General.
I miss when VH1 and MTV actually had cool music-related content
I hear you. Must be going on about 30 years now. But, we do have the internet now, so we can pretty much watch what we want, when we want.
Look up AxesTV
@@svfantom7776 i like that we can see more unedited videos &interviews from the past... Ya know? Picking apart the mashups &really having an opportunity to hear what the musicains were trying to say, not just what mtv, vh1, the media wants you to hear. Alot of interviews with the bigger talents was scripted tho soo nobody wants to hear more of that anywayz me thinks
@@Therealsidjones we get AXIS TV
AWESOME most of the time
now its ridiculousness, teen mom & catfish 😂
I’m so lucky that I got to see the Ramones, the Clash and Black Flag.
That’s awesome 😵
You lucky fucking bastard! Cheers man!
,,,seen all 3 too,,,
@@exxumma Me as well. Several more in fact.
@@j7dharma like?
I remember when I was little & going through my dad’s cassette tapes. Came across The Exploited & Descendants. Ended up showing my friends & we all fell in love with the music. Good times.
Same experience with slayer tapes in my uncle's collection.
Listening to your posts makes me feel old... :(
lolz
Hail to the CBGB . Thanks for everything.
What about Gildersleeves?
Took a full minute before I realized that Lou Reed was narrating Rest in Peace
+Enzo Ferrari Lou Reed!!!
+Enzo Ferrari Yes your right..my mistake.
Lou Reed intoning Heroin is transcendent.
*@Joshua Stephens* _ Took me just one minute to realize.....this narrator ..a bloke trying to sound New York.....
Reed was never so hard pressed to cooperate on a cliché venture like this...
especially since _"25 Years Of Punk"_ is an anachronism in itself..... Hardly a topic which Reed around 2000 would be interested in.....
Amazing
Hippies had died a death years before...............
Punk was actually a rebellion against prog.rock, corporations, 7 minute guitar solos and everybody dressing the same.
And disco!
Jackboot Shurek - Yeah...........and Disco! And Denim, And Flares!
Guy Lawrance although I see their ideas against corporate rock, I think there would be a cool and unique sound if you mixed them together
And ended dressing the same, dancing the same :p
@@Farvaman423 that's how you get Blink 182
Stiff little fingers, a punk band that actually had reason to be pissed, Northern Ireland in the 70s was not fun
They are amaazing. Saw them live in the fall. I’d even say better than The Clash.
iam big fan of Ramones they were kings of two minutes classics
I wasn't a punk, but I did go to an Iggy Pop show once, he was greeted with a shower of spit, the odd beer bottle, and he had his member out for half the concert and my ears rang for about a week quite a spectacle. There was a lot of punk I didn't care for but it helped bring rock out if it's stagnation and really loved the New Wave movement it spawned, for that I am greatful to punk
By member you mean his penis?
was this in the UK?
New Wave/Post-punk is fantastic. Those bands are the true heirs of the early 70's prog rock scene, in the sense that they were musically creative, experimental, fearless.
1:30 “Toto, Kansas, Foreigner, all that crap.” LMAO I love Joey! RIP to all of the original Ramones who were taken from us... Joey, DeeDee, Johnny and Tommy... gone but NEVER forgotten!!!!
@Dirk Diggler better at what? Music. Yeah probably. But not legacy. And influence.
You mean in making technical music, maybe, but Ramones stuff came from the soul.
It’s crazy he would talk crap about those bands for being soft yet him and the rest of the band were influenced by Phil specter and all the bubblegum pop he produced in the 50’s especially the girl groups
I'd take Toto and Kansas over that soft college hippie bullshit Joey Ramone was doing when he took over the Ramones in the 80's.
He calls Kansas 'crap'. Braindead fk from NYC
Only because I've seen every punk documentary on RUclips, I had to do about half an hour of searching before I found one I hadn't seen. Glad I found this
Thanks for stopping by, stay tuned!!
I remember catching this on VH1 a while back.. I taped it actually, but that tape is long since missing or else I would have converted it and uploaded it.
If you've seen so many can you suggest some please?
