I wonder if 35-85 would be more useful. As I see many wedding photographer carry two body paried with 35 and 85 prime. Now with 35-85 f2.0 you even got 50mm. and now the other body can pair with 24mm prime.
Well... you do get 35mm in this case. And there is quite insignificant difference between 70 and 85 portrait wise. So, 35-85 f/2.0 would not make any sense at this stage.
Obviously everyone is waiting for 70-150 f/2. Which is being rumored for many years already for Canon at least. 35-150 f/2 or 70-200 f/2 will be too big, ridiculously heavy and with associated cost as $6-7k. While 70-150 f/2 will take size of 70-200 f/2.8 and "standard" cost of $3.5-4k
@@olegsafronov9936false statement he actually has a great idea. 35mm is my favorite lens. I shot weddings with just a 35 for 3 years with 1 rare occasion I had to rent a 70-200 for a catholic wedding. 85 is the most popular portrait lens length. Pairing another body with a 16,24, or 135 when needed is brilliant because the main body with the 35-85 will be your work horse.
@@fashopimpin I mean. It's false the same way as yours. Just your personal preference and wish. I'm sharing the actual rumored plans as well as way more realistic priorities. Canon won't do 35-85 f/2 at this stage.
Canon user here. Not jealous in the least! Happy seeing that Sony was able to innovate with a smaller, lighter, and perhaps sharper lens. Hopefully Canon will use this to improve it's mark 2 version of the lens, then Sony (or other brands), and so on. Good for these companies to keep each other on their toes!
Was considering sigma 28-45 f1.8 for interviews shoot but is concern about 45mm being too short. Now Sony has solved my dilemma by releasing this lens. Now the next problem is the 86mm filter size. I cannot use my VND or black mist filter!!!
I do a lot of event photography and I would say that the Tamron 35-150mm f2-2.8 is the best one. My only issue with it is that it weighs a lot but considering the quality and versitality I get with it, it's worth it.
I typically shoot canon for my wedding films, and the RF version is my go to. The only place it lacks is at times you’ll need a wider angle lens, but 90% of my day can be shot on this (ignoring longer focal lengths for speeches), but I have shot 70mm 4k and just zoomed in for tighter ceremony shots and it’s been fine. 1lb lighter makes me consider switching. The RF version is exhausting.
Man this is incredible. I don't mind 28mm at all. This will be my new wedding-day workhorse (as soon as I can afford it - you can survive with just one kidney, right?)
Great lens! But I noticed that even in darker reception venues shooting at 12,800, I still need to use 1-2 stops ND indoors on a 2.8 lens, so the added lowlight is not needed
Matt, when I’ve used zoom lenses before I’ve had a sneaky feeling it takes the camera stabilisation a bit of time to adjust to stabilise for the new focal length when zooming. This was third party lens too, the Sigma 35-150mm to be exact. Was it just in my head or you think my theory might have legs? Either way, did you feel stabilisation worked well with this lens handheld?
Matt! Would you kindly review the tamron 28-75 lens. Not only is it around 500 grams but it’s f2.8. Can be balanced at 50 mm to zoom in our out. Has great sharpness for video. And only comes in at around $899.
well, he was gushing about the weight of the Sony compared to the Canon. He should just compare the weight of the Sony (900+ gram) against the Tamron (500 gram). Yes, it's F2 against F2.8, but with the weight savings of about 400g, it's worth it.
So everyone that reviewed this lens was told to they must reference its way lighter than canon ? But were they also told that the canon R5ii at 4200 is better than the 6500 A1 ii ? I guess they were not told that part .
hey Matt this is kinda off topic but i had a slight problem using my fx3 and wanted to ask you. i was filming a wedding the other day and my fx3 literally froze mid recording. the screen was stuck on one frame and i couldn't press ANY button. only way to reset the camera was to take the battery out which corrupted the video. thankfully, i had a second angle recording. i was shooting with a 512 v60 lexar sd card on 4k 60, 10bit 200M standard pic profile with original sony battery and the camera was connected to power via usb c. do you have any idea what's wrong? it got me worrying bc i literally bought this camera brand new a few months ago. during the time of this incident i was on VER 3.00 but i have now updated to VER 6.00. it hasn’t happened yet but i’m still kind of concerned
@ no it was the sony g master 24-70. i contacted sony but they advised me to update the camera which i did but still, a camera at that expense should not be stopping mid recording
I can't believe that 4K recording is still subsampled or line skipped and not 8K oversampled like in the Nikon Z8 (8.3K oversampled 4K60p) or in the R5 (4K Fine oversampled from 8K up to 30p). The only oversampled 4K mode in the a1 II is the cropped APS-C mode. A flagship should be able to record full-width 8K oversampled 4K60p or at the very least 30p!
