kemery22222 that's exactly what i think. It's the nicest thing ever, it means the guy listen to you. And sincerly i do not need u to spend so much money on me, am in for you, not the money! Tamar is seriously immature most of the times.
I thought it was very thoughtful. Not to mention the effort he put in too making her sandwich and making sure it was gluten free to her favourite chocolate. Its the little things that count. I would have no problem going on a picnic date.
+StingingwithqueenC I am A guy and I love the picnic idea,but I think going on a picnic with someone on the first date is thoughtful but dangerous because you do not know that person well enough to trust them with your food such as they can poison you or slip a drug in on you without you knowing so you have to be very careful when you go on a picnic, it has happend to a lot of my friends.
Miss Chansa I think she just don't like super intimacy on the first date . Thats why she kept saying I dont like you like that . Which is understandable , ONLY when you know what you dealing with .
Shade Alert: Soooooo..... Jeannie's rose garden date was LESS romantic than Adrienne's circus date? I'm missing something here...... Both dates to me are creative, however, the shade that's constantly being thrown to Jeannie everytime she's tells a personal story, which is also low key shade to Freddie, is right damn ridiculous. That's why I love Tamera, because she doesn't hesitate to step up for Jeannie when necessary. Like damn, fall back sometimes!
Well I'm not sure if it was meant as shade. It was just not what the Tamar would do. We can all see Tamar doesn't like the outdoors. It's comes with bugs, heat and other things. I wouldn't typically like a outdoor date because that's not the type of person I am. It all depends on the person. I wouldn't tell them at the time I didn't like it because it would sound rude, but I would remind them I don't like the outdoors.
Makiyah Jackson C'mon now.....you know Tamar can be 'Queen of the Shade'. They all have their lil ways about them, she's just more outspoken and upfront with hers. Love Tamar, but I believe I tasted a hint of hate & paprika, but hey what do I know? 😞
Redayvn Hughley I feel you 100% but I actually think Tamar handled it well this time. She didn't get all extra like "Girl don't nobody want no picnic on a first date, get to life!" She just expressed that she wouldn't be into that for a FIRST date. I thought she was more polite in how she disagreed than in the past, if that makes sense. She didn't totally shut Jeannie down. Just my take.. I think this season they've gotten better with each other overall too.
Anonymous So why are you so in YOUR feelings about other people's opinions? Do you personally KNOW Tamar or something? You clearly haven't been keeping up with MY comments personally, for you would know that I don't bash her every chance I get. She's done nothing to me personally, so why would I get that caught up? Imma need some people to stop being such a super fan, and understand that everyone's opinions are just that.......opinions. My opinions change for NO ONE. No one said they didn't like Tamar. I've said something about all of them, good and bad, so please take your protest elsewhere, it's just not that damn serious.
Here we go again. Just because they don't agree with Jeannie doesn't mean they're shading her. They just don't agree. Ya'll always reading into something.
I thought the what Freddie did was so romantic. Listening to Loni and Tamar made me realize there are really some ungrateful people in this world. Somebody goes through all that trouble for you, making all the things you love, and you say it's about the coin or I want to be able to call my friends.
Everyone has preferences just as everyone has opinions. No matter what, the right guy will fit the preferences or probably exceed your expections. I can't knock anyone for their preference. If I like ghirardelli and you like hersheys or vice versa, so be it.
MsDallen2011 heck if some cute guy just takes me to mcdonalds i'd be happy. hahah i'm just gonna lay it out there, i'm 21 and I'm an all out virgin who has never dated and have never kissed any guy. now that's understandable because I'm gay and I don't have a community for things like that, BUT i'd be soooo delighted and happy if a guy takes me somewhere romantic you know. idk if my statistics is screwed up but i feel like it's rare for people to engage in something romatic these days like an intimate picnic or candle light dinner or something with all the work, and restaurants or idk malls just being erected in every corner of every city (not that it's a bad thing) but the fact that a dude is willing to make effort...that speaks volumes.
I like Jeannie's first date! Why must a man spend so much on a first date to impress you? A picnic is fine with me. Maybe, our 1 year anniversary, you can take me on that 7 course meal dinner. The circus idea was also cute, but I agree that creativity is much better than spending all kinds of money on me. I don't want my man thinking that only money will bring me happiness, I deserve more than that. I deserve your time, thoughts, and love, not your entire bank account.
I know, right? Talk about superficiality. My current relationship, my first date was to a mini golf course because I had mentioned that I had never been in a random conversation, then because there was an Ikea nearby (I wanted to go check out their new inventory) we ended up eating there instead of the restaurant he wanted to take me. Dude knows why he took Loni on a 7-course meal. That's a whole lot of woman to feed. Smhh!!! She is so mean. And, Tamar with her uppity self. Who calls their gf in the middle of a date? Grown women still act this way? SMH!!
Jeanie idea and experience with hubby is sweet. Tamar I think it's high time your place and give Jeanie a chance to express herself. With that 7 course dinner and loni as desert. The dude didnot marry u. Know ur place hun.
I think it's okay for different women to like different first dates. I love me some Tamar but she has a problem with "Agreeing to Disagree". It's Okay if the other women doesn't want a 5 Star restaurant for their first date. It's totally fine to have different preferences.
I would choose creativity over quantity everytime. That Freddy took Jeannie to a picnic was soo sweet. That sweeter than a fancy restaurant...And he even remebered she didnt eat gluten free was a plus
I kinda feel like they really secretly thought the picnic was sweet, but one( Loni) couldn't be the odd one and agree about how sweet the picnic really was. Jealousy and peer pressure is a trip even in the 30's and 40's as they were at the time. I see that at play here. Because Tamar was heming and hawing, Loni for the sake of inclusion ( w/ Tamar) had to go along to get along imo.
I wouldn't like the picnic date only because I do not like eating outside. Between my allergies and the annoying bugs I would not enjoy myself at all lol but the thought is very cute.
Love Alexis I know what you mean, My mom tried to set up a nice picnic on the outside of an amusement park we sat under a tree it wasn't too sunny, good. Well Did she forget she hates loud noises and a lot of people around her food, plus little kids running around and bugs... Long story short, we ended up going back to the car to eat... and Never did that again.
