The Worst of the Classic Sonic Games
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2020
- Sonic CD is often touted as the best Sonic game ever, so today we're gonna investigate how one of the worst Sonic games ever eluded the jaws of reality and snuck itself into that category.
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To paraphrase Scott the Woz, Sonic CD was considered the hidden gem of classic Sonic, and then it became more readily available.
Such a great summery
Worst is that I just watched this video a few hours ago and just saw Alex's video about it
This whole video can be described well by “To paraphrase Scott the Woz.”
To be honest CD is on my top 5 ngl
I mean, it was on Sonic GEMS collection so that makes sense.
With that intro, it looks like somebody other than SEGA knows how to use nostalgia.
ThePickleMan 69th like
i _felt_ that
If he used his 2014-2015 intro and the outro, THAT would be some real nostalgia
For a second, I thought Monika would be in the video. Next time...
Ever heard of Nintendo? They just LOVE to shove nostalgia down your throat!
gonna capture future Alax by putting Persona 5 on the end of a stick
Persona 5 : 🧀
Me: 🐀
Yes
get the spray bottle
Alax: *o o h a n i m e*
Tried it, I caught a dude named alex who then punched me
Sonic 1, 2, and CD feel connected in a strange way, each prioritizing one element. 1 prioritized platforming, 2 prioritized speed, and CD prioritized exploration. Sonic 3K would go on to mix all three of these elements, and succeed. That is why it is considered the best classic game generally.
Cool
Especially since none of these mastered it(especially CD) so 3 did it way better
what the hell i have never seen more bs anywhere why does everyone try to paint sonic 3AK in the best way possible its not that good 💀 hate me if you want, its my opinion
@@Flumptys_Plus Do you have a defense as to why?
@@Flumptys_Plus sonic 2 fan alert sonic 2 fan alert
The true worst thing about this game is the secret soundtrack code that shows you a creepy picture of sonic with a wired mask
Well, I’ve been trying to forget that, so thanks for letting me know he didn’t cover it in the video
It’s not like that photo will kill me at a dinner party or anything, so it’s fine!
Its really not that scary
With either soundtrack. But it might be because I look at it at day but I doubt it
It's creepy for the US soundtrack.
It’s a joke but first Japan and second America
love or hate it
everyone agrees that the osts are great
That's like...
Every sonic game
@@lay-lowandsmash1519 counterpoint: sonic chronicles
@@lay-lowandsmash1519 But like... EXTRA great
@@ToxicAtom Other counterpoint: Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
All sonic games have at the very least mostly good songs.
People: Sonic CD is the worst classic sonic game.
Knuckles Chaotix: *allow us to introduce ourselves.*
Sonic CD is actually secretly the best.
sonic 2 gamegear: “looks like a job for me”
Me: *You can’t introduce yourself since i’ve never had the chance to play you.* Meanwhile CD has rereleases for people to be able to play it. So CD to me is still the worst classic sonic game.
@@Sonic171K I actually think it's the best classic sonic game and doesn't nearly have as much annoying stuff in it as much as the other ones. I think people are just nostalgic blind for the more popular ones they grew up with which had the same if not more issues in them.
@@AndroidHarris no its not
"Would you like to play a game set on a Salvador Dalí painting?"
Yes, it's called LSD Dream Emulator. And it's art.
The Palmtree Panic boss being easy is actually sort of an intentional joke- the mech is named EGG-HVC-001, with HVC-001 being the model number of the original Famicom- this weak boss sort of being a jab at the Famicom itself being weak.
Wow, SEGA. Wow.
I think this is the only boss machine in Sonic CD that actually has a given name as well.
I'm not counting Metal Sonic, of course. He's a different case.
@@em5345- Sega's constant jabs at Nintendo while Nintendo just kinda ignored them seem extra sad with 30 years of retrospect.
LOL that’s a good jab
1:21 90% of the n64 library would like a word with you
The 64 refers to the console's 64-bit processor, so it doesn't really make sense for games suffixed with 64.
Only really makes sense for Mario Kart...ridge
Hah! Yeah....
Not to mention the Wii, Wii U, DS, and 3DS
That makes more sense because it refers to power rather than space. If it's on a CD, yeah sure, but that doesn't really make the game better apart from the soundtrack and FMV-Cutscenes except when the game *really* needs more space like FFVII which aren't that many I suppose as much space can already be saved with proper compressing, too. With a "64" or "Super" in the title indicating the console's power you can certainly advertise.
Even Ocarina of Time had the prototype name “Zelda 64”
Are you really trying to convince me that CD is worst than Sonic 1?
C'mon...
Pixel Attack AHHHH YEEESSS THE ARTSTYLE THE SOUNDTRACK THE IDEAS... WORSE THAN SONIC 1 ARAHAHAHAHAHA
Yes
Sonic 1 was more well designed but regardless I will always have more fun with Sonic CD
I love all classic games
Sonic 1 wasn't a mess of level design like CD, at least not in most zones, but I definitely had more fun exploring Sonic CD.