@ I copy/pasted the same comment under at least 10 videos. I‘m trying to point out the exact same thing so I didn’t feel the need to change it up. But you’re right this video technically didn’t cover the a1 ii. This lens was released alongside the a1 ii though. My reasoning behind it was simple. I hoped to reach as many people as possible and possibly even someone from Sony looking through these comments. I like Sony but it feels like they didn’t try very hard with this camera. It changes about as much as Nikon changes with a firmware update for the Nikon Z8 which is kinda underwhelming
@@jonasgillmann wtf you are doing. just buy the one that you liked the most and thats it. Stop spending time with useless things. Every brand needs our money, and you, as a consumer, should buy the one you prefer. Instead of doing this.... you are flooding the same coment in several videos.
I want to laugh at many of the comments here. Instead of celebrating this new lens, people are talking about why there isn't a 35-85mm or 70-200mm f/2 lens.🤣 Or some felt "cheated" it's not a 24-70mm f/2. Guys, there are many obstacles to making lenses. It's the design, practicality, price, lens defects to correct, etc to consider. If Sony had made a 35-85mm lens, I'm sure some will complain it wasn't wide enough. Haha..... I feel the sweet spot has always been the 24-70mm or 28-70mm in a standard lens. Photographers have relied on this range for the longest time. In fact, when I started out in photography decades ago, the 35-70mm was the standard! Aperture? f/3.5 to 5.6. No one complained much back then. We were engrossed with taking great pictures. No one took photos of lens boxes and post them online! Be contented with what manufacturers are churning out today. You guys don't know how lucky you are!
Tamron 35 150 is 1150sh gr, and is 2.2 at 60. It costs half the price or less. And it goes to 150 at... 2.8. of course the flare is... let's say "different", but at the end there is no comparison imho. 24 f2 would have been a different league and story.
Cool lens, sure! Necessary? Not really... But with cameras having dual base iso, we shoot at F4 or higher anyway. . These types of lenses are more for photogs. But on the photog side, they rather just bring the primes of their choice. So yeah, cool lens but there are existing lenses that have more utility.
I just don't get why they do 28-70, anything between 50 and 85 is weird Why not 24-50, f1.8, it will probably cost them less to make Out of it you get 24 f1.8, 35 f1.8 and 50 f1.8, then your other camera can prime 85mm, easyyyy
they had to do 28-70.. if it was 24-70 - the regular other lenses with 2.8 would drop in sales so hard... oh i listened longer and then heard the price and fell of my chair
I think a 24 to 70 lens would have worked really well for wedding photographers. It would make it easier to have one versatile lens on the camera throughout the day. I think with this particular option there will still be situations when you need to swap out lenses.
Nice approach but it feels like copy & paste from Canon. They should have dared to innovate themselves. A better alternative for me as a filmmaker would be the 24-70 GM II or 35-150 Tamron. Sony could have made a 35-85 F2 or a 24-50 F2, which they unfortunately fucked up with the 2.8 version. Everyone has to know for themselves. Unfortunately, it's too expensive for me. I prefer to stick with my prime lenses from 35 - 50 - 85 1.4
And so? They sent him the lens only for the review and this is actually important for the channel. The lens is actually good, almost flawless. What could he say? He shared his opinion in the full respect of his audience and the manufacturer. And I can sense he is a good guy. Go Matt! Stay strong and cheers from Italy! Gian
"Throwing the Gauntlet"....aka, catching up to 7 year technology already achieved by your competitors. 24-70 gmii is still superior, in basically every category. The F2 bokeh / iso difference is almost completely negligible. The 4mm difference, lighter weight and price far exceed this minor offset of F2. You didn't even compare the 2.8 vs the 2? Which is the real comparison, not the Canon. Just another hype lens.
