My husband and I lived in Finland in some time ago (my husband is also Finnish) and I probably have a low intermediate level of vocabulary. But despite having lived in Finland, but I never learned to speak it. In English you only have to conjugate verbs. In Finnish, you have to conjugate everything - verbs, nouns, adjectives so you have to make decisions at every syllable - there is a zillion ways to bend every word. And just to add to the frustration, there is the puhekieli version of the language! I’m taking up studying Finnish again just as a hobby, for fun, mostly via you tube. It’s wonderful how many learning channels there are. I’m listening to Pipsa Possu, lessons on Gimara Oy, Finnished, Sina Osaat and others. RUclips has noticed that I follow a few Finnish learning channels and recommended your video to me.😊
Thank you for sharing your experience! And also for cool tips on how to learn finnish in RUclips. I hope other people who see your comment may discover those channels as well. I totally get your frustration with Finnish. I had it for many years 🙈 the confusion, the amount of ways every single word can be conjugate 🤪 I only started to get clarity and system after working with private teacher via skype. She made me rehearse common topics all over again until it sunk to the back bone by speaking about it and writing afterwards for homework. Also, it gives me some perspective that my 3 year old is speaking it very well 🤣 He learnt to speak in such a short time!
Hienoa Hyvin meni ! Kaikki ymmärsi sen mitä halusit sanoa ! Kuuntele suomalaista musiikkia jotta kuulet kieltä päivittäin ! Well Done & 10 Pistettä ja Papukaija merkki !
Nice sharing! I had been took similar Finnish course twice a week and it helped a lot. But at the end i took intensive course full time about 25 hours a week and training but still a lot of new things always comes to learn. Especially nearly every places have different slang as i used to live on Eastern part of Finland and frequently visit North and now moving to Middle part of Finland 😅 Joining Finnish club also help to develop our Finnish language skills
Thank you for sharing your experience. Honestly, I don’t have that much experience with different dialects in Finland because I only lived in Tampere and Helsinki. Plus I’m still speaking a written form of language and hope that my son will teach me Finnish slang along the way 😂 We joined Russian kids club, so my son can improve his Russian.
My Finnish language course started a couple of weeks ago. Since I work at the University as a PhD candidate, we speak English most of the time, because at least half of the staff comes from abroad. Nonetheless, I'm motivated by my passion for languages in general: I love the challenge of learning a new language (this is the 11th language I take a course for). At the supermarket or in several stores I've been to, some Finns don't even reply to me in English, which is useful even if I still don't understand the whole sentence. Thanks for the video!
Wow! Thank you for sharing! 11 courses?! How many languages do you speak now? I used to go swimming before work, around 6am. Usually at that hour in the pool were mostly elderly people who can not sleep and eager to talk. That was my moment to practice))))
@@gpsfamilyjournal7036 I wish I could still be able to speak all of them, but in the end I use 3 or 4 languages on a regular basis: Italian (mothertongue, doesn't count), English, Spanish and French. Then, I learnt the basis of Amharic, Somali, Arabic, Hebrew, Esperanto, German and Swahili. Now it's time to concentrate on Finnish 😊
I hope your family has been doing well. This is one of the channels I found during the lock downs early in the pandemic that, as I live alone and have no family, made the 6 months of loneliness bearable. I as well as many others would love to see an update video if possible. Regardless I truly want to thank you for allowing me to be part of your wonderful family and send my heartfelt wishes for a wonderful future..
Thank you so much for your kind comment❤️ it means a lot to me. When I started this channel there was barely any views and comments. It is heartwarming to know that it was meaningful for someone. It was certainly for us. I will try to get back to RUclips in the future with some more videos when I figure out our schedule.
Thank you, charming Galina, for this nice video. I got the pleasant feeling to know you a little now. Greetings and all the best wishes for learning Finnish, now that you have such a great reason for learning it. You will manage it well, and never mind perfectionism - communication is the idea! If you meet people who make fun of your mistakes, stop meeting them and find better friends. You will notice that most Finns are very patient and very aware that it is not so easy to learn a foreign language. It is as difficult both ways. Good luck and enjoy being a polyglot mom!