This may sound lame but my favorite first date was when me and this guy went to the mall. Yes, the mall! I was picking out stuff that I thought would look cute on him, and he did the same for me, I tried stuff on for him and all. Food court, we chatted for what seemed like forever. We were sampling eachother food! Cacking and flirting non stop. Chile, we spent the whole day in that bad boy! For some reason I loved it. I was wild comfortable with him because of this. Ahh memories.
Lina Luv That's the example of a perfect first date. Allowing yourselves just to be fun and not having forced conversation over a $500 plate of food. Tamar and Loni would be boring to date. They would probably hate amusement parks, laser tag, go karts and more.
Luv4Animexoxo Have you seen her on the Braxton's show. She hates and complains anytime they do anything outside or fun. "Ew why we outside?!?!" "Ew Animals!! "Ew dirt!"
I like the picnic date. Definitely shows that he was listening if he gets things that I like. I don't care what I eat on a date. I'm with Jeannie when it comes to if a guy has a problem with what I'm eating. I'm eating whatever I want. I definitely agree with watching how drinks you have.
If Tamera thinks first impressions are everything for the first date and couples should go to the most expensive or impressive place, why is it okay to eat ribs in front of dude? I Don't like that they talk down on all of Jeannie's ideas. If Freddie knew her favorite drinks and food, that shows he listens to her and that they knew each other well enough for him to do that.
They said first date. How long do you take to have your first date with a guy? Not within the first month for the most? How much do you trust someone within a first month? Those days are gone with the wind and are in fairy-tales. It's dangerous to have someone you barely know handle your food like that knowing that some men turn out to be really 'not what they seem'. He could drug you and take you anywhere and do you anything. The circus idea is just the same but not so bad because you can excuse yourself and claim "washroom break" and step away to call a friend. Waiting at least a few months is better.
Tricia Constantine So it's impossible to be FRIENDS with someone before you grow romantic interest? I'd bet the majority of steady marriages are between two people who were friends long before they started dating. It's idiotic to assume they'd known each other for less than a month just because you apparently go around with some kind of forehead radar that automatically decides whether a person you meet you're going to date the literal second you meet them. People can start dating after years of knowing each other, the shade people are throwing is just stupid.
peacenothate I'll never disagree with what you said but I do know people who've only met each other from 'hook-ups'. 2 of them actually have long marriages and the others are still in relationships. So I was making a statement based upon what I know too. Some people DO meet in a date-like settings and start off small and they grew on each other. I do see couples start off like that as well.
It was sweet, touching and original and they KNOW this. I think there was a bit of jealousy perhaps that theirs weren't as original, so why not rain on Jeannies parade. And Loni trying to get a laugh at Jeannie's expense by referring to her date as "brokeness"was in poor taste. Rotten bad manners!!! Much envy!!
I think Freddie already knew a lot about Jennie (they probably started off as friends) before their first picnic date which is what makes it ok. He knew her favourite dark chocolate, Rosé, etc. For most first dates, you're literally just getting to know the person and what they like and so camping out with food alone is just weird, in my opinion.. which is why I get where Tamar is coming from saying she doesn't like/ know them like that yet. You don't just go out on a picnic with someone you barely know (assuming it's only the first date) as it's more intimate, again, in my opinion.
My first date with my now boyfriend was simple and cute, we went to a little coffee shop downtown and sat outside and talked for hours sipping on some coffee and he definitely stepped up the game after that. You want to get to know the person on the first date
I don't like how they did Jeanie. You don't have to spend thousands on a date. She liked it & Freddy liked it. That's all that matters, Loni & Tamar were rude for that.
Oh my gosh THE SHADEEEEEE! Tamar is so rude for continuously bashing Jeanie's picnic date like we get it you think its weird but Jeanie seemed genuinely happy about it. Tamar needs to shut up sometimes
Dear Tamar it's not everyday let's disagree with Jeannie okay? A well thought out picnic date can be so lovely and romantic, anyway that's what majority of the folk did way back in day when chivalry and being a gentlemen was very much in existence amongst the men. :)
I think first impressions are a subjective matter. What may impress Jeannie may not impress Tamar (and vice versa); however, that doesn't mean the picnic date was any less impressive or well-thought-out than going to a place "with a bathroom."
While all the ladies just going awww for Jeanie, Tamar just had to ruin the vibe and had to be the one thinking differently. SMDH! When Adriene talked about her circus date, Tamar went back to being nice and an angel. Now part of me feels like if Jeanie had said she went to the circus she be straight saying that's wack bla bla bla and acted other way round if Adrienne or any other ladies said their date was in picnic. I most definitely 10000% think Jeanie's date was deep and valuable and it was more about the quality than the amount of money spent, and the ladies obv got touched by that, except the expensive Tamar and Loni, why they think how much money their date has is the key to success in the relationship in comparison to how much creativity a man puts. The logic.
Tamar is confused. Jeannie and her husband were good friends before they started dating. Tamar is thinking about like a blind date or going out on a date with someone you've only known for like a few days or a week.
madmann1000 I thought about that while they were talking, although I wasn't quite sure if Jeanie knew her husband prior to the date. I think knowing them as friend first makes some difference.
I think they were talking about two different scenarios. I can understand Tamar and Loni's point of view, when this is your first initial meeting with "your date", and you've never met this person before, I can understand why a Picnic may not be a good "First Date". On the other hand, if you're Jeannie and Adrianne's case, where you were FRIENDS with "your date" PRIOR to being romantically involved, a Picnic isn't a bad idea because you already know the person, they're not gonna kidnap you. So, I understand both sides, I think they just weren't understanding that initial difference. There's "court" dating, like Tamera has mentioned prior, where you're trying to "find somebody", and there's getting involved romantically, with somebody you've known for awhile. TWO different scenarios.
Well I think we all understand that Tamar is VEEEERY shallow, so I get where she is coming from. I'd rather sit in the restaurant too, BUT in the picnic scenario (and things similar), to have someone who cares that much is gonna most likely be a good fit for you in the long run. It all depends on how well you *KNOW* them before the first date.
knp814 no really, why is that happening???? everyone knows no white bra under the white top unless you are purposely trying to accentuate the outfit with your bra, like back when they had the day glo bras....