Do you even do photography? 2 vs 2.8 is a large step in bokeh and iso. Lock your shutter speed and take one shot at 2.0, then one at 2.8 and check your iso. It’s a full stop.
I had the opportunity to shoot a wedding with it, thoroughly enjoyed it! Never really missed the 4mm on the wide end and the weight was amazing!
Awesome review Matt!
I wonder if 35-85 would be more useful. As I see many wedding photographer carry two body paried with 35 and 85 prime. Now with 35-85 f2.0 you even got 50mm. and now the other body can pair with 24mm prime.
This is why so many wedding photographers swear by the 35-150
Well... you do get 35mm in this case. And there is quite insignificant difference between 70 and 85 portrait wise. So, 35-85 f/2.0 would not make any sense at this stage.
Obviously everyone is waiting for 70-150 f/2. Which is being rumored for many years already for Canon at least. 35-150 f/2 or 70-200 f/2 will be too big, ridiculously heavy and with associated cost as $6-7k. While 70-150 f/2 will take size of 70-200 f/2.8 and "standard" cost of $3.5-4k
@@olegsafronov9936false statement he actually has a great idea. 35mm is my favorite lens. I shot weddings with just a 35 for 3 years with 1 rare occasion I had to rent a 70-200 for a catholic wedding. 85 is the most popular portrait lens length. Pairing another body with a 16,24, or 135 when needed is brilliant because the main body with the 35-85 will be your work horse.
@@fashopimpin I mean. It's false the same way as yours. Just your personal preference and wish. I'm sharing the actual rumored plans as well as way more realistic priorities. Canon won't do 35-85 f/2 at this stage.
Canon user here. Not jealous in the least! Happy seeing that Sony was able to innovate with a smaller, lighter, and perhaps sharper lens. Hopefully Canon will use this to improve it's mark 2 version of the lens, then Sony (or other brands), and so on. Good for these companies to keep each other on their toes!
Was considering sigma 28-45 f1.8 for interviews shoot but is concern about 45mm being too short. Now Sony has solved my dilemma by releasing this lens.
Now the next problem is the 86mm filter size. I cannot use my VND or black mist filter!!!
Always good to see a Matt Johnson review, great work as usual!
I would love to see you test out the sony 20mm f 1.8 lens.
I do a lot of event photography and I would say that the Tamron 35-150mm f2-2.8 is the best one. My only issue with it is that it weighs a lot but considering the quality and versitality I get with it, it's worth it.
I typically shoot canon for my wedding films, and the RF version is my go to. The only place it lacks is at times you’ll need a wider angle lens, but 90% of my day can be shot on this (ignoring longer focal lengths for speeches), but I have shot 70mm 4k and just zoomed in for tighter ceremony shots and it’s been fine.
1lb lighter makes me consider switching. The RF version is exhausting.
Man this is incredible. I don't mind 28mm at all. This will be my new wedding-day workhorse (as soon as I can afford it - you can survive with just one kidney, right?)
I’d totally save for this over the 85mm which I don’t have but rented and found I didn’t really need for my specific kit since I have the 70-200
Great lens! But I noticed that even in darker reception venues shooting at 12,800, I still need to use 1-2 stops ND indoors on a 2.8 lens, so the added lowlight is not needed
How is it on gimbal? Is it to heavy? Is gimbal getting out of balance if you extend lens?
Standard zoom was starting at 35mm then change to 28 and then change to 24. So eventually the 28-70 f2.0 will start at 24mm.
Great review Matt as usual. This looks like a winner.
Any idea when they will release this? I may of missed it in the video?
Hello Matt, can we hear your feedback on the Comica VM40. Your vivid and candid review has been my guide in buying new gears for what I do. 💐
Matt, when I’ve used zoom lenses before I’ve had a sneaky feeling it takes the camera stabilisation a bit of time to adjust to stabilise for the new focal length when zooming. This was third party lens too, the Sigma 35-150mm to be exact.
Was it just in my head or you think my theory might have legs?
Either way, did you feel stabilisation worked well with this lens handheld?
I love how it’s bigger finally all the lens were making my camera looks smaller
Next they should make an aps-c equivalent 18-55 f2 for my fx30.
Yes please.. but for sony APSC also. 16-55 would be the dream
@@ejm12345 what do you mean sony apsc? :D
Matt! Would you kindly review the tamron 28-75 lens. Not only is it around 500 grams but it’s f2.8. Can be balanced at 50 mm to zoom in our out.