Did you see the documentary “Punks Not Dead” it’s great
Buzzcocks, first show I went to.. 1993. Only a few people showed up since they were unknown where I lived at that time. Was awesome. 2nd show was the dead milkmen, and the drummer gave me his shoes.. good times. Bad shoes.
by 93 they were has beens.
So sayeth Allen Schmitz: the never was.
Great story!
D1agram
Quite a story
Saw them play in Tijuana with Mike Joyce the drummer from the Smiths sitting in 😀
Damn VH1 used to be great it's heartbreaking to see what it's become.
yea well theyre owned by the same company that owns Mtv so go figure lol
@@MaxWhiteArabiLouisiana BET still plays music videos VH1 doesn't.
"Sex Pistols were a cool band, the Clash were a great band, a real band."
-Joey Ramone
That is what history will say.
And the Damned were the best.
That is what history will say
Sex pistols part of this documentry is the most interesting part imo.
And you are trying to be witty on RUclips. Who did it better? Where's your band?
MICHAEL APPLE You stole that line from John Lydon from the Conan O'brien interview.
The Sex Pistols are my favorite
I know nothing if punk and I'm a black dude that loves jazz and 90s esc. Rap. This documentary was NOT a waste of my time.
have you here of the black punk bands Bad brains and pure hell
+Enzo Ferrari there's always been abit of punk rock in rap since the 80's a lot of Hip-hop bands sampled Ramones records and dead boys records but I could never see 50 cent ever becoming a punk rocker but I could see Kanye West labeled as a punk rocker or a electro punk artist that is simular to alen Vega
Jason Bouskill en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(protopunk_band)
Rosida Andriyana
Hardcore is short for...wait for it....
Hardcore punk
beasties boys hardcore albums were good fav song is brand new check it out
This is the third time I've watched this dedication to punk music. Thanks so much for posting it. It's the most captivating, fascinating and brilliant video on RUclips!!! More please!!
VH1 actually had some interesting documentaries back in the day.
and just so you know, Iggy is the real "motor city madman"
@Randall Layman I saw that movie, I was just bitching about Ted Nugent.
I'm 53 and I still wear my ramones t-shirt with pride they were unique and special 😊
This needs a HD remaster!
In this documentary I miss the mod bands like The Kinks, The Who and Small faces who were not Punk bands, but contributed a lot to the 'image' of Punk. I mean My Generation is a Punk song.
DeKleikop well said
So is Kick out the Jams by the MC5
Teenage Rampage by Sweet.. the lyrics are punk even before punk
My Generation is very punk rock
Helter Skelter by the Beatles that shit is punk
Really impressed with this doc, I gotta say. I feared you were just gonna skip from the Pistols to grunge, but you did a great job of describing the 80s scenes, and even gave a mention to my faves, Hüsker Dü. Great job, man.
Yah, a 'mention' is all you get! American Hardcore gives them much more..
Do you know what Husker Du song is played for like 5 seconds? I've been trying to find it.
Hüsker Dü = The Beatles of alternative rock.
2 exceptional songwriters, extremely prolific in 4-year span (1 EP, 5 LP's including 2 doubles) and then disappear never to reunite.
Yeah, Husker Du came and went and wasted nobodies time....
Husker Du did so much in such a brief period of time. It's mad because I could easily see Husker Du having been able to stretch their discography across like 15 whole years. Somehow, they did all that in only 4.
Polite J-F, the beatles couldn't make a Carl Perkins song to save their lives.............FACT./ Fuck you for bringing this up. Have you some DINOSAUR JR. You fucking CHARLATAN..........ruclips.net/video/JXkN3nJyWEA/видео.html
The 'NEWS' for all you Kids are: The DAMNED were the first Band to release a Single ( New Rose ) and a LP ( Damned, Damned, Damned ) in the Uk in 1976. The lame Pistols came out with their 'Never mind the Bollocks...' in 1978. At this time the RAMONES got out their 3rd record.
AND: When the Residues of the Pistols released a record with the name 'The great Rock'n'Roll Swindle, an american Band called the GERMS put out the very first Hardcore Record called ( GI ).
And always rember: In Hardcore noone can hold the candle to the BAD BRAINS!