I can't hate Sonic CD even if I try. I love this game too much... It's so much fun to me
Me too the game pisses me off alot while I play it but I literally can't hate it no matter what.
Same I just love playing it it just feels so like Sonic
Me too
SONIC CD’s JAPANESE SOUNDTRACK IS FIRE
Any version that wasn't the US version really, Americans really know how to mess things up.
Luke Webster Not really, the American Soundtrack has some nice tunes like Tidal Tempest Good Future and Wacky Workbench Good Future. It’s a hidden gem to me.
I KNOW RIGHT
@@HyperSonic777 You can like a song or maybe two. but the american version has nothing to do with de JP Ost
Migue :v I don’t just like 2 from the American Soundtrack. I like quite a lot of it. For me, It’s up there with Undertale.
"Would you like to play a game set on a Salvador Dalí painting?"
HARD YES.
The dude that made the video has called the level design "art" without knowing it, I love it
@@ansen3683 He meant it....... I think YOU'RE the one missing the beats here.....
Oh yeah, go play LSD Dream Simulator, pretty much the same
@@ameladaptivedaydreamer949 why are you hating? I like Sonic CD, did you get offended, otaku?
@@ansen3683 First thing, I made 2 comments so idk which one are you answering cause just from the way you write I can imagine you're a fragile baby who can't take criticism on something you like cause "mY Gawme Is pwefect shuwt up ;w;" so you probably WOULD get offended by both comments (even though one of them is just a joke) because you're not bothering with the context.... Second, I would be glad if you could show me where did I said "I hate Sonic CD", I'm not even capable of hating the game cause I never played it.
Another thing, you REALLY think that the word "otaku" is an insult??? I would prefer to be an otaku than being a peabrained bitchlet like you ;3. Oh and, it's not an anime fyi, do some research before trying to be "smart" cause you're not ;D
5:39
You censored something that Animal Crossing didn't.
whaaa no way
?
When you love Sonic CD...
Yea
Cringe
@@HasaanRicksConicelli_Autoplex ok boomer
@@calibvr damn so original wow you really out did yourself with this insult how long did it take you to think this up?
How did this degenerate so quickly?
Goes to show that a bunch of cool concepts thrown together won't work unless executed properly.
Now I really want to see RelaxAlax's opinion on Knuckles Chaotix.
Or Sonic Blast for the Gamegear. Xd
Chaotix is similar to CD, great music, trash game. Actually it's a far worse game than CD. But the music kicks ass.
you mean tech demo the game?
it's the best 2d sonic game in my opinion
I actually kind of like Chaotix. Don't get me wrong, it's nowhere near as good as Sonic 2 or 3, but I still think it's enjoyable.
I love how a youtube channel about a bald man in his like 20s and his cat talking primarily about video games has continuity. I'm so glad I found this channel lmao
Wait he's bald-
@@acekirby678 he got chronic shaved head a while ago
AVGN: i'm a fucking joke to you?
I disagree, CD is my favourite classic game level design wise.
The levels have this feeling of a free roam playground, the positions of objects feel more like little things to mess around with rather than ways of progressing to the end of the level.
It sounds weird, but its the same joy I get out of Sonic Utopia. In that game, the fun is seeing where you can take Sonic, what you can mess around with. Just simply running to the end would be boring.
When I play CD, I am always wondering where I can take Sonic next. Where will this route take me? What will happen if I try this?
These aren't unintentional either, the game actively rewards you for going off the main track with life monitors and other goodies. Not only that, but it is the intended way of achieving the good ending - through stumbling across a robot generator while playing around with pathways and secrets found within the levels.
The aesthetic of the areas and atmosphere make you want to spend time in these locations rather than blast through them, and the game design rewards players who do so.
I agree
Play It again, and try to destroy all the Eggman's generators and metal Sonic holograms. You will feel the real pain in the ass that these level actually are.
@@aquelecientista4491 I enjoy finding the generators, it's my preffered play style.
I don't believe I have gone for all the Metal Sonic holograms - but there is no point in getting them other than for the achievement.
Thatscientist um there’s another way to get the good ending, they’re called time stones
@@Jackattack359 but I went for 100%, which means I had to destroy the generators, sonic holograms and collect all the time stones.
I can understand not liking the game, but some of these complaints seemed contradictory to each other. You complain that the levels are built for exploration to the expense of not being able to just play through the levels like a normal Sonic game. But then you later complain about there always being a straight-shot path that's comparatively easy compared to the rest of the level, allowing you to skip all of the exploration. That straight-shot path was EXACTLY so that you can still play through the game like a typical Sonic game!