This is why Tamar isn't on there anymore. (Please don't attack me because I love Tamar but I'm simply stating my perspective as a general viewer) It's one thing to have an opinion and all but that's YOUR opinion. No need to borderline belittle Jeanie for appreciating the small things because YOU want a typical restaurant date with plates.
Loni and Tamar! Wow!! I thought firstly loni love was supposed to be a mediator! What a disgrace for coming down on Jeannie like that. Firstly let me just say that picnic was the start of what is now a beautiful marriage. Loni - sleeping around on your first day regardless of the number of courses does not a classy date make. Tamar is just a bully. It's clear from the a lot of the comments that I'm not the only one thinking it. What did Jeannie do to you? Apart from look better, achieve more and have a marriage full of deep emotional love? Oh. Right. I get it. Jealousy
I like Jeannie and Adrienne first dates. It's different yet simple. Especially Jeannie's because it showed that her he listened to the things to like and put it all together in a picnic.
I love the picnic idea it's sweet, thoughtful, creative, and most of all refreshing. I mean you can go out on a 1st date with plenty of guys to a fancy restaurant, and let him pay for the $200.00 meal but if it's the size of his wallet that impresses you you're in it for the wrong reasons.
Jeanie's date sounded so cute I would rather that over any expensive restaurant as a first date it shows that he listens BUT if he were to take me to my favorite restaurant that's also fine too.
OMG MY MAN TOOK ME TO THE CIRCUS ON MY FIRST DATEEE! It was the first best date I've ever been on and we've been going every year for a few years now! Thought I was the only one! I nearly dropped my plate of food when he said that...Love Adrienne!
I don't know about you guys but I feel a really heavy burden when someone spends a lot of money on me. Idk, it just doesn't feel very courteous to me to allow myself to accept so much on a first date. The picnic thing for me would have been perfect! A romantic day and you save a few pennies:) So I shall respectfully disagree with Tamar and Loni on that one. And he even took the time to make vegan sandwiches!! Come on! I get really happy when someone even remembers my birthday let alone a card or gifts! I'm just someone who likes to give love and don't mind not receiving it:) makes the world a little bit more colourful I guess!
My mom went on a picnic for her first date, extremely cute idea!! It has been three years now, and his kids and I absolutely adore each other. I really think this is the year he proposes!!!!!
This segment is so annoying: Adrienne goes on a date to the circus, cute; romantic but Jeannie goes to a picnic and it's not okay. Reasons why Loni is still single and she's older than all of them and Jeannie has been married for 8 years. They just always gotta find a way to make Jeannie feel bad about herself. A picnic is so cute and movie like. It's not all about money and sex. Freddie paid attention to what Jeannie likes which is cute and very important. Shouldn't that get praised? Everything else is ok but Jeannie's one is always bad. Seriously it's so frustrating not only is Tamar and Loni throwing hateful shade at Jeannie but also to her man saying he didn't do good enough and him making food for his girl is bad and that's horrible. We all know Tamar and Loni are really jealous of her, so we understand but it's so rude they need to listen to her and stop finding every excuse to hate on her, because it's getting too high school around here and it's really hard to watch.
My first date with my current boyfriend for a year next week was at a restaurant and we just ordered drinks and we talked for hours..that was cool 😊😊👍🏻👍🏻
I love when first dates are at my favourite restaurant or if you bring me to a picnic and bring my favourite food. Tamar is so extra and materialistic omg everything doesn't have to be fancy
If a dude ever spent $4000 on me I would judge him negatively. Unless he's a millionaire he should not be spendin money recklessly like that hell no I'm not gonna date someone that gon spend like that lol i like Lenny and Adrienne's first date best
Adam has a winery so he has a lot money plus it was over a four month time span nd he was the one that told Tamera to order whatever she wanted so he care
***** if you're measuring the wellness of your date by the amount of money he spent that is borderline golddigger. It is fine to no appreciate a man spending money on you if you grew up in a low income home and learned the value of a dollar.
Am i the only 1 that thinks first impressions dont matter? I mean, its very rare that someone will be completely theirselves with u when u just meet, and i dont expect them to be. Their true self and personality, whatever it may be, will be revealed as time goes by.. I dont even remember the first impression of most of the people i know
I'm with Tamar and I'd think I'd need a bathroom near by to hit up a friend if it all goes wrong. Whenever I go out with a dude for the first time I tell a friend & make sure I can hit them up once or twice throughout the date to check in bc people are crazy. If it's a picnic & I can see a public bathroom nearby we all good.
Don't know why people think Tamar is being shady. I agree with both of them. It's cute but not for a first. Tiny lil thang like me can get killed easily. Need to know the dude a few months in for that trust to soak in.
Jeanette How do any of you know that Freddie was a random stranger? If he pulled out ALL HER FAVORITE THINGS and he was a total stranger *obviously* she'd be creeped out. It's amazing how people criticize someone without using common sense. "Oh, but not on the first date." "Oh, but I need to know you first." If Freddie did something like this its pretty obvious the two were well acquainted before hand.
peacenothate When did I say Freddie was a random stranger? I didn't say anything negative about Jeannie or Freddie. I said I agree with Tamar because on a first date (whether I'm well acquainted with a guy or not) this is exactly what I do blahblahblah..I go to the bathroom check my hair, text my friends, whatever. & you know creeps aren't always strangers right? "It's amazing how people criticize someone without using common sense."
You need to check your hair and text your friends while on a date? Only one of those seems acceptable for someone beyond the age of 16. And it was pretty clear Tamar was disagreeing with Jeannie. So yes it is amazing how people criticize people without using common sense. But, to each their own.
They were hating on the picnic but thought the circus was a good date? Lmao. Picnics are the best. A man holding a basket, a blanket, and possibly flowers for you is everything. No dude who is after just your body would do such a thing for a girl.
also loni is the one who isn't married or engaged and yet she thinks she knows the most about men. clearly you don't cause you can't keep none. #satisfiedandsinglemyass
I think it just depends on the woman in question and her expectations for the man who's taking her on the date. There is no wrong answer really. Some people feel more comfortable being wined and dined others enjoy the simpler, and thoughtful dates. Chill out hombres
my rule is: don't order something that you yourself can't afford. Also going to an expensive restaurant on a first date is so boring, i'd rather go to the circus like adrienne did.