Sex pistols fuckin rocks
Love The Damned. Saw them many times. Dave Vanian kept telling me he really loved my coat. I think he was hoping I'd give it to him. I didn't. I worked hard making that damn coat lol. Captain Sensible always was playing hip hop backstage ironically. I at least think it was supposed to be ironic. He was a hilariously funny guy. This was all in the late nineties, mind you. The chick from Sisters Of Mercy was in the band at the time, she was dating Vanian. Cool meeting her too.
Agreed The Damned are the bomb
The Damned, the absolute greatest! Criminally under recognised to the detriment of every punk, goth, new wave fan out there who hasn't had the pleasure of hearing them (myself included until more recently in my life)
The Cramps are missing from this.
And the rock and roll hall of fame sadly as well :c
The Cramps were more rockabilly (if played by the Addams family) than punk.
@@turkeybowlwinkle4440 damn who made you the punk police?
I guess you just did.
Turkey Bowlwinkle Hahaha! Good retort. I saw The Cramps at a club here in Seattle in the mid 80s - fantastic show! And I agree. Kinda psychobilly & kinda cow punk, not straight punk punks.
this video deserves a higher resolution from somewhere. Thanks for posting this
Mainstream music in 2018 is shit. Punk rock needs to come back
It's still here- always will be. You gotta take the effort to find it...
@@Mr3andrew3 Ha, true. And punk wasn't usually mainstream...Derek, doesn't know whats up.
Look up Post Punk Revival.
It’s even worse in 2019
R. A. What do you mean
I'm a Brit and I agree that punk came from the US, but was vastly improved on by the Brits.
The Brits added to it with their own spin
and made it a fashion statement.
To be honest, in the early to mid 70’s you guys already had a vibrant pub rock underground that was healthier than anything we had at that time. The CBGB scene might’ve given the scene a new title and the Ramones might’ve influenced a sound but the English scene was well underway. Nothing beats The Pink Fairies and Dr Feelgood.
It always gets on my nerves that the press ignores the early days of the British Underground.
Well thank god that's all over. Now the record labels tell you which chords to play and nobody has to think. Look pretty and have a dance routine, you are gold.
No not anymore, you can make you're own recored now adays pop it on the net.. Recored lables are dying..
Rickey Ryan Spot on. It would be a great situation for rock to come back strong in the mainstream. I just don't understand why rock is so dead right now. It honestly feels like rock bands will never be back again.
@@sub_rosa2525 Nothing left to rebel against.
"It's a fascinating place, I must say."
I shot beer out of my nose...😂
gawd what´s all this cheesy shit on here
That was hilarious in a cheezey silverspoon snobbery voice
Johnny Thunders - Chatterbox was the real beginning. 👌😎
Ramones record their debut album for a mere $6000, adjusted for inflation that's more than $25,000 today. In 2 days.
I would have recorded it for $600 lol
Cosmic Soup Recording that’s what nirvana did with bleach
@@ucopiedyibo1959 exactly!
25 grand is quite a lot nowadays for recording
Even though Sex Pistols disbanded with only 1 album, the album is one of the most influential debut album in music industry. What most people forget is that it's not only the songs/album but their Image, fashion and hairstyles has also been an important influence on the punk image. Now when you listen to the record the songs doesn't sound boring or dated instead it still sounds fresh and powerful with full of raw energy, aggression and power and Johnny Rotten's sneering delivery and "half-singing" is what made this album a game changer!
The Sex Pistols; for good and better and for better and worse, are THE nexus point of both Pop and Underground culture!!!!!!
Yeah but don’t forget they stole more then a few tricks fashion and music from the gods….Ramones
@@Scotty-P gawd stick to bimbos
really they just stole their image from Richard Hell
@@jaguaron007 I love both bands and I hear almost no Ramones influences in the Pistols lone studio album proper. Perhaps in their cover of "Substitute" by The Who (which Da Bruddahs later also covered) or their demo version of "Roadrunner" by Modern Lovers, but in going down the track list of Never MInd The Bollocks I'm just not picking up any Ramones vibe or sound...
Punk music died very shortly after it was born . It was never meant to become part of the institution.
What it did was to empower people with the belief that they had the right to express themselves.