You complain about not being able to easily time travel to the past. The thing is, that's another aspect of the puzzle for each level. You not only need to investigate the level to find the Generator you need to destroy, but you also need to find a safe and easy place to time travel. Once you activate a sign-post, the effect doesn't go away until you hit another one or attempt to time-travel and trigger the sparks. You have all the time in the world to locate a safe place to time travel. There's always at least one in every single level, those paired springs aren't cop-out spots, they just happened to be easier to find! Usually if the time-travel location is easier to find, that means that the Generator itself it tucked away in a particularly difficult spot and you're going to need to spend more time looking for it in particular.
The complaint about the boss in Palmtree Panic Zone isn't necessarily contradictory, but you're missing the point. First of all, the game wasn't originally made for wide-screen like the PC port that you played. The original intention is that the boss travels forward all the way to the very left of the screen save for a space that is just about exactly the same width as Sonic, so it's much less obvious that there's a safe spot to hide in. While it's still just as pathetic once you know what you're doing, that's also intentional as well. The boss itself is named after the Famicom, so it's an elaborate jab at Nintendo. Besides, as the very first boss of the game, making it easy isn't that big of a problem. (Also, you can totally reach the boss with Invincibility, or even sneak behind it when it first appears, so you can kill it in less than three seconds either of those ways.)
This is just a bad review. Scott the Woz's review of Sonic CD is way more constructive and doesn't rely on screaming and contradictions.
Why does sonic cd look like everything i saw after i ate the bag of suspicious sugar in my uncles cupboard.
Do you have any left for research purposes
I don't think that's sugar..
@@kennethvalentine8901 i currently see another bag that says sugar for adults. So i Could give you some.
@@frost_sprite it said 100% sugar from the boiz
@@iruama1405 I'll take it
Alax: "Do you remember when sonic was cool"
Ign:"SONIC WAS NEVER GOOD "
“THEY ALL WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH BIG THE CAT”
The gameplay was, music is full of bops
Nathaniel Foga I remember when ign were made a big fool of themselves
Facts:IGN was never good.
@Jenny Baxter uhh,no IGN is just cringe crybabies.
He even added the old Ganon grunt when he cursed, the nostalgia hits harder than turning in Sonic R
The best thing about Sonic CD is that I play it. I love this game and I can’t stop people from saying they hate it. That’s fine. I just don’t feel Sonic CD is a bad game at all
I completely agree
A Sonic Spinba-
Oh... it's Sonic CD. Hm, okay. I'll hear ya out I guess.
Sonic Blast for the gamegear :>
I thought I was the only person that thought this was about Sonic Spinball but I forgot Alax HATES CD with a passion lol
Sonic 3D blast
Spinball at least has unique gameplay AND levels built well for the gameplay it does have. Ofc on the Genesis. And in Mega Collection. Every 2000s Sonic fan should own Mega Collection.
Sonic Spinball is a better game than Sonic CD, simple as.
Ok, CD slander aside, can we agree that Metal Sonic is one of the coolest characters in the series?
Agreed
@Barra76 no, I 100% agree. SMBZ gave him way too much of a reputation.
well, Metal Sonic is still my favourite Sonic character
Uh how is this even slander tho
Yeah, at least Sonic CD gave us a couple of good characters.
Man, I don't remember Sonic 3D Blast looking like this.
That wasn’t Little Planet exploding, that was it blasting off into the distance.
Also JP soundtrack over US.
THANK GOD FOR THIS COMMENT. I really didn't understand the ending before this hahaha
Now that I give the US soundtrack a try I think it's also good but I still like the JP one better overall.
I think you're forgetting about Knuckles Chaotix
I’ve never played... sh-should I?
@@relaxalax I mean, It'd make for a fun video, but in terms of enjoyment?
...yeah you should probably give it a pass...
It’s LSD Markiplier
And both are forgetting sonic jam from game.com and sonic schoolhouse
damn im one of the very few people who actually *likes* knuckles chaotix
I mean, at least it was Sonic CD and not Sonic CDI. 😳
Someone should make art for that lol
@toothgrinder 6:11
@@pxtn98 the legend himself
@Darling Vexa Art I actually love them for their weird wonky charm! And the memes and the RUclips poop!
I actually want to see that now
I mean i can agree and that saying this is my favorite Sonic game after 3 & Knuckles, but the video feels super full of hyperbole, like, im on board and then "THE STORY MAKES NO SENSE" excuse me it's a game about a humanoid hedgehog it sure had to made sense, i mean the story is simple but it makes medium sense or so i remember. The video makes complaints against things that doesnt really matter, and yeah i could be with level design, i didnt had much trouble with it but i understand, thing is the exploration and big open areas arent a problem on itself, yes you can breeze through the level BUT YOU DONT GET THE REWARD FROM EXPLORING. Besides that, i agree with pretty much everything but
A Are we forgetting CD has a couple of the best/most creative bosses in 2D Sonic games, with Tidal Tempest making use of bubbles in a creative way and the memorable Metal Sonic race?
B Can we just talk about how hard the final boss sucks ass? That's the real atrocity here.