I love this! You've done really well, Galina - impressive! I understood you as well without subtitles 👍🏻 so I'm glad I still remember some Finnish. Totally agree with all your points about motivation etc and learning via speaking is definitely the way to go. A couple go questions; do you and Petri speak Finnish at home now? How's Petri's Russian language?
Oh, thank you so much! Now I’m impressed that after so many years and without daily practice you still remember Finnish! But of course, your whole family is Finnish 😊 We still speak English to each other. 🤷🏻♀️ Habbit? I tried to switch to Finnish, but it always gets back to English. Petri understands quite a lot more Russian now. Usually he understands what we speak with Sebi about. How is you Russian now? I feel like you are very good with languages
Ymmärrän kaiken mitä puhut ja vieläpä helposti. Suomessa on kaksi kieltä. Kirjakieli ja puhekieli. Kannattaa keskittyä puhekieleen ja mahdollisuuksien rajoissa koittaa vain puhua suomalaisten kanssa. Hyvin menee :D
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing your journey. I am just at the very beginning of it. I got curious about those courses that you are taking twice per week. I also live in Helsinki - could you direct me to those course? ) kiitos paljion!
Hi! I have posted a reply here before but it disappeared for some reason. May be links are not allowed? Here you can find courses www.kesayliopistohki.fi/en/news/enrollment-for-the-finnish-courses-starts-on-november-20th/ Good luck!
Puhut erinomaisesti! Tiesitkö muuten että Suomessa kirjastot järjestävät kielikahviloita joissa on mukava jutella juuri niistä aiheista jotka kiinnostavat sinua. Löydät tietoa niistä kirjastojen nettisivuilta. Kielikahviloita järjestetään myös etänä.
I think it's so RUDE when people laugh at others trying to learn a new language! I had a similar experience in a language school but it was the opettaja (teacher) who laughed at me. Good on you for sticking to your guns and picking up Finnish!
Thank you! I found through forums. Lessons were via Skype so I guess a teacher can be from any city. My lessons were 40€ per 1,5 hour back then. The prices now might be a bit different. It is a bit steep, especially if you do it twice a week, but I felt like it was an investment in my well-being in this country. So really happy with the result
I have to comment as I do think I am a bit of an expert in learning Finnish. 😁 I moved to Finland in 2006 and I was lucky enough to get a job right away. We spoke only English in the working place and it was even quite strict to only use English there. The result was I didn't learn Finnish at all. It is too easy to live and work in Finland using only English and that is why a lot of foreigners don't learn it or take many years to do it. My motivation was the fact that I had a degree in PE but the only way to get a job as a teacher is to speak Finnish, obviously. If you are registered as a job seeker in Finland you can get the opportunity to learn Finnish as a full time job. I had Finnish lessons 6 hours a day/5 days a week. It was my "job" for almost a year! After about 6 months I also got my degree recognized in Finland which meant I only needed the language and some experience to get my dream job. Even though I learned a lot in that full time course the next step is what helped me the most. I went as asked for a "job" in the local sports club. I asked if it would be OK to be with some group and just get the chance to help, no need to get payed or anything. I was very lucky the lady talking to me had an open mind and she offered me to be the official swimming teacher for a few groups. It was very stressful as I still didn't know enough Finnish back then but I started teaching small children how to swim. At the same time I kept my Finnish language course but being 3 hours a week with only children forced me to speak Finnish and that was very important. Sometimes I said the right thing, sometimes I made mistakes but I was forced to try it. Most of the time a grown-up who just learned Finnish will be embarrassed of saying the wrong thing or making mistakes. When talking to the kids I was still embarrassed and afraid to make mistakes but they would not understand unless I tried anyways. That half year with those kids is what gave me the courage to speak more and more. After that I started to work in a place where I also was talking to costumers all the time. A lot of foreigners have jobs where they can just speak English so you are nor required to use the Finnish language. To those people I suggest starting a new hobby or joining a club where there will be Finnish people. And make sure you tell them you are there to learn Finnish and try your best to stick to speaking Finnish. Finnish people are very polite and they will always try to talk to you in English to help you but they do appreciate when you try to speak Finnish. I think the "secret" is to force yourself into situations where you have to speak Finnish and don't be embarrassed or afraid to make mistakes. Those are also steps towards your goal. You would laugh about some of the mistakes I made. Some are really hilarious! 😁
Thank you so much for sharing your story! I totally agree with you about going through embarrassment stage 🤣 I’m still making so much mistakes but it doesn’t bother me much anymore. I think you found a perfect environment for practicing Finnish. Kids don’t mind your mistakes at all. My other friend learnt Finnish by working with elderly people. They have no rush and glad to listen while you forming a sentence for 10 minutes 😂 also they speak slower and don’t use much slang, which makes understanding part easier. I still speak English at work when we discuss something important, because I worry that I miss some important detail. But on coffee breaks I switch to Finnish. How many languages your kids speak now?