This spirit lives on and many young punks of the day are equally responsible for liberating many of today’s generation.
glad to read words from someone who knows what they're talking about,,,punk was the shortest musical style ever,,,
@@exxumma devils advocate here
Punk has never died it in hiding
Something like this can never truly die
I will listen and be inspired and may not be around as much
true believers will believe it is still lives
@@DJflyingtaco ,,,true,,,it hid in certain cities, certain 'hoods,,,splintering rather than hiding,,,will never truly die,,,
I got into punk after the British Metal invasion, hung out at a local punk club started in 1982. Very loud, walls painted black with graffiti , slam dancing, 50 cent beers & byob, whiskey. Always stood in front of stage, often slam dancing. Music so loud , ears ringing for days. It was hard to know or get a hold of any records. A friends brothers used to go to NY to get as many underground records and bring them back so we all could listen. Mostly a lot of local punk bands played,so many of them. I don’t remember names & of course no one got signed. But what a statement punk made for the times we were in. To ruffle the feathers of society and scream in their face, “we are not like you and don’t fall for all the bullshit you & the establishment is trying to tell us to be”. They’re all puppet sell outs. I still feel the same, so I am still very punk in my thoughts, actions &ways. I reject phones & those zombie fucking puppets, easily manipulated by the marketing, mind control from the people who are so rich, yet still want not only all your money, but your soul too. DANCE PUPPETS DANCE. And go wait in line for the new iPhone! Puppet Generation, so brainwashed and annoying! Don’t you hold up a phone camera in front of my face when I’m trying to watch the show, cause I will swat it across the room and not give a fuck!
Couldn't agree with you more. It's a crying shame to see how the over saturation of technology has totally brainwashed and ruined the youth of today.
@@romeoantonio952 right, and not just youth, but all levels of society...
@@JustJeph33 You're right, unfortunately. More and more I'm thinking that generation x may go down as the last purely human generation ever. Yes, we had technology but we weren't TOTALLY ADDICTED TO IT 24/7!! I thank the lucky stars I grew up when I did (born in 1974).
@@romeoantonio952 Apple's making I peopleoids
Many of my favorite childhood bands on this episode 😍🙏😁
The world needs something akin to punk to happen again. There's lots of good stuff out there, especially in the metal scene, and stuff like the retro-synth movement, that I personally enjoy. But there's nothing really out there in the mainstream to blow it all apart and blow away all of the bull. Maybe one day, after the apocalypse or whatever, something real will emerge and shake it up like punk did. I don't know. It needs to be dangerous and actually scare people.
hip hop is the new punk
verderosa the me veneration of hip hop is the modern punk
Devin / Neon Shark rap rn is the closest thing to punk we have but a lot of it is garbage. Just like you could say back in the 70s and early 80s people would shit on punk
straight edge scene is really popular, at least it was a bit ago. but yeah it is definitely heavier metal sounding
Hip Hop is over 30 years old and boring.
MAD THEY DIDNT TALK ABOUT THE CRAMPS
Although the cramps were included in the punk rock scene they really were not upon they were psychobilly
This is one of the best music films ever! Interviews are like bullet points and then it's all about the bands. A finely curated assault from the best bands ever. One thing. I had instant love for Nirvana. There was nothing like them and nothing still. Nirvana is not a punk band. Nirvana is Nirvana. Saw their very last concert in Chicago. still sad
Bsck in the day if i wanted to learn about punk i had to tape this and watch it on VHS and be on the lookout for any punk related material on MTV or VH1(which i knew wasnt the whole picture anyway). Kids thank your youtube and your internet everyday!
What, no Suicidal Tendencies? My favorite band from Venice beach and perfect SF bike messenger music for sure. Fear! DK/BF loved it all. But my first love of punk came from the Dead Boyz 1978. Stiv Bators, guitarist Cheetah Chrome, rhythm guitarist Jimmy Zero, bassist Jeff Magnum, and drummer Johnny Blitz. This band meant everything to me and my buddy. Only AC/DC(Bon Scott) and Black Sabbath are in this select group.
that was good.... seriously, thanks for sharing!
Minor Threat, Bad Brains, and the rest of DC would like a word.