C Idk it's fine saying you dont like it, sometimes the video is phrased like is THE WORST GAME and it's FACT over other ppl's opinions, so, idk
Sonic CD isnt perfect but im pretty sure ppl were full aware of everything when playing it and they enjoyed it
The first time I played Sonic CD I was having a really frustrating time. Then I beat the game once and got the bad ending... and then I played the game again for the good ending... and then I got all the time stones. This is a good sonic game, better than Sonic 2 in many ways, but also worse in some other ways. The thing about classic sonic is: you gotta get good to have fun. He never played this game as a child, the one he played the most was Sonic 3 and K so obviously he would think it's the better one, and of course that he is not going to figure out most of the Sonic CD's mechanics.
What really made me upset was hearing him complain about level design and platforms, but not realizing that most of the said platforms serve so you can time travel with ease.
But yeah, the last boss sucks, especially because all of the bosses here are really good, even the first one that is supposed to be joke boss at the expense of the code name of the NES.
This video is really funny, but it stinks as a critique and the script really sells me the idea that he knows what he is talking about when he clearly doesn't.
Some of the complaints towards this game feel exaggerated for comedy. Scott the Woz's review of Sonic CD is better and more constructive. This just feels like an "Angry man rants about Sonic for 15 minutes, while repeating how the level sucks over and over ".
Here’s a hot take: I actually like Sonic CD, I only played Sonic and Sonic 2 on IOS cause they’re free, with Sonic 1 I got stuck on Labyrinth Zone boss fight cause well Labyrinth Zone and in Sonic 2 I got stuck on Chemical Plant Zone boss cause tiny controls and every time I hit eggman *yeet* the floor just dips. Sonic CD was the only one where I was able to fully complete (at the time) and my experience was that yeah sure it was wack but I thought that was kinda the point, now I didn’t go for 100% I was just going for whatever and looking back it was obtuse but I liked it, it provided something weird yet interesting. I understand the level design isn’t great in practice, at the very least it was unique and I’ll always respect it for that
That’s more of a Lukewarm take. People like Sonic CD.
So its more of "I like it because of nostalgia" rather then it being a good game
@@PlastiGomi nope he did not even mentioned nostaligia at all the game is fun and enjoyable and unique
@@Nakedjackfrost he said it was the only game I beat at the time (the past)
@@PlastiGomi okay but he said he liked it at the time bow does that have anything to do with nostaligia if he liked it the first time he played it?
In RadicalSoda words:
“ The time travel idea is really cool. BUT I CAN NEVER F*CKIN DO IT!"
File this under "things with no sound but you can still clearly hear".
actually... the spinning platforms he complains about in this video are also freebies. Shame most people never try to explore and experiment with the level because... well... it's sonic and in most games you just run right. Although... I still think another third of the signposts should have been past. Like, what's the point of going to the bad future first?
You need to really understand the momentum and how to use it every time you want, I like this sonic game, it’s my favorite, because it’s not just a giant concert of speed while you are doing nothing, it’s not just press right to win, and you can speed run and use momentum too, for example I, in metallic madness act 1 I’ve got a record 29 seconds I don’t know if it was 28, but you can still go fast, it’s just that it’s more difficult
To be fair, it ain't ENTIRELY Sonic CDs fault. RadicalSoda has constantly joked and mentioned about how terrible he is at playing the classic games. He can barely get to Spring Yard Zone in Sonic 1.
@@user-nf2es5xv5w NO SONIC GAME IS PRESS-RIGHT-TO-WIN! Not even Forces! My problem with CD is not that it isn’t “press-right-to-win”. My problem is that it tries to have its cake and eat it too.
This is one of the most weirdest games ever and I still love it
I actually liked wacky workbench. The bouncy floor has always seemed like a punishment for not doing the platforming correctly, as well as a way to quickly get to the upper portions of the stages
What’s with all the recent Sonic CD bashing? I understand some of the criticisms, but it feels like the internet just decided to shit on CD out of nowhere for no reason.
Kinda feels like the time everyone on youtube unanimously decided the Adventure games were bad in like 2015
Sonic adventure: Well now it's your turn buddy.
Mr.Rad-guy guess we’ll have to wait a couple years for the Sonic CD apologists to emerge and make their own videos now lol
Jose Garcia we didn’t get a new sonic game so we had to settle for something else :p.
Yeah, that's the Sonic fanbase logic, they just start to roast the best games (Adventure, Unleashed, CD, and so on) to promote the worst ones, like riders
Ansen36 riders isn’t bad... Least the first one wasn’t.
"Oh Anime!"
That's how Alax lived through time travel for a while
Yeah I stopped listening to RelaxAlax when he said Sonic CD is worse than Sonic 1.
At least Sonic 1 is playable.
emcee munchapussy So is Sonic CD
@@PETRIXXXX I never liked Sonic CD, so for me I actually prefer Sonic 1
Sonic 1 does suck but in my opinion it's better than CD
Warrior Cat Wrong Opinion
@@PETRIXXXX Dude I can understand how people like it, but it's just not for me, if you like it that's fine but that doesn't mean everyone else has a wrong opinion, I literally said "in my opinion" I never said SOnIc cD iS tRaSh gAm E AnD nO oNe ShOuld li ke iT
5:25 “This game singlehandedly added a screen when you turn on your Wii.”