@@gpsfamilyjournal7036 My oldest one (10 years old) speaks Portuguese, Finnish and English fluently. Because we lived abroad we used to be able to communicate in Arabic but he forgot it already. My younger daughter also speaks Finnish and Portuguese (not to me though) and understands English. Kids are genius with languages 😊
Акцент не самое главное в изучении, но мне интересно то, что у вас по-фински с акцентом обстоят дела лучше, чем с английским. Хотя по-английски вы говорите намного лучше, чем на финском. Но думаю всё же у вас финский сильнее с точки зрения понимания, словарного запаса.
Minusta tuntuu että harvoin nostetaan esille, kuinka paljon itsekseen puhuminen ja laulaminen auttaa, kun haluaa pystyä puhumaan sujuvammin. Keskustele monta tuntia itsesi kanssa - suihkussa, kävelyllä, kun tiskaat, käy keskusteluja mieleikuvituksessasi! One should train for speed without thinking of grammar at all, just let the mistakes happen, and laugh about them. ничего серьезного! Silloin tällöin voit vilkaista listoja joissa on suomenkielen, englannin ja venäjän tavallisemmat sanat - niitä hallitsemalla puhuminen sujuu paljon helpommin. Always learn to use common phrases, long and short, before trying to translate your thoughts, word by word. Build what you want to talk about with prefabricated elements, in the same way as a Finnish wooden house is built nowadays. Katsopa ja kuuntele tarkkaan miten suomalainen nainen käyttää suun lihaksia kun hän puhuu - valitse sellainen nainen joka sinun mielestä puhuu kivasti. Vuosisatojen mittaan eri äänet ovat hiottu toisiinsa, kuten kivet rannalla. When I learned to speak fluent German and English, I learned about where in the mouth central sounds are produced by native speakers. It helped a lot to know that the English sounds for T and D are made further back than in Finnish and Swedish, where T touches the teeth. Finnish, to my mind is produced like rolling around the softspoken L's and S's and very clear A's. Like: "sallia, asua, Lasse, olla, nalle, saada, sana, osaan," etc Vertaa näitä: www.kotus.fi/nyt/kolumnit_artikkelit_ja_esitelmat/kieli-ikkuna_%281996_2010%29/suomen_yleisin_sana en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_common_words_in_English kun yritän oppia venäjää käytän myös tällaisia listoja: masterrussian.com/vocabulary/most_common_words.htm harjoittele erikseen, niin että osaat näitä sanoja myös suomeksi - puheessa ne viiltää nopeasti ohi, mutta niitten tehtävä on liittää yhteen muita sanoja lauseiksi. Erikseen = joskus toiste, muttei puhetilanteessa, jossa kommunikaatio ja toistensa ymmärtäminen on ainoa tärkeä tavoite, ja niin pitääkin olla.
My husband and I lived in Finland in some time ago (my husband is also Finnish) and I probably have a low intermediate level of vocabulary. But despite having lived in Finland, but I never learned to speak it. In English you only have to conjugate verbs. In Finnish, you have to conjugate everything - verbs, nouns, adjectives so you have to make decisions at every syllable - there is a zillion ways to bend every word. And just to add to the frustration, there is the puhekieli version of the language! I’m taking up studying Finnish again just as a hobby, for fun, mostly via you tube. It’s wonderful how many learning channels there are. I’m listening to Pipsa Possu, lessons on Gimara Oy, Finnished, Sina Osaat and others. RUclips has noticed that I follow a few Finnish learning channels and recommended your video to me.😊
Thank you for sharing your experience! And also for cool tips on how to learn finnish in RUclips. I hope other people who see your comment may discover those channels as well.