I think it's just a big communication gap. Tamar is talking about a first date where you barely know the person, so the first date you are getting to know them. Therefore, the guy already knowing your favorite things is kind of weird And a picnic is kind of a very intimate/comfortable date for someone you just met. Imagine going on a first date with someone you don't really know to a picnic and they know all this stuff about you...kinda weird. BUT Jeanie's first date with her man was different. They already knew a lot about each other and were comfortable with each other I guess because they always travel and are apart. So I figure phone conversations and skyping made them know a lot about each other before their real first date (how else will he know her favorite chocolate and sandwiches and drink, etc.) well without just straight up asking her. So yea I think they weren't understanding each other situations so that's were the issue came in.
I love how tamera understands where jeannie ist coming from while Tamar and Loni dont (i understand tamar Point) whether Adrienne ist havening No opinion about it. And offen sind i noticed that adrienne is a opportunist she Acts always nice to people she wants or benefit from. And when so. is getting bullied she wouldnt help that Person and be Just "neutral".
Tamar is funny, but she can be drama and petty at times.. I wish she would cut Jeannie a break. I am glad that Tamera (my fave) and Adrienne stood up for sweet Jeannie :)
Now Tamar, lay off Jeanie!! I remember that pass snippet where someone was asked to give impressions of the girls and Jeanie's was a phrase that involved 'girlfriends' which we all know by now that she goes crazy over her 'girlfriends'! So with that said, maaaaybe she didn't have a girlfriend to call... ijs...Next, pertaining to what Adrienne said, maybe creativity is what does it for her..the fact that Freddy listened. Weren't they friends before they started dating? Jeeeeees!!
I understand what Tamara is saying you don't want your first date to be super romantic . Because y'all just getting to know each other . And are seeing if your compatible . The whole picnic thing . That's something you do when you know for sure she's interested and you wanna be spontaneous . And charming and show her your really know her and things she likes .
I'm not sure I understand why Tamar and Loni were so hard on the picnic idea. I thought that was very thoughtful and sweet of Freddie.
kemery22222 that's exactly what i think. It's the nicest thing ever, it means the guy listen to you. And sincerly i do not need u to spend so much money on me, am in for you, not the money! Tamar is seriously immature most of the times.
kemery22222 Because it came out of Jeannie's mouth
I thought it was very thoughtful. Not to mention the effort he put in too making her sandwich and making sure it was gluten free to her favourite chocolate. Its the little things that count. I would have no problem going on a picnic date.
+StingingwithqueenC I am A guy and I love the picnic idea,but I think going on a picnic with someone on the first date is thoughtful but dangerous because you do not know that person well enough to trust them with your food such as they can poison you or slip a drug in on you without you knowing so you have to be very careful when you go on a picnic, it has happend to a lot of my friends.
+banbina18 Preach!
Tamar, a PICNIC is not something you'd do but you praised Adrienne for being taken to a Circus? LOL. I just don't get it sometimes.
I know right i feel like she purposely shutting jeanie down on the low 😒😒😒
fgumaneh65 SERIOUSLY!
Miss Chansa I think she just don't like super intimacy on the first date . Thats why she kept saying I dont like you like that . Which is understandable , ONLY when you know what you dealing with .
Rriawnna Ransom But isn't dinner intimate? I think it is. Anyway, her choice, I'm not beating her down for it.
Miss Chansa picnic = bugs = wind = sitting in a awkward position ?? do I need to explain more
once again jeanie's experience was slammed ! i think her first date was super sweet and i would take a picnic over a circus date anytime!
Me too
They are both great.
But her stories are endless....
nah take me to the circus, picnic is so intimate
Sisters disagree but they respect each other
Shade Alert: Soooooo.....
Jeannie's rose garden date was LESS romantic than Adrienne's circus date? I'm missing something here......
Both dates to me are creative, however, the shade that's constantly being thrown to Jeannie everytime she's tells a personal story, which is also low key shade to Freddie, is right damn ridiculous. That's why I love Tamera, because she doesn't hesitate to step up for Jeannie when necessary. Like damn, fall back sometimes!
Well I'm not sure if it was meant as shade. It was just not what the Tamar would do. We can all see Tamar doesn't like the outdoors. It's comes with bugs, heat and other things. I wouldn't typically like a outdoor date because that's not the type of person I am. It all depends on the person. I wouldn't tell them at the time I didn't like it because it would sound rude, but I would remind them I don't like the outdoors.
Makiyah Jackson C'mon now.....you know Tamar can be 'Queen of the Shade'. They all have their lil ways about them, she's just more outspoken and upfront with hers. Love Tamar, but I believe I tasted a hint of hate & paprika, but hey what do I know? 😞
Redayvn Hughley I feel you 100% but I actually think Tamar handled it well this time. She didn't get all extra like "Girl don't nobody want no picnic on a first date, get to life!" She just expressed that she wouldn't be into that for a FIRST date. I thought she was more polite in how she disagreed than in the past, if that makes sense. She didn't totally shut Jeannie down. Just my take.. I think this season they've gotten better with each other overall too.
Anonymous So why are you so in YOUR feelings about other people's opinions? Do you personally KNOW Tamar or something? You clearly haven't been keeping up with MY comments personally, for you would know that I don't bash her every chance I get. She's done nothing to me personally, so why would I get that caught up? Imma need some people to stop being such a super fan, and understand that everyone's opinions are just that.......opinions. My opinions change for NO ONE. No one said they didn't like Tamar. I've said something about all of them, good and bad, so please take your protest elsewhere, it's just not that damn serious.
Here we go again. Just because they don't agree with Jeannie doesn't mean they're shading her. They just don't agree. Ya'll always reading into something.
I thought the what Freddie did was so romantic. Listening to Loni and Tamar made me realize there are really some ungrateful people in this world. Somebody goes through all that trouble for you, making all the things you love, and you say it's about the coin or I want to be able to call my friends.
She's just spoiled but i still love her though
Everyone has preferences just as everyone has opinions. No matter what, the right guy will fit the preferences or probably exceed your expections. I can't knock anyone for their preference. If I like ghirardelli and you like hersheys or vice versa, so be it.