Even though it was never released on the Wii, as it exceeded the WiiWare download size?
The implication is that the game's seizure-inducing graphics encouraged the addition of the health and safety warning screen in future games.
When Sonic dies but it's because he got bored of your robot:
*Task failed succesfully*
Personally I found Sonic cd significantly more fun than Sonic 1.
That just facts idk why youtubers are picking on sonic cd i found it even better than sonic 2 or atleast a really great game
Same, I enjoyed the chaos of the game
maxbyer I feel the exact same tbh
Finally, a man of culture
@@Nakedjackfrost wow, you think the same way as me
0:02
*sees old intro*
*Shrinks into nothing with happiness*
But hey, at least we were introduced to Metal.
I love to speed run this game. Many of the levels seem like a random acid trip at first, but by exploring and practicing, any level can be blazed through.
Most sonic games are like this. I don't get this thought process "I'm not good at it so this is BAD". I think the only levels I genuinely don't like are... collision chaos and the first act of metallic madness I think (because it's really confusing to get across.)
Yeah but isn't that the default? If you force me at gunpoint to play literally any game 10 times I'm obviously gonna blaze through it eventually, really what counts is if I'm skilled enough to blaze through it on my first few playthroughs.
@@Apotheosister This. This is what I feel many more people need to realize about replayability. People should WANT to replay a game, not NEED to.
I got a 29 second run through metallic madness act 1 on my phone some years ago… maybe even 25, i’m not sure, i think my save from then got wiped.
Idc what anybody says, this is one of the best sonic games every created.
People are just bound to have opinions, I’m just mad when they preach their opinions as fact.
“An artist leading a game? That could turn out great! (Sarcasticly)”
Me: **Laughs in Kingdom Hearts**
Aaron Hussey I love it, but dear god is the story a mess.
"Remeber when sonic was cool? Well hes not anymore"
Dislike button is my persona
Sonic is dead
@@justarmouredchaos5470 Yeah sure, dude. Say that to Sonic the movie being the most grossing video game movie of all time.
*sonic mania plus...*
Pfp fits perfect
@@Victor-um9ce you gotta admit it's really sad when a MOVIE is carrying this *video game* franchise.
I can’t agree with most of this video, I’ve always had tons of fun with this game. I loved the music, found the levels super fun to explore and traverse, found the new traversal options great, really enjoyed the bonus levels, and really enjoyed the setpeices. Felt a lot more involved and interesting than “Run to the right.” I can definitely agree with the time travel gimmick being annoying though, it’s way too hard to time travel in this game.
I know right! The game almost never feels like it runs out of things to show, and the plot line is so brave and different compared to the others. I just feel the other games just feel almost bland when comparing to it, I really don't see how anyone could think it's bad, in my opinion it's the greatest game in the series-
I feel the same
Yeah...i really can't understand why people tend to be harsh on CD, CD is also meant to exploration not only running to the right, i had a lot of fun with CD.
@@ped3752 Exactly! It also felt more indulging since you had the ability to decide the outcome of the zones as well.
@@insomniatic991 It's really amazing because it feels great when you need to master the mechanics to play well and when you do it's really not hard to travel through time, the feeling of arriving at the boss with the good future is gratifyingly great.
OK WHY DO PEOPLE HATE SONIC CD!?!? I really liked CD. Ok I get it now but I still like this game, I see the "they just placed shit everywhere" but he also shows how there is paths that just go straight to the end, like all classic sonic games.
but even then all the levels in this game can be described with 'dick move'.
This game is full of dick moves, which makes it really hard to keep rings. and sometimes you can be forced to go on the 'fuck you' paths of horror.
And the end means nothing for the game if you don't go out of its way for the 100%, which is where all the problems show up.
people hate cd for it's level design. It is flawed and I don't like that it has the same design philosophy as sonic 1. CD is still my favorite game though.
Mamodokod Agreed. You either loved or hated this game and personally sonic cd is my favorite out of the classic bunch. The time travel mechanic is what makes the level design of this game really enjoyable to me
The level design is not a straight line as Sonic 2
Okay... I know that I"m two days late and all... BUT WAS THAT THE DAMN JUNES THEME?! 3:53
POG
FINALLY SOMEONE BESIDES ME NOTICED
Alax: Sonic CD is the worst classic sonic game.
Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis: Am I a joke to you?
That’s not really a classic Sonic game though. It’s just a really bad port of one.
Alax: I hate Sonic CD!
Dagoth Ur: Such a grand and intoxicating innocence!
I feel like this level design was mostly caused by Eggman
@Darling Vexa Art that dosen't excuse the level design beign trash
@@wiktorcokolwiek521 yes it does,why would eggman make a world were sonic can run freely,your playing a platformer not imitating a speedrunner.