I totally get your frustration with Finnish. I had it for many years 🙈 the confusion, the amount of ways every single word can be conjugate 🤪
I only started to get clarity and system after working with private teacher via skype. She made me rehearse common topics all over again until it sunk to the back bone by speaking about it and writing afterwards for homework.
Also, it gives me some perspective that my 3 year old is speaking it very well 🤣 He learnt to speak in such a short time!
Hienoa Hyvin meni ! Kaikki ymmärsi sen mitä halusit sanoa ! Kuuntele suomalaista musiikkia jotta kuulet kieltä päivittäin ! Well Done & 10 Pistettä ja Papukaija merkki !
Kiitos paljon! Ja hyvä idea. Kiitos!
Speaking is one thing, actually understanding is quite another.
Nice sharing! I had been took similar Finnish course twice a week and it helped a lot. But at the end i took intensive course full time about 25 hours a week and training but still a lot of new things always comes to learn. Especially nearly every places have different slang as i used to live on Eastern part of Finland and frequently visit North and now moving to Middle part of Finland 😅
Joining Finnish club also help to develop our Finnish language skills
Thank you for sharing your experience. Honestly, I don’t have that much experience with different dialects in Finland because I only lived in Tampere and Helsinki. Plus I’m still speaking a written form of language and hope that my son will teach me Finnish slang along the way 😂
We joined Russian kids club, so my son can improve his Russian.
My Finnish language course started a couple of weeks ago. Since I work at the University as a PhD candidate, we speak English most of the time, because at least half of the staff comes from abroad. Nonetheless, I'm motivated by my passion for languages in general: I love the challenge of learning a new language (this is the 11th language I take a course for). At the supermarket or in several stores I've been to, some Finns don't even reply to me in English, which is useful even if I still don't understand the whole sentence.
Thanks for the video!
Wow! Thank you for sharing! 11 courses?! How many languages do you speak now?
I used to go swimming before work, around 6am. Usually at that hour in the pool were mostly elderly people who can not sleep and eager to talk. That was my moment to practice))))
@@gpsfamilyjournal7036 I wish I could still be able to speak all of them, but in the end I use 3 or 4 languages on a regular basis: Italian (mothertongue, doesn't count), English, Spanish and French. Then, I learnt the basis of Amharic, Somali, Arabic, Hebrew, Esperanto, German and Swahili. Now it's time to concentrate on Finnish 😊
Wow!!! Amazing!
I hope your family has been doing well. This is one of the channels I found during the lock downs early in the pandemic that, as I live alone and have no family, made the 6 months of loneliness bearable. I as well as many others would love to see an update video if possible. Regardless I truly want to thank you for allowing me to be part of your wonderful family and send my heartfelt wishes for a wonderful future..
Thank you so much for your kind comment❤️ it means a lot to me.
When I started this channel there was barely any views and comments. It is heartwarming to know that it was meaningful for someone. It was certainly for us.
I will try to get back to RUclips in the future with some more videos when I figure out our schedule.
Thank you, charming Galina, for this nice video. I got the pleasant feeling to know you a little now. Greetings and all the best wishes for learning Finnish, now that you have such a great reason for learning it. You will manage it well, and never mind perfectionism - communication is the idea! If you meet people who make fun of your mistakes, stop meeting them and find better friends. You will notice that most Finns are very patient and very aware that it is not so easy to learn a foreign language. It is as difficult both ways. Good luck and enjoy being a polyglot mom!
Thank you so much for your kind comment and all the brilliant tips! 🙏🏻
@@gpsfamilyjournal7036 My pleasure!
@@gpsfamilyjournal7036 My pleasure - eipä kestä!
I love this! You've done really well, Galina - impressive! I understood you as well without subtitles 👍🏻 so I'm glad I still remember some Finnish. Totally agree with all your points about motivation etc and learning via speaking is definitely the way to go. A couple go questions; do you and Petri speak Finnish at home now? How's Petri's Russian language?
Oh, thank you so much!
Now I’m impressed that after so many years and without daily practice you still remember Finnish! But of course, your whole family is Finnish 😊
We still speak English to each other. 🤷🏻♀️ Habbit? I tried to switch to Finnish, but it always gets back to English.