Has great sharpness for video. And only comes in at around $899.
well, he was gushing about the weight of the Sony compared to the Canon. He should just compare the weight of the Sony (900+ gram) against the Tamron (500 gram). Yes, it's F2 against F2.8, but with the weight savings of about 400g, it's worth it.
That lens 5 years old. Plenty of reviews out there. I still use mine here and there.
So everyone that reviewed this lens was told to they must reference its way lighter than canon ?
But were they also told that the canon R5ii at 4200 is better than the 6500 A1 ii ?
I guess they were not told that part .
hey Matt this is kinda off topic but i had a slight problem using my fx3 and wanted to ask you. i was filming a wedding the other day and my fx3 literally froze mid recording. the screen was stuck on one frame and i couldn't press ANY button. only way to reset the camera was to take the battery out which corrupted the video. thankfully, i had a second angle recording. i was shooting with a 512 v60 lexar sd card on 4k 60, 10bit 200M standard pic profile with original sony battery and the camera was connected to power via usb c. do you have any idea what's wrong? it got me worrying bc i literally bought this camera brand new a few months ago. during the time of this incident i was on VER 3.00 but i have now updated to VER 6.00. it hasn’t happened yet but i’m still kind of concerned
Were you using an adapted lens?
@ no it was the sony g master 24-70. i contacted sony but they advised me to update the camera which i did but still, a camera at that expense should not be stopping mid recording
@@slipco1857 Is V60 a bit slow for 4K 60p 10bit 200m. I would get some Sony CFA cards , absolutely worth the investment .
Shout out to that fly around 1:25 to 1:40
Already can't seem to find ND filters with an 86 thread size
You’ll want to go up to 95mm
The game changes foreverrrrr
I can't believe that 4K recording is still subsampled or line skipped and not 8K oversampled like in the Nikon Z8 (8.3K oversampled 4K60p) or in the R5 (4K Fine oversampled from 8K up to 30p).
The only oversampled 4K mode in the a1 II is the cropped APS-C mode. A flagship should be able to record full-width 8K oversampled 4K60p or at the very least 30p!
Did you leave a comment about the 28-70 f2 on his a1 ii video too or nah?
@ I copy/pasted the same comment under at least 10 videos. I‘m trying to point out the exact same thing so I didn’t feel the need to change it up. But you’re right this video technically didn’t cover the a1 ii. This lens was released alongside the a1 ii though.
My reasoning behind it was simple. I hoped to reach as many people as possible and possibly even someone from Sony looking through these comments. I like Sony but it feels like they didn’t try very hard with this camera. It changes about as much as Nikon changes with a firmware update for the Nikon Z8 which is kinda underwhelming
@@jonasgillmann wtf you are doing. just buy the one that you liked the most and thats it. Stop spending time with useless things. Every brand needs our money, and you, as a consumer, should buy the one you prefer. Instead of doing this.... you are flooding the same coment in several videos.
Another great video Matt! I've been looking at a faster lens for my FX6 and think this might be the one!
Would pair very well with the FX6!
@@whoismattyeah but it’s not having IS so far
I want to laugh at many of the comments here. Instead of celebrating this new lens, people are talking about why there isn't a 35-85mm or 70-200mm f/2 lens.🤣 Or some felt "cheated" it's not a 24-70mm f/2.
Guys, there are many obstacles to making lenses. It's the design, practicality, price, lens defects to correct, etc to consider.
If Sony had made a 35-85mm lens, I'm sure some will complain it wasn't wide enough. Haha.....
I feel the sweet spot has always been the 24-70mm or 28-70mm in a standard lens. Photographers have relied on this range for the longest time. In fact, when I started out in photography decades ago, the 35-70mm was the standard! Aperture? f/3.5 to 5.6. No one complained much back then. We were engrossed with taking great pictures. No one took photos of lens boxes and post them online!
Be contented with what manufacturers are churning out today. You guys don't know how lucky you are!
oh Lordy they did great with that--but man 86thread means all my 82mm are useless!
Are you getting one Matt...
In the netherlands it costs €3600. That's a lot of money
It looks so enticing, but i have to stay strong and hope Sony announces a 24-105mm F2.8 next year. Sony please i'm begging you haha.