"We Could Blow This Place Apart If We Wanted To"!!!! & The Ramones Did Rip The Roof Off & Cracked The Sidewalks in Hollywood & Los Angeles @ every concert they performed back in the day! The last time I saw The Ramones Live was @ The Hollywood Palladium before they broke up & ended their musical legacy & changed our world forever!!!!
I am an original punk rocker, I am 61 n0w and born in 1957= work it ou
The hippies had more in common with punk than they want to admit. U.S.-New wave, U.K.-Punk. The New York Dolls were brilliant. Johnny Thunders was, and still is, a treasure. LAMF. X
The original, 'yippies' certainly were politically aligned.
I love that quote "we made bad hippies we liked cheese burgers and tv" also I saw that split second of talking heads dont think I dident see it
THE PUNK DAYS WERE GREAT THE FASHION AND MOHICANS HAIR STYLE'S GOOD MUSIC THE SEX PISTOLS NEW YORK DOLL'S AND THE EXPLOITED ANTI PASTI UK SUBS THE RAMONE'S THE CLASH AND COURSE IGGY POP AND THE STOOGES ETC SOME GREAT PUNK BAND'S AND LOADS MORE PUNK MUSIC JUST FULL ON RAW LOUD AND FULL OF ENERGY ALSO THE 70s WERE THE BEST PUNK BANDS CAME FROM GOOD TIMES AND GOOD MEMORY'S
Negative approach from Detroit the real deal!
The spirit of punk and intellectual observation of society lives on.
Bad brains...black punk rockers
Cmon bruh
Punk has no race everyone is punk if they truly feel hated and angry
This is like a grade 6 text book version of history; a slight nod to reality but mostly hand picked quotes to make a popular thesis. Bullocks!
Punk is also 43 years old and this is a 42 minute long show. They were always going to leave a lot of stuff out.
Cool Docu but how the hell did WENDY-O AND THE PLASMATICS get skipped over? She earned her red wings inside punk that out-stepped Blondie by a long shot.
It would have also been nice had they covered a different branch off of the punk music, which was Gothic punk (before it became relabeled as Gothic Rock) With groups like, Skinny Puppy, Alien Sex Fiends, Christian Death, Swans, then expanded with Goth legends like Sisters of Mercy and Bauhaus.
And one last recognition that should have been handed out, so much credit is given to Nirvana for changing the music scene when it was actually Nine Inch Nails that turned the mainstream rock scene around on its ears and into the direction that gave bands like Nirvana a door to walk thru.
So many other bands deserved mention in this just as I am sure there are others I've havent mentioned above (otherwise I'd be here all night hahah).
NIN did record earlier than Nevermind (although I don't think earlier than Bleach), but I never saw a video by them, or hear a song by them, prior to "teen spirit" breaking through. And I was a 16 year old punk/Janes Addiction fan by '91. Good call on Wendy O.... I was buying stuff like Coup d'etat and Maggots on Vinyl in the late 80s. (edit) I guess that's not true. I would have seen Down in it on 120 minutes. But mostly I knew them as the band on the first Lolapollooza that I knew the least about, lol.
pso777atlantika I saw Wendy O on a flight from Boston to NY or the other way around (who remembers) she was wearing nothing but a cellphone bra black stilettos and a g string 😂😂😂
Absolutely
Greetings from Philippines, "Vive Le Punkrock!"... :-)
punk loveX!! from seattle!
When I first heard Nirvana and saw them I thought, cool, punk is back, but then I was told, they're not punk they're grunge. Well, they looked and sounded like punk to me. And all their influences were punk. Hearing Mike Ness say the same thing and Dave Grohl's explanation I think I can say I was right. And I always thought of Green Day as poser punk and hearing Lee Ronaldo out and out say they're not punk and Billy Joe Armstrong whining about being called out on being posers was nice. I wish there would be a new crop of good punk inspired music. I mean the last thing that was even close was the garage rock of the early 2000s and that didn't last long.
Steve Carey this is how it is:
Nirvana was in their own eyes punkrock. But Cobain loved to take down the treble & base, in that sound, and often with simplicity (though Bleach was far from simple, Nevermind, In Utero, Incesgicide, etc were, except for a dozens of songs)
Plus this 'out of tune' raw, low sound, which would become known as 'grunge', also the switch between soft, deep often dark, sound/singing, to hard outbursts of music or screams etc.