MsDallen2011 heck if some cute guy just takes me to mcdonalds i'd be happy. hahah i'm just gonna lay it out there, i'm 21 and I'm an all out virgin who has never dated and have never kissed any guy. now that's understandable because I'm gay and I don't have a community for things like that, BUT i'd be soooo delighted and happy if a guy takes me somewhere romantic you know. idk if my statistics is screwed up but i feel like it's rare for people to engage in something romatic these days like an intimate picnic or candle light dinner or something with all the work, and restaurants or idk malls just being erected in every corner of every city (not that it's a bad thing) but the fact that a dude is willing to make effort...that speaks volumes.
I agree.
PREACH!!!
I like Jeannie's first date! Why must a man spend so much on a first date to impress you? A picnic is fine with me. Maybe, our 1 year anniversary, you can take me on that 7 course meal dinner. The circus idea was also cute, but I agree that creativity is much better than spending all kinds of money on me. I don't want my man thinking that only money will bring me happiness, I deserve more than that. I deserve your time, thoughts, and love, not your entire bank account.
Your awesome, I couldn’t have said it better myself, I just want his TLC.
I know, right? Talk about superficiality. My current relationship, my first date was to a mini golf course because I had mentioned that I had never been in a random conversation, then because there was an Ikea nearby (I wanted to go check out their new inventory) we ended up eating there instead of the restaurant he wanted to take me.
Dude knows why he took Loni on a 7-course meal. That's a whole lot of woman to feed. Smhh!!! She is so mean. And, Tamar with her uppity self. Who calls their gf in the middle of a date? Grown women still act this way? SMH!!
@@Renz29Robe i think she meant when she goes to the bathroom shes gonna call her friend to tell her how its going
tamar and loni was wrong on this one. jeanie's first date was so cute
IcedLipGloss that's cos they're both gold-diggers and only care if the guy is rich enough to afford expensive restaurants
OMG Tamar needa chill !! 💯 We all know you wasn't always rich......
Thank you I wish she could be more humbled like Tamara
ellayjah Right? Didn't we all see that house she grew up in? Her parents need to teach her to be more practical.
Oof the shade girl
A picnic is a great date, why are Tamar and Loni acting like this is the worse idea ever? I would love a picnic date!
Tashwampa mine was a picnic date at the park. I loved it! It was very thoughtful and he made us food. It means they put a lot of energy and thought
Nice hat😅
Jeanie idea and experience with hubby is sweet. Tamar I think it's high time your place and give Jeanie a chance to express herself. With that 7 course dinner and loni as desert. The dude didnot marry u. Know ur place hun.
These videos are so addictive. The women on here are sooooo hilarious.
Tom Matthews I'm supposed to be doing work 3 hrs later
I wonder what my first date will be with my future husband ^.^
immi's snow globe same here😍
immi's snow globe it's been 2 years, do you think you've found the one
immi's snow globe same!
immi's snow globe its been 3 years since your comment, you got married? 😂
immi's snow globe Amen
I think it's okay for different women to like different first dates. I love me some Tamar but she has a problem with "Agreeing to Disagree". It's Okay if the other women doesn't want a 5 Star restaurant for their first date. It's totally fine to have different preferences.
HiMyNameIsHeaven I strongly agree
thank you
My first date was a double date to T.G.I.F the staff messed it up so we only made it to appetizers.
I would choose creativity over quantity everytime. That Freddy took Jeannie to a picnic was soo sweet. That sweeter than a fancy restaurant...And he even remebered she didnt eat gluten free was a plus
Why are you associating creativity with cheapness?
Not cheap at all. You ever paid for a picnic before? @@littleteapot6889
I kinda feel like they really secretly thought the picnic was sweet, but one( Loni) couldn't be the odd one and agree about how sweet the picnic really was. Jealousy and peer pressure is a trip even in the 30's and 40's as they were at the time. I see that at play here. Because Tamar was heming and hawing, Loni for the sake of inclusion ( w/ Tamar) had to go along to get along imo.
I wouldn't like the picnic date only because I do not like eating outside. Between my allergies and the annoying bugs I would not enjoy myself at all lol but the thought is very cute.
Yesssss I'm the same way! Indoor dates please lol
Love Alexis I know what you mean, My mom tried to set up a nice picnic on the outside of an amusement park we sat under a tree it wasn't too sunny, good. Well Did she forget she hates loud noises and a lot of people around her food, plus little kids running around and bugs... Long story short, we ended up going back to the car to eat... and Never did that again.
I'm the same way.
Acceptable☺️☺️☺️
This may sound lame but my favorite first date was when me and this guy went to the mall. Yes, the mall! I was picking out stuff that I thought would look cute on him, and he did the same for me, I tried stuff on for him and all. Food court, we chatted for what seemed like forever. We were sampling eachother food! Cacking and flirting non stop. Chile, we spent the whole day in that bad boy! For some reason I loved it. I was wild comfortable with him because of this. Ahh memories.
Lina Luv That's the example of a perfect first date. Allowing yourselves just to be fun and not having forced conversation over a $500 plate of food. Tamar and Loni would be boring to date. They would probably hate amusement parks, laser tag, go karts and more.
Luv4Animexoxo Have you seen her on the Braxton's show. She hates and complains anytime they do anything outside or fun. "Ew why we outside?!?!" "Ew Animals!! "Ew dirt!"
Uhhh yea, u not bout to take me to no mall for a first date 😑. But I guess there's only uphill from there.
Luv4Animexoxo Ok.
i dont mean to sound rude but that is so corny like really the mall with your favorite first date
I like the picnic date. Definitely shows that he was listening if he gets things that I like. I don't care what I eat on a date. I'm with Jeannie when it comes to if a guy has a problem with what I'm eating. I'm eating whatever I want. I definitely agree with watching how drinks you have.
I love hearing Tamera's stories about her and Adam. So cute. Jeannie and Adrienne's stories were nice, too.
If Tamera thinks first impressions are everything for the first date and couples should go to the most expensive or impressive place, why is it okay to eat ribs in front of dude? I Don't like that they talk down on all of Jeannie's ideas. If Freddie knew her favorite drinks and food, that shows he listens to her and that they knew each other well enough for him to do that.