Petri understands quite a lot more Russian now. Usually he understands what we speak with Sebi about.
How is you Russian now? I feel like you are very good with languages
Great video! I like the way you explained it so clearly
Thank you 🙏🏻
@@gpsfamilyjournal7036 my pleasure. ;-)
Inspiring journey..
Ymmärrän kaiken mitä puhut ja vieläpä helposti. Suomessa on kaksi kieltä. Kirjakieli ja puhekieli. Kannattaa keskittyä puhekieleen ja mahdollisuuksien rajoissa koittaa vain puhua suomalaisten kanssa. Hyvin menee :D
I also feel that I need to speak, I have been studying but no motivation to speak at all. Thanks for your video, was very enlightening.
I feel you. It’s hard to start speaking. But without live speech the language is not alive. Good luck!
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing your journey. I am just at the very beginning of it. I got curious about those courses that you are taking twice per week. I also live in Helsinki - could you direct me to those course? ) kiitos paljion!
Hi! I have posted a reply here before but it disappeared for some reason. May be links are not allowed?
Here you can find courses www.kesayliopistohki.fi/en/news/enrollment-for-the-finnish-courses-starts-on-november-20th/
Good luck!
Молодец! Так держать! Мы гордимся тобой!
Спасибо 😊
Hello :) hope you are keeping well this crazy year!
Puhut erinomaisesti! Tiesitkö muuten että Suomessa kirjastot järjestävät kielikahviloita joissa on mukava jutella juuri niistä aiheista jotka kiinnostavat sinua. Löydät tietoa niistä kirjastojen nettisivuilta. Kielikahviloita järjestetään myös etänä.
Kiitos! Erinomainen idea! ♥️
Puhut ihan hyvää suomea. Hyvin selkeää. Kaikki tekevät virheitä, äidinkielisetkin. Suomessa kielten opetus painottuu muutenkin liikaa kielioppiin.
Nice video good to me
I think it's so RUDE when people laugh at others trying to learn a new language! I had a similar experience in a language school but it was the opettaja (teacher) who laughed at me. Good on you for sticking to your guns and picking up Finnish!
Love you and your channel 💞go a head.. Could you please let me know how you found personal teacher and is that expensive?
Thank you!
I found through forums. Lessons were via Skype so I guess a teacher can be from any city.
My lessons were 40€ per 1,5 hour back then. The prices now might be a bit different. It is a bit steep, especially if you do it twice a week, but I felt like it was an investment in my well-being in this country. So really happy with the result
Ееееееййй! 👏👏👏
Спасибо 😘😘😘😘😘
I have to comment as I do think I am a bit of an expert in learning Finnish. 😁
I moved to Finland in 2006 and I was lucky enough to get a job right away. We spoke only English in the working place and it was even quite strict to only use English there. The result was I didn't learn Finnish at all.
It is too easy to live and work in Finland using only English and that is why a lot of foreigners don't learn it or take many years to do it.
My motivation was the fact that I had a degree in PE but the only way to get a job as a teacher is to speak Finnish, obviously.
If you are registered as a job seeker in Finland you can get the opportunity to learn Finnish as a full time job. I had Finnish lessons 6 hours a day/5 days a week. It was my "job" for almost a year! After about 6 months I also got my degree recognized in Finland which meant I only needed the language and some experience to get my dream job.
Even though I learned a lot in that full time course the next step is what helped me the most.
I went as asked for a "job" in the local sports club. I asked if it would be OK to be with some group and just get the chance to help, no need to get payed or anything. I was very lucky the lady talking to me had an open mind and she offered me to be the official swimming teacher for a few groups. It was very stressful as I still didn't know enough Finnish back then but I started teaching small children how to swim. At the same time I kept my Finnish language course but being 3 hours a week with only children forced me to speak Finnish and that was very important. Sometimes I said the right thing, sometimes I made mistakes but I was forced to try it. Most of the time a grown-up who just learned Finnish will be embarrassed of saying the wrong thing or making mistakes. When talking to the kids I was still embarrassed and afraid to make mistakes but they would not understand unless I tried anyways. That half year with those kids is what gave me the courage to speak more and more.