Thats what became 'grunge'.
Contrary to Punk.
But without Punk, grunge wouldnt have seen the light.
It also didnt last long. Im glad we got the white stripes (which were grungelike but not totally) and this brasilian band "NiiL" and their song " I just want to sleep" is almost like nirvana, lot of people thought it was an unreleased nirvana song (its even uploaded under "Nirvana")
I hope Grunge will have a comeback. Because the time is ripe for it.
Well, to put it another way, if Nirvana came out anywhere between 1977 and 1985 they would have been considered punk. But by 1991 the punk label had pretty much run it's course so calling them punk would have made their music appear retro or dated to the average person so they got lumped into grunge. Actually they fit in both categories. Some people confuse hardcore punk with punk when actually it is a subgenre of punk. If you listen to punk from the late 70s it is all over the map. Basically it had to be guitar driven and be somewhat fast but iconic punk bands like the Damned, the Clash (apart from their first album), the Stranglers, Generation X, Stiff Little Fingers, the Dickies, the Minutemen etc., are definitely not hardcore punk. Nirvana's sound, image, and influences fit well with this bunch. But regardless, I agree that it would be nice to have grunge, punk, garage, or any guitar driven music make a comeback (apart from metal or NuMetal which both bore and annoy me). Oh and thanks for the tip on NiiL. I wasn't aware of them so I'll definitely check them out.. and I even lived in Brazil for a short time.
Kurt was Punk in the soul, in life, and in attitude. Not to mention he didn't wash his hairs for months in a row. If this isn't Punk then what? :P
Jokes aside, Nirvana were Punk, in their own way. "Grunge" is a marketing term created to commercially separated them by older bands.
Nirvana were Punk.
the best punk band of the last 25 years is Leatherface. IMO Many think this is their masterpiece but ALL their 10 albums are terrific. I left the comment at the top of the upload
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green day must of listened to BAD RELIGION when they were in grade school cause thats what they sounded like only wimpy radio friendly.
Bring punk again! 😭
No G.B.H, Misfits, Global Threat or Cramps? The hell is wrong with you guys
Also Descendents, X-Ray Spex, Gang of Four, Bad Religion. a lot of others I'm sure I'm forgetting...
...Mission of Burma, Dramarama.
Operation Ivy
I know this is a lame vh1 program ,but the scene I was most familiar with was LA. and the masque. X,skulls ,screamers ,germs etc.
was at the masque opening nite,,,how about black flag,,,circle jerks,,real punk
"Los Saicos" were doing punk in 1960, before the velvet underground and yet there is no mention of them.
man, you're right!
Theyre not punk and didnt influence any punk bands. They Just some surfin bird sound alike
Actually, they are...
They're an old garage rock band. Not really punk
Wow...How Did I Miss This on VH1 (Workin Too Damm Hard I Guess) Thanx a Mil for The Upload :) (y)
Lou reed narrating
Joe Rodriguez SHIT I WAS WONDERING WHO IT WAS
That's who I thought, thanks for confirming.
i thought it was a guy trying to sounds like Lou
Damn that's pretty rad. I didn't notice. I actually just read the book Anthony D'Curtis wrote about him.
Social media in my time was the punk band shirts kids wore to school.
This really just rolls through proto punk and then stops right when punk starts with the Ramones. That's about what you could expect with Legs McNeil and Lou Reed involved though.
The pistols has to be one of the best rock stories of all times a punk rockers dream I love them it's funny because I'm an old metal head from way back and I hated them back then lol I had zero understanding of why it was so popular not being able to play well lol my opinion has totally changed they created something totally different then anything of that time and it was aggressive with a slow tempo I love it
the dolls couldn't play? thunders ripped on guitar idk they play great to me
YES, AMEN
He cared so much he didn't care at all.
My youth...18 year old ART SCHOOL student and working at PEARL PAINT by day and PUNK ROCK fan by night!!!
Shows and mention green day who literally add nothing new to the "punk" scene but doesn't acknowledge or mention the misfits...smfh
@@lt7505 holy fuck! You're Right...