They said first date. How long do you take to have your first date with a guy? Not within the first month for the most? How much do you trust someone within a first month? Those days are gone with the wind and are in fairy-tales. It's dangerous to have someone you barely know handle your food like that knowing that some men turn out to be really 'not what they seem'. He could drug you and take you anywhere and do you anything. The circus idea is just the same but not so bad because you can excuse yourself and claim "washroom break" and step away to call a friend. Waiting at least a few months is better.
Elizabeth Taylor lol I was thinking the same thing about what Tamera said!!! So you can go around with rib sauce on your cheek!?
Tricia Constantine So it's impossible to be FRIENDS with someone before you grow romantic interest? I'd bet the majority of steady marriages are between two people who were friends long before they started dating. It's idiotic to assume they'd known each other for less than a month just because you apparently go around with some kind of forehead radar that automatically decides whether a person you meet you're going to date the literal second you meet them. People can start dating after years of knowing each other, the shade people are throwing is just stupid.
peacenothate I'll never disagree with what you said but I do know people who've only met each other from 'hook-ups'. 2 of them actually have long marriages and the others are still in relationships. So I was making a statement based upon what I know too. Some people DO meet in a date-like settings and start off small and they grew on each other. I do see couples start off like that as well.
Elizabeth Taylor Tamar literally said tht she doesn't think it's ok to eat messy foods such a ribs on a first date at all
They shouldn't disagree with what someone else thought was a prefect date. Jennies husband actually put thought into his date that why they hatin
It was sweet, touching and original and they KNOW this. I think there was a bit of jealousy perhaps that theirs weren't as original, so why not rain on Jeannies parade. And Loni trying to get a laugh at Jeannie's expense by referring to her date as "brokeness"was in poor taste. Rotten bad manners!!! Much envy!!
I think Freddie already knew a lot about Jennie (they probably started off as friends) before their first picnic date which is what makes it ok. He knew her favourite dark chocolate, Rosé, etc.
For most first dates, you're literally just getting to know the person and what they like and so camping out with food alone is just weird, in my opinion.. which is why I get where Tamar is coming from saying she doesn't like/ know them like that yet.
You don't just go out on a picnic with someone you barely know (assuming it's only the first date) as it's more intimate, again, in my opinion.
My first date with my now boyfriend was simple and cute, we went to a little coffee shop downtown and sat outside and talked for hours sipping on some coffee and he definitely stepped up the game after that. You want to get to know the person on the first date
Leah Christine That was my first date with my boyfriend! So sweet
I don't like how they did Jeanie. You don't have to spend thousands on a date. She liked it & Freddy liked it. That's all that matters, Loni & Tamar were rude for that.
Quality over Quantity!!! Picnic? YES!! Way to go Freddie!!
Oh my gosh THE SHADEEEEEE! Tamar is so rude for continuously bashing Jeanie's picnic date like we get it you think its weird but Jeanie seemed genuinely happy about it. Tamar needs to shut up sometimes
Why are they always worried about how much coin someone has?!?
Maybe because they don't want the person to go broke.
Dear Tamar it's not everyday let's disagree with Jeannie okay? A well thought out picnic date can be so lovely and romantic, anyway that's what majority of the folk did way back in day when chivalry and being a gentlemen was very much in existence amongst the men. :)
I think first impressions are a subjective matter. What may impress Jeannie may not impress Tamar (and vice versa); however, that doesn't mean the picnic date was any less impressive or well-thought-out than going to a place "with a bathroom."
While all the ladies just going awww for Jeanie, Tamar just had to ruin the vibe and had to be the one thinking differently. SMDH!
When Adriene talked about her circus date, Tamar went back to being nice and an angel. Now part of me feels like if Jeanie had said she went to the circus she be straight saying that's wack bla bla bla and acted other way round if Adrienne or any other ladies said their date was in picnic.
I most definitely 10000% think Jeanie's date was deep and valuable and it was more about the quality than the amount of money spent, and the ladies obv got touched by that, except the expensive Tamar and Loni, why they think how much money their date has is the key to success in the relationship in comparison to how much creativity a man puts. The logic.
I agree
Tamar is confused. Jeannie and her husband were good friends before they started dating. Tamar is thinking about like a blind date or going out on a date with someone you've only known for like a few days or a week.
madmann1000 I thought about that while they were talking, although I wasn't quite sure if Jeanie knew her husband prior to the date. I think knowing them as friend first makes some difference.
madmann1000 Why the debate? To each his own.
I think they were talking about two different scenarios. I can understand Tamar and Loni's point of view, when this is your first initial meeting with "your date", and you've never met this person before, I can understand why a Picnic may not be a good "First Date". On the other hand, if you're Jeannie and Adrianne's case, where you were FRIENDS with "your date" PRIOR to being romantically involved, a Picnic isn't a bad idea because you already know the person, they're not gonna kidnap you. So, I understand both sides, I think they just weren't understanding that initial difference. There's "court" dating, like Tamera has mentioned prior, where you're trying to "find somebody", and there's getting involved romantically, with somebody you've known for awhile. TWO different scenarios.
Well I think we all understand that Tamar is VEEEERY shallow, so I get where she is coming from. I'd rather sit in the restaurant too, BUT in the picnic scenario (and things similar), to have someone who cares that much is gonna most likely be a good fit for you in the long run. It all depends on how well you *KNOW* them before the first date.
I love Jeanie! keep ur head up girl.
That white bra under a white top is distracting
Stop looking so hard 😊
knp814 no really, why is that happening???? everyone knows no white bra under the white top unless you are purposely trying to accentuate the outfit with your bra, like back when they had the day glo bras....
D wan Thank you!
Every time you comment it's about their clothes 😭😭😭😭
I agree! It's like girl, it's called a flesh tone bra!
Tamar's look is everything.
bee bee That's true though
healingduck one of her best looks ever. damn shes so radiant today
This is why Tamar isn't on there anymore. (Please don't attack me because I love Tamar but I'm simply stating my perspective as a general viewer) It's one thing to have an opinion and all but that's YOUR opinion. No need to borderline belittle Jeanie for appreciating the small things because YOU want a typical restaurant date with plates.