@@ahmadkazan7994 ok but the level design is still bad
It's better than sonic 1, 2, and 3&K level design. You could argue sonic 2 but it still has chemical plant, metropolis, oil ocean, and mystic cave so... Nothing of course as bad as marble garden zone or labyrinth zone but still has more dumb stuff than CD.
CD only annoying parts to me anyway are Collison chaos 3 and metallic madness 2 and 3 but I usually give last zones like metallic madness a break since all other last sonic zones also suck. (Those being Scrap Brain, Wing Fortress, and Death Egg)
Why would I want to play a game where the levels are designed to be terribly designed?
I know the video is his own opinion, but the description hurts to read:
"Sonic CD is often touted as the best Sonic game ever, so today we're gonna investigate how one of the worst Sonic games ever eluded the jaws of reality and snuck itself into that category."
It is painful for a sonic cd fan.
Sonic CD is like the first guy to milk a cow. It’s brave, weird, confusing, and really stupid.
And it may have been responsible for a lot of what we can enjoy today, but that particular instance in itself is understandably questionable.
I hope isn't just "Sonic CD bad cus different" or other thing of the tipical Twitter hate, well to time watch the video
Edit: ok so i watched it, is the typical usual opinion of one what he just played the game don't understanding the level's and comparing to the other games saying "that's isn't how it works cus that isn't how i though was gonna work" thing. This game while being in the classic era has an different focus, instead of more action-platformer is an exploration-adventure, like the new system based sandbox's games, where is how you want to play the game the correct way to play, here you see a prototype of that in Sonic CD, allowing to do what you want when and wherever you want (literally thanks to the time travel mechanic), for that reason sonic cd repeats a lot of modules, combining that to the unique pathways,but in this game being more polarized, the easy paths are fast and spectacle shores while the hard zones are really big challenges but they are more about your skills and timing rather than waiting and reaction.
How is it so far
Sonic CD is kinda boring though I played it and it was eh.
Imo
i just didnt like this review cause its the same points over and over again and again. the only points he brings up as to why the game is bad is "Time Travel is jank" or "The levels focus more on exploration" and shit like that. Its only those 2 that he brings up the most, and some are easily invalidated. Sure, the eggman mech boss is really easy, but thats mainly because its the *_first boss of the first zone_*
@@SkyanUltra Did... did you actually watch the video? He specifically mentioned it doesn't do speed OR exploration well.
@@platlo4848 the typical hate stuff, more than the this game is bad now rather than an actual opinion (that waves of sonic hat that scales from game to game)
Honestly I think Sonic CD is a great classic Sonic game but I respect your decision
@Darling Vexa Art in fact is not even an opinion
@@ansen3683 I mean, reviews are the definition of opinion but ok
@@NUKELEDGE the way he talks in this video makes me think that he's just hating
Ansen36 for giving criticism towards a game? The frustration aspect clearly shows what’s wrong with the game and what it needs improvement on. Not only that but it’s a video meant to be exaggerated to entertain an audience.
If Sonic CD is really the worst classic Sonic game you've ever played, you clearly don't play a lot. There's Sonic 2 (game gear), Sonic Jam (game com), and plenty of other bad ones
Sonic 2 Master System is superior to its Game Gear version. Sonic Chaos is worse than both versions of Sonic 2 (8-bit) because of how easy and unfun it is.
@@x-mighty7602 Sonic Chaos is fun if you go for the chaos emeralds, and yes everyone knows that the master system version is better
Game Gear version is basically "What if we put a Master System game on a handheld console that drains it's own batteries very quickly and make the game basically inferior to the original?".
Yep, plus there's sonic spinball and sonic drift
Knuckles and Chaotix.
8:36 me when i forgot to do my homework
Most of Sonic CD's levels feel like either Super Mario Maker stages or someone's first Sonic fangame
Darling Vexa Art eggman did not and even if he ever were that doesn't excuse the bad level design
Eggman shaped a lot of the zones you visit in other games, so it isn't really a great excuse for a messy level design in Sonic CD.
@Darling Vexa Art Nope. Still does not excuse the mess of the level design that is in Sonic CD.
oh boy another sonic cd review that's "oh this game is poopy stinky because it's wacky and different"
To be fair, levels later on have level design that is so stupid
@@Eminster fair, but also it's supposed to be harder-cd is based on the principle of sonic 1 where you're supposed to play it multiple times to learn the level design
@@soleanna14 I mean I've played CD dozens of times, it's my favorite Classic Sonic game before Mania but I still bump into random shit placed to slip in a "fuck you" for the people going for the time stones through special stages.
12:15 " I think both of the soundtracks are fantastic "
Us game over ost: allow me to introduce myself
does anyone notice that if you pause at 0:34 you will see a portion of the eggman pissing on the moon thing
OMG That is amazing!