After that I started to work in a place where I also was talking to costumers all the time. A lot of foreigners have jobs where they can just speak English so you are nor required to use the Finnish language. To those people I suggest starting a new hobby or joining a club where there will be Finnish people. And make sure you tell them you are there to learn Finnish and try your best to stick to speaking Finnish. Finnish people are very polite and they will always try to talk to you in English to help you but they do appreciate when you try to speak Finnish.
I think the "secret" is to force yourself into situations where you have to speak Finnish and don't be embarrassed or afraid to make mistakes. Those are also steps towards your goal. You would laugh about some of the mistakes I made. Some are really hilarious! 😁
Thank you so much for sharing your story! I totally agree with you about going through embarrassment stage 🤣 I’m still making so much mistakes but it doesn’t bother me much anymore.
I think you found a perfect environment for practicing Finnish. Kids don’t mind your mistakes at all.
My other friend learnt Finnish by working with elderly people. They have no rush and glad to listen while you forming a sentence for 10 minutes 😂 also they speak slower and don’t use much slang, which makes understanding part easier.
I still speak English at work when we discuss something important, because I worry that I miss some important detail. But on coffee breaks I switch to Finnish.
How many languages your kids speak now?
@@gpsfamilyjournal7036 My oldest one (10 years old) speaks Portuguese, Finnish and English fluently. Because we lived abroad we used to be able to communicate in Arabic but he forgot it already.
My younger daughter also speaks Finnish and Portuguese (not to me though) and understands English. Kids are genius with languages 😊
That’s awesome! I guess they are so good at it because they don’t learn grammar ))) they just start to speak
так сразу и подумала, что вы русская)
Акцент не самое главное в изучении, но мне интересно то, что у вас по-фински с акцентом обстоят дела лучше, чем с английским. Хотя по-английски вы говорите намного лучше, чем на финском. Но думаю всё же у вас финский сильнее с точки зрения понимания, словарного запаса.
Финский я учила здесь, слушая финнов. А английский - везде. Наверное и акцент такой
Minusta tuntuu että harvoin nostetaan esille, kuinka paljon itsekseen puhuminen ja laulaminen auttaa, kun haluaa pystyä puhumaan sujuvammin. Keskustele monta tuntia itsesi kanssa - suihkussa, kävelyllä, kun tiskaat, käy keskusteluja mieleikuvituksessasi!
One should train for speed without thinking of grammar at all, just let the mistakes happen, and laugh about them.
ничего серьезного!
Silloin tällöin voit vilkaista listoja joissa on suomenkielen, englannin ja venäjän tavallisemmat sanat - niitä hallitsemalla puhuminen sujuu paljon helpommin.
Always learn to use common phrases, long and short, before trying to translate your thoughts, word by word. Build what you want to talk about with prefabricated elements, in the same way as a Finnish wooden house is built nowadays.
Katsopa ja kuuntele tarkkaan miten suomalainen nainen käyttää suun lihaksia kun hän puhuu - valitse sellainen nainen joka sinun mielestä puhuu kivasti. Vuosisatojen mittaan eri äänet ovat hiottu toisiinsa, kuten kivet rannalla.
When I learned to speak fluent German and English, I learned about where in the mouth central sounds are produced by native speakers. It helped a lot to know that the English sounds for T and D are made further back than in Finnish and Swedish, where T touches the teeth.
Finnish, to my mind is produced like rolling around the softspoken L's and S's and very clear A's. Like: "sallia, asua, Lasse, olla, nalle, saada, sana, osaan," etc
Vertaa näitä:
www.kotus.fi/nyt/kolumnit_artikkelit_ja_esitelmat/kieli-ikkuna_%281996_2010%29/suomen_yleisin_sana
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_common_words_in_English
kun yritän oppia venäjää käytän myös tällaisia listoja:
masterrussian.com/vocabulary/most_common_words.htm
harjoittele erikseen, niin että osaat näitä sanoja myös suomeksi - puheessa ne viiltää nopeasti ohi, mutta niitten tehtävä on liittää yhteen muita sanoja lauseiksi. Erikseen = joskus toiste, muttei puhetilanteessa, jossa kommunikaatio ja toistensa ymmärtäminen on ainoa tärkeä tavoite, ja niin pitääkin olla.
Brilliant! 🙏🏻
@@gpsfamilyjournal7036