Amen
I think that anyone can pay a lot of money for a meal but not everyone can be so sweet and remember everything you like and do such a grand gesture
Loni and Tamar! Wow!! I thought firstly loni love was supposed to be a mediator! What a disgrace for coming down on Jeannie like that. Firstly let me just say that picnic was the start of what is now a beautiful marriage. Loni - sleeping around on your first day regardless of the number of courses does not a classy date make.
Tamar is just a bully. It's clear from the a lot of the comments that I'm not the only one thinking it. What did Jeannie do to you? Apart from look better, achieve more and have a marriage full of deep emotional love? Oh. Right. I get it. Jealousy
I like Jeannie and Adrienne first dates. It's different yet simple. Especially Jeannie's because it showed that her he listened to the things to like and put it all together in a picnic.
tamar acts like that spoiled rich girls that thinks she's entitled to the top of the line things.
The picnic idea was really sweet!!!
Tamar is as insecure as they come, we're all human, she defiantly is deeply insecure.
Wasn't Tamar's first date with Vince a trip to DisneyWorld?
dj_oldskool **crying laughing** funnel cakes too... but I love a good funnel cake, as long as it's simple and not too big
They are talking about first date ever not with their current man
dj_oldskool lmao
MuSiC1879 😂😂😂
@@iamkelsyk9455 no they aren't.
All these dates are so sweet, but I would be so excited for a picnic because that’s not common for a first date. That was so beautiful. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
I love the picnic idea it's sweet, thoughtful, creative, and most of all refreshing. I mean you can go out on a 1st date with plenty of guys to a fancy restaurant, and let him pay for the $200.00 meal but if it's the size of his wallet that impresses you you're in it for the wrong reasons.
Tamar is jealous of Jeannie
A Woods no she’s not.
Doubt it
Jeanie's date sounded so cute I would rather that over any expensive restaurant as a first date it shows that he listens BUT if he were to take me to my favorite restaurant that's also fine too.
1:26 that girl's got such a pretty smile.
OMG MY MAN TOOK ME TO THE CIRCUS ON MY FIRST DATEEE! It was the first best date I've ever been on and we've been going every year for a few years now! Thought I was the only one! I nearly dropped my plate of food when he said that...Love Adrienne!
This reminded me of ‘The Real’ then vs. ‘The Real’ Now. ♥️
LOL I swear Jeannie could've said her first date was a surprise trip to paris and Tamar STILL would've had something negative to say ha!
If I was Loni I think I would of been offended like why 7 courses?? what you tryna say ??? 😒
I feel bad when a guy spends too much on me
I feel bad when anybody spends too much on me.
I don't know about you guys but I feel a really heavy burden when someone spends a lot of money on me. Idk, it just doesn't feel very courteous to me to allow myself to accept so much on a first date. The picnic thing for me would have been perfect! A romantic day and you save a few pennies:) So I shall respectfully disagree with Tamar and Loni on that one. And he even took the time to make vegan sandwiches!! Come on! I get really happy when someone even remembers my birthday let alone a card or gifts! I'm just someone who likes to give love and don't mind not receiving it:) makes the world a little bit more colourful I guess!
My mom went on a picnic for her first date, extremely cute idea!! It has been three years now, and his kids and I absolutely adore each other. I really think this is the year he proposes!!!!!
Fingers crossed, hon.
Amaechi Jones thank you 💛💛
This segment is so annoying:
Adrienne goes on a date to the circus, cute; romantic but Jeannie goes to a picnic and it's not okay. Reasons why Loni is still single and she's older than all of them and Jeannie has been married for 8 years. They just always gotta find a way to make Jeannie feel bad about herself. A picnic is so cute and movie like. It's not all about money and sex. Freddie paid attention to what Jeannie likes which is cute and very important. Shouldn't that get praised? Everything else is ok but Jeannie's one is always bad. Seriously it's so frustrating not only is Tamar and Loni throwing hateful shade at Jeannie but also to her man saying he didn't do good enough and him making food for his girl is bad and that's horrible. We all know Tamar and Loni are really jealous of her, so we understand but it's so rude they need to listen to her and stop finding every excuse to hate on her, because it's getting too high school around here and it's really hard to watch.
My first date with my current boyfriend for a year next week was at a restaurant and we just ordered drinks and we talked for hours..that was cool 😊😊👍🏻👍🏻
I love when first dates are at my favourite restaurant or if you bring me to a picnic and bring my favourite food. Tamar is so extra and materialistic omg everything doesn't have to be fancy
She's not materialistic. Just because you like cheap(er) dates doesn't make her a bad person
@@NoName-sp5dp Who said is a bad person? I said the date doesn't have to be fancy or even "cheaper(er)" but thoughtful.
Right. I've got it, first date will be a picnic.
Definitely worth a shot.
Adrienne (as usual) looks gorgeous, and Tamar looks really fresh and cute. I am digging that hairstyle :)
I love the little chuckle noise loni randomly makes.
If a dude ever spent $4000 on me I would judge him negatively. Unless he's a millionaire he should not be spendin money recklessly like that hell no I'm not gonna date someone that gon spend like that lol i like Lenny and Adrienne's first date best
Adam knew upfront tamera is an actress* An most of them are, a custom to a certain lifestyle. It just added up over time.
Adam has money, his family has money. I'm pretty sure that 4,000 dollars didn't hurt his pocket too bad. Plus it was over a 4 month span of time.
Adam has a winery so he has a lot money plus it was over a four month time span nd he was the one that told Tamera to order whatever she wanted so he care
Thats why I said unless he's a millionaire geniuses
***** if you're measuring the wellness of your date by the amount of money he spent that is borderline golddigger. It is fine to no appreciate a man spending money on you if you grew up in a low income home and learned the value of a dollar.
" And the 8th course was me"
Yess Loni!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️
I agree with Tamar 💯
I love how high maintenance Tamar is because she is so honest about it and never back down from her opinion .
so what was Tamar"s first date? she busy knocking everybody else'
1:10 Jeannie’s reaction when Tam says Adam took her to PF Changs. She does not approve lol
All the ladies looking gorgeous today!
all I hear is money money money
Am i the only 1 that thinks first impressions dont matter? I mean, its very rare that someone will be completely theirselves with u when u just meet, and i dont expect them to be. Their true self and personality, whatever it may be, will be revealed as time goes by.. I dont even remember the first impression of most of the people i know
hair and makeup at the real is the best. I just have to say. and Tamar you look too beautiful
I'm with Tamar and I'd think I'd need a bathroom near by to hit up a friend if it all goes wrong. Whenever I go out with a dude for the first time I tell a friend & make sure I can hit them up once or twice throughout the date to check in bc people are crazy. If it's a picnic & I can see a public bathroom nearby we all good.