@@whereswesker nvm they're talking abt it now Lmao just late. They only said like 30 seconds about them wtf
@@lt7505 it's been 9 months so I literally don't remember a single shit from the video lmao
I'm at 28:38 presently and still no mention of Husker Du :-/
31:54 nevermind.
love the mention of Patti smith, people seem to forget about her in conversations about punk
Disappointing that there was no mention of Crass. No history of punk can be complete without them, they were the first band to not just play it but also to live by it.
the narrator's voice is the biggest understatement in this doc. Especially when he talks about VU.
The narrator is Lou Reed
"I was a punk before you were a punk!" - The Tubes
I love both VU and The Beatles, so I have to say, in 1967 The Beatles already evolved to recording Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. I Wanna Hold Your Hand was a 1964 single.
I know right? I hope someone was fired for that blunder.
The stooges are pure raw rock mAn
Wish I could have grown up at the time and place, where most of these bands played at "The Nest" in Cali..Punk documentaries are so fun and hardcore, plus reminds me of how I felt in the late 80's-early 90's, as a young adolescent doing the things that just didn't fit the program..If people hated it, then I wanted to be it..The Punk Scene was no less of a family then I had at home..I once had 3 complete strangers I had met in Seattle, that put their money together to buy me a bus ticket back to Pennsylvania..We struggle to find that kind of heart in people to this day..
when they start talking about punk magazine, i was like.....THATS LOU REEEEEEDD
why are you styled like how we grew up you fucking lameass culture vulture
if i didnt think i had anything new to bring to the table, i wouldnt bother. but i think dressing like myself and making the music that i want to is better than conforming to these fucking computer generated normies. sorry im still genuine. if you knew me, maybe youd understand my individuality.
When i was a kid always felt more connection with metal, Maiden, Slayer, Sepultura, etc... but now with 20 years i feel more connected with punk really, specially with The Ramones one of my favorite bands when i was a kid
I was watching this thinking- 'That voice sounds familiar. I wonder who is narrating this?' at 2:40, as soon as he mentioned The Velvets, I went 'Oh yeah...'.
Ey man love your videos 😃
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Tales thanks for pointing that out I knew the voice but couldn't place Nobody like uncle Lou RIP
Duh!!
@@trevorbarre5616 duh what
For some people Punk was a social thing and for other people a musical thing. I was in a punk band in Chicago in 1977 because I liked the music but I, a union field construction boilermaker and former West Side street corner greaser, had contempt for the jag offs of the social scene.
I love punk but I also love hippie music....pretty 😎
ughhh i luv’d these as a kid i was like 😳 these are the coolest ppl i have ever seen 🧑🎤🧑🏻🎤👨🏽🎤👩🏿🎤👨🏻🎤
Im 15 and im into punk and i love how no guy messed with punk girls and i love that how strong they were and im like that but guys this days dont like me cause im punk and act like this girls cause im too crazy and wild
stay true to yourself Moonlight Queen and find the people that will honour you; avoid the others. one or two friends who honour you is better than world-wide approval. in fact world-wide approval is the guarantee that you're doing it all wrong..x
It’s really nice to see a documentary where I could name all the artists before they’re named
Trends die..punkrock is forever!!
Lou Reed is a perfect narrator for a doc like this.
omg here come the internet savvy punk experts...
I don't love bands for their anonymity, I love them for their excellent music.
No Misfits? smh
Ben Asslick
It's sad, but alot of peoplle won't look past the horror punk shit...
How could they completely ignore the early Danzig era. They were perhaps so not politically correct that the liberal VH-1 made a point of not mentioning them.
The Fabulous Master Bats
You can say that again....
But thank God we don't follow mainstream junk
here Here! I concur!
@@TFMB Yea it's "The Liberals ". Jesus Christ get a grip loser. I bet if you stubbed your toe you would be crying for the next few days about Liberals and MSM.
I got into the ramones through listening to 60s garage bands like the seeds sonics and all the nuggets stuff great stuff 😊
PUNK WILL LIVE FOREVER!!! I went to see the descendants a month ago in Pomona show was AMAZING! Saw Adolescents in Long Beach a few weeks back and that whole place was CRAZY!!! and I’m doing T.S.O.L Next weekend in Santa Ana!! PUNK IS ALIVE AND WELL IN 2023!