It’s over 3k in the UK. Nope.
I’m still jealous of canon glass… 24-105mm F2.8 is needed, Sony!
I think the problem is the weight 230 more grams from 24-70 is real problem for hands shooting
Tamron 35 150 is 1150sh gr, and is 2.2 at 60. It costs half the price or less. And it goes to 150 at... 2.8. of course the flare is... let's say "different", but at the end there is no comparison imho. 24 f2 would have been a different league and story.
I dont like that they sacrifice 4mm on the wide angle side, for aperture. Does anyone really need that?
Why not 1.8? 😂😂😂
… 1.4, even better and much cooler imo! 😏
@@TW-iu9zy I want my 8-1200mm f/0.95 pancake lens
Sony taking my money before spending it on Christmas presents -.-
Cool lens, sure! Necessary? Not really... But with cameras having dual base iso, we shoot at F4 or higher anyway. . These types of lenses are more for photogs. But on the photog side, they rather just bring the primes of their choice. So yeah, cool lens but there are existing lenses that have more utility.
I just don't get why they do 28-70, anything between 50 and 85 is weird
Why not 24-50, f1.8, it will probably cost them less to make
Out of it you get 24 f1.8, 35 f1.8 and 50 f1.8, then your other camera can prime 85mm, easyyyy
The last time Sony made a 24-50mm lens, it was crucified by the internet.
they had to do 28-70.. if it was 24-70 - the regular other lenses with 2.8 would drop in sales so hard... oh i listened longer and then heard the price and fell of my chair
The glass element would have been way bigger if it started at 24mm.
The technology isn’t there yet to make a 24-70 f2 and keep the diameter below 90mm
$2800 hell no I'll pass I'll wait for Tamron or Sigma to come out with one similar for half the price
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Beautiful lens but $2,800??
I'm out!! 😂
I think a 24 to 70 lens would have worked really well for wedding photographers. It would make it easier to have one versatile lens on the camera throughout the day. I think with this particular option there will still be situations when you need to swap out lenses.
$2,898.00 😆😆😆 this is cool
Sony copying Canon again. What’s the point of always playing it safe? Should have made it 24-50mm or 20-50mm instead
… like Canon copying Sony with the stacked sensor? 😏 Oh wait, copying sensor technology is different, right?
It might be 24-70 f2
… yes, yes, so, so less cool lenses from Sony. It’s a shame! I can’t work with all the normal GM lenses! 😂😂😂
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Nice approach but it feels like copy & paste from Canon. They should have dared to innovate themselves.
A better alternative for me as a filmmaker would be the 24-70 GM II or 35-150 Tamron.
Sony could have made a 35-85 F2 or a 24-50 F2, which they unfortunately fucked up with the 2.8 version.
Everyone has to know for themselves. Unfortunately, it's too expensive for me. I prefer to stick with my prime lenses from 35 - 50 - 85 1.4
but it come out 6 years later, cmon , I hope they made it lighter
And only £3,000, bargain
lol we have different wants for a "cool" lens... I'm just over here waiting for a 100-300 2.8 😭
Beautiful lense…not so beautiful price.
Canons actually $500 cheaper 😢
… it‘s the cash back for the higher weight! 😄
sounded so much like a fan boy....
Cause I am one 😜
And so? They sent him the lens only for the review and this is actually important for the channel. The lens is actually good, almost flawless. What could he say? He shared his opinion in the full respect of his audience and the manufacturer. And I can sense he is a good guy. Go Matt! Stay strong and cheers from Italy! Gian
Meh, If you need a $3000 lens to make your footage look good, your doing something wrong.
Use your kit lens then
@@DoubleTheDom💀💀💀😂😂
@@DoubleTheDom😂 😂😂
"Throwing the Gauntlet"....aka, catching up to 7 year technology already achieved by your competitors. 24-70 gmii is still superior, in basically every category. The F2 bokeh / iso difference is almost completely negligible. The 4mm difference, lighter weight and price far exceed this minor offset of F2. You didn't even compare the 2.8 vs the 2? Which is the real comparison, not the Canon. Just another hype lens.
Do you even do photography? 2 vs 2.8 is a large step in bokeh and iso. Lock your shutter speed and take one shot at 2.0, then one at 2.8 and check your iso. It’s a full stop.