Exactly and you just met the person, He's a stranger and having them make something its just....to soon to trust them.
Don't know why people think Tamar is being shady. I agree with both of them. It's cute but not for a first. Tiny lil thang like me can get killed easily. Need to know the dude a few months in for that trust to soak in.
Jeanette How do any of you know that Freddie was a random stranger? If he pulled out ALL HER FAVORITE THINGS and he was a total stranger *obviously* she'd be creeped out. It's amazing how people criticize someone without using common sense. "Oh, but not on the first date." "Oh, but I need to know you first." If Freddie did something like this its pretty obvious the two were well acquainted before hand.
peacenothate When did I say Freddie was a random stranger? I didn't say anything negative about Jeannie or Freddie. I said I agree with Tamar because on a first date (whether I'm well acquainted with a guy or not) this is exactly what I do blahblahblah..I go to the bathroom check my hair, text my friends, whatever. & you know creeps aren't always strangers right? "It's amazing how people criticize someone without using common sense."
You need to check your hair and text your friends while on a date? Only one of those seems acceptable for someone beyond the age of 16. And it was pretty clear Tamar was disagreeing with Jeannie. So yes it is amazing how people criticize people without using common sense. But, to each their own.
Again, Tamar was ALWAYS throwin shade and being rude to Jeannie, and very disappointed in Loni for encouraging her.
They were hating on the picnic but thought the circus was a good date? Lmao. Picnics are the best. A man holding a basket, a blanket, and possibly flowers for you is everything. No dude who is after just your body would do such a thing for a girl.
Terrell quitting was the best thing he could have done for Tamar... Her looks have been on point lately!
I like that everyone doesn’t always agree with each other
I'm a big kid at heart so a fun date for me is a bowling alley, amusement park, skating rink (even tho I can't). Somewhere fun!!
Jeanie was lookin like I can get some better authentic Asian food at home
also loni is the one who isn't married or engaged and yet she thinks she knows the most about men. clearly you don't cause you can't keep none. #satisfiedandsinglemyass
I think it just depends on the woman in question and her expectations for the man who's taking her on the date. There is no wrong answer really. Some people feel more comfortable being wined and dined others enjoy the simpler, and thoughtful dates. Chill out hombres
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Im sorry but Tamar look like Joan Rivers (S.I.P) on this segment 😝😄😂
Looking a hot mess...lol
Yes she do...
kima B come on ma... I think she look very good actually. I realize that's not her hair but she is far from being a HOT mess.
Kev CThats your opinion. .dont make me look like a hater ...clean your glasses and read what i wrote. .
Its funny Smokee 1
Adrienne's Makeup is always on fleek!
Okay Tamar has been looking GOOD !!!! Se changed her makeup artist or what !?? Yes girl !!
I under what Tamar is saying .. I feel u girl..
my rule is: don't order something that you yourself can't afford. Also going to an expensive restaurant on a first date is so boring, i'd rather go to the circus like adrienne did.
I think it's just a big communication gap. Tamar is talking about a first date where you barely know the person, so the first date you are getting to know them. Therefore, the guy already knowing your favorite things is kind of weird
And a picnic is kind of a very intimate/comfortable date for someone you just met. Imagine going on a first date with someone you don't really know to a picnic and they know all this stuff about you...kinda weird. BUT Jeanie's first date with her man was different. They already knew a lot about each other and were comfortable with each other I guess because they always travel and are apart. So I figure phone conversations and skyping made them know a lot about each other before their real first date (how else will he know her favorite chocolate and sandwiches and drink, etc.) well without just straight up asking her. So yea I think they weren't understanding each other situations so that's were the issue came in.
Sometimes your topics are weird and not even neccesary for ne to watch but u guys entertain me so much. I love you Guys.
Ummmmm tf? All Adrienne did was mimic what Jeanie said... then they liked it lmao. A picnic is romantic as hell. Freddy is a catch!!!
I love how tamera understands where jeannie ist coming from while Tamar and Loni dont (i understand tamar Point) whether Adrienne ist havening No opinion about it. And offen sind i noticed that adrienne is a opportunist she Acts always nice to people she wants or benefit from. And when so. is getting bullied she wouldnt help that Person and be Just "neutral".
Tamar is funny, but she can be drama and petty at times.. I wish she would cut Jeannie a break. I am glad that Tamera (my fave) and Adrienne stood up for sweet Jeannie :)
They key is if the lady likes it...it is a good first date. Jeannie is creative so the extra touches are her thing.
Did Tamar change her makeup/stylist team coz she is looking real good these days..loving the look
Oooh Tamar was looking on point head to toe. BEST look for her the hair complemented her face,neck, and shoulders very well.
Shoutout to Freddy! I think the picnic idea was cute. Idk why they shaded Jeannie but not Adrienne.
First dates: rose garden & circus dates are fab 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
We went to church and then had fish tacos. Five years together, married for three. It's not about the silverware, Tamar.
For me I don't mind if it's in a fancy or a cheap restaurant at all.
I just want to feel the effort the he gives on our first date.
Now Tamar, lay off Jeanie!! I remember that pass snippet where someone was asked to give impressions of the girls and Jeanie's was a phrase that involved 'girlfriends' which we all know by now that she goes crazy over her 'girlfriends'! So with that said, maaaaybe she didn't have a girlfriend to call... ijs...Next, pertaining to what Adrienne said, maybe creativity is what does it for her..the fact that Freddy listened. Weren't they friends before they started dating? Jeeeeees!!
Oohh Tamar's hair and dress are on fleek. Love it!
I understand what Tamara is saying you don't want your first date to be super romantic . Because y'all just getting to know each other . And are seeing if your compatible . The whole picnic thing . That's something you do when you know for sure she's interested and you wanna be spontaneous . And charming and show her your really know her and things she likes .