@@jaredargento1511 thx
that intro really caught me off guard
This just feels way too unfair to CD...at least in my opinion.
I think his arguments were very fair and well explained
How is it unfair? He's right. The levels are a total mess. CD would be good if the levels were actually build AROUND the fact that you speed up for time traveling but they're clearly not
@@ichasedacrow2 Two factors. What you consider fair and what constitutes as a game [disclaimer] to most people.
Both are subjective. I could say that olives on pizza are disgusting and give reasons to qualify what makes it a gross addition. However, in an argument about whether makes for a bad lunch, I'm overstepping the bounds by trying to turn a subjective basis into an objective point
Personally I think when people try to compare the structure of this game to Sonic 2, it is heavily doctored by nostalgia. If they took off their rose tinted glasses and tried to see it from the perspective of an adult trying to enjoy a game, they'd find a game about speed less compelling when they are constantly slamming into enemies/obstacles due to the zoomed camera and punishing lead space
I also thought he was being a bit unfair but he's right in pretty much all of his points. Sonic CD is my favorite game but 100% more so because of its visuals and soundtrack and amount of replayability. The levels are a complete mess but I like finding the good parts in that and finding reliable ways to time travel. I can replay this sonic game more so than any other one and I find it enjoyable too because the paths are completely different and there is so little that is scripted. Definitely not a perfect game but my favorite 2D sonic game by far
@@zyndeyqualarrin easy,he goes "this isn't sonic,sonic is supposed to be fast" while forgetting sonic is a platformer first,speed was marketing only.
0:58 the ad you're showing is an italian ad. That square logo in the bottom left corner is the logo from Italia 1, an italian TV channel that actually aired Kirby and Sonic X in the early 2000's!
sonic CD should've been titled "sonic's Acid trip"
By the way, SONIC IS NOT JUST ABOUT GOING FAST, FFS!
That's what this game is about, this is why this ignorant person that has no taste regarding games roasted it, it's something different from the same Sonic games
@@ansen3683 Who are you calling ignorant, tho?
@@ChiefMedicPururu no, not you, the dude that made this butthole of a video
Thank you!!
First of all, nobody (Correction: some people) call it the best sonic game
Second of all, just watch an explanation by gamechamp3000 or game apologist to see a better perspective.
you do raise some good points about level design though.
Screwattack gave it #1 on the TOP 10 Best Sonic Games.
That's the thing about opinions: they tend to be subjective...
TGC did a pretty good analysis of this game too.
Sonic random but I can tell you hate sonic cd
@@saysay7191 I love Sonic CD, is my favourite game, but everyone has his opinion
"everything is wrong with sonic cd" Heh, yeah. After saying the animation was glorious, the ost is awesome, and it has cool new characters. What? I'm a certified hypocrite, what can I say.
True.
Good presentation alone can't save fundamentally flawed gameplay and level design.
2 years later and im still trying to figure out what song this is: 7:39
Alax told me on stream. It's "Apologize" by Timbaland
“Sonic CD proves that players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good”
@Darling Vexa Art is not eggman's world, is an alien world
@Darling Vexa Art plus, Sonic fans love straight line so they can speed run them, this is why most of them love Sonic 2 (I agree with you anyways)
@@ansen3683 i mean sonic is a platformer first,that's why people hated forces,it put speed over rewarding succesful platforming.
@@ahmadkazan7994 but they loved colours, generations and Sonic 2 that are all straight lines, Sonic fans just change their opinions
@@ansen3683 that's the problem sega's all bad games are failing attempts of either fan service for old generarions or attempts to impress the new one.Sonic was originally a platformer,rhat's my point,and colors had quite the platforming sections,even generations had platforming.
Sonic CD is honestly my favorite classic game. Heck my first Sonic game was the IOS port of CD many years back and as grueling as that game's levels could be, it's a gold mine of game design since it actually frigin' stimulates my mind with how scatterbrain it is.
Tho Wacky Workbench felt like it was designed by goddamn satan. Fuck that level. Oh also Collision Chaos' boss was utter hell for me.
Me at the beginning of Wacky Workbench: "Oh neat this is a cool gimmick"
Me at the end: "MAKE IT STOP!!!"
@@supernintendo182 YEA EXCATLY
It's the Japanese Super Mario Bros. 2 of Sonic.
Wacky Workbench is the definition of messy level design in this game. It's just so much... everywhere.
I loved wacky workbench lol
0:35 I caught that snap cube reference
Sonic 1: "I put stuff here cause the player wants to go there and it's a platformer"
Sonic 2: "I put stuff here so that when the player goes here he dies. And he will gradually learn, through failure after failure, my methods of madness and avoid them."
Sonic 3: "I put stuff here so that if the player goes here he can do a thing and say 'wow mom look I'm doing a thing'"
Sonic CD: "I put *stuff* "
I see the future signs as punishments, which is a strange way to design a games main mechanic. Bad future stages always have more enemies and hazards, so you want to go to the past, and if you manage to get to good future you’re rewarded with a stage with little to no hazards.