Glad you had a good time!!! I hate myself for missing ALL at Shitty Gardens (NJ) where Milo filled in. I’m in SoCal now and trying to catch the old bands again! Seeing Skinny Puppy for their Farewell Tour-so I’m pumped for that but you must have seen a helluva show!!!
I used to have this on vhs.... recorded it and watched it all the time
funny you look very unpunk
The sad thing is the best years of punk was barely covered. 82 to 90. There is literally thousands of great underground punk and hardcore from this time. If you don't like punk you just haven't heard your favorite band yet. Oh by the way your current favorite band sucks!
Seems to always be the case unfortunately
So True!
My fav band are spice girls and baby metal
u think 82-90 was the best years of punk rock? maybe to a hipster. the best were the 70s. the 70s punk laid down, the foundation of punk philosophy.
the american stuff from the 80s usually is called hardcore and a lot of hardcore fans don´t like the term punk.
Its a shame that VH1 doesn't do stuff like this anymore but this was back when they were all about the music & good shows
Ok, so I'm halfway through and I'm wondering how you do a special on the history of punk that doesn't mention The Saints. They were one of the first (their first album "I'm Stranded" came out in February '77). I know they were far from the biggest or best known, but the Ramones knew who they were and were big fans. Sometimes I wonder if the people who make these documentaries are aware that there is a world outside of North America and English-speaking Europe.
Because the majority of the punk movement was uk/us based. I guarantee you if there was an updated documentary that divulges into the explosion of great punk that the au has been pumping out, the saints would be without a doubt brought into the conversation.
Let’s face it, the true fact of the matter is,there was the saint’s and then there was bands that sounded like the saint’s, the sex pistols had their own image and they had the saints music.
I realized why this was so familiar, I taped it when it came on the first time! Probably one of the many tapes I lost to a worn out vcr rewinding , it eventually got eaten up.
At 34:00 the narrator mentions something about skinheads bringing racism and neo-nazism into punk. There is a HUGE misconception about what true "skinhead" is. It is not what we think of here in the U.S. as being nazis and hardcore Oi/thrash/punk. The true roots of skinhead began in the mid to late 60s with the mass immigration of Jamaicans to the U.K. Jamaican Rude Boys and working class street kids in England who were basically at the tail end of being mods are the ones who started true skinhead culture. They were called skinheads because they had very short, cropped haircuts which was very different from the look of the times with long haired hippies. Ska and reggae was the flavor and choice of music, along with some American soul and R&B. There is a great documentary by Don Letts on the subject that I think everyone should watch. Sure the National Front in England recruited racist skinheads but that is not what true skinhead is and people now ONLY associated skinheads with neo-nazis and it couldnt be more wrong.
yeah what´s new
@@vgee3991 beat me to it
Search "skinhead girl" ( song)....,real skins stuff
There were skinheads pushing people about and punching people at most punk gigs i went to 1978-80. They had no music of their own went to punk gigs to single out weaker people that they could enjoy beating. I think the right wing thing came came to them later. Sham 69 gigs were particularly bad.
Johnny Thunders played rock n roll style guitar. He had those Chuck Berry licks and bends down.
Who was the idiot that said the Velvet Underground came onto the scene the same time the Beatles released l want to hold your hand?
The Beatles had already written & released albums that changed everything recording wise before the Velvet Underground was even an idea.
And the Velv. Underground was completely an invention of Andy Warhol- just a project of his...
There’s a year between the two songs
for been a vh1 documentary is pretty good, also have some of the best people, from 2001.
I feel they could have talked about punks influence on metal like the rise of thrash and I guess metal core (mainly early stuff) or how the mc5 influenced moterhead
yeah people often forget to recognize how much punk and metal influence each other even if they are separate scenes
Metal doesn't like to admit that. Hair metal would've ended metal entirely without the speed, rhythm, and stylings of punk rock
Cranky Jay Sure it does. Discharge have more in common with Hellhammer than they do with The Clash. As a metalhead, I praise The League and GBH as much as Exodus and Witchfinder General.
yeah grindcore and crustpunk were not mentioned at all either
That whole CBGB's section is missing the Bad Brains, wonder why . . .