It’s a strange difficulty system that was completely missed by my 5 year old self playing this for the first time. This game used to give me nightmares (mostly cause of the English boss theme with the evil laughing).
Another wonderful video, nice work alax!!
Lackluster sales of Sonic 2? What are you talking about? It's the second best selling game on the Genesis.
TartTooth
He’s aware. That’s why he sounded confused. That was the supposed reason they made CD, according to the director.
@@playaskirbyandwin267 Thanks for the clarification!
“Remember when Sonic was cool?”
Stab in the heart right there
RelaxAlax: Sonic CD,the worst sonic classic game.
Me: Excuse me, what to say Sonic blast?
Does Sonic Blast really count though? I mean, nobody is usually referring to any Game Gear games when they’re collectively talking about the classic Sonic games.
sonic 1, sonic 2, 3d blast, chaotix are way worse
Este comentario envejecio mal para mi, todos tenemos un punto de vista así que el comentario que hice fue muy tonto.
Además, eh probado el Sonic Blast de Master System y realmente no está TAN MALO como dicen, es mejor que la versión de GG.
13:28 ok, that looks a bit unclear - what's actually happening is the planet is warping away back into orbit, which is what the swirl left behind is supposed to represent
The trail of the planet, maybe
To me it still looks like the planet explodes. At least it leaves no chances for Eggman to exploit it ever again.
Funny cause this is actually my favorite Classic Sonic game.
Me as well
Top 2 for me
This is also one of my favorites lol
I I'm fine that alax doesn't like this game, but I really love it and I don't think it's mess
Even if it's messy it's still one of my personal favorites in the series.
Sonic CD: what happens when you do too much drugs.
If you put "I have come to make an announcement" with that exact picture. I WILL have no choice but to buy it
This is some quality content. It’s a shame I haven’t found this channel sooner. Keep up the great work man
Cd is still my favorite in the classic series. You cant tell me its worse than 1.
It is worse.
@@SuperSolaris666 nice bait
@@mannycampos6885 Not bait. Sonic 1 is a better designed game than Sonic CD.
@@SuperSolaris666 nice joke. Sonic 1 is just straight lines
@@mannycampos6885 Have you even played Sonic 1? The levels are anything BUT straight lines.
What is the name of the song thats in the background of the skit at the beginning of the video? I hear a lot in other videos and it sounds so familiar. Is it from a Mario game?
Sonic CD feels like one of those bad fan games made by a 14 year old who made something just because they got their hands on a framework. I'd know, man, I WAS that guy, and I'm pretty sure my 14 year old homemade platforming physics stage layout was more comprehensive
Oh I see what you did there in the beginning...this comment could have been better lol
How
Lmao...
Bruh you spend money Patron.
@@wimyjohn7159 idk. I actually had something more elaborate at first and then I deleted it. I also didn't want to be basic and say like "first" or whatever especially when I'm probably not lol
Alternative title: Alax has an existencial crisis while time traveling
Sonic CD is my favorite classic sonic game, however I've always been aware of its lackluster level design. I just really love the music and art style. I will say however I think it's better than sonic 1
Yeah, definitely more fun than 1, I'm not sure about the others tho
Hi Alax great video I loved it, but when's the ACNH video or will there be one?
SONIC CD WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
This is sonic cd
"Sonic CD wants to facetime..."
I'm so glad someone finally said both soundtracks are good, though I will say this, I do prefer the Japanese ost it is straight up creepy at times.
You can't legally say this is the worst classic sonic game when the GBA port of sonic 1 exists
What was that video were a song from persona 5 and a song from another artist had the same hit it sample in their music? I’ve been looking for it for ages now.
Let me guess: "sONiC uSeD tO bE gOOd, aNd nOw hE iS nOt"
Rayman fan
That isn’t his perspective in the least LOL
“sOnIc WaSnT eVeN gOoD iN tHe FiRsT pLaCe”
-IGN
Rayman fan I think you missed the point
So 2 years ago he makes a video saying he likes a 3D Sonic game (SA2), then now makes this video harshly critizicing and old Sonic game, right after harshly critizicing the classic trilogy of Sonic games... what a terrible guess.
So 2 years ago he makes a video saying he likes a 3D Sonic game (SA2), then now makes this video harshly criticizing and old Sonic game, right after harshly criticizing the classic trilogy of Sonic games... what a terrible guess.
i was just thinking, “i wonder when alax will upload” then i got the notification
This is the reason I don't like 2D Sonic games. You can't see sh*t in front of you while running fast and it only feels a bit more comfortable once you've played the levels several times so that you know what's coming and where and when to jump out of a stupid trap.
You have no idea how much I relate to this. I mean, I don’t consider the main classic entries bad, but my first playthroughs of them were some of the first instances in my life when a video game actually made me want to watch the world burn.
Now I will forever miss Ganon punching Alax
Gosh, I wonder what Ganon’